1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: The official final result of the conveted takeover votes being 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: released and as expected, not going to happen. This is 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: the proposed takeover by Florins. It's failed. Forty sorry, fifty 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: four point twenty nine percent of shareholders were in favor. 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: You need seventy five percent. A struggling minooka honey company 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: has to come up with a plan, be pretty quick. 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: It's got sixty million dollars of debt right now that 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: needs to be repaid in the first quarter of next year. 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: Carl Graydon is CEO with me now, Carl, good evening. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Good evening, thanks having me. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: So what's the plan now? How are you going to 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: pay this debt? 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: Well, the shareholders have spoken and at the end of 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: the day, we've now got a business as CEO that 15 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: I need to continue to hit the results and deliver 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: against the promises we've made. That's the first thing we 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: need to do. And the board is very clear that 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: they've now got to work with urgency, with both our 19 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: lenders and advisors to deliver a plan big so as 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: it expects. They have been thinking about this for quite 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: some time as a contingency, quite a thoughtful and now 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: the time is to act as a leadership team to 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: deliver on the results, and the board is entirely focused 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: on the recapitalization. 25 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: You don't sound too worried about this. Is there a 26 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: risk the company is going to fall over? 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: I think that there is always a collaboration to be 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: had with our lending partners. We will be requiring equity 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: going forwards, and I think that as a result of that, 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: we need to be always thinking about the future scenarios. 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: We have a great brand, we have a great shareholder base, 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: and at the end of the day, we need to 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: continue to deliver on the promise. And the good thing 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: is in the last few months we have begun to 35 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: deliver against the potential of the brand and deliver what 36 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: we said we were going to do. And it's the priority. 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: No question about the brand. The brand is really strong. 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: How's that recapitalization going to work? Do you think? 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's a little bit early to actually 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: talk about that with any confidence. We're working alongside our 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: lending partners, We're working alongside the board to ensure that 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: all options continue to be explored. They have been working 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: on this and quite quite some time as a contingency, 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: so we'll be able to put it back to the 45 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: INSIDEX and to your listeners as soon as we have 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: the clarity on that. But so there is a lot 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: of work going on behind the scenes. 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: What options are you talking about, Karl. 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: Well, we will need to work alongside our lending partners. 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: We will need to go back out to market and 51 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: potentially work on a recapitalization plan, and with that recapitalization 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: comes a whole series of options which have not yet 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: been fully explored. So we'll be working with our advisors 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: and with our lenders to ensure that the brand is 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: able to thrive. 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: Why is there an oversupply or a supply issue with 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: hunting at the moment? 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: The post COVID situation really hit the industry quite hard. 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: We had an oversupply of honey coming out of the 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: apiaries across the entire country. We had a surge in 61 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: high numbers which have since reduced significantly. And as the 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: global market was looking for natural solutions to boost the immunity, 63 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: they looked to Monica honey and that drove confidence that 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: that would continue on that growth stored right at the 65 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: time as people were investing in additional hives. So now 66 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: that we're seeing the high numbers reduce and our sales 67 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: rates increase. We're actually confident that that is no longer 68 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 2: going to be the case. It will work through this 69 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: glut of honey we've had in the past, but it's 70 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: still overhanging us and I think it will take a 71 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: few months for it to continue to flow through the system. 72 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: And Convet it will be around for a long time 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: yet well. 74 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: Conveter is the number one brand globally in Manu Kahana. 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: We have the best distribution network globally. We have trusted 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: partners around the world, we have some great aparies, and 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: we're highly innovative with science based products. So when you're 78 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: in our position, it is our brand that has the 79 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: reputation and that's what we're going to continue to invest in. 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: And we love to be here for a very long time. 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: We've been here for fifty years and look to continue 82 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: to be here for another fifty. 83 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: All right, Carl, Carl, appreciate your time tonight, Carl Graden, 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: who's convicted our chief executive. For more from Heather Duplessy 85 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Allen Drive, listen live to news talks. It'd be from 86 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio,