1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: We've got another police officer hit by a carbo so 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: we need to deal with this. This was an Huntley 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. One office has got moderate injuries. Now this 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: is just a month after, of course, the senior Sergeant 5 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: Lynn Fleming was killed tragically in a similar fashion of 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Nelson Police Minister Mark Mitchell with us on this morning. 7 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, Mike. 8 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: Uh this these two incidents, are they isolated? Do you 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: think one officer just happened to have happened close together 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: or we've got some sort of sick trend going on here. 11 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 2: Well, I hope that they are isolated and that it's 12 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: not a sick trend that we're going to see. But 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: if you look around the world, unfortunately these sort of 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: things are happening more regularly overall. You know, the type 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: of violent defending that our police and first responders have 16 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: had to deal with, we've seen growing over the years, 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 2: and we're working curiously hard in governments to try and 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: reverse it. 19 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Does it mean the line has been crossed? In other words, 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: as mad as you may be, there was a line 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: about you know, attacking police people and that now seems 22 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: to be a bit blurred. 23 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. I think that. I think that, 24 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: you know, the boundaries have changed and people are more 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: likely to get violent, whether it be verbally or physically, 26 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: not just with our police officers and first responders, but 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: with retail workers. You know, we have seen those lines blurred. 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do we need to do? Is there 29 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: a law that we can pass? It's like the King 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: hit thing out of Australia, isn't it. Is there something 31 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: specific legally we need to do? 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? So there is. We are. We've here on legislation. 33 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: Like I said, we're working on It's hard to get 34 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: it into the House as quickly as we can. Around 35 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: protection of our first responders and prison officers. There was 36 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: a bill that I picked up off Derek or when 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: he was in government last time. That was it literally 38 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: Wastection of first Responders and prison Officers bill. I couldn't 39 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: get picked that up in opposition. I couldn't get support 40 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: for that bill from the government party's Labor Greens to 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: party marriage so it didn't go through. So now we've 42 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: sort of picked that fill up. We obviously refining it, 43 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: doing some work on it. I'm working closely with Paul 44 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: Goldsmith on it, and we'll get back into the house 45 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: as quick as we. 46 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Can refined in what sense, So if I run over 47 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: a policeman and the policeman's dead, what happens to me, Well. 48 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: You're going to get So that's the we're going around 49 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: senencing and making sure that it seems a very clear 50 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: signal and it is preventative in terms of the seriousness 51 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: of the actual sentencing. So yes, there's a lot of 52 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: work done around tenencing, cumulative sentencing rather than concurrent, defining 53 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: emergency services workers, you know, and also being able to 54 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: have in the bill the ability to respond to what 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: you've identified as the changing threat levels for our frontline 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: and for our first responders. What's the timeframe on this, Well, 57 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: it's a priority, so definitely in the first quarter of 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: this year. 59 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: All right, now go well. 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