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Speaker 2: That'd be Gettakoto and welcome to Inside Netbork. This week
Speaker 2: you've got jen Enidean from the Inside Netty team holding
Speaker 2: down the fort with Any at home resting up. Get
Speaker 2: well soon, Any. We've got a special guest stepping in
Speaker 2: once again, former Silverphon coach Evon Willering. She's back, she's
Speaker 2: our service sub she loves it so much. Awesome to
Speaker 2: have you back, Eyvon. But before we dive into all
Speaker 2: the action from round three and look ahead to round
Speaker 2: four were also paraled to be getting joined by Pulse
Speaker 2: defender Harris Mason gin I want to know your.
Speaker 1: Pearls of wisdom. What jumped out at you from round three?
Speaker 3: Well, the fact that no home team won. Youre not
Speaker 3: meant to be able to do that. You know, if
Speaker 3: you're going away, you're destined to lose. I've always thought
Speaker 3: that was a load of rubbish and I think that
Speaker 3: was born out also Petter toyever, did she really need
Speaker 3: to do the little ball off the goalpost? But it
Speaker 3: was so good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, even she's just there's a smile over there.
Speaker 1: Are you not sure about off the post?
Speaker 4: Come on, well, no, I'm not because it's to me though,
Speaker 4: it's almost like a short pass. And if you notice
Speaker 4: some of the umpires are starting to pull from a
Speaker 4: back line throw. And you know how this shooter hits
Speaker 4: the post, steps in and then takes it twice. Now
Speaker 4: already they've been penalized for year. Yeah. Now, I don't
Speaker 4: know whether they didn't step in or they are seeing
Speaker 4: it as a short pass, and it should be a
Speaker 4: short pass. There is not suffession room for a defender
Speaker 4: to come through. Why should the rules change for a
Speaker 4: goal post?
Speaker 3: Well, then I would put to you men, why why
Speaker 3: when one shooter is taking the goal, the other shoo
Speaker 3: shooting setting up to shoot, how is it that the
Speaker 3: other shooter can come in and back up against the defender?
Speaker 3: It's contact?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Never I knew you two defenders talking right now. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that wasn't even a question, no.
Speaker 2: A statement, anything else from this week here, and even
Speaker 2: that stuck out to you probably inconsistencies.
Speaker 4: I think we're getting our picks a little bit better.
Speaker 4: I think we've got well, you know, two out of
Speaker 4: three but it's a situation where some teams are learning.
Speaker 4: I think that, Yeah, I know the Magic have only
Speaker 4: got one point so far, but I think they've got better.
Speaker 4: But so the other teams, you know that they're so
Speaker 4: up and down and I'm going, you know, you should
Speaker 4: be actually progressing. And we've spoke about the two point shot.
Speaker 4: Players should be getting used to that both on attack
Speaker 4: and defense.
Speaker 1: But we are loving the two point shot, aren't we all?
Speaker 4: No, No, I am, no, I am. But you know,
Speaker 4: some teams, like for instance, the Steel Point, there are
Speaker 4: some teams that predominantly only play the one point. And
Speaker 4: if you're really leading by a lot in the one
Speaker 4: point and then someone tries and does you in the
Speaker 4: last quarter, and that's in fact, how the sorry, the Estetics,
Speaker 4: the Mystics. Actually Louie right at the end scored that
Speaker 4: was he was the turning point, absolutely and you could
Speaker 4: see the still going, you are killing me because that's
Speaker 4: I think they're only leading by one still deserve to
Speaker 4: win that game. I'm sure we'll talk about that in
Speaker 4: a minute. And yeah, I think that is really hard
Speaker 4: when a team that's worked so hard for well, not
Speaker 4: just ten minutes, because not many teams are utilizing the
Speaker 4: two pointer that well until the last quarter, and it's
Speaker 4: normally the team that's losing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found that one fascinating. Well, we're going to
Speaker 2: get into all of that very soon, but our interview today.
Speaker 2: She hails from Taranaki and she went on to a
Speaker 2: team Monicota school in Palms the North. She's already achieved
Speaker 2: a lot in her career, winning a title with the
Speaker 2: Central Manua and making her debut for the Central Pulse
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty four, she
Speaker 2: stepped up to the international stage as a member of
Speaker 2: the Silver Fern squad, making her debut the same year
Speaker 2: against the England Roses. But Netble isn't her only talent.
Speaker 2: She's a true multi sport athlete, also excelling in basketball
Speaker 2: and touch. In fact, she's a dual international, having represented
Speaker 2: New Zealand with the Tall Ferns in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: And did we mention she's only twenty two years of age?
Speaker 2: Inside Nipple, Welcome Paris Mason. So great that you could
Speaker 2: join us And on your day off, what have you
Speaker 2: been doing? Do you rest recovery? Have you been in
Speaker 2: the pool hot colds. What have you been up to?
Speaker 5: Oh, I've actually had a very chill day.
Speaker 6: I'm heading into the back end of my semester, so
Speaker 6: I'm fairly locked into my laptop every minute of the
Speaker 6: day as much as I can. So I've been at
Speaker 6: the table all day just doing my UNI work, trying
Speaker 6: to handle assignments.
Speaker 1: What are you studying.
Speaker 6: I'm doing a Bachelor of Arts and mathematics, I think,
Speaker 6: with a view to what to becoming a math teacher.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's not a common answer.
Speaker 1: No, that is not.
Speaker 2: Now, Evon's got burning questions over there. What is she
Speaker 2: going to start with?
Speaker 4: No, I haven't. No, you know how you and in
Speaker 4: the introduction that said you play basketball as well, did
Speaker 4: you initially have a bit of trouble adjusting from your
Speaker 4: basketball like defense to your netble defense? Because the reason
Speaker 4: I asked that is because earlier on in your career,
Speaker 4: always energetic, always full of enthusiasm, but you were prone
Speaker 4: to contacts and I remember you know you had quite
Speaker 4: a number of penalties, and I've noticed that over time,
Speaker 4: and certainly in these rounds they have been eliminated and
Speaker 4: make your going for intercepts. So did you find that
Speaker 4: adjustment difficult at all.
Speaker 6: Not particularly Obviously, you're always going to come back a
Speaker 6: little bit more physical. I think I just used to
Speaker 6: be so out of control with my own body, control
Speaker 6: of my own youthful body, so it was just running everywhere.
Speaker 6: But it is always hard to just have like that
Speaker 6: momentary like shift in sports, especially when you're coming from
Speaker 6: you can't really be as physical basketball, and it also
Speaker 6: a little bit of that and a little bit of
Speaker 6: just useful uncontrolledness.
Speaker 3: How key was a Vit McCalls and jury and Manicura
Speaker 3: school in your development? For what of a better.
Speaker 6: Word, Oh, I definitely owe a lot of money cutter
Speaker 6: and a bit. I think moving to that school is
Speaker 6: definitely changed my pathway and where I was going, And
Speaker 6: I am always grateful for the opportunity I did to
Speaker 6: go to that school my years there. I always speak
Speaker 6: very highly of the opportunity as I got given, and
Speaker 6: that came off the back end of AVT always trying
Speaker 6: to push me through the right pathways. And obviously it's
Speaker 6: a privilege being able to have that connection with a
Speaker 6: VET because it doesn't just extend to a coach. I
Speaker 6: do see her as much more in my life. She's
Speaker 6: been a mentor since she kind of got her hands
Speaker 6: on me. So yeah, to be able to have that
Speaker 6: connection with a Vet and still have that connection now
Speaker 6: such an important piece to not only my life, but
Speaker 6: in my families as well. Both her and Paranate are
Speaker 6: very important in our life as a family. So yes,
Speaker 6: money could it was always a blessing for me and
Speaker 6: always a privilege to be able to call that my
Speaker 6: school as well as being able to call a mentor
Speaker 6: in my life.
Speaker 1: Now you spoke of your family. You grew up in Tadanaky.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 5: We love that.
Speaker 2: Your mum kindly reminded me that I actually played against her,
Speaker 2: so that again just reminds me how old I am.
Speaker 2: Big sporting family, you know. To give us a little
Speaker 2: about your when you grew up in Tadanaki, How important
Speaker 2: is that upbringing?
Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously, like it's just small town vibes, you know,
Speaker 6: being a part of the small town It's just that
Speaker 6: a little bit different than I was not essentially a
Speaker 6: New Plymouth, which is considered town.
Speaker 5: I was out in little old Englewood, So.
Speaker 2: That thinks it's a little bit smaller or bigger than
Speaker 2: how woulda.
Speaker 6: Or probably a decent but smaller than no, no, and
Speaker 6: then it was just me and my mom. And then
Speaker 6: I obviously had four brothers. I have four brothers, not
Speaker 6: always well this big age gap, so sometimes it was
Speaker 6: all of us. I don't even know if there was
Speaker 6: a time there was all of us in our house.
Speaker 6: Don't think me was, but you know, they came and go.
Speaker 6: But growing up with all of them, I think the
Speaker 6: biggest part was that our parents, which are so sporty,
Speaker 6: and we spent so many years on the sidelines of them,
Speaker 6: and then when it became our turn, it was just
Speaker 6: like they were always there.
Speaker 5: My siblings always there for me.
Speaker 6: I would always be there for them, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just became our life.
Speaker 6: I mean, if I thought I was busy, I mean,
Speaker 6: my little brother is just they're still going hard as well.
Speaker 6: So my parents are very great at being able to
Speaker 6: make sure that sport was huge in our lives. And
Speaker 6: that definitely came off the backhand of how sporty they
Speaker 6: were and how important sports was in rear life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, excellent. Yeah, I like the idea that you have
Speaker 4: something apart from nepple to fill in as well, because
Speaker 4: I know some of the players know they like they're
Speaker 4: so into the contracts and wondering what they're going to
Speaker 4: do next. But you're obviously looking ahead to your future,
Speaker 4: which I think is wonderful just with regards to the pulse.
Speaker 4: It's something that I look at now. Now, you're a
Speaker 4: team that is known has always said yes they are
Speaker 4: one on one defense, you know, defenders, and the VET
Speaker 4: certainly was into the one on one defense. And yet
Speaker 4: I look at your game and yes, you are sort
Speaker 4: of one on one, but most of the intercepts that
Speaker 4: you take, as well as Kelly Jackson are out of
Speaker 4: the circle and looking for a ball and fight and
Speaker 4: jeepest you know, she goes right up to the transverse line,
Speaker 4: the first transverse line, and you go up to the second.
Speaker 4: So how do you see that happening? And is it
Speaker 4: about taking the intercept or is it about defending tight
Speaker 4: on your player?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think our first, like our main priority, is
Speaker 6: making sure we're taking care of our own man. Me
Speaker 6: and Kelly both have a style where we do like
Speaker 6: to look at especially man, I think I've always gone
Speaker 6: up with a style of being able to hunt, willing
Speaker 6: to see what's in front of me, and just playing
Speaker 6: off the pure and pure instinct.
Speaker 5: That's the word that's playoff, And yeah, I think me
Speaker 5: and Kelly both do that.
Speaker 6: We both encouraged to be able to have encourage each
Speaker 6: other to just go for it. I think it's really
Speaker 6: important if you go turning around and being able to
Speaker 6: say that your mates backshoups are really really key. And
Speaker 6: I think that's what we're great at is that if
Speaker 6: she goes, I know I've got to go and cover her.
Speaker 5: And if I go, she's right there behind me.
Speaker 6: So I think, yes, we're one hundred percent a man
Speaker 6: on team, but that doesn't limit our opportunities to be
Speaker 6: able to go out and play with a bit of freedom.
Speaker 6: I don't think it needs to be just fully structured
Speaker 6: and you stay in one structure. I think being able
Speaker 6: to shift and through both is really important. But definitely
Speaker 6: picking and choosing is also really key for us because
Speaker 6: sometimes we can get lost as well.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember noticing the other day that your
Speaker 3: combination with Kelly and for Amu Yuani. You know, I
Speaker 3: remember last year we talked in commentary quite a bit
Speaker 3: about the you know, the three defenders, and I noticed
Speaker 3: Anna Andrews Tassola at one of the timeouts saying to me,
Speaker 3: you know you call it, what do you want to do?
Speaker 3: They're going to and she called it a man. Is
Speaker 3: she integral to calling some of those defensive calls.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6: We entrust her with our structures, and I think she
Speaker 6: is one hundred percent of person that you can rely
Speaker 6: on her for that. She is such a good person
Speaker 6: to know the game and she knows when we to switch,
Speaker 6: but she also has the capability to trust in us
Speaker 6: and ask us when we need to change. So definitely
Speaker 6: that role lies within her in terms of calling the
Speaker 6: structure and we do what she says at the time.
Speaker 5: But also she is.
Speaker 6: A listener and she will listen when we need help,
Speaker 6: and she wants to problem solve and work as a
Speaker 6: unit just as much as the rest of us. So
Speaker 6: being able to have someone in lead that can actually
Speaker 6: take charge when we need someone to take charge, but
Speaker 6: also someone that can take everyone's knowledge and just make
Speaker 6: sure that we are playing a type of game that
Speaker 6: we all want to play.
Speaker 2: Three rounds in two wins and a loss. How would
Speaker 2: you sum up the team's performance. I mean, we were
Speaker 2: all expecting that you were going to be without a
Speaker 2: few players early in this season. You've got players back
Speaker 2: your mid quarters humming. Are you where you expected to
Speaker 2: be at this point in the seaton? Obviously you would
Speaker 2: liked to have been three ze when having three wins,
Speaker 2: but where do you think the team's at this early?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we definitely had a rough preseason and another just
Speaker 6: trickle off twenty twenty four, which was not the most
Speaker 6: funnest of times, and obviously for the girls that were out,
Speaker 6: it's not always nice being on the sidelines for so long.
Speaker 6: But they worked immensely hard to be prepared for game
Speaker 6: one and we were so grateful that we could put
Speaker 6: it run out for that game one. But at the
Speaker 6: same time, we were pretty confident in the seven that
Speaker 6: we're going to go out there.
Speaker 5: We didn't need as much time.
Speaker 6: I think there we have been a core group for
Speaker 6: a little while now in terms of the Pols franchise
Speaker 6: and being able to just hit the core. I think
Speaker 6: we did our first match play together two days before
Speaker 6: that game, and I think we got minutes five minutes
Speaker 6: of our starting seven and.
Speaker 5: It was just wow. It was just like, we're going
Speaker 5: to be absolute fine.
Speaker 6: Five minutes as all we need, and I think the
Speaker 6: connection we have between all of us was just going
Speaker 6: to show, and I think every single person on the
Speaker 6: court has such an X factor and when we all
Speaker 6: bring it, when we all connect with your I'll call
Speaker 6: us unstoppable.
Speaker 5: But points when we're all firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 4: Oh, I totally agree.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And actually in your first game, I was really excited
Speaker 4: because you utilize the two points structure well on attack,
Speaker 4: you made the substitutions do your coach came into the
Speaker 4: coaching box and I'm going there it is. It's all
Speaker 4: there now. Defensively, like we were talking about the two
Speaker 4: points shot. Defensively, when you're against opposition, when it's at
Speaker 4: last five minutes, do you change your approach like do
Speaker 4: you now defend players to the post or do you
Speaker 4: still stay within your set structures.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I absolutely underestimated how much of the game it was
Speaker 6: going to change and how much you do have to
Speaker 6: change your game plan for that five minutes.
Speaker 5: I think you just have to switch into a different mindset.
Speaker 6: But that five minute comes on, and that's been really
Speaker 6: key throughout the preseason to try and drill that five
Speaker 6: minute strategy or whatever you want to call it in
Speaker 6: that time. It's been difficult to adjust too, because it
Speaker 6: is something that you know, you want to be pushing
Speaker 6: people away from the post, but all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: shooting under the post is absolutely fine and that's what
Speaker 6: you want. And then you and then there comes with
Speaker 6: scoring pressure and if they're up, you know, you just
Speaker 6: got to try and read the other teams, which is
Speaker 6: another factor of the difficulty of trying to adjust to
Speaker 6: this netball. But I think all the teams are doing
Speaker 6: an amazing job of being able to just really embrace
Speaker 6: the two point show. I think it's not natural for
Speaker 6: us a netball but at the same time, it's bringing
Speaker 6: another level of excitement. We are all trying to adapt
Speaker 6: to it and embrace it, and I think it as
Speaker 6: bringing another factor and another inxciting factor to our premiership,
Speaker 6: which is needed at this time.
Speaker 3: Paris a little bit of we're not in decision, but
Speaker 3: you know a bit of doubt over netball and what's
Speaker 3: going to happen next year? Are you going to go
Speaker 3: back to the basketball court. We'll see a bit more
Speaker 3: of you there, It.
Speaker 5: Will not lie.
Speaker 6: If there was ever an opportunity for me to get
Speaker 6: back into a basketball I would absolutely take it. It
Speaker 6: would probably take me a lot more time to try
Speaker 6: and get those skills back so I can. It takes
Speaker 6: me very long to adjust back to basketball. But if
Speaker 6: I ever got the opportunity again to play basketball, I
Speaker 6: think I would one hundred percent take it and try
Speaker 6: it with all my just try it so hard because
Speaker 6: it's such an important part of my life, important part
Speaker 6: of my identity.
Speaker 5: Being able to switch codes. I love it.
Speaker 4: It is my.
Speaker 6: It's not my way out. I wouldn't say that, it's
Speaker 6: just being able to switch off like that. Me going
Speaker 6: over to basketball was a reason for me to switch
Speaker 6: off nipple, and I think that's really important.
Speaker 5: And not having it at the moment has been a.
Speaker 6: Little bit hard, and I'm finding other ways to just
Speaker 6: be immersed into the other sports that I enjoy. But
Speaker 6: if there was ever an opportunity that I could go
Speaker 6: back to basketball, I think I would absolutely take it.
Speaker 1: Do you have a sneak in the odd touch games
Speaker 1: still as well, because you're pretty handy at that too.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I must touch so much.
Speaker 6: I think I went and watched the trans Tasmin series
Speaker 6: with the touch flex, and I was just itching to
Speaker 6: get out there, and I was just like, oh, what
Speaker 6: I would do to throw on some touch boots just
Speaker 6: for one game for one game. But I think the
Speaker 6: last time I played Touch, I only played for one
Speaker 6: day and I left pretty broken, actually, so I don't
Speaker 6: know if that.
Speaker 1: Look, you're very multi talented.
Speaker 2: Right before we let you go, we've got a few
Speaker 2: fast five questions would like to ask you. You can
Speaker 2: say as much or as little as you want for
Speaker 2: these answers.
Speaker 4: The last five on inside their ball.
Speaker 2: I'm going to kick things off with the first one.
Speaker 2: You'll go to post game snack or meal?
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I'm actually really bad at eating after
Speaker 6: a game, so I am still struggling to this day
Speaker 6: in my career to find something I crave after a game.
Speaker 6: But if I had to pick anything, I'm a phizzy girl.
Speaker 6: So the minute I'm off the court, I love a
Speaker 6: phizzy physy coke, which busy sprite.
Speaker 3: Right right right now. Okay, so we've already talked about
Speaker 3: basketball and touch. If you could compete in any other
Speaker 3: sports other than those two, what would it be and why?
Speaker 6: Oh this is quite an easy one. I am quite
Speaker 6: obsessed with American volleyball, like I think just unreal and
Speaker 6: the way that they play sport. I would definitely love
Speaker 6: to be able to go and play volleyball.
Speaker 2: And they're getting huge crowds over there too. It's amazing
Speaker 2: they're packing out stadiums right, and good scholarships. If you
Speaker 2: want scholarships to the States, play volleyball, girls or netball first.
Speaker 2: Obviously in your team, who is most likely to get
Speaker 2: you into trouble and to get you out of trouble?
Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like the ones that get people into trouble.
Speaker 1: Don't know how to answer this.
Speaker 5: I have a feeling I'm probably the one that get
Speaker 5: Who's going to pull me out of it is probably.
Speaker 6: Kelly, but I will actually say Amelia will get me
Speaker 6: into trouble.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If you could take any three athletes in the world
Speaker 3: card or present, with no carrodal past with you to dinner,
Speaker 3: who would you invite?
Speaker 5: Sorry, say that one again.
Speaker 3: So, if you could take three athletes in the world,
Speaker 3: whether or not you know, dead or alive with you
Speaker 3: to dinner, who would you take with you?
Speaker 1: Who would you love to talk to?
Speaker 5: Kobe Bryant?
Speaker 4: Who? Yeah?
Speaker 5: And I will have to say Captain Clark.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Well, it's been amazing how many basketball and tennis, definitely
Speaker 2: the two dominant sports, have had. And if you were
Speaker 2: only on Earth, for one more night and you were
Speaker 2: having a meal.
Speaker 1: Why were we this with food? If you have one thing,
Speaker 1: one meal left in your life, what would it be?
Speaker 5: Oh, steak, hot eggs, creamy mushrooms and sprite.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: Now I want to add one more question, because if
Speaker 3: it's not fast five, it's fast six.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: I suspect that Paris would have had quite a bit
Speaker 3: of good advice over her time. Best piece of advice
Speaker 3: anyone ever gave you?
Speaker 5: Oh well, that is so, that's a great question.
Speaker 6: I feel like I've had a lot of great advice,
Speaker 6: But I think the one that I always find myself
Speaker 6: leaning towards is because of how much being a dual
Speaker 6: athlete means to me. I would always tell if it
Speaker 6: is not affecting you in immense ways, stay a jewel
Speaker 6: and a duel sporting person for as long as you could,
Speaker 6: because I think it is such a great opportunity to
Speaker 6: be able to play both. And I think you should
Speaker 6: never specialize early. If you want to play both, you
Speaker 6: should always be allowed to pursue both. And I think
Speaker 6: there's so much segamare in high schools around you can
Speaker 6: only play one sport, and stuff like that, and I
Speaker 6: definitely just always fought that boundary and I think it's
Speaker 6: always been actually vantage in my life, and I think
Speaker 6: that's my main thing.
Speaker 5: It's never ever specialized early.
Speaker 6: I feel capable to do it because it's just it's
Speaker 6: a privilege to be able to just play as much
Speaker 6: sports as you can.
Speaker 5: For as long as you can.
Speaker 2: A men, Amy, I love that I have fought so
Speaker 2: hard for this for my children. Balance is better all
Speaker 2: of the research says. It so great to hear that
Speaker 2: coming from you. We really appreciate your time. Been amazing
Speaker 2: to chat to you, and all the best for you
Speaker 2: and pending match against this feel Thanks very much, Paris, cheers,
Speaker 2: Thanks you.
Speaker 4: Guys, see you Thanks Paris the Inside Netball podcast talking
Speaker 4: all things netball Inside Netball.
Speaker 1: Wasn't she fabulous? How good she was? Great?
Speaker 2: And I love that you were also nodding away over
Speaker 2: the evon when she was talking about Jill Sports.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really interesting when she was talking about
Speaker 4: that because as Silver Firn's coach, I had a couple
Speaker 4: of athletes that want to do both and it was
Speaker 4: a situate. Donald Wilkins, in fact, was one of those. Linda, Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it was quite difficult at times because of the
Speaker 4: training and the training is slightly different. Totally appreciate it,
Speaker 4: and certainly we work together to try to achieve that.
Speaker 4: Appreciate In those days though it wasn't a full time adventure,
Speaker 4: so you know, we're able to do that more recently though.
Speaker 4: And I was talking to Grays and Wiki she was
Speaker 4: a great high jumper and she had to give that away,
Speaker 4: And I'm going, oh, what a shame you had to
Speaker 4: give that away, and that you couldn't combine it with
Speaker 4: what you're doing now, because I know that it was
Speaker 4: a love for her and she was a really good
Speaker 4: high jumper and probably still is.
Speaker 3: But don't you think that. I often say to some people, Oh,
Speaker 3: of course she was a high jumper, and you can tell.
Speaker 3: So it brings attributes, facets whatever to her game and
Speaker 3: you can see that, you know, nobody jumps like you
Speaker 3: know Wiki does. It's fabulous. And I remember Anner Stanley
Speaker 3: all those years ago. She was an athlete, a runner,
Speaker 3: and she said that helped her netball so much.
Speaker 2: And not just the physical attributes. But you heard Paris
Speaker 2: then says, well, that was your time away from the
Speaker 2: netble court, you know, because it's just different people, different cultures,
Speaker 2: different connections that you're making within those other sports as well.
Speaker 2: So he is hoping she gets an opportunity at some
Speaker 2: point because she's obviously exceptionally talented, and how cool someone's
Speaker 2: so vivacious.
Speaker 1: Great to think she wants to be a mass teacher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love it. I want her to teach my children.
Speaker 2: Well, actually they'll be finished by then, but great, hope
Speaker 2: they better be finished by then, so I really could
Speaker 2: really appreciate her time, Jenny. When we started chatting today,
Speaker 2: you may mention all three Awaitings won in round three.
Speaker 2: So let's look back at round three. All sixteens also
Speaker 2: now have a point on the board. Magic they got
Speaker 2: that bonus point forty four forty eight was a loss
Speaker 2: to the Tactics, but let's start with the Pulse game.
Speaker 2: They were against the Stars. The Pulse came away with
Speaker 2: a significant twenty four goal win sixty nine forty five.
Speaker 2: Even on the Stars last week, they probably surprised us
Speaker 2: all the week before, sorry, coming out when that had
Speaker 2: so much to deal with. This week, did it look
Speaker 2: like some of their energy had just been taken out
Speaker 2: of here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was interesting because yeah, it was like,
Speaker 4: in spite of everything it's happened, they came together. I
Speaker 4: think they really played that one as a team. But
Speaker 4: this time you're going to have to give credit to
Speaker 4: Polls as well and Jackson. The previous week when she
Speaker 4: played a Misstex and she played Walloin, that was a chance.
Speaker 4: I think that we an encounter we really wanted to see.
Speaker 4: And while I'm won that encounter, this time she was
Speaker 4: playing against Charlie Bell, tallest player in the league, goal shooter,
Speaker 4: and we're going, so, how are these two going to
Speaker 4: equate against one another? And Jackson won that battle, and
Speaker 4: I think her and Paris Mason, I thought really defensively
Speaker 4: did really well and Stars actually had trouble getting that
Speaker 4: ball into the shooters, and different to the last week,
Speaker 4: they didn't get the intercepts that they thought they were
Speaker 4: going to get.
Speaker 2: So was it.
Speaker 4: It was a totally different game actually, And whilst obviously
Speaker 4: we didn't want the score to be the way it was,
Speaker 4: were always going to win that and you know, they
Speaker 4: set the tone early on sixteen eight was a mass quarter.
Speaker 4: The other person I was impressed with and I sort
Speaker 4: of had a bit of a go, not a go,
Speaker 4: but I sort of said, and that was that was
Speaker 4: Warmsley because I said, you know there were soft turnovers
Speaker 4: the previous week. Well, I thought she really stood up
Speaker 4: to the mark in this one. I thought she were
Speaker 4: strong under the post fifty five out of fifty eight.
Speaker 4: So she's their dominant tudor, she's their go to girl,
Speaker 4: and she delivered well.
Speaker 3: And I think she underlined the fact that during the
Speaker 3: week she'd put out a usually saying confirming her availability
Speaker 3: for the World Youth Cup and the Constellation Cup. And
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, that's an interesting thing to do. But
Speaker 3: it is an interesting thing to do because we know
Speaker 3: that Wee Ki isn't available at the moment, and I
Speaker 3: would imagine, you know, that goal shoot bib could be
Speaker 3: between Walmsley and Salmon perhaps, And so she's just saying
Speaker 3: I want it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And great to hear that she wants to play under
Speaker 2: twenty ones as well, because you could focus on solar
Speaker 2: firms and.
Speaker 1: Go, no, my priority sits here. So fabulous to hear
Speaker 1: that she is.
Speaker 2: I really want to move on to these tap but
Speaker 2: I want to ask you one question first, even because
Speaker 2: I have know your opinionated on these season, I'm not Malisella.
Speaker 2: She's coming on strategically. Do we like Do we like
Speaker 2: that she's coming on strategically for that two point shot? Yes?
Speaker 4: So yes or no? Yes, absolutely, because she's a two
Speaker 4: point shooter and she is comfortable shooting. You know that
Speaker 4: when she gets ball in hand and that last five
Speaker 4: minutes she's there. Having said that, I also like her
Speaker 4: court play and I like the way she plays, So
Speaker 4: sometimes you go, you know, you don't want to just
Speaker 4: be like the impact player, and you know, I think
Speaker 4: she's better than that. And sometimes, and certainly the tactics
Speaker 4: have shown with Salmon, she isn't just that two points.
Speaker 4: She actually plays like half a game. I would like
Speaker 4: to see Malisalla play a little bit more than just
Speaker 4: that impact player. And I'm sure if you spoke to
Speaker 4: her and if she was totally honest, she would bomb
Speaker 4: it as well. But she's thriving on the two points.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I love She's just so rare, you know,
Speaker 2: it's brilliant. I'm talking about emotional game tactics. Magic so
Speaker 2: defensive gen You and I were both there. Both of
Speaker 2: these teams desperately wanted the win. Magic had only won
Speaker 2: one quarter leaning into this match. They actually only finished
Speaker 2: this match with winning two quarters in three games so far,
Speaker 2: but a brilliant match overall.
Speaker 3: But isn't it funny you think back on that game
Speaker 3: and all the highlights in your head, you know, you
Speaker 3: have a little relay going in your head are all
Speaker 3: Magic And you said, no, now, how can that be?
Speaker 3: But no, I thought it was outstanding and it just
Speaker 3: delivered a spectacle to those loyal Magic supporters who had
Speaker 3: gone along. But I just I love the fact that
Speaker 3: Jane Watson and Karen Berger there were some moments of
Speaker 3: play that were just sublime, And you know, I thought,
Speaker 3: this is what we need building up two common games next.
Speaker 2: Year forty eight forty four, so only four points in it.
Speaker 2: Hence they got the bonus point edgecumb for me though
Speaker 2: even honestly, she was and that's where she was the
Speaker 2: highlight roil. When we had our five best moments of
Speaker 2: the game, I think she was in about three of them.
Speaker 2: She was just not only was she taking the intersept,
Speaker 2: but she had the strength and composure to control it
Speaker 2: and get the pass away.
Speaker 1: That's one of the hardest things, right.
Speaker 4: You said it, absolutely totally agree, you know, playing from
Speaker 4: the wing defense position yeah, she got a number of balls,
Speaker 4: and you know, and I think she got Player of
Speaker 4: the Game actually, and that's from a losing team. Normally
Speaker 4: to take it from a winning team. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: she looked down caught all the time. She was strong,
Speaker 4: and she was asking for the ball. In fact, at
Speaker 4: times she was demanding the ball, and that's something a
Speaker 4: definite step up from her because in the past she
Speaker 4: was sort of the player in the back and she
Speaker 4: was taking it, you know, from every other player from
Speaker 4: Eclasia in particular. But now it's a situation, give me
Speaker 4: the ball and I will deliver and totally deserve Player
Speaker 4: of the Game. But it's interesting Ichanasio is still leaving
Speaker 4: the two point shot mainly for Tui two. He came
Speaker 4: to the equation in this game. I thought that, certainly
Speaker 4: the shooting stats were a lot better, but it still
Speaker 4: surprised me. She takes them when she really has to,
Speaker 4: but generally speaking, she's involved in the attacking play or
Speaker 4: she's underneath the post, and I'm going, but you're a
Speaker 4: brilliant two point shooter. The good thing, and you alluded
Speaker 4: to it, was that Berger and Watson. I think the
Speaker 4: combination certainly was a lot better, and Berger in particular
Speaker 4: got some valuable intercept whereas in the previous game she
Speaker 4: was found wanting and I think she was very frustrated.
Speaker 4: So slowly they're coming and that's what I'm saying, you know,
Speaker 4: still very inconsistent teams and second round could be really
Speaker 4: really interesting. The player.
Speaker 3: I have to mention Ariana Cable des call in for
Speaker 3: a head knock to Alie Wilshire. Now what do you
Speaker 3: do if your mj ATARO do you well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We can take Livin so that would take it up Tom,
Speaker 2: just cost you a little bit more money.
Speaker 3: She played all but four minutes, and when she had
Speaker 3: to take her off, I presume MJ thought, you know,
Speaker 3: I've got to give her a rest. She's not been
Speaker 3: playing this level of Netbull. And they were I think
Speaker 3: they were up by one. She came back on three
Speaker 3: four minutes later they were down by three three, And
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's probably too simplistic to say
Speaker 3: that was all on Cable Dixon, but there were a
Speaker 3: few things that I thought, Oh and of course sure
Speaker 3: enough she came back on and they didn't win, but
Speaker 3: they got a bonus point and they were a lot happier.
Speaker 2: I think with that she is there, go to a
Speaker 2: girl when they need someone, she steps up and she's
Speaker 2: done a very very good job. But that game was exciting,
Speaker 2: but then it went up a whole level down in Dunedin.
Speaker 1: Fifty five fifty four the steal, they was it. They
Speaker 1: were up by three. I think with how long ago
Speaker 1: the game they had it, what happened? What happened?
Speaker 4: It was an unbelievable game. I did the radio commentary
Speaker 4: on it, and I was really tired at the end.
Speaker 4: I was shocked, you know. And certainly mystics made the
Speaker 4: most of the opportunities. Don't take that away from them,
Speaker 4: you know, And both teams made simple errors, but it
Speaker 4: was a situation at the end. It really was for
Speaker 4: two minutes ago they said forty forty seconds, I believe
Speaker 4: it was longer than that, and still had it and
Speaker 4: they just needed to just carry on playing the game
Speaker 4: that they were playing. And on the whole, yeah, I
Speaker 4: thought that they were the stronger team. And then what
Speaker 4: happened in that last quarter, and we talked about the
Speaker 4: two pointers, and Vuie took a two pointer and that
Speaker 4: really turned the tables, because then it was a situation,
Speaker 4: Steele was only one goal up and suddenly you know,
Speaker 4: well here we're going what is going on here? And
Speaker 4: it was mystic center pass off, So really interesting. But
Speaker 4: look at it still still without Kate Heffernon. You imagine
Speaker 4: Kate Hefferon and Kimiro Poi being together through that mid court.
Speaker 4: You spoke about the mid court earlier on and they do.
Speaker 4: They set the tone both on attack and defense. So
Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting. I think Steele's just going
Speaker 4: to go get better and better every game played. Interesting.
Speaker 4: That was a situation where Wallam was injured late in.
Speaker 1: The dear court and we've heard nothing more about that.
Speaker 4: But she was strapped and she was ready to go
Speaker 4: back on.
Speaker 3: Go to the mystics just a little while ago, and
Speaker 3: they were saying, I couldn't get into it, get a
Speaker 3: scan yesterday, hoping to get in today.
Speaker 4: They're holding back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because she was sort of waving and wrist around
Speaker 3: on what he had.
Speaker 1: It was a little hand though, wasn't it not her?
Speaker 4: I said that. I said she could just leave that
Speaker 4: hand down and just shoot the one really and it
Speaker 4: didn't affect her feet, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 4: young and she was on hand, she was ready to
Speaker 4: go back on. But and it was interesting because then
Speaker 4: you had obviously the situation with Win Glenn on together.
Speaker 4: Now that combination you've got to appreciate stythe coming from
Speaker 4: the mystics. So being down there, she will have known
Speaker 4: about that combination and she will have worked that combination.
Speaker 4: And still actually, if you have a look at that
Speaker 4: last quarter, yes they wanted twelve eight in the end,
Speaker 4: but they were really up by a lot more earlier
Speaker 4: on in that round, you know, And then everyone's saying
Speaker 4: when when suddenly you've got two other going into the
Speaker 4: goal of tack position. And initially my reaction was, oh,
Speaker 4: how does Glenn feel about this being replaced by wing attack?
Speaker 4: But I think the main reason that that was done,
Speaker 4: and it was done really, really carefully and quietly. But
Speaker 4: it was a situation again, something different that Stife in
Speaker 4: particular didn't know about. And if you have a look
Speaker 4: at it, she mainly did the big feed, you know,
Speaker 4: the feeds in and she did a lot of running
Speaker 4: around because she tried to obviously break the defenders apart
Speaker 4: so that it was an easy pass into Vouie. And
Speaker 4: I'm still saying if Voie hadn't taken that two points
Speaker 4: and nailed it. Initially, we're holding our breath. But had
Speaker 4: she not that done that, then you know, still would
Speaker 4: have won. There.
Speaker 1: I was shouting, why are you taking that?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: Good one?
Speaker 5: How much of it was?
Speaker 3: Do you think putting in two shorter shooters against two
Speaker 3: tall timbers that's inpatting. Yeah, but that's good, isn't it.
Speaker 3: That's tactics, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, it is, But I don't think. Yes,
Speaker 4: you can say it was a tactical change, and yes
Speaker 4: you can say that Peter had been training there, but oh,
Speaker 4: come on, this is a precious situation. Don't give me that.
Speaker 3: Precious bobby.
Speaker 4: Okay, and still sorry, but at the end, still lost
Speaker 4: that game, and certainly Mystics capitalized on that that era
Speaker 4: that was made, but it was it was a sort
Speaker 4: of a game made for the goal shooters. You have
Speaker 4: a look at it. Interesting Mystics two three passes straight
Speaker 4: into their shooter right when Wallam was on, and she's
Speaker 4: shot thirty two out of thirty five other end of
Speaker 4: the court. The Steel had to play that ball around
Speaker 4: a number of times before it had got into done.
Speaker 4: But done was right there. Forty one out of forty.
Speaker 3: Does that really well? But don't you love the coaching
Speaker 3: of Wendy Frew? Oh my goodness, I hate to talk
Speaker 3: to her after the game, so would I? She looked daggers,
Speaker 3: didn't she? But I just love that thing about you know,
Speaker 3: she'd be going off, you know, give it your all.
Speaker 3: I'll come up and pick off the court if need be.
Speaker 3: And I thought, yes, she's a brilliant human. But and
Speaker 3: it's a little bit like when we spoke to Donna.
Speaker 3: Well you heard when you guys spoke to who spoke
Speaker 3: to know? I can't read you, guys.
Speaker 2: I listened to your interview with it, and she talked
Speaker 2: about you know, it's not only your own performance as
Speaker 2: a player as a coach, as.
Speaker 1: You know, Yvonne, it's everybody's. And you have these sleepless nights.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure it must have been a rough night
Speaker 2: for Wendy that night because it was there for the taking,
Speaker 2: so that one would have it.
Speaker 4: Wasn't that interesting how you asked them whether you know
Speaker 4: it was easier as players or as a coach. The
Speaker 4: answers loving the answersolutely, And now you hear them as
Speaker 4: coaches and all these players are our coaches, you know,
Speaker 4: and Timmy Para Bailey for example, you know, and she's
Speaker 4: she's gone all the words, she says all the right things.
Speaker 4: I'm going, what happened to you as a player? Why
Speaker 4: do you say those words? And I'm going, you are kidding?
Speaker 4: Love seeing them as coaches.
Speaker 2: It's just added a whole new dimension to this, to
Speaker 2: this whole tournament, which is awesome. Let's look around four.
Speaker 2: Who that was a good round Round three? What about
Speaker 2: Round four? Tactics, mystics, Jen it's.
Speaker 1: In Langey order. A lot will a lot hang on
Speaker 1: the fact whether Wallam is going to be available.
Speaker 3: I think so yeah, And on that I think she
Speaker 3: will be and I think they'll win the Mystics.
Speaker 4: Same answer here and again, home and away. It's irrelevant
Speaker 4: any anymore. If you look at the game plan of
Speaker 4: the teams. Yeah, I think if Walllem's back, then mystics
Speaker 4: because I think they will not be able to contain
Speaker 4: that hype factor in that circle.
Speaker 2: I think we're all going to go mistics. But with
Speaker 2: a little asterix, right, we've got mystics. If Wallam's there,
Speaker 2: and if she's not, I will make it a lot more.
Speaker 2: Even I think it was good to.
Speaker 4: See Barry find another shooter, though they'll have to.
Speaker 3: Fine there, you'd have somebody in your back pocket or something.
Speaker 4: Well, there was quite a good little player that played
Speaker 4: Club Nepple.
Speaker 1: From Australia.
Speaker 4: Pretty good.
Speaker 2: We're not stealing another We can't wish team. You've already stolen, Kayla,
Speaker 2: No to pretend you saw that. Okay, so we're going
Speaker 2: miss six with a little asterix then and in the
Speaker 2: cargo on Sunday Steal Pulse. We all agree that Steel
Speaker 2: looked much better, but are they good enough to beat
Speaker 2: this pulse? Side Worth, Paris Mason Worth, Kelly Jackson actually
Speaker 2: without forgetting about Yoanni, I think there's a really good point.
Speaker 1: It's that defensive trio that are making it so so hard.
Speaker 3: Well, I think they are who the Steel. I think
Speaker 3: they're good enough, and I think they all have been
Speaker 3: so injured by that last minute loss. I'm going to
Speaker 3: pick them to win. It is at home they've not Yeah,
Speaker 3: but we don't care about that.
Speaker 4: We don't care about that anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, Well, it's obviously the stats not great for them
Speaker 2: at home currently after last season, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also a totally different team to last season.
Speaker 4: So I look at the stats, Yeah, you're just looking
Speaker 4: at the quality of play. At the moment, I'm actually
Speaker 4: going to go Pulse, mainly because I think Jackson may
Speaker 4: get the better of Done and Done is such a
Speaker 4: critical player in the Steal. I mean, look at it.
Speaker 4: She takes the majority of shot. She takes them from
Speaker 4: the baseline and reasonably close. That's where I think Jackson
Speaker 4: will come to the party. So yeah, overall, if you
Speaker 4: look at it as a total team, I would have
Speaker 4: to pick the Pulse on that one.
Speaker 1: And they know each other so well. Alia and Kelly Jackson, right,
Speaker 1: they just played.
Speaker 2: They've played the same team for many, many years, so
Speaker 2: they've been at practice together.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with my heart. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go Steal at home.
Speaker 2: They're hurting, They're going to come back, and I think
Speaker 2: it's going to be tight, though, I hope it's going
Speaker 2: to be tight. So the last one is on Monday
Speaker 2: Night and it's The Magic and the Stars. These two
Speaker 2: teams are sitting at the bottom of the table. Magic
Speaker 2: Gin they are desperate for when all signs are they're
Speaker 2: hitting that way, But can they stop Charlie Bell Because
Speaker 2: have they got the defensive firepower to stop that high.
Speaker 3: I think they have because they've got Makyrie. They've got
Speaker 3: the height. I know it's not quite as tall as
Speaker 3: but she's not far away. But I think they found
Speaker 3: the mojo. I think they know that they are good
Speaker 3: enough to win, and that hurts me a little bit
Speaker 3: because I'm fond of the Stars. But I've got to
Speaker 3: pick something, and I think I'll go with the Magic.
Speaker 4: This is going to be a bonus point game. Can
Speaker 4: I leave it at that. It's gonna be really it's
Speaker 4: gonna be closer, and you're right. I think the Stars
Speaker 4: they're in a situation they have to regroup double hurting
Speaker 4: absolutely from the week before. They know what they can
Speaker 4: play like and they haven't played like it Magic. I
Speaker 4: think they are getting better, but I'm in a situation.
Speaker 4: I know both coaches.
Speaker 5: Really well.
Speaker 4: Players. I'm not going to stick my neck out on
Speaker 4: this line and I am going to stay on the feence.
Speaker 3: The bonus point game is a good answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, that's good.
Speaker 4: We like that.
Speaker 2: I think I'm I'm actually going to agree with you, Jen.
Speaker 2: I think the Magic are just going to be so
Speaker 2: desperate and they're going to have had confidence. It's at
Speaker 2: home again in Hamilton. I know you two are going
Speaker 2: doesn't matter home and away, but that crowd was awesome
Speaker 2: last week. Hamilton are very very good at getting your
Speaker 2: crowd and I hope they do again on that Monday
Speaker 2: night because Magic are going to need them the confidence
Speaker 2: they would have built from that game. Edgecombe sublime, Tong,
Speaker 2: very very good. So those are the matchups that going
Speaker 2: to be key.
Speaker 1: All the stars. You know, who are they going to
Speaker 1: put at goal? Attack?
Speaker 2: Is it going to be a Maya Wilson? Are they
Speaker 2: going to mix that up? So many things that are
Speaker 2: going to be interesting. It's been so hard this season
Speaker 2: to pick up. We I feel like last season we
Speaker 2: were basically bang on every week. This season we've been wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't think we've even got someone in a.
Speaker 4: Way we mistic should just be allowed to carry on,
Speaker 4: right and then what a fight for who's going to
Speaker 4: be in that second and third position? And I think
Speaker 4: that's what at the moment. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 4: early on, but that's you're looking at that as well,
Speaker 4: and so it is still anyone's game. Now. We said
Speaker 4: go from three rounds to two rounds because it's a
Speaker 4: situation where you can have a few losses. But now
Speaker 4: we're going home. Mate, it's only two rounds. You need
Speaker 4: to get to the business end and that second round
Speaker 4: is gonna be crucial.
Speaker 2: And you go to you need to place yourself well,
Speaker 2: you're right by the end of this round. You need
Speaker 2: to be well placed at the moment the points table
Speaker 2: missis on nine points, tactic seven, pulse six, then it
Speaker 2: drops down to the stair on four stars.
Speaker 1: Three and the magic on one.
Speaker 2: So yes, there is a bit of a stretch, but
Speaker 2: definitely there's a number of teams right in it to
Speaker 2: make that. You again, you only have to make that
Speaker 2: top three. You've got that opportunity with the elimination final.
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Speaker 1: how are we going to fill in forty minutes?
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