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Speaker 1: Digging through the spinths to find the real story. Egoring.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather duplessy Eland Drive with one New Zealand, let's

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Speaker 2: get connected News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Nikola Willis has

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Speaker 3: just announced she's going to throw millions more towards subsidizing films.

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Speaker 3: She's with us after five to explain cruisers coming to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand are way down big time. This is against

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Speaker 3: the international trends. So we're gonna find out why, and

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Speaker 3: we're going to chat to Auckland FC's head coach about

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Speaker 3: their first playoff game next week and can they take

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Speaker 3: the whole Competition's Heather duplessy Ella. Hey, Look, I just

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Speaker 3: want to be clear. I don't want to start a

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Speaker 3: disagreement between shows here on Newstalk ZEDB. But I did

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Speaker 3: listen to Mike Hosking this morning talking some smack and

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Speaker 3: I felt listening to I felt, no, I'm gonna have

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Speaker 3: to say something about this, just to restore a bit

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Speaker 3: of balance to this debate. In defense of instant coffee,

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Speaker 3: the stuff is great. I love it. I drink it

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Speaker 3: nearly every day. Little flat white in the morning, little

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Speaker 3: old school instant in the afternoon. I am I would

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Speaker 3: like to point out squealy in the demographic that should

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Speaker 3: be snobby about coffee, right, it should be like fresh

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Speaker 3: beans from Rwanda every day, grew up on the cafe culture,

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Speaker 3: live in ponds and bee have some of the best

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Speaker 3: cafes in the country around the corner. But I still

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Speaker 3: wrote by instant.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be like super unfair on Mike

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Speaker 3: because obviously he's a legend, but he does some girl

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Speaker 3: math when he wants to Instant coffee is not more

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Speaker 3: expensive than your ground beans. I mean, if you look

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Speaker 3: at it on the face of what you're paying at

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Speaker 3: the supermarket, yep. Sure, your classic Macona at twelve dollars

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Speaker 3: for one hundred grams does appear to be more expensive

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Speaker 3: than you Havana five star coffee beans at ten dollars

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Speaker 3: fifty for two hundred grams, because obviously getting two hundred

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Speaker 3: grams of the beans as to as opposed to one

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Speaker 3: hundred grams of the instant. So you know you're paying

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Speaker 3: for twice as many beans for roughly the same price.

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Speaker 3: But you and I know that's not how it works.

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Speaker 3: You and I know that you're getting more cups of

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Speaker 3: coffee out of that little macona jar. Because you're only

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Speaker 3: using one teaspoon at a time. You're using the beans,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have to fill up that whole double shop

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Speaker 3: filter basket, and so you're gonna whip through that two

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Speaker 3: hundred grams a whole lot faster. But the thing about

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Speaker 3: it is, obviously, you know, it's not just like I

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Speaker 3: live in Poulsenbee, Okay, It's not just about price. Canna

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Speaker 3: afford to go and buy myself a nice little flat white.

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Speaker 3: It's about the fact that it tastes good. It tastes

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Speaker 3: instant coffee, tastes good in its own special watery mudway,

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Speaker 3: do you know what I mean. It's got its place

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Speaker 3: in life. I don't think we need to discount it.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like you can enjoy yourself a craft beer,

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Speaker 3: but then you can also want a dirty old corona

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Speaker 3: from time to time, or you can you can make

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Speaker 3: a virtue out of eating your vogels and getting all

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Speaker 3: that fiber going through your gap. But there's sometimes you

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Speaker 3: just want a nice white slice with your snag, you

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Speaker 3: everyone wants to drink an espresso at three in the

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Speaker 3: afternoon and be pinging at eleven at night. Still that's

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Speaker 3: the place of the instant coffee. You have that at

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Speaker 3: three and you just got a little light, little buzz

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Speaker 3: until seven, sleep like a baby after that. And finally,

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Speaker 3: just the final point on this is it turns out

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Speaker 3: more of us actually drink the insane than the espresso.

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Speaker 3: This may shock you because we were the land of

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Speaker 3: the flat white, but we are also the land that

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Speaker 3: invented the instant coffee in Southland. And the last survey

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Speaker 3: instant and only thirty four percent of us drink the espresso.

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Speaker 3: And as Mike likes to say, numbers don't lie either.

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Speaker 1: Duper c Allen nine.

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Speaker 3: Two nine two. Now Walworths well, speaking of the supermarkets.

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Speaker 3: Woolworths has hit back over claims that supermarkets are charging

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Speaker 3: us too much, instead blaming the government for it. Now

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Speaker 3: they've released a paper today and they say it's the

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Speaker 3: GST on the groceries that make our groceries more expensive

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Speaker 3: than over in Australia and the UK, and our Peter

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Speaker 3: de Wet is the INTROM managing director of Allworst New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Peter.

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Speaker 3: Hello, hi there. Okay, So if you take the gst

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Speaker 3: off and the comparable taxes around the world, are we cheaper?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely? In the comparison we've done, which is to a

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Speaker 3: What are you You're not just choosing things that are

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Speaker 3: going to make it like You're not You're not gerrymandering

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not. So we used the Choice shopping basket and

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Speaker 5: to give you a sense of what it did, all

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Speaker 5: the core core basics things like milk, apples, carrots, mint, wheat, pigs, butter, toothbaste, shampoo,

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Speaker 3: How do we end up cheaper that like that? Well,

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Speaker 3: this is going to confound anybody who's ever done any

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Speaker 5: I think the reality there is.

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Speaker 5: You know, this is a comparison, but customers feel the

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Speaker 5: pinch of having paid a lot more for the groceries

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Speaker 5: globally over the last number of years. It's not only

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Speaker 5: a New Zealand problem. So I think the reality is

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Speaker 5: if you if you go and shop, it feels expensive.

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Speaker 5: That's just the reality of it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So is it a case of us having higher

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Speaker 3: comparing us to us to having exemptions on their groceries.

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Speaker 5: Well, the reality is they've got they've got a different

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Speaker 5: the reason we're pointing it out is not to say

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Speaker 5: pointing it out is because often we see comparisons out

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Speaker 5: to compare apples of apples.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are the exemptions they have got that

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Speaker 5: So in both these countries. I'm not going to talk

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Speaker 3: Okay, you've also made the point that if the government

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Speaker 5: Sure, so I think that you know from what we've

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Speaker 5: we've got it. There's two big challenges in New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: scale is really important. So if you take the existing

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now, when I saw this this morning, Peter, my

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Speaker 3: first thought was that you guys are firing a warning

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Speaker 5: Is that what you're doing, That's definitely not what we're

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Speaker 5: doing either.

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Speaker 5: The reality of it is we want the same thing

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Speaker 5: bring prices down. What we do want to make sure, though,

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Speaker 5: really constructive process to date, is that we share factual

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean to be fair, Peter, if you

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Speaker 3: have shared information with the government. You've chosen to share

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've shared it with the government first though, and

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Speaker 3: Peter, as always, it's really good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your time. Mate. That's Peter Dewett will

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Speaker 3: worst New Zealand into a managing director. Ah, now you

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Speaker 3: being honest about today. Now that you've been given the

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Speaker 3: Hither I totally agree. My morning coffee is a long black,

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Speaker 3: But in the afternoon I have instant Oh, Kate, you

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Speaker 3: Just you just working that little routine on your salfe,

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Speaker 3: just getting yourself through the day with your little first

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Speaker 3: bump of illegal high. Heather, nothing like a Jed's number

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Speaker 3: three to get me going in the morning, Craig, I'll

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Speaker 3: ask Anne, Marie. I'll ask one of the office ladies

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Speaker 3: to get us a Jed's number three, or see if

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Speaker 3: I like that one too. Quarter past.

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Speaker 3: It's eighteen past four and Jason Pine Weekend Sports hosters

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Speaker 6: Hey, poney, hey Heather, you just got me having my macona?

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Speaker 3: Are you having a macona?

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 6: I pretty much drink instant coffee al most exclusively. I

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Speaker 6: like to buy one when i'm ount about, but instant

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Speaker 6: for me, mate, Macona.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because you're from Pori, Vegas, aren't you.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure what you're implying.

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Speaker 3: Well, you keep it real and don't you.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I see what you mean. Yes week so well

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Speaker 6: were you.

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Speaker 3: And Tawer Heights Now I can't remember? No, no, no, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I mean, but you go into Wellington like this is

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Speaker 3: like sacrela jay. You can't talk about it. Like when

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Speaker 6: We'll turn their backs. They will turn their backs.

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Speaker 3: Pony, listen, what do you reckon? The worries you reckon?

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Speaker 3: They can keep this run going against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 6: I think so. Yeah, four in a row. I think

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Speaker 2: Aw, it's Heather duper Sel and drive with one New

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Speaker 3: That'd be do you know what in all of the

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Speaker 9: Chris say a lot of things, but he's a sausage

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Speaker 3: What color do you think this is?

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Speaker 3: It's a subtle pink Okay? I like my pink subtle,

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Speaker 2: The world wires on youth talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: And Finally, a British swimmer is attempting a twelve day

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Speaker 2: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 8: That shark is thinking how sweet fresh meat.

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Speaker 3: But then it's going to it's going to be like

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Speaker 8: kind of scale back a lot of these orders, and

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Speaker 8: none of the justices really spoke up in defense of

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Speaker 8: the order's legality. They had it hearing for about two

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Speaker 8: and a half hours today oral arguments, and several were

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Speaker 8: saying that they thought the order was almost unconstitutional. So,

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Speaker 8: I mean, this is just one of the big obviously

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Speaker 8: the big issues that President Trump has made part of

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Speaker 8: his agenda and related to immigration, and the administration is

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Speaker 8: asking the courts to address this on an emergency basis,

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Speaker 8: which is why they heard the argument.

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Speaker 3: Today they're going to block Donald Trump anti.

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Speaker 8: I would think so. At this point, we're not expecting

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Speaker 8: a decision on this case until early in the summer,

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Speaker 8: so maybe another six weeks, maybe another couple of months.

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Speaker 8: But I think what they're looking to do is saying,

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Speaker 8: at least a couple of the judges were saying, you

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Speaker 8: know what, we need a broader remedy on this. Here's

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Speaker 8: what you need to do. You need to handle these

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Speaker 8: cases as a class action lawsuit. You don't need to

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Speaker 8: do a sort of this blanket injunction that will apply

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Speaker 8: everywhere in the country. So I think they're trying to Honestly,

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Speaker 8: I think they're trying to pot it off I don't

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Speaker 8: think they're going to go ahead with this.

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Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Okay, now the Paid Diddy trials grim, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 8: They had his ex girlfriend, Cassie Ventura on the stand today.

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Speaker 8: I think this was day number three three in the trials.

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Speaker 8: So they're going to continue the cross examination tomorrow. The

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Speaker 8: judge is saying, hey, you guys got to wrap this

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Speaker 8: up for her because she's expecting to get birth anytime soon.

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Speaker 8: And basically, the defense was asking her about the relationship

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Speaker 8: with Colmes while they were dating, and they had emails

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Speaker 8: to the jury. They had messages between them. There were

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Speaker 8: some sexually graphic ones talking about this freak off which

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Speaker 8: seems to be all we're hearing about on the news

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Speaker 8: over here, which was sort of drug and fueled, you know,

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Speaker 8: whatever you want to go down there. Anyway, Combs has said,

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Speaker 8: I'm not guilty to this. I don't belong in this

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Speaker 8: racketeering conspiracy charge. There's no sex trafficking. But what's interesting

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Speaker 8: Heather's the jury also saw messages from a few years

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Speaker 8: back where she told Colmbs that she loved their quote

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Speaker 8: freakofs when they both wanted it. So the defense I

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Speaker 8: think is trying to use these and other messages to

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Speaker 8: form some kind of relationship and characterize that she was

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Speaker 8: a consulting adult and she's not a victim on this.

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Speaker 3: And how long how much long is this trial going

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Speaker 3: to run?

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Speaker 8: That's a good question. I mean, they'd like to get

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Speaker 8: her off the stand by tomorrow so she can go

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Speaker 8: and and like I said, she's expecting a baby, so

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Speaker 8: me maybe another week or so. And then after that,

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Speaker 8: who's to say how long before the jury will come

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Speaker 8: back with their decisions.

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Speaker 3: And are you, I mean, are we expecting that they're

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Speaker 3: going to be a little celebrity revelations here?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, there might be I mean, this could be.

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Speaker 8: This could be a case where I could very much

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Speaker 8: see that he is sent to prison for I mean,

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Speaker 8: who knows. I mean, he could face life in prison.

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Speaker 8: They're saying at this point, I don't think it'll come

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Speaker 8: to that, but I could certainly see him spending a

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Speaker 8: significant amount of time right now the way this case

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Speaker 8: is going by.

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Speaker 3: Bars Now, this military, this big military parade for Trump,

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Speaker 3: how much is it going to cost?

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Speaker 8: Well, it depends. Some people say on the low end,

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Speaker 8: it's a bargain. At twenty five million. Others say it's

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Speaker 8: going to go to forty five million dollars. And it's

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Speaker 8: kind of tied into the Army's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.

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Speaker 8: So they're talking about tanks, dozens of tanks on the

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Speaker 8: ground and jets in the air, and the Army had

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Speaker 8: been planning to move troops and equipment to our National

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Speaker 8: Mall in DC next month on the fourteenth as part

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Speaker 8: of the anniversary. You know, the President Trump said, hey,

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Speaker 8: you know what, it's my birthday, my seventy ninth birthday

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Speaker 8: right now. And he really likes parades. When he went

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Speaker 8: over I think it was last last No, I'm not,

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Speaker 8: I'm kidding. When he went to France last year, he

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Speaker 8: saw the parades and the trooping that was going on

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Speaker 8: over there, and he really came back with this thing,

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Speaker 8: is like, we've got to do something like this over here.

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Speaker 3: He's going to inper a complex. Look at him. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's like houses a foot we had Emperor type decorations.

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Speaker 8: He he does, and honestlyhether, we haven't had a parade

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Speaker 8: like this since the early nineties when they had all

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Speaker 8: these troops and tanks going through Washington celebrating the ousting

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Speaker 8: of President Sodom Hussein and the Iraqi forces from Kuwait.

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Speaker 8: That was the last time we had anything remotely like this,

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Speaker 8: and it certainly didn't cost, you know, forty forty five

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Speaker 8: to fifty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Hey, did you decide to book your Christopher Cross and

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Speaker 3: Toto tickets? Because I was raving about it.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 8: I just got them yesterday. I'm going to see Toto,

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Speaker 8: Christopher Cross and men at work in August. I can't

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Speaker 8: wait for that. And I decided to go for it

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Speaker 8: after your recommendation.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. But we and we differ on with the

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Speaker 3: Toto of Solace. I think the Solace but still won.

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Speaker 3: But you go and have a listen to them and

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Speaker 3: then we'll talk about it in August.

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Speaker 8: A came okay, sounds good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan, as always, Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent. By

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Speaker 3: the way, Justin Bieber has broken his silence on this

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Speaker 3: P did de business.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been following. This is pretty

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Speaker 3: sordid stuff, but there were rumors on the internet that

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Speaker 3: Justin Bieber had been one of P did He's alleged victims.

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Speaker 3: Justin Bieber's reps have put out a statement saying Justin

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Speaker 3: wasn't targeted by the rapper. Although Justin is not amongst

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Speaker 3: Sean Combs as victims, there are individuals who were genuinely

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Speaker 3: harmed by him, says the statement. Shifting focus away from

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Speaker 3: this reality detracts from the justice that these victims rightfully deserve,

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Speaker 3: So we can put that one to rest. Heather. It's

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Speaker 3: not about the boats not wanting to come to Milford.

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Speaker 3: It's about them not wanting to pay to clean their

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Speaker 3: boat holes before they enter our waters. One of the

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Speaker 3: cruise liners pulled all their cruises because of the costs,

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Speaker 3: and the cruisers are very cross about this, SUSI will

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Speaker 3: we'll have a chat to the cruise association figure out

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Speaker 3: if that is the case. Seventeen Away from five.

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Speaker 2: Politics with centrics Credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Jason Wall's leaders is with us nowI Jason.

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Speaker 13: Good afternoon and happy Friday.

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Speaker 3: It's been a week, hasn't it.

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Speaker 13: Hap It's been a week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, listen, So what do you make of this

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Speaker 3: money that we're throwing at the film subsidies.

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Speaker 14: It's an interesting one, isn't it, Because it is quite

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Speaker 14: a large sum of money five hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 14: million dollars over four years, taking the total sum to

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Speaker 14: just over a billion dollars. So this is where eligible

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Speaker 14: productions can access about twenty They can access twenty percent

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Speaker 14: of a cash rebate on production expenditure when that production

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Speaker 14: costs more than fifteen million dollars for feature films, and

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Speaker 14: it's four million dollars when it's TV productions. If it

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Speaker 14: costs over thirty mili, chuck another five percent on there,

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Speaker 14: says the government.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 14: Willis argues that this scheme has been very has been

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Speaker 14: very successful in the past. Inbound productions invested nearly seven

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Speaker 14: point five billion dollars in New Zealand over the past

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Speaker 14: ten years, she said, supported by one point five billion

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Speaker 14: through these rebates. So she argues that's a pretty good payoff.

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Speaker 14: And she says that you know, ten long large international

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Speaker 14: productions have come to New Zealand after twenty twenty three

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty three review of this scheme. These include, for example,

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Speaker 14: the Minecraft movie, which I know you as the mother

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Speaker 14: of a toddler has probably gone to see three or

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Speaker 14: four times now. So Nicholas actually sat up front that

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Speaker 14: she's not really a fan of governments essentially shelling out

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Speaker 14: to big businesses.

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Speaker 15: I'm going to be candid with you. Generally I'm not

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Speaker 15: a big fan of industry incentives, but the reality for

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Speaker 15: this sector is that we simply won't get offshore investment

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Speaker 15: without continuing the rebate scheme.

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Speaker 14: Now, despite this, the Taxpairs Union says, this is just

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Speaker 14: another dose of corporate welfare at a time when the

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Speaker 14: public services are under pressure and the nation's books are

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Speaker 14: deep in the red. Now, I was while we were

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Speaker 14: at this stack, so it was it was in sort

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Speaker 14: of the wetter area of Mirima this morning, and it

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Speaker 14: was in a big film studio, and I was looking

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Speaker 14: around thinking, didn't David Seymour have a real big problem

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Speaker 14: with these sorts.

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Speaker 13: Of things when he was in opposition and.

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Speaker 14: He's been relatively quiet to So I asked Nikola Willis,

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Speaker 14: you know, how did you get libertarian David Seymour and

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Speaker 14: the act MP's on board with this look.

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Speaker 15: I've persuaded him and the same way that I presented

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Speaker 15: the case to you, which is, how can we be

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Speaker 15: a government for economic growth if we allow a major

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Speaker 15: industry to die? And you know what, I'm very persuasive

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Speaker 15: with my cabinet colleagues from time to ty.

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Speaker 14: So you know, I'm sure there's more to it than that,

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Speaker 14: but apparently she got him over the line with her

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Speaker 14: good persuasion skills.

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Speaker 3: Now we're actually talking to David Cmore at ten person,

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Speaker 3: I might ask him a little bit about that. Look,

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Speaker 3: this business with the ACC minister flagging that ACC might

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Speaker 3: not be the right outfit for people who want compo

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Speaker 3: for sexual abuse suggests to me that he's softening us

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Speaker 3: up for exactly that they're not going to accept this claim,

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Speaker 3: are they.

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Speaker 13: Well, I don't know how to read this.

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Speaker 14: There's not a ton of detail in the story from

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Speaker 14: the post. I mean, there's a good story in terms

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Speaker 14: of getting Scott Simpson's thoughts on this, but you know,

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Speaker 14: this is it comes down to this. There's judgment in

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Speaker 14: twenty twenty three called the Tea case where the Court

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Speaker 14: of Appeal ruled that sexual abuse survivors were entitled to

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Speaker 14: compensation for the loss of potential earnings from the time

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Speaker 14: that they were from the time when they were abused,

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Speaker 14: and ACC advised that this was expected to cost them

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Speaker 14: three point six billion dollars and that's the liability on

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Speaker 14: their book. But Scott Simpson told the Post that this

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Speaker 14: was a live and current question, whereas where the government

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Speaker 14: might make changes that meant the claims that arose from

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Speaker 14: this appeal ruling weren't funded through a CC quote when

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Speaker 14: the scheme was originally set up, the foundational setting up

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Speaker 14: of ACC, I don't think they contemplated an outcome of

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Speaker 14: this sort. Reflected by the judicial outcome in this case,

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Speaker 14: perhaps we need to have a conversation as a nation

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Speaker 14: about what the best vehicle to provide that care, support

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Speaker 14: and assistance is and whether that's ACC. So it kind

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Speaker 14: of almost sounds to me as if he's looking to

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Speaker 14: shift this liability.

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Speaker 13: To another section of government.

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Speaker 14: And at the end of the day, you know this

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Speaker 14: is Nicola Willis created an entirely new way of measuring

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Speaker 14: government surplus and deficits because of the large deficit that

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Speaker 14: ACC had because of this case. You'll remember she called

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Speaker 14: that oubigail X. It sounded like some sort of Tesla remake.

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Speaker 14: But it really remains unclear as to how this is

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Speaker 14: going to be, where this money is going to go.

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Speaker 13: Who's going to have this liability?

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Speaker 14: We asked Nikola Willis about it today. She was giving

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Speaker 14: us practically nothing.

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Speaker 15: As I said, Kebnet needs to consider that matter as

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Speaker 15: you'll have to put the question to the Minister for ACC.

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Speaker 15: But that is a measure for Kebnet to consider it.

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Speaker 14: So it remains to be seen what actually happens here,

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Speaker 14: because it's a head scratcher for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean it sounds like because with ACC, it's very clear, right,

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Speaker 3: ACC is a delivery vehicle for basically paying your money, right,

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Speaker 3: but another agency may deal with the differently, like they

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Speaker 3: may just provide you with some counseling or something like

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Speaker 3: that and may bring the cost down quite a lot.

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Speaker 3: So perhaps that's the I mean, that's obviously the thinking here, right,

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Speaker 3: is to try and get rid of some of this cost,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean, it was ACC the right vehicle in

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Speaker 14: the first place to be the ones handling this and

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Speaker 14: I hate to use the word, but it is this liability.

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Speaker 14: So I mean, you're absolutely right. It could be somewhere

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Speaker 14: else within government that's better handled and better suited to this.

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Speaker 14: So it's not a bad idea, But the money's not

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Speaker 14: going to go away. The government still will owe the

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Speaker 14: people because of this judgment.

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Speaker 3: Are you sure?

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 3: I mean, because I reckon not I reckon, you shift it,

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Speaker 3: you take it to another agency, and then it's different.

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Speaker 14: So I if the government thought they got bad pushback

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Speaker 14: from the pay equity issue, imagine the pushback they would

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Speaker 14: get if they tried to wiggle out of a judgment

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Speaker 14: like this.

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Speaker 13: I mean, there would be the end.

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Speaker 3: Of them maybe, But they've softened us up so it

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Speaker 3: wouldn't be as much of a shock. Jason, I really

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Speaker 3: appreciate it. We'll talk to you later. We'll reap the

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Speaker 3: political week that was at about quarter pass likes that

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Speaker 3: Jason Wall's political editor eight away from five putting.

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Speaker 2: The tough questions to the newsmakers the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 16: Winston Peters as well. It's got a view on Jerry

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Speaker 16: brown Lean's reaction to that ruling from the Privilegus Committee, And.

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Speaker 9: Yes I do, but it's not vice for me to

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Speaker 9: express it on this program. I continued to do, Suddenly

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Speaker 9: a bad life, don't mind. I don't want to talk

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Speaker 9: about it on this program. Fair enough for this way

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Speaker 9: at the Select Committee, and a very truncated process because

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Speaker 9: they wouldn't turn up. Of course, enormous de days has

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Speaker 9: come to a decision that's for the House to endorse

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Speaker 9: it otherwise. And this idea of hours and hours and

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Speaker 9: days and days and weeks everyone having a chance of

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Speaker 9: talking more than once and move a memos is in

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Speaker 9: my view plainly role that's a part.

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Speaker 16: I want to go back tomorrow at six am the

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Speaker 16: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Babies, Real Estate News Talks z be.

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Speaker 1: Look.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be accused of calling Fergie nutty,

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Speaker 3: but Fergie is nutty. So the latest is that Hergie,

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Speaker 3: Fergie and Andrew have inherited the late Queen's corgies, and

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Speaker 3: Fergie has given has given her thoughts on this, and

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Speaker 3: she reckons Queen Elizabeth is still speaking to her via

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Speaker 3: the dogs. So she said, by the way, she's speaking

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Speaker 3: to the Creative Women Platform forum in London. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why I'm telling you that, just so that you

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Speaker 3: know that there were serious people in the room. By

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Speaker 3: the looks of things, all just a lot of women.

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Speaker 3: Who knows. And she said, I have her dogs. I

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Speaker 3: have her corgies. Every morning they come in and go whaff,

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Speaker 3: whiff and all that. And I'm sure it's her talking

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Speaker 3: to me. I'm sure it is her reminding me she's

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Speaker 3: still around now. Just in case you think, oh, look,

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Speaker 3: it was an unguarded moment and she probably just ran

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Speaker 3: out of things to say, just you know, over talked.

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Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent certain that she said this

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Speaker 3: last year as well. I am one. I can't I

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Speaker 3: don't have the time to google it. Also, I don't

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Speaker 3: want to fill my Google history with this kind of nonsense.

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Speaker 3: But I am one hundred percent certain that Fergie said

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Speaker 3: this last time and didn't get enough attention, and so

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Speaker 3: she said it again and it's all over the news.

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Speaker 3: Me how mental is that? And like they're really quite

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Speaker 3: quite weird sometimes, aren't they. Listen, Matthew Houston, I just

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Speaker 3: want to draw this to your attention. Matthew Housian's made

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Speaker 3: an excellent point in his column today, which is, let

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Speaker 3: is read the Mary parting. If the Marty Party really

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Speaker 3: believed that Ewie Mary never seated sovereignty with a Treaty

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Speaker 3: of White Tonguey and that Parliament has absolutely no say

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Speaker 3: over Mary, then they need to behave like shin Fein,

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Speaker 3: because shin Fain believes the same thing about the king

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Speaker 3: in Northern Ireland. Right, they reckon that the king has

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Speaker 3: no jurisdiction and then if they do believe the same

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Speaker 3: thing as shin Fain, then they should behave like shin Fain,

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Speaker 3: and they should refuse to participate in parliament, refuse to

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Speaker 3: swear allegiance to the king, and refuse to take the

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Speaker 3: king's pay and perks, because that is what the MP's

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Speaker 3: in Shinfein do. They get elected, but they don't turn up,

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Speaker 3: they don't get paid, they don't do any of that stuff.

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Speaker 3: And if they do that, then we can take the

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Speaker 3: Maori Party seriously because they are acting seriously on principle.

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Speaker 3: But if they keep on turning up like they are

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Speaker 3: and taking the money and taking the flights and taking

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Speaker 3: the accommodation supplement and all the nice things that they

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Speaker 3: have because they're in peace, but then acting like they do,

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Speaker 3: then we can see them for what they are, which

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Speaker 3: is this is not about principle at all. This is

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Speaker 3: just about being unruly, isn't it, and drawing some attention

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Speaker 3: to yourself. I think Matthew makes an excellent point in

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Speaker 3: the Herald today. It's worth going and reading that column.

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Speaker 3: Nikolauillis is going to be with us straight after the

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Speaker 3: news talk through the film Subsidy and this little accusation

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Speaker 3: that the reason that we're paying so much for groceries

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Speaker 3: is actually not because of the supermarkets policing us, because

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Speaker 3: of her GST news talks. They'd be.

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Speaker 2: Questions, answers, facts, analysis, the Drive show you trust for

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Speaker 2: the full picture, Heather Dupers on Drive with One New

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Speaker 2: Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 1: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. Now we have been told that the budget is

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Speaker 3: not a lolly scramble, but the film industry is getting

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Speaker 3: six hundred million dollars worth of lollies in the form

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Speaker 3: of subsidies. The rules stay unchanged. Eligible productions can get

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Speaker 3: a rebate of up to twenty five percent of production costs,

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Speaker 3: and the Finance Minister, Nicola Willis is with us. Hey, Nicola,

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Speaker 3: Hi header Now that sounds really cynical, but the truth

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Speaker 3: is we we actually don't have an option as a country,

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Speaker 3: do we.

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Speaker 17: We don't.

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Speaker 15: If we don't do this rebate, then our film industry

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Speaker 15: will pack up its bags and leave overnight. And that's

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Speaker 15: because around the world there's about one hundred countries who

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Speaker 15: do different rebate schemes. Australia, the UK, all of the

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Speaker 15: countries we're competing with and it's your ticket to the game.

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Speaker 15: If you don't do the rebate, people won't even think

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Speaker 15: about filming here. With the rebate, we can then say, well,

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Speaker 15: we're the best place to come to because we've got

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Speaker 15: the best landscapes, the best post production, the best digital effects.

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Speaker 15: Our rebate's actually at the lower end of the scale internationally,

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Speaker 15: but because of all of those other factors, it keeps

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Speaker 15: it going and it supports jobs, it supports growth. We

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Speaker 15: get income tax and return, so it works for New

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Speaker 15: Zealand's economy apparently.

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Speaker 3: Is it true that they've taken about a billion dollars

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Speaker 3: in subsidies just in the last five years, I mean,

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Speaker 3: is that worth it?

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Speaker 15: In the past ten years, they've taken one and a

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Speaker 15: half billion dollars worth of rebate, But in return, New

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Speaker 15: Zealand has got seven and a half billion dollars worth

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Speaker 15: of an investment from that industry, and that has meant

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Speaker 15: that there's been money spent in the economy, there's been

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Speaker 15: people that have been hard jobs that have been created,

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Speaker 15: tax paid by those people in those jobs, and these

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Speaker 15: are highly paid jobs, highly skilled and it leads to

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Speaker 15: really great development. So all in all, it's one of

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Speaker 15: those things I'm not a big fan of subsidies. I'm

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Speaker 15: not a fan of industry incentives, but with this one,

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Speaker 15: I can't keep a straight face and say I care

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Speaker 15: about the growth of the New Zealand economy and then

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Speaker 15: kill an industry.

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Speaker 17: That wouldn't be right. So we're making sure the funding's there,

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Speaker 17: just really quickly.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit technical, but I see you're bumping up

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Speaker 3: the amount that is allocated for this financial year, the

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Speaker 3: one that we're in. Is that because it's oversubscribed.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's because there have been a number of productions

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Speaker 15: which will be applying for rebates that apply to this year.

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Speaker 15: So we're making sure the funding's there. Part of this

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Speaker 15: is a story about fiscal cliffs and all of that

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Speaker 15: sort of thing, which is traditionally this has only been

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Speaker 15: funded just in time, and we're making sure there's enough

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Speaker 15: money in the baseline for future years so that the

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Speaker 15: industry can have certain and confidence this scheme is around

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Speaker 15: to stay. Come to New Zealand to make your movies.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hey, did you see Wilworth's is blaming GST for

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Speaker 3: the grocery prices in this country.

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Speaker 15: Well, I think that's a bit rich. I mean, seriously,

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Speaker 15: they have every opportunity to lower their prices, they choose

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Speaker 15: not to because it's not very competitive. And my view

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Speaker 15: is yep. The government has some things it does. It

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Speaker 15: needs to keep inflation under control, it needs to keep

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Speaker 15: other costs down where it can. But Willworths has a

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Speaker 15: big job to do and trying to deflect like that

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Speaker 15: is very disappointing.

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Speaker 3: Nichola, thanks very much for you time, Nichola Willis Finance

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Speaker 3: Minister and Economic Growth Minister.

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Speaker 1: Ever do for c Allen.

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Speaker 3: The White Tongy Tribunal has just released its urgent report

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Speaker 3: into the Regulatory Standards Bill. It wants this bill thrown

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Speaker 3: out until more marty consultation has done. It's supposed to

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Speaker 3: be introduced to the House on Monday. David Seymour is

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Speaker 3: the author of the bill and with us now, hey, David, hey,

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Speaker 3: is this bill the threat that these guys think it is?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 18: The White Only Tribunal has every right to do what

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Speaker 18: it would like to do. It's subject to a review

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Speaker 18: by this governance and I'm say anything more about that.

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Speaker 18: What I will say is that they've made two basic

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Speaker 18: claims in their report. One is that the Regulatory Standards

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Speaker 18: Bill was not properly consulted with Maori. And two is

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Speaker 18: that promoting the quality before the law is somehow bad

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Speaker 18: from New Zealand. On the first one, it's actually untrue.

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Speaker 18: There were twenty three thousand submissions on the bill, one

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Speaker 18: hundred and fourteen of them from ey organizations. So first

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Speaker 18: of all there was consultation with Mary. But second of all,

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Speaker 18: this legislation in some form has been debated for twenty years.

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Speaker 18: The idea that we as a government are obliged to

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Speaker 18: be more accountable to some of our cimisms than others

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Speaker 18: because of their race is anathema to me. The second

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Speaker 18: objection is because the regulatory standard SPILL actually requires politicians

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Speaker 18: to explain if and why discriminating against people based on

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Speaker 18: their race, and actually be held accountable for that, so

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Speaker 18: the voters can make up their mind they think that's

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Speaker 18: a bad thing. I think the rule of war and

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Speaker 18: equals before the law is a good thing. And if

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Speaker 18: there's people who are disadvantaged, we can help them on need,

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Speaker 18: not race. We don't need to discriminate by that race.

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Speaker 3: What did Nichola Willa say to you to make you

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Speaker 3: come around to the idea of film subsidies?

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Speaker 18: Nothing at all. We believe that film subsidies is something

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Speaker 18: that we need a solution to that doesn't involve shutting

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Speaker 18: down the industry. Now there's no new money that is

871
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 18: simply continuing what's already been done. If there was a

872
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 18: way to get the other countries around the world to

873
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 18: call the film industry's bluff so that we didn't all

874
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 18: have to subsidize them, that would be great. Nonetheless, the

875
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Speaker 18: policy continues. Maybe one day when we have a government

876
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 18: that reaches out to others and shuts this kind of

877
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 18: subsidence for billionaires down, will be in a better play.

878
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 18: So our position hasn't changed. We just don't have a

879
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 18: government that's ready to do the necessary thing to stop

880
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 18: the subsidies.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant, David, it's good to talk to you. Thank you,

882
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: David Seymour As Party leader, Heaver do for c ellens. Now, look,

883
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: I'm just warning you this is a PSA. It's public

884
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 3: service announcement. But the sea bomb debate might get another

885
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: run because we've got the Voyager Awards tonight. Now, the

886
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 3: Voyager Awards are the I think it isn't for the

887
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: TV people as well. Yeah, it's for the print and

888
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: the TV people. It's a weird marriage, isn't it. Radio

889
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 3: people do their own awards, but then the print people

890
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 3: and the TV people do awards together. But whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever,

891
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 3: never mind, this is how it is. But the Voyager

892
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: Awards tonight, Andrea Vance nominated Political Journalist of the Year.

893
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 3: She's up against Guy and Espiner, and she's up against

894
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Speaker 3: Jamie Ensaw of The Herald and enz Mey and formerly

895
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Speaker 3: news Hub and Warner Brothers. And I'm looking at that

896
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 3: and I'm thinking that's a bit of competition from Guy.

897
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Speaker 3: But I'm going to put my money on Andrea. And

898
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Speaker 3: so I'm going to place a bit with you right

899
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Speaker 3: now that Andrea is going to win, and then it's

900
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Speaker 3: going to be like wh who for the one who

901
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Speaker 3: dropped the sea bomb? Shropped the sea bomb and then

902
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Speaker 3: we awarded her with an award. Look, if she wins,

903
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: it's because she deserves I've said it. I said it

904
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: on the show on Monday. Very good at what she does,

905
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: very incisive, great journalist. But yeah, wait for it. You

906
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 3: might wake up tomorrow with another run of it fourteen

907
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Speaker 3: past five. Hey, now, you do not need me to

908
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Speaker 3: tell you that it's a tough time to be in business.

909
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 3: The buzzword right now is efficiency. In chatting to One

910
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 3: New Zealand, they reckon the business is making. The biggest

911
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 3: strides are doubling down on mobility. Now, I know what

912
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 3: you're asking. What's mobility. Well, it's more than just mobile plans.

913
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 3: It's about smart tools and simple tech that will help

914
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Speaker 3: you to do better business in more places. It's endless data,

915
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Speaker 3: great devices, smart security, all connected on a trusted mobile network.

916
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Speaker 3: So working on the go is as easy as sitting

917
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Speaker 3: in the office. And the secret is to make it

918
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Speaker 3: effortless because great things happen when business gets connected, sharing knowledge,

919
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Speaker 3: solving problems, stepping up for customers wherever you need them

920
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Speaker 3: to be. So if you need a smart way to

921
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Speaker 3: deliver more, talk to One New Zealand or go to

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Speaker 3: one dot MZ forward slash mobility today, get your experts

923
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: connected with theirs and do better business in more places.

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Speaker 1: Heather Do for ZL seventeen past five.

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Speaker 3: Now it looks like we've got a problem with cruise

926
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Speaker 3: ship sailings. New numbers out today show that a lot

927
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: of the ships are choosing to give New Zealand a

928
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: bit of a miss. Overall, there's going to be twenty

929
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Speaker 3: eight percent. Few report visits nationwide in the upcoming year.

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Speaker 3: Jackie Lloyd is New Zealand Cruise Association CEO and is

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Speaker 3: with us now, Hey Jackie, Hi, how are you very well?

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

933
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: What's the problem?

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Speaker 1: Ah?

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Speaker 19: A number of things really, This has been on the

936
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Speaker 19: cards for a number of years, which we've been making

937
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Speaker 19: quite a bit of a noise about. There's four main

938
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Speaker 19: reasons for the change. One of them is the changes

939
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 19: of regulations mid season, so cruise lines book and lock

940
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 19: in their deployment eighteen months to two years in advance.

941
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Speaker 19: They sell their passages to passengers so they can get

942
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Speaker 19: on board and travel in New Zealand. The last few

943
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Speaker 19: years has been regulation change and cost increases in New

944
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Speaker 19: Zealand that have been made within that booking window, and

945
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Speaker 19: in that case is nowhere for the crew lines to

946
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Speaker 19: pass those costs on passengers and that comes directly off

947
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Speaker 19: their bottom line. Addition to that is that we are

948
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Speaker 19: a very expensive destination. Our costs are very high and

949
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Speaker 19: have got higher, and at this time of year I

950
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Speaker 19: get well in the world these days, with a number

951
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Speaker 19: of other increases in costs around fuel and so on,

952
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Speaker 19: New Zealand is really we've priced ourselves almost out of

953
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Speaker 19: the market. We are one of the most expensive destinations

954
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Speaker 19: that crew lines visit. In the past, you know, we

955
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Speaker 19: have always been expensive and the passenger ratings and satisfaction

956
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 19: have outweighed that cost. But given the current economic climate,

957
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Speaker 19: the balances tip the other way and we really are expensive.

958
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Speaker 19: The third one is biofoiling risk, so that is cruise

959
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Speaker 19: ships cleaning their cleaning their hulls and there and their

960
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Speaker 19: undersides to make sure that they're clean and tiety and

961
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Speaker 19: they do wish to do so absolutely and keep New

962
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Speaker 19: Zealand waters clean, but there is also always an overhanging

963
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Speaker 19: risk that they might be denied entry at the border.

964
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Speaker 19: And you've got a full payload of passengers on board

965
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Speaker 19: expecting to be in New Zealand and being denied as

966
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Speaker 19: really unacceptable from a financial and a brand reci point

967
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 19: of view. And we've lost lines like Koonad, you know,

968
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Speaker 19: the beautiful Queen Anne's, Victoria's Mary. They're not visiting New

969
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 19: Zealand these coming seasons. So all those things together have

970
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 19: really created a negative perception from cruiseline executives. I'm sure

971
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Speaker 19: they think New Zealand's unwelcoming that we're not wanting cruise

972
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Speaker 19: and they're reflecting that in their deployment decisions for the

973
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Speaker 19: next couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Jackie, Wow, just so much great information. Thank you so much.

975
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it, Jackie Lloyd, New Zealand Cruise Association CEO.

976
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: There are two ports in this country that are getting

977
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Speaker 3: more visits, Timrou and the sub Antarctic Islands.

978
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: Now, the.

979
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: Head teacher at the kindy went to the sub Antarctic

980
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 3: Islands the other day. She told me it was awesome.

981
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Speaker 3: It's just beautiful and it's kind of quirky and weird.

982
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: That's why people go there. Timaro, I know you're thinking, Hello,

983
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 3: is this the nineteen sixties and everybody's going to Caroline

984
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 3: Bay again. No, Apparently what's going on is that Timaru

985
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: has made a concerted effort to attract cruises. So if

986
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: you go for it, it will come to you. Now,

987
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: you know how I feel about parking companies. I've pushed

988
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: it too far with one of them. I'm going to

989
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: tell you about this five twenty one.

990
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: Informed insight into today's issues. It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive

991
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: with One New Zealand. Let's get connected News talks that'd be.

992
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: Hush here there re five was a passenger on a

993
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: cruise ship and I went to Timaro. I'd be very

994
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 3: disappointed by the way. We're gonna have a little chat

995
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 3: to Steve coric Of, the head coach of the Auckland

996
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: football club shortly after the headlines. Right now it's five

997
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 3: twenty three, So listen on this business with the supermarkets,

998
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: I reckon the government might might want to take a

999
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: breath and just back off on the supermarkets. Will Worth

1000
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: is playing nicely at the moment, but don't be naive.

1001
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: They have released that report today for a reason, and

1002
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: that reason is to shift the blaze for our high

1003
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 3: grocery price is right back on the government and for

1004
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 3: the GST that the government puts on the groceries which

1005
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: other countries don't. Now, they could have had this conversation

1006
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 3: privately with the government, and apparently they did, but then

1007
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 3: they also went public with it. And the only reason

1008
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: they've gone public is to convince you and I that

1009
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: they Wilworths are not the problem. And if they're not

1010
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: the problem, who's the problem? The government for the tax

1011
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 3: and they will know it Willworth that this is fertile

1012
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 3: ground with voters, right, because for how long now have

1013
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: we debated at almost every election whether we should take

1014
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: GST off the fruit and vegetables. Now, personally, as I say,

1015
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: I think the government should stop making the supermarkets they're

1016
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 3: whipping boys. I know it plays well for them because

1017
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 3: everybody's cross at the supermarkets because people hate paying the

1018
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: high grocery bills and whatnot. But the government knows doing

1019
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: that is going to go absolutely nowhere. They're not actually

1020
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: this is the government. They're not actually going to do

1021
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: anything right. This is all just talk because the only

1022
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: country apparently where a government has intervened in the supermarket

1023
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: sector is Venezuela, and I don't think we want to

1024
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 3: copy them. And also that led to nine thousand jobs

1025
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: being lost and see sixty percent of stores being closed.

1026
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: Apparently also Alworths is a big enemy to take on. Right.

1027
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: These guys are overseas listed, they are multinational, They know

1028
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 3: how to play rough. If I was in government, I

1029
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 3: would read this report as a warning that this debate

1030
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: might soon stop being about where the supermarkets are fleecing

1031
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: us and become about whether the government is fleecing us.

1032
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 3: It might backfire on them, And I reckon. They should

1033
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: just back.

1034
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: Off now, Heather Dupless Allen.

1035
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 3: So, there's been a bit of chat today about hospital

1036
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: car parking charges, and the reason there's been chat about

1037
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: it is because you know the private companies. It's not

1038
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: the hospitals that run the car parking if you go there.

1039
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: The private companies run the hospital the hospital car parks,

1040
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: and apparently they charge more. This is Wilson's. Wilson's they

1041
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 3: charge more. Wilson's charge more at Middlemore than they do

1042
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: at Auckland Hospital, which is actually pretty low of them

1043
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: because we all know that the people who live in

1044
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 3: the middle More catchment are generally poorer than the people

1045
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 3: who live in the Auckland catchment, right, And if you

1046
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 3: live in the Auckland catchman, you've got more options to

1047
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 3: be a to get to the hospital. You don't have

1048
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 3: to take your car, take an uber, I don't know,

1049
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: if you're feeling well enough, you can take one of

1050
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: those little scooters. You can take a little bike, I

1051
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: don't know, take a bus whatever. But if you're a

1052
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: Middle More there's a completely different vibe. You don't have

1053
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: a lot of those options available to you, right, So

1054
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: them hiking up the price in Middlemore is stink and

1055
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: they are frankly they are stink. They all la stink. Anyway,

1056
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 3: I've pushed it too far. So what's happened is I've

1057
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: had a lot of interaction lately with the medical fraternity,

1058
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: as you know, because the husband tried to kill himself

1059
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 3: with his heart the other day, and so I spent

1060
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Speaker 3: a lot of time seeing him at the hospital, and

1061
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Speaker 3: then of course I went and had a baby, so

1062
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time at the hospital and

1063
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: obstetricians and stuff with that. And it turns out, unfortunately,

1064
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 3: the same company was running the car parks in both places.

1065
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: So I started getting a lot of tickets because I

1066
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: didn't realize at the husband's hospital that he actually had

1067
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: to I didn't realize at the first instance that he

1068
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 3: actually had to pay for it because it was after

1069
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 3: ours blah blah, being naive and I was frankly worried. Right,

1070
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: So anyway, I go in and I just don't pay

1071
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 3: for my car parking, and so I could get tickets.

1072
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: So I write to them and I'm like, your as

1073
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 3: I've told you a thousand times to do, your tickets

1074
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 3: are over the top. I'm not gonna pay this. You

1075
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: can have this money here you go buy and so

1076
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 3: I thought I'd sorted that out. Then I start getting

1077
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 3: tickets at the other place that I'm going to for

1078
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 3: the cobsentetrician, And the most recent one was because I

1079
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: went in when I was pregnant and that they were

1080
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 3: worried that that there was something wrong with the baby.

1081
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Speaker 3: So they strapped me in, get me on this little

1082
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Speaker 3: machine for half an hour, and then they were like,

1083
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 3: you need to go immediately and go get blood tests

1084
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 3: over the road. So in all of the kerfuffle worrying

1085
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: about the health of your baby, I ran over my

1086
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: time with the car park and didn't realize that I

1087
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: could back pay, and blah blah blah whatever, and I

1088
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: left and they sent me. They sent me a notice

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00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: and I wrote to them and I was like, this

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00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: is what I'm paying you this part no more and

1091
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: they were like, you owe us more. And I was like, no, no, no,

1092
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: you can stop communicating with me. That I consider this

1093
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 3: matter closed. And then they said to me, if you

1094
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: ever park in any of our car parks ever again,

1095
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 3: we will tell you. So now now smart ask me,

1096
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: I have the uber if I want to go to

1097
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 3: these places because I don't want or I have to

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00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: get another car because I don't want them tow my car.

1099
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: So that's backfired on me badly, isn't it. So maybe

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00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 3: you think twice before you followed my advice when it

1101
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,720
Speaker 3: comes to the car parking. Now anyway, headline's next.

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Speaker 1: To you.

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00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: On the iHeart app and in your car on your

1104
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Speaker 2: drive home, it's hither duplicy ellan drive with one New

1105
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 2: Zealand let's get connected news talks that'd be soon.

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00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 6: TASM will pose.

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00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 3: Very well, Leather. You need to lock out and get

1108
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: your number plate off the public register and that way

1109
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: they can't officially find you. Kevin, I tried. It doesn't

1110
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: work anyway. Anyway, listen, there is a little bit more

1111
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: on this. We will get to that. We'll get to

1112
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 3: that before this half hour through just a quick update

1113
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: apparently read this measles case that is proving a bit

1114
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: of a worry for the health authority. Seventy eight people

1115
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: are in quarantine. There are hundreds of close contacts identified.

1116
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 3: Isn't it like the good old days of COVID twenty

1117
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: four away from six now Auckland FC's got the premier's

1118
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: plate in the but now for the next bit. It's

1119
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Speaker 3: the playoff run. It starts tomorrow against the Melbourne victory

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Speaker 3: in Melbourne. Steve Corriker is Auckland FC's head coach.

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Speaker 20: He Steve, Hi, are you?

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00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: I'm very well? Thank you. You must be feeling super confident.

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Speaker 21: You're super confident and looking forward to it as well

1124
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 21: as a very exciting time for us to be first

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Speaker 21: year in the job and in our first semi final.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever gone into a playoff series feeling this

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00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: confident and with such an amazing track griggal behind you.

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Speaker 21: I probably have before we were in Sydney. When I

1129
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 21: was there we won the double that year. But I

1130
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Speaker 21: think you don't want to be too over confident. I

1131
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 21: think you know we did a fantastic job during the

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Speaker 21: season to win the premiership in our first year, but

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Speaker 21: you know, the finals are a different ball game and

1134
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Speaker 21: we have to respect the team that we're going to

1135
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Speaker 21: be playing against on Saturday, and we don't want any

1136
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Speaker 21: complacency from our team. We have to make sure that

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Speaker 21: we're ready for the challenge ahead.

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Speaker 3: Mate, being involved as you are as the head coach,

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00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: have you stopped and just reflected on what a remarkable

1140
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: thing this year that this year has been that you

1141
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: guys have set up a team and you've got all

1142
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: the way to this point already and won the Premiers played.

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00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 21: Not really yet. I think the ball's still going at

1144
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 21: the moment. We're still focusing on the semi finals, and

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00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 21: you know, our main aim is to get to the

1146
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 21: final and do the double in our first year. That

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Speaker 21: would be something amazing.

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Speaker 1: But right now.

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Speaker 21: We're just going at the flow, obviously preparing for the

1150
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 21: next game, and I think at the end of the season,

1151
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 21: hopefully we will have two trophies and we can really

1152
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 21: reflect and you know, we hear from a lot of

1153
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 21: people how you know, the communities come together that we're

1154
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 21: doing such a great job for the community, and that's

1155
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Speaker 21: very nice to hear.

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00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 3: I ask this of everybody that I talked to about

1157
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: this team, and I'm going to ask this of you,

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00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: How the hell has this happened? Like, what has Bill

1159
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 3: Foley got? What is this business model that he talks

1160
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: about that works?

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Speaker 21: It looks like whatever he touches turns the goals. So yeah, no,

1162
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 21: I think, you know, the most important thing is bringing

1163
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 21: in the right people, good people as well, people that

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00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 21: are hungry to succeed and to win for us, and

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Speaker 21: obviously they've got to be good footballers as well. So

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Speaker 21: I think we've got a really good blend of players

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Speaker 21: and coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: So you're saying, Okay, it's talented people, but it's people

1169
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Speaker 3: with something to prove as well. Of course.

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Speaker 21: You know, I think for me, every year you've got

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00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 21: something to prove.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 21: I think it's just having that mentality to always try

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Speaker 21: and keep winning. You know, this is our first year,

1175
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 21: so you know it's it's probably an easy one because

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00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 21: it's a startup club. We've done something only one of

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Speaker 21: the club in the A League has ever done, which

1178
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 21: is wondrous. You know, they got to the final as

1179
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 21: well in their first year and they lost. So our

1180
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 21: aim is to go one better and to try and

1181
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Speaker 21: clinch the double.

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Speaker 3: Why are the tickets so expensive? By the way, this

1183
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 3: is what people are talking aboutout it's run by the APL.

1184
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: Now it's not from our club, but you know, I'm

1185
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 3: sure definitely next week our supporters will get right behind us,

1186
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: be a full stadium at go Media.

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Speaker 21: They've put in extra seats for that, and yeah, we're

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00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 21: looking forward to coming home and hopefully been in a

1189
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Speaker 21: good position to give ourselves the best chance to win.

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Speaker 3: Steve, good luck. I don't think you need it, but

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Speaker 3: good luck. Thank you so much, Steve Courrik Auckland, the

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Speaker 3: FC head coach. Hey, by the way, Andrew Little with

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Speaker 3: us after six o'clock, I'll explain why shortly.

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Speaker 10: It's twenty two the Friday Sports with New Zealand Southeby's

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Speaker 10: International Realty Find You're one of a kind, going out.

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Speaker 7: The planks and lend us Celebrations figures.

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Speaker 11: A league premierss given it a Ryan Ryan Fox f fantastic.

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Speaker 8: Hollol Bernie been the first playoff hole.

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Speaker 21: I'm delighted that Naples has ended up coming out on top.

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Speaker 4: It's a great city, it's a great sailing venue.

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Speaker 18: It'll be a wonderful location for the next America's Cup.

1202
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Speaker 3: Right on the Sports title with Us this evening, Abby

1203
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 3: Wilson one new sports edit and Jim Kaye's producer of

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00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 3: the Breakdown at sky TV.

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Speaker 13: Hi U too good?

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00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 3: I hello, Abby? What do you reckon?

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00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 18: Is the key?

1208
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: Hungry players?

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00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 8: Like?

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00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: Is that more important than talent? Hunger over talent?

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00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 17: Well, I think it's a bit of both.

1212
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 22: Like they got hungry players in those hungry players have

1213
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 22: shown their talent and now they still have that hunger.

1214
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 22: And I guess the point to prove not just you know,

1215
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 22: to win the A League, but also to this team

1216
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 22: that had faith in them. Like you think of players

1217
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 22: like Francis de Freeze right was playing club football. He

1218
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 22: comes to Auckland FC does really well back in the

1219
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 22: all Whites fold and so you know, you want to

1220
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 22: reward people who batch you, don't you if your players

1221
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 22: like that, And so I think there is that hunger.

1222
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 22: I went to training this week, which I haven't done

1223
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 22: all season, and I was impressed, like they were into it.

1224
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 22: They were aggressive, they were not holding back, and I

1225
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 22: don't doubt that there's a lot of hunger.

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Speaker 3: Is Abby is Alex Poulsen off next season?

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00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 17: Yeah yep.

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Speaker 22: I mean he's made such a difference as that that

1229
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Speaker 22: goalie for them.

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Speaker 17: But I mean it was an interesting way how he

1231
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 17: ended up there.

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00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 22: Remember he was with the Phoenix, Bill Foley signs into

1233
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 22: his you know, a foreign team and then he ends

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00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 22: up at the Yorklean. See he's made a major difference.

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Speaker 22: It'll be interesting next year how they go. But again

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00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 22: he also you know, would want to go out in

1237
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 22: the high Yeah.

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00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: Probably, Oh well, i'd imagine absolutely. Jim, are you how

1239
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you've you've seen a fair few seasons of everything,

1240
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: haven't you? How impressed are you at this lot?

1241
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Speaker 23: It's just incredible And I mean your question to Steve

1242
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 23: was on the money, how how on earth have they

1243
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 23: done what they've done?

1244
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 24: And not just on the field but in.

1245
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 23: The stands and you know, everywhere you turn someone's wearing

1246
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 23: an AFC shirt or a capper the further and the

1247
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 23: support is incredible. Someone one day will write a thesis

1248
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 23: on it and we might get a bit of an

1249
00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 23: insight into it.

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Speaker 24: But it is a amazing.

1251
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 23: I've not seen anything like this in New Zealand for

1252
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 23: a club team like this. I mean we see it

1253
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 23: for things like a World Cup, you know, the Cricket

1254
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 23: World Cup, the Rugby World Cup.

1255
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 24: We used to see it for the America's Cup.

1256
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 23: We're going to talk about that soon, say ninety five,

1257
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 23: and those sorts of things. But for a club like this,

1258
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 23: I've not seen anything like it. It's quite staggering and

1259
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 23: it's wonderful. Like it's easy to get excited for them,

1260
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 23: isn't it.

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00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1262
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 3: Totally. Now, speaking of the America's Cup. Jym So, I

1263
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 3: was listening to somebody this morning having a giant winge

1264
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 3: about fact that the America then ten New Zealand is

1265
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: sailing in Italy and it's helmed by an Australian. So

1266
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: is it even a New Zealand team, to which I say, no,

1267
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 3: it's not. It's Grant Dalton's team. Are we ever going

1268
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 3: to stop banging on about this?

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00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1270
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 23: Who cares?

1271
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 24: I mean, it's an international sport. It's an international team.

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00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 23: That person they're talking about is Marrita. Quious kids are

1273
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 23: Kiwis and he lives in New Zealand. So I don't

1274
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 23: know what qualifies it nowadays as being a New Zealander.

1275
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 23: But look, this has been an international team for an

1276
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 23: extremely long time. It's like, I'm not a sailor, but

1277
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 23: this is a very different boat that they sail compared

1278
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 23: to the boats of you know, two or three America's

1279
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 23: Cups to go And some people get really upset about that. Well, okay,

1280
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 23: if you're going to get upset, then then don't watch it,

1281
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 23: don't follow it.

1282
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 24: You know, don't get interested in it. I mean it's you.

1283
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 23: Know, it's like complaining that formula one has gone to

1284
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 23: cars that were faster than they were in nineteen seventy six.

1285
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 24: Okay, you know it's I think Tim's.

1286
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 3: Bang on here, Abby. I mean, I feel like people

1287
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: just I feel like the America. I feel like people

1288
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: read about the America's Cup and they are primed to

1289
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 3: get annoyed.

1290
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 22: Yeah they are, I mean, but I would also say

1291
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 22: that the interest levels have gone down since it sailed

1292
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 22: off shore. And so I think if your team New Zealand,

1293
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 22: you have to accept that making decisions like this, it

1294
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 22: alienates you further and further from the New Zealand public.

1295
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 22: Now they'd argue that they've made these decisions to win,

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Speaker 22: and winners get supporters, and so it's sort of a cycle.

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Speaker 22: But I yeah, I think it's the minute they went

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Speaker 22: to Barcelona for that defense, that ship sailed. I think

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00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 22: they sailed away from you know, being in hearts of

1300
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 22: New Zealanders really and maybe now it's just the real

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00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 22: die hard sailors who are really invested in a team

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Speaker 22: which is less and less a representation of New undred percent.

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Speaker 23: And I'd argue that they don't care. They have zero

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Speaker 23: interested in what the New Zealand sporting fan cares.

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Speaker 3: About yeah, and we win.

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Speaker 22: They are winning as well, aren't they? And so is

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00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 22: that more important than sports.

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00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 24: For themselves and their sponsors and everyone else?

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00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 23: And whether you know, I mean the Red Sox campaign,

1310
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 23: it's a long time ago. They're a professional outfit. They

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00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 23: don't give two hoots what the New Zealand public thinks.

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00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 24: And they'll sell. They'll sell anywhere where they're going to

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Speaker 24: make a dollar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely agree. All right, quarter two, we'll take a break,

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Speaker 3: come back to you guys shortly.

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Speaker 2: The Friday sports title with New Zealand South of East

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Speaker 2: International Realty, the ones with local and global reach.

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Speaker 3: Okay, sports tititles back with us, and I just cannot

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00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: get excited about the Sky Apparently Jim is bringing back

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Speaker 3: televised first fifteen rugby. Who watches televised first fifteen rugby?

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Speaker 23: Loads of people, you'd be very surprised, loads and loads

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Speaker 23: of people.

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Speaker 24: If you're a kid at the school, you're a parent

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00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 24: of grant.

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Speaker 3: Are you're saying this because you're employed at Sky.

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Speaker 23: No, I'm saying it because that's not the numbers show.

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00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 23: And it only went away when the one A pulled

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Speaker 23: out of the deal and said we don't want it.

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Speaker 24: On TV.

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Speaker 23: These are the same schools, mind you, that are quite

1331
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 23: happy to poach players from other schools and bring back

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Speaker 23: students a year fourteens so that they've got better teams.

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Speaker 24: So where their morals are I'm not really sure.

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00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 23: And not just in rugby and rowing and lots of

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Speaker 23: other sports as well.

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Speaker 3: But no, no.

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Speaker 24: Answer your question.

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Speaker 23: There's a strong interest in first fifteen rugby boys and girls,

1339
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 23: and you know Sky would not be Sky doesn't put

1340
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 23: on Telly things that people don't want to watch.

1341
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 3: This is a convincing argument, Abby, But do you sit

1342
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 3: down and watch it?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 22: But Heather, you and I don't have children who play

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00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 22: first atene rugby. We probably didn't play first fifteen rugby ourselves.

1346
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 22: But I was in Central Otago of the weekend and

1347
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 22: went along Saturday morning sport and was reminded how big

1348
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 22: rugby is in the regions, especially the entire community revolves

1349
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 22: around it. Everyone's there, everyone's talking about it, and it's

1350
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Speaker 22: sort of it is that beating heart of the community

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Speaker 22: from start.

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Speaker 3: Are you I know the kids that you went to

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01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,439
Speaker 3: see and neither none of them are in the first

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Speaker 3: fifteen age.

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Speaker 22: No, but all the families then went on to watch

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Speaker 22: First fifteen, and so what I'm saying is it's a

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Speaker 22: big yeah, and they know what school dad went to

1358
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 22: in Grandpa and so there's all that sort of those

1359
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 22: links around the space.

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Speaker 17: Are you're going to watch it?

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Speaker 3: Are you telling me that there were families who went

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Speaker 3: to watch the first fifteen who don't even have kids

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Speaker 3: at that school or kids in that team.

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Speaker 17: Yep, but maybe they have a link or they're involved.

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Speaker 23: With that time have been at Eden Park when a

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Speaker 23: school's game played Curtain Raiser to an NPC game and

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Speaker 23: three quarters of the crowd left after the school's game.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm getting to schooled on this because Jim I

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01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: thought about this. I thought, you can't even get me

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Speaker 3: to watch Super Rugby. Why the hell am I tuning

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Speaker 3: in for firse fifteen? But you're telling me this is

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Speaker 3: potentially more successful and it's.

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Speaker 24: A great product.

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Speaker 23: It's a good style of rugby, it's a it's a

1375
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 23: more free flowing style of rugby.

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01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 24: It's highly entertaining.

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 23: Honestly, it gets watched and and you know, as Zambi said,

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Speaker 23: for those people who are involved in the school or

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01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 23: have been involved in the school, they love watching the

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Speaker 23: old school they love watching their current school.

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 24: They love watching their.

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01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 23: Son or daughter, grandson, granddaughter, those sorts of things playing

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Speaker 23: for their school.

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01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 24: There's a huge amount of pride.

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01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 23: Come on, you know, if you're from christ Church, the

1386
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 23: first thing you laughed anyone is what school did you?

1387
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Speaker 3: But that's not you know, it's not always a good thing,

1388
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 3: but so here.

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Speaker 22: That you're probably just not target audience, I guess, is

1390
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Speaker 22: the bottom line.

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 3: And then but once So what you're saying is once

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01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: the kids hit that age and I am target audience,

1394
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Speaker 3: then I'm hooked for life on first of all, life, Yeah,

1395
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 3: for life life.

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Speaker 24: You were right, Abby and Jim and I was wrong.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and ab these kids are the same, Abbe. Your

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01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: kids are like roughly the same age as my kids.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna have a rivalry. A. It's going to

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Speaker 3: be north Shore, Yeah, totally, It's gonna be the whole way. Abby. Listen,

1401
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 3: I know you people are big into the golf in

1402
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 3: your family. Did you did you?

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Speaker 20: We are?

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01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 3: Did you expect that Ryan was going to do as

1406
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 3: well as he's doing.

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01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 22: I am backed him in my sweep steak And can

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01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 22: I just tell you why? Because sometimes I think when

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01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 22: you've got nothing to lose and nothing to prove. That's

1410
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 22: the best way to play golf. Yeah, he wasn't expected

1411
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 22: to play at the event. He's just had a breakthrough

1412
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 22: when he probably hasn't had the preparation he should have

1413
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 22: had for a major, and so you go out there

1414
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 22: and you probably play with a bit of freedom.

1415
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 17: And enjoyment that you don't normally have.

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01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 22: Whether he can string four wonderful rounds together is the

1417
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 22: real test. But if I mean, as long as it's

1418
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 22: not really really low scoring over the four rounds, if

1419
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 22: there's a few challenges, some conditions, things like that, I

1420
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 22: think he could do quite well.

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon, Jim?

1422
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 6: I love him.

1423
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 23: I think he's a sort of sports person that Kiori's

1424
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 23: loved to get him behind. He loves a beer and

1425
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 23: loves good loves to go fishing with his mates, plays

1426
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 23: golf with a little bit of carefree abandoned. You know

1427
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 23: the shot that won that won the PGA tournament the

1428
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 23: other week, Yeah, he gave it a feroh tog and

1429
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 23: it just went straight.

1430
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 24: The whole way. You know, at work, everyone was hooping

1431
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 24: and hollering.

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Speaker 23: I think he's great. He's a breath of fresh air

1433
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 23: for his yellow sport. He's been around a while, but

1434
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 23: you know what I mean, or power to him. I

1435
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 23: hope he wins as many things as you can.

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01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 24: He seems to be very very popular.

1437
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 23: Guys Rory McElroy rate him, are friends with him. He's

1438
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,959
Speaker 23: great for the sport and he's a he's a fun

1439
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 23: loving Kiwi sportsman.

1440
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 24: More pouty.

1441
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to support him. Hey, guys, thank you

1442
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: so much. Enjoy yourselves, have a good weekend. This Abbie

1443
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: Wilson won New Sports HiT's a jim Ka's producer of

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 3: the Breakdown at sky TV. Heather stick to parking fines,

1445
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: you're rubbish at Sports Commentary. Heather, Schoolboy rugby is far

1446
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: better than Super Rugby and the All Blacks because the

1447
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: kids don't win. Heather, you know, jack shite. Schoolboy rugby

1448
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 3: is the best. Okay, I got it. Seven away from six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

1450
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: on my Art Radio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 1: It'd be Hither.

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01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 3: I don't have kids. It's great rugby. Hither. I'm seventy

1453
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 3: three and I love Okay, I'll get it. I'll get it.

1454
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll try watching it. Maybe I'll try watching it, okay,

1455
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 3: cause super Rugby sucks, so maybe I'll do that. Five

1456
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: away from six. Hey, listen, have you heard of something

1457
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: called normal marital hatred? So this is doing the rounds online.

1458
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: It's a therapist called Terry Reel talking about normal marital hatred.

1459
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 25: The father of Couples to Be back in the fifties said,

1460
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 25: the day you turn to the person who's next to

1461
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 25: you and you say, this is a mistake I've been had,

1462
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 25: This is not the person I fell in love with,

1463
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 25: that said FRAMO is the first day of your real marriage.

1464
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 25: So here's what I want to say about this harmony.

1465
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 25: It hurts, it's dark. You can really really feel like,

1466
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 25: what the hell did I get myself into?

1467
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: This is so a disappointment.

1468
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 25: And guess what your partner's probably feeling.

1469
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 26: That about you too.

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 25: I talk about normal marital hatred. When you're in that

1471
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 25: dark face, you hate your partner. That's okay, It's part

1472
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 25: of the deal for many of it.

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01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 3: Now, apparently he is yet to meet anyone who disagrees

1474
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: with him when he talks about it. No one's like,

1475
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: what is that. They're all like, yeah, that's a thing. Now,

1476
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 3: I just want to be clear with you. This came

1477
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 3: from the Laura, the German. I did not bring this

1478
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 3: to your attention. She said, have you seen this thing? Now?

1479
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 3: Did this pop up on your Facebook? On your Facebook?

1480
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 3: Why is Facebook serving you this? Because you know it's

1481
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: based on are you it's based on algorithms. Didn't you

1482
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: get served that book as well? That's like how not

1483
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 3: to hate your partner after kids? You didn't get served

1484
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 3: that book? Oh that was me am, all my friends

1485
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: and that's sold out in New Zealand as well. By

1486
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 3: the way, one of my friends, Emma, not naming any names.

1487
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 3: Emma try to buy it because she couldn't anyway, just

1488
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 3: saying Facebook is sending us a lot of very dark

1489
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 3: stuff about our partners. Facebook. You need to stop immediately. Facebook.

1490
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Speaker 3: We need a ban on social media use for anybody

1491
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 3: under the age of sixty anyway, Sorry about that. Laura's husband,

1492
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 3: Andrew Little's with us. Next because Tory, because you know

1493
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: what she's like. She's signing all these contracts for the

1494
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 3: Golden Mile to tie his hands when he becomes men,

1495
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: which is probably what's going to happen. He's going to

1496
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 3: talk to us about that. Next news talks EDB.

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Speaker 7: Person over again.

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Speaker 1: Where business meets Insight the Business.

1499
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Speaker 2: Hour it's with Heather Duplessy Allen and Mayors, Insurance and investments,

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Speaker 2: Grow your wealth, Protect your future Newstalk sib.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour, Peter Lewis

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Speaker 3: on what happens next in that US China trade, will

1503
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 3: Gavin Grays with US out of the UK and Jason

1504
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 3: wools will wrap the political week that was at seven

1505
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 3: past six. Now Andrew Little is calling on Tory Fino

1506
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 3: to stop signing contracts to tie his hands. The Wellington

1507
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 3: mayor has indicated that she will deliberately stile sign contracts

1508
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 3: for the Golden Mile so that he will keep going

1509
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: with the project if he becomes the mayor and he's

1510
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 3: with us. Now, hey, Andrew, do you know I mean

1511
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Speaker 3: this is something she said she would do, But is

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Speaker 3: she actually signing any contracts?

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Speaker 26: I don't know, and I don't have it really a

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Speaker 26: way of knowing unless they announce it. But I just

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01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 26: think there's you know, she's not going to be the

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Speaker 26: mayor after the addiction she's stood aside. Who knows she's

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Speaker 26: going to be on council. But given the significance of

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Speaker 26: the project and how sensitive it is and some of

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Speaker 26: the issues that particularly business have expressed about it, and

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Speaker 26: not being opposed to it, but just a level of

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Speaker 26: disruption that could cause. It's a project that should just

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Speaker 26: have a rule run over it reviewed, see whether it's

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Speaker 26: phased right and staged right and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 26: And for that reason, the Council shouldn't be entering into

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Speaker 26: contracts for the later stages until the new Council has

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Speaker 26: had a chance to look at it.

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Speaker 3: Did you make a mistake do you think by saying

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Speaker 3: that you will not get out of any contracts that

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Speaker 3: are signed between now and the election.

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Speaker 6: No, not at all.

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Speaker 26: Well, it's pretty hard to do that without incurring massive

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Speaker 26: legal costs because the other party to the contract could

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Speaker 26: see for specific performance. I don't want Counsel to be

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Speaker 26: tied up in a whole bunch of legal rangers. They've

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Speaker 26: had enough as it is. But I do think the

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Speaker 26: current Council it is within their powers collectively to make

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Speaker 26: sure that, given the changed council landscape after the election,

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Speaker 26: to put things on hold and then for things to

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Speaker 26: be reviewed after that.

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Speaker 3: Now, she says in a statement to us, well, candidates

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Speaker 3: may have their own views. They do not have the

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Speaker 3: mandate to demand that our council cease progress on any

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Speaker 3: democratically agreed upon projects. What do you say to that?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, look, that's technically correct. But I just think there's

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Speaker 26: the whole thing about the Golden Mile and the implementation

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Speaker 26: of it is a political issue. It's an election issue,

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Speaker 26: and there's a lot of disquiet about it, and it's

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Speaker 26: a business community down that CBD who are under real

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Speaker 26: pressure at the moment. So I just think if the

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Speaker 26: Council is doing its job, it is you know, hearing

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Speaker 26: what is going on, reading the room, and taking the

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Speaker 26: right steps and waiting till the new Council gets in

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Speaker 26: and can make the longer term decision.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, is it possible that you may have to renege

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Speaker 3: on that promise not to break any of these contracts

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Speaker 3: or go back on any of these contracts? I mean,

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Speaker 3: is it possible that you may actually have to do

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Speaker 3: that depending on what happens.

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Speaker 26: Only if there was sort of completely outrageous things in

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Speaker 26: the contracts. Contracts or contracts that's you know, you're and

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Speaker 26: everybody's laws go over them with a fine toothed cone.

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Speaker 26: I don't want I'm certainly not going to promise if

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Speaker 26: I'm elected as meyor to put the Council in the

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Speaker 26: position where they then going to be spending years defending

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Speaker 26: their actions in courts because they've decided to break contracts.

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Speaker 26: But I think that the real answer isn't you know

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Speaker 26: over going to break contracts? Is it is within the

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Speaker 26: power of the Council now over the next five months

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Speaker 26: is to just stop and say, look, things are going

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Speaker 26: to change after the eleventh of October, whoever is mere

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Speaker 26: and that's a time for a new council with a

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Speaker 26: new man data total look at everything and make sure

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Speaker 26: that we're sensitive to the needs of the businesses up

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Speaker 26: and down the Golden Mile.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, it's good to talk to you. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much mate. That's Andrew too Little Wellington mayor or candidate

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Speaker 3: James Comey. I don't know if you've seen this, but

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Speaker 3: James Comy is in trouble. You know, the for but

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Speaker 3: FBI director. He's under investigation from the Secret Service because

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Speaker 3: of something he's put on social media. Once again, I

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Speaker 3: will reiterate, adults need to take themselves off social media.

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Speaker 3: You're not that clever, No one cares and you get

1583
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 3: yourself in trouble. And here's a case in point. He

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Speaker 3: went on a little walk on the beach and he

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01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 3: put an instagram, Oh look, it's a cool shell formation

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01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 3: on my beach walk. And what it was was shells

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Speaker 3: in the shape of eighty six forty seven. Now eighty

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Speaker 3: six means to throw out, to get rid of, to

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Speaker 3: refuse service too, but it is also considered to mean

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Speaker 3: to kill, So eighty six means to kill, forty seven

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Speaker 3: means the forty seventh President of the United States being

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump. So he's just written in shell talk killed

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump. He think up on social media, as you

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01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: would imagine, he's removed it. He said, didn't mean to

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Speaker 3: do that, but now he's under investigation from the Secret Service.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, there we go, cool guy.

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Speaker 2: Twelve past six, it's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive

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Speaker 3: Just reminder, Peter Lewis is going to talk us through

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Speaker 3: the US China trade deal when he's with us in

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Speaker 3: about twenty minutes time right now, it's coming up quarter

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Speaker 3: past six. Now, wrapping the political week that was, we

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Speaker 3: have our political editor Jason Walls welcome back, Jason, Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much. Right Seaword, who comes out of this

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 3: debate the worst?

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Speaker 14: Oh, it's an interesting question because you ask a thousand people,

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Speaker 14: you get a thousand, Well, you probably won't get a

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Speaker 14: thousand different answers.

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Speaker 13: You probably get three or four.

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Speaker 14: But to be honest, I think the Labor Party comes

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Speaker 14: out of the worst of this one because of such

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Speaker 14: bad political management. It was them that introduced the question

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Speaker 14: into the House and it was because of that that

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Speaker 14: the sea word was even there in the first I mean,

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Speaker 14: Andrea Vance's column is the reason why it was introduced

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Speaker 14: to the political rhetoric this week. But if they didn't

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Speaker 14: ask that question, which Chris Hipkins later said it was

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Speaker 14: a mistake, then none of this would have ever happened.

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Speaker 14: And it has really and I'm sure you'll agree, it's

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Speaker 14: really shifted the attention away from the issue of pay

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Speaker 14: equity and really to this idea of sort of misogyny

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Speaker 14: towards right wing women within New Zealand's Parliament. So I

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Speaker 14: think the Labor Party comes off looking the worst here,

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Speaker 14: despite the fact that it was Brooke that said it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you think that because this was the

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Speaker 3: first opportunity that National had to actually make themselves look

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Speaker 3: like the National Anacts, by the way, to make themselves

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Speaker 3: look like the victims will shift the argument away. Do

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Speaker 3: they come out of it looking like victims? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm not entirely convinced that right wing women can play

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Speaker 3: victims very well, because they generally tend to be quite

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Speaker 3: strong characters.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think it's almost irrelevant at this point.

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Speaker 14: I think that the NAT's and Act will just be

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Speaker 14: happy with the fact that they're not people screaming from

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Speaker 14: the rooftops You're cunning women's pay, because they've managed to

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Speaker 14: shift the narrative. And I think that's why that it's

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Speaker 14: sort of like the brick bat of the week has

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Speaker 14: to go to the Labor Party for letting this happen

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Speaker 14: in terms of the narrative in the House.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hey, listen, have you got to the bottom of

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Speaker 3: what the hell went wrong with Jerry Brownlee this week

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Speaker 3: and why he's gone soft on the punishment.

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Speaker 14: Jerry brown Well, I mean, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 14: the Speaker is the speaker, and the ruling that the

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Speaker 14: Speaker makes is sacrasant in terms of the way that

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01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 14: he runs the Parliament. But there could be people that

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Speaker 14: look at it to say, you know, the Privileges Committee

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Speaker 14: has essentially.

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Speaker 13: They've suggested a.

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Speaker 14: Twenty one day ban based off the Tipati Marti co

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Speaker 14: leaders in seven days for Hannah Rapti might be clark

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Speaker 14: based on their actions in the House and to a

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Speaker 14: lesser extent, but probably didn't help their actions outside the

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Speaker 14: House when it came to sort of breaching that privilege.

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Speaker 14: So I'm really interested to see what happens on Tuesday,

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Speaker 14: because at the end of the day, the fate of

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Speaker 14: the MP's are now up to their other MPs in

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Speaker 14: the House. I mean, Jerry Browne did make the point

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Speaker 14: within his ruling on a Thursday that the committee was

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Speaker 14: very evenly split and it was only just the twenty

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Speaker 14: one day ban was by a slim margin.

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Speaker 13: So it's gonna be lively debate.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but and correct me if I'm wrong, But my

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Speaker 3: understanding of this is that it's going to be a

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Speaker 3: very long debate as well, because he's given everybody the

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Speaker 3: opportunity to speak on this and multiple times as well,

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Speaker 3: so they could fill a bus to the heck out

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 14: And if your te party, Marti, why wouldn't you I

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Speaker 14: mean this, if you see this as your last opportunity

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Speaker 14: to be in the house where every single news camera

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Speaker 14: and microphone is on you, you'd be filibustering this till

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Speaker 14: the cows come home. And don't forget that we have

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Speaker 14: the budget next week as well. So Chris Bishop actually

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Speaker 14: stood up and seemed quite nervous about the government's legislative

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Speaker 14: e gender with this actually going to basically.

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Speaker 13: Being shoehorned in and being the one thing that people

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Speaker 13: will be.

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Speaker 3: Focusing So tell me something, though, is this the last

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Speaker 3: sitting week of parliament.

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Speaker 13: Next week for it? Yes? So the budget is always

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Speaker 13: lasted on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: What happens because presumably they're gonna they're going to debate

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Speaker 3: this punishment on Tuesday and Wednesday. It could potentially go

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Speaker 3: on for longer than that, couldn't it. And then they

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Speaker 3: start doing the budget on Thursday. Then do they come

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Speaker 3: back to it? Do they start do they go into Friday?

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Speaker 13: Well, I mean that's the thing.

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Speaker 14: The Parliament will probably be in urgency I would imagine

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Speaker 14: on Friday and into Saturday as well, as the government

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Speaker 14: looks to get some of its legislation in the government through.

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Speaker 14: That was sort of the indication that we got from

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Speaker 14: Chris Bishop in the House on Thursday, and he told

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Speaker 14: Kieran mcinnalty there's a cute little exchange about how they

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Speaker 14: might have to have a beer together on Saturday night.

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Speaker 13: So that was me hearing that it's going to be interourgency.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now the Greens, how does Chippy feel? Have you

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Speaker 3: read Chippy's vibes? Have you got? Have you have you since?

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Speaker 3: Whether this is upset has zin.

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Speaker 14: Well, on the surface, he's not going to give much

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Speaker 14: away and he in fact, he didn't really rule anything

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Speaker 14: in or out.

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Speaker 13: But I thought it was interesting.

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Speaker 14: I was listening to your huddle earlier in the week

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Speaker 14: with I think was Jack Tame and with David Farrier,

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Speaker 14: and he made this really interesting point. He said that

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Speaker 14: he pulls the drag that other leaders have on the

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Speaker 14: main leaders, and when it comes to Winston Peters and

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Speaker 14: David Seymour, the Nats actually kind of like them. If

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Speaker 14: you're a national voter's voter, you kind of like Seymour

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Speaker 14: and you kind of like Winston Shoe. On the other foot,

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Speaker 14: with the left, labor voters do not like the Greens

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Speaker 14: and they do not like Tea Party.

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Speaker 13: Marty's leaders.

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Speaker 14: So this is an interesting conundrum for Chris Hipkins because

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Speaker 14: no way can he let any of these policies come through.

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Speaker 14: I mean, forty four billion dollars of extra borrowing and

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Speaker 14: eighty eight billion dollars of extra taxes. It's just not

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Speaker 14: going to happen under any sort of iteration of labor government.

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Speaker 14: But he's got to worry because now, if you were

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Speaker 14: the NATS at this stage, you'd be starting to paint

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Speaker 14: these three as the sort of the same party in

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Speaker 14: the same coalition, which is really going to damage them,

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Speaker 14: according to that poll from David Farrier.

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Speaker 3: Jason, thanks very much, really appreciate it. Jason Wall's political

1727
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 3: lidatary at Newstalks. He'd be wrapping the political week there

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01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 3: was at twenty past.

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01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 1: Six together du the cl I see.

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 3: Wayne Brown has got himself well, he hasn't got himself

1731
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 3: in trouble. People are getting upset with him. I think

1732
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 3: that's for Wayne, that's probably a regular thing, so he's

1733
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 3: probably not all too stressed about it. But this time

1734
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 3: they're upset with him for so called migrant bashing. Because

1735
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 3: what happened was he was at that super City conference

1736
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,600
Speaker 3: the other day and he said that because Auckland is

1737
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: such a big deal. Auckland should get more say on

1738
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 3: immigration numbers and quote, what types of people we are

1739
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 3: getting we need to be replacing young people going away.

1740
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 3: We don't need any more Uber drivers, we need other

1741
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 3: things this time. Now, normally I would kind of just

1742
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 3: on the face of a degree with him, of course

1743
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: we don't need more Uber drivers, we need other things.

1744
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 3: But interesting experience today in the Uber So it's coming

1745
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 3: into work and the Uber drivers started chatting to me,

1746
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 3: and you know, I just asked how business is going.

1747
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,799
Speaker 3: I feel like Uber is always quite a good litmus

1748
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 3: test for how a regional or even a national economy

1749
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 3: is going. And he said to me, actually, I'm not

1750
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 3: really an Uber driver. I'm a financial strategist. And what

1751
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 3: had happened was he was a financial strategist. The business

1752
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 3: closed down or outsourced or did whatever it did, and he,

1753
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 3: amongst many others, lost their jobs.

1754
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 20: Right.

1755
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 3: They were cost cutting like many businesses have had to

1756
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 3: do in the last fee while. And so basically you

1757
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 3: got stung by the recession. He was an immigrant, by

1758
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 3: the way, just for context here, so he obviously, how

1759
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: many is a financial strategist lost his job decided he

1760
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 3: needed to uber drive just to pay the mortgage, he said,

1761
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 3: but now he's having to work instead of a normal

1762
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 3: working week in the Uber, he has to work seventy

1763
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,200
Speaker 3: plus hours. He said. Today he'd already done sixty plus

1764
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 3: hours for the week when he picked me up around

1765
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 3: about lunchtimeish, So he said, by the end of the

1766
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 3: week he'll have done seventy plus hours just to be

1767
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 3: able to pay his mortgage. So what I would say is,

1768
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's as clear cut at the moment,

1769
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 3: because at the moment, what we have is a lot

1770
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 3: of people. And my husband noticed this. He was like,

1771
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: have you noticed the quality of the cars. Uber cars

1772
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 3: are really good at the moment, And immediately I thought, yeah,

1773
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 3: Uber cars are good at the moment because these are

1774
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 3: people who don't normally Uber drive, the people who actually

1775
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: had other jobs who've lost their jobs. So a lot

1776
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 3: of Uber drivers out there who are qualified with other things.

1777
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 3: So don't be too harsh weighing on the Uber drivers,

1778
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 3: because we might need to get them to stay here

1779
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 3: so that they can do the financial strategist stuff that

1780
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 3: they actually came here to do. Six twenty two croaging.

1781
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: The numbers and getting the results.

1782
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: It's hither duplic ellen with the business hour and mass

1783
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,799
Speaker 2: insurance and investments, grow your wealth, take your future.

1784
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: Please talk sa'd be.

1785
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 3: Okay some point. Hither my friend is a plastic surgeon

1786
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 3: from overseas. He's an uber driver. He's waiting to pass

1787
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 3: his exam so that he can practice in New Zealand.

1788
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 3: So there we go, six twenty five. Listen on this

1789
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 3: thing that I told you a round about an hour

1790
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 3: ago about me getting into trouble with everybody's assuming it's Wilson.

1791
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 3: It's not Wilson's Car Parking. But I'm not naming the

1792
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: car parking company because I feel like that would be

1793
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 3: an abuse of my position to just smack talk them

1794
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 3: on the radio. So they don't need it. Everybody hates

1795
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 3: them anyway.

1796
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 13: They're a car fucking company.

1797
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 7: Anyway.

1798
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 3: Anyway, So everybody has been telling me on the text.

1799
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 3: So what I need to do is change my license plates. Hither,

1800
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,599
Speaker 3: reregister your car to get another number plate on it. Hither,

1801
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 3: what about changing your number plate? It's only about fourteen dollars,

1802
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 3: I think, Neil, thank you. You know I love cheap things.

1803
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 3: Here that it sounds like it's time to get a

1804
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 3: personalized plate on your car. You READIO new Life on

1805
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 3: the car parking, Thank you Reese. Hither you need to

1806
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 3: complain your number plate has been stolen, Get yourself a

1807
01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:58,360
Speaker 3: new number plate. Wilson's won't ever clear? Wasn't Wilson's was

1808
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 3: the other one? Hither? Why don't you just go to

1809
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,599
Speaker 3: VTNZ and get yourself a new number plate? Hither get

1810
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 3: new number plates for your car? Mike's everybody's got everybody's

1811
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 3: onto it, so because then what can happen is I

1812
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: could just start my journey with this particular company again

1813
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 3: and they won't know, so they won't be able to

1814
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 3: tow me. Thank you. I really appreciate this information from AMA.

1815
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 3: Should do that might be worth it because I certainly

1816
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 3: get getting your car back from towing isn't cost the

1817
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 3: hell of a lot more than fourteen dollars, isn't it?

1818
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 3: And the worst bit about it is I kind of

1819
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 3: know where not to park because of the two places

1820
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 3: I've been pinging before. But what about if they're running

1821
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 3: a car park I didn't know about, and what are

1822
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 3: they looking for me?

1823
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 4: Like?

1824
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 3: What about if I part I don't know? Let's just

1825
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 3: go to drive down to Palmerston North for whatever it is,

1826
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 3: and I don't know, trip to parme pull into a

1827
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: car park. What if they're running the park the hotel

1828
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: car park at Palmiston North. I pull in there, then

1829
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 3: they go, oh, there she is, There she is. We've

1830
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 3: been waiting for her, Go and get her. Toe her.

1831
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: I just feel like they're out to get me. It's

1832
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 3: probably not nearly like that, but just in case. Now listen,

1833
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 3: do you remember come Alt Santa Maria who hosted TVNZ

1834
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 3: Breakfast for all of about thirty two days. I wouldn't

1835
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 3: supposed if you don't remember him because it was a

1836
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 3: short stint. But anyway, that guy, he's taking TV and

1837
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 3: Z to the era over this. And he has now

1838
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 3: released a bunch of messages that his colleagues was sending

1839
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 3: about him. And the reason he's released it is to

1840
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,600
Speaker 3: illustrate that there was a significant level of host of

1841
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: animosity towards him. He got them via a Privacy Act request.

1842
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,240
Speaker 3: It's just these are not all of them. It's just

1843
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 3: a taste, but this is the kind of thing. There

1844
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 3: were comments about his race race somebody said, man, so

1845
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 3: many stories about the Niaina Carmel that's the Mardi word

1846
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 3: for Indian. Some obviously were not happy that he was

1847
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 3: hired instead of a Maori broadcaster. For example, where was

1848
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 3: the consultation, How can we align this appointment with the

1849
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 3: Maori strategy and see if there was a super Mali

1850
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 3: out there who we could have recruited. It's the kind

1851
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 3: of messages they're sending to each other. Somebody said it

1852
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,120
Speaker 3: had Kamal's dull fingerprints all over it. It was such

1853
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: shit tally. Somebody else said, O mg, Kamal sounds very camp.

1854
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 3: And then even after he left, somebody said, if I

1855
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 3: ever c Carmel sands Maria on the street, I will

1856
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 3: dot dot dot sounds cool, aim friendly, really welcoming.

1857
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 18: Wow.

1858
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 27: Headline's next, whether it's Macro microbe or just plain economics.

1859
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: It's all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy.

1860
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: Allen and Mas Insurance and investments, Grow your wealth, protect

1861
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: your future, use talks that'd be.

1862
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 8: I think Guylan Tomstone, where are no longer go?

1863
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:41,799
Speaker 3: And I want you run away now?

1864
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: Grow the persons.

1865
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 3: Bustard allegedly you know, fire bombing kir Starmer over in

1866
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 3: the UK. Turns out that person is Ukrainian Gavin Gray's

1867
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 3: gonna fill us in shortly. Heither, if you do that

1868
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,640
Speaker 3: and change your Red Joe, then you're gonna have to

1869
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 3: when you got to sell your car, you're gonna have

1870
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: to convince the potential buyer that your car was not

1871
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 3: written off. Well, there is that. That's a downside. Although

1872
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 3: I think if I tell them my amazing yarn about

1873
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 3: me versus the parking company, do you think they'll be

1874
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 3: sympathetic to that? They might come around. They might go,

1875
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 3: that's believable. Oh by your car. Anyway, look at wonderful Nikotin,

1876
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: except for how you've rimmed the wheels and scratched it

1877
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 3: all over and the kids of Yeah, it's a state

1878
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 3: twenty four away from seven. Ever, Peter Lewis, our Asia

1879
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 3: business correspondent, is with me right now, Hey, Peter, Good evening, Heather, Now,

1880
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 3: Peter on this US China trade war. This thing is

1881
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 3: settled down for ninety days. But is that all or

1882
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 3: is this the start of the end.

1883
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 28: I think there's still a long way to go. And

1884
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,759
Speaker 28: the way it's sort of been painted in social media

1885
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 28: and state media up in China is that this was

1886
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 28: a complete climbed down by Donald Trump. He agreed to

1887
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 28: reduce tarots by one hundred and fifteen percent. China matched that,

1888
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 28: but didn't have to do anything else whatsoever. And they

1889
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 28: probably do have a point because you have to say, well,

1890
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 28: what was the point of all of this to put

1891
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 28: all these tariffs on effectively and trade between the US

1892
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 28: and China, then take the tariffs off, but get no

1893
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 28: concessions whatsoever from China. And I think this is only

1894
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 28: just the beginning of what could happen over the next

1895
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:23,680
Speaker 28: ninety days. Already the US is talking about trying to

1896
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 28: blacklist some semiconductor companies in China and technology companies, which

1897
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 28: is going to irritate them immensely and makes it more

1898
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 28: difficult to have this discussion over the next ninety days.

1899
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 28: And what we have to remember is that there are

1900
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 28: still tariffs of thirty percent on China. So while they're

1901
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 28: not these devastating tariffs are one hundred and forty thirty percent,

1902
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 28: tariffs are still pretty high. So that is still going

1903
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 28: to damage trade between the two countries. And I think

1904
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 28: what's going to happen is that President Jjinping is going

1905
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 28: to do has been doing over the last few years,

1906
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 28: which is to create a global trading system that doesn't

1907
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 28: include the US. He will diversify exports away from the

1908
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,719
Speaker 28: US and rely far more on countries in the Middle East,

1909
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 28: in Southeast Asia, emerging markets, and he's already having some

1910
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 28: success in that. Columbia only last week agreed to join

1911
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 28: the Belton Roads Initiative, So already he's approaching a lot

1912
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 28: of these developing nations and looking to sell the goods

1913
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 28: that he would have sold to the US to those

1914
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 28: nations instead. And I think that process is only going

1915
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 28: to accelerate over the coming ninety days.

1916
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 3: Both sides claim that they have got the upper hand,

1917
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 3: But who do you think has got the upper hand here?

1918
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Speaker 20: Well, I mean they're both right to a certain extent,

1919
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 20: because this is damaging to China, for sure, and it

1920
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 20: has flowed its economy, and it has caused problems for

1921
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 20: its manufacturers, many of whom.

1922
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 28: Just can't survived with tariffs at that level. It puts

1923
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 28: pressure on the unemployment rate in China, which is a

1924
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 28: very sensitive issue domestically. So for sure, it called it

1925
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 28: has caused problems for China, but I think they're in

1926
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 28: a better position to withstand those problems. It's got a

1927
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 28: huge domestic market it's got many ways in which it

1928
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:28,920
Speaker 28: can diversify its economy, boost domestic consumption to try and

1929
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 28: offset the damage that's been done. Now the US, it's

1930
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,800
Speaker 28: also damaged its own economy. I mean, shipments to China

1931
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 28: have collapsed virtually down to zero to the US have

1932
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 28: collapsed virtually down to zero. And the issue for the

1933
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 28: US is that it likes to blame China and other

1934
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 28: countries for its trade deficits. But the reason why it

1935
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 28: has huge trade deficits is because its own citizens don't

1936
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Speaker 28: save enough and they want to buy all these goods

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Speaker 28: that China and other countries sell to them. They like them,

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Speaker 28: they want to pay for them, and that's what causes

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Speaker 28: the trade deficits. But it's going to be difficult for

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Speaker 28: the US as well because inflation will pick up over

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Speaker 28: the coming months. Retail sales are already slowing and we're

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Speaker 28: already seeing that in the latest data. So it's doing

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Speaker 28: damage to its own economy as well, but not getting

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Speaker 28: the benefits that Trump touted where all these manufacturers are

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Speaker 28: going to relocate to the US. We haven't seen very

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Speaker 28: much of that so far. Trump has also said we're

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Speaker 28: going to get huge revenues in from other countries to

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Speaker 28: play to pay for his tax cuts. Well, we're not

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Speaker 28: seeing signs of that either. So you know, he's put

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Speaker 28: these tariffs on, taken them off again, but not got

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Speaker 28: anywhere near close to getting all the benefits of those

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Speaker 28: tarots they touted in the first place.

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Speaker 3: The Trump the possible trade deal between Trump and Japan

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Speaker 3: is an interesting thing. Read the tariffs and the cars, right,

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Speaker 3: And I was reading about this as somebody made the

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Speaker 3: point that Trump thinks that Japan is a soft target.

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Speaker 3: Is he wrong?

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Speaker 28: Yeah, he is wrong, And if anything, Japan is rather

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Speaker 28: stealing for a longer font here. They don't think they're

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Speaker 28: going to get a deal in ninety days, and they're

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Speaker 28: absolutely adamant that tariffs on cars have to come off

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Speaker 28: as part of that deal. It's two big exports to

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Speaker 28: the US, auto's and agricultural products. They are both two

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Speaker 28: very very sensitive issues for Japan. Prime Minister Ashiba has

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Speaker 28: got an election coming up very soon, and his popularity

1966
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Speaker 28: has already plunged to below thirty percent, So he's got

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Speaker 28: a lot of domestic issues and he can't afford to

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Speaker 28: back down and give in on the two largest sectors

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Speaker 28: of exports to the US, So I think it's going

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Speaker 28: to be very, very difficult for Trump to get this

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Speaker 28: deal with Japan. I think it's also a very similar

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Speaker 28: situation for Indio. India also seems to be drawing a

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Speaker 28: line now as well. So these imminent trade deals that

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Speaker 28: Trump has touted with countries like Japan, South Korea, India,

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Speaker 28: I think are going to be struggle to get done

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Speaker 28: within the ninety days.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Hey, Peter, it's always lovely to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We'll talk to you in a

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Speaker 3: week and enjoy your weekend. That's Peter Lewis, our Asia

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Speaker 3: business correspondent. Hate tell you what has been a time

1981
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Speaker 3: of late for Brentwith news has just come in that

1982
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Speaker 3: two executives from Bremworth are leaving the business next week.

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Speaker 3: This is the chief operating Officer Nicholas Simpson and also

1984
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Speaker 3: the chief Brand and Product Officer Rashelle Flint. Apparently they

1985
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Speaker 3: have been reported by business desks both of them have

1986
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Speaker 3: resigned in Their last days will be next Thursday. Now,

1987
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Speaker 3: this comes after the departure of Greg Smith, the chief

1988
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Speaker 3: executive last month and Brentworth doing a massive about turn

1989
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Speaker 3: on the old synthetic carpets and after absolutely trashing synthetic

1990
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Speaker 3: carpets in the media and in their ad campaigns and stuff.

1991
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Speaker 3: Guess what's back synthetic carpets seventeen where from seven everything.

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Speaker 2: From his ms to the big corporates, The Business Hour

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Speaker 2: with Heather Duplic Ellen and Mayor's Insurance and Investments, Grow

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Speaker 2: Your Wealth, Protect Your Future.

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Speaker 1: News talks Envy.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Gray are UK correspondent is with me now, Hey Gevin?

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Speaker 1: Hi there? Hell?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So this chap is about appear in courtsy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Roman lavernoritch is his name is a Ukrainian national.

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Speaker 4: He's twenty one and has been charged in connection with

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Speaker 4: fires at two properties and a car linked to our

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Speaker 4: Prime Minister Sakir Starmer. Now he's been charged with three

2003
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Speaker 4: counts of arson with intent to endanger life. He was

2004
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Speaker 4: arrested in southeast London in the early hours of Tuesday

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Speaker 4: and we expect him at Westminster Magistrate's Court in the

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Speaker 4: heart of London in the next couple of hours. The

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Speaker 4: charges relate to three instances. So there was a vehicle

2008
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Speaker 4: fire in Kentish Town in North London. This was a

2009
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Speaker 4: vehicle that Sekir Starmer had sold before he became Prime

2010
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Speaker 4: Minister to a neighbour. Then there was a at the

2011
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Speaker 4: Prime Minister's private home on the same street. He no

2012
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Speaker 4: longer is living there because although he owns it, it's

2013
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Speaker 4: said to be rented out.

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Speaker 1: He of course lives at the official address.

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Speaker 4: In Downing Street. And then there was a fire at

2016
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Speaker 4: an address that he had previously lived at in Northwest

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Speaker 4: London but no longer owned, but that involved fire officers

2018
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Speaker 4: having to help people down the staircase using breathing apparatus. Anyway,

2019
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Speaker 4: the Metropolitan Police's counter Terrorism Command unit is looking at

2020
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Speaker 4: this due to links to a high profile figure. That's

2021
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Speaker 4: all wea're being told at the moment. We may get

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Speaker 4: one or two more details in court.

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Speaker 3: All very interesting. And now this chief suspect in Medler

2024
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Speaker 3: McCain's disappearance is coming out of jail how much later

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Speaker 3: than originally shield.

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Speaker 4: Well, Christian Bruckner is his name. We thought he was

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Speaker 4: coming out of jail in September, but that's been pushed

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Speaker 4: back to early next year. Why does that make a difference, Well,

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Speaker 4: because he is wanted for questioning about the Maddie McCann case.

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Speaker 4: Of course, Madeline McCann disappeared in Portugal with a fan

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Speaker 4: only holiday prior to lusion that resort there in two

2032
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Speaker 4: thousand and seven. Now the fear is that when Christian

2033
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Speaker 4: Bruckner is released from prison, he will leave the country

2034
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Speaker 4: and go underground and basically disappear. He is a man

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Speaker 4: with a very very checkered history. He's currently in prison

2036
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Speaker 4: convicted of raping a seventy two year old American tourist

2037
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Speaker 4: in Portugal in two thousand and five, just two years

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Speaker 4: before Maddie McCown's disappearance. But he also has a number

2039
01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 4: of other past misdemeanors where he has been sentenced as

2040
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Speaker 4: a child sex offender, forgery, drug theft, defense is a

2041
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Speaker 4: history of sex offenses and a drifter being lived in

2042
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Speaker 4: Portugal's Algarve region on and off for years. To be clear,

2043
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Speaker 4: he has never been charged with anything in connection with

2044
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Speaker 4: Maddie McCann. He equally says he's had nothing to do

2045
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Speaker 4: with it. But he also has had a conviction overturned.

2046
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Speaker 4: As it were, he was found not guilty of three

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Speaker 4: counts of rape and two counts of child sex abuse

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Speaker 4: and police are hoping to get an appeal underway for

2049
01:33:05,520 --> 01:33:07,759
Speaker 4: that and the best way of doing that is, knowing

2050
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 4: that he is already behind bars, so it looks like

2051
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Speaker 4: he's going to stay there until January. And this believed

2052
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Speaker 4: or not over an unpaid fine.

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Speaker 3: Kevin. So, why is it that the people who were

2054
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 3: on board that luxury yacht that tipped over, why didn't

2055
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:20,760
Speaker 3: they know that the wind could do that?

2056
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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a very very good question.

2057
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Speaker 4: So there is an investigation underway into the death of

2058
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Speaker 4: the seven people, including the man called sort of Britain's

2059
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 4: Bill Gates, the entrepreneur Mike Lynch, a billionaire, and six

2060
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Speaker 4: other people. And they were off the coast of Sicily

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Speaker 4: when their luxury super yacht sunk in August last year.

2062
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Speaker 4: So there is an investigation underway and they are also

2063
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 4: in the process of raising the boat now. The interim

2064
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:54,759
Speaker 4: report being conducted by the UK's Marine Accident Investigation Branch,

2065
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 4: that is because the yacht was registered in the UK,

2066
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Speaker 4: says that wins of eighty miles an hour roughly one

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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty two kilometers per hour violently hit the vessel,

2068
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Speaker 4: causing it to flood within seconds. There had been questions

2069
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,320
Speaker 4: about where the windows had been open and the hatch

2070
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 4: had been left open, but actually this injuring report suggests no.

2071
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 4: It suggests that the yacht was not to a ninety

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Speaker 4: degree angle within fifteen seconds. At four in the morning.

2073
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 4: The crew heard there was a storm on the way

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Speaker 4: and were busy trying to prepare for that, but simply

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Speaker 4: didn't have time. Some pretty harrowing evidence as well about

2076
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 4: how those on boarder tries to use furniture as a

2077
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 4: ladder to try and get out of their cabins, but

2078
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 4: as we know, so many did not succeed, although fifteen

2079
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 4: people did manage to escape. But nevertheless, how more details

2080
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 4: coming out about how this operation to raise the fifty

2081
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 4: six meter vessel will be conducted.

2082
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Speaker 3: Kevin, look after you seem joy a weekend. We'll talk

2083
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 3: to you next week. This Kevin Gray, UK correspondent. By

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01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:57,080
Speaker 3: the way, okay, if you have been hanging out for

2085
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 3: these ear taxis, you know the ability to catch an

2086
01:34:59,240 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 3: ear aplane like an you may get your chance. There's

2087
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 3: a caveat here, but you may get your chance in

2088
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,679
Speaker 3: three years. Because the committee that's setting up the Ala

2089
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 3: Games for twenty twenty eight has signed a partnership with

2090
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 3: Archer Aviation and they reckon they're going to be able

2091
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 3: to provide an air taxi service at the Ala Games

2092
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty eight, and they say, basically, what you're

2093
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 3: going to be able to do is jump on one

2094
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,719
Speaker 3: of these little things. It's a picture of it. It's

2095
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 3: just like what it looks like is basically like a

2096
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,719
Speaker 3: little helicopter with a gigantic tail and then a whole

2097
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 3: bunch more rotary blades. Was that what they called anyway, Yeah,

2098
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,719
Speaker 3: it's about four of those blades, four little and instead

2099
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 3: of just the one that the older helicopter's got. Anyway,

2100
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 3: you can jump on one of these things, you can

2101
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 3: fly between ten and twenty minutes, and you can avoid

2102
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 3: Allai's notorious traffic. The only trouble two bits of trouble

2103
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 3: we've got here. Number one, we do not know how

2104
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 3: much this is going to cost, and let me tell

2105
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 3: you it's not going to be in the same ballpark

2106
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 3: as an uber ride. And number two, these things were

2107
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 3: planned to debut the Paris Games last year, but we're

2108
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 3: not certified by Europe's Air Safety Agency in time, so

2109
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna happen maybe with an asterisk eight away from seven.

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01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:12,759
Speaker 1: It's the heather Toople.

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Speaker 2: See Alan Drive Full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: Newstalk zb.

2113
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Speaker 3: Okay, So I did it. So I did it today.

2114
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 3: I was saying to you yesterday I wasn't sure if

2115
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 3: I was going to be able to do the teams,

2116
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 3: and I did the teams today with I just want

2117
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Speaker 3: to update you that my life is not a complete mess.

2118
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. I did do the teams. I

2119
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 3: got a little bit confused because then when I because

2120
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Speaker 3: first of all, jeez, I hate the stuff that they

2121
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 3: do to yourn Do you have this stuff on the mbox?

2122
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 3: This is why Erica used Gmail because I went I

2123
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 3: went into my work mbox because I thought, ok, I'm

2124
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 3: gonna get rid of got this big meeting and there's

2125
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 3: gonna be a CEO there, and I just don't want

2126
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Speaker 3: to embarrass myself, right, So I've got to be ready

2127
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Speaker 3: for it in advance. Right, So put the baby to

2128
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 3: bed and I was like, Okay, here we go, Here

2129
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 3: we go. And I went to log into the email

2130
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Speaker 3: account and immediately it was like, yeah, sorry, can you

2131
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 3: see the number? And I was like, no, I can't

2132
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Speaker 3: see the number. I don't know, I can't see the number.

2133
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Speaker 3: There's no number. Can you send me a text? And

2134
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,120
Speaker 3: then it was like, no, can you see the number?

2135
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 3: I was like, no, I can't see the number. Can

2136
01:37:10,360 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 3: you send me the text? I'm like, can you see

2137
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Speaker 3: the number? And so I was like, Okay, restart the phone,

2138
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 3: try this again. Then I got through with the text.

2139
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 3: So I got into my emails because you had to

2140
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 3: get into the emails to get to the calendar where

2141
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 3: the invitation was so that you could click on the

2142
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Speaker 3: things so you could join the team's meeting. Do you

2143
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean? This is like a whole kerfuffle,

2144
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 3: like they're trying to trip you up all the way.

2145
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 3: So I click on the thing and then it goes

2146
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 3: would you like to download Microsoft Edge or something? And

2147
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Speaker 3: I was like, I don't know what that is. I

2148
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Speaker 3: downloaded teams last night. So anyway, long story short, they

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Speaker 3: tried they tested me, They tested me the Internet, and

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Speaker 3: I'll passed the test and I was part of the

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Speaker 3: team's meeting and well.

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Speaker 6: Done, had a very good job.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: That was very sneaky Microsoft trying to get an edge

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Speaker 11: in there.

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Speaker 3: Did you like, you don't understand the sense because you're

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Speaker 3: technologically savvy, But every boomer out there understands what I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about. Just managing to make it to the meeting

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Speaker 3: is an achieved.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, absolutely, and it's a real shame after you

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Speaker 11: put all that work into clearer in box not that

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Speaker 11: long ago as well, and get through all the emails,

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Speaker 11: it's still clear. Yeah, yeah, that's right, and now your

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Speaker 11: email is giving your grief again. It really just seemed

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Speaker 11: very unfair. Thank you Bada bas two to play us

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Speaker 11: out tonight. This is Sweden's entry into Eurovision by Kai

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Speaker 11: and the bookies all have this one winning.

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Speaker 3: Do you find that what that called kai? Not kaj?

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 11: I had to look this up on Wikipedia and according

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Speaker 11: to Wikipedia, you pronounce it kai.

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Speaker 3: Did you also know by the way that they're Sweden's entry,

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Speaker 3: but they're taking the piss out.

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Speaker 11: Of the Finish, right Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And Sulas are from Finland?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, And are they from Finland as well? I think

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Speaker 11: they might they might be from they are they are

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Speaker 11: from Finland, but they do songs in Swedish. And because

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Speaker 11: this is the thing that I found out when I

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Speaker 11: got into Eurovision last year, was that you don't actually

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Speaker 11: have to be from the country, and indeed you don't

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Speaker 11: have to have any link to the country at all.

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Speaker 11: They can just be like, oh, that's just like.

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Speaker 3: The America's Cup.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, basically, yeah, it is exactly like the America's Cup anyway.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, if you want to watch, it's on on

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Speaker 11: Sunday morning, the final and you can stream it on

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Speaker 11: YouTube for free.

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Speaker 3: And thank you so much.

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Speaker 11: That's of course, if you can get through the auto indicator,

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Speaker 11: get through.

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Speaker 3: The internets to get to her. See you on Monday.

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