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Speaker 1: It turns out that the police have not been enforcing the

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Speaker 1: law that bans smoking and vaping in cars with kids.

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Speaker 1: So three years after the law was passed, no fines

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Speaker 1: have been handed out. What's going on here? Chris car

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Speaker 1: Hill of the Police Association with US, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mine.

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Speaker 1: Did you do this deliberately or not?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think probably deliberately you pass the silly law.

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Speaker 2: It's probably going to get ignored to a degree. I

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Speaker 2: think it's prior from police. It's a priority point of view.

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Speaker 2: They can't do everything, and this probably cily fell up

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Speaker 2: a priority list. But then it's going to boil down

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Speaker 2: the individual officers who have discretion, and I suspect most

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Speaker 2: of them again to find there's much more important things

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Speaker 2: to do with how I think this is a priority.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps they should get out and spend their time and

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Speaker 2: money on educating people and want to they can pick

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Speaker 2: up their mental health.

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Speaker 1: So what they want you to do is pull over

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Speaker 1: the car, check the license, check the warrant, check the drugs,

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Speaker 1: check the drink. Then you get to checking the vaping.

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Speaker 2: Is that how this rates exactly? I mean, police have

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Speaker 2: to what do you want us to do? You want

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Speaker 2: to three point three million breast screening tests. Do you

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Speaker 2: want us to plase the gangs? Do you want to

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Speaker 2: to do the retail crime? The boy racers you know

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Speaker 2: that walk the beat? And Auckland police can't do everything

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Speaker 2: and they've clearly decided this isn't a priority. And I

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Speaker 2: think when this law passed, I said at the time,

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Speaker 2: it's a stupid law. It's not what police should we

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Speaker 2: be get involved down to us. You've got an issue

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Speaker 2: with smoking and vaping, you deal with it as a

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Speaker 2: health issue, not as a policing So ironic.

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Speaker 1: I thought too that you've taken a health approach to it,

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Speaker 1: and yet the Greens, who were part of the last

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Speaker 1: government to it agree, would argue you should take a

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Speaker 1: health approach to cannabis as well. So they want you

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Speaker 1: to enforce vaping but not enforce cannabis. Where's the logic

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Speaker 1: in that?

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Speaker 2: There no logic. It just doesn't make sense. And look,

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Speaker 2: the one thing I do everything turns about these laws,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be wouldn't be a fine started getting dissed out,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee immediately will get issues around the equity who's

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Speaker 2: getting given the sign and it will be the whole

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Speaker 2: Despite that police aren't being could have in the way

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Speaker 2: they operate with those times. It's not the answer. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to help these people give up smoking and

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Speaker 2: give up vaping.

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Speaker 1: Would you do them for texting as well? So you

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Speaker 1: could get them for vaping, texting, drink drugs warrant license.

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Speaker 1: Then you could hop in the back seat and give

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Speaker 1: them some child advice and education advice at the safe time. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then when they talk about mental health issues, who

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Speaker 2: will sit down and give us a captainy for that

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Speaker 2: whole in here?

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Speaker 1: Get only Chris nice to talk to your Chris car

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