1 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:10,587 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,747 --> 00:00:11,547 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,627 --> 00:00:11,827 Speaker 2: Ed b. 4 00:00:13,627 --> 00:00:17,347 Speaker 3: A standout for the Hurricanes this season, mainly recently in 5 00:00:17,387 --> 00:00:20,707 Speaker 3: an impact role has been loosed forward Duplicy Cardiffee Judd 6 00:00:20,787 --> 00:00:24,307 Speaker 3: to the right. Inside Cardiffy is over for the try. 7 00:00:24,787 --> 00:00:25,907 Speaker 1: You cannot keep. 8 00:00:25,787 --> 00:00:28,147 Speaker 3: Him out of the action. Duplicity Cordifi with us on 9 00:00:28,187 --> 00:00:30,227 Speaker 3: game day. Thankstops for taking the time for a chat. 10 00:00:30,707 --> 00:00:33,467 Speaker 3: Has it been possible to treat this week the same 11 00:00:33,507 --> 00:00:36,987 Speaker 3: as as a regular season week or or are you, 12 00:00:37,067 --> 00:00:40,987 Speaker 3: in fact instead embracing the size of this occasion. 13 00:00:42,387 --> 00:00:44,987 Speaker 2: That's a true, that's a good question. I was thinking 14 00:00:44,987 --> 00:00:50,347 Speaker 2: about us last night and nah, nothing, nothing's really changed 15 00:00:50,387 --> 00:00:53,707 Speaker 2: for us. You know, we don't want we don't want 16 00:00:55,107 --> 00:00:57,267 Speaker 2: the boys to do anything differently that they would have 17 00:00:57,307 --> 00:01:00,107 Speaker 2: than they would have done, you know, last week or 18 00:01:00,107 --> 00:01:01,907 Speaker 2: the week before or at the start of the season. 19 00:01:01,987 --> 00:01:05,387 Speaker 2: So routine has been a really important part of our year. 20 00:01:05,867 --> 00:01:09,707 Speaker 2: Keeping the same You're obviously looking at it through a 21 00:01:09,707 --> 00:01:16,627 Speaker 2: different lens, and it's obviously a different level of pressure 22 00:01:16,667 --> 00:01:18,707 Speaker 2: that comes with being in a semi final and went 23 00:01:18,747 --> 00:01:21,267 Speaker 2: at home in there. But now for the most part, 24 00:01:21,267 --> 00:01:26,627 Speaker 2: we're just treating another like another week off the field. 25 00:01:26,667 --> 00:01:31,627 Speaker 2: On the field, definitely a raising intensity, but like I say, 26 00:01:31,347 --> 00:01:35,347 Speaker 2: if we do things too differently and we might be 27 00:01:35,507 --> 00:01:38,347 Speaker 2: from the path. So just trying our best to keep 28 00:01:38,387 --> 00:01:42,547 Speaker 2: things functional and keep things normal and relaxed. Especially for 29 00:01:42,627 --> 00:01:45,947 Speaker 2: a younger playing group. We don't want them to you know, 30 00:01:46,347 --> 00:01:51,627 Speaker 2: shoot their load too early. So yeah, it's come, come, 31 00:01:51,707 --> 00:01:52,827 Speaker 2: feeling and camp at the moment. 32 00:01:54,107 --> 00:01:56,707 Speaker 3: I can't think of a player who has made more 33 00:01:56,787 --> 00:01:59,907 Speaker 3: impact off the bench this season than you have when 34 00:01:59,947 --> 00:02:04,347 Speaker 3: you've played that role. How do you how do you 35 00:02:04,427 --> 00:02:07,587 Speaker 3: approach that role when when you're handed it at the 36 00:02:07,587 --> 00:02:08,267 Speaker 3: start of the week. 37 00:02:09,907 --> 00:02:14,627 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think as competitive and you know, people 38 00:02:14,627 --> 00:02:17,307 Speaker 2: who are always wanting to put the best go forward. 39 00:02:19,227 --> 00:02:22,427 Speaker 2: The first part of being told you're on the bench 40 00:02:22,507 --> 00:02:25,507 Speaker 2: is actually accepting the fact that you're not in the 41 00:02:25,547 --> 00:02:30,067 Speaker 2: starting group. And that's not to say you know, you're 42 00:02:30,067 --> 00:02:34,227 Speaker 2: not as important, but it can be frustrating. So having 43 00:02:34,227 --> 00:02:35,867 Speaker 2: to deal with that has been a massive part of 44 00:02:35,907 --> 00:02:39,187 Speaker 2: my journey this year, as we know. But then once 45 00:02:39,227 --> 00:02:42,547 Speaker 2: you put your own ego aside and you start to 46 00:02:42,587 --> 00:02:44,307 Speaker 2: look at what you can do best for the team, 47 00:02:45,267 --> 00:02:49,547 Speaker 2: and that's whether you're starting benching or not playing as well. Yeah, 48 00:02:49,587 --> 00:02:50,987 Speaker 2: you can really look to heat the best out of 49 00:02:50,987 --> 00:02:53,467 Speaker 2: grown performance. And I really enjoyed coming off the bench. 50 00:02:53,507 --> 00:02:57,627 Speaker 2: I know, for example, I'm not going to be getting 51 00:02:58,427 --> 00:03:02,187 Speaker 2: eighty minutes. I've got a shorter period to have a 52 00:03:02,187 --> 00:03:05,067 Speaker 2: positive impact on the game, and that means that, you know, 53 00:03:05,067 --> 00:03:09,387 Speaker 2: I'll have plenty of juice in this the whole time. 54 00:03:09,507 --> 00:03:14,467 Speaker 2: So when I come on twenty five five minutes, I 55 00:03:14,507 --> 00:03:17,267 Speaker 2: know that I've got, you know, a short amount of 56 00:03:17,267 --> 00:03:20,587 Speaker 2: time to just absolutely endy it. And I think that 57 00:03:20,707 --> 00:03:22,467 Speaker 2: just helps me along with being clear on what I'm 58 00:03:22,467 --> 00:03:25,747 Speaker 2: trying to do, you know, have a positive impact on 59 00:03:25,787 --> 00:03:27,707 Speaker 2: the game and how the boys and whatever way I can. 60 00:03:27,747 --> 00:03:32,667 Speaker 2: But I've actually really enjoyed my role this year and 61 00:03:33,587 --> 00:03:36,307 Speaker 2: sound like I've had a lot of fun, to be honest. 62 00:03:37,787 --> 00:03:41,587 Speaker 3: Something else that I've noticed, You've always sailed pretty close 63 00:03:41,627 --> 00:03:43,907 Speaker 3: to the line at the breakdown, sometimes over that line, 64 00:03:44,347 --> 00:03:47,867 Speaker 3: But I don't remember you giving away as many penalties 65 00:03:47,907 --> 00:03:51,467 Speaker 3: this season as previously. Have you changed your approach slightly 66 00:03:51,547 --> 00:03:52,227 Speaker 3: in that in that. 67 00:03:52,227 --> 00:03:58,387 Speaker 2: Area, yeah, I have. I think last year the last 68 00:03:58,387 --> 00:04:04,387 Speaker 2: two seasons, I you know, didn't give away as manyffenity 69 00:04:04,507 --> 00:04:06,707 Speaker 2: as my first couple of seasons, but this I think 70 00:04:06,707 --> 00:04:12,027 Speaker 2: I've only given away you know, three or four at 71 00:04:12,067 --> 00:04:17,027 Speaker 2: the breakdown all year. So yeah, I have changed my approach. 72 00:04:17,107 --> 00:04:19,227 Speaker 2: I think it comes with maturity, Bindsy. I think it 73 00:04:19,347 --> 00:04:22,587 Speaker 2: just comes from seeing the pictures a bit better than 74 00:04:22,587 --> 00:04:24,867 Speaker 2: I used to when I when I was when I 75 00:04:24,907 --> 00:04:26,947 Speaker 2: was a younger man, I was just like a bull 76 00:04:27,027 --> 00:04:29,987 Speaker 2: in a china shop. And I think my ego, I 77 00:04:30,067 --> 00:04:31,707 Speaker 2: think my ego got in the way a little bit. 78 00:04:31,827 --> 00:04:33,947 Speaker 2: I just looked at everything and thought, yeah, I can 79 00:04:33,987 --> 00:04:37,067 Speaker 2: get there. And you know, at times, as we know, 80 00:04:37,107 --> 00:04:40,347 Speaker 2: that was through mine, my teens the mind. So nah, 81 00:04:40,627 --> 00:04:42,827 Speaker 2: just yeah, I see the pictures clearly down and we've 82 00:04:42,867 --> 00:04:44,867 Speaker 2: got great coaches that have helped me out along the way, 83 00:04:44,907 --> 00:04:49,187 Speaker 2: and you know, Corey, Jane and and Clark. It's done 84 00:04:49,227 --> 00:04:53,947 Speaker 2: a great job of talking to us about not popping 85 00:04:53,947 --> 00:04:56,827 Speaker 2: the balloon for the team per se and and applying 86 00:04:56,867 --> 00:05:01,747 Speaker 2: pressure unneeded pressure on our direction. So yeah, I uh, yeah, 87 00:05:02,147 --> 00:05:04,907 Speaker 2: you're right. I haven't given away as indipenities this here, 88 00:05:04,947 --> 00:05:07,107 Speaker 2: and it's probably a good thing. 89 00:05:07,987 --> 00:05:11,227 Speaker 3: Absolutely. You're part of a really impressive group of loose 90 00:05:11,227 --> 00:05:14,267 Speaker 3: forwards at the Hurricanes head Brave Andy on the show 91 00:05:14,427 --> 00:05:16,307 Speaker 3: on head Brave and Yosie. On the show last week 92 00:05:16,307 --> 00:05:19,947 Speaker 3: he called you the wolf pack. How connected are you 93 00:05:20,027 --> 00:05:22,267 Speaker 3: as a as a group of loose forwards. You talked 94 00:05:22,267 --> 00:05:24,627 Speaker 3: before about you know, needing to play whatever role is 95 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:27,627 Speaker 3: handed to you. How connected are the loose forward cohort 96 00:05:27,907 --> 00:05:28,747 Speaker 3: at the Hurricanes. 97 00:05:31,187 --> 00:05:37,307 Speaker 2: Yeah, We're pretty We're a pretty tight knit group. I'm glad. 98 00:05:38,507 --> 00:05:40,987 Speaker 2: I'm bloody proud to be a part of our loose 99 00:05:41,027 --> 00:05:45,347 Speaker 2: forward's chairman only because you know, we have a lot 100 00:05:45,427 --> 00:05:48,107 Speaker 2: to offer. But I just love seeing their growth and 101 00:05:48,147 --> 00:05:53,107 Speaker 2: the young boys. I'm not saying I'm no vetteran, but 102 00:05:53,907 --> 00:05:57,467 Speaker 2: you know, Brave, dev p t K Howden or younger 103 00:05:57,507 --> 00:06:00,507 Speaker 2: than me, and the see them just excel us here 104 00:06:01,467 --> 00:06:03,347 Speaker 2: on and off the field. Has just been a pleasure 105 00:06:03,387 --> 00:06:07,707 Speaker 2: to watch, so to here the likes of Brandon there 106 00:06:07,747 --> 00:06:11,907 Speaker 2: as well. It's just yeah, that's It's been one of 107 00:06:11,907 --> 00:06:14,547 Speaker 2: the most favorable parts of the year and the season 108 00:06:14,667 --> 00:06:17,027 Speaker 2: is just getting to work with these boys who have 109 00:06:17,227 --> 00:06:19,667 Speaker 2: bucket loads of talents. More tell them that I have 110 00:06:19,787 --> 00:06:24,227 Speaker 2: in my left pinky. 111 00:06:23,187 --> 00:06:25,427 Speaker 3: I think so. 112 00:06:27,387 --> 00:06:29,227 Speaker 2: The more talent in their pinky than I do in 113 00:06:29,227 --> 00:06:33,547 Speaker 2: my whole wading. But so yeah, just we bring the 114 00:06:33,587 --> 00:06:35,867 Speaker 2: best out in each other. We want to see each 115 00:06:35,907 --> 00:06:39,427 Speaker 2: other do well and when we when that happens, you know, 116 00:06:39,507 --> 00:06:43,067 Speaker 2: we we put it down to the group work, which 117 00:06:43,227 --> 00:06:47,427 Speaker 2: is and obviously how hard the individuals working. But they're 118 00:06:47,467 --> 00:06:49,907 Speaker 2: really enjoying the season with these boys there, great bunch 119 00:06:49,947 --> 00:06:50,627 Speaker 2: of boys. 120 00:06:51,187 --> 00:06:53,827 Speaker 3: You're part of a six to two split on the 121 00:06:53,827 --> 00:06:56,147 Speaker 3: bench for this game. What does that tell us about 122 00:06:56,627 --> 00:06:59,507 Speaker 3: about the way that the Hurricanes you like to likely 123 00:06:59,547 --> 00:07:01,867 Speaker 3: to approach this with the with the six to two 124 00:07:01,907 --> 00:07:03,947 Speaker 3: split in the impact place. 125 00:07:06,547 --> 00:07:09,507 Speaker 2: I think it's just it's a lot at the physicality 126 00:07:09,547 --> 00:07:11,867 Speaker 2: of the Chiefs and how big their board packers to 127 00:07:11,947 --> 00:07:16,627 Speaker 2: be there, as well as trusting our backs. You know, 128 00:07:16,667 --> 00:07:18,907 Speaker 2: with only two on the bench, we we're obviously putting 129 00:07:18,947 --> 00:07:22,787 Speaker 2: a lot of trust in our backs to do their 130 00:07:22,867 --> 00:07:27,307 Speaker 2: job well and do it and do it accurately. And yeah, 131 00:07:27,347 --> 00:07:29,427 Speaker 2: I think we're just trying to pack a little bit 132 00:07:29,427 --> 00:07:31,627 Speaker 2: more far power for the end of the game so 133 00:07:31,627 --> 00:07:35,387 Speaker 2: that we can, you know, meet fire with fire and 134 00:07:35,467 --> 00:07:38,187 Speaker 2: go to the total of this big, big chief sports pack. 135 00:07:38,227 --> 00:07:40,227 Speaker 2: We know they have a lot to offer and they 136 00:07:40,307 --> 00:07:45,387 Speaker 2: themselves are some outstanding loose boards who we're looking forward 137 00:07:45,427 --> 00:07:46,507 Speaker 2: to going up against. The game. 138 00:07:47,867 --> 00:07:49,747 Speaker 3: It was a sad sight to see Xavi and and 139 00:07:49,827 --> 00:07:53,147 Speaker 3: Mia depart the field last weekend against the Rebels with 140 00:07:53,147 --> 00:07:55,707 Speaker 3: what turned out to be a reasonably serious calf injury. 141 00:07:56,187 --> 00:07:58,907 Speaker 3: How gotting to lose such a key player at the 142 00:07:58,947 --> 00:08:03,147 Speaker 3: business end for you guys, Yeah, it's just. 143 00:08:04,947 --> 00:08:07,787 Speaker 2: As we know by the all part of the sport. 144 00:08:08,467 --> 00:08:11,427 Speaker 2: You know, no matter what level you played, injuries, I think, 145 00:08:12,307 --> 00:08:15,787 Speaker 2: and they can affect anyone. But just guting for my friend. 146 00:08:17,667 --> 00:08:20,667 Speaker 2: He was having one of those seasons the y you'll 147 00:08:20,707 --> 00:08:27,587 Speaker 2: never forget. And there's no I don't believe he won't 148 00:08:27,587 --> 00:08:30,787 Speaker 2: come back better and stronger. It's just unfortunate the timing. 149 00:08:31,347 --> 00:08:34,227 Speaker 2: I don't really feel for him. I know he's you know, 150 00:08:34,267 --> 00:08:36,467 Speaker 2: he'll be got to he'll be got to to be 151 00:08:36,507 --> 00:08:39,147 Speaker 2: missing out on the rest of the season, and and 152 00:08:39,387 --> 00:08:44,027 Speaker 2: and now I'll just say what I'm thinking, but I'm 153 00:08:44,027 --> 00:08:45,667 Speaker 2: sure a lot of other people were thinking. I know 154 00:08:45,787 --> 00:08:48,547 Speaker 2: he was, you know, going to go close to higher honors. 155 00:08:48,547 --> 00:08:51,867 Speaker 2: So just really good for him after the year he 156 00:08:51,987 --> 00:08:54,987 Speaker 2: was having to just have to bow out like that. 157 00:08:55,027 --> 00:08:58,347 Speaker 2: But yeah, looking forward to seeing what he does over 158 00:08:58,387 --> 00:09:00,627 Speaker 2: the next few weeks with his recovery in his rehab 159 00:09:00,667 --> 00:09:03,187 Speaker 2: and you know it'll be good to have him back 160 00:09:03,227 --> 00:09:05,907 Speaker 2: on the field at some stage. But feeling for him, 161 00:09:05,907 --> 00:09:08,147 Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I know he was looking forward to 162 00:09:08,187 --> 00:09:10,667 Speaker 2: contributing this weekend like he has been all year. It's 163 00:09:10,707 --> 00:09:11,267 Speaker 2: been amazing. 164 00:09:11,507 --> 00:09:14,507 Speaker 3: Indeed, you have been in the chiefs twice this season. 165 00:09:14,867 --> 00:09:17,907 Speaker 3: Anything from those two games that's that's useful in a 166 00:09:18,027 --> 00:09:19,987 Speaker 3: in a knockout situation or not. 167 00:09:22,387 --> 00:09:28,387 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I understand in one of them. But yeah, 168 00:09:28,387 --> 00:09:30,907 Speaker 2: as you know, sees a big pack with a pretty 169 00:09:30,907 --> 00:09:36,027 Speaker 2: slick backline there are Yeah, the backs of their backs 170 00:09:36,067 --> 00:09:39,187 Speaker 2: are the goods, and fifty forwards can do a job. 171 00:09:39,267 --> 00:09:41,307 Speaker 2: Then we know that the becks are going to be 172 00:09:41,347 --> 00:09:44,547 Speaker 2: a handful for us. So mentioned earlier, we've got to 173 00:09:44,587 --> 00:09:49,747 Speaker 2: meet fire or fire in terms of the forwards, and yeah, 174 00:09:49,747 --> 00:09:53,667 Speaker 2: it's just gotta sit lightly when the backs get the 175 00:09:53,707 --> 00:09:58,427 Speaker 2: ball only dragged into all of their moves and cut 176 00:09:58,467 --> 00:10:00,627 Speaker 2: the shreds. So looking forward to their challenge. We know 177 00:10:00,707 --> 00:10:03,027 Speaker 2: that they've probably got a few things up their sleep, 178 00:10:04,747 --> 00:10:06,707 Speaker 2: you know, a little bit of five pound that they've 179 00:10:06,707 --> 00:10:10,187 Speaker 2: saved for the semi. So looking forward to it, looking 180 00:10:10,227 --> 00:10:12,627 Speaker 2: forward to looking forward to the. 181 00:10:12,627 --> 00:10:16,387 Speaker 3: Challenge in big crowd coming this afternoon, dope. So over 182 00:10:16,507 --> 00:10:19,787 Speaker 3: thirty thousand on the away the sky Stadium for this game. 183 00:10:19,827 --> 00:10:21,827 Speaker 3: How much you're looking forward to feeding off their energy. 184 00:10:23,587 --> 00:10:25,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be, not gonna lie. It's gonna be 185 00:10:25,587 --> 00:10:27,787 Speaker 2: nice to see a few less yellow seats this week 186 00:10:27,827 --> 00:10:31,827 Speaker 2: in Well we never o well We sky Stadium is 187 00:10:31,827 --> 00:10:35,027 Speaker 2: a mess of stadium, as you though, and we know 188 00:10:35,107 --> 00:10:38,507 Speaker 2: the energy has been building all years so too, I 189 00:10:38,507 --> 00:10:42,067 Speaker 2: guess for reward our loyal fans and the community down 190 00:10:42,107 --> 00:10:44,827 Speaker 2: here in Lower and Lower off Ireland will sit with 191 00:10:44,907 --> 00:10:49,507 Speaker 2: a home semi final. You know, it's huge for us. 192 00:10:49,707 --> 00:10:54,467 Speaker 2: We we're really proud of the loyal fans that we 193 00:10:54,547 --> 00:10:56,987 Speaker 2: do have. So to see a few more of this 194 00:10:57,067 --> 00:10:59,467 Speaker 2: week in I thought, what's been a pretty good season 195 00:10:59,747 --> 00:11:02,307 Speaker 2: by all means will be a cool thing. And I 196 00:11:02,347 --> 00:11:04,587 Speaker 2: know the boys will be feeding up all of that 197 00:11:04,787 --> 00:11:08,027 Speaker 2: energy during the war up, so it's exciting. I know 198 00:11:08,027 --> 00:11:10,187 Speaker 2: a lot of boys. This will be their biggest current 199 00:11:10,187 --> 00:11:13,627 Speaker 2: that I played in front of, so it's an exciting occasion. 200 00:11:13,987 --> 00:11:15,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, can't wait, mate, can't wait, Doup. It's great to 201 00:11:16,027 --> 00:11:18,067 Speaker 3: get the chance to chat to you. I hope everything 202 00:11:18,067 --> 00:11:21,627 Speaker 3: goes well and you earn yourself one more Monday. Great 203 00:11:21,667 --> 00:11:22,707 Speaker 3: to chat to you as always. 204 00:11:22,507 --> 00:11:26,067 Speaker 2: Mate, that's the one finding thanks made always a pleasure. 205 00:11:26,227 --> 00:11:28,787 Speaker 3: Great to chat do, Plassey, Thank you, du Plas Kalifi there. 206 00:11:29,027 --> 00:11:30,867 Speaker 3: He'll come off the bench as part of a six 207 00:11:31,027 --> 00:11:33,347 Speaker 3: two split for the Hurricanes this afternoon against the Chiefs 208 00:11:33,347 --> 00:11:37,707 Speaker 3: four thirty five sky Stadium, Gold Sport and iHeartRadio for 209 00:11:37,747 --> 00:11:38,347 Speaker 3: the commentary. 210 00:11:38,387 --> 00:11:41,947 Speaker 1: If for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen 211 00:11:42,067 --> 00:11:45,267 Speaker 1: live to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or 212 00:11:45,387 --> 00:11:47,307 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio