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Speaker 1: Barry So for senior political correspondence here.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Barry, Good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: You reckon the government was sounding down beat today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were a bit downbeat, I must say day.

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Speaker 2: But first of all, I'd like to address listeners that

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Speaker 2: say there was no into the coup, press lucks and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we don't sit here and make these

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Speaker 2: things up. We talked to a number of people, and

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Speaker 2: the sources have to remain anonymous because that's how journalists operate.

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Speaker 2: But believe me, there was We know the people that

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Speaker 2: were involved, and we may see some moves in the

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Speaker 2: cabinet reshuffling tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Don't have to get that upset about Linda's text. It

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Speaker 1: was one text from them.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I'm not upset about when I've

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Speaker 2: seen it come time and time again, and I see

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Speaker 2: King Charles is going to go ahead with his trip

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Speaker 2: to Washington.

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Speaker 1: Well they'd better wrap up the war then before this

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Speaker 1: is what Trump will be working to a weird deadline

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Speaker 1: like that. Now, listen, tell me why do you think

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Speaker 1: the government was sounding.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, they were subdued at question time. I

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Speaker 2: felt in Parliament today. Fuel stocks may be plentiful for now,

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Speaker 2: that is, but it's the downstream effect that's being felt

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Speaker 2: by hard press Kiwis, and we all know that that's

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Speaker 2: been acknowledged by both Finance Minister and the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: in Parliament this afternoon. Many would say they're preaching the

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Speaker 2: bleedingly obvious here, they are doing it anyway.

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Speaker 3: The conflict will have a negative impact on the economy

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Speaker 3: through prices, but also potentially through other channels like shipping disruptions,

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Speaker 3: freight costs, reduced demand for New Zealand exports, financial markets disruption,

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Speaker 3: and greater uncertainty. New Zealand is poorer because of these

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Speaker 3: global events, and how big that impact is depends on

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Speaker 3: how the conflict evolves and how it gets resolved.

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Speaker 4: We are doing everything we can to support Kiwis, but

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Speaker 4: we are also not going to repeat the mistakes of

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Speaker 4: COVID that led to thirty two year high inflation and

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Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty billion dollars worth of debt. But

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Speaker 4: it's all very easy to fire a cash berzooker around

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Speaker 4: and that creates a lots of short term gain, but

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Speaker 4: it creates endless long term pain.

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Speaker 2: So you know, here's this. They have been acknowledging it

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Speaker 2: all along, of course, but you know they've been more

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Speaker 2: upbeat when they come to basically assisting those who are

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Speaker 2: feeling it very difficult at the moment. There will be

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Speaker 2: an announcement tomorrow. Help is on its way, at least

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Speaker 2: for some which labors. Barbara Edmunds managed to extract from

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Speaker 2: Nikola Willis.

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Speaker 5: How will she quote blunt the impact unquote on care

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Speaker 5: and support workers who are reportedly having to refuse jobs

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Speaker 5: because they cannot afford the fuel to get there.

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Speaker 3: Mister speaker. The government will make an announcement on that tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: How will she quote blunt the impact unquote on a

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Speaker 5: net ninety three percent of businesses who are expecting costs

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Speaker 5: to increase.

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Speaker 3: Almost a speaker. It is not within my power to

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Speaker 3: end the conflict in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it couldn't be worse, could it for

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Speaker 2: a government when the economic indicators were just beginning to

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Speaker 2: turn and now they're facing this dreadful situation in months.

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Speaker 2: It's the old trumpy. My mate said today that, look,

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Speaker 2: the rest of the world can look after Hormer's straight

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Speaker 2: because we don't use it that much anyway. And I

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Speaker 2: heard a very good commentator today say that basically that's

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Speaker 2: like going into a pottery shop and smacking, smashing all

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Speaker 2: the pots, then going outside and telling others to fix

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Speaker 2: them up or pay for the damage.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts on the.

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Speaker 1: Royal margen see how quickly I'm I'm just moving Thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the Royal Morgan.

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Speaker 2: Pot again a dreadful pole. You'd have to say for National,

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Speaker 2: it's basically a hung parliament. But and the Morgan pole,

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Speaker 2: I see you mentioned that in twenty twenty it was

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Speaker 2: the most accurate and I guess all polls will end

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Speaker 2: up in that situation at some stage when they take

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Speaker 2: a punt. Anyway, but it shows that the National lead

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Speaker 2: government to act New Zealand First on forty seven point five,

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Speaker 2: down one point and effectively tied with Labor, the Greens

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Speaker 2: and the Moldi Party. That the oppositions are on forty

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Speaker 2: eight percent, up one percent. But if you look at

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Speaker 2: the parties in particular, and this will be the big

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Speaker 2: worry for National at the moment, National dropped four and

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Speaker 2: a half percent to twenty six and a half, it's

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Speaker 2: lowest support since it was elected to office in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three, and support for New Zealand First. And this

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Speaker 2: is where it comes in, doesn't it really? Up one

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Speaker 2: point five percent to eleven, the highest level of support

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Speaker 2: it's had since being elected into government, while support for

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Speaker 2: Act was up two percent to ten. So it's those

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Speaker 2: minor parties that are picking up support where Nationals losing.

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Speaker 1: Out now, but they had lost some of that support.

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Speaker 1: About one percent of the support also bled across to Labor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just going to say that here. The support

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Speaker 2: for Labor increased by four percent up to thirty four percent.

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Speaker 2: The Greens dropped three and a half percent to eleven,

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Speaker 2: and the Maldi party was up zero point five percent

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Speaker 2: to three. But of course they've got to win all

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Speaker 2: their seats for this to be a hung parliament. But

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Speaker 2: when you look at the support, National would win thirty

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Speaker 2: and this is the key. Really National win thirty three seats,

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Speaker 2: down sixteen from the last election. And that's why you

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Speaker 2: get rumbling because they're sixteen people could be out of

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Speaker 2: the right, sixteen.

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Speaker 1: People who want their jobs all right, Barry, thanks very

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Speaker 1: much appreciated, Barry so Per, Senior political correspondent. For more

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