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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at b s Night Your weekend off

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Speaker 1: the right way. Saturday Morning with jackdam News Talks at b.

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Speaker 2: More in a good morning, Welcome to News Talks v

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Speaker 2: Jack Tae with you through the midday today. Heart Throb Alert,

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Speaker 2: heart Throb Alert, Saunder Claxon. After ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 2: our feature interview is none other than bona fide key Wee,

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Speaker 2: Hollywood star and heart Throb. Yep, Carl Luban is going

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Speaker 2: to be with us right after ten. He's been all

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Speaker 2: sorts of amazing productions of late. He's had five seasons

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Speaker 2: on The Boys, which has had ridiculous international success. That's

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Speaker 2: about to wrap up. But he's got a brand new

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Speaker 2: film called The Bluff in which he's starring alongside Prianka

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Speaker 2: Chopra Jones. So he's gonna tell us a bit more

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Speaker 2: about that after ten o'clock this morning. Massive Day for

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Speaker 2: one went. Last night split ends of course, kicking things off.

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Speaker 2: Dom Dollar is kicking is the headliner tonight. Is it

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Speaker 2: wrong to admit that I personally have a bit of

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Speaker 2: a soft spot for Kesher. She's performing this evening, you

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Speaker 2: know tek Ta Kan Yeah? Anyway, Kesha is performing this

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Speaker 2: evening at Electric av They're expecting tens of thousands, so

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Speaker 2: really looking forward to that as well. Right now it

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Speaker 2: is eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack Team.

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Speaker 2: For my stage and profession, I consider myself about PA

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Speaker 2: when it comes to technology, So I'm by no means

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Speaker 2: a tech geek, but I know the difference between an

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Speaker 2: HDMI cable and a USBC. I don't want to brag,

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Speaker 2: but right now you are listening to someone who has

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Speaker 2: successfully set up a dual band mesh Wi Fi at home.

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Speaker 2: So if your TV isn't working properly, I'm not your

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Speaker 2: best bet, but I'm not your absolute worst either. Two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago, though, I tried something with technology that I

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Speaker 2: have never tried before. I started vibe coding. You might

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Speaker 2: have heard that term vibe coding, you might have even

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Speaker 2: done it, but for the uninitiated, vibe coding is when

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Speaker 2: you use normal language instructions to direct an AI system

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Speaker 2: to make applications. Do you follow? You're thinking?

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Speaker 4: Jack?

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Speaker 2: For goodness, say, can't you speak as soon to be

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Speaker 2: official language of this country? Okay? Put it this way.

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Speaker 2: I have zero experience programming or coding, right, zero, absolute

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Speaker 2: zero zeltch nada. I don't know how to write a

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Speaker 2: single line of code, let alone how to code or

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Speaker 2: program anything even moderately useful or complex.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't honestly know where to start. But vibe coding

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Speaker 2: allows people like me to give an aisystem instructions in

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Speaker 2: English to make a website or to make an app,

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Speaker 2: or theoretically anything that relies on code. And the reason

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Speaker 2: I was interested in trying vibe coding is a lot

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Speaker 2: of the tech writers and commentators I follow have been

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Speaker 2: going on and on about how good some of the

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Speaker 2: latest mainstream AI systems are. Forget the chat GPT of

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Speaker 2: two years ago. They said, try the new AI models.

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Speaker 2: They said their game changes. The best thing you can do,

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Speaker 2: they said, to try and prepare for the huge AI

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Speaker 2: understand a bit about how the tools actually work. I

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Speaker 2: hard to distinguish the AI hype from reality. A decade ago,

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Speaker 2: of Amara's law. We overestimate the impact of technology in

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Speaker 2: So in the spirit of trying to get a better

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Speaker 2: downloaded Clawed code. The first thing I did was ask

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Speaker 2: I said, have a sleek look with a charcoal color scheme,

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Speaker 2: hit enter. Claude code went to work.

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Speaker 2: Maybe four minutes later, it was done. I came back

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Speaker 2: and Claude had coded a multi page professional website. Jack Tame,

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Speaker 2: put up online immediately. If I wished, Claude had filled

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Speaker 2: Over the next fifteen minutes or so, I typed basic

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Speaker 2: constructions into Claude. So I said, change the font to this.

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Speaker 2: Can you change the text in the about section so

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Speaker 2: that it says this make the photo of me bigger? Naturally,

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Speaker 2: with each prompt, it would go away and code for

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Speaker 2: It was so easy, so ridiculously easy. Honestly, it didn't

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Speaker 2: asked Claude to design an app for my Mac. I

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Speaker 2: through the dates maybe give it an olive green color scheme.

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Speaker 2: Flawed code went to work a few minutes later. It

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Speaker 2: was done. With no coding experience, no programming experience whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: I could make something and it wasn't half bad. Just

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Speaker 2: imagine I thought someone with expertise might be able to

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Speaker 2: when this was released last month, all manner of software

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Speaker 2: businesses took an almighty hit to their share price. The

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Speaker 2: generative AI systems that let you code are even better

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Speaker 2: than the chatbots, so like the open AI version of

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Speaker 2: coding is even better than chat GPT, and with good reason,

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Speaker 2: the likes of Anthropic and open Ai, the companies that

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Speaker 2: systems so they could then use those systems to build

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Speaker 2: around it, but this is to me an absolutely stunning fact. Anthropic,

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Speaker 2: which owns Claude, estimates ninety percent of claud code has

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Speaker 2: been written by claud Code itself. What does my vibe

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Speaker 2: future of our economies. I don't know, Ozie I got

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Speaker 2: been genuinely wowed. My first experience of vibe coding was

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Speaker 2: It's really hard not to wonder that, if this is

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Speaker 2: where it is today, where might it be five years

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Speaker 3: Jack Team ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two is our text number, Jack at Newstalks hedb

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Speaker 2: dot co dot z. It is my email address. If

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Speaker 2: or get clawed or chet gpt to do it for you,

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Speaker 2: be fourteen o'clock this morning. We're in the kitchen. Or

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Speaker 2: a beautiful little a beautiful little warmer recipe quite rich

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Speaker 2: but very seasonal. A baked nokie and pumpkin recipe we're

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Speaker 2: gonna share with you very shortly. Kevin melm will kick

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Speaker 2: us off for our Saturday morning to get the next

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Speaker 2: sixteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame. This is Newstalk's

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Speaker 2: He'd be no.

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Speaker 1: Better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks b.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen past nine on News Talks. He'd be thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for your messages.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Not sure what you're so excited about. Big deal you

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Speaker 2: used AI for the first time, by the sounds yawn. No,

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Speaker 2: I've used the chat bots lots. So I've used the

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Speaker 2: likes of chat GBT and jem and I and ask

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Speaker 2: some questions, use them for searchers, you know, got them

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Speaker 2: to write up all sorts of things. But this is

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Speaker 2: the first time I'd ever got it to code something.

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Speaker 2: That's the first time i'd ever got it to make

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Speaker 2: a program, to make an app, to make a website,

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Speaker 2: and it was impressive. Honestly, it was impressive. Jack. Vibe

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Speaker 2: coding equals security issues like manage my health, says Bob.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'm not I'm not really qualified to speak as

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Speaker 2: to the security status of my vibe coding, but certainly

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Speaker 2: I think if you were doing anything that was involving

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Speaker 2: want to make sure you knew what you were doing,

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Speaker 2: Bob Vehicle ninety two. I'll get to more of your

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Speaker 2: Kevin Milne is with us this morning.

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Speaker 7: Kevin calder Jack, you know every Saturday morning, I'll get

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Speaker 7: to my seat a few minutes early to listen to

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Speaker 7: your piece so that I, well, I always enjoy them,

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Speaker 7: but also offer some sort of comment at the end

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Speaker 7: of it, you know, Yeah, add my.

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Speaker 2: Little bit and you're going to say you have no comment.

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Speaker 7: Exactly. I'd love to comment, but I have nothing to

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Speaker 7: add to what you've said. Well, not a thing, not

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Speaker 2: All I'm trying to say is that if you are

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Speaker 2: I would say that I'm like I said about par

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Speaker 2: for my age, stage and profession, right, so I'm probably

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Speaker 2: a bit more technical and some of our listeners, and

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Speaker 2: probably a bit less than some of our listeners as well.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is that the consumer products now are

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Speaker 2: so good that theoretically anyone can go and build anything.

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Speaker 2: So you, Kevin, could go and just using English language prompts,

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Speaker 2: you could write into a box and say build me

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Speaker 2: Kevinmilne dot com. And here's what I wanted to do,

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Speaker 2: and you could just write really basic English instructions and

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Speaker 2: it will go and do it. And we've never been

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Speaker 2: at a point with technology where you could do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 2: Just think about the things that opens up to the world,

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Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, and it's it is quite you know,

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Speaker 2: it is quite remarkable, honestly.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, you've been focused on something else this week,

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Speaker 2: something a little more, a little less cutting edge, but

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Speaker 2: very much cutting nonetheless. Spearfishing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, today the North Island spear Fishing Champs have

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Speaker 7: just got on the underway at nine o'clock this morning

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Speaker 7: at par Permu Beach, just down the beach from where

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Speaker 7: I live. I've never done any spear fishing, and clearly

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Speaker 7: it's not a particularly good spectator sport, but I do

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Speaker 7: suddenly have an interest. That's because once the fishing ends

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Speaker 7: at three o'clock and the prizes are presented, all the

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Speaker 7: fish that's caught goes up for auction and I love

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Speaker 7: eating fish. Apparently two hundred and fifty to three hundred

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Speaker 7: as it were. That's the name that's a ton of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you say, for a really good course given. Hey,

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Speaker 2: If you want to send us message, Jack at Newstalks

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Speaker 2: Edb past nine on News Talks. He'd be very shortly

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Speaker 2: we're going to give you your film picks for the weekend.

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Speaker 8: But again sums up t twenty cricket, Glenn Phillips the hero,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be a big one, big one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right, Chiefs Crusaders seven o'clock tonight, The Canes Versus

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Speaker 2: The Drawer at four thirty five, and Brumby's Blues nine

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Speaker 2: thirty five. Thank you, sir Andrew Sevil our sport over

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Speaker 2: there twenty six to ten your film picks for this weekend.

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Speaker 8: Next I'll pla to see any of the best for

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Speaker 8: last Would you breathe it be there you are?

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Speaker 2: That's say, even the flood solitaries that's pretty.

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Speaker 3: I'm just switching in ways are my actions?

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Speaker 9: Letting anythings that week and.

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Speaker 2: News talks about me with Jack Tame that's Narles Barclay.

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Speaker 2: Got a new album coming out later this week March six,

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Speaker 2: what's that Friday of this week? Twenty three minutes to ten.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for your feedback this morning morning, Jack.

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Speaker 2: I do wonder if schools have been pushing coding and

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Speaker 2: oh no, you can have it zero coding experience, and

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Speaker 2: be able to achieve the same thing. Dean has flicked

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Speaker 2: me an email, as he so often does on Saturday mornings,

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Speaker 2: Very much appreciated.

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Speaker 10: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Progress rarely comes from big bangs, but far more often

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Speaker 2: the cumulative effects of seemingly minor improvements exponentially build upon themselves,

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Speaker 2: new instances. Thanks Dean ninety two ninety two. If you

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Speaker 2: want to see me your message this morning, Jacket Newstalk

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Speaker 2: said b dot co dot nz is the email address

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Speaker 2: that Dean just email. Francesca Rudkin is here with our

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Speaker 2: film picks for this weekend. Guilder god more Nan.

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Speaker 11: Yes, my daughter taught herself to coach. She can whip

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Speaker 2: so much more than I can.

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Speaker 3: That's what I forget.

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Speaker 10: Possibly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, two films for this weekend. The first one

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Speaker 2: is showing in cinemas. Let's have a listen to Miriam

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Speaker 2: Marghalie's in Holy Days.

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Speaker 10: Brian Collins, what have you done this too?

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00:24:30,533 --> 00:24:30,893
Speaker 4: Here on?

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Speaker 10: And you're still no closer to accepting his mother's punt.

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Speaker 12: He's about to change around here, places falling apart, But

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Speaker 12: they can't just send us away.

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Speaker 2: Patricia's got the deeds to the convent.

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Speaker 13: Why don't we just gonna get them? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Indeed, that is a new Zealand accent. You just heard

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 14: This is an adaptation of Joy Carby's novel. It's adapted

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Speaker 14: and directed by Natalie Bolt. This is her debut feature

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Speaker 14: and I'm very impressed because she managed to get Miriam Marghalies,

447
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Speaker 14: Jackie Weaver and Judy Davis, three very well known actresses

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Speaker 14: to start in this film as these lovely three nuns

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Speaker 14: who live at this very sort of run down rural nunnery,

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Speaker 14: and they discover that the church has decided that there

451
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Speaker 14: it's quite profitable the land that they're sitting on, and they're.

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Speaker 11: Looking to sell it to a property developer and move

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Speaker 11: the old birds on.

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Speaker 14: But the old birds decide maybe they're not really ready

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Speaker 14: to leave this community which they have looked after for

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Speaker 14: many many.

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Speaker 11: Years and still do.

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Speaker 14: And we have a lovely young character and here played

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Speaker 14: by Elijah Tummody. He plays the little Colin's boy and

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Speaker 14: he is a local and.

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Speaker 11: A very regular visit visitor to the nuns. He is

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Speaker 11: coping with the loss of his mother and his father

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Speaker 11: moving on.

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Speaker 14: He's met this loving new woman and they sort of,

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Speaker 14: you know, it looks like she might become his stepmother.

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Speaker 14: And he's really not coping. And these three nuns take

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Speaker 14: him under, take him under their wing and kind of

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Speaker 14: look after him and things. So where when they discover

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Speaker 14: that there is this plot to sell a band, they

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Speaker 14: decide to go off on a bit of an adventure

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Speaker 14: on a road trip to find the deed, which just

472
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Speaker 14: happens to be down on the South Island and also

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Speaker 14: happens to be where where Brian's mother is originally from.

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Speaker 14: So he goes on a little bit of a journey

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Speaker 14: to try and deal with his grief and things. We've

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Speaker 14: got these wonderful three nuns who hit the road haven't

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Speaker 14: really driven a car for quite a while, and it's

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Speaker 14: just a colorful, heart felt film about loss and family

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Speaker 14: and community and moving on but also courage about citing

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Speaker 14: for what's right.

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Speaker 11: We've got these really sort of quiet rebels at the

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Speaker 11: helm here. It's really sweet and it's really fun. As

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Speaker 11: I said, colorful use of animation in it as well,

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Speaker 11: just tried to make a little bit more sort of

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Speaker 11: visually interesting and things. So yeah, very sweet little number.

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Speaker 14: And it also does this is a Canadian New Zealand

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Speaker 14: co production, but also starts some fabulous New Zealand talent.

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Speaker 14: Craig Callers in there, Johnny Bruff is in as well,

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Speaker 14: and Elijah is just light.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh very good.

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Speaker 4: Watch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's cool. So that's Holy Days. It's showing in

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Speaker 2: cinemas at the moment. Next up, also showing at the movies,

494
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Speaker 2: This is How to Make a Killing.

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Speaker 15: There were seven of them, seven rich pricks between myself

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Speaker 15: and twenty eight billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: If I were to prove a few branches of the

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Speaker 3: family tree.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's how to make a killing. Starring Glenn Powell

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Speaker 2: and Margaret Wally.

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Speaker 14: Yes, So this is a revenge black comedy. It's loosely

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Speaker 14: based on the nineteen forty nine British film Kind, Hearts

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00:27:54,253 --> 00:27:56,973
Speaker 14: and Coronets, which was loosely based on a nineteen oh

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Speaker 14: seven novel, and they've sort of transported this story into modern.

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Speaker 10: Day New York.

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Speaker 11: I like Glenn Powell. I think he's sort of he's

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Speaker 11: got that star quality.

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Speaker 14: He's getting type casts a little bit as great in

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Speaker 14: the romantic comedy or this or that, but he does

510
00:28:15,693 --> 00:28:17,973
Speaker 14: take risks, and he has taken a risk with this film.

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Speaker 14: This is from the writer director of Emily the Criminal,

512
00:28:21,613 --> 00:28:24,973
Speaker 14: which was a great little thriller that starred Aubrew Plaza.

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00:28:25,733 --> 00:28:29,333
Speaker 14: This film also stars tober Grace and Ed Harris. It's

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Speaker 14: a fantastic cast. So you've got a great writer director,

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00:28:32,213 --> 00:28:34,413
Speaker 14: you've got a great cast on board. And I was thinking, awesome,

516
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Speaker 14: this is going to fight. But it doesn't quite. It's

517
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Speaker 14: just a little lackluster.

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Speaker 11: It's got all the ingredients just doesn't quite work, and

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Speaker 11: I wonder whether.

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Speaker 14: It's following close on the heels of no other choice,

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Speaker 14: because it's a slightly similar idea. Here we met this character,

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00:28:49,973 --> 00:28:53,133
Speaker 14: Beckett Redfellow. He's in prison. It becomes clear as he's

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Speaker 14: given his confessional before he's about to be executed, that.

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Speaker 11: He's a member of a very wealthy family.

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Speaker 14: He was outcast as his entire life because his mother

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Speaker 14: got pregnant and his father said, well, if you decide

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Speaker 14: to keep the baby, you need to leave the high

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Speaker 14: and he he gets a point in his life where

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Speaker 14: he goes, actually, I'm going to go after what's mine

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Speaker 14: and my inheritance and live the life my mother always

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Speaker 14: told me I should. And he decides the way to

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Speaker 14: do that is to kill off his family till he's

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Speaker 14: the only one left, and.

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Speaker 11: Hear it, so off we go.

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Speaker 14: Look, there's some great cameos in here. They take the

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Speaker 14: you know, the mickey out of wealthy people, but really

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Speaker 14: have just kind of created caricatures.

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Speaker 11: They're not nice people. But then also I don't know

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Speaker 11: whether they quite deserve to die. So I'm not sure.

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Speaker 14: Whether I'm not sure whether I'm on board plan here

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Speaker 14: and have any sympathy for him.

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Speaker 11: There some really nice twists and turns and lies. Looked

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Speaker 11: to myself, Oh, here we go, here we goes, It's

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Speaker 11: gonna be awesome. But they just kind of faded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, it didn't quite work. Yeah, very good.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's a bit disappointing because I saw that

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Speaker 2: line up and thought that could be amazing total yeah, astonishing. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mentioned it to Libby. I said, are

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Speaker 2: you a fan of Glen Powell and Margaret Whalli? He

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Speaker 2: is a big Glen power flan has to be said

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Speaker 2: with Libby. But Margaret Qually, you know, she said, she

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Speaker 2: says she likes that Margaret Quality doesn't have iPhone face.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of iPhone face? What's iPhone face? I'd

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Speaker 2: never heard of it either. The iPhone face is apparently

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Speaker 2: a phenomenon used to describe generally actresses. But you know,

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Speaker 2: actors and actresses who appear in period dramas but clearly

557
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Speaker 2: are having like filler and botox and stuff to kind

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Speaker 2: of meet modern beauty standards, so they end up looking

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Speaker 2: a lot more like movie stars of twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: who are in the Instagram iPhone age, rather than people

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Speaker 2: from the eighteen hundreds. You know, so she appreciates that

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Speaker 2: Margaret Quality doesn't have iPhone face, which I thought was

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Speaker 2: a peculiar way of we're all moving.

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Speaker 11: Does that just apply to if you're in a period

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Speaker 11: film or would it apply across the board.

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Speaker 2: Do you think I think iPhone face can apply to anyone,

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Speaker 2: but specifically specifically people complain about iPhone face when they

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Speaker 2: see iPhone face in period dramas. Yeah, that's my understanding.

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Speaker 2: You're not exactly asking the experts here. We need to

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Speaker 2: get Leboon just to explain yourself. But yeah, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 2: there you go. I could just imagine seeing that as

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Speaker 2: a line, you know how they have the lines on

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Speaker 2: the bottom of the of the big movie posters. Margaret

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Speaker 2: Qualley doesn't have iPhone face. Yeah, I hey, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: Those films again, How to Make a Killing and Holy Days,

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Speaker 2: both of them are showing in cinemas at the moment.

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Speaker 2: More details on the news talks, he'd be websites.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack Team. Keep him a conversation going

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Speaker 1: through the weekend US talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be twelve minutes to ten. Our cook Nicky Works

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Speaker 2: is here with a delicious hearty sounding recipe for us

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Speaker 2: this Saturday morning.

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Speaker 16: Ha nikey Okay, it's so autumnal. This this jack is

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Speaker 16: so autumnal. And I mean, I don't know about you,

585
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Speaker 16: but it feels as though the year is just about

586
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Speaker 16: to ramp up.

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00:32:02,573 --> 00:32:02,813
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: So I am just on easy, fast dinners at the moment,

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00:32:07,733 --> 00:32:10,333
Speaker 16: even ones that can be frozen if possible and then

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Speaker 16: reheat it. It's crazy. So I've had this three times

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Speaker 16: in the last about ten days, baked baked Nylocki and pumpkin,

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Speaker 16: And let me tell you and our listeners, it is

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Speaker 16: just so great and it's so easy because I used

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Speaker 16: pre bought Nyoki. I know, who knew I would do

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Speaker 16: such a thing. Wow, Really, I don't really economical, it's

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Speaker 16: unbelievably economical. You can buy these packs of Nyoki. And

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Speaker 16: I tried it last night with gluten free because I

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Speaker 16: had a gluten free gift over and the gluten freen

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Speaker 16: Yochi was fan clastic as well. And honestly, about six

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Speaker 16: dolls three ninety five are packet and its seeds six apparently,

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Speaker 16: so it was just great. So here you got the

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Speaker 16: oven two hundred threes. So I like to get nice

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Speaker 16: and hot with fan bake. I'm using buttonuts because buttonut

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Speaker 16: and all other pumpkins are in at the moment, and

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Speaker 16: I just love pumpkin.

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Speaker 13: Gosh.

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Speaker 16: I love pumpkin, and it's is getting to be a

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Speaker 16: bit cheaper, So cut it into large bite sized pieces,

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Speaker 16: and then I toss that with a red onion that

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Speaker 16: I've sliced thinley and half a caps can. Toss it

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Speaker 16: in a bit of oil and season it well and

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Speaker 16: either fry it off in a pan until those sort

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Speaker 16: of onions are started, you know, have sort of cooked

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Speaker 16: through or roasted off in a tray in the oven.

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Speaker 16: But it just takes a bit longer if you do

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Speaker 16: it that way. Take a nice big ovenproof dish. This

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Speaker 16: feeds two whiskin half a cup of cream fresh or

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Speaker 16: sour cream with about three quarters of a cup of

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Speaker 16: liquid vegetable stock and rosemary. So whenever I've served this

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Speaker 16: dish to people, they say, oh, did you make a beshmale,

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Speaker 16: And I say, no, I didn't, So you just whisk this.

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Speaker 16: It's a really easy kind of sauce way to get

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Speaker 16: a nice little sauce tumble in your KNOCKI and Yoki YOCKI,

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Speaker 16: I should say, and I use about sort of half

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Speaker 16: or a third of the packet. You don't do anything

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Speaker 16: to it beforehand, to straight out of the packet and

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Speaker 16: into the tray, add a few handfuls of spinach leaves,

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Speaker 16: and then you roasted vegetables, toss those all together, and

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Speaker 16: then sprinkle the whole lot with I've been using a

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Speaker 16: combo of blue cheese and grated cheddar, and then you

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Speaker 16: bake it uncovered and all of that for about twenty

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Speaker 16: twenty five minutes, and it is beautiful. I think that

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Speaker 16: when we try and boil in your key, well sometimes

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Speaker 16: we end up with little rubber bullets. Yeah, and they're

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Speaker 16: not as much fun as you'd think, but honestly baking

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Speaker 16: and they just turn out to be fluffy and fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It sounds so good.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's really good. It's really good. You could put

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Speaker 16: some chopped Dutch eat so in it, if you put

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Speaker 16: chopped up anything in it.

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Speaker 2: Nick, dimensional come on, that's all right, I am, that's okay, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no, But it's.

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Speaker 16: Really really fantastic. And every time I've served it to somebody,

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Speaker 16: they have thought that I put in a lot more

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Speaker 16: effort than I actually did, and It's just a good

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Speaker 16: one for when we're starting to get a bit but

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Speaker 16: there and when those evenings are a little bit cooler,

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Speaker 16: so we perhaps feel like something just a little bit heartier.

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Speaker 2: What about what about a few little toasted pine nuts

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Speaker 2: on top?

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Speaker 16: Oh that sounds lovely. So I was going for economy,

652
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Speaker 16: but look at you.

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Speaker 2: This is the well, this is the thing. You can

654
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Speaker 2: have the economy option, but then you can with just

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Speaker 2: a little you know, a little slight of hand. Yeah, exactly,

656
00:35:12,933 --> 00:35:14,693
Speaker 2: you can it out and give the impression.

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Speaker 16: Oh yeahel you could do all of that.

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Speaker 13: Hey.

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Speaker 16: Now, I also have a quick question for you. I

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Speaker 16: am walking the route Bourn track, coming right up. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: I want to know you're a tramper. What sort of

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Speaker 16: food do you take when you're away on a tramp?

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Speaker 16: Do you do the dehydrated or it depends on how

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Speaker 16: long I'm going.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not opposed to the dehydrated yep, So I

666
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Speaker 2: reckon salami is a great option for when you're when

667
00:35:39,653 --> 00:35:42,133
Speaker 2: you're dropping because at last and you don't need to

668
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Speaker 2: worry about stuff. And I'm a big fan of oats,

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Speaker 2: so oats in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like

670
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Speaker 2: porridge to start the day because it's easier to travel.

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00:35:51,533 --> 00:35:53,653
Speaker 2: A little goes a long way, and that because it's

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Speaker 2: low GI you know, so it burns slowly in light exactly.

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Speaker 16: And you could actually just soak them the night before,

674
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Speaker 16: couldn't you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, And then.

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00:36:03,093 --> 00:36:03,653
Speaker 10: You've got the birch.

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Speaker 16: You don't have to waste that pot in the morning.

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Speaker 16: You're making it a teat Okay, yep, So those.

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00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:11,013
Speaker 2: Are my Those are my two things. But I'm personally

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Speaker 2: not opposed to to the dehydrated option. The one thing

681
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Speaker 2: I would say is that often they often like I

682
00:36:19,893 --> 00:36:24,133
Speaker 2: feel like I need two you know, they're not sufficient

683
00:36:24,213 --> 00:36:26,053
Speaker 2: for like one thing that's sufficient. That would be my

684
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Speaker 2: one complaint. The other option, and this is a bit

685
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Speaker 2: of a tame favorite, is you can go to the

686
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Speaker 2: I mean, Rubert might work for but you can go

687
00:36:32,893 --> 00:36:35,973
Speaker 2: to the supermarket and you can get those like pre

688
00:36:36,253 --> 00:36:40,173
Speaker 2: made pastas in a packet that are about three bucks,

689
00:36:40,373 --> 00:36:42,413
Speaker 2: like a Watties one or something like that. Look, they're

690
00:36:42,493 --> 00:36:45,253
Speaker 2: not you know, they're not Hawk Cuisine. They're not the

691
00:36:45,813 --> 00:36:49,133
Speaker 2: fanciest thing in the world. But if you need quick energy,

692
00:36:49,453 --> 00:36:51,613
Speaker 2: they go a long way. They're really easy to heat up.

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Speaker 11: And they go a long way, So that's because they're

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Speaker 11: already sort of predna.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're about three bucks honestly, like three dollars

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Speaker 2: or something like that. So yeah, that could be a

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Speaker 2: smarther little tip.

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Speaker 16: I knew you were the person to talk to because

699
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Speaker 16: I know you've done a lot of hiking in your life,

700
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Speaker 16: where as I am a complete novel.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna love It'll be amazing, especially at this

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Speaker 2: time of the year. Oh, I can't wait to hear

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Speaker 2: it goes. Yeah, God, Okay, look forward to your reporting.

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Speaker 16: Your family's gonna love.

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Speaker 2: It too, right, Okay, we'll make sure that recipe is

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Speaker 2: up and available on the news talks Heb website, newstalks

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Speaker 1: The inside scoop on all you need to know Saturday

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Speaker 1: Morning with Jack Team News Talks be.

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Speaker 2: I've had so many messages this hour, so thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. If you flip me a note, hahn't sent

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Speaker 2: me a really good one to say Jack. First of all,

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Speaker 2: of your feedback after ten o'clock as well as that

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Speaker 2: and our feature interview right after the News Kiwi Hollywood

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Speaker 2: legend Carl Urban on his brand new film The Bluff.

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Speaker 2: It's Almost ten News is next the Saturday Morning I'm

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame. This is news Talk ZB.

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Speaker 1: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 2: What any of you with Jactatim on News Talks he'd

741
00:39:27,613 --> 00:39:30,933
Speaker 2: be Carl Urban has been on our screens for about

742
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Speaker 2: three decades now. He made history on Shortened Street as

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Speaker 2: the first openly gay character, and he was introduced to

744
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Speaker 2: the world as a writer of Rohan in Peter Jackson's

745
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Speaker 2: Lord of the Rings. Carl's varied acting career has taken

746
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Speaker 2: him all around the world. That sent him work with

747
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Speaker 2: some Hollywood legends, and in his latest film, The Bluff,

748
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Speaker 2: he teamed up with Prianca Chopra Jones for the nineteenth

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Speaker 2: century action thriller following a former pirate who attempts to

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Speaker 2: keep her family safe when her old captain seeks revenge.

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Speaker 6: No one leaves the silnce.

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Speaker 13: I collect my property.

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Speaker 4: Why did you contrain me?

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Speaker 3: You think I would just learn you to slip away?

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Speaker 4: Bloody, bloody Mary.

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Speaker 17: I'm told you have a beautiful new family.

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Speaker 3: They know who you really are.

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Speaker 10: I'm still your mother and I will do anything in

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Speaker 10: my power to protect you.

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Speaker 2: Karl Urban is with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Caled a good morning, Good Morning Jack, how are you.

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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me on the show.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you here, great to be speaking

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Speaker 2: with you. And congratulations on the Bluff. I can't say

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Speaker 2: this for every film, but it really looked like it

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Speaker 2: would have been a hell of a lot of fun

767
00:40:48,933 --> 00:40:51,253
Speaker 2: to make this film. So what drew you to the Bluff?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it was a lot of fun to make.

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Speaker 6: You know. What drew me to the film was well,

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Speaker 6: two things. Firstly, it was the story itself. I found

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Speaker 6: it quite intriguing and I was drawn to, you know,

772
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Speaker 6: this sort of pirate story. It's a story about a

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Speaker 6: woman who is defending her family from her nefarious past.

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Speaker 6: And I play the nefarious past, and I play a

775
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Speaker 6: character called Captain Connor, who is a former East India

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Speaker 6: Trading Company captain who has basically been outlawed. He was

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Speaker 6: betrayed by the Empire, betrayed by his lover and partner,

778
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Speaker 6: and you know, kind of ostracized. And and to me,

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00:41:36,573 --> 00:41:39,053
Speaker 6: that was a very fertile kind of ground to launch

780
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Speaker 6: this story. And and and it was it was a

781
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Speaker 6: lot of fun when you.

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Speaker 2: Think about the kind of continuum of heroes and bad guys,

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Speaker 2: and I know that, you know that probably reduces things

784
00:41:50,133 --> 00:41:52,413
Speaker 2: to being a little bit too binary, But you have

785
00:41:52,573 --> 00:41:55,533
Speaker 2: played beloved heroes over the years. It strikes me that

786
00:41:55,653 --> 00:41:58,453
Speaker 2: that Billy Butcher is kind of an anti hero of sorts.

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Speaker 2: So where do you think that Captain Connor kind of

788
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Speaker 2: sits on that continuum?

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Speaker 6: Well, listen, I mean he's a bad guy. There's no pirates,

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Speaker 6: And I think that's one of the the good things

791
00:42:09,173 --> 00:42:11,933
Speaker 6: about the bluff is that, you know, you know, we've

792
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Speaker 6: become accustoms a lot of sort of comedic takes on it,

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Speaker 6: you know, our action takes. You know, this this is

794
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Speaker 6: a kind of a gritty look at some of the

795
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Speaker 6: right the reality that these were bad men that you know,

796
00:42:22,573 --> 00:42:27,573
Speaker 6: the brutal things. But you know, you know, to me,

797
00:42:27,733 --> 00:42:31,373
Speaker 6: I think that you know, this film it just it

798
00:42:31,493 --> 00:42:33,973
Speaker 6: fires on all cylinders, like it's a lit fuse. It's

799
00:42:34,053 --> 00:42:36,893
Speaker 6: like once it starts, it's relentless and it doesn't give up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's there's certainly a lot of action. Like you

801
00:42:40,853 --> 00:42:43,893
Speaker 2: you're minutes in and you're completely gripped because everything is

802
00:42:43,933 --> 00:42:45,813
Speaker 2: happening on screen. And I think you're right to say

803
00:42:45,853 --> 00:42:50,053
Speaker 2: that these are they're not like upstanding members of society necessarily.

804
00:42:50,133 --> 00:42:52,573
Speaker 2: It's like, it's not the least violent film I've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it's you could definitely say that. I think

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00:42:57,853 --> 00:42:59,253
Speaker 6: what was important for me as an actor is to

807
00:42:59,413 --> 00:43:02,493
Speaker 6: like always try and find a positive psychology to put

808
00:43:02,533 --> 00:43:05,333
Speaker 6: behind the character. And I find that helps if I

809
00:43:05,573 --> 00:43:07,733
Speaker 6: know why I'm doing or I have a goal or

810
00:43:07,773 --> 00:43:10,653
Speaker 6: a purpose. And then this case, you know, all what

811
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Speaker 6: the character wanted was the freedom to live in the

812
00:43:13,013 --> 00:43:17,413
Speaker 6: world that he helped build, and so you know that helps.

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00:43:17,413 --> 00:43:21,093
Speaker 6: If I can align myself psychologically with what the character's

814
00:43:21,173 --> 00:43:23,653
Speaker 6: goals are, then it helps me to really commit to,

815
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Speaker 6: you know, whatever the characters required to.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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00:43:26,093 --> 00:43:28,813
Speaker 2: Right, So this was filmed in Australia, but the name

818
00:43:28,893 --> 00:43:32,493
Speaker 2: the Bluff comes from those incredible cliffs that came and

819
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Speaker 2: Rack and when I first saw them in the film,

820
00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:38,373
Speaker 2: having never seen them before, I immediately had to google

821
00:43:38,533 --> 00:43:41,573
Speaker 2: does this place actually exist? It's such a remarkable kind

822
00:43:41,613 --> 00:43:44,333
Speaker 2: of kind of physical landscape. Did you have an opportunity

823
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Speaker 2: to actually visit?

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Speaker 6: No, sadly I haven't. But you know, we were blessed

825
00:43:49,213 --> 00:43:52,253
Speaker 6: on this film with having our director Frank Flowers actually

826
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Speaker 6: be from the Cayman Islands and he kind of really

827
00:43:54,653 --> 00:43:56,973
Speaker 6: you know, imbued the film with a whole lot of knowledge,

828
00:43:57,733 --> 00:44:00,573
Speaker 6: specific knowledge that sort of really kind of enriched I

829
00:44:00,653 --> 00:44:02,813
Speaker 6: guess the tapestry, But I would love to go there

830
00:44:02,853 --> 00:44:06,053
Speaker 6: one day. It just it looks so extraordinarily beautiful. And

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Speaker 6: I met a lot of people on this shoot who

832
00:44:09,293 --> 00:44:11,733
Speaker 6: were from the Cayman Islands and the wonderful people. So

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00:44:11,933 --> 00:44:14,173
Speaker 6: as soon as I get the opportunity, I definitely will

834
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Speaker 6: will take it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a remarkable landscape. It's like a screensaver good landscape.

836
00:44:18,813 --> 00:44:19,973
Speaker 2: You know, It's like you look at it and you're

837
00:44:20,013 --> 00:44:21,733
Speaker 2: like that, truly that's not a real place, and then

838
00:44:22,173 --> 00:44:22,773
Speaker 2: that's not real.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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00:44:23,213 --> 00:44:26,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Love and Behold. So obviously you're starting

841
00:44:26,373 --> 00:44:30,933
Speaker 2: alongside Prianka Chovra Jones. But as well as that, I

842
00:44:30,973 --> 00:44:32,453
Speaker 2: don't know what it is about keyw WE actors. They

843
00:44:32,533 --> 00:44:33,973
Speaker 2: just have a habit of kind of ending up in

844
00:44:34,013 --> 00:44:36,493
Speaker 2: these amazing scenarios. To give it you're offside or as

845
00:44:36,533 --> 00:44:38,133
Speaker 2: Tim a waird to Morrison in this film. So how

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00:44:38,293 --> 00:44:42,093
Speaker 2: was it playing a swashbuckling pirate alongside Tim.

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00:44:43,533 --> 00:44:45,653
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was like, firstly, it was really important for me.

848
00:44:46,453 --> 00:44:48,933
Speaker 6: I was an advocate of having time on board, and

849
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Speaker 6: I was so delighted when he came on board. And

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00:44:52,213 --> 00:44:54,573
Speaker 6: you know, Tim is one of those iconic New Zealand

851
00:44:54,653 --> 00:44:58,293
Speaker 6: actors you know that inspired a generation. He's a trailblazer.

852
00:44:58,293 --> 00:45:00,533
Speaker 6: You know, when I think of actors who have inspired

853
00:45:00,653 --> 00:45:04,653
Speaker 6: me in my career, this Sam Neil, the great Bruno Lawrence,

854
00:45:04,733 --> 00:45:07,573
Speaker 6: you know, you know, Russell Crown set the bar and

855
00:45:07,653 --> 00:45:11,253
Speaker 6: then Tim Morrison with once More Warriors. And to have

856
00:45:12,293 --> 00:45:14,773
Speaker 6: the opportunity to go toe to toe with him and

857
00:45:14,893 --> 00:45:16,613
Speaker 6: just to have him on set and for him to

858
00:45:16,693 --> 00:45:21,733
Speaker 6: bring his his wealth of knowledge and experience really enriched

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00:45:21,773 --> 00:45:23,893
Speaker 6: the film. I mean there was actually a point in

860
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Speaker 6: the movie where his contribution was you know, I felt

861
00:45:28,493 --> 00:45:31,333
Speaker 6: really added such an incredible depth to it. Like he

862
00:45:32,013 --> 00:45:36,853
Speaker 6: he was adamant that his characters should you know, suffer

863
00:45:36,933 --> 00:45:39,853
Speaker 6: a loss, a loss of his son, and from that

864
00:45:40,013 --> 00:45:43,133
Speaker 6: point in the movie everything wraps up. And so I

865
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Speaker 6: think that, you know, we were really blessed to have

866
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Speaker 6: him on this on this movie. And yeah, that's a

867
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Speaker 6: great guy.

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Speaker 2: He advocated to have Tim do you tell him, do

869
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Speaker 2: you do you ever say to him, you know, take

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Speaker 2: him aside and say, you know, for what it's worth

871
00:45:57,773 --> 00:46:00,533
Speaker 2: you know, we're here, we're fighting the good fight or

872
00:46:00,533 --> 00:46:03,773
Speaker 2: the bad fight sometimes in this film together. But so

873
00:46:03,933 --> 00:46:06,933
Speaker 2: you know, you know, two decades ago, three decades ago,

874
00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:09,853
Speaker 2: you were someone who had a massive impact on me.

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Speaker 6: Oh, he knows. I mean because I knew. I've known

876
00:46:13,813 --> 00:46:16,333
Speaker 6: Tim for a very long time. We worked together a

877
00:46:16,453 --> 00:46:18,653
Speaker 6: very long time ago, and you know, he was always

878
00:46:18,733 --> 00:46:21,693
Speaker 6: very generous with his during the in the Once Warriors

879
00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:24,933
Speaker 6: days with offering his vice and I always remember him goes,

880
00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:28,893
Speaker 6: plant those boots, boy, plant those boots. And so fast

881
00:46:28,933 --> 00:46:31,093
Speaker 6: forward all these years in my career as you know,

882
00:46:31,293 --> 00:46:33,933
Speaker 6: gone where it's gone and hiss. You know, he's done

883
00:46:33,973 --> 00:46:37,053
Speaker 6: so many wonderful performances and to have the opportunity to

884
00:46:37,933 --> 00:46:40,853
Speaker 6: you know, to work with him again and it was

885
00:46:40,933 --> 00:46:42,133
Speaker 6: it was really special for me.

886
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Speaker 13: Yeah.

887
00:46:42,653 --> 00:46:44,493
Speaker 2: Am I right in thinking that your son and he

888
00:46:44,693 --> 00:46:45,493
Speaker 2: was involved with this too?

889
00:46:46,573 --> 00:46:47,173
Speaker 6: That's correct?

890
00:46:47,253 --> 00:46:48,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, how is that?

891
00:46:49,813 --> 00:46:50,493
Speaker 10: It was great?

892
00:46:50,693 --> 00:46:53,253
Speaker 6: It was like you know, I mean, he's sort of

893
00:46:53,333 --> 00:46:56,213
Speaker 6: my son. He's been on film sets his whole life

894
00:46:56,253 --> 00:46:58,893
Speaker 6: to one degree or another. And I did a film

895
00:46:58,933 --> 00:47:01,693
Speaker 6: before this called Mortal Kombat too, and the film producer

896
00:47:01,733 --> 00:47:03,373
Speaker 6: came up to me in Sittleton. Do you think you know,

897
00:47:03,453 --> 00:47:06,133
Speaker 6: your son would be interested in being a young version

898
00:47:06,173 --> 00:47:08,493
Speaker 6: of of Johnny Cage. And I went, I'll ask him,

899
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Speaker 6: and I asked him and he said yes, he'd do it.

900
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Speaker 6: And he came and he smashed it out of the

901
00:47:13,253 --> 00:47:15,093
Speaker 6: park and he was like, my god, this is amazing.

902
00:47:15,093 --> 00:47:16,533
Speaker 6: I want to be an actor. And I'm like, well,

903
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Speaker 6: slowed down, why don't.

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Speaker 2: You cont those boots? Plant those boots? Yeah, canet part

905
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Speaker 2: of it.

906
00:47:22,533 --> 00:47:24,853
Speaker 6: I was the opposite. I'm like, well, listen, just not

907
00:47:24,933 --> 00:47:28,653
Speaker 6: get carried away, come on the bluff. Be an extra work,

908
00:47:29,053 --> 00:47:32,333
Speaker 6: you know, every day for six, seven, eight weeks, get

909
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Speaker 6: up at four in the morning, you know, work a

910
00:47:34,693 --> 00:47:37,213
Speaker 6: ten and twelve hour day, and then see how you

911
00:47:37,293 --> 00:47:39,173
Speaker 6: feel because a lot of it's waiting around, a lot

912
00:47:39,213 --> 00:47:42,413
Speaker 6: of it's not getting used. But he absolutely loved it,

913
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Speaker 6: and I think he really, you know, took to the

914
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Speaker 6: culture and the creative process of working with everybody from

915
00:47:51,253 --> 00:47:57,293
Speaker 6: every department, whether it's camera, wardrobe and working with other actors.

916
00:47:57,453 --> 00:48:00,973
Speaker 6: You know, great other actors that are coming through in

917
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Speaker 6: New Zealand. There's another young guy, Jordan, who's in our movie.

918
00:48:05,293 --> 00:48:07,413
Speaker 6: Hugely tell him to go. Brought it from day one

919
00:48:07,493 --> 00:48:12,533
Speaker 6: and New Zealand actor. So yeah, so he's going for it.

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Speaker 2: Having had that full, kind of wholesome experience of the

921
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Speaker 2: early starts and the graft and the waiting and everything else.

922
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Speaker 2: He's still keen.

923
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Speaker 6: He is, Yeah, No, he's he's He studied at South

924
00:48:24,093 --> 00:48:27,413
Speaker 6: Seas last year and he's already landed his first role

925
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Speaker 6: in a television show, a copro that's happening in New

926
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Speaker 6: Zealand at the moment. So and I'd love the opportunity

927
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Speaker 6: to work with him again one day. I think he's

928
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Speaker 6: actually far more naturally gifted at his age. He's twenty

929
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Speaker 6: now than I was at that age.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, how good?

931
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Speaker 7: Hey.

932
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Speaker 2: I think the fifth and final season of The Boys

933
00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:47,013
Speaker 2: heads our way in a couple of months, I think April.

934
00:48:47,093 --> 00:48:50,333
Speaker 2: It's currently slated for broadcast in New Zealand. It has

935
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Speaker 2: had astonishing success, like crazy success. So how has it

936
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Speaker 2: been wrapping the production on The Boys after all of

937
00:48:58,773 --> 00:49:01,053
Speaker 2: these years and after what has been extraordinary?

938
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Speaker 6: It was, Yeah, it was a bit of sweet. It

939
00:49:05,933 --> 00:49:08,013
Speaker 6: was amazing to really be able to go out in

940
00:49:08,053 --> 00:49:10,533
Speaker 6: our own terms, to tell a story over a period

941
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Speaker 6: of five seasons, to have a succinct beginning, middle and

942
00:49:13,973 --> 00:49:17,053
Speaker 6: end and yeah, it was a bit of sweet. I'm

943
00:49:17,093 --> 00:49:21,093
Speaker 6: really going to miss that cast and that crew. Really

944
00:49:21,213 --> 00:49:25,893
Speaker 6: phenomenally talented people and we've you know, become so close

945
00:49:25,973 --> 00:49:29,533
Speaker 6: over the years. I will miss Toronto in the summer,

946
00:49:29,693 --> 00:49:32,813
Speaker 6: not so much. In the winter. It's brutal. Just some days,

947
00:49:32,933 --> 00:49:35,173
Speaker 6: like you know, you're shooting on set in Toronto and

948
00:49:35,253 --> 00:49:38,893
Speaker 6: winter it's minus you know, fifteen degrees and it's just

949
00:49:39,013 --> 00:49:41,053
Speaker 6: tears are rolling out of your eyes because that's what

950
00:49:41,133 --> 00:49:44,453
Speaker 6: they do when it's that cold. So yeah, it's it's

951
00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:48,173
Speaker 6: just just to deliver something to an audience that's invested

952
00:49:48,173 --> 00:49:53,813
Speaker 6: and it's been so supportive of the show, and I'm

953
00:49:53,933 --> 00:49:56,093
Speaker 6: excited for them to see where it all ends up.

954
00:49:56,253 --> 00:49:56,453
Speaker 13: Yeah.

955
00:49:56,573 --> 00:49:58,893
Speaker 2: Well, look, thank you so much for your time. Congratulations

956
00:49:58,973 --> 00:50:00,893
Speaker 2: on the Bluff. We hope to see your home sometime soon.

957
00:50:01,973 --> 00:50:03,613
Speaker 6: Thank you, Jack. Yeah, I'll be home soon.

958
00:50:03,973 --> 00:50:07,213
Speaker 2: It's Carl Urban, so good. The Bluff is streaming on

959
00:50:07,453 --> 00:50:09,613
Speaker 2: Prime Video now. We've got all the details up on

960
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Speaker 2: the newstalgs 'DB website. Right now, it is eighteen minutes

961
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Speaker 2: past ten, so before eleven o'clock on Newstalks 'DB. We've

962
00:50:17,253 --> 00:50:20,053
Speaker 2: got some tips on getting your tomatoes to last just

963
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Speaker 2: a little bit later in season, I reckon, I need

964
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Speaker 2: to start staggering my tomatoes. I actually ripped out my

965
00:50:24,333 --> 00:50:27,253
Speaker 2: tomato plants this week. They were done, the cucumbers still going,

966
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Speaker 2: the caps can still going, basil still going. Tomatoes have

967
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Speaker 2: done though, so I thinking maybe I need to start

968
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Speaker 2: staggering them. Anyway, We're going to get our man in

969
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Speaker 2: the garden's tips on doing just that as well as

970
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Speaker 2: that will catch up with our tech Burt and I've

971
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Speaker 2: been vibe coding on this clawed code system which is

972
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Speaker 2: owned by Anthropic, which is one of the big AI companies,

973
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Speaker 2: but now it is in a pretty big face off

974
00:50:50,693 --> 00:50:54,253
Speaker 2: with the US Department of War. So our Textburt will

975
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Speaker 2: explain why very shortly. Next up though your screen time

976
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Speaker 2: picks for this weekend nineteen past ten. You're with Jack Tame.

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Speaker 2: This is Newstalk's ZEDB.

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Speaker 1: Start your weekend off the right way. Saturday morning with

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Speaker 1: Jack dam News Talks EVY.

980
00:51:10,693 --> 00:51:13,453
Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes past ten, Carl Pushman is here with

981
00:51:13,613 --> 00:51:17,253
Speaker 2: this week's screen time picks shows to watch or stream

982
00:51:17,333 --> 00:51:21,093
Speaker 2: from the comfort of your catch gid A. Carl, Hi, Jack, Hey,

983
00:51:21,173 --> 00:51:25,933
Speaker 2: let's start off with the keenly anticipated reality check inside

984
00:51:25,973 --> 00:51:28,853
Speaker 2: America's Next Top Model, which is streaming on Netflix.

985
00:51:29,773 --> 00:51:31,413
Speaker 18: Yeah, there's been a bit of a trend recently to

986
00:51:31,533 --> 00:51:34,973
Speaker 18: deep dive into those naughties era reality shows that we

987
00:51:35,093 --> 00:51:37,933
Speaker 18: all remember. Last year was Fit for TV The Reality

988
00:51:37,973 --> 00:51:40,653
Speaker 18: of the Biggest Loser, and now this three part series

989
00:51:40,733 --> 00:51:42,693
Speaker 18: goes beyond the glamour to reveal what was really going

990
00:51:42,773 --> 00:51:45,973
Speaker 18: on behind the scenes of what was arguably the biggest

991
00:51:46,013 --> 00:51:49,213
Speaker 18: reality juggernaut of that era. For such a frivolous topic.

992
00:51:49,253 --> 00:51:51,973
Speaker 18: America's Next Top Model was a hot mess of controversy,

993
00:51:52,373 --> 00:51:54,333
Speaker 18: most of its stemming from its host, series creator and

994
00:51:54,533 --> 00:51:56,933
Speaker 18: X Top Model Tyra Banks, but a lot of it

995
00:51:57,053 --> 00:52:01,213
Speaker 18: to also do with the production of the series itself

996
00:52:01,293 --> 00:52:05,253
Speaker 18: and how little it actually cared about its contestants. To

997
00:52:05,453 --> 00:52:08,133
Speaker 18: Tyra Banks's credit, she does face up to the documentary makers.

998
00:52:08,413 --> 00:52:11,493
Speaker 18: She sort of swaps between her breathless TV speech patterns

999
00:52:11,653 --> 00:52:13,973
Speaker 18: and also just talking normally like a normal human being,

1000
00:52:14,093 --> 00:52:16,693
Speaker 18: depending on the line of questioning she's facing at the time.

1001
00:52:17,693 --> 00:52:20,013
Speaker 18: The intentions behind the series, which ran for a decade,

1002
00:52:20,213 --> 00:52:22,453
Speaker 18: was watched by over one hundred million people at its peak,

1003
00:52:22,493 --> 00:52:25,373
Speaker 18: which is insanely massive and even spawned our own local

1004
00:52:25,453 --> 00:52:29,453
Speaker 18: version here you might remember We're initially honorable. She relates

1005
00:52:29,493 --> 00:52:32,093
Speaker 18: how important it was for her that there was ethnic

1006
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Speaker 18: diversity between the contestants, and how she really wanted to

1007
00:52:35,293 --> 00:52:38,493
Speaker 18: challenge the conventional norms of what was considered beautiful at

1008
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Speaker 18: the time. To that end, the show's producer describes a

1009
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Speaker 18: meeting with a network Big Cheese, one of the most

1010
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Speaker 18: powerful men of Hollywood, when and watching mortified as Banks

1011
00:52:47,453 --> 00:52:50,053
Speaker 18: got into a heated and passionate argument with him because

1012
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Speaker 18: he didn't want to have a latina contestant on the

1013
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Speaker 18: show before the show was even greenlit. It's worth noting

1014
00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:59,293
Speaker 18: that Banks did lose that fight. She's there and it's

1015
00:52:59,413 --> 00:53:02,093
Speaker 18: quite an interesting story seeing how that she made this

1016
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Speaker 18: vision happen. Along with Banks, the cast you remembers mostly

1017
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Speaker 18: all here. The two Jay's Catwalk trainer Miss Jay and

1018
00:53:09,133 --> 00:53:11,413
Speaker 18: the creative director j Manuel are both on hand to

1019
00:53:11,493 --> 00:53:14,053
Speaker 18: discuss how rare it was to have queer representation in

1020
00:53:14,173 --> 00:53:16,573
Speaker 18: that era, and also not so quietly revel in the

1021
00:53:16,653 --> 00:53:19,413
Speaker 18: fact that their double act was more popular than Tyra Banks.

1022
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Speaker 18: The photographer Nigel Barker also pops up to cheerfully admit

1023
00:53:23,053 --> 00:53:25,173
Speaker 18: he was only there as a token straight white male

1024
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Speaker 18: and as network man dated Ye Candy for the viewership.

1025
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Speaker 18: But despite whatever honorable intentions Banks claims to have had,

1026
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Speaker 18: the show did quickly become a toxic environment filled with bullying, exploitation,

1027
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Speaker 18: and men girl behavior on screen. And the documentary goes

1028
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Speaker 18: into all of that. The former contestants all get their

1029
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Speaker 18: chance to tell their sides of the stories, and there's

1030
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Speaker 18: a lot of tears and horrific stories coming through compared

1031
00:53:50,813 --> 00:53:54,773
Speaker 18: to the cheerful recollections of the hosts. More often than not,

1032
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Speaker 18: their time on Top Model was downright ugly, and they

1033
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Speaker 18: tell you all about it. So it's a very compelling documentary.

1034
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this sounds great, It sounds really interesting. It sounds

1035
00:54:05,453 --> 00:54:07,413
Speaker 2: grad in that it's men managed to first of all,

1036
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Speaker 2: get input from the likes of Tyra Banks and the

1037
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Speaker 2: other stars of that show, but also to try and

1038
00:54:12,853 --> 00:54:16,413
Speaker 2: to try and balance, you know, some of the arguably

1039
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Speaker 2: more honorable components of the show. It's just amazing though

1040
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Speaker 2: in the same way that you know, when we watched

1041
00:54:21,853 --> 00:54:24,093
Speaker 2: the like I went back and watched the Biggest Loser

1042
00:54:24,493 --> 00:54:27,013
Speaker 2: documentary last year for what was it called Funning Fit

1043
00:54:27,173 --> 00:54:29,893
Speaker 2: or something like that. What was it called can you

1044
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Speaker 2: remember ye.

1045
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Speaker 3: TV?

1046
00:54:32,653 --> 00:54:36,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, oh my god, this was okay,

1047
00:54:37,293 --> 00:54:39,253
Speaker 2: like we allowed this to go on TV. Like no

1048
00:54:39,333 --> 00:54:41,373
Speaker 2: one really battered much of an eyelid. I'm sure there

1049
00:54:41,413 --> 00:54:43,493
Speaker 2: was a bit of criticism at the time, but largely

1050
00:54:43,693 --> 00:54:47,453
Speaker 2: just it's a it's a good reminder of how in

1051
00:54:47,573 --> 00:54:52,893
Speaker 2: a relatively short period of time, cultural norms and standards change.

1052
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Speaker 2: And I think, yeah, it could be quite shocking, you think,

1053
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Speaker 2: because you know, there's only ten or fifteen years ago

1054
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Speaker 2: and it's totally by today's standards, it's totally inappropriate.

1055
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Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's that's a big takeaway from

1056
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Speaker 18: the show because there are some of the bigger controversies,

1057
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Speaker 18: which we won't going to now, they are shown here,

1058
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Speaker 18: and the effect on the people involved are shown, and

1059
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Speaker 18: there is just no way any of that would fly,

1060
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Speaker 18: let alone the bullying and the discussing how they were

1061
00:55:21,693 --> 00:55:25,253
Speaker 18: discussed on screen, the contestants. It's it's yeah, it would

1062
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Speaker 18: not fly.

1063
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Speaker 2: The body standard stuff a especially you know, these women

1064
00:55:30,293 --> 00:55:33,253
Speaker 2: who are you know, incredibly slight being described as overweight

1065
00:55:33,413 --> 00:55:37,013
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, just totally chubby and yeah, just

1066
00:55:37,133 --> 00:55:39,453
Speaker 2: like anyway, yeah.

1067
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Speaker 6: It really is.

1068
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Speaker 18: So it is a good reminder that things, no matter

1069
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Speaker 18: how bad things feel we have, there has been some progression.

1070
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, things, things have certainly changed. Yeah, so that

1071
00:55:47,973 --> 00:55:50,773
Speaker 2: sounds really interesting. So that's reality check Inside America's Next

1072
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Speaker 2: Top Model. It's streaming on Netflix, streaming on Prime Video.

1073
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Speaker 2: Tell us about Man on the Run.

1074
00:55:56,613 --> 00:55:59,053
Speaker 18: Well, the last few years have been great. I've been

1075
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Speaker 18: fab for Beatles fans. So Pete released his astounding epic

1076
00:56:02,253 --> 00:56:05,813
Speaker 18: eight hour hangout documentary Get Back. There was the remastered

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Speaker 18: rerelease of the nineties Beatles anthology trilogy, and just last

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Speaker 18: year mardin School Safey produced documentary movie Beatles sixty four

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00:56:12,693 --> 00:56:14,973
Speaker 18: came out. This new one, Man on the Run takes

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00:56:15,013 --> 00:56:17,773
Speaker 18: a different tack. It focuses on Bassis Paul McCartney's life

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00:56:17,813 --> 00:56:20,933
Speaker 18: in the aftermath of the band's breakup and the formation

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00:56:21,013 --> 00:56:23,773
Speaker 18: of his follow up band Wings. This was most famously

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00:56:23,853 --> 00:56:27,253
Speaker 18: described by Steve Coogan's comic creation Alan Partridge as only

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00:56:27,333 --> 00:56:29,293
Speaker 18: the band the Beatles could have been, which I think

1085
00:56:29,373 --> 00:56:32,093
Speaker 18: is a great lis. Now Wings went without their hits.

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00:56:32,333 --> 00:56:34,973
Speaker 18: They had Jet Live and Let Die, the entire Band

1087
00:56:35,053 --> 00:56:38,013
Speaker 18: on the Run album, But they're also responsible for a

1088
00:56:38,133 --> 00:56:41,733
Speaker 18: ton of clangers like bit pop and the awful atrocious

1089
00:56:41,813 --> 00:56:44,893
Speaker 18: Mary had a Little Lamb. McCartney was quite lost during

1090
00:56:44,933 --> 00:56:49,053
Speaker 18: this era, and the documentary shows the effect that the breakup.

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00:56:48,813 --> 00:56:49,293
Speaker 6: Had on him.

1092
00:56:49,373 --> 00:56:51,933
Speaker 18: He retreated up into the Highlands on his farm, and

1093
00:56:52,013 --> 00:56:55,933
Speaker 18: he found himself wanting that family camaraderie of a band

1094
00:56:56,053 --> 00:56:59,133
Speaker 18: that close family feeling that he once felt, so he

1095
00:56:59,213 --> 00:57:02,533
Speaker 18: started to put together wings. But as the docco shows,

1096
00:57:02,653 --> 00:57:04,693
Speaker 18: everyone involved was well aware that there was a beetle

1097
00:57:04,733 --> 00:57:08,333
Speaker 18: in their mists, so the band'socracy was not as democratic

1098
00:57:08,373 --> 00:57:09,293
Speaker 18: as perhaps.

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00:57:09,613 --> 00:57:10,773
Speaker 3: He idealized it to be.

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00:57:11,693 --> 00:57:14,413
Speaker 18: As expected, there is a ton of amazing archival footage

1101
00:57:14,533 --> 00:57:17,973
Speaker 18: and never seen before photos things like that, and McCartney

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00:57:18,053 --> 00:57:20,293
Speaker 18: is pretty candid. He reflects on his beef with former

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00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:23,133
Speaker 18: songwriting partner and ex bestie John Lennon. He talks about

1104
00:57:23,133 --> 00:57:25,453
Speaker 18: the time he threw a bucket at a paparazzi photographer

1105
00:57:25,493 --> 00:57:28,773
Speaker 18: and made it fans his farm, talks about almost drowning

1106
00:57:28,813 --> 00:57:31,093
Speaker 18: on holiday as a rest in Japan for smuggling pot

1107
00:57:31,173 --> 00:57:33,733
Speaker 18: into the country. All sorts of those topics and touch

1108
00:57:33,773 --> 00:57:35,253
Speaker 18: point we've all heard about, but now we get to

1109
00:57:35,293 --> 00:57:39,533
Speaker 18: hear him recollecting about. There's also other voices his late

1110
00:57:39,573 --> 00:57:42,293
Speaker 18: wife from the McCartney is present throughout as a former

1111
00:57:42,373 --> 00:57:45,093
Speaker 18: Wings members, talking about how they felt initially and then

1112
00:57:45,173 --> 00:57:48,053
Speaker 18: how their experiences kind of sailed a little bit. Sean

1113
00:57:48,173 --> 00:57:51,533
Speaker 18: Lennon turns up McJagger, people like that, and it's all

1114
00:57:51,573 --> 00:57:55,853
Speaker 18: through new and archival interviews. None of them are seen

1115
00:57:55,893 --> 00:57:58,813
Speaker 18: on screen. It does that familiar trope now where you

1116
00:57:58,933 --> 00:58:01,853
Speaker 18: just hear the voices sort of talking as footage plays out,

1117
00:58:02,053 --> 00:58:04,573
Speaker 18: but it's still very compelling. At around two hours, it

1118
00:58:04,653 --> 00:58:07,413
Speaker 18: does cover a lot of ground, but stockers of this type,

1119
00:58:07,893 --> 00:58:11,973
Speaker 18: it's more a loose overview as it quickly goes through

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00:58:12,333 --> 00:58:16,333
Speaker 18: all these touch points. As a big Beatles fan, there

1121
00:58:16,413 --> 00:58:18,533
Speaker 18: was some new stuff that was revealed to me, but

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00:58:18,613 --> 00:58:21,133
Speaker 18: I would have liked a little bit more in depth

1123
00:58:22,173 --> 00:58:25,333
Speaker 18: examination to those big, bigger points that does talk about,

1124
00:58:25,373 --> 00:58:27,413
Speaker 18: like his solo albums Ram being a flop and how

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00:58:27,413 --> 00:58:29,333
Speaker 18: that affected him. You know, it's a great album making

1126
00:58:29,413 --> 00:58:32,013
Speaker 18: McCartney one and two, which are really really good, So

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00:58:32,373 --> 00:58:35,093
Speaker 18: it's great, but I would have liked certain moments just

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00:58:35,133 --> 00:58:36,693
Speaker 18: to get a little bit in depth. You know, we

1129
00:58:36,773 --> 00:58:39,933
Speaker 18: were sort of spoilt by that Sir Pete's get back.

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00:58:40,013 --> 00:58:42,893
Speaker 18: That was just amazing, so now that's that's that the

1131
00:58:42,973 --> 00:58:45,453
Speaker 18: bar has been set. But of course eight hours it's

1132
00:58:45,493 --> 00:58:46,133
Speaker 18: hard for anything to.

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00:58:46,133 --> 00:58:49,093
Speaker 19: Really connect with Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that sounds good though,

1134
00:58:49,133 --> 00:58:52,653
Speaker 19: I mean and one for one for like for Beatles

1135
00:58:52,693 --> 00:58:55,373
Speaker 19: fans might still find themselves pleasantly surprised by seeing some

1136
00:58:55,453 --> 00:58:56,613
Speaker 19: new images and that kind of thing.

1137
00:58:57,373 --> 00:58:58,173
Speaker 8: Yes, and all the.

1138
00:58:58,133 --> 00:58:59,933
Speaker 18: Stuff of him talking about has beef with Linen and

1139
00:58:59,973 --> 00:59:02,853
Speaker 18: there how they made up. And there's also you know

1140
00:59:03,453 --> 00:59:06,773
Speaker 18: interviews that I had before of Lenen talking about they're

1141
00:59:06,813 --> 00:59:08,573
Speaker 18: fighting and they're getting back and how they were still

1142
00:59:08,613 --> 00:59:10,573
Speaker 18: like brothers and you know, things like that. So there

1143
00:59:10,653 --> 00:59:12,813
Speaker 18: is a lot there, and I would recommend it for

1144
00:59:12,853 --> 00:59:15,693
Speaker 18: Beagles fans and also to someone curious to see what

1145
00:59:15,853 --> 00:59:18,253
Speaker 18: that period was like and how one of the biggest

1146
00:59:18,333 --> 00:59:21,333
Speaker 18: rock stars in the world suddenly found himself adrift and

1147
00:59:21,693 --> 00:59:24,013
Speaker 18: out of step with musically what was happening at the time,

1148
00:59:24,093 --> 00:59:27,253
Speaker 18: and occasionally getting it right, but often getting it quite

1149
00:59:27,253 --> 00:59:28,973
Speaker 18: wrong as well. It's very fascinating.

1150
00:59:29,013 --> 00:59:31,173
Speaker 2: Okay, good. So that's Man on the Run that's on

1151
00:59:31,253 --> 00:59:34,133
Speaker 2: Prime Video. Carl's first pick for us was Reality Check

1152
00:59:34,213 --> 00:59:38,053
Speaker 2: Inside America's Next Top Model, which is on Netflix, and

1153
00:59:38,133 --> 00:59:40,653
Speaker 2: both of those will be up on our website right now.

1154
00:59:40,693 --> 00:59:41,613
Speaker 2: It's ten thirty.

1155
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Speaker 3: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News Talks by the.

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00:59:52,693 --> 01:00:13,413
Speaker 2: Word It's Time and it Hub. You were jactating twenty

1158
01:00:13,453 --> 01:00:16,653
Speaker 2: seven to eleven down under his biggest party, Electric Avenue,

1159
01:00:16,733 --> 01:00:21,133
Speaker 2: got underway in christ UT's yesterday and thousands have descended

1160
01:00:21,293 --> 01:00:26,733
Speaker 2: upon the Three ninety thousand people are attending Electric Avenue

1161
01:00:27,093 --> 01:00:30,013
Speaker 2: across two days yesterday and today. That's less than half

1162
01:00:30,093 --> 01:00:32,093
Speaker 2: of the two hundred thousand people that tried to get

1163
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Speaker 2: their hands on a ticket though. It just shows you

1164
01:00:33,693 --> 01:00:36,613
Speaker 2: how incredibly popular this festival has become. And of course

1165
01:00:37,093 --> 01:00:40,213
Speaker 2: the draw card for so many who were trying to

1166
01:00:40,253 --> 01:00:43,533
Speaker 2: get their hands on tickets was the reunion of New

1167
01:00:43,613 --> 01:00:46,693
Speaker 2: Zealand's art rock legend Split Ends last night. In their

1168
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Speaker 2: first performance in nearly twenty years, Tim and Neil, Eddie

1169
01:00:50,253 --> 01:00:54,173
Speaker 2: Rayner and Noel Crombie, joined by Matt eccles and James Milne,

1170
01:00:54,213 --> 01:00:59,253
Speaker 2: regrouped with trademark Flamboyance on the festival's main stage. Our

1171
01:00:59,373 --> 01:01:02,653
Speaker 2: music reviewer is there. Of course, he seems to get

1172
01:01:02,653 --> 01:01:05,093
Speaker 2: into every single gig going. He's going to join us

1173
01:01:05,093 --> 01:01:08,933
Speaker 2: before midday to all things electric AIRV. I think if

1174
01:01:08,933 --> 01:01:12,493
Speaker 2: your messages stacks of text and emails this morning, Jack,

1175
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Speaker 2: I would love to put the star on the New

1176
01:01:14,453 --> 01:01:17,493
Speaker 2: Zealand Walk of Fame for Keith Urban for all of

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Speaker 2: the fantastic work he's done, says Gary. Thanks for that, Gary,

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Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two. If you want to send us

1179
01:01:21,653 --> 01:01:23,853
Speaker 2: a message, our text Burt is here and a couple

1180
01:01:23,893 --> 01:01:26,653
Speaker 2: of minutes and before eleven o'clock we've got your wine

1181
01:01:26,733 --> 01:01:29,013
Speaker 2: pick for the week from our master Somelier.

1182
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Speaker 3: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 17: The New Zealand's losing money forty million for the six

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Speaker 17: months to decemble, worse than expectant. Nicol Rabishanka is the CEO.

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Speaker 17: If you had all your engines and all your planes,

1186
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Speaker 17: how different would the number.

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Speaker 4: Be for the first half?

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Speaker 7: Mate, did be a ninety million better result.

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Speaker 17: But you see that would barely be making money though,

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Speaker 17: wouldn't it.

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Speaker 7: Yes, the three factors driving the results for us.

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Speaker 20: One of them is our engine issues, the two other

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01:01:54,693 --> 01:01:57,253
Speaker 20: being we're seeing slowered and expected.

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Speaker 8: Demand particularly here domestically, and cost inflashing.

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Speaker 17: You still don't seem to be making the sort of

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01:02:02,573 --> 01:02:05,973
Speaker 17: money other realigns are because travelers booming and their New

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01:02:06,013 --> 01:02:07,173
Speaker 17: Zealand is not booming with it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, domestic is half our business.

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Speaker 17: Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 17: the Defendant News Talk ZB twenty.

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Speaker 2: Three to eleven our News Talk ZB, I was saying

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01:02:17,973 --> 01:02:20,373
Speaker 2: just after nine o'clock this morning that I've had a

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Speaker 2: bit of a wow moment once again with AI. I'm

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01:02:23,933 --> 01:02:27,053
Speaker 2: not a total AI hyper I'm not like going woo

1205
01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:29,893
Speaker 2: for AI everything, but I've had a few moments over

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01:02:29,933 --> 01:02:33,493
Speaker 2: the last couple of years where using the AI tools

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01:02:33,533 --> 01:02:35,493
Speaker 2: that are available, I thought, oh, my goodness, this is

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01:02:35,533 --> 01:02:37,653
Speaker 2: really impressive. So the first time I used chat GPT,

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01:02:37,773 --> 01:02:40,173
Speaker 2: I thought that. The first time I saw some of

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01:02:40,253 --> 01:02:43,533
Speaker 2: the video generation, I thought, okay, this is pretty impressive.

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01:02:44,093 --> 01:02:46,773
Speaker 2: But now, for the first time in my life, I

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01:02:46,933 --> 01:02:50,973
Speaker 2: have created a website, I've created an app. I've created

1213
01:02:51,013 --> 01:02:53,813
Speaker 2: a few other bits and pieces via Vibe Coding, so

1214
01:02:54,093 --> 01:03:00,013
Speaker 2: zero programming experience, zero coding skills, but talking to Clawed code,

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01:03:00,133 --> 01:03:03,213
Speaker 2: which is one of the big AI systems, I've been

1216
01:03:03,253 --> 01:03:07,573
Speaker 2: able to just use English prompts to make some of

1217
01:03:07,653 --> 01:03:10,533
Speaker 2: these things, which has been quite quite a remarkable and

1218
01:03:10,613 --> 01:03:14,133
Speaker 2: magic thing to experience. Honestly, our textbook, Paul Stenhouse is

1219
01:03:14,333 --> 01:03:17,173
Speaker 2: a little more skillful, a little more TechEd adapt than I,

1220
01:03:18,053 --> 01:03:19,933
Speaker 2: tech adept than I am, and he's with us. Now

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01:03:20,333 --> 01:03:22,653
Speaker 2: to Paul year morning Jack.

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Speaker 20: So you went straight for Claude code. That's pretty impressive

1223
01:03:25,533 --> 01:03:27,773
Speaker 20: because you Claud code you have to use in the terminal.

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01:03:27,893 --> 01:03:29,213
Speaker 2: Did you use it in the term You don't have

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01:03:29,253 --> 01:03:32,733
Speaker 2: to use it on the screen, No, you don't the

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01:03:32,773 --> 01:03:35,133
Speaker 2: desktop app. I use the desktop app to do it.

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01:03:35,293 --> 01:03:39,613
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, no, I tried open the terminal. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I've connected to get hub.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 2: See, I got clawed. I said, Claude, treat me like

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01:03:43,693 --> 01:03:45,613
Speaker 2: an idiot. I talked to the chatbot. First of all,

1232
01:03:45,653 --> 01:03:48,773
Speaker 2: I said, treat me like an idiot, Claud, and it said,

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01:03:48,813 --> 01:03:51,773
Speaker 2: don't worry, Jack, we know you're an idiot. And I said,

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01:03:51,853 --> 01:03:54,533
Speaker 2: you tell me, like, talk me through and really basic

1235
01:03:54,613 --> 01:03:56,253
Speaker 2: steps what I need to do. And I said, okay,

1236
01:03:56,293 --> 01:03:57,813
Speaker 2: you need to get a GitHub account, you need to

1237
01:03:57,853 --> 01:03:59,453
Speaker 2: use terminal. I did that and then I was like, oh,

1238
01:03:59,493 --> 01:04:00,933
Speaker 2: the easier way to do this is this on the

1239
01:04:00,973 --> 01:04:02,213
Speaker 2: desktop app. So that's what I did.

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Speaker 6: But I mean it is.

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01:04:04,053 --> 01:04:06,133
Speaker 2: I mean it is. It's hard to distinguish the AI

1242
01:04:06,573 --> 01:04:09,893
Speaker 2: from reality, right and to work out how warranted it is.

1243
01:04:10,893 --> 01:04:13,853
Speaker 2: But in seeing what it could do with my basic

1244
01:04:14,533 --> 01:04:18,493
Speaker 2: English language prompt and seeing how quickly it could do it,

1245
01:04:18,493 --> 01:04:21,373
Speaker 2: it's hard not to imagine that people who are a

1246
01:04:21,413 --> 01:04:23,773
Speaker 2: little more skillful than me when it comes to computer

1247
01:04:23,853 --> 01:04:26,853
Speaker 2: programming and coding and stuff are able to build really

1248
01:04:26,933 --> 01:04:27,693
Speaker 2: impressive things.

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01:04:28,533 --> 01:04:29,333
Speaker 8: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 20: I think what's really fascinating about the AI type stuff

1251
01:04:33,493 --> 01:04:36,493
Speaker 20: is that if you're a really good communicator and you

1252
01:04:36,693 --> 01:04:40,573
Speaker 20: know the right terminology and the words in particular industries,

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01:04:41,253 --> 01:04:44,173
Speaker 20: you can go really far. And the thing in AI

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01:04:44,373 --> 01:04:47,173
Speaker 20: is that every single word matters. So when you're thinking

1255
01:04:47,173 --> 01:04:50,133
Speaker 20: about how you're prompting it and what you're saying, it

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01:04:50,373 --> 01:04:52,893
Speaker 20: just gets better and better, the more specific and the

1257
01:04:53,013 --> 01:04:55,733
Speaker 20: more if you're using the correct terminology, it.

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01:04:56,293 --> 01:04:56,853
Speaker 4: Just does things.

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01:04:56,893 --> 01:04:58,333
Speaker 20: It doesn't have to guess as much, it doesn't make

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01:04:58,413 --> 01:05:01,333
Speaker 20: quite as many mistakes because what it is really is

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01:05:01,653 --> 01:05:04,813
Speaker 20: auto complete on steroids. Yeah right, it's looking at this

1262
01:05:05,253 --> 01:05:08,613
Speaker 20: massive amount of animation, old projects and all this sort

1263
01:05:08,653 --> 01:05:11,373
Speaker 20: of stuff, and it's literally just like comparing ones and

1264
01:05:11,453 --> 01:05:13,733
Speaker 20: two ones and two ones and zeros, I should say,

1265
01:05:14,093 --> 01:05:16,213
Speaker 20: And it just literally is looking to see where the

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01:05:16,293 --> 01:05:16,893
Speaker 20: patterns are.

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01:05:17,413 --> 01:05:20,253
Speaker 18: And that's but you can create with it.

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01:05:20,413 --> 01:05:22,053
Speaker 20: It's it is, it's remarkable.

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Speaker 2: But the thing that's interesting is it can work backwards.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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01:05:24,653 --> 01:05:27,493
Speaker 2: So if you say to it, you know, I want

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01:05:27,653 --> 01:05:30,653
Speaker 2: a rhyming sonnet, and you give it the first line,

1273
01:05:31,453 --> 01:05:33,773
Speaker 2: so make me a rhyming like like or give me

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01:05:33,773 --> 01:05:36,453
Speaker 2: a rhyming couplet, right, So so I want I want

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01:05:36,493 --> 01:05:38,053
Speaker 2: you to come up with a second line that makes

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01:05:38,093 --> 01:05:38,973
Speaker 2: sense and rhymes with this.

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01:05:39,733 --> 01:05:40,133
Speaker 5: It will.

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01:05:40,893 --> 01:05:43,893
Speaker 2: If it were just autocomplete on steroids, then it would

1279
01:05:43,893 --> 01:05:46,253
Speaker 2: just that the obvious thing would is that it would

1280
01:05:46,293 --> 01:05:47,733
Speaker 2: go to the next word, and then the next word,

1281
01:05:47,773 --> 01:05:49,813
Speaker 2: and then and then then the next word. But it

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01:05:49,973 --> 01:05:52,813
Speaker 2: knows because you want a rhyming couplet, that it's got

1283
01:05:52,893 --> 01:05:55,373
Speaker 2: to start with the rhyming point and then work backwards.

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01:05:55,853 --> 01:05:58,533
Speaker 2: So it's smart enough to do. I mean, that's quite

1285
01:05:58,533 --> 01:06:00,693
Speaker 2: a basic example, but it's smart enough to be able

1286
01:06:00,773 --> 01:06:05,213
Speaker 2: to kind of contextualize requests in that way. Yeah, I mean,

1287
01:06:05,253 --> 01:06:07,213
Speaker 2: the thing that's amazing about these new systems too is

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01:06:07,213 --> 01:06:10,773
Speaker 2: that obviously a lot of the code for the systems

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Speaker 2: themselves is being written by the system, which is it's fundating.

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Speaker 20: It's incredible, wasn't it. It's crazily circular. Okay, So can

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01:06:17,933 --> 01:06:18,093
Speaker 20: we go?

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01:06:18,253 --> 01:06:18,613
Speaker 10: Can we go?

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01:06:18,693 --> 01:06:21,533
Speaker 20: Slightly even more dystopian? So there's Jack Tame, you know,

1294
01:06:22,133 --> 01:06:25,293
Speaker 20: New Zealand's sexiest personal live turned software engineer.

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01:06:25,653 --> 01:06:26,053
Speaker 4: What was it?

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01:06:26,173 --> 01:06:27,453
Speaker 18: Wasn't it the award you won?

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01:06:27,853 --> 01:06:29,093
Speaker 2: Wasn't it a few years ago?

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Speaker 13: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I mean you were the one who bought it up.

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01:06:31,813 --> 01:06:34,493
Speaker 2: But you know, we need to get lost in ancient history.

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Speaker 20: Okay, So imagine yourself. You're now working at the US Department.

1302
01:06:38,613 --> 01:06:41,173
Speaker 2: Of War, yep, and you.

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01:06:43,773 --> 01:06:46,893
Speaker 20: You just create a little app and it decides that

1304
01:06:46,973 --> 01:06:49,533
Speaker 20: it wants to launch an attack from an overhead drone.

1305
01:06:50,253 --> 01:06:53,133
Speaker 20: Is that a good idea or a bad idea?

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01:06:53,493 --> 01:06:54,813
Speaker 4: Because it's happening.

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01:06:55,213 --> 01:06:58,453
Speaker 20: Well, the conversation about that exact thing is happening right now.

1308
01:06:58,493 --> 01:07:00,373
Speaker 20: And while I was waiting to talk to you, I

1309
01:07:00,453 --> 01:07:03,733
Speaker 20: got an alert from CNN saying that because of this

1310
01:07:04,013 --> 01:07:08,453
Speaker 20: rift between anthropic who makes flawed code and clawed the chatbox,

1311
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Speaker 20: they've got some hardlines in the stand. They work with

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Speaker 20: the Department of Defense slash war at the moment, and

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Speaker 20: they've said, you're not going to be using it for

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Speaker 20: anything like that. We do not want, like, you can't

1315
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Speaker 20: just start launching missiles that AI directed, and AI decided no,

1316
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Speaker 20: thank you. It also said you won't be using this

1317
01:07:28,173 --> 01:07:30,733
Speaker 20: to help surveil the public. So I guess looking at

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Speaker 20: vast quantities of data and figuring out things that are

1319
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Speaker 20: going on, the Department of Defense lash War said, well,

1320
01:07:38,453 --> 01:07:41,173
Speaker 20: we want to use it, and we don't want you

1321
01:07:41,293 --> 01:07:43,933
Speaker 20: to say what we can and can't do, And so

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Speaker 20: they have until it's currently four forty three here in

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Speaker 20: New York at the moment. They had until five one

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Speaker 20: pm to reach an agreement with the Department of Defense.

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Speaker 20: But President Trump has just tweeted a truth social I

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01:07:58,453 --> 01:08:02,373
Speaker 20: should say, and said that every government department now has

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01:08:02,533 --> 01:08:07,973
Speaker 20: six months to get off everything Anthropic and the Department

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01:08:08,213 --> 01:08:10,893
Speaker 20: of Defense is now deciding whether or not they'll be

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01:08:10,973 --> 01:08:14,173
Speaker 20: invoking the Defense Production Act. Well they were previously. Who

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01:08:14,213 --> 01:08:16,293
Speaker 20: knows what they're doing now, but the talk was they'd be.

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01:08:16,773 --> 01:08:18,813
Speaker 20: The threat was they were saying they'd invoke the Defense

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Speaker 20: Production Act, which would force Anthropic to make its product available,

1333
01:08:23,573 --> 01:08:25,173
Speaker 20: or they're going to go down a different road and

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Speaker 20: label it a supply chain risk to prevent every military supplier,

1335
01:08:29,693 --> 01:08:33,973
Speaker 20: which there are obviously a number from using it. So

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Speaker 20: crazy kind of situation at the moment. And you've got Anthropic,

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Speaker 20: whose biggest competitor is open AI behind chat GPT that

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Speaker 20: has backed Anthropic and said, yeah, those guardrails and things

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01:08:46,333 --> 01:08:51,013
Speaker 20: sound you know, probably pretty good. So it sounds like

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Speaker 20: it's going to be the Department of War battling the

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Speaker 20: AI companies.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's going to be amazing to see how this

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Speaker 2: scends up. And it certainly sounds like what you've advised us.

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Speaker 2: Read the president's response means that it's only going to

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01:09:04,133 --> 01:09:07,053
Speaker 2: get more and more feisty from here. Thank you, Paul Textbert,

1347
01:09:07,093 --> 01:09:08,973
Speaker 2: Paul Stenhouse. There's going to be one to watch over

1348
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Speaker 2: the next few well minutes, hours, weeks, months, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen to eleven. Our Master Somalier with his pick for

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Speaker 2: the weekend. Next.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend then with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talk said fourteen.

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Speaker 2: To eleven and our Master Somalia Cameron Douglas has chosen

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Speaker 2: for his wine this week and a stern semillon twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one from hawks Bay for retelling it about twenty

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Speaker 2: four dollars. He's for the snag. Get a cameron, good morning,

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Speaker 2: that's right, A semeon skin.

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Speaker 12: Both pronounciation, yeah, both pronouncings. Pronunciations are correct. If you're French,

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01:09:48,213 --> 01:09:50,453
Speaker 12: you tend to swallow the end of the words, so you.

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Speaker 2: Say seem and I like to weve it's a year

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01:09:55,013 --> 01:09:57,933
Speaker 2: of sophistication on Saturday morning. Yes, so yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: we'll seme on sem on very good. Okay, So tell

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Speaker 2: us about the wine.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 12: Semeon is in a grape thatlds from Bordeaux in France

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Speaker 12: and cultivated around the world and does particularly well in

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Speaker 12: Hawks Bay, New Zealand. As a dry white wine right

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Speaker 12: through to a sweet dessert style can be found, and

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Speaker 12: this particular one is really really nice. It has this

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Speaker 12: wonderful sort of waxy citrus peel, apple peach bouquet and

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01:10:26,613 --> 01:10:29,013
Speaker 12: that follows through nicely on the palette with a little

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Speaker 12: bit of fruit spice and dry stone minerality. It's a

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Speaker 12: wine with lots of charm and a satin cream type texture.

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Speaker 12: It's not too dissimilar. It has some touch points that

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01:10:40,773 --> 01:10:43,293
Speaker 12: are not too dissimilar to Sauvignon blanc, but it doesn't

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01:10:43,333 --> 01:10:47,093
Speaker 12: have that tropical herbaceous drive of Sauvignon blanc. There's a

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Speaker 12: really interesting you know, I use that word waxy before,

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01:10:51,093 --> 01:10:53,773
Speaker 12: and it's this oiliness that you get in the bouquet

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Speaker 12: of the wine. But it doesn't have a particular chemical makeup,

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Speaker 12: but it is similar to the lannyl and oil you

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01:10:59,813 --> 01:11:03,973
Speaker 12: might find and some other fruits. Yeah, so that's where

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Speaker 12: the waxy word comes from.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so tell us about the sea in it.

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Speaker 12: Well, twenty twenty five has the potential and is showing

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01:11:12,173 --> 01:11:14,253
Speaker 12: to be true with all of the wines I get

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01:11:14,333 --> 01:11:17,613
Speaker 12: to taste to be one of the better vintegers for

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Speaker 12: the region and New Zealand that had that dry spring,

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Speaker 12: lots of flowering and low wind, which meant that the

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Speaker 12: crop levels were higher and they had an earlier harvest.

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Speaker 12: In fact, overall harvests tending towards a lot earlier this

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Speaker 12: year round as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what would you match you with?

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Speaker 12: Well, if you're going for a young, dryer style of semon,

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Speaker 12: then you and unoaked oysters work particularly well. My preference

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01:11:47,573 --> 01:11:52,173
Speaker 12: leans toward that sort of sushi sushimi, prawn rice dishes.

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Speaker 7: Side.

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Speaker 12: But if you like semeon with a tiny bit of

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01:11:57,333 --> 01:12:00,053
Speaker 12: older barrel or oaken there. Then you can lean into

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Speaker 12: that chicken pork dishes.

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Speaker 4: They work particularly well.

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01:12:03,213 --> 01:12:06,253
Speaker 12: Also, anything that's got a little bit of saltiness in

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01:12:06,293 --> 01:12:08,573
Speaker 12: it in the food, you know, sort of that Jamie

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01:12:08,613 --> 01:12:12,373
Speaker 12: Oliver sprinkle of salt works well with this wine because

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01:12:12,373 --> 01:12:15,453
Speaker 12: it's got great acid line. It's particularly high on acid.

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01:12:15,533 --> 01:12:18,773
Speaker 12: So it's juicy, fresh, delicious, just a lovely wine.

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01:12:18,933 --> 01:12:20,813
Speaker 2: And what does that mean for like lasting in the fridge?

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01:12:20,813 --> 01:12:21,813
Speaker 2: Will it last few days?

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01:12:22,693 --> 01:12:24,813
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's one of those wines I get to, you know,

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01:12:24,933 --> 01:12:26,893
Speaker 12: I put the wine in the fridge and taste it.

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01:12:27,053 --> 01:12:28,613
Speaker 12: I bring it out, bring it to room temperature and

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01:12:28,613 --> 01:12:30,853
Speaker 12: taste it. So over a two or three day period,

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01:12:30,933 --> 01:12:34,413
Speaker 12: this wine holds its integrity. It tastes exactly the same,

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01:12:35,133 --> 01:12:37,813
Speaker 12: which means that you can spread it out over a

1414
01:12:37,893 --> 01:12:40,213
Speaker 12: few days, or if you're a one glass a day person,

1415
01:12:40,853 --> 01:12:42,773
Speaker 12: or you can pop it in your salafas. Every year,

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01:12:42,813 --> 01:12:44,453
Speaker 12: Semion ages particularly well.

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01:12:44,653 --> 01:12:47,213
Speaker 2: Oh very good. Hey, thanks Cameron. So camera's picked for

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Speaker 2: us this week and a Skern Semion from Hawks Bay

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01:12:50,373 --> 01:12:53,053
Speaker 2: retails of about twenty three ninety nine. The details will

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01:12:53,053 --> 01:12:54,973
Speaker 2: be on the news talks. He'd be website.

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01:12:55,293 --> 01:12:58,453
Speaker 3: Godling we still sharp charge for life this summer.

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01:12:59,653 --> 01:13:01,933
Speaker 2: Rootcline passes our man in the garden.

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Speaker 10: Good morning, any, very good morning to you doctor team

1424
01:13:05,613 --> 01:13:07,773
Speaker 10: that you've had with your tomatoes, I know.

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01:13:07,973 --> 01:13:09,773
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know troubles. I don't know if I've

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01:13:09,813 --> 01:13:12,053
Speaker 2: had troubles I just had, do you know? I actually

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Speaker 2: think I've had the best season I've had with my

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01:13:13,693 --> 01:13:17,093
Speaker 2: tomatoes at the family home. No, I've had a really

1429
01:13:17,133 --> 01:13:19,893
Speaker 2: good season because I just grew cherry tomatoes. I got

1430
01:13:20,013 --> 01:13:21,413
Speaker 2: kind of, to be honest, I got sick of the

1431
01:13:21,493 --> 01:13:25,293
Speaker 2: chunkier tomato varietals because I was just kind of having

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01:13:25,333 --> 01:13:27,293
Speaker 2: issues with them. And then they'd be really I'd get

1433
01:13:27,333 --> 01:13:30,733
Speaker 2: the kind of the central fleshiness, but they'd be like

1434
01:13:30,893 --> 01:13:34,653
Speaker 2: overly fleshy, whereas the whereas the cherry tomatoes are quite

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01:13:35,173 --> 01:13:39,773
Speaker 2: they've been quite sweet, they've been abundant, but they're done.

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Speaker 10: Funny that because you know, we've had a very creepy summer,

1437
01:13:45,893 --> 01:13:48,773
Speaker 10: if you like. I mean even in Auckland, Ay, it

1438
01:13:48,893 --> 01:13:49,813
Speaker 10: was just ridiculous.

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01:13:49,893 --> 01:13:50,053
Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:13:50,133 --> 01:13:52,933
Speaker 10: Yeah, and there's and we were making it even a

1441
01:13:52,973 --> 01:13:55,693
Speaker 10: bit more difficult. We had to build a new tunnel

1442
01:13:55,733 --> 01:13:59,133
Speaker 10: house from Worriyfield Greenhouses and in Vergagle, and that was

1443
01:13:59,213 --> 01:14:03,093
Speaker 10: done just littlely after Christmas. Now can you imagine I

1444
01:14:03,253 --> 01:14:06,613
Speaker 10: had nowhere to put any tomatoes at all. I just

1445
01:14:06,653 --> 01:14:09,293
Speaker 10: said about four of these things for five of these things,

1446
01:14:09,413 --> 01:14:12,613
Speaker 10: waiting for the tunnel house to be put up, and

1447
01:14:13,533 --> 01:14:16,853
Speaker 10: suddenly I started working. How do you do that so quick?

1448
01:14:16,893 --> 01:14:19,293
Speaker 10: Because it's well beyond the normal time, isn't it.

1449
01:14:19,493 --> 01:14:20,453
Speaker 4: Of course, so I thought.

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01:14:21,133 --> 01:14:23,533
Speaker 10: And so the last thing you said last week was yeah,

1451
01:14:23,613 --> 01:14:26,293
Speaker 10: the tomatoes are finished, and I thought, no, blow it.

1452
01:14:26,773 --> 01:14:31,053
Speaker 10: We can do better than that. So here are the

1453
01:14:31,133 --> 01:14:34,333
Speaker 10: stories of how to keep your tomatoes going. Get yourself

1454
01:14:34,373 --> 01:14:37,573
Speaker 10: a greenhouse versus the wall. You know, it is a

1455
01:14:37,693 --> 01:14:40,373
Speaker 10: bit warmer, to be quite honest, but it was still

1456
01:14:40,573 --> 01:14:44,373
Speaker 10: rotten here in christ It's okay. Here comes to thing.

1457
01:14:45,213 --> 01:14:48,293
Speaker 10: You need to put the tomato in a really nice,

1458
01:14:48,453 --> 01:14:51,893
Speaker 10: warm area, which is what I did in the new greenhouse.

1459
01:14:52,573 --> 01:14:56,973
Speaker 10: Six hours or more of sun is important, so that

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01:14:57,573 --> 01:15:00,613
Speaker 10: probably seven or eight would be even better. Now you

1461
01:15:01,253 --> 01:15:03,733
Speaker 10: take off this is important. You take the laterals off

1462
01:15:03,893 --> 01:15:06,253
Speaker 10: at the bottom, which are all the little bits of

1463
01:15:06,453 --> 01:15:09,053
Speaker 10: pieces that grow up which are not going to give

1464
01:15:09,093 --> 01:15:12,213
Speaker 10: you any fruit at all. But also at ground level,

1465
01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:16,293
Speaker 10: you've got to take those little things out of there

1466
01:15:16,613 --> 01:15:21,773
Speaker 10: because you need a lot of decent airflow there to

1467
01:15:21,893 --> 01:15:26,493
Speaker 10: stop everybody getting stroubles, you know. Number Three, you use

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01:15:26,573 --> 01:15:30,213
Speaker 10: the best soil that you can get to put around

1469
01:15:30,333 --> 01:15:33,453
Speaker 10: your main plant, because even your plant could have actually

1470
01:15:33,493 --> 01:15:36,493
Speaker 10: gone a bit longer, I would say, and the roots

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01:15:36,533 --> 01:15:39,133
Speaker 10: go down better than and they are much more resilient

1472
01:15:39,213 --> 01:15:43,213
Speaker 10: as well. Finally, you get no, not finally, almost finally

1473
01:15:43,253 --> 01:15:45,933
Speaker 10: you get rid of the yellow leaves. Did you get

1474
01:15:46,013 --> 01:15:47,173
Speaker 10: yellow leaves on your plants?

1475
01:15:47,893 --> 01:15:51,373
Speaker 2: Only a couple, not too many? Yeah, okay, yeah, I

1476
01:15:51,493 --> 01:15:52,893
Speaker 2: want to Okay, yeah.

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01:15:53,173 --> 01:15:56,133
Speaker 10: Secrets, get them off, forget about them. You don't need them,

1478
01:15:56,573 --> 01:15:59,413
Speaker 10: all right, And then here comes the watering regime, and

1479
01:15:59,493 --> 01:16:03,453
Speaker 10: this is probably mostly important. Your water once a week,

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01:16:04,853 --> 01:16:09,053
Speaker 10: every ten days maybe decent watering really lots put a

1481
01:16:09,093 --> 01:16:12,013
Speaker 10: bit of nicoposca blue in the air. But every other

1482
01:16:12,293 --> 01:16:15,493
Speaker 10: day you'll follow it up with regular use of what

1483
01:16:15,613 --> 01:16:19,173
Speaker 10: I call liquid fertilizer. And my favorite one for tomatoes

1484
01:16:19,213 --> 01:16:23,533
Speaker 10: is seaweed tea from wet and forget so every two days, yeah,

1485
01:16:23,573 --> 01:16:27,573
Speaker 10: because that actually makes the flowers come and then the

1486
01:16:27,653 --> 01:16:30,613
Speaker 10: fruit set as well, and if you do that on

1487
01:16:30,733 --> 01:16:33,453
Speaker 10: a regular two day basis, you'll find the devil work

1488
01:16:33,613 --> 01:16:36,893
Speaker 10: and ten days later again big lot of water again

1489
01:16:37,013 --> 01:16:39,533
Speaker 10: to really make it nois and moist and all that

1490
01:16:39,613 --> 01:16:40,173
Speaker 10: sort of stuff.

1491
01:16:40,693 --> 01:16:42,733
Speaker 2: Once you do that much fertilizer are you giving in?

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01:16:44,093 --> 01:16:46,493
Speaker 10: I put a little bit of no Nitroposca blue in

1493
01:16:46,573 --> 01:16:49,613
Speaker 10: the root zone. But what I give them is seaweed tea,

1494
01:16:49,733 --> 01:16:52,213
Speaker 10: which is something that you can mix with water and

1495
01:16:52,333 --> 01:16:55,173
Speaker 10: your watering can and literally you don't just water it

1496
01:16:55,253 --> 01:16:58,573
Speaker 10: a little bit, you also fertilize it at the same time,

1497
01:16:59,173 --> 01:17:02,733
Speaker 10: and then the plant opens everything it has and guess what,

1498
01:17:03,613 --> 01:17:07,053
Speaker 10: even Jactane will have still tomatoes at this time of

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01:17:07,093 --> 01:17:07,453
Speaker 10: the year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, very good, because I'll tell you what. The cucumber

1501
01:17:10,853 --> 01:17:13,493
Speaker 2: is still absolutely gunning it, crushing it at the moment.

1502
01:17:13,653 --> 01:17:16,853
Speaker 2: So thank you for that. Okay, Well, look, each year

1503
01:17:16,973 --> 01:17:19,533
Speaker 2: if we just aim to improve slightly on the year before.

1504
01:17:19,413 --> 01:17:21,453
Speaker 7: So you know, I know you do.

1505
01:17:21,653 --> 01:17:23,173
Speaker 10: That's why I want to keep you going.

1506
01:17:23,533 --> 01:17:23,933
Speaker 4: Very good.

1507
01:17:24,173 --> 01:17:27,693
Speaker 2: Thanks road climb, passing the garden for us. We'll wait

1508
01:17:27,773 --> 01:17:31,293
Speaker 2: for those tips and that seaweed tea are up on

1509
01:17:31,453 --> 01:17:33,853
Speaker 2: the news talks. He'd be website after eleven o'clock on

1510
01:17:33,893 --> 01:17:35,453
Speaker 2: news Talks, he'd be, Oh, we've got a couple of

1511
01:17:35,533 --> 01:17:38,333
Speaker 2: cracking reads to recommend. Our book review is going to

1512
01:17:38,333 --> 01:17:41,453
Speaker 2: be and she's looking at spies and other gods. This

1513
01:17:41,733 --> 01:17:43,733
Speaker 2: really really interesting new book sounds like a better me

1514
01:17:43,853 --> 01:17:47,333
Speaker 2: as well as that our sustainability expert on her tips

1515
01:17:47,933 --> 01:17:50,973
Speaker 2: on sustainable tramping and hiking. She'll be with us after

1516
01:17:51,013 --> 01:17:53,373
Speaker 2: the news news is next time. It's almost eleven o'clock.

1517
01:17:53,533 --> 01:17:56,293
Speaker 2: I'm Jactam. It's Saturday morning. This is news Talks. It'd be.

1518
01:17:59,093 --> 01:18:02,853
Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

1519
01:18:02,933 --> 01:18:04,253
Speaker 1: the weekend news talks.

1520
01:18:04,293 --> 01:18:04,613
Speaker 6: It'd be.

1521
01:18:28,253 --> 01:18:30,893
Speaker 2: More you're a jactatim on news Talks. You'd be thank

1522
01:18:30,973 --> 01:18:32,933
Speaker 2: you for turning us on this morning, thank you for

1523
01:18:33,013 --> 01:18:35,173
Speaker 2: tuning it. It is so good to have you here.

1524
01:18:35,853 --> 01:18:37,893
Speaker 2: Although I've got to be honest, I'm a little bit envious.

1525
01:18:38,373 --> 01:18:40,013
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit envious. I wish I was back

1526
01:18:40,053 --> 01:18:44,333
Speaker 2: home in the three today. Electric av just looks extraordinary.

1527
01:18:45,093 --> 01:18:47,893
Speaker 2: Every year it gets bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.

1528
01:18:47,973 --> 01:18:51,933
Speaker 2: The lineup this year is amazing, And just to think

1529
01:18:52,013 --> 01:18:56,333
Speaker 2: that what eighty thousand people, eighty ninety thousand people are

1530
01:18:56,373 --> 01:18:58,813
Speaker 2: going to be making their way sometime over the two

1531
01:18:58,893 --> 01:19:01,933
Speaker 2: day festival. Last night, of course things kicked off some

1532
01:19:02,133 --> 01:19:07,533
Speaker 2: amazing acts, Lights of the Streets, Basement, Jack's Lab, Super Groove,

1533
01:19:07,613 --> 01:19:11,133
Speaker 2: we're playing last night, Drags Project, and of course Split

1534
01:19:11,293 --> 01:19:15,093
Speaker 2: Ins kicking things off for night one on the main stage.

1535
01:19:15,173 --> 01:19:18,533
Speaker 2: So before midday, we're going to go to our music reviewer,

1536
01:19:18,613 --> 01:19:21,813
Speaker 2: Chris Schultz. He I think goes to more live shows

1537
01:19:21,853 --> 01:19:24,333
Speaker 2: than anyone I've even thoughn in my entire life. He

1538
01:19:24,493 --> 01:19:27,013
Speaker 2: was there for Split INDs performing together for the first

1539
01:19:27,053 --> 01:19:28,933
Speaker 2: time in almost twenty years last night, so he's going

1540
01:19:28,973 --> 01:19:31,013
Speaker 2: to tell us about that performance and we will see

1541
01:19:31,053 --> 01:19:36,013
Speaker 2: who he is planning to prioritize with the remaining acts today,

1542
01:19:36,253 --> 01:19:38,813
Speaker 2: counting down to Dom Dollar playing later on this evening,

1543
01:19:38,893 --> 01:19:40,533
Speaker 2: so very much looking forward to that as well as that.

1544
01:19:40,613 --> 01:19:42,813
Speaker 2: If you're having a slightly quiet weekend, well I don't know,

1545
01:19:42,893 --> 01:19:45,973
Speaker 2: maybe maybe you're heading up the Electric av main stage

1546
01:19:46,453 --> 01:19:48,733
Speaker 2: later on this evening, but you just want to save

1547
01:19:48,813 --> 01:19:52,173
Speaker 2: a little bit of energy. Then we've got two fantastic

1548
01:19:52,253 --> 01:19:55,013
Speaker 2: books to recommend. When our book reviewer joins us very

1549
01:19:55,013 --> 01:19:58,093
Speaker 2: shortly right now though it is nine minutes past eleven,

1550
01:19:58,453 --> 01:20:01,373
Speaker 2: Jack team and time to catch up with our sustainability

1551
01:20:01,573 --> 01:20:03,853
Speaker 2: expert Kate Hall's here with us this morning. Killed her.

1552
01:20:04,893 --> 01:20:07,053
Speaker 2: You've chosen a subject close to my heart this morning,

1553
01:20:07,133 --> 01:20:08,373
Speaker 2: or though has to be said, I haven't been doing

1554
01:20:08,413 --> 01:20:11,613
Speaker 2: a whole lot of tramping over the last year or

1555
01:20:11,853 --> 01:20:15,973
Speaker 2: so since our family expanded a little bit. Has been

1556
01:20:16,013 --> 01:20:17,493
Speaker 2: a great cell to my wife and Ham are going

1557
01:20:17,533 --> 01:20:19,813
Speaker 2: to pop off for three nights and just go and go. Bush.

1558
01:20:19,853 --> 01:20:22,293
Speaker 2: I'm going to be uncontactable, but you have to for

1559
01:20:22,373 --> 01:20:25,293
Speaker 2: us this morning on sustainable tramping and hiking.

1560
01:20:26,333 --> 01:20:29,173
Speaker 21: Yes, yeah, and like you, I haven't done as much

1561
01:20:30,013 --> 01:20:32,013
Speaker 21: as I would have liked to have the last little while.

1562
01:20:32,053 --> 01:20:35,493
Speaker 21: But I just got it one of those that carry

1563
01:20:35,853 --> 01:20:40,613
Speaker 21: kind of hiking pack car things. So I hope to

1564
01:20:40,733 --> 01:20:42,533
Speaker 21: do more. Yeah, more hiking.

1565
01:20:42,693 --> 01:20:44,573
Speaker 2: I've got. I've got one of those. We were we

1566
01:20:44,653 --> 01:20:47,533
Speaker 2: were gifted a second hand one buy some some friends.

1567
01:20:47,693 --> 01:20:50,813
Speaker 2: And it's so good. It's so yeah.

1568
01:20:50,853 --> 01:20:51,053
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1569
01:20:51,253 --> 01:20:53,373
Speaker 2: It's even got like a little it's got like a

1570
01:20:53,413 --> 01:20:57,413
Speaker 2: little sun slash rain hood. You put it like a

1571
01:20:57,453 --> 01:20:59,653
Speaker 2: little canopy that you put over heat. It's so good.

1572
01:21:00,253 --> 01:21:03,253
Speaker 21: It's like I wish they had those little sunshades that's

1573
01:21:03,293 --> 01:21:05,373
Speaker 21: for you know, to put on your pack so you

1574
01:21:05,453 --> 01:21:10,013
Speaker 21: could you could have fun. Yeah, really handy speaking, I

1575
01:21:10,093 --> 01:21:13,133
Speaker 21: mean that's great. You got that, you know from friends, right,

1576
01:21:13,173 --> 01:21:16,653
Speaker 21: So that's what i'd say by second hand outdoor clothing

1577
01:21:16,653 --> 01:21:19,493
Speaker 21: and equipment, borrowing or hiring as well. I think a

1578
01:21:19,533 --> 01:21:22,893
Speaker 21: lot of people go, oh, I'm going to go tramping,

1579
01:21:22,973 --> 01:21:25,053
Speaker 21: that's going to be my new thing, and they go

1580
01:21:25,293 --> 01:21:27,893
Speaker 21: and you can spend you know, a thousand bucks on

1581
01:21:28,453 --> 01:21:31,893
Speaker 21: like buying all the stuff and then you may not

1582
01:21:31,973 --> 01:21:35,213
Speaker 21: even you know, use it at the coffpo where may

1583
01:21:35,253 --> 01:21:39,013
Speaker 21: be really really quite high. So yeah, borrowing or hiring

1584
01:21:39,253 --> 01:21:42,133
Speaker 21: is really really important. But that's why there is such

1585
01:21:42,173 --> 01:21:46,493
Speaker 21: a great secondhand market for outdoor tramping stuff because you

1586
01:21:46,613 --> 01:21:49,493
Speaker 21: can find people who thought they're going to get into tramping,

1587
01:21:49,853 --> 01:21:53,813
Speaker 21: bought all the gear but haven't actually used it. So yeah,

1588
01:21:53,853 --> 01:21:57,973
Speaker 21: it's a really great kind of section of your life

1589
01:21:58,053 --> 01:22:01,373
Speaker 21: to get second hand because there's just so much good

1590
01:22:01,453 --> 01:22:05,933
Speaker 21: like new stuff out there on the online sicken hand platforms.

1591
01:22:06,493 --> 01:22:10,813
Speaker 21: Choosing durable and repairable gear over the old cheap options.

1592
01:22:11,253 --> 01:22:13,053
Speaker 21: I know it might be hard if you're just starting

1593
01:22:13,133 --> 01:22:16,573
Speaker 21: out and you're wondering if you're actually going to get

1594
01:22:16,653 --> 01:22:19,853
Speaker 21: into trampion or not, but that means it's also a

1595
01:22:19,933 --> 01:22:25,253
Speaker 21: bit more resellable. So yeah, the durable goods stuff, the

1596
01:22:25,373 --> 01:22:28,493
Speaker 21: brands you know, and trust rather than.

1597
01:22:29,053 --> 01:22:33,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cheap So funny you mention that my parents,

1598
01:22:33,653 --> 01:22:36,453
Speaker 2: you know, when they were you know, when they were

1599
01:22:36,573 --> 01:22:39,293
Speaker 2: kind of first married, they loved doing a bit of

1600
01:22:39,333 --> 01:22:43,493
Speaker 2: tramping themselves, and they went kind of backpacking around the world.

1601
01:22:43,893 --> 01:22:47,213
Speaker 2: And this was in the early nineteen eighties. They both

1602
01:22:47,293 --> 01:22:51,973
Speaker 2: bought bought Macpack canvas packs, and so my dad when

1603
01:22:51,973 --> 01:22:53,853
Speaker 2: he goes into the bush now and he said, a

1604
01:22:53,933 --> 01:22:55,533
Speaker 2: few ups and downs on the bush over the years,

1605
01:22:55,653 --> 01:22:59,013
Speaker 2: but he still has the same pack, a nineteen eighty

1606
01:22:59,133 --> 01:23:02,773
Speaker 2: one canvas macpack, and a keyword, it's like it's actually

1607
01:23:02,853 --> 01:23:05,573
Speaker 2: just it's like a thing of beauty to see the

1608
01:23:05,613 --> 01:23:08,453
Speaker 2: brush canvas for all this time. Yeah, I mean it's yeah,

1609
01:23:08,493 --> 01:23:09,973
Speaker 2: there's got a few holes and but some pieces, but

1610
01:23:10,053 --> 01:23:10,733
Speaker 2: you can appear it.

1611
01:23:10,893 --> 01:23:12,213
Speaker 21: That's the key exactly.

1612
01:23:12,453 --> 01:23:12,653
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1613
01:23:13,093 --> 01:23:16,773
Speaker 21: No, I think some of the best outdoor yet again

1614
01:23:16,893 --> 01:23:19,493
Speaker 21: now is from that kind of era because they just

1615
01:23:19,533 --> 01:23:22,293
Speaker 21: made them differently about then. Isn't that classic cliche saying

1616
01:23:22,613 --> 01:23:23,093
Speaker 21: I don't.

1617
01:23:22,933 --> 01:23:25,013
Speaker 7: Make them like they used to exactly?

1618
01:23:25,093 --> 01:23:27,093
Speaker 2: But there's a reason it's a cliche a good reason.

1619
01:23:27,213 --> 01:23:27,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about it?

1620
01:23:28,093 --> 01:23:30,453
Speaker 2: What about food if you're on the track, Yeah, so.

1621
01:23:30,973 --> 01:23:34,493
Speaker 21: Pet food and reasonable containers or even you know, reuse

1622
01:23:34,573 --> 01:23:37,933
Speaker 21: your ziplock bag. So these vax rats are really good

1623
01:23:37,973 --> 01:23:41,053
Speaker 21: one because they're quite a lightweight option. That's what I

1624
01:23:41,173 --> 01:23:43,853
Speaker 21: do in like when I've done some hikes then and

1625
01:23:43,933 --> 01:23:47,013
Speaker 21: I are trying to walk the talladeer trail top to

1626
01:23:47,053 --> 01:23:50,373
Speaker 21: one of New Zealand. But in sections, oh yeah, we'll

1627
01:23:50,413 --> 01:23:54,373
Speaker 21: often try to like dehydrator dehydrate some meals and then

1628
01:23:54,693 --> 01:23:59,533
Speaker 21: pop them into a yeah, resealable, reasonable little bag. Things

1629
01:23:59,573 --> 01:24:01,973
Speaker 21: like that is yeah, really helpful. Obviously if you do

1630
01:24:02,093 --> 01:24:05,413
Speaker 21: have any rubbish, not leaving that anywhere on the track,

1631
01:24:07,533 --> 01:24:11,173
Speaker 21: everything everything back with you. Just avoiding that singles oft

1632
01:24:11,573 --> 01:24:14,653
Speaker 21: snack packaging where possible also means that you don't have

1633
01:24:14,773 --> 01:24:18,013
Speaker 21: to worry about, you know, accidentally dropping your rubbish here

1634
01:24:18,093 --> 01:24:20,293
Speaker 21: and there and carrying it all home.

1635
01:24:20,693 --> 01:24:22,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean,

1636
01:24:22,573 --> 01:24:24,613
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the salami option.

1637
01:24:25,293 --> 01:24:25,493
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1638
01:24:25,573 --> 01:24:27,493
Speaker 2: Now, I just feel like salami does everything when you

1639
01:24:27,613 --> 01:24:29,453
Speaker 2: when you're tramping, and like you get a good stick

1640
01:24:29,493 --> 01:24:31,333
Speaker 2: of salami and you know it doesn't even need to

1641
01:24:31,333 --> 01:24:32,893
Speaker 2: be in plastic or anything, but you can just you

1642
01:24:32,973 --> 01:24:34,773
Speaker 2: can take that and that'll get you through every meal

1643
01:24:34,853 --> 01:24:35,893
Speaker 2: over over a few days.

1644
01:24:36,253 --> 01:24:40,933
Speaker 21: Yeah, and some good scrugina go to a bolting store

1645
01:24:41,053 --> 01:24:44,533
Speaker 21: and pick all the little parts that you want to. Yeah,

1646
01:24:44,613 --> 01:24:45,453
Speaker 21: how you want to make it up?

1647
01:24:45,613 --> 01:24:45,813
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1648
01:24:45,973 --> 01:24:46,173
Speaker 7: Nice.

1649
01:24:46,253 --> 01:24:49,333
Speaker 2: Obviously you should be taking your rubbish home, including food scraps,

1650
01:24:49,333 --> 01:24:52,853
Speaker 2: because otherwise that gives the rats and the ferrets and

1651
01:24:53,253 --> 01:24:55,733
Speaker 2: the stoats and everything that gives them food as well.

1652
01:24:56,453 --> 01:24:58,733
Speaker 2: And you should be sticking to the tracks as best

1653
01:24:58,733 --> 01:25:01,133
Speaker 2: as possible so that you kind of protect the ecosystems.

1654
01:25:01,173 --> 01:25:03,453
Speaker 2: But what about cleaning yourself when you're on the way.

1655
01:25:04,013 --> 01:25:07,013
Speaker 21: Yeah, So using a biodegradable soap, one that you know

1656
01:25:07,253 --> 01:25:10,373
Speaker 21: is often when they say that they're gray water or

1657
01:25:10,413 --> 01:25:13,613
Speaker 21: sip dictanks safe, or they may even say that they're

1658
01:25:13,653 --> 01:25:17,493
Speaker 21: safe for the outdoors is really important. And making sure

1659
01:25:18,693 --> 01:25:21,133
Speaker 21: that you're not you're kind of using that away from

1660
01:25:21,453 --> 01:25:24,493
Speaker 21: main waterways and just I think it's about trying to

1661
01:25:24,973 --> 01:25:28,653
Speaker 21: impact the environment as little as possible. Even if you're

1662
01:25:28,733 --> 01:25:34,013
Speaker 21: using things that you know aren't toxic, it's still an impact. Yeah,

1663
01:25:34,173 --> 01:25:36,613
Speaker 21: So just being cautious about that. I mean when I

1664
01:25:36,693 --> 01:25:43,093
Speaker 21: go hiking for three days, I don't need a shower. Yeah,

1665
01:25:43,253 --> 01:25:45,933
Speaker 21: but when you're washing dishes and things like that. Yeah,

1666
01:25:46,053 --> 01:25:47,893
Speaker 21: just making sure that the products you have and the

1667
01:25:47,973 --> 01:25:50,933
Speaker 21: spaces you're using it just I guess using your common

1668
01:25:50,973 --> 01:25:51,853
Speaker 21: sense is a big one.

1669
01:25:51,973 --> 01:25:54,693
Speaker 2: And Marino Marino Marino is a great option for cly Tame.

1670
01:25:55,133 --> 01:25:57,533
Speaker 21: Oh my gosh, So I actually did a test once.

1671
01:25:57,613 --> 01:26:01,493
Speaker 21: I wore a Marino top for I think it was

1672
01:26:01,853 --> 01:26:06,293
Speaker 21: forty five wears. Yeah, and I actually like I test,

1673
01:26:06,453 --> 01:26:09,853
Speaker 21: did I ask people like it didn't smell like when

1674
01:26:09,893 --> 01:26:12,293
Speaker 21: it started to smell a little bit, kind of must

1675
01:26:12,613 --> 01:26:13,253
Speaker 21: not terrible?

1676
01:26:13,853 --> 01:26:19,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is an amazing fabreak. Yeah, yeah, incredible. Hey,

1677
01:26:19,773 --> 01:26:21,533
Speaker 2: thank you so much. We will make sure all of

1678
01:26:21,573 --> 01:26:25,013
Speaker 2: those tips are up on newstalksb dot co dot nz

1679
01:26:25,253 --> 01:26:28,053
Speaker 2: and we will catch again very soon. K You can

1680
01:26:28,133 --> 01:26:31,013
Speaker 2: find Kate on social media as well. She's ethically Kate

1681
01:26:31,213 --> 01:26:34,213
Speaker 2: on the main platforms. Our Travel Coross is in in

1682
01:26:34,333 --> 01:26:37,133
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes quarter past eleven on news Talk ZEDB.

1683
01:26:37,933 --> 01:26:41,813
Speaker 3: Travel with Windy Woo Tours Where the World Is Yours book.

1684
01:26:41,653 --> 01:26:44,413
Speaker 2: Now Mike Yardley's Our Travel Coross one. He's with us

1685
01:26:44,453 --> 01:26:44,853
Speaker 2: this morning.

1686
01:26:44,893 --> 01:26:48,413
Speaker 4: Good morning, good morning, Jack. I just said to Libya,

1687
01:26:48,413 --> 01:26:50,533
Speaker 4: I went to bed last night to the soundtrack of

1688
01:26:50,693 --> 01:26:55,213
Speaker 4: Supergroup and Split Ends wafting beautifully and acoustically across the city.

1689
01:26:55,453 --> 01:26:57,653
Speaker 2: Amazing. So came all the way to your paper.

1690
01:26:57,773 --> 01:26:59,933
Speaker 4: Was so good. Yeah, yeah, So I think it would

1691
01:26:59,933 --> 01:27:02,453
Speaker 4: be about probably six seven k from my place to

1692
01:27:03,213 --> 01:27:05,973
Speaker 4: Hegley Park, but yeah, just the wind just carried the

1693
01:27:06,013 --> 01:27:08,373
Speaker 4: avoid this is across to me. It was so good.

1694
01:27:08,573 --> 01:27:08,813
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1695
01:27:10,053 --> 01:27:11,693
Speaker 4: Required So i looked at the.

1696
01:27:11,653 --> 01:27:13,413
Speaker 2: Close tow Eden Park and I'm not one of these

1697
01:27:13,413 --> 01:27:15,573
Speaker 2: people who knowns about the noise. I'm like, you know,

1698
01:27:15,653 --> 01:27:18,973
Speaker 2: you choose to live there, And honestly, I like the

1699
01:27:19,173 --> 01:27:22,413
Speaker 2: sound of I like knowing that there's kind of activity

1700
01:27:22,453 --> 01:27:24,613
Speaker 2: and there's life, and there are events and things. I really,

1701
01:27:24,733 --> 01:27:27,213
Speaker 2: I really enjoy it. And even if I'm not there,

1702
01:27:28,133 --> 01:27:29,733
Speaker 2: I think, oh, well, you know, it's great that this

1703
01:27:29,893 --> 01:27:31,693
Speaker 2: is on. You know, sometimes even I know this.

1704
01:27:32,053 --> 01:27:34,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just going to say, I know this

1705
01:27:34,813 --> 01:27:36,733
Speaker 4: is going to show my age check. But I was

1706
01:27:36,813 --> 01:27:40,333
Speaker 4: a bit taken aback around christ Church yesterday the number

1707
01:27:40,373 --> 01:27:43,453
Speaker 4: of electro Gaeve goers who seem to be dressed in

1708
01:27:43,533 --> 01:27:46,413
Speaker 4: no less than just kind of like a super yette.

1709
01:27:50,093 --> 01:27:51,613
Speaker 2: Yep, you're right, you're showing your age.

1710
01:27:54,853 --> 01:27:55,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what you mean.

1711
01:27:55,893 --> 01:27:58,373
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, we can yeah, I mean

1712
01:27:58,453 --> 01:28:01,013
Speaker 2: some people go some people go all out, and some

1713
01:28:01,133 --> 01:28:03,093
Speaker 2: people kind of go the other direction, don't they. You know,

1714
01:28:04,293 --> 01:28:07,053
Speaker 2: you can be very extravagant out and there can be

1715
01:28:07,173 --> 01:28:13,493
Speaker 2: some less than expec Anyway, this morning you are road

1716
01:28:13,573 --> 01:28:16,453
Speaker 2: tripping through wy Cuttle town and country. So beyond the

1717
01:28:16,533 --> 01:28:20,693
Speaker 2: bright lights of Hamilton, why Cuttle offers so much variety

1718
01:28:20,733 --> 01:28:21,413
Speaker 2: across the region?

1719
01:28:21,493 --> 01:28:24,893
Speaker 4: A It sure does, and of course it's all an

1720
01:28:24,933 --> 01:28:28,773
Speaker 4: easy reach for Aucklanders, but for South Islanders it's never

1721
01:28:28,893 --> 01:28:31,893
Speaker 4: been easier or cheaper to get to the Wyketto because

1722
01:28:32,253 --> 01:28:35,053
Speaker 4: both in New Zealand and Jetstar you may know this sect,

1723
01:28:35,093 --> 01:28:38,213
Speaker 4: they've been going head to head with a three twenties

1724
01:28:38,333 --> 01:28:40,933
Speaker 4: on the Hamilton christ Jutu route. So the firs are

1725
01:28:41,013 --> 01:28:42,813
Speaker 4: so cheap and of course you get there so fast.

1726
01:28:43,653 --> 01:28:47,533
Speaker 4: And what I love is beyond the tron Yeah, mighty Wyketto.

1727
01:28:47,733 --> 01:28:53,133
Speaker 4: The spoil of towns and sites just project so much

1728
01:28:53,693 --> 01:28:56,853
Speaker 4: distinctive character and personality. You know, you think of Raglan

1729
01:28:56,973 --> 01:29:00,693
Speaker 4: or Tito or Orto, ahunger Matamata, They've all got their

1730
01:29:00,853 --> 01:29:05,333
Speaker 4: own sort of sense of who we are. And I

1731
01:29:05,493 --> 01:29:08,973
Speaker 4: think Kido, perhaps more so than any other province in

1732
01:29:09,053 --> 01:29:13,213
Speaker 4: New Zealand, just has so many drive two towns as

1733
01:29:13,253 --> 01:29:15,773
Speaker 4: opposed to drive through towns, if you know what I mean.

1734
01:29:15,933 --> 01:29:19,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, So if we're talking drive two towns, Cambridge would

1735
01:29:19,333 --> 01:29:20,053
Speaker 2: be a still right.

1736
01:29:21,173 --> 01:29:24,053
Speaker 4: Oh Man, it is no wonder Cambridge is undergoing such

1737
01:29:24,093 --> 01:29:27,253
Speaker 4: a population boom. The lifestyle there is second to none,

1738
01:29:27,413 --> 01:29:29,413
Speaker 4: and it's such a good base for a town and

1739
01:29:29,533 --> 01:29:32,813
Speaker 4: country TICKI tour. It is, of course the town of champions,

1740
01:29:32,853 --> 01:29:37,493
Speaker 4: and they flaunted that sporting heritage with that fantastic Walk

1741
01:29:37,533 --> 01:29:40,613
Speaker 4: of Fame all through town, all of their sporting heroes,

1742
01:29:40,693 --> 01:29:44,013
Speaker 4: the local Olympians, over a dozen Melbourne Cup champions, you

1743
01:29:44,173 --> 01:29:46,573
Speaker 4: name it. And I have to say, if you can

1744
01:29:46,653 --> 01:29:51,573
Speaker 4: to yourself away from Cambridge's really good retail and hospital offerings,

1745
01:29:52,573 --> 01:29:55,733
Speaker 4: go to that world class of allodromans, spend some track

1746
01:29:55,853 --> 01:29:58,013
Speaker 4: time there. I was there a fortnight ago the ocean

1747
01:29:58,133 --> 01:30:02,133
Speaker 4: your champs were on, which was very lucky for me. Man,

1748
01:30:02,453 --> 01:30:05,773
Speaker 4: I was transfixed. The speed of those track races, Jack.

1749
01:30:05,853 --> 01:30:09,413
Speaker 4: To see it in the flesh is absolutely staggering.

1750
01:30:09,453 --> 01:30:11,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, you realize, like hat gutsy it

1751
01:30:12,053 --> 01:30:15,613
Speaker 2: is you really can't give a full perspective a and

1752
01:30:15,773 --> 01:30:18,853
Speaker 2: like one little goes wrong and you've got a long

1753
01:30:18,933 --> 01:30:20,533
Speaker 2: way to slide around.

1754
01:30:21,493 --> 01:30:24,413
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of timber to slide on. Yeah.

1755
01:30:24,973 --> 01:30:28,493
Speaker 2: So what's the latest hospitality hero in Cambridge?

1756
01:30:29,733 --> 01:30:31,733
Speaker 4: Yes, well it's the sort of town that doesn't rest

1757
01:30:31,813 --> 01:30:36,013
Speaker 4: on its laurels. And you may recall on Juke Street

1758
01:30:36,173 --> 01:30:39,733
Speaker 4: there used to be this really scruffy down at Hill Pub,

1759
01:30:39,973 --> 01:30:43,293
Speaker 4: the Massona Hotel. I was actually there. It's sort of

1760
01:30:43,573 --> 01:30:46,333
Speaker 4: I've got trauma over the Massonic Hotel, Jack because when

1761
01:30:46,453 --> 01:30:50,373
Speaker 4: Jasindo a Durn declared the Delta lockdown, I happened to

1762
01:30:50,453 --> 01:30:54,093
Speaker 4: be having a beer in the bar at the Massonic Cotel,

1763
01:30:54,573 --> 01:30:55,653
Speaker 4: many miles from a home.

1764
01:30:55,853 --> 01:30:56,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.

1765
01:30:56,933 --> 01:30:59,453
Speaker 4: Anyway, there was a few years ago in our in

1766
01:30:59,533 --> 01:31:03,573
Speaker 4: our dark history. The hotel has been there since eighteen

1767
01:31:03,653 --> 01:31:08,173
Speaker 4: sixty six, and a few months ago it reopened reborn

1768
01:31:08,493 --> 01:31:12,373
Speaker 4: as the Clements Hotel after the most meticulous tip to

1769
01:31:12,453 --> 01:31:17,413
Speaker 4: toe restoration. It's been just transformed into a boutique affordable

1770
01:31:17,533 --> 01:31:22,453
Speaker 4: luxury hotel. The lovely local owners they've spent millions hushing

1771
01:31:22,573 --> 01:31:25,733
Speaker 4: up this old girl. So it's now just got this

1772
01:31:26,133 --> 01:31:30,293
Speaker 4: red hot following as the trendy gathering space indoors and

1773
01:31:30,493 --> 01:31:34,133
Speaker 4: out in Cambridge. Super impressive. Whether you're staying in the

1774
01:31:34,133 --> 01:31:35,453
Speaker 4: house or not, you've got to go there.

1775
01:31:35,653 --> 01:31:39,013
Speaker 2: Nice. They've got a speakeasy bar, right, Yes.

1776
01:31:38,973 --> 01:31:41,133
Speaker 4: This is what the locals love and it's something you've

1777
01:31:41,173 --> 01:31:43,133
Speaker 4: definitely got to check out. Down in the basement, this

1778
01:31:43,453 --> 01:31:48,093
Speaker 4: very intimate, evocative, underground speakeasy. It's named eighteen sixty six,

1779
01:31:48,813 --> 01:31:52,453
Speaker 4: but it's such a great little spot for cozy libations

1780
01:31:52,533 --> 01:31:55,893
Speaker 4: after dark. Really good bar tracks. Man, those bartenders they've

1781
01:31:55,933 --> 01:31:58,653
Speaker 4: been watching that cocktail movie Farm and Party many times.

1782
01:31:59,013 --> 01:32:01,373
Speaker 4: And the live music there super cool. By the way.

1783
01:32:01,453 --> 01:32:04,373
Speaker 4: The Gallery restaurant in the hotel, that's also attracting a

1784
01:32:04,413 --> 01:32:06,253
Speaker 4: lot of buzz and I thought it, you, Jack, when

1785
01:32:06,253 --> 01:32:10,533
Speaker 4: I considered the dessert menu. You've got to try their

1786
01:32:10,653 --> 01:32:16,813
Speaker 4: black forest chocolate bruleat with poached cherries. It's as uncxious

1787
01:32:17,013 --> 01:32:17,813
Speaker 4: as it sounds.

1788
01:32:17,933 --> 01:32:20,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that sounds good. I feel like I

1789
01:32:20,573 --> 01:32:25,173
Speaker 2: feel like the poach, cherry and chocolate combination is an

1790
01:32:25,173 --> 01:32:27,613
Speaker 2: absolute winner. Did you got to hobitin?

1791
01:32:29,213 --> 01:32:32,293
Speaker 4: Well, I'm a sucker for a really good tourist trap

1792
01:32:33,453 --> 01:32:36,373
Speaker 4: and those whip smart guided movie set tours on the

1793
01:32:36,453 --> 01:32:40,093
Speaker 4: Alexander family farm. They just keep on keeping on selling

1794
01:32:40,173 --> 01:32:43,333
Speaker 4: out virtually every day. It's like the world is that

1795
01:32:43,493 --> 01:32:46,413
Speaker 4: Hobbit and it's just incredible. But if you haven't been

1796
01:32:46,453 --> 01:32:49,613
Speaker 4: in a couple of years. The added feature now is

1797
01:32:49,693 --> 01:32:52,893
Speaker 4: bagshot rows Hobbit holes, which now include two walk in

1798
01:32:52,933 --> 01:32:58,933
Speaker 4: the Hobbit houses, so everything is purposized and crafted for Hobbits,

1799
01:32:59,333 --> 01:33:03,173
Speaker 4: from the beds and the well stopped pantrees, all of

1800
01:33:03,213 --> 01:33:07,773
Speaker 4: the family heirlooms passed down from generations of Hobbits. It's

1801
01:33:07,973 --> 01:33:13,573
Speaker 4: also magnificent, magnificently executed, and it just reaffirmed to me

1802
01:33:13,653 --> 01:33:18,853
Speaker 4: how hobbiton has nailed that task of blurring the lines

1803
01:33:19,053 --> 01:33:21,733
Speaker 4: between reality and fantasy. It's like you've gone into a

1804
01:33:21,813 --> 01:33:23,773
Speaker 4: third realm. It really is so special.

1805
01:33:24,173 --> 01:33:29,573
Speaker 2: Further south, how good is Sanctuary Mountain among the totdih.

1806
01:33:30,613 --> 01:33:32,453
Speaker 4: I went there for the first time two weeks ago.

1807
01:33:32,893 --> 01:33:36,173
Speaker 4: What a sanctuary and it's got one of the world's

1808
01:33:36,213 --> 01:33:42,933
Speaker 4: biggest predator proofenses, forty seven kilometers of fence. Unbelievable. So

1809
01:33:43,173 --> 01:33:47,133
Speaker 4: the forest in the wetland, it is so beautiful, but

1810
01:33:47,293 --> 01:33:50,013
Speaker 4: as you sort of wander around, and they've got over

1811
01:33:50,133 --> 01:33:55,133
Speaker 4: seven hundred native species at the centuary. It really is

1812
01:33:55,413 --> 01:34:00,213
Speaker 4: a national arc. I found myself eyeballing to Atara while

1813
01:34:00,453 --> 01:34:05,133
Speaker 4: squawky saddlebacks and kaka and bury binging kennedoo flu all

1814
01:34:05,213 --> 01:34:07,533
Speaker 4: around me. The place is a revelation.

1815
01:34:08,573 --> 01:34:10,453
Speaker 2: That's so good. Do you know I've never been there.

1816
01:34:10,533 --> 01:34:12,373
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to. I've got like a little list.

1817
01:34:12,413 --> 01:34:14,453
Speaker 2: I keep it a list on my phone of activities

1818
01:34:14,493 --> 01:34:16,413
Speaker 2: to do with the family from time to time, and

1819
01:34:16,613 --> 01:34:18,373
Speaker 2: that's always been there. I always thot it'd be an

1820
01:34:18,373 --> 01:34:20,453
Speaker 2: amazing thing to do because they've got kiwi right.

1821
01:34:20,493 --> 01:34:25,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do, and it's fascinating there. Story of success

1822
01:34:25,933 --> 01:34:29,453
Speaker 4: go back twenty years ago. That's when they translocated the

1823
01:34:29,533 --> 01:34:34,933
Speaker 4: first kiwi to Monga Totade. A century had passed since

1824
01:34:34,973 --> 01:34:38,333
Speaker 4: the Kiwi call had been heard there before they took

1825
01:34:38,373 --> 01:34:43,133
Speaker 4: that first kiwi there. Today, this gorgeous old growth forest

1826
01:34:43,813 --> 01:34:47,013
Speaker 4: has a Swiss cheese lock to it, Jack, because the

1827
01:34:47,173 --> 01:34:50,933
Speaker 4: forest floor is pop marked with so many Kiwi boroughs.

1828
01:34:50,973 --> 01:34:53,813
Speaker 4: Wherever you lock, there's all these holes. There are now

1829
01:34:54,013 --> 01:34:56,653
Speaker 4: three thousand Kiwi in this forest.

1830
01:34:56,733 --> 01:35:01,693
Speaker 2: Wheesh, three thousand. That's remarkable. What an incredible success story.

1831
01:35:02,813 --> 01:35:03,893
Speaker 4: That's a lot of breeding.

1832
01:35:04,333 --> 01:35:09,053
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean that is that is something,

1833
01:35:09,133 --> 01:35:11,733
Speaker 2: isn't it? Okay, Oh, that's definitely going to be bumped

1834
01:35:11,933 --> 01:35:14,813
Speaker 2: further high up the list. I reckon. Okay, cool, that

1835
01:35:14,893 --> 01:35:18,813
Speaker 2: sounds amazing. Thank you so much, Mike, Thanks Jack, very good.

1836
01:35:19,333 --> 01:35:22,693
Speaker 2: Enjoy the rest of your weekend, and enjoy the sounds

1837
01:35:22,733 --> 01:35:25,733
Speaker 2: of Electric A Day two wafting across the city Today.

1838
01:35:25,773 --> 01:35:27,853
Speaker 2: Before midday, we are going to take you to our

1839
01:35:28,133 --> 01:35:31,253
Speaker 2: music reviewer who was there to see Split Ends perform

1840
01:35:31,533 --> 01:35:34,533
Speaker 2: last night, and he'll be there again today alongside seventy

1841
01:35:34,653 --> 01:35:39,133
Speaker 2: nine ninety nine others who'll be no doubt enjoying Electric

1842
01:35:39,213 --> 01:35:41,533
Speaker 2: av twenty seven past eleven, Here with Jack Tame on

1843
01:35:41,613 --> 01:35:42,293
Speaker 2: News Talks EDB.

1844
01:35:46,053 --> 01:35:49,933
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team

1845
01:35:50,413 --> 01:35:51,453
Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB.

1846
01:35:53,133 --> 01:35:54,133
Speaker 2: You gotta get down.

1847
01:35:54,453 --> 01:35:55,453
Speaker 10: You're not like to do.

1848
01:36:05,173 --> 01:36:08,453
Speaker 2: Eleven news talks. It'd be after midday today. Jason Pine

1849
01:36:08,693 --> 01:36:11,653
Speaker 2: is in for weekends. Spoken wanting Sir color Jack Andrew

1850
01:36:11,693 --> 01:36:12,493
Speaker 2: Whips on the show.

1851
01:36:12,613 --> 01:36:12,773
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1852
01:36:12,853 --> 01:36:14,613
Speaker 22: Looking forward to chatting to the Warrior's head coach for

1853
01:36:14,653 --> 01:36:17,813
Speaker 22: the first time in twenty twenty six. This first game Friday,

1854
01:36:17,893 --> 01:36:20,093
Speaker 22: next Friday. Yeah, so this time next week when we're chatting, well,

1855
01:36:20,573 --> 01:36:23,053
Speaker 22: we'll be able to talk about the first game Vegas.

1856
01:36:23,133 --> 01:36:25,413
Speaker 22: Of course, couple of games tomorrow. The Warriors were there

1857
01:36:25,493 --> 01:36:27,533
Speaker 22: last year, not there this year. I think they'll be

1858
01:36:27,573 --> 01:36:28,293
Speaker 22: quite happy about that.

1859
01:36:28,333 --> 01:36:28,853
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that.

1860
01:36:28,973 --> 01:36:31,093
Speaker 22: I mean, obviously, they lost the game to the Raiders

1861
01:36:31,133 --> 01:36:34,333
Speaker 22: fairly comprehensively their last year, and I remember Andrew Whipster

1862
01:36:34,373 --> 01:36:37,333
Speaker 22: saying there was a few too many distractions, which I think, yeah,

1863
01:36:37,373 --> 01:36:39,813
Speaker 22: you know, in Vegas is probably fair enough. But yeah,

1864
01:36:39,813 --> 01:36:42,173
Speaker 22: the Roosters at home and then the Raiders at home

1865
01:36:42,253 --> 01:36:45,333
Speaker 22: in their first two games, so two good sides, but

1866
01:36:45,533 --> 01:36:47,333
Speaker 22: both at home. So we should get a fairly good

1867
01:36:47,373 --> 01:36:49,573
Speaker 22: gauge I think in the first couple of weeks about

1868
01:36:49,613 --> 01:36:50,493
Speaker 22: where the Warriors are at.

1869
01:36:50,853 --> 01:36:52,813
Speaker 2: What do you make of that black Cap performance last night?

1870
01:36:52,973 --> 01:36:54,933
Speaker 22: I think one that got away. You know, you look

1871
01:36:54,973 --> 01:36:57,293
Speaker 22: at the way they batted and a couple of in

1872
01:36:57,333 --> 01:36:58,893
Speaker 22: a couple of ways. The power play was very good

1873
01:36:58,933 --> 01:37:00,813
Speaker 22: for Allen and Tim Seifert. You know, they put on

1874
01:37:00,933 --> 01:37:03,013
Speaker 22: fifty odd sixty in the first six overs but only

1875
01:37:03,053 --> 01:37:05,693
Speaker 22: got us New Zealand. They got through to one sixty

1876
01:37:05,773 --> 01:37:09,413
Speaker 22: or one fifteen nine, and then with England on the ropes,

1877
01:37:09,493 --> 01:37:11,413
Speaker 22: really Jack, you know, I think they had one of

1878
01:37:11,453 --> 01:37:14,293
Speaker 22: those win predictors which had at one stage England just

1879
01:37:14,333 --> 01:37:17,293
Speaker 22: a thirteen percent chance of winning year and they got

1880
01:37:17,333 --> 01:37:19,173
Speaker 22: there with forty odd fifty odd in the last three

1881
01:37:19,253 --> 01:37:22,413
Speaker 22: or four overs, so one that got away, thankfully not terminal.

1882
01:37:22,813 --> 01:37:26,253
Speaker 22: We do need Sri Lanka to see yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1883
01:37:26,293 --> 01:37:29,373
Speaker 22: Well we need Srilanka to be Pakistan or Pakistan to win,

1884
01:37:29,453 --> 01:37:32,933
Speaker 22: but not win by heaps. I think the equation is

1885
01:37:33,253 --> 01:37:37,253
Speaker 22: if Pakistan win by sixty five runs or inside thirteen overs,

1886
01:37:37,413 --> 01:37:39,693
Speaker 22: if they're chasing, then they'll go past us on net

1887
01:37:39,773 --> 01:37:42,333
Speaker 22: run rate. So you'd hope that Ri Lanka on home soil,

1888
01:37:42,373 --> 01:37:44,733
Speaker 22: even though they're out of their tournament, regardless of the result,

1889
01:37:45,013 --> 01:37:46,493
Speaker 22: will at least want to finish with a flourish So

1890
01:37:46,613 --> 01:37:48,533
Speaker 22: let's hope that happens, and then the black Cats will

1891
01:37:48,533 --> 01:37:49,573
Speaker 22: be into the Semis.

1892
01:37:49,293 --> 01:37:53,973
Speaker 2: So AFC home this afternoon, the Phoenix tomorrow. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1893
01:37:54,373 --> 01:37:57,253
Speaker 22: I'm really curious to see the bounce back from Wellington

1894
01:37:57,293 --> 01:37:59,413
Speaker 22: after last weekend. You and I have spoken about the derby.

1895
01:37:59,453 --> 01:38:01,613
Speaker 22: Everybody seems to have spoken about the derby. I mean,

1896
01:38:01,653 --> 01:38:03,813
Speaker 22: awklead fcal going to their game against Melbourne City this

1897
01:38:03,893 --> 01:38:07,413
Speaker 22: afternoon full of confidence. Phoenix changes of head coach Chris

1898
01:38:07,493 --> 01:38:11,013
Speaker 22: Greenacre back into the breach for a fourth time as

1899
01:38:11,093 --> 01:38:13,013
Speaker 22: interim coach. I really hope they give them the job

1900
01:38:13,053 --> 01:38:15,093
Speaker 22: full time. That, of course remains to be seen, but

1901
01:38:15,133 --> 01:38:17,373
Speaker 22: you often get a bounce back after a new coach

1902
01:38:17,453 --> 01:38:19,133
Speaker 22: comes in. Things are at a bit of an all

1903
01:38:19,253 --> 01:38:22,333
Speaker 22: time low. And they changed the coach, and players and

1904
01:38:22,653 --> 01:38:24,333
Speaker 22: coaching staff kind of galvanized.

1905
01:38:24,613 --> 01:38:26,613
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not beyond the rights. Possibly they wouldn't

1906
01:38:26,653 --> 01:38:29,653
Speaker 2: be really felt like it was a so last week.

1907
01:38:29,813 --> 01:38:31,453
Speaker 2: I mean they kind of I don't want to say

1908
01:38:31,493 --> 01:38:34,333
Speaker 2: they dominated the first twenty minutes, but they were certainly

1909
01:38:34,453 --> 01:38:36,973
Speaker 2: the ascendant team in that first twenty minutes of the derby,

1910
01:38:37,093 --> 01:38:40,053
Speaker 2: right and then after that that own goal, That own

1911
01:38:40,093 --> 01:38:42,653
Speaker 2: goal seene around the world, which was an absolute shocker, obviously,

1912
01:38:42,813 --> 01:38:45,253
Speaker 2: but it was as though they're just kind of mentally

1913
01:38:45,333 --> 01:38:50,093
Speaker 2: capitulated as much as anything. Yeah, they all had just thought, oh, well,

1914
01:38:50,213 --> 01:38:52,773
Speaker 2: actually the football and gods actually have something in for us,

1915
01:38:52,853 --> 01:38:54,973
Speaker 2: and so what can we do. See that's the thing.

1916
01:38:55,053 --> 01:38:57,173
Speaker 22: You're still only one Niel down, No I mean in

1917
01:38:57,253 --> 01:38:59,173
Speaker 22: the previous derby they were one nil down after twenty

1918
01:38:59,253 --> 01:38:59,773
Speaker 22: eight second.

1919
01:39:00,133 --> 01:39:00,933
Speaker 2: That's way worse.

1920
01:39:01,173 --> 01:39:04,213
Speaker 22: I know, the circumstances are like, as you say, football

1921
01:39:04,253 --> 01:39:06,653
Speaker 22: and gods are conspiring against us, but you're still only

1922
01:39:06,733 --> 01:39:09,053
Speaker 22: one kneel down. It was the reaction to that that

1923
01:39:09,133 --> 01:39:11,973
Speaker 22: I think was most disturbing, and probably you.

1924
01:39:12,013 --> 01:39:14,653
Speaker 2: Know, you can actually understand it, like from a rational perspective.

1925
01:39:14,693 --> 01:39:16,493
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the professional sports people they should be,

1926
01:39:16,613 --> 01:39:21,253
Speaker 2: but you can understand how just having been ascendant for

1927
01:39:21,333 --> 01:39:24,893
Speaker 2: twenty minutes and having seen Aorkland really struggle and then

1928
01:39:25,173 --> 01:39:27,813
Speaker 2: seeing that own goal, they just like somewhere in the

1929
01:39:27,853 --> 01:39:30,293
Speaker 2: back of your mind, as someone saying, so man, just

1930
01:39:30,693 --> 01:39:32,853
Speaker 2: for whatever it is, the football and gods have decided

1931
01:39:32,893 --> 01:39:34,053
Speaker 2: that this is in your game.

1932
01:39:34,173 --> 01:39:36,053
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think it's probably quite good for them. There's

1933
01:39:36,053 --> 01:39:37,773
Speaker 22: no more Darbies this season. You know, they can just

1934
01:39:37,853 --> 01:39:40,253
Speaker 22: concentrate these last eight games, pick up as many points

1935
01:39:40,293 --> 01:39:42,733
Speaker 22: as they can. You know, a lot of these guys

1936
01:39:42,773 --> 01:39:45,613
Speaker 22: are playing for contracts as well. Chris Greenack, as I say,

1937
01:39:45,733 --> 01:39:48,373
Speaker 22: is probably on. I don't think he's beyond in an

1938
01:39:48,413 --> 01:39:50,253
Speaker 22: audition of any sort. I think they'll give him the

1939
01:39:50,333 --> 01:39:52,773
Speaker 22: role they should. He deserves it, but he'll want to

1940
01:39:53,093 --> 01:39:55,933
Speaker 22: make a difference. So so yeah, Aukland FC this afternoon,

1941
01:39:55,933 --> 01:39:57,413
Speaker 22: that'll be a good game to Melbourne City of the

1942
01:39:57,453 --> 01:39:59,733
Speaker 22: reigning champions they won the Grand Final last year. The

1943
01:39:59,973 --> 01:40:01,973
Speaker 22: Aukland FC side, of course won the Premiers played, so

1944
01:40:02,293 --> 01:40:04,453
Speaker 22: reigning premiers against reigning championship be a good one.

1945
01:40:04,533 --> 01:40:07,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be very interesting. Super Rugg this evening as well.

1946
01:40:07,213 --> 01:40:09,733
Speaker 2: Of course you've got well the Canes at four o'clock,

1947
01:40:09,933 --> 01:40:12,893
Speaker 2: Crusaders Chiefs seven and then the Blues at nine thirty tonight.

1948
01:40:12,973 --> 01:40:15,773
Speaker 2: Crusaders could be going three. I know I was hoping

1949
01:40:15,813 --> 01:40:18,933
Speaker 2: you wouldn't say that, but let us not forget they are.

1950
01:40:19,733 --> 01:40:22,493
Speaker 2: If there is one thing that defines Crusaders seasons, it's

1951
01:40:22,493 --> 01:40:26,373
Speaker 2: a poor start. They are very often slow starters and

1952
01:40:26,453 --> 01:40:28,133
Speaker 2: then going to win the championship. So don't get two

1953
01:40:28,133 --> 01:40:32,733
Speaker 2: cocky just year Las tonight. You know, going into that game,

1954
01:40:32,853 --> 01:40:36,413
Speaker 2: I will will confess to feeling a little bit nervy.

1955
01:40:37,093 --> 01:40:39,493
Speaker 2: But they do start slow.

1956
01:40:39,693 --> 01:40:43,013
Speaker 22: Yeah, as long as from Crusaders fans point of view,

1957
01:40:43,053 --> 01:40:44,813
Speaker 22: they don't do what they did two years ago, yes,

1958
01:40:45,293 --> 01:40:47,613
Speaker 22: and then stay slow, stay slow, But that was that

1959
01:40:47,853 --> 01:40:50,333
Speaker 22: was an aberration that's an outline, so right, check. They

1960
01:40:50,373 --> 01:40:52,813
Speaker 22: always come home strong. We always expect them to be

1961
01:40:52,933 --> 01:40:55,493
Speaker 22: there or thereabouts. They normally win it, so you know. Yeah,

1962
01:40:55,733 --> 01:40:57,653
Speaker 22: but yeah, interesting to see what happens on Hamilton tonight.

1963
01:40:57,773 --> 01:41:00,413
Speaker 2: Good to hear from Andrew webs Of this afternoon as well. Yeah,

1964
01:41:00,453 --> 01:41:02,813
Speaker 2: it just maybe slightly less this is our season chat.

1965
01:41:04,133 --> 01:41:05,853
Speaker 22: Yeah, it won't take it won't take long though, probably

1966
01:41:05,853 --> 01:41:07,533
Speaker 22: won't be too good that I wouldn't imagine.

1967
01:41:07,573 --> 01:41:09,213
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll looking forward to it. Thank you, sir,

1968
01:41:09,333 --> 01:41:11,493
Speaker 2: They Shason Pine, we'll have all weekend sport. He's with

1969
01:41:11,653 --> 01:41:15,453
Speaker 2: us right after twelve o'clock on News Talks EDB. Before midday,

1970
01:41:15,613 --> 01:41:18,373
Speaker 2: we're going to take you to Electric Avenue and next

1971
01:41:18,493 --> 01:41:21,253
Speaker 2: up we've got your book picks for this weekend, including

1972
01:41:21,493 --> 01:41:24,453
Speaker 2: the latest from JP Poorlmardi. The Gambler is this new book,

1973
01:41:24,493 --> 01:41:26,733
Speaker 2: so we'll get our book viewers thoughts on that. Twenty

1974
01:41:26,773 --> 01:41:27,573
Speaker 2: five to twelve.

1975
01:41:28,293 --> 01:41:32,493
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1976
01:41:32,813 --> 01:41:34,093
Speaker 1: powered by News Talks EDB.

1977
01:41:34,893 --> 01:41:37,373
Speaker 2: Twenty two to twelve on News Talks EDB. Not only

1978
01:41:37,533 --> 01:41:39,813
Speaker 2: is our book reviewer Katherin Rain's a big fan of reading.

1979
01:41:39,853 --> 01:41:41,773
Speaker 2: She's a big fan of motorsports. So, Catherine and you'll

1980
01:41:41,813 --> 01:41:43,453
Speaker 2: be looking forward to that interview. The host cares with

1981
01:41:43,573 --> 01:41:44,773
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson this Tuesday.

1982
01:41:45,733 --> 01:41:48,613
Speaker 9: I certainly am, and my daughter and I are actually

1983
01:41:48,733 --> 01:41:50,453
Speaker 9: in Melbourne next weekend for the grass.

1984
01:41:53,013 --> 01:41:55,093
Speaker 2: I just love this. I just like you know, there

1985
01:41:55,133 --> 01:41:56,933
Speaker 2: will be people who've listened to you on Saturday mornings

1986
01:41:56,973 --> 01:42:00,533
Speaker 2: and said, oh, Catherine, you know she's obviously a prolific reader.

1987
01:42:00,933 --> 01:42:03,213
Speaker 2: There's no way on earth she'd have any interest in motorsport,

1988
01:42:03,253 --> 01:42:05,293
Speaker 2: but there you go. It's some Oh you can thank

1989
01:42:05,373 --> 01:42:08,093
Speaker 2: my dad for that. It's great on Melbourne will be incredible.

1990
01:42:08,133 --> 01:42:09,253
Speaker 2: Have you been to that Grand Prix before?

1991
01:42:09,973 --> 01:42:10,013
Speaker 4: No?

1992
01:42:10,133 --> 01:42:10,493
Speaker 10: I haven't.

1993
01:42:10,693 --> 01:42:13,573
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yeah, I'd love to go. It'll I

1994
01:42:13,613 --> 01:42:16,213
Speaker 2: mean the atmosphere in this he will be just unbelievable

1995
01:42:16,293 --> 01:42:19,693
Speaker 2: in't it. Yeah, and we'll get a good steer on

1996
01:42:19,773 --> 01:42:21,973
Speaker 2: where the where the Red Bull cars are actually in

1997
01:42:22,093 --> 01:42:24,013
Speaker 2: positioned this year or the Racing Bull cars are positioned

1998
01:42:24,053 --> 01:42:25,133
Speaker 2: this year, which is always nice.

1999
01:42:26,093 --> 01:42:28,373
Speaker 9: Yeah, well go Liam Lawson looking forward to seeing Yeah.

2000
01:42:28,693 --> 01:42:28,893
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2001
01:42:28,973 --> 01:42:31,133
Speaker 2: So Tuesday morning he's going to be speaking with Mike Costking,

2002
01:42:31,173 --> 01:42:34,253
Speaker 2: which would be superb. Now to this weekend's book picks.

2003
01:42:34,573 --> 01:42:37,253
Speaker 2: Let's start off with the last from JP Porlmarty tell

2004
01:42:37,333 --> 01:42:38,573
Speaker 2: us about the Gambler.

2005
01:42:39,653 --> 01:42:42,613
Speaker 9: So this features private investigator Vince Reid, and he's a

2006
01:42:42,653 --> 01:42:45,213
Speaker 9: PI for hire and he's kind of that classic detective.

2007
01:42:45,733 --> 01:42:48,693
Speaker 9: He's always after answers, even if he's sort of putting himself,

2008
01:42:48,773 --> 01:42:51,933
Speaker 9: and in the middle of what's going on, he questions everybody,

2009
01:42:52,013 --> 01:42:54,253
Speaker 9: and you know everything, even though you know, even when

2010
01:42:54,253 --> 01:42:56,813
Speaker 9: it's people he knows. And he's catching up with an

2011
01:42:56,813 --> 01:42:58,653
Speaker 9: old friend of hers, a guy called Nash, and Nash

2012
01:42:58,693 --> 01:43:01,813
Speaker 9: offers him a job after this young woman, a girl

2013
01:43:01,853 --> 01:43:04,213
Speaker 9: called Katie, has been shot dead at a political rally,

2014
01:43:04,653 --> 01:43:06,933
Speaker 9: and Jason, who was a friend of hers, shot the

2015
01:43:07,013 --> 01:43:10,293
Speaker 9: attacker who killed her in this heroic act, but then

2016
01:43:10,373 --> 01:43:14,173
Speaker 9: he disappears, and Kate's parents are really desperate to find

2017
01:43:14,213 --> 01:43:16,613
Speaker 9: out why their daughter was targeted or was it an accident?

2018
01:43:16,853 --> 01:43:18,693
Speaker 9: Was she just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

2019
01:43:19,333 --> 01:43:22,013
Speaker 9: But of course the only way that reader is going

2020
01:43:22,053 --> 01:43:24,453
Speaker 9: to get answers is if he tracks down Jason, who

2021
01:43:24,533 --> 01:43:27,293
Speaker 9: has disappeared. And the shoot is also kind of this

2022
01:43:27,453 --> 01:43:30,293
Speaker 9: really interesting woman, a woman called Barb, and she has

2023
01:43:30,373 --> 01:43:33,813
Speaker 9: no obvious connection to Katie, and she was very respected

2024
01:43:33,853 --> 01:43:36,333
Speaker 9: in the community, and so read of course realizes that

2025
01:43:36,493 --> 01:43:39,573
Speaker 9: he's stepping into something you know, much more dangerous than

2026
01:43:39,613 --> 01:43:42,253
Speaker 9: he thought it was. And he digs deeper, and there's

2027
01:43:42,293 --> 01:43:45,373
Speaker 9: all of these agendas and influences and kind of pushing

2028
01:43:45,413 --> 01:43:48,453
Speaker 9: shadow influences, pushing them in different directions, and you know

2029
01:43:48,533 --> 01:43:50,453
Speaker 9: there's a real personal cost to him as well.

2030
01:43:50,973 --> 01:43:52,053
Speaker 2: And a story.

2031
01:43:52,213 --> 01:43:54,533
Speaker 9: You hear it through several different points of view, which

2032
01:43:54,533 --> 01:43:56,653
Speaker 9: adds to that mystery and that air of it, and

2033
01:43:57,013 --> 01:44:00,053
Speaker 9: about Jason and Bub's widow and the Marshals who are

2034
01:44:00,093 --> 01:44:02,933
Speaker 9: Katie's parents just not sharing everything that they know. And

2035
01:44:03,013 --> 01:44:05,853
Speaker 9: so he gets really engrossing read with these storylines and

2036
01:44:05,853 --> 01:44:09,733
Speaker 9: point of view whose time jumps around in great characters

2037
01:44:09,813 --> 01:44:11,853
Speaker 9: and some good intrigue along the way.

2038
01:44:12,453 --> 01:44:15,573
Speaker 2: Very good. That sounds awesome. Okay, So that's by JP Paulmartia.

2039
01:44:15,653 --> 01:44:18,573
Speaker 2: The book is The Gambler that now you've also read

2040
01:44:18,693 --> 01:44:22,733
Speaker 2: Spies and Other Gods by John Wolfe, So this is a.

2041
01:44:22,853 --> 01:44:26,893
Speaker 9: Really good espionage story. It's Sir William Reynold. He's six

2042
01:44:27,013 --> 01:44:29,893
Speaker 9: months away from retirement, but he's making a lot of mistakes.

2043
01:44:30,013 --> 01:44:32,733
Speaker 9: His memories not quite what it was, and he doesn't

2044
01:44:32,813 --> 01:44:35,613
Speaker 9: really seem to be following the situations very well and

2045
01:44:36,173 --> 01:44:39,973
Speaker 9: potentially in the early stages of dementia. And the book

2046
01:44:40,093 --> 01:44:44,093
Speaker 9: opens with the British Parliament's Intelligent and Security Committee having

2047
01:44:44,133 --> 01:44:47,493
Speaker 9: received this complaint about a particular case that is run

2048
01:44:47,573 --> 01:44:50,893
Speaker 9: by Sir William's department. What happens to be six and

2049
01:44:50,973 --> 01:44:53,653
Speaker 9: it's highly classified and there's this hunt for an Iranian

2050
01:44:53,693 --> 01:44:58,333
Speaker 9: assassin who's been killing Iranian dissidents in Europe, and much

2051
01:44:58,453 --> 01:45:01,653
Speaker 9: to his annoyance, a parliamentary researcher has been sent in

2052
01:45:01,813 --> 01:45:06,013
Speaker 9: to review the file and Afromerqueen is that investigator, and

2053
01:45:06,133 --> 01:45:09,453
Speaker 9: she's smart, she doesn't back down, and when she's sent

2054
01:45:09,573 --> 01:45:12,493
Speaker 9: into review, she's on the lookout for any wrongdoing by

2055
01:45:12,533 --> 01:45:15,133
Speaker 9: the department as well in the sensitive case, and it's

2056
01:45:15,253 --> 01:45:18,853
Speaker 9: not concluded. And also as the story moves through, you

2057
01:45:18,933 --> 01:45:22,253
Speaker 9: get unforeseen things and the story turns in different directions

2058
01:45:22,333 --> 01:45:25,813
Speaker 9: and events move from London to Birmingham to Paris, and

2059
01:45:26,373 --> 01:45:28,253
Speaker 9: as Ephor and sa William end up in the same

2060
01:45:28,333 --> 01:45:30,453
Speaker 9: cities at the same time, and there's lots of chaos,

2061
01:45:30,533 --> 01:45:34,013
Speaker 9: and there's a serial killer, and you enter this world

2062
01:45:34,093 --> 01:45:37,453
Speaker 9: of spies and secrets and lies and undercover operations and

2063
01:45:37,573 --> 01:45:40,373
Speaker 9: it's really well done. It's written by a former spy,

2064
01:45:40,933 --> 01:45:42,693
Speaker 9: and it's got a really unique style to it.

2065
01:45:42,973 --> 01:45:45,733
Speaker 2: That is definitely definitely a bit of me. Thank you

2066
01:45:46,213 --> 01:45:50,573
Speaker 2: so that Spies and Other Gods by John Wolfe. Catherine's

2067
01:45:50,573 --> 01:45:53,373
Speaker 2: first book is The Gambler by JP Pormarty, and we'll

2068
01:45:53,373 --> 01:45:56,093
Speaker 2: make sure both of those books and details about them

2069
01:45:56,133 --> 01:45:58,413
Speaker 2: are up on the news Talks. He'd be website. Catherine

2070
01:45:58,413 --> 01:46:00,853
Speaker 2: will be speaking to you next weekend, but travel safely.

2071
01:46:00,933 --> 01:46:04,573
Speaker 2: Can't wait to hear about your if one experience.

2072
01:46:05,413 --> 01:46:09,413
Speaker 1: Inside scoop all you need to know Saturday morning with

2073
01:46:09,653 --> 01:46:11,133
Speaker 1: Jack Team News Talks.

2074
01:46:11,173 --> 01:46:11,413
Speaker 6: It be.

2075
01:46:16,853 --> 01:46:18,413
Speaker 16: Just like the world is our.

2076
01:46:20,733 --> 01:46:21,613
Speaker 21: We're teving in.

2077
01:46:24,773 --> 01:46:26,413
Speaker 2: You'll know we's here for stars.

2078
01:46:26,533 --> 01:46:29,253
Speaker 3: We are where it is.

2079
01:46:31,653 --> 01:46:34,453
Speaker 2: I'm not embarrassed to Simon to her love a little

2080
01:46:34,453 --> 01:46:38,053
Speaker 2: bit of Kisher, have a little bit of Kisha, especially

2081
01:46:38,093 --> 01:46:40,973
Speaker 2: on the weekends, dance away to that. That is we

2082
01:46:41,093 --> 01:46:44,373
Speaker 2: are who we are because one Christis may have of Keisha.

2083
01:46:44,413 --> 01:46:47,733
Speaker 2: It's how she how she titled some of her songs,

2084
01:46:47,773 --> 01:46:50,173
Speaker 2: So that's we are and instead of are, she's just

2085
01:46:50,253 --> 01:46:53,493
Speaker 2: got the letter we are who we are a little

2086
01:46:53,493 --> 01:46:57,973
Speaker 2: bit irritating anyway, The reason we're playing Kisher is of

2087
01:46:58,013 --> 01:47:00,413
Speaker 2: course that Keisha is playing christ Church today. She's playing

2088
01:47:00,453 --> 01:47:03,493
Speaker 2: Electric Gav one of the big names to come in

2089
01:47:03,693 --> 01:47:07,693
Speaker 2: for what is now an enormous for Chris Schultz, our

2090
01:47:07,813 --> 01:47:10,573
Speaker 2: music reviewer, is there in the O three lapping your

2091
01:47:10,733 --> 01:47:12,093
Speaker 2: lapenings with us now today.

2092
01:47:11,893 --> 01:47:15,613
Speaker 23: Chris got a Jack I am it's I don't know

2093
01:47:15,613 --> 01:47:17,213
Speaker 23: if you can hear the base in the background, this

2094
01:47:17,373 --> 01:47:19,573
Speaker 23: is christ Church when Electric Avenue is on.

2095
01:47:19,933 --> 01:47:24,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, could be Columbo Street, could be lower Columbo

2096
01:47:24,053 --> 01:47:26,373
Speaker 2: Street at sort of seven thirty on a Tuesday evening

2097
01:47:26,413 --> 01:47:29,253
Speaker 2: as well, couldn't it doing a couple of lumber runs.

2098
01:47:29,533 --> 01:47:32,493
Speaker 2: But yeah, things have already kicked off for the Saturday.

2099
01:47:34,013 --> 01:47:37,933
Speaker 23: Huge first Day Jack it was. Yeah, they're showing off

2100
01:47:37,973 --> 01:47:40,693
Speaker 23: a new festival layout. It's got a whole new, massive

2101
01:47:41,933 --> 01:47:44,773
Speaker 23: main stage. They've put in just another stage to accommodate

2102
01:47:44,893 --> 01:47:47,053
Speaker 23: all the people coming this year. It's up another seven

2103
01:47:47,133 --> 01:47:51,213
Speaker 23: thousand from last year's event. This thing just keeps getting

2104
01:47:51,853 --> 01:47:55,173
Speaker 23: bigger and bigger. It seems unstoppable. At this point they've

2105
01:47:55,213 --> 01:47:58,293
Speaker 23: taken over like most of North Hagley Park. Yeah, and

2106
01:47:59,053 --> 01:48:01,653
Speaker 23: you can just feel it there's it actually works really well.

2107
01:48:01,653 --> 01:48:04,813
Speaker 23: There's a lot more space. The main stage has an

2108
01:48:04,973 --> 01:48:08,413
Speaker 23: led backdrop on it that apparently is as big as

2109
01:48:08,453 --> 01:48:12,853
Speaker 23: anything at coach Schalla. Wow, it's become that kind of

2110
01:48:12,933 --> 01:48:16,813
Speaker 23: festival now where it's just a behemoth. It's hard to

2111
01:48:16,933 --> 01:48:20,253
Speaker 23: describe the scale of it because it would probably take

2112
01:48:20,293 --> 01:48:22,853
Speaker 23: you half an hour to walk across the site and

2113
01:48:23,133 --> 01:48:27,333
Speaker 23: just sort of take up the space and see what's

2114
01:48:27,373 --> 01:48:27,533
Speaker 23: in it.

2115
01:48:28,453 --> 01:48:29,093
Speaker 4: It's huge.

2116
01:48:29,453 --> 01:48:32,453
Speaker 23: It's just a huge festival. It's you ever had anything

2117
01:48:32,533 --> 01:48:32,693
Speaker 23: like it?

2118
01:48:32,893 --> 01:48:35,933
Speaker 2: No, I mean, it is fantastic to see so much

2119
01:48:35,973 --> 01:48:39,133
Speaker 2: success and you know it's kind of a tribute to

2120
01:48:39,733 --> 01:48:42,893
Speaker 2: the regeneration of christ Church I Reckon and the post

2121
01:48:42,973 --> 01:48:44,813
Speaker 2: quake Kears. You know, it's just going from strength to

2122
01:48:44,853 --> 01:48:46,773
Speaker 2: strength at the moment. So talk us through day one.

2123
01:48:46,893 --> 01:48:49,493
Speaker 2: Tell us about your day one. Electro gave twenty twenty

2124
01:48:49,533 --> 01:48:50,333
Speaker 2: six experience.

2125
01:48:51,093 --> 01:48:53,293
Speaker 4: So there was a real generation gap there.

2126
01:48:53,333 --> 01:48:55,093
Speaker 23: You could feel the kids who were there for the

2127
01:48:55,173 --> 01:48:58,253
Speaker 23: big name you know, doft Off, DJs, the Becky Hills,

2128
01:48:58,293 --> 01:49:00,933
Speaker 23: the Sammi Virgis that kind of stuff, and then there

2129
01:49:00,933 --> 01:49:03,893
Speaker 23: were people like me, an older generation there for the

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Speaker 23: nineties acts, so they had the streets. Mike Skinner's great

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Speaker 23: great laconic streets rap group from the UK. They had

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Speaker 23: Basement Jack's doing this kind of big circus themed show

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01:49:19,453 --> 01:49:22,413
Speaker 23: at the end of the night, and the hangar so

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Speaker 23: you could go and see all that have a great

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Speaker 23: time in reminisce. But then, you know, the main big

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Speaker 23: headline act for the day was Split Ends, this big reunion,

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Speaker 23: shock reunion that they pulled together. And you know, look,

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Speaker 23: I had questioned, Split Ends haven't played for fifteen years.

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Speaker 23: I hadn't been born when they reached their peak. You know,

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Speaker 23: it's so long ago that Split Ends were a thing.

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Speaker 23: I turned up at that main stage and there were

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Speaker 23: kids everywhere, and I just thought, how is this going

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Speaker 23: to connect with people like so far removed from this music?

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Speaker 23: And then they turned up on the main stage in

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Speaker 23: a sack. They shuffled out in an orange sack. They

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Speaker 23: whipped off the sack and they're all wearing those Do

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01:50:06,693 --> 01:50:11,413
Speaker 23: you remember the suits? No one for the zany colorful suits.

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01:50:11,453 --> 01:50:14,053
Speaker 23: They dressed up for the occasion and they just got

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Speaker 23: straight into it. There was no lag, there was no like,

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01:50:18,653 --> 01:50:20,533
Speaker 23: let's figure this out, let's remember how to do this.

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Speaker 23: They were just straight into it.

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Speaker 4: And of course you got season performers, right.

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Speaker 23: You got Tim Finn up there, You've got his brother,

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01:50:26,453 --> 01:50:29,573
Speaker 23: younger brother, Neil Finn on lee guitar, and they've got

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01:50:29,653 --> 01:50:34,693
Speaker 23: these anthems like songs that just have permeated New Zealand's fabric,

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01:50:34,853 --> 01:50:36,293
Speaker 23: you know, like you just know them. You know, I

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01:50:36,373 --> 01:50:40,093
Speaker 23: see reds. You know, history never repeats, you know, poor boy.

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Speaker 23: And my favorite was Message in a Bottle, Message to

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Speaker 23: my Girl. Just this like one of the best songs

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Speaker 23: ever written. I reckon, just an absolute stunner. It really

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Speaker 23: brought those generations together. The kids around me were filming

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01:50:55,013 --> 01:50:59,893
Speaker 23: themselves singing along to these fifty year old songs. It

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Speaker 23: was remarkable. I had actually a dad next to me

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Speaker 23: who had his arm around his kid, just mere and

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01:51:04,453 --> 01:51:06,533
Speaker 23: he was pointing out members of the band and sort

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Speaker 23: of explaining who they were and what they've achieved over

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01:51:09,653 --> 01:51:10,333
Speaker 23: their careers.

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Speaker 4: It was just that kind of like show.

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Speaker 23: It was kind of magical.

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Speaker 3: It's really special.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what is your plan for today? I see

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01:51:20,173 --> 01:51:23,213
Speaker 2: that the temperature is probably actually pretty amenable, right, seventeen

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01:51:23,333 --> 01:51:25,133
Speaker 2: is the higher today, so it's not going to be roasting.

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Speaker 2: Mainly stretched in the imagination.

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Speaker 23: We need to talk about christ stitchers with it because

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Speaker 23: it is wild. It was freezing cold yesterday and then

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01:51:34,373 --> 01:51:38,253
Speaker 23: got to the festival in a jersey, two T shirts

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01:51:38,293 --> 01:51:40,693
Speaker 23: and a jacket and the sun came out and suddenly

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01:51:40,973 --> 01:51:44,653
Speaker 23: I didn't need any of it. It's so changeable down

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01:51:44,693 --> 01:51:47,213
Speaker 23: here today. The sun is out, it's looking really magical.

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01:51:48,013 --> 01:51:51,413
Speaker 23: There's a lot more of that those danced DJs on today,

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01:51:51,653 --> 01:51:54,133
Speaker 23: so I'm hitting along to see phase of day's was

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01:51:54,173 --> 01:51:57,933
Speaker 23: one of the local New Zealand acts playing. And then yeah,

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01:51:57,973 --> 01:52:00,373
Speaker 23: the big one, the one making the most of that big,

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01:52:00,453 --> 01:52:03,733
Speaker 23: gigantic led screen. That's Don Dolla, this international DJ who

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01:52:04,213 --> 01:52:08,853
Speaker 23: apparently has big, the big show, the big climax, the

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01:52:08,893 --> 01:52:13,253
Speaker 23: big end of the festival. So yeah, another big, big

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01:52:13,373 --> 01:52:16,293
Speaker 23: day ahead. I'm trying to like look after my feet

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01:52:16,333 --> 01:52:18,373
Speaker 23: and my legs and not too many steps this morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's have a bit of energy

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01:52:20,613 --> 01:52:22,973
Speaker 2: for tonight. Do you get a sense from being there,

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01:52:23,333 --> 01:52:26,733
Speaker 2: like the kind of split between local and and you

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01:52:26,813 --> 01:52:28,213
Speaker 2: know and out of town visitors.

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Speaker 4: I think it. They have told me.

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Speaker 23: I think it's around sort of fifty to fifty or

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Speaker 23: forty sixty, you know, like airport's are maxed out. I

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01:52:38,573 --> 01:52:40,613
Speaker 23: tried to get an over this morning and couldn't think.

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01:52:40,653 --> 01:52:44,373
Speaker 23: You know, they have maxed everything out down here. Organizers

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Speaker 23: told me they've taken every portalo within like one hundred

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01:52:47,573 --> 01:52:51,693
Speaker 23: kilometer radius, so it's it's yeah, I don't know how

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Speaker 23: they get bigger from here, because it's just you can

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01:52:55,053 --> 01:52:58,773
Speaker 23: feel everything kind of like squeezed. It's reaching this pinch point, Like,

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01:52:58,933 --> 01:53:02,413
Speaker 23: how how can it possibly grow when it's already just

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01:53:02,573 --> 01:53:03,053
Speaker 23: so big?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I to see. Yeah, well, look, make sure

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Speaker 2: you hydrate, make sure I know you're a season you're

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Speaker 2: a season festival goer, but make sure you get a

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01:53:13,573 --> 01:53:15,373
Speaker 2: little bit of time off your feet at some point

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Speaker 2: and have a wonderful time. I'm deeply, deeply envious, so

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Speaker 2: make sure you lap it up.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jack.

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Speaker 23: I'm not sure anything of the top spleens today, but

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01:53:26,453 --> 01:53:26,893
Speaker 23: we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh very good. Can't wait to hear how Day

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01:53:29,453 --> 01:53:32,933
Speaker 2: two goes. Chris Schultz there at Electric Avenue in christ Hitch.

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Speaker 2: Of course you can hear more from Chris on his

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Speaker 2: sub stack boiler room and given Dom Dollar is going

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Speaker 2: to be closing out Electric GAV twenty twenty six, this

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Speaker 2: evening with a big duff duff thing on the stage

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Speaker 2: with the with the massive screen. I reckon We'll pick

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Speaker 2: a Dom Dollar Show song to close out the show

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Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes, eight minutes to twelve. On

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Speaker 2: News Talks, he'd be.

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Speaker 3: Cracking.

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Speaker 1: Way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack Team News.

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Speaker 2: It is time for us to hand over the mic.

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Speaker 2: to my wonderful producer Libby, and for all your texts

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Speaker 2: and emails throughout the morning, I'm back with your next

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning. Until then, we're going to leave you with

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Speaker 2: dom Dollar playing the main stage at Electric av and

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01:54:46,093 --> 01:55:06,893
Speaker 2: christ Church tonight. This song is Dreaming Sweden.

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01:55:08,053 --> 01:55:08,973
Speaker 4: The story.

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01:55:10,573 --> 01:55:41,333
Speaker 5: Now I Think, consoling, chains, everything change.

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01:55:55,533 --> 01:56:00,453
Speaker 13: My friends so sweet and innocent. The story Netherlands woke.

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Speaker 21: Up and no I thing con say that.

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