1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: More ranks around our new police recruits. We've got a 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: survey canvassing senior police views that says cops leaving college 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: are barely equipped with the basics of arresting, laying charges. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Eighty three percent of respondents also felt the new recruits 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: were poor at organizing official paperwork and a touch a 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: penny as the assistant police commissioner and is with us morning. 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. 8 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Do we have a problem with our recruits. 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: No, we don't have a problem. We're putting out police 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: officers after twenty weeks that are already for their two 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: year of probationary constable training. 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: So how do we explain the survey and the concern 13 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: within the force. 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: So the survey is really important because, like anything, we 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: know we're not perfect and we know these always areas 16 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 2: to improve. I mean, the survey had some good results, 17 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: we were doing well, but to your point, it had 18 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: three key areas that we really need to look at 19 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: and that's under review at the moment to see how 20 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: we improve. 21 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: So will changes be made? 22 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Look, we are the nature of policing now, 23 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: we're so dynamics that we we need to keep graduate tracking. 24 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 2: We need to actually really challenge ourselves. We're doing a 25 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: review at the moment and early next year we will 26 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: be making some changes to the curriculum. 27 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: In the meantime, before you make those changes, do we 28 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: have a bad bunch or a batch or two of 29 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: these people have come through that aren't quite up to scratch. 30 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: Oh no, Look, we have ordinary new Zealanders who take 31 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: on an extraordinary role. They come in and we do 32 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: twenty weeks training. Look like it's like anything. It is 33 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,639 Speaker 2: the start of your apprenticeship. We've got mister and missus 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: Smith who come in and within twenty one weeks they 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: are actually securing some powers that we take really seriously. 36 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: So this is just part of their trade ship. 37 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: Is this any different to what you've seen previously? I 38 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: mean the fact this is in the public domaind do 39 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: you review this on an ongoing basis and tweak and 40 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: twist when you need to? 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: So, yes we do. I mean we just increased from 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: sixteen weeks to twenty weeks. In January twenty four you 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: will see more of this. We need to make sure 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: that our graduate trekking is on the mark because policing 45 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: is changing and is dynamics, so we will do more 46 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: and more of this, and we just need to be 47 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: transparent and open and say you know what we're searching. 48 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: We're looking at other jurisdictions. We are really deliberate about 49 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: wanting to put out great police officers, so you will 50 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: see more of this not there. 51 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: Do you face what many employers in this economy face 52 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: at the moment, Getting good people is increasingly hard. 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, look for every one hundred applicants we get who 54 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: want to join place, we take just under ten, So 55 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: our standards are really high. Looks recruitment across the world. 56 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like the journalism, Mike, but 57 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: we're working really hard to get the right people into 58 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: the organization. 59 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: It's shocking for journalism, I can tell you that for nothing. 60 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: So Mark Mitchell earlier on this morning said it's world class. 61 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: You would confer not wanting to get you in trouble 62 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: with Mark Mitchell, of course, but you would confer it 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: as world class, remains world class, and you're confident of 64 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: what you do. 65 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: Well. I appreciate you not wanting me to get in 66 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: trouble with the minister, but look, Mike, we are constantly 67 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: trying to be the best we can be and We 68 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: know that we have worked to do, but here today 69 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: what I can ensure all of New Zealanders. We just 70 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: have such amazing police officers on the frontline doing the 71 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: absolute toughest jobs they can do. We have work to 72 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: do in training, of course we do. Are we going 73 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: to be perfect? Probably not, but are we going to 74 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: try bloody hard. Absolutely good to. 75 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: Hear, nice to talk to. 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