1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: The Auckland Council voted to adopt the so called one 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: twenty plan yesterday. This intensification simple terms high rises focused 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: around public transport, replaces the idea of three three story 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: houses on a basic plot of land. Anyway, Morris Williams 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: and Auckland councilor is with us Morris morning, good morning, 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: eighteen to five? Good clear result was it tents? 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: No, Well, it actually wasn't even eighteen to five because 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 2: the key clause Clause A, which was to get rid 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: of the old plan Chain seventy eight, which had all 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: the mdrs rubbish in it, that was pretty much unanimous. 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: The problem was we were being offered two choices. One 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: was ghastly and one was not quite so ghastly. And 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: it's been driven by the problem of the government or 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: insisting on planning to two million houses. Now they openly 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: say that, well, first of all, you've got to find 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: ou where they come with that number. And it turns 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: out if you took every plot of land and orcland 18 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: and multiplied by the three by three that is three 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: dwelling at three buildings with three stories on it, you'd 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: get to the two million. Now they're saying for the 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: next thirty year is we're going to need about another 22 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: two hundred and forty one thousand homes in Auckland turn 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: forty one thousand, and yet the plan is to build 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: a two million. Why is the two million important? The 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: higher you set that number, the more you drive intensification 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: right down into the suburbs. I'm a big fan of 27 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: building intensely along the rail corridors and the busways and 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: even things like the packering a highway and round the 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: town centers. All of that stuff I'm fine with. But 30 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: to go into sort of suburban streets and force one 31 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: ghastly piece of junk with no car parks, everyone's parking 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: in the street and so on, devalue everyone else's property 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: when it's not needed, didn't make sense. And I just 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: the government's lost the plot on it. 35 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: In my dear Yeah, And is there a resentment within 36 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: the council that you've been told what to do from Wellington? 37 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: There has to be, because you know, this should have 38 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: been a lot more of consultation, but a lot more 39 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: of negotiating around what that upper figure would be. If 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: we were working to a one point five million, you'd 41 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: still get all of what we're looking for in terms 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: of the rail corridors and around the rail stations and 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: so on, which I think is all perfectly sensible. But 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: you'd get rid of all of the three story three 45 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: dwellings on a parcel of land because it wouldn't be 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: necessary if you were working to a more realistic upper 47 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: limit the government. Still, i'd love you one day when 48 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: you've got a minister and say, how did you come 49 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: up with a two million? Where did that come? 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: Well, I'll ask Bishop next time he's on it's bushop 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: the menis is he the person that had the manage? 52 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: If he could give you a reasonable answer for where 53 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: the two million come from, I'd be really surprised because 54 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: I can't get one from anyone. 55 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: All right, So now we go to consultation and that 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: takes I mean, I think I'll be retired by the 57 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: time anything actually gets built. But there you go. Marris 58 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Williamson out of the Auckland Council this morning. 59 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 60 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 61 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.