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Speaker 1: Together due for see Allen. Ah. Yeah, look, I'm getting

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Speaker 1: a lot of texts about the AID. I think we

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Speaker 1: can all agree. Having the un do the AID in

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Speaker 1: Gaza's probably a little problematic given that last time they

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Speaker 1: were doing it they were infiltrated by Hummas. You'll just

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Speaker 1: google Unra and Hummas and you'll find that story. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: past five. Now, this is alarming. After being told for

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Speaker 1: how long that we need to get enough sleep, it's

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Speaker 1: emerged at getting too much sleep will actually kill you early.

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Speaker 1: Dr Alex Bartel is a sleep expert from the Sleep

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Speaker 1: Well Clinic and with us.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey Alex, oh, good evening.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe this? Does this sound right to you?

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Speaker 1: That people who sleep more than nine hours a night

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Speaker 1: are thirty four percent more likely to have shorter lives?

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Speaker 2: Yes, and the reasons for that, and this is a

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Speaker 2: repeat of a study that's been done a number of

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Speaker 2: times now that too short sleep well, we all know

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Speaker 2: about that, that's been around for ages. But too long

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Speaker 2: sleep sounds a bit wrong. But nearly always we're sleeping

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Speaker 2: too much time more than nine or was certainly more

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Speaker 2: than ten hours because of some underlying condition. So in

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Speaker 2: itself that sleep long long sleep isn't causing the illness.

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Speaker 2: It's often some illness is causing the long sleep, and

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Speaker 2: it may be that illness that's resulting in the higher

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Speaker 2: death rate.

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Speaker 1: Ah okay, so maybe that there's something already wrong requiring

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Speaker 1: more sleep. How do you then know? I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you are there people alex who simply need to sleep

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Speaker 1: eight and a half to nine hours a night.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, genetically it can be possible. About two percent

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Speaker 2: of the population are really quite long sleepers, sort of

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Speaker 2: more than nine hours. But you know, when you get

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Speaker 2: more than ten hours, there's something wrong, and so usually

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Speaker 2: the GP will have done something about that, like tested

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Speaker 2: for thyroid problems or diabetes. Depression will often cause people

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Speaker 2: to sleep longer. But of course sleep aup near is

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Speaker 2: the other one where people get very sleepy and may

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Speaker 2: need more sleep than usual, but often still feel tired

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Speaker 2: during the day.

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Speaker 1: How do you know, I mean, if you feel like

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Speaker 1: you need eight and a half to nine and you

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Speaker 1: get it, and then you'll wake up and you're good

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Speaker 1: to go and you have a great day and then

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Speaker 1: you do it again, is that that's okay? Is it?

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Speaker 2: That's brilliant? I mean, yeah, seven eight hours sleep and

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Speaker 2: people function really well on that generally. But if you're

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Speaker 2: suddenly finding you're needing much longer sleep, then you really

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Speaker 2: need to catch up with your GP and go through

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Speaker 2: some testing. And if that's not sufficient and you're particularly

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Speaker 2: if you're a snorer, for example, then you need to

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Speaker 2: check for sleep ap near good stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's good to talk to you, Alex Alex Bartel, sleep

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Speaker 1: expert from the Sleep Well Clinic. For more from Hither

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