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Speaker 1: Either duples.

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Speaker 2: Ellen, I meant to say. The rugby match kicks off

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Speaker 2: in Dublin just after nine am our time tomorrow and

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Speaker 2: you can tune into z B for Life commentary with

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Speaker 2: Elliott Smith and Gregor Paul. It's eighteen past five now.

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Speaker 2: Three people have been arrested over the death of the

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Speaker 2: One Direction star Liam Payne. He fell to his death

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Speaker 2: from a Buenos Aires hotel balcony last month. Valen Ritziba

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Speaker 2: is an editor of the Buenos Aires Herald. Hi Agen

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Speaker 2: Valen hi have that now I see that one of

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Speaker 2: the charged apparently accompanied Liam Payne. Now what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean that they accompanied Liam Payne to Argentina.

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Speaker 3: It sounds from you know, the information that I received

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Speaker 3: from the prosecutor that it's someone who accompanied him when

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Speaker 3: he was in Buenos Aires during his stay, not that.

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Speaker 1: The Pesson came with Liam to buenas aids.

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Speaker 2: I see, okay, And they are charged with abandonment when

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Speaker 2: he was in a vulnerable state. Anserpl Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, that first person is charged with abandonment. And

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Speaker 3: there's also you know, as you mention the intro, that

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Speaker 3: there's also accusations against two other people about providing drugs,

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Speaker 3: and this first person also has that. But the big

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Speaker 3: one is the abandonment for this first person.

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Speaker 2: Do you how do you determine what? I mean, this

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Speaker 2: seems to me a really tricky charge because how do

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Speaker 2: you determine what a vulnerable state is that might lead

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Speaker 2: to somebody being in a real, really big trouble and

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Speaker 2: you can't abandon them.

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Speaker 1: That's a fantastic question.

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Speaker 3: I mean, reading through what's been sent on by the prosecutor,

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Speaker 3: you know they've gone through.

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Speaker 1: Over eight hundred hours of security camera footage.

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Speaker 3: Dozens of people have testified.

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Speaker 1: There's evidence, of course that there.

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Speaker 3: Was alcohol and drug consumption in the seventy two hours

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Speaker 3: prior to his death.

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Speaker 1: So I think I.

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Speaker 3: Am not the prosecutor, I am not legal counsel, but

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Speaker 3: I would assume that that is the It is the

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Speaker 3: conjunction of all those things that lead to that charge

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Speaker 3: being made.

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Speaker 2: And villain the hotel employee also charged with applying drugs.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the second person.

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Speaker 3: Has is a hotel employee and is being charged with

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Speaker 3: two step occasions in which they provide limpagne with cocaine

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Speaker 3: while he was at the hotel.

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Speaker 2: I was fascinated to see just the other day a

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Speaker 2: headline flesh up and say his body was being returned.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that is a long time for authorities to

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Speaker 2: hold onto a body.

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Speaker 1: Is it normal? That is again a good question.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know, because this is obviously complicated by the

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Speaker 3: fact that this is a foreigner in Argentina, So I

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Speaker 3: don't know if that made things difficult. The last time

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Speaker 3: we spoke, I remember saying a lot about the fact

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Speaker 3: that there's a sound what's being processed because this is

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Speaker 3: an ongoing investigation, So I think that's also a factor

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Speaker 3: there where you know, things were sort of held up

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Speaker 3: while the preliminary studies were being made. And in fact,

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Speaker 3: the ruling by the prosecutor hasn't been released yet obviously,

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Speaker 3: as it's the first thing we asked for.

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Speaker 1: You know, we want to see the.

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Speaker 3: Original ruling, and the prosecutor said, you know, we would

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Speaker 3: rather not because there is still some elements that we

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Speaker 3: are you know, some loose ends that we are still

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Speaker 3: tying up, and so we don't want to put out

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Speaker 3: everything just yet.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. Hey, Wellin, thanks very much for talking

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Speaker 2: us through it. As always, as Vellin Erisibau, who's a

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