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Speaker 1: is the Agenda Podcast for Monday, the fourth of November.
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Speaker 1: Paul Malharty on the show towards the end from the
Speaker 1: TB to preview the Melbourne Cup, which is tomorrow, We're
Speaker 1: going to talk about the Keewis black Caps everything in
Speaker 1: just a minute, is it? Is it? Kuy Fawkes today tomorrow? Tomorrow? November?
Speaker 3: Yeah, never remember fifth November something?
Speaker 1: Yeah, last something? Remember remember the fifth of November.
Speaker 3: That's the one. And then, like I said last week,
Speaker 3: free swing for anyone who wants to shoot guns yep,
Speaker 3: in public. It's a free swing tomorrow night. Because no
Speaker 3: one can tell the difference between a Roman candle exploding
Speaker 3: and a shotgun going off.
Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. It's only flash. Neighborhoods like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: was that gunfires? When has there been fucking gunfire in
Speaker 1: the Sutton Birkenhead? You know what I mean? You know,
Speaker 1: you know if someone's letting off a gun. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: fireworks already started in my neighborhood. That drove me up
Speaker 1: the wall.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's there everywhere. I was playing around the
Speaker 3: golf yesterday. I think you were as well.
Speaker 1: By the looks of you. I was there on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I was playing gold with my son at
Speaker 3: four point thirty in the afternoon and a whole volley
Speaker 3: of fireworks went off at four thirty, blazing sunshine. I
Speaker 3: was like, who the fuck is doing that?
Speaker 1: I think there's teenage kids across the road from me.
Speaker 1: They're doing the same thing. It's like, what a waste
Speaker 1: of time money.
Speaker 3: I feel like their parents are out and they've let
Speaker 3: them off or something. It's like, what's what's the point?
Speaker 1: Well, this goes back to Jerry's theory on combining all
Speaker 1: of the events around this time of year to one weekend.
Speaker 1: So I think you might have a better grasp on
Speaker 1: this than I do.
Speaker 3: They like savings, yeah, late day, yeah, guy fawks, and
Speaker 3: trick or treating, So you have the trick or treating
Speaker 3: when it's still light. Still dark, Oh, it's when it's light,
Speaker 3: and then daylight savings kicks in and the next night
Speaker 3: you have guy fawks, and then you have the day
Speaker 3: off on Monday.
Speaker 1: So the other way around. So it's dark.
Speaker 3: So it's dark for the guy fawks because at the
Speaker 3: moment you've got to stay up till fucking eighty nine o'clock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you switch it around spots. So you
Speaker 1: want to trick or treat during the daylight, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah because you because you do walk to look
Speaker 3: out for the pdos, so you need it to be light.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then yeah, da daye s having Halloween guy
Speaker 1: fawks and Labor weekend and have a day off the
Speaker 1: sleeper weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No one gives a shit about guy fawks. You don't
Speaker 3: have to have it on that day. Same with trick
Speaker 3: or treating. Halloween doesn't have to be on that day,
Speaker 3: No it doesn't.
Speaker 1: You just said it.
Speaker 3: And Labor Day it's just the public holiday. Who kires
Speaker 3: And then daylight saving sets tabatry, so it's just someone
Speaker 3: combine them for frist sake. It's punishing for parents as well.
Speaker 1: And that's why we're asking for your vote at the
Speaker 1: upcoming election at the ACC party because we're going that's
Speaker 1: that We've only got one policy and it's there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. That and creating a super weekend and has to
Speaker 3: be Aukland, sorry, everywhere else where we do everything in
Speaker 3: one weekend, So we do the v Eights, the America's Cup, oh,
Speaker 3: the Auckland Marathon, any other international sale GP. Everything just happens.
Speaker 3: And one three day period up in Auckland Super weekend.
Speaker 1: So we can all clear our schedules. Yes, and the
Speaker 1: beginning of that weekend we sing the national anthem and
Speaker 1: that's it done for every event. One harket, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's it done for the rest of the year. All right,
Speaker 1: let's start with the biggest sporting thing that happened across
Speaker 1: the weekend, and it had me glued to my couch. Esaid,
Speaker 1: I finished at such an awesome time yesterday, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And it was the black Caps going up going into
Speaker 1: the history books three nil whitewash of India. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was so tense that even my missus was sitting
Speaker 1: there watching the game. She never watched his test match cricket.
Speaker 1: It was so good.
Speaker 3: I didn't think we had enough runs. If I was
Speaker 3: on it's neither I looked at it and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's probably maybe thirty forty short. I reckon to putting
Speaker 3: some serious pressure on them, and then they were forty
Speaker 3: for five and I was like, year boy. And then
Speaker 3: I basically went straight to a TV because I wasn't
Speaker 3: actually paying any attention to it till someone texted me yeah,
Speaker 3: and straight to a TV. And I was gripped for
Speaker 3: the next hour and a half as it ebbed and flowed.
Speaker 3: Is that Russian pant? I was like, Oh, this little
Speaker 3: fatty's gonna take it away from us. And then he
Speaker 3: got out, got reviewed a couple of times, then he
Speaker 3: was another review, and then it was and then he
Speaker 3: stood there and argued he stood next to the umpires,
Speaker 3: like us, mate, it's all Paul rifle up in the
Speaker 3: in the box. You can't influence us. The rifleman's up
Speaker 3: there doing his work. And I think the rifleman looked
Speaker 3: at that scenario and said, you know what, fuck you you're out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're out to sit there and chirt the other armpike.
Speaker 1: Yeah fuck yeah yeah yeah, but did you see I
Speaker 1: think it was during the lunch break they played a clip,
Speaker 1: a slow motion clip of him doing like a handspring.
Speaker 1: It was shockingly athletic. He got a run up and
Speaker 1: like went just straight forward and just vaulted off his
Speaker 1: hands and back onto his feet again.
Speaker 3: He was he showing off?
Speaker 1: Was he? Yeah? He's not all it was in the
Speaker 1: warm up before the game. It was one of the
Speaker 1: wildest things I've ever seen. It makes me think guy
Speaker 1: could probably do it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's the first time that India have ever
Speaker 3: been whitewashed in a series at home.
Speaker 1: Well South Africa got them two nils.
Speaker 3: Oh in a three match yes, three series. This is
Speaker 3: another wild stat It is the first time New Zealand
Speaker 3: have won three Tests in a series because we only
Speaker 3: ever played two match series or three, and we've never
Speaker 3: won all three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so no one's ever done four or five either,
Speaker 1: so this is it's the only one that counts a
Speaker 1: two match series.
Speaker 3: So so good, so good, and this is let me
Speaker 3: talk about it on the talked about on the Mat
Speaker 3: and Jerry Show this morning, which I think you're.
Speaker 1: On tomorrow, don't did name it?
Speaker 3: Matt's not on that show, yeah, sorry, the Hedichy Breakfast
Speaker 3: with Jeremy and Friends. And it's kept our World Test
Speaker 3: Championships alive. Yes, just so, we've got to beat England
Speaker 3: three nil, so that's the first hurdle.
Speaker 1: So I wrote the rankings down so Oz, India, Sri Lanka,
Speaker 1: then US, but US in Sri Lanka and I think
Speaker 1: South Africa as well, we're on like fifty four percent
Speaker 1: win loss and then India on fifty eight. They've played
Speaker 1: three more games than US two wins at a drawer, but.
Speaker 3: They've got five tests in Aussie this summer and that
Speaker 3: is going to be tough for them. That's a good
Speaker 3: if Australia beat them four one or four nil, then
Speaker 3: not five nil, because five nil Australia to the top.
Speaker 3: Then we're in with a chance. And then South Africa
Speaker 3: need to beat Pakistan and Sri Lanka at home. They've
Speaker 3: got two tests seat against which is doable. And then
Speaker 3: then this is a hard part. Then Sri Lanka need
Speaker 3: to beat Australia at.
Speaker 1: Home for us to qualify, and we need to beat
Speaker 1: We basically need to sweep England. Yes, that's all.
Speaker 3: That's the one job we need to do is sweep
Speaker 3: England and then the rest is up to the rest
Speaker 3: of the teams the world. Yeah, the rest of the
Speaker 3: word is all I'm saying is there's still a chance.
Speaker 3: But this is I mean, it was ridiculous when we
Speaker 3: won two. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1: When we won one in a row.
Speaker 3: We celebrated the first one, didn't we Yeah, and we're like,
Speaker 3: whoa ship? I was winning fifty years for whatever it was.
Speaker 1: And the whole series. Here's how it's gone. And we
Speaker 1: bowled them out for forty six in that first one,
Speaker 1: and then we're like, yeah, but what are they going
Speaker 1: to do to us? And then we won and we're like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, yeah, but what's the pit's going to look like?
Speaker 1: In the second? Oh, we won another one. You don't
Speaker 1: win three sentence out. He was the hero of the
Speaker 1: last go oh fuck.
Speaker 3: We won all three YEP ages back in Mumbai, back
Speaker 3: in his favorite ground, the place.
Speaker 1: Of his birth.
Speaker 3: He loves the wink, loves the wank. He has the wink,
Speaker 3: and we beat them with spin. We beat them at
Speaker 3: their own game. We talked to Wags this morning. He's
Speaker 3: got a new book out and he was talking about
Speaker 3: the fact that you know, we've got simulated Indian conditions
Speaker 3: and these indoor nets. They've got now Anui and a
Speaker 3: few other places where they can simulate the conditions over
Speaker 3: in India. Hence, I think the batting against the spinners
Speaker 3: over there was amazing. It was it was really good,
Speaker 3: like in terms of what we used to do. It
Speaker 3: was attacking and then the obviously the spinners. My big
Speaker 3: concern was that ages last year match in New Zealand
Speaker 3: because we don't do India all the subcontinent again until
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I think, and I think my age about thirty three.
Speaker 3: Or no, he's thirty six.
Speaker 1: Was he older them?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying they just hope for me here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that is disappointing. Yeah, but I just think what I
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching. I enjoy watching Test matches that spin more
Speaker 1: than just green seamers. Yeah, that's so much. I mean
Speaker 1: we're only scoring two and fifty runs, but there's so
Speaker 1: much happening within those two and fifty runs.
Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing like a low scoring run. Chase Thriller.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he was thirty six two weeks ago. There
Speaker 3: you go. Yeah, he jes ptel, So that could have
Speaker 3: been his last year again for New zealing because he's
Speaker 3: not going to play in New zeal He's not going
Speaker 3: to play a New Zone.
Speaker 1: I reckon we should try and put some of those
Speaker 1: pitches together, like what the technology Run's got now, just
Speaker 1: what a couple of dust bowls. A couple of dust bowls.
Speaker 3: They're prizing them with a dust bowl and yeah, and
Speaker 3: come out and go what unveil a dust Hagley be
Speaker 3: where you do it? Yep, just start rolling the pitch. Now,
Speaker 3: I've seen dust bowls in South Canerby.
Speaker 1: You can do it. Yeah what.
Speaker 3: I hope they're still partying, You're still going because they
Speaker 3: deserve it. Darren Mitchell had a great speech at the
Speaker 3: end of the game where he was kind of rubbing
Speaker 3: it in their noses by saying, hey, we're just a
Speaker 3: bunch of kiwi's. He just loved playing cricket. You know,
Speaker 3: they're a bunch of super overpaid superstars. He didn't say that,
Speaker 3: you see, they're a bunch of superstars.
Speaker 1: He didn't say it with his words.
Speaker 3: Now you implied it that we just Kiwis he just love?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is this the real?
Speaker 1: Fuck you? Yeah?
Speaker 3: You? You underestimated us and we pulled your pants down
Speaker 3: and spent your little bodies.
Speaker 1: Is one of those things where you see those for
Speaker 1: some reason, watching India, you think there's so much better
Speaker 1: than us, and anytime you see Kee we in one
Speaker 1: of those situations. Oh fuck, I don't actually think it's
Speaker 1: like Stephen Adams in the NBA. You're like, look at
Speaker 1: Dwight Howard and these dads. You're like, look at the
Speaker 1: state of these guys, like we never produce athletes like that,
Speaker 1: and Steven Adams has throwing these guys around here. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I can. I'm not that good. Jimmy Neisham,
Speaker 1: I mean everyone, it was all over social media last night.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Nisham, what do you eat for food? The stud
Speaker 1: formerly Little Lamb say he looks like an ol packer.
Speaker 1: He posted onto his Instagram story. Is this the greatest
Speaker 1: Kiwi sporting achievement of this century? Oh okay, that's a
Speaker 1: hot take. That is a hot take. I've written down
Speaker 1: a couple of things that sprung to my mind. Would
Speaker 1: you'd have to probably put the goat and the boat
Speaker 1: in there in terms of what she's achieved achieved over
Speaker 1: that rugby world cut back to back, yes, eleven fifteen,
Speaker 1: the World Test Championship, Yeah, yeah, I think this is
Speaker 1: more impressive than the World Test Championship. Yeah. And then
Speaker 1: the time I charged down a conversion against Temuka and
Speaker 1: O nine.
Speaker 3: So those are the Yeah, that's the Big Four. How
Speaker 3: long did they how long did that person take the
Speaker 3: line up there?
Speaker 1: Kick? Well, the dirty secret is it never got high
Speaker 1: in the crossbar. That's how I managed to charge it down.
Speaker 3: They kicked it into you. It was never gone over.
Speaker 3: You were just running back to half way. I was
Speaker 3: way offside as well anyway. Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: I can't. It's a hot take. There is people trying
Speaker 3: to compare it to our series victory in Australia. First
Speaker 3: was back in eighty six, so I think that was when.
Speaker 1: So, but I think that.
Speaker 3: The Australian team at that time we talked about it
Speaker 3: this morning with Mike Hessen. The Australian team at that
Speaker 3: time were ranked like seventh in the world, you know,
Speaker 3: And so I think although it was a big quite
Speaker 3: a big task winning in Australia, they went the greatest team,
Speaker 3: whereas India other world's number one team, they are ranked
Speaker 3: number one in their home conditions and we beat them.
Speaker 1: And they've got all their dudes, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: like this is a down for them.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 3: So it's great. It's great stuff. And unfortunately I've had
Speaker 3: to cancel every single town hall and I've got some
Speaker 3: big news. The black Caps Supporters Support Group has been disbanded.
Speaker 3: Oh you've torn it down, torn it down, taking the
Speaker 3: t shirts off sale. Looked up they could be Look,
Speaker 3: it's not saying that we can bring it back. We'll
Speaker 3: probably bring it back at some stage, but for now,
Speaker 3: the black Caps Supporters Support Group is no longer. We
Speaker 3: do not need to hold each other. No, you just
Speaker 3: celebrate with your friends.
Speaker 1: That's right. Give a big middle finger to Indian cricket vans. Correct, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just ride this.
Speaker 3: I tailed into a couple on the comments as well,
Speaker 3: social gods.
Speaker 1: Well, the funny thing is that we posted that Coli
Speaker 1: meme again, the Tiger King meme yet again, and I
Speaker 1: was scrolling through the comments looking for the Indian fans
Speaker 1: waiting in, but it was all just kiwis. Yeah. For
Speaker 1: the first like three hundred comments was just people just
Speaker 1: being like so stoked that we won.
Speaker 3: There was one one Indian fangaming and kind of broken
Speaker 3: english Shane, how many ic C CAPSU one? Ha ha ha?
Speaker 3: And then I wrote about what about Southampton kunt and
Speaker 3: I didn't didn't come back to me. Yeah, I might
Speaker 3: have had a few beers when I wrote that, I
Speaker 3: was watching that. Yeah, yeah, it's fucking just I don't know.
Speaker 3: It felt so good, so good.
Speaker 1: The image that they projected over the top of Wankidie
Speaker 1: Stadium with Tom Latham and the like series score. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to screenshot that and make my bloody yeah screensaver.
Speaker 1: It's just giant. He's got his arms folded, three nils
Speaker 1: so good, suck it. What are they saying over the
Speaker 1: are do you record like the dapers or anything.
Speaker 3: I guarantee this saying just doesn't count. It's all about Australia.
Speaker 3: We're just preparing for Australia. The results in Australia are
Speaker 3: the ones that count. Yeah, we need to focus on that.
Speaker 3: They'll be they'll be washing over with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bullshit, bullshit, although I.
Speaker 3: Can't imagine you're going to get away with it. They've
Speaker 3: just been humiliated by a little country in the South Pacific.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always wonder what the media reports on it
Speaker 1: over there, like do they talk.
Speaker 3: About it or do they come it's not as controlled
Speaker 3: as say, like in the Middle East. I think they're
Speaker 3: still open criticism.
Speaker 1: But like if you watch Krooking FO there's like no
Speaker 1: because that's Indian owned. Yeah, they do not ship on
Speaker 1: the Indian team and they gloss over any of the
Speaker 1: losses as.
Speaker 3: It was funny. We were between to Mike Hesson this morning.
Speaker 3: Jerry said, see, I'm going to text the other thing.
Speaker 3: He made it out. He goes, isn't it great to
Speaker 3: beat these arrogant blah blah blah blah, and like it goes, Look,
Speaker 3: I work in India. I'm not I'm going to pass
Speaker 3: judgment on that his house was purchased and he's not
Speaker 3: going to weigh in on that. He was good.
Speaker 1: He was good about it though. Yeah, it's just so good.
Speaker 1: It's just so good. I could I could just sit
Speaker 1: in front of the smocrophone for an hour and say
Speaker 1: it's so good, but we won't. We are selling a
Speaker 1: yute before we walked in here. All thanks to Auto Trader.
Speaker 1: The bids are up to seven and fifty, which is
Speaker 1: which is still a bargain. It's still about half of
Speaker 1: those bids in me. But there there's about five thousand
Speaker 1: dollars worth of stuff that comes with us because some
Speaker 1: of the other stations that we work with have chipped in.
Speaker 1: So if you place the winning bid, not only do
Speaker 1: you get the yute and all of the proceeds we're
Speaker 1: going to donate to November End Zed. They've filled the
Speaker 1: glove box and the boot with all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1: We've got one thousand dollars worth of petrol vouchers which
Speaker 1: you will need, a thousand dollars worth of grocery vouchers,
Speaker 1: plus iPhone sixteen from our mates at ZM, and a
Speaker 1: Marshall amp Bear fridge dropped into the tray as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've chucked the Makita site radio in
Speaker 3: there as well.
Speaker 1: I've seen that too, So there is over five grand
Speaker 1: worth of stuff in there, So like you're already might
Speaker 1: not the at least just bid five grand, So whatever
Speaker 1: you're actually there's a few different ways you can skin
Speaker 1: it in your own head. You can say I'm making
Speaker 1: you know this this charitable donation, or I'm buying five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars worth of stuff and then I'm only paying
Speaker 1: two and a half grand for the ute. Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: there's all sorts of different ways that you can justify
Speaker 1: this purchase to yourself. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what it really is is a sick ninety eight straight six.
Speaker 3: Yep it's a gas guzzler. Oh yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to hide the fact that you're going
Speaker 3: to be fueling that thing. Yeah, hardcore, but it sounds.
Speaker 3: But when you start it up and when you excite that,
Speaker 3: I'll hum on your balls on that brand new seat.
Speaker 1: I've set it before. I'll say it again, an ev bloody.
Speaker 1: Even a little hatchpat doesn't make my balls tangle, you know,
Speaker 1: and this thing does. In fact, that should have been
Speaker 1: the first thing in the at the top of the listing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this thing, this thing will make your balls'll make your
Speaker 1: balls tangle. So go and go and go and invest
Speaker 1: in that thing. It's running for the whole month, so
Speaker 1: I expect that this will ramp up towards the end there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just text ute to three two three and
Speaker 3: you'll get a direct link to auto trader.
Speaker 1: Yep, brilliant. All right, let's take a break. There's still
Speaker 1: so much sport to get to it. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: On Saturday night, Lan I went down to my local
Speaker 1: Risa with Mconi and chris Key and Storm and we
Speaker 1: watched the football and then we watched the league. It
Speaker 1: was actually great Saturday.
Speaker 3: It was next level that Saturday because I went to
Speaker 3: the Breakers. So I watched the last part of the
Speaker 3: football on my phone and transit to Spark Arena and
Speaker 3: saw the two goals and was celebrating with people around me,
Speaker 3: and then I went to the Breakers game which started
Speaker 3: at seven, so I watched a bit of the Breakers
Speaker 3: and then the league kicked off and then the cricket
Speaker 3: was on at the same time. So I was at
Speaker 3: the Breakers watching the Breakers play the Adelaide thirty six's
Speaker 3: and had one phone playing Toma versus the Kiwis and
Speaker 3: the other phone I had Black Caps India and someone
Speaker 3: was sitting behind me going you get running in a
Speaker 3: very complex operation, and I was like I was flocking
Speaker 3: in between punting as well. The Breakers that flew under
Speaker 3: the radar, but they played out of their skins today. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they scored one hundred and eight points season. Christ Jackson
Speaker 3: cat cart right, he was off, he was going off
Speaker 3: his head.
Speaker 1: He he is a good player. Man, he is sick.
Speaker 1: I'm stoked that we managed to re sign him as well.
Speaker 1: He was at the Trevors Scott concert and I made
Speaker 1: I said that guy's the old staff for the Breakers,
Speaker 1: and she's like the big, tall white guy there. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, a little bit the other next to him,
Speaker 1: I said, can you just just quietly so he doesn't notice?
Speaker 3: Can you just go stand back to back with him?
Speaker 3: He's the same height as my missus. Does it, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. And I tell you who was there who
Speaker 3: got everyonegoing. Taco Bell was there, the seven foot monster
Speaker 3: Taco Bell. We call them Tago Bell. Yeah, Taco full
Speaker 3: of Taco Bell, seven seven six. So Taco Bell was
Speaker 3: walking around the outside of the court and he was
Speaker 3: with a guy who was six six. It made him
Speaker 3: look like a dwarf. My kids were like, I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to get on court and get photos with him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but hopefully he can play. He's such a monster. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's out of control.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. He looks like an alien. It's like if
Speaker 1: you're that tall and you can walk in chew gum
Speaker 1: at the same time like you're in the team.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hopefully he gets to run. But yeah, they
Speaker 3: absolutely spot. They were outsiders in that game, and they
Speaker 3: thumped them by about thirty forty points.
Speaker 1: So at home, that's at home court advantage. When they've
Speaker 1: got you know, when you get ten thousand dudes filling
Speaker 1: out Spark Arena and watching League on their phones. There's
Speaker 1: no atmosphere like and cricket and League which we lost
Speaker 1: twenty five twenty four to Tonga. This was a bruising
Speaker 1: game man, straight from the outset today. Yeah, the hits,
Speaker 1: it was like the biggest hip men of the NRL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just put face to face and told to run it straight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A little disappointed in the hooker they were two separate
Speaker 1: and also they need to both be going at the
Speaker 1: same time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the irony as the all black one got
Speaker 3: face to face with the English. Yeah, the English went
Speaker 3: up to half wait and we went over the tim
Speaker 3: meadline and got in their face and I was like, fuck, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: What I want, and this is what we want. We
Speaker 1: all want that. And then a cruel irony that Keimis
Speaker 1: didn't do that and it should have been going at
Speaker 1: the same time, because the fact that would have looked
Speaker 1: sack if they're both gone, you know, right on each
Speaker 1: other's faces, still going. They came out tongue and it
Speaker 1: was like when they scored first and I was like
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. I was like, okay, they got ten minutes
Speaker 1: of like, you know, fizz and then yug gonna run up.
Speaker 1: They didn't. They kept going all through that first half.
Speaker 1: They smashed us, and in the second half it settled
Speaker 1: a little bit. We started to score, Sean Johnson started
Speaker 1: getting the boys fizzed up. But they were just as good,
Speaker 1: I mean, evidently better than we were. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: it just looked like we had we had our chances
Speaker 1: to win it. Sean Johnson had to drop goal. A
Speaker 1: Sarka had a drop goal. Probably should have taken the
Speaker 1: tackle on, but anyway, penalty as well that was missed.
Speaker 1: Again I keep saying, take the post off the pitch.
Speaker 1: Here's my flaming hot take from this game. The state
Speaker 1: of origin rules need to be changed in the NROL
Speaker 1: because they had two origin players on the field, because
Speaker 1: they are a Tier two nation and we're not allowed
Speaker 1: state of origin players. So for example, Kaylen Ponger had
Speaker 1: to decide to play for Australia even though it's eligible
Speaker 1: for the Kiwis because he wanted to play state of origin.
Speaker 1: If you are playing for Tong or some more, you
Speaker 1: don't have to make that decision.
Speaker 3: So when do they stop becoming Tier two how often
Speaker 3: they have to beat a Tier one nation to become
Speaker 3: Tier one.
Speaker 1: Today is what I'm saying right now. They need to.
Speaker 1: So Olaka and Kafusi were their two origin players. Kaufusi
Speaker 1: is one of eight Tongan players born here in New Zealand,
Speaker 1: six of those in Auckland, one in Hamilton and then
Speaker 1: one in Wellington. Saliva Harvili, Tuylola here and Jason Tomalola
Speaker 1: have all played four the Kiwis and now they play
Speaker 1: for Tonga. It's not a level playing field anymore. And
Speaker 1: so I'm calling for the Australian Rugby League Andreid and
Speaker 1: Peter Orlandi's got to come together, change the rules, level
Speaker 1: the playing field. It's unfair.
Speaker 3: No, they'll never do it. Australia first mate, it's Australia's
Speaker 3: game rugby. Australia without rugby league, yeah, there's no Australia.
Speaker 3: So they're not going to change.
Speaker 1: So basically what happens now is if you or if
Speaker 1: someone or Tongue and descent, which I think about eighty
Speaker 1: percent of the league is now, and you don't make
Speaker 1: the Australian team, you just go play for tong or
Speaker 1: some more. Because if Izzy call you back up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're straight back in there.
Speaker 3: And you can play Origin, which they make about sixty
Speaker 3: grand Aussie a game.
Speaker 1: That's right, But then we're hamstrung and all of these
Speaker 1: players that are New Zealand born, players that should buy
Speaker 1: rights be in our team, are now over there playing
Speaker 1: for those two point level the playing field.
Speaker 3: Man, it's a good point. So we knocked out. We're out.
Speaker 1: Yeah well yeah, well, I mean we haven't won anything,
Speaker 1: so yeah we're out. And then what Tongue Australia Final.
Speaker 1: Yeah what, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you when
Speaker 1: they'll level the playing field as if Tongui Australia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were like the Origin players are out. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's that's my flaming. I'll take Aukland FC.
Speaker 1: I watched that game, Like I said at the at
Speaker 1: the Rezu, it's just so good having a bit of
Speaker 1: a rivalry.
Speaker 3: Great, it's good, and there was it sparked up the
Speaker 3: Phoenix fans too, and that was what their biggest crowd
Speaker 3: and seasoned crowd I've ever had.
Speaker 1: I was saying this to Piney on Friday, this is
Speaker 1: only good for the Wellington Phoenix. Yeah. The introduction of
Speaker 1: this because now people give a shit like me, I
Speaker 1: give a shit about the game. Still don't know what's
Speaker 1: happening on the field, but I give a shit about
Speaker 1: the rivalry there and it's good to watch. And that
Speaker 1: port end looked insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they looked a bit lonely, that didn't they because
Speaker 3: they had empty sections either side of them, and then
Speaker 3: they were just put into this kind of a pin,
Speaker 3: little kind of pot of fans which seemed a bit
Speaker 3: over the top. To be honest. There's this three to
Speaker 3: violence which is never going to happen if you've been
Speaker 3: amongst those fans, any of those fans, No one no violent,
Speaker 3: No one's bones, there's no violence. There's no violence. So
Speaker 3: the return Derby is in about four weeks time, in
Speaker 3: the sixth of December, back at Gohard Stadium. So that
Speaker 3: is going to be a cracker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is going to be a cracker. We I
Speaker 1: noticed so many stead of the ship hats in the crowd.
Speaker 1: What I will say is, and obviously the team's only
Speaker 1: what three weeks old, two weeks old, three weeks old,
Speaker 1: I haven't really figured out what we do when we celebrate.
Speaker 1: If you're an Auckland fan because they scored it and
Speaker 1: they jumped the hoardings and were in front of the
Speaker 1: port and it was just like, all right, Auckland FC
Speaker 1: fans need to figure out one thing that happens when
Speaker 1: I reckon it's we flood the stands with stead of
Speaker 1: the ship hats, they take them.
Speaker 3: Off and wave them around there, raven around the head,
Speaker 3: like the soldiers leaving for World War two? Yeah, or
Speaker 3: do they throw them in the air like they're graduating
Speaker 3: and then just try and gather them afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, it'll be quite hard to control.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we get your hat back, but quite bad. Of
Speaker 3: one person's got nets, Oh my god. Yeah, it's through
Speaker 3: the port like that, who's the port? Because who's take
Speaker 3: down the pool? They would be a master playing from
Speaker 3: the Phoenix, from the from the Yellow Fever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, introduced nets into the port.
Speaker 3: Just get one story of the ship hit.
Speaker 1: That's up bad and then we're just like the dowsing
Speaker 1: people on the way out, treading them all for curtoos.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was. I was pretty excited by that game.
Speaker 1: The one goal, everyone went nuts. Then they piled on
Speaker 1: a second one and it's like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they threw everyone four day the Phoenix, so desperate
Speaker 3: to score.
Speaker 1: Do you say that head clash? I didn't. Actually there
Speaker 1: was a fucking banger of a head clash two dudes.
Speaker 1: And it's worse than rugby or league because in rugby
Speaker 1: and league you're bracing for contact. These two dudes, they
Speaker 1: were just going for the ball, not looking at each
Speaker 1: other and just full on a nogging on noggin, split
Speaker 1: wide open. One dude's wrapped up like the mummy. It
Speaker 1: was at all time. Hi, though one of them went off?
Speaker 1: Did one of them go off? But I think one
Speaker 1: of them got to stay on? Yeah, there is an
Speaker 1: HIA protocol just in this year, I think, but he
Speaker 1: unlikely he didn't stay off of very long, right.
Speaker 3: And also it's like do they have to do HIA
Speaker 3: every time they hit the ball sometimes you get copping.
Speaker 1: In the head. Yeah. Anyway, And also what a massive
Speaker 1: weekend of sport because the All Blecks played and we
Speaker 1: still haven't talked about it.
Speaker 3: No, and Liam Lawson more points for him and yeah,
Speaker 3: he came ninth, so he qualified fifth, which is amazing.
Speaker 3: He was fifth on the grid. But drop back a
Speaker 3: strap On came from like fifteenth on the grid.
Speaker 1: To win it.
Speaker 3: But most importantly he beat Sugi Petties again but not
Speaker 3: as teammates and Noda, but he's in the points again.
Speaker 3: So that's what you could ask for. Yeah, from Liam Lawson,
Speaker 3: that is huge.
Speaker 1: So the All Becks won by two squeaky bum time
Speaker 1: there was a drop goal that could have won it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was back and forth, up and down. I thought
Speaker 1: when we scored, we looked great. Obviously Wallace to Teddy
Speaker 1: looked great. Had to play way more than he wanted
Speaker 1: to because Cody Taylor got yes, and he's unavailable for
Speaker 1: the Island game. Yes, body as his body that they're
Speaker 1: like potentially two of our best players right now. Well,
Speaker 1: particularly if you're a Razor and you've just benched Mackenzie
Speaker 1: for body. Yeah, Nagata ring Damien, Yeah, we have to
Speaker 1: on since morning.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But anyway, so yeah, I thought of more looked great,
Speaker 3: like a few line out throw issues, but yeah, but
Speaker 3: a wrecking ball around the around the park.
Speaker 1: He was great. Get one of the wingers to throw
Speaker 1: it in.
Speaker 3: It gets yeah, who cares where they used to didn't they?
Speaker 1: Cheslin Cobby is still doing it for South Africa, is he? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Every now and then if they're out on his wing,
Speaker 1: he'll throw into the line out so they can have
Speaker 1: an extra forward in the thing. I see.
Speaker 3: That's so that's the crazy thinking of that crazy man.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: Hey, just be going back to Liam Lawson. That was
Speaker 3: our hunch. That was our agenda hunch him to score points.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3: So if you followed us in on that, then you'll
Speaker 3: be in with the money.
Speaker 1: And speaking of T A B and hunches, let's take
Speaker 1: one more quick break because tomorrow is the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 1: So we will be joined by paulmulhity right after this break. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a great honor and privilege to have live and
Speaker 1: in the flesh Paul Malhity from the tar B. Paul,
Speaker 1: big week for you.
Speaker 4: Anything on this week, it's just get my mind at
Speaker 4: the moment. There's something on tomorrow. Look it'll come to me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it'll definitely come.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a couple of races on tomorrow. I going
Speaker 1: to tell you down there in Duneda.
Speaker 3: That's it here on the swinger wing.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's the Melbourne Cup tomorrow. Everyone's talking about it.
Speaker 1: Some punishes will show up to their workplace and a
Speaker 1: suit for no reason tomorrow. I feel like if you're
Speaker 1: watching it, you can sharpen a suit.
Speaker 3: And you also can I say, if you're not into it,
Speaker 3: and you know some people are, oh yeah whatever, grow up, okay,
Speaker 3: because this is a great excuse to take the afternoon
Speaker 3: off work. So even if you're not really into it,
Speaker 3: just pretend like you're into it. We're a suit to
Speaker 3: we're a fascinator and say it's Melbourne Cap Day. I'm
Speaker 3: fucking passing off at three in the afternoon to go
Speaker 3: and take in the vibes and you're not going to
Speaker 3: stop me. Don't sit in your computing a camp three o'clock.
Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just in case our bosses are listening, of course,
Speaker 3: because we're leaving at twelve at a full time bar.
Speaker 3: But yeah, anyway, that'll.
Speaker 4: Be a great place to meet tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It will be. Yes, we might see you down there, poor.
Speaker 1: But my first question, it's the same question I ask
Speaker 1: every year, and funnily enough, it's the same answer every year,
Speaker 1: but I can still never remember it. What race and
Speaker 1: what times? The actual Melbourne Cup itself.
Speaker 4: It's fairly easy because it's the same every single year.
Speaker 3: He's a bit fat. Go on lane quarter past five.
Speaker 1: It's five o'clock.
Speaker 4: Well it's it's scheduled to go at five o'clock, right, okay,
Speaker 4: And it's usually meeting seven yeah Flemington. Yeah, in fact,
Speaker 4: it's always meeting seven Flemington Race seven. If you want
Speaker 4: to use the twenty four o'clock seventeen hundred, oh that's easy,
Speaker 4: seven seventeen okay, I remember, I remember that. If I
Speaker 4: come back next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the same question, oh well I can't. That's
Speaker 1: the first thing. Everyone's like, what time is the sexual
Speaker 1: because when people are watching it in the office, they
Speaker 1: will always be like, oh, is this the Melbourne Cupula?
Speaker 1: Well it is, but this one isn't. But then the
Speaker 1: next one, this is the bloody swiper vescence play to it.
Speaker 3: One of the one of the great ruses we did
Speaker 3: when Lee Hart and Jason Hoyt were on Bougier, I remember,
Speaker 3: and I was looking after Hodaki and they came out.
Speaker 1: And said what do we do around the Melbourne.
Speaker 3: Cup And I say, I don't know. You can take
Speaker 3: it live if you want, or maybe just play last
Speaker 3: year's and so they did, and I didn't quite realize
Speaker 3: how much of a kerfuffle that would cause because they
Speaker 3: played the one, but halfway in the race, they were like,
Speaker 3: this doesn't like they made it. So it wasn't, but
Speaker 3: people believed it. And the horse that won the year
Speaker 3: before was also in that race. That happens, and so
Speaker 3: people were celebrating that they put money on it, and
Speaker 3: then they started ringing. Of course I didn't because I
Speaker 3: thought like the show was built on just bullshit, so
Speaker 3: I presumed them no, And yeah, the backlash was quite severe.
Speaker 3: People were and misleading people, and the tab got involved.
Speaker 3: I mean TB have come along ways and said I
Speaker 3: think they've got a sense of humor. But about you know,
Speaker 3: five years ago, must.
Speaker 4: I'm still working totally.
Speaker 1: So is there a prohibitive favorite tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Paul?
Speaker 1: For the for the actual race seven Melbourne Cup, it's a.
Speaker 4: Fairly wide open field this which makes it so much
Speaker 4: more interesting. There's no out and out, hot hot favorite.
Speaker 1: And we were saying this morning, people always say, are
Speaker 1: the favorite never wins at the Melbourne Cup? Is that true? Well?
Speaker 4: Never is a it's a very very long time, so
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that, But favorites don't perform very well
Speaker 4: in Melbourne Cups. The last favorite to win was Fiurente
Speaker 4: back in I think it was twenty thirteen actually, so
Speaker 4: it says about eleven years ago that was the last time.
Speaker 4: So if you like backing favorites, you might want to
Speaker 4: mix your sort of beds up of it. And I
Speaker 4: have a little spread sort of thing. But the fact
Speaker 4: that this year there's a couple of joint favorites and
Speaker 4: they've sort of been battling away to see who is favorite,
Speaker 4: it makes it just a wee bit different this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's good for the office sweepsteak as well.
Speaker 1: It's a bit more even exactly.
Speaker 4: Usually you pick out a couple and then the guy
Speaker 4: that gets a favorite thinks he's a good thing.
Speaker 1: No he's not.
Speaker 4: But if you like in that sort of from around
Speaker 4: nine dollars to twenty dollars, someone a runner that's paying
Speaker 4: around that, they are the ones that usually, in fact
Speaker 4: the last sort of four or five years, you'll find
Speaker 4: that the winners have paid between nine dollars and twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five dollars.
Speaker 1: That's sort of the sweet spot. So what are some
Speaker 1: of the names that are standing out to you or
Speaker 1: what are people saying to you around the office? Or
Speaker 1: around the traps.
Speaker 4: See now you've got to block out the why noise
Speaker 4: because here's always a lot of chatter around and everyone's
Speaker 4: a Melbourn. Everyone's got to everyone has a tap, so
Speaker 4: you'd be taking the whole field if you listen to everyone.
Speaker 4: So if we have a look, why don't we look
Speaker 4: at the key We runners first? Yes, and we've got
Speaker 4: three in the race, the best chance of the key
Speaker 4: We runners. And he's paying a web money opened up
Speaker 4: at seventy one dollars, touch fifty one dollars I think
Speaker 4: overnight now just back out to sixty one dollars. Number six.
Speaker 4: Sharp and Smart trained by Graham and Debbie Rogerson. Sharp
Speaker 4: and Smart to be ridden by Mickey d oh Now.
Speaker 4: Sharp and Smart he's a five year old. Two years
Speaker 4: ago he was the best three year old in New Zealand.
Speaker 4: He won the New Zealand Derby. He won the group
Speaker 4: won Herbie Dyke against the older horses.
Speaker 1: He won the Herby Dike.
Speaker 4: He won the Herbie Herby Dark Right, he won that.
Speaker 4: Now he's had a few issues and.
Speaker 1: Off the field.
Speaker 3: He was late to the bus.
Speaker 4: I can't so he hasn't found that form that he
Speaker 4: showed as a three year old he can definitely he
Speaker 4: should get the two miles right, and he ran a
Speaker 4: very very encouraging third at Mooney Valley a few weeks ago,
Speaker 4: so if he was to find the form that he
Speaker 4: had as a three year old, he's definitely a nice
Speaker 4: little each way.
Speaker 1: Go damn it, I've just put on the nose.
Speaker 3: Jesus trigger trigger, I'd just stuck it on the I
Speaker 3: just stuck ten on the nose.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you, well, I hope I get a commission
Speaker 4: out of this one. This is great, so he should.
Speaker 4: He's probably our best chance. Outside of that, We've got
Speaker 4: Positivity number twenty one, trained by Andrew Foresman, written by
Speaker 4: Winona costing one hundred and one dollars at the moment,
Speaker 4: and Trust in You to be written by Mark Duplass
Speaker 4: who used to ride here in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now rides.
Speaker 4: Over in Australia and Queensland, trained by Bruce Wallace and
Speaker 4: Grant Cooksley, also out at one hundred and one dollars.
Speaker 4: So the three key we runners they're rouffies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, should we say longish lass put another ten dollars
Speaker 1: so I.
Speaker 3: Have I was thinking because I've tried to. I've tried
Speaker 3: to follow the form on Melbourne Cups in previous years,
Speaker 3: and this year I've changed my tactic. Poor mighty yes,
Speaker 3: I've gone for what I think the commentary will sound
Speaker 3: the best, you know when they cross the line and
Speaker 3: the race caller, so I've gone.
Speaker 1: For that one smooth operator.
Speaker 3: So I've gone for land Legend right at fifteens and
Speaker 3: warp speed at thirty one because i could see you
Speaker 3: guys come on our.
Speaker 1: Homes trake warp speed.
Speaker 3: He is at warp speed and takes him.
Speaker 1: That's what I've That's what I'm going for.
Speaker 3: So I'm going vibe on commentary with a land Legend.
Speaker 3: Now he's a Melbourne Cup legend. Correct here the line
Speaker 3: that the line they write themselves warp speed and land
Speaker 3: Legend right themselves. So I've gone for futures on them.
Speaker 3: I got warp speed at thirty one and land Legend
Speaker 3: at fifteen.
Speaker 1: Right, warp speed? What is it withdrawny?
Speaker 3: I put these on like about three weeks ago.
Speaker 1: That is a shame, isn't it, lad scratch?
Speaker 4: So now warp speed is currently twenty six dollars when
Speaker 4: the Melbourne So you got to weave it a value
Speaker 4: thirty one dollars. It's the Japanese horse a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago around in the Coolfield Cup. Slightly disappointing.
Speaker 3: You get to say, saving yourself, saving itself language barrier.
Speaker 4: Although there was some would say there was a bias
Speaker 4: on the track. You had to be up near the
Speaker 4: front right at Calfield that day he wasn't right.
Speaker 1: So some would say you left to be up to
Speaker 1: the front every day.
Speaker 4: Certainly when you get to the finishing face, that's always
Speaker 4: a good thing.
Speaker 1: Where up front it's the finishing face.
Speaker 3: And I've done the barrier draw I've done the barrier drawer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay at warp speeders jumping out of three?
Speaker 3: Okay, that is that good? Is that what I mean?
Speaker 1: Look at the barrier drawer? How many horses are there's about.
Speaker 3: Forty a lot of horses, twenty four twenty four horses.
Speaker 3: Where in the barrier drawer? Is it all determined with
Speaker 3: the conditions or is it best to be on the inside.
Speaker 4: What's usually the horse? If you've got a horse that
Speaker 4: likes to go go early, go early, Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 4: want an inside barrier so you don't have to come
Speaker 4: across the whole field to get to the rail. If
Speaker 4: you've got a horse that's going to settle back, then
Speaker 4: you probably want somewhere in this sort of nine out
Speaker 4: towards about fourteen sort of thing, because then you can
Speaker 4: sort of come across Settle midfield just one off the.
Speaker 3: Rail right, and it's all random, isn't the draw. It's
Speaker 3: just a.
Speaker 4: Draw's random, just to pull it all out of the basket,
Speaker 4: and that's where you go.
Speaker 1: But twenty four, you your race is considerably longer than
Speaker 1: anyone else's, isn't it. If you're away out there and
Speaker 1: car park.
Speaker 4: Not too many have won from twenty for car park. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think now very Elegant wasn't drawn twenty four, but
Speaker 4: was drawn very very wide when she won with James
Speaker 4: McDonald aboard Now she ran the year before that had
Speaker 4: a wide drawer and didn't quite get the trip that
Speaker 4: she needed. McDonald had her across before they got to
Speaker 4: the finishing post the first time round and was sitting
Speaker 4: in behind the favorite one off the perfect so he
Speaker 4: knew when to pounds. As they came round the turn.
Speaker 4: I think the favorite went too early and he was
Speaker 4: able to just peel off out of the slipstream. Well
Speaker 4: the rest was history, and I think very Elegant was
Speaker 4: paying around fifteen dollars. So there we're in that sort
Speaker 4: of sweet spot again.
Speaker 1: I think that might have been the year where I
Speaker 1: accidentally put the bed on twice and it paid out twice.
Speaker 3: That's what's fair opened. And what's J Mack riding this year?
Speaker 3: Has he got a mount?
Speaker 1: Yes? She does? Where are we because.
Speaker 3: I basically I don't know much about Australian racing, and
Speaker 3: I actually know even less about racing, but I take
Speaker 3: the tips. But whenever I go to Australia, I just
Speaker 3: look at what J Max riding and I just get
Speaker 3: on that and it tends to actually more times than
Speaker 3: not coming.
Speaker 1: We're saying they should switch switch the jockey and horse
Speaker 1: name around. What is J Max? He should be listed
Speaker 1: as and then the horse name under He doesn't even ride?
Speaker 1: Oh he got you know, he got scratched? Oh did he?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately? So he's not in this year?
Speaker 1: Is Melbourne Cup? Jeez, if you were a horse owner
Speaker 1: and you saw a J Max horse got the scratch,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you give him a bell? Yeah?
Speaker 3: When you get your jockey and go, hey, h do
Speaker 3: you want to maybe we'll still pay it.
Speaker 4: So I'm feeling sure he was down to ride Via Sestina,
Speaker 4: who he rode to an eight length victory in the
Speaker 4: Cox Plate a few weeks ago. So the connections the
Speaker 4: trainer have decided not to take her to the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 4: They're going to be riding her on the last eight
Speaker 4: champions Day of the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 1: Carnibal right right, Okay, So outside of the Kiwis, who
Speaker 1: are some of the big you talked about those two
Speaker 1: tied for the favorite, yep who the hot?
Speaker 4: So at the moment Voban number one trained by Willie
Speaker 4: Mullins to be ridden by William Buwick six dollars and
Speaker 4: fifty cents opened up at seven, so in a touched
Speaker 4: to Sex fifty and Buckeroo trained by Kiwi Chris Waller,
Speaker 4: who applied his trade in Woodville I think in the
Speaker 4: early nat is a Woodville boy. God yeah, now one
Speaker 4: of the well, one of the most successful trainer in
Speaker 4: Sydney probably in Australia. You could argue that number two
Speaker 4: Buckeroo six fifty as well, so, and that opened up
Speaker 4: at five dollars and fifty cents, so drifted slightly Buckeroo,
Speaker 4: so equal favorites at the moment. Voban at six fifty,
Speaker 4: Buckeroo at six fifty now Voban number one. Number one
Speaker 4: is it's not a very good saddlecloth to have on
Speaker 4: when we're talking about the Melbourne Cup, very very hard
Speaker 4: because it means you're the top weight. You're carrying the
Speaker 4: heaviest load around all the way around that Flemington trad.
Speaker 3: How do they decide the weights on that as well?
Speaker 3: Like how's that.
Speaker 4: The Victorian racing handicapper. Yep, he'll look at how the
Speaker 4: horses have been formed and he'll judge each one a weight.
Speaker 3: Jeez, that's a lot of responsibility on a hell of
Speaker 3: a lot of responsibility.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
Speaker 4: The theory is he gives hands the weights out, ye,
Speaker 4: and when they come around the turn and get to
Speaker 4: the finish line, all twenty four.
Speaker 1: Finish at the same time. Right, that's what he's going for.
Speaker 4: That never happens in the feast ley, but that is
Speaker 4: the sort of theory behind it.
Speaker 3: And do they get do occasionally they go, oh, I
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't have put that weight on the horses.
Speaker 1: It comes the last, you know, the favorite cat last.
Speaker 4: I can tell you that trainers and owners of horses,
Speaker 4: certainly here argue that before the race and certainly afterwards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine, I.
Speaker 1: Can't imagine anyone's ever been happy with the weight they've
Speaker 1: been handed. No, no, no, yeah, that sounds right, No exactly.
Speaker 4: And it's like when the when we price up the
Speaker 4: warriors exactly, warriors a dollar foot. Oh that's ridiculous. Why
Speaker 4: are they dolive for?
Speaker 1: It can't be?
Speaker 3: And where do they this is this is a question,
Speaker 3: has nothing can do with anything. Whereabouts do they put
Speaker 3: the weights? Are they in the saddle? Are they are they?
Speaker 3: What are they? Are they little bits of lead?
Speaker 1: Are they?
Speaker 3: Coins? Are they? What are they?
Speaker 1: Are they? Donut coins? They are weight?
Speaker 4: They are weights, just like yeah, and they took them in,
Speaker 4: tuck them into the saddle, the area their little pockets there?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And what's the maximum weight that a horse has ever
Speaker 3: carried or in New Zealand?
Speaker 1: It is there?
Speaker 3: Does it just keep on going to range?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh look we could go up to sixty six.
Speaker 4: Well, when you get over the jumps, you're talking up
Speaker 4: to seventy kilos.
Speaker 3: They're carrying seventy kilos of lead weight. Yeah, weight's in
Speaker 3: there that used.
Speaker 4: To be the and now they've brought it back slightly.
Speaker 4: So shit, the horses don't have to carry as much,
Speaker 4: but it means the ones who are I guess slightly
Speaker 4: to win, Yeah, very even least weight, right, and there's
Speaker 4: there's not a lot of jockeys to get down.
Speaker 1: To that way. Yeah, you're lightweights like you two. Yeah, yeah, obviously, yeah.
Speaker 4: You'd get you almost have your you know, there's not
Speaker 4: a lot out we need you. Yeah, one of the
Speaker 4: only ones you can get down to forty nine and
Speaker 4: a half or fifty.
Speaker 3: Here, right, So what about what if you counteracted a
Speaker 3: say like I don't I'm not going to put weights
Speaker 3: on my horse. I'm going to put Jeremy Wells, who's
Speaker 3: one hundred and seven kgs instead of taking to sixty kg's.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to put a large jockey. Is that
Speaker 3: an option we could?
Speaker 1: You could do that. That's an option.
Speaker 4: It's an option.
Speaker 1: You'd rather have a sixty kilo dude with fifty kas.
Speaker 3: An option though you can throw it out that you're
Speaker 3: put Williams on the back of a horse's way.
Speaker 4: Well, I've seen Jeremy run. You'll probably run as fast
Speaker 4: as the horse.
Speaker 3: He's got a shocking gate. Okay, it's a good book.
Speaker 1: I know what you meant. Is there a gap in
Speaker 1: the market for a fun loving jock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stand out like a literally like a sore fum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're giving them the mania handicap.
Speaker 4: I think that's something that we could suggest to the
Speaker 4: Victorian Racing Cup.
Speaker 1: I think in one of the lead up races. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. I'll speak speaking of the lead up races,
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that people always ask
Speaker 1: for in the on the Melbourne Cup day is is
Speaker 1: there anything in the races beforehand? Any tips that you
Speaker 1: could dish out, because you know some people like to
Speaker 1: warm up, maybe fill the keddy up a little bit
Speaker 1: before we get to race seven. Meet seven, seventeen hundred
Speaker 1: Melbourne Cup. I love the way you did it, of
Speaker 1: course I knew that coming in. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: ask for the list just for the sake of the listen.
Speaker 1: This is the broadcasting thing. But you are true professional.
Speaker 1: So have you got any tips leading up to the
Speaker 1: race itself?
Speaker 4: So we've got a couple of domestic meetings on tomorrow,
Speaker 4: one at Ellesleie. So just a hip hop skipping a
Speaker 4: jump from here and then down south at Winger Twoy.
Speaker 4: So if we go to Ellesleie, I'll try I'll try
Speaker 4: and tip you in so that you've got something that
Speaker 4: you build a bit of a bank for the Melbourne Caps.
Speaker 1: That's what you're after. That's right, get your eye in
Speaker 1: so they come Race seven. You're seeing a beach ball.
Speaker 4: Ellesleie, Race one number seven, whit's end currently three dollars
Speaker 4: but odd surge out to three dollars and sixty right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you've got the odds sue, Yeah, I've got
Speaker 3: the odd sage says three ten on mine, but in
Speaker 3: there I put the odd sage on three sixty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: into it.
Speaker 1: Brighty hat. We'll post Lane's bett slips at things so
Speaker 1: that everyone can follow it.
Speaker 4: And one more race three. Yep, we're still there, and
Speaker 4: there's already been a bit of money which would suggest
Speaker 4: that someone's in the notes.
Speaker 1: Get on someone's very very keen. Get on it quick
Speaker 1: because that podcast can really it's.
Speaker 4: The market movement. Number six moving melody was six dollars
Speaker 4: and fifty cents now into four dollars, but with the
Speaker 4: odd surge back out to four sixty.
Speaker 1: Ok g Lane done, got a city in punt punp
Speaker 1: and by that stage you've got enough and your kiddy
Speaker 1: to work at home. Come Melbourne Cup race Paul. Just
Speaker 1: for that, you go, What if you had to stake
Speaker 1: your life on one horse tomorrow at race seven? What
Speaker 1: are you going for? Are you going to favorite? I'm
Speaker 1: not going to favorite?
Speaker 4: No, no, which probably means this will be the the
Speaker 4: one year that the fave comes and I just can't.
Speaker 4: I can't do that myself.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 4: Look, one smooth operator. I've already got a wee bit
Speaker 4: of money on one smooth operator. Currently eight dollars and
Speaker 4: fifty cents comes out of the gee Long Cup. Won
Speaker 4: the Geelong Cup and won it fairly easily. Now that
Speaker 4: used to be a fairly good guide when it comes
Speaker 4: to the Melbourne Cup. Not so much in recent years,
Speaker 4: but just the way that he finished off, I did
Speaker 4: like that. So one smooth operated at eight dollars and
Speaker 4: fifty cents. And then if you want to go. Gilee
Speaker 4: mentioned land Legend before. I don't mind land Legend myself.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: That's giving me hope.
Speaker 4: But the other one is Okita Sushi to be written
Speaker 4: by Jamie Carr. There are four female jockeys in the race,
Speaker 4: and she's one of them looking to go and do
Speaker 4: the same thing that was it Michelle did on Prince
Speaker 4: of beIN Zance back in two thousand and fifteen. I
Speaker 4: think at one hundred they paid one hundred and one
Speaker 4: dollars ben Zance. That's why most people remember, because I
Speaker 4: wasn't on. I'm guessing you two were on. Brought it again. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Okita Sushi, I think gets in at a nice lightweight
Speaker 4: and if Jamie can just settle, I think as they
Speaker 4: come around the turn, he'll ever whoever wee bit left
Speaker 4: in the tank or like the way that he's coming
Speaker 4: into this. He won the Mooney Belly cap or a
Speaker 4: week or two ago. I think if he shows that
Speaker 4: same sort of form, yeah, I think he'll be right
Speaker 4: on it. At the sort of price e gtting for
Speaker 4: twelve dollars at the moment was twenty one, so they've
Speaker 4: already come for okay, so Jesus it was one of
Speaker 4: the it'll be eight after this podcast goes up, brilliant.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, mate. We'll see you down at
Speaker 1: the Full Time Bar tomorrow. At some stage it's going
Speaker 1: to be a great day. Yeah, will we get along
Speaker 1: if you can't? Yeah, you got your suits? Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah mine?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got to find mine.
Speaker 3: Actually, I've got most the beij Safari suit that I'm
Speaker 3: worrying every year. That's right, I've watched it.
Speaker 1: I've seen it before. It's a real trait. Get along
Speaker 1: to Full Time tomorrow if you care, just to see
Speaker 1: Lane's short sleeved suit. Glane ge Laane Newman. Oh yeah, brilliant,
Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Paul enjoyed that. Tomorrow. Make you boys
Speaker 1: good luck.
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