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Speaker 1: Oh chum love Rancid, Welcome along to the Unnamed Podcast, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the fifth of December twenty twenty four. Mashes here, Joey

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Speaker 1: Wheeler's here, too good to be here, f olers.

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Speaker 2: I cap if I could explain New Zealand's catching performance

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Speaker 2: in the last test with one word, yes, Rancid, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Rancid's probably good to describe it. Symbols,

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Speaker 1: one word symbols.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they we had symbol hands yeah, oh yeah, yeah, came.

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Speaker 1: In like why I like the crocodiles symbol. That's a

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Speaker 1: good point. Yeah, where are the soft hands? Do you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm going to say? Three words hands like feet? Well,

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Speaker 1: we haven't said who we're talking to today on the

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Speaker 1: podcast yet. People would have read the title maybe yeah,

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Speaker 1: the hairy rav Russian reveal.

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, you're saying if you were to explain the

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Speaker 2: game in one word, you'd say hands like feet.

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Speaker 1: I'd described the New Zealand fear performance and that last

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Speaker 1: test against England I described them as having hands like feet. Sorry, man,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't misting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that makes sense now, yes, your hands like fat

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Speaker 2: Joey said, simple hands yeah, and then yeah right, and

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Speaker 2: you said, rnswered, Yeah, I'm up to speak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. I'm there with you. The little

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Speaker 1: recap that one richend and drop any catches?

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Speaker 4: Did he? No?

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Speaker 1: But let's not forget that it was the one against Australia.

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Speaker 1: But we don't need to talk about that. Everyone drops catches. Yes,

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Speaker 1: she's claiming he's never dropped a catch. It was on

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Speaker 1: the other day. You I haven't He's never dropped a catch.

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Speaker 1: I haven't ropped a catch since twenty nine. He actually

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Speaker 1: claims he hasn't dropped the catch since nineteen ninety nine,

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Speaker 1: and that was when he was born.

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Speaker 3: You remember your any memorable drops?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: So many?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 1: I dropped James Marshall. Yeah, I remember this one. I

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Speaker 1: dropped James Marshall at first slip absolute gerber. Hold on,

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Speaker 1: hold on, who did I drop?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: I dropped someone off the bowling of James marsh James Marshall.

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Speaker 1: That was what it was. You were workicking with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're too busy giving me chirp because I just

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Speaker 2: busted to my shorts because I was a little bit

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Speaker 2: of weight at the time, and you know, you weren't

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Speaker 2: focusing on the game.

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Speaker 1: It was annoying it was the first ball. I think

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Speaker 1: this guy came out and he scored some runs in

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Speaker 1: the end of and James Marshall, beautiful outswinger, just perfect line,

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Speaker 1: perfect link. I saw it and I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: you know what this James Marshall is gonna He's going

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Speaker 1: to be a threat here and I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: in the money here at first slip and just get

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Speaker 1: ready to me, get ready, get ready, I thought, the

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Speaker 1: soft hands, wait for it, always hands on, always a

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Speaker 1: hands on knees, that sleep late late, pick up hands

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Speaker 1: and then just you go into where you're going. I

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Speaker 1: like the hands on knees of them, both of them. Technique,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Fleming technique. And then I thought himself it was

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Speaker 1: going to be coming to me, so stay awake here.

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Speaker 1: Sure enough he went forward the ball, the ball short

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Speaker 1: of a link, swung in the outside of all the way.

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Speaker 1: I knew it was coming to me. From the hand,

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Speaker 1: I knew it was coming to me. And first slip,

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Speaker 1: you get a good look at it from the hand.

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Speaker 1: And I watched it and I was like, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: my Brendan, but I want it. It was just about

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Speaker 1: sort of cock height.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, lovely it's perfect, just slightly to the right.

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Speaker 1: And straight out. Part of my hands in and out.

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Speaker 3: Fell out of the hands.

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Speaker 1: It's for hands. Ah god, it was annoying.

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Speaker 2: It it's four hands. Was it in napes?

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Speaker 1: That was in napes? Yeah, Margaret, And I was like,

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Speaker 1: that was my chance to prove that I just gobble

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Speaker 1: them up at first slip.

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Speaker 2: I would have definitely dropped on at some point, to

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Speaker 2: be fair, Joe, I just can't actually remember. I try

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Speaker 2: and remove the other thing from my mind, to be honest. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: retions on the line, do you want to go to him?

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Speaker 2: Or should we just leave him waiting for it?

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Speaker 3: I'll pick up my dropsies theretion retion?

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Speaker 1: Are you there retching?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm here. How do you go?

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Speaker 1: How are you going? Thanks for thanks for joining us

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Speaker 1: on the Unnamed podcast.

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Speaker 4: No, it's stress. Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Oh so good.

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Speaker 1: How's prep going for tomorrow? Are you a kind? Are

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Speaker 1: you the kind of guy Riching that goes down to

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Speaker 1: the ground like Joe Rote stands on the on the block,

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Speaker 1: plays some shots, imagines the innings that you're about to play,

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Speaker 4: Drink I'm I'm not sure if I do. I used

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Speaker 4: to do a lot of shit of betting, not so

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Speaker 4: much anymore. I do. I do do it a bit

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Speaker 4: of visualization, but it's also a ground that I'm pretty

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Speaker 4: familiar with, so I feel like I don't need to

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Speaker 4: be in the middle too much. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: there's always the uncertainty, always the nerves around what's going

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Speaker 4: to happen. But we love this game, so it should

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Speaker 4: be right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, rich A's meshy here, so we don't actually talk

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Speaker 2: enough about this, I'd say, as we talk a lot

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Speaker 2: about the five days during the test, but the day

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Speaker 2: before is really what I'm interested in here is what

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Speaker 2: do you? What are you doing today? Are you going

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Speaker 2: to you going to the barbers? Are getting a bit

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Speaker 2: of a trum up? What's the plan of attack are you?

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Speaker 2: Or are you going down to the nets and having

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Speaker 2: a bit of a bat well?

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you've seen my Sally doesn't get too

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Speaker 4: much of a trimp. Often not, as I love to

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Speaker 4: have a hit, I probably tend to have a little

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Speaker 4: bit too much training sometimes. I love you about love

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Speaker 4: any balls, I'll do that and then the rest of

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Speaker 4: it will just be mincing around, hoping that the time

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Speaker 4: goes by slowly so I can get to sleep. But nah,

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Speaker 4: it's probably just hanging out with my mates a little bit,

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Speaker 4: see what they're up to and doing that stuff. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's kind of become routine now. I guess I always

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Speaker 4: joke about it. The morning I've breakfast always taste like cardboard,

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Speaker 4: can't come get it down. But the night of the

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Speaker 4: day before, it's all good.

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Speaker 3: Rechend Joey Wheelly here made hey look. Fielding performance from

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Speaker 3: the Black Cats wasn't great. Let's be honest, have the

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Speaker 3: so it can hold on to a couple at the basin.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's some that we pride ourselves

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Speaker 4: that's all you can control. Because sometimes it's sticks. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: that doesn't. And we know we're usually a very good

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Speaker 4: feeling side. So I won't say it's anything extra special

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Speaker 4: that we've we've been doing, But it's just I guess,

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Speaker 4: knowing when to switch on and switch off, specially during

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Speaker 4: a long go cricket. But I think we all have

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Speaker 1: Catching such an interesting thing, isn't it, because it's at

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Speaker 1: your level, completely psychological because you all know that you

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Speaker 1: can take. I mean, obviously there's a physical part of it,

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Speaker 1: like that catch that Glenn Phillips took, that insane diving. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there that type of thing which is just like crazy,

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Speaker 1: there's the ones that come to you and you know,

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Speaker 1: you catch probably at practice nine nine times out of

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Speaker 1: psychology around it because I reckon it is psychological.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely, it definitely is. I mean, the thing

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Speaker 4: is about cricket. I think most of the game is psychological.

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Speaker 4: I mean I probably ask a lot of the greats

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Speaker 4: We all know we've got the skills and the ability

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Speaker 4: one ball at a time and hopefully your skills and

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Speaker 4: natural reactions take over. But yeah, I mean it's an art, right,

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Speaker 4: the whole catching thing being able to especially in t

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Speaker 4: smatch cricket. You know you're out there for ninety zeros

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Speaker 4: at times, so you've got to be able to switch

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean it's all you, really you can

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Speaker 4: do and hope it sticks.

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Speaker 1: I can ask you a follow up question to that.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever, can you be honest with us, have

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Speaker 1: you ever just completely drifted off during a ball in

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Speaker 4: Surely it does happen a lot more than Yeah, it

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Speaker 4: must happen. I mean, you pride yourself on being able

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Speaker 4: to be switched on. But I mean, it is a

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Speaker 4: doesn't happen too often because the crowd's always there and

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Speaker 4: you're you're pretty switched on and you don't want to

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Speaker 4: make a mistake. No, debfinitely me on the boundary, but

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Speaker 4: I mean I try my.

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Speaker 1: Best, Richard.

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Speaker 3: Rugby players always room together on tour. Is that the

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Speaker 3: same scenario for cricketers? And who is your roomy? If so?

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Speaker 4: No, no, we we get our own room.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I follow up to a supplementary to that. Do you

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Speaker 3: a Test week? Do you do a went count? Because

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Speaker 3: that's a big thing on tour with rugby teams. You

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Speaker 3: get all the boys on their pins and you start

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Speaker 3: and the last man standing as the winner of the

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Speaker 3: wink count. Do you guys do that?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to answer that question. First, well, you.

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Speaker 3: Don't have to answer it, but who do you think

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Speaker 3: will be the high.

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Speaker 1: One?

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Speaker 4: I can't answer those.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the sixty camel origon tim Southeast

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Speaker 2: to blame on that one.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't put you in that position.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Joey Garrys.

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Speaker 3: Did I just look?

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Speaker 1: I look at the Browns and I think, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Now, when I was playing cricket as a young fellow Wrench,

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Speaker 3: after we played cricket, and back at the hotel, a

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Speaker 3: lot of hallway cricket went on. Do you boys partake

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Speaker 3: in hallway cricket or team room cricket at all?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: We played, We played by the hallway cricket and during

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Speaker 4: that Raindolph just matched Noiter. Recently in Afghanistan, we had

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Speaker 4: a serious series going on. It was me and Timmy

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Speaker 4: to score all these hundreds realistically, doesn't matter, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're you're just trying to do your job for the

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Speaker 4: team and hopefully you can win win games in that way.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting point you make there. So you're not

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Speaker 3: a real numbers guy, chen you're focused on You just

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Speaker 3: out there, see the ball, hurt the ball, smack it

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Speaker 3: wherever you want to.

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Speaker 4: Smack it, well, hopefully. I mean it probably sounds a

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Speaker 4: little more simpler than than it really is, I guess, so.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm probably people i'd probably come off as

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Speaker 4: quite a stats guy, but I don't. I'm a huge

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Speaker 4: crack and naffy for sure. But for me, it's just

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Speaker 4: trying to contribute to what the team needs in that moment.

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Speaker 4: And whether that looks like a six you'll seeming on

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Speaker 4: a difficult wicket or it means getting a double hundred

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Speaker 4: on a slightly slater one, then you try to do

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Speaker 4: whatever job you can.

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Speaker 3: Mate.

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Speaker 1: Look, thanks so much for giving us your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it greatly, and best of luck. Go out there

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Speaker 1: and smash English this weekend. Double hundred yep, that.

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Speaker 4: Would be nice. That'd be nice, guys, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: For having me appreciate it all right, see your ration?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Oh go, that's using great guy, one of the great

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest guys, such a cool customer, so talented.

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Speaker 1: He didn't quite get around to asking him where does

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Speaker 1: he when you know, when you're batting, where do you

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Speaker 1: want it? Where are you?

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Speaker 4: Just?

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Speaker 3: Yea favorite shot?

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Speaker 1: I reckon, I reckon for him, it's just a bit

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Speaker 1: short on the hip.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll be able to talk to him about

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Speaker 2: it again. But he knows how to open that heap

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Speaker 2: and put a bit of a cow It was.

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Speaker 3: As issue, wasn't it? Just tasty got out that bullshot.

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Speaker 2: Just loves it, especially in the short for me, he's

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Speaker 2: got no issues tucking into it and fa.

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Speaker 1: That one with a straightish bat that he plays. That's

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Speaker 1: a great shot.

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Speaker 2: Consider rest on him too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, long man, Harold twenty five, you're about my age.

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Speaker 1: I think you nice little paycheck from the IPL Yeah game.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of cracked the code. He's got that super

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Speaker 1: relaxed kind of vibe. He's one of those guys that's

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Speaker 1: cracked the code. Yeah, it's interesting. Why wasn't it?

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Speaker 2: Because Crackett can be perceived in so many different ways.

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Speaker 2: Like there's people that approach the sport like an individual sport,

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Speaker 2: and then there's people like it just sounds like he's

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Speaker 2: happy to be a part of a team that's playing

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Speaker 2: a sport that he's into.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and whatever he needs to do in the certain scenario.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I reckon when you get to that level, if

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Speaker 1: you're a guy that's completely focused on yourself, it's a

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Speaker 1: bit of a struggle inside of a team environment. But

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Speaker 1: if you're thinking about the team, I think, particularly as

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Speaker 1: a New Zealand player, I think you got a lot better.

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Speaker 3: He didn't want to answer the wink count question.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, No, good question though, good of you was a

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Speaker 1: good question. Well we'll we'll next time we get him

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Speaker 1: and we'll push that again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think that has to be

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Speaker 2: a standard actually for athletes we have on the show.

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Speaker 1: I definitely Gary Stead. Actually, should we get Gary Stid

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Speaker 1: on the phone tomorrow. We need to get Steed's wink count.

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Speaker 1: That's crucial. And when people need to the people need

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Speaker 1: to know. Interesting, they room by themselves. Yeah, so the

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Speaker 1: wind going to be high. Yeah, but you hear about

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Speaker 1: boxes and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: They get told to you know, not messed about a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks prior to seed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you spill the seed. Keep your keep your

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Speaker 1: seed in your get your seed in your body. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: keep keep the energy in there.

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Speaker 2: So day three of a test, you've just scored a

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Speaker 2: double one hundred, you go home and you're watching the

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Speaker 2: highlights of yourself and you think, why not? But you

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Speaker 2: can't do that?

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Speaker 1: That would have been another good question. Have whacked one

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Speaker 1: out to your own to write that one down?

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Speaker 3: Follow on count shot montage?

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Speaker 1: You ever, you ever whacked one out to your seven

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Speaker 1: for it at the Cake ten and the World Cup

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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, definitely would have, I know, without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: On that big screen of us on the Lazy Boy

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Speaker 1: All right, good on your boys, good stuff,