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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks ab.

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Speaker 2: Our tech commentator today is Oscar Helen. He joins me. Now,

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Speaker 2: morning Oscar.

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Speaker 3: Morning, Francesca. How's it going good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks? Hey, great chat we're going to have this morning.

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Speaker 2: Because AI is kind of taking off. It's been put

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Speaker 2: into pretty much anything and everything, and I suppose the

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Speaker 2: question is is that happening to justify just the huge

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Speaker 2: investment that companies have been making developing these tools.

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Speaker 3: Well, it certainly feels that way. I mean companies like Microsoft,

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Speaker 3: like Twitter, like you know, Meta who own Facebook and Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I mean they've been investing you know, hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 3: of millions, it's not billions of dollars into I mean

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Speaker 3: developing AI. Just running it costs a lot. And I

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Speaker 3: mean it feels like they're putting it in everything to

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Speaker 3: make it kind of make sense at the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: And you I know that you find that bit frustrating

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Speaker 2: because some of it is helpful, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: it isn't. We're not asking for it.

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Speaker 3: Well, again, it feels that way. You know, there's there's

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Speaker 3: certain things out there, certain AI I mean pieces of

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Speaker 3: software for example, that are great. But everybody knows about

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Speaker 3: chat GBT, which is a great place to go to

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Speaker 3: you know, collect ideas or ask it for recipes or

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Speaker 3: this and that and the other. But I mean, at

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Speaker 3: this point it's a personal gripe for me that it

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Speaker 3: seems like every piece of technology I own, from my

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Speaker 3: phone to my computer and my television to my television,

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Speaker 3: I should say, have got some sort of AI in it,

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Speaker 3: and I'm not enjoying it whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: Why not is it getting in the way of using

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Speaker 2: it or is it just.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it soon. I mean that's how it feels to me, Like,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's okay if I want to go and

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Speaker 3: I want to you know, if I want to go

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Speaker 3: use it. I mean, fantastic, that seems to be what

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Speaker 3: it's all about. But I mean when it just kind

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Speaker 3: of sits there and it's the buttons are always in

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Speaker 3: an inconvenient spot on you know, whatever app you're using,

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Speaker 3: or you know, you can't delete like for example, on

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Speaker 3: my Android phone, Google's just installed their AI Gemini you

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Speaker 3: can't delete it. And you know, Microsoft have got Copilot,

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Speaker 3: it's basically built into their software now. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: just kind of a thing where you don't have an

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Speaker 3: opportunity to choose to use it. It's just kind of

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Speaker 3: there and you can only really accidentally press the button,

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Speaker 3: you know, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: I suppose if it does genuinely add value, that's great.

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Speaker 2: But we're all different in how we use our tech

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Speaker 2: and devices, aren't we.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what I think, And you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to make any value statements, but I feel like

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Speaker 3: most people, you know, they want things to be a

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Speaker 3: little bit easier, they want to be more efficient. But

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Speaker 3: I mean we don't want to be I think most

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Speaker 3: people don't want to lose control of what they're doing,

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Speaker 3: especially on you know, especially online for example. I mean

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Speaker 3: with the rise of you know, cyber crime, you know,

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Speaker 3: just just being really responsible internet users, I mean putting

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Speaker 3: putting your online presence into the hands of something that

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Speaker 3: you can't control. I mean that's a scary thought. And

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Speaker 3: that's before we start talking about you know, what kind

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Speaker 3: of data and metadata these AI you know, models and

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Speaker 3: these our companies are taken from us.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Oscar, where are we in the AI revolution? I mean,

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Speaker 2: where where is am I going to be in five

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Speaker 2: or ten years?

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Speaker 3: Well, in terms of where we are in the revolution,

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, if you'd asked me that question

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Speaker 3: a year, eighteen months ago, I would have said the

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Speaker 3: World Our Oyster. I mean, it was so novel and

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Speaker 3: so fun. But I feel like where we're at currently,

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Speaker 3: the kind of excitement has really died down. And I

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Speaker 3: mean in five or ten years time. To be honest,

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Speaker 3: I don't see AI having revolutionized society. I think it's

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Speaker 3: probably just running in the background, analyzing you know, lab

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Speaker 3: results and soil samples and doing all that kind of

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Speaker 3: really high you know, just data, data investigation and stuff

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Speaker 3: like that. I don't think it's going to have any

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Speaker 3: strong consumer, any strong applications for regular consumers like you.

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Speaker 2: All right, Oscar, Really great to get your thoughts on this.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today.

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