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Speaker 1: Has anything been changed, talked about, fought over more than

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Speaker 1: the Resource Management Act for goodnessake, and now more change.

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Speaker 1: We'll have new planning laws which allegedly will come in well,

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Speaker 1: it will overcome the culture of no allegedly big claimers.

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Speaker 1: Administrative and compliance costs will be cut by forty five percent, jered.

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Speaker 1: The government's RAMA Expert Advisory Group, Jennette Campbell is with U.

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Speaker 1: Jeanette morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys still a thing? I thought you'd been

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Speaker 1: disbanded and sorted out? Or am I completely wrong on that?

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Speaker 2: Ah. We have delivered our report to the government and

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Speaker 2: that's the end of the main work of the EAG,

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Speaker 2: but some of us are staying on to help with

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Speaker 2: the next phase of the reforms.

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Speaker 1: Broadly speaking, are we heading in the right direction?

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Speaker 2: I think so? My report so yes, I think it

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Speaker 2: is headed. It's in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: So I got excited over David Parker who said we

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Speaker 1: need to sort this out. This is a mess, and

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Speaker 1: he went and produced nine hundred plus pages of an encyclopedia.

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Speaker 1: Is this going to be any different? Well?

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Speaker 2: I absolutely hope. So, I too was excited about those reforms,

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Speaker 2: and I think we have drawn on what happened there,

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Speaker 2: and one of our key ambitions is to simplify matters.

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Speaker 1: Can you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we can. I think there's a lot

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Speaker 2: that can be done. We looked at overseas examples, the

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Speaker 2: Scottish and typical Tesciturn Scott's fashion have got national policy

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Speaker 2: which runs to a couple of pages. I think there's

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Speaker 2: a lot that we can move from from overseas.

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Speaker 1: So it is fair to suggest that the complexity of

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Speaker 1: the rules has weaponized what's going on. And I cite this,

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Speaker 1: I assume you're up with it. There's k road building

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Speaker 1: in Auckland that was turned down. The wind farm last

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Speaker 1: week was turned down under fast track in Southland. There

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Speaker 1: seems to be no end of ability for people to

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Speaker 1: hire lawyers and stall stuff.

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Speaker 2: YEP, absolutely fair criticism.

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Speaker 1: I and so how do you get around that. You're

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Speaker 1: just simply not allowed to stall stuff anymore? And if

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Speaker 1: you want to do something you can do it. Can

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Speaker 1: you make it that simple or does the pendulum then

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Speaker 1: swing so far back the other way you end up

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Speaker 1: building monstrosities you later regret.

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Speaker 2: I think there's two parts of that. The first part

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Speaker 2: is about that k road building under our recommended system.

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Speaker 2: We're going to make use of nationally standardized zones, which

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Speaker 2: are set nationally with public input. I would imagine that

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Speaker 2: site would have a commercial zoning that would commit activities

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Speaker 2: like commercial buildings, So it would be very unlikely to

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Speaker 2: even need a consent in a case like that, So

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Speaker 2: there wouldn't be opportunity to weaponize the legislation then to

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Speaker 2: hold it up. So that's the first thing. The second

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Speaker 2: thing in terms of the environment is our direction from

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Speaker 2: the government was really clear that we did need to

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Speaker 2: protect environmental bottom lines, and we've done that through the

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Speaker 2: Environment Act. So we are hoping that we can walk

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Speaker 2: that tension between development and protecting what's really important to

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Speaker 2: us as a country. And we think we've done it.

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Speaker 2: We've walked that line.

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Speaker 1: Hope you're right, Jeanette go well, appreciate it. Jeanet Campbell,

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Speaker 1: RMA Advisory Group Chair with the k ROAD building adverse

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Speaker 1: effects from building heightened form new buildings to be complement

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Speaker 1: entry to the existing and planned character of precincts. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what does that even mean complementary? Is that complementary? You

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Speaker 1: asked me, yes, yes, Bob no, So I mean that's

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Speaker 1: the sort of nonsense you're dealing with. You don't know

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Speaker 1: what the building is. It doesn't matter. I'll broach it

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Speaker 1: with the Prime Minister later on. But it just seems

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Speaker 1: a lot of waffle and if you want to find

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Speaker 1: an excuse not to do something, you can. As for

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Speaker 1: the wind farm in Southland, I literally don't understand it.

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Speaker 1: Once again, I'll ask the Prime Minister under the fast track,

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Speaker 1: and when I say fast track, the previous government's fast

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Speaker 1: track under the fast Track renewables wind Southland got turned down.

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