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Speaker 2: Be welcome today the earthquake changes, update on our wine industry,

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Speaker 2: and France Rod Little. He does the UK for us

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Speaker 2: asking no welcome to the day, seven past six. If

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Speaker 2: One decision, of course, does not swing an election or

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Speaker 2: The government went to some lengths to point out the

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Speaker 2: Well as Father, as the yellow chairs go, today was

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Speaker 3: Ultimately, the President knows when you get to a good deal,

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Speaker 4: But we need this conflict to end.

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Speaker 5: The President's made that very quick.

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Speaker 2: So that's Trump and NT Yahoo. They went got together

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Speaker 5: He's shooting at me, he missed every time. It was

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Speaker 2: And to the New York mayoral race where Adams pulled

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Speaker 6: You got your wish.

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Speaker 7: You wanted Trump and your billionaire friends to help you

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Speaker 6: I love all your walks.

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Speaker 2: I love it. Then in the UK, laborer are having

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Speaker 2: and the EXE debunking system they call it community notes

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Speaker 2: Well said Mike the Founder's Theater in Hamilton was demolished

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Speaker 2: good morning, please, very good morning, Mike. Filled jobs. You

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Speaker 11: Well, I have very quickly they might before we talk

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Speaker 12: So we've been a fond farewell to Jayami tomorrow and

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Speaker 12: An enthusiasm, alacrity and excitement exactly.

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Speaker 12: This data suggests there's still plenty of surplus capacity in

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Speaker 11: Now you've got it.

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Speaker 12: But look at least they are looking at this stuff.

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Speaker 12: And I'm looking forward to quality time today digesting all

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Speaker 14: It blocked me for upholding his true history to let

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Speaker 14: Over the last decade, they have sexualized my uncle for

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Speaker 11: I will not support a company that does that.

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Speaker 14: My response to Kentucky Fried Chicken blocking me is, do

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Speaker 14: you want to know how to make their chicken truly

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Speaker 14: generally their chicken? So let Kentucky Fried Chicken deny this.

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Speaker 14: If they do, I'll say prove it. I have faction

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Speaker 14: can be a recipe that Joe Leddington, not that bull

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Speaker 14: craft that was leaked in twenty sixteen. Lee Cummings, nephew

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Speaker 2: I've always said that. I said, if you want to

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Speaker 2: know the recipe, go to Lee. Lee knows what's going

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Speaker 2: that just proves you can't pick your family unfortunately. So

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Speaker 2: as for the recipe, I've got it in front of me.

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Speaker 2: If you want it so you can make your own,

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Speaker 2: I'll sell it to you for fire bucks. So just

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Speaker 2: me in for fire bucks. I'll sell it to you.

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Speaker 2: Now speak your money. As Andrew mentioned, a moment ago,

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Sharon Zolner and see where we go

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Speaker 2: as mentioned by Andrew a couple of moments ago, basically

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Speaker 11: Us, Sharon morning, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Anything here that doesn't fairly obvious, Well, everything's.

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Speaker 15: I suppose. I thought it was actually really useful to

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Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, the line about employment. In other words,

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Speaker 15: Yeah, they got some hints about the roles of fiscal

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Speaker 15: Well, I don't think there was a bank should be

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Speaker 2: Shopping, Yes they did. I don't know if I'm making

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Speaker 15: Well, basically, during COVID there was so much money being

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Speaker 15: you the lessons from the christ Church earthquake and other

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Speaker 15: There are also some fairly stern words in there about

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Speaker 15: fiscal policy and about how it wasn't temporary, timely and targeted.

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Speaker 15: It went on and on, and that actually that legitimately

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Speaker 2: Out buy more exactly. All right, Nice to talk to you, Sharon.

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Speaker 2: As always, Sharon's on there out of the ANZ And

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Speaker 2: one of the lessons is Adrian or and Grant Robinson

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Speaker 2: Business, we go Captain Field, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate. So another meeting midweek. We're in Copenhagen.

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Speaker 2: So do you lock places down a lot more than

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Speaker 2: you used to? Given lads flying a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: around in the skies you don't know about.

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Speaker 18: There's a lot more lockdown going on. Usually when we

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Speaker 18: have these big summits here you can feel that the

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Speaker 18: area is locked down. It's a bit difficult. But when

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Speaker 18: we're now talking about there's two days of summit which

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Speaker 18: is happening in the Danish capital, Copenhagen. We've got Wednesday

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Speaker 18: twenty seven European leaders, heads of state government there for

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Speaker 18: a special summit to talk about Ukraine and European defense.

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Speaker 18: And that's followed on Thursday by that forty at least

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Speaker 18: forty heads of state or government from the European political

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Speaker 18: community coming to again to the Danish capital. What DIDN'TIK

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Speaker 18: has done is it's now receiving what we can only

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Speaker 18: say is your urgent security assistance from NATO allies. And

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Speaker 18: this follows those droned drone incursions around six airports in

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Speaker 18: Denmark over the last few days. The sort of equipment

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Speaker 18: they're getting in Mike, I mean the French are sending

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Speaker 18: thirty five anti drone trained staff and a special helicopter.

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Speaker 18: Germany is sending forty troops and a frigate, Sweden sending

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Speaker 18: anti drone apparatus, and NATO have upgraded the mission in

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Speaker 18: the Baltic seas. So we've never seen any thing this intense.

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Speaker 18: But certainly the message it's going out is these meetings

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Speaker 18: have to take place. European defense has got to be discussed,

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Speaker 18: and it's now time that stood up and said, look,

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Speaker 18: we are going to meet.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting because is this an all for one

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Speaker 2: and one for all or is there a little bit

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Speaker 2: of the well, they flew into your air space and

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Speaker 2: that's not really our air space, so you know, don't

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Speaker 2: worry about it, don't get too excited. Or are we

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Speaker 2: getting a bit sick of this and we're going to

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Speaker 2: do something about it.

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Speaker 18: It's getting now to the stage where it's just happened

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Speaker 18: so often that there really is going to be all

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Speaker 18: for one, one for all. Let's look, for example, you've

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Speaker 18: got Denmark's Justice minister saying, look, this is just like

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Speaker 18: think of nine to eleven. He's saying, we've got these

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Speaker 18: hybrid attacks happening all the time. This is our new reality.

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Speaker 18: Now you've got Swedish prime ministers saying, look, you know

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Speaker 18: they are probing us. You've just had the Polish Defense

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Speaker 18: minister saying that you've got to remember that a sovereign

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Speaker 18: nation has the right to keep it citizen safe, has

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Speaker 18: to protect its own sovereignty. And you just look at

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Speaker 18: the list of this hybrid warfare that's going on. You've

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Speaker 18: got information attacks, you've got drones, you've got arson attacks,

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Speaker 18: assassinations and of course pushing migrants to Europe from Belarus.

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Speaker 18: So everyone's starting to wake up a bit more than

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Speaker 18: this could be the reality.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when's someone going to blow something out of the

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Speaker 2: sky and seen a proper message as opposed to having

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Speaker 2: a meeting.

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Speaker 18: Well, you know, that's the big thing. This has been

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Speaker 18: what everyone's been saying, and we've been talking about a lot,

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Speaker 18: Mike the last couple of years. No one wants an escalation.

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Speaker 18: No one wants it to get to blowing a drone

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Speaker 18: other sky or blowing a meg out of sky. No

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Speaker 18: one wants that. But the reality is, and this is

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Speaker 18: what the German Defense Minister has been saying, and also

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Speaker 18: the just in the last couple of hours form ahead

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Speaker 18: of the UK Domestic Spy Agency saying we're already at war.

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Speaker 18: It's already happening. Wake up. And you've got countries like Finland,

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Speaker 18: Agan who are very used to having Russia at its doorstep.

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Speaker 18: They're saying, hold up your defenses, you know, set up

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Speaker 18: protocols for what to do. You've also got Ukraine saying, well,

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Speaker 18: we can help you build that if you like that

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Speaker 18: drone wall, but my this will take special radar equipment, censors,

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Speaker 18: and that's what They're going to discuss also over the

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Speaker 18: next couple of days, is why, knowing that Russia was

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Speaker 18: involved in this hybrid warfare for so long, why is

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Speaker 18: Europe taking so long?

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Speaker 2: They're not bad questions, all right, Katherin go well, Catherine

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Speaker 2: Field out of France. This Tuesday morning, it's turned away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 6: The mic Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrower news. Tom's dead by

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Speaker 6: Tony Butter. I don't know if it's Gaul or Genius.

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Speaker 6: He's drummed up a seven hundred million dollar plan. He's

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Speaker 6: going to run Gaza. He gets a war room, he

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Speaker 6: gets some elite bodyguards, he gets a police force to

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Speaker 6: oversee the strip. He's going to be chairman of the

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Speaker 6: Gaza International Transitional Authority, the guitter GIITA. He would rule

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Speaker 6: initially from nearby Elrish in Egypt. There would be policy

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Speaker 6: hubs in Amman and Cairo, scaling up to be fully

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Speaker 6: operational with this by three years. He would lead Gaza's

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Speaker 6: international diplomacy on the world stage. He would coordinate security

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Speaker 6: with Israeli Egypt in the US serve as the escalation

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Speaker 6: point on sensitive decisions. The German commands a strategic secretariat

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Speaker 6: of twenty five ads, anchoring a crisis war room for

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Speaker 6: rapid analysis, coordination, and messaging. He would have a new

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Speaker 6: Executive Protection Unit.

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Speaker 2: The EPOO. The EPO would be politically balanced to reflect neutrality, professionalism,

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Speaker 2: and legitimacy. He would work in conjunction with a Palestinian

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Speaker 2: civil police force, international Stabilization Force, or coordinated through a

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Speaker 2: joint security Coordination Center. Just Witkoff likes it, apparently, as

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Speaker 2: does Kushner. So the new head, I mean, that's all

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Speaker 2: in the you know, but if they like it. It

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Speaker 2: seems to be unfolding at the White House. It looks

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Speaker 2: like Tony Blee is going to be running the Gaza

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Speaker 2: strip possibly by the end of the week five to seven.

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Speaker 1: The inns and the ouse. It's the fiz with business

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Speaker 1: fiber take your business productivity to the next level of.

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Speaker 2: A look at an industriallection in this very fine country

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Speaker 2: of ours.

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Speaker 16: Have we had a lot?

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Speaker 2: Seems like it. Nurses, senior doctors, teachers, the odd priest

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Speaker 2: chained to a door. Maybe that doesn't count. I don't

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Speaker 2: know anyway, the data so far this year we've had

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Speaker 2: twenty two work stoppages, which involves strikes and lockouts involved

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Speaker 2: just over eighteen thousand employees, sixteen thousand, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty two person days have worked lost and an estimate

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Speaker 2: of four point six million and lost wages. That adds

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Speaker 2: to forty seven work stoppages all of last year. So

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Speaker 2: add those together you get to sixty nine for the government.

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Speaker 2: Sixty nine so far for the government. What about under

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Speaker 2: labour through twenty three, Well, there were one hundred and thirteen,

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Speaker 2: so sixty nine verses one thirteen. Twenty three seemed to

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Speaker 2: be the worst. There were thirty six stoppages and twenty

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Speaker 2: three there were seventy thousand people, sixty nine thousand days

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Speaker 2: lost in fourteen point eight million dollars of wages. Back

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Speaker 2: in twenty two we had fifty seven stoppages, seven thousand,

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and twenty two people, but equating to three

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Speaker 2: hundred and two thousand, nine hundred and forty eight. Oh,

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Speaker 2: they're all numbers, so much numbers, numbers, Psycho babble. One

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Speaker 2: of the biggest strikes is coming that. I can tell

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Speaker 2: you this for nothing. They're planning the public service because

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Speaker 2: they're still angsty. Planning is underway for a sort of

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Speaker 2: almost a nationwide strike day for the public sector. October

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Speaker 2: twenty three, market and your calendar could be fun. There's

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Speaker 2: a ballot notice for the New Zealand Nurses Organization titled

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Speaker 2: Ballot for Joint Public Sector Strike. It states that rallies

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Speaker 2: will be held across the country where striking public sector

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Speaker 2: workers will stand shoulder to shoulder. When do we want

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Speaker 2: it now? Call on the government to invest in public services?

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Speaker 2: What a waste of time?

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Speaker 11: That is goodness sake.

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Speaker 2: Go to work and enjoy yourself. And if you don't

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Speaker 2: enjoy your work, quit and go get something you do

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Speaker 2: enjoy goodness sake. The earthquake business yesterday seemed to make

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Speaker 2: perfect sense to me, and I feel so pleased for

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Speaker 2: all the people, particularly in Wellington, but other parts of

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Speaker 2: the country. You're suddenly sitting in an apartment who were

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Speaker 2: told that they needed nineteen million dollars worth of remediation

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Speaker 2: on the place, and they went, guess what, I don't

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Speaker 2: have nineteen million dollars and I can't go borrow it

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Speaker 2: from the bank. The government seems to fix that, Thank

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Speaker 2: the good Lord Chris Pink as well as after the.

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Speaker 2: It is seven past seven. Are just standing by the

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Speaker 2: White House. Well, who knows when they roll in. But

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Speaker 2: this press conference pending and it could well be a

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Speaker 2: big day on the Middle East, so we'll let you

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Speaker 2: know as soon as it happens. Now back home. Common

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Speaker 2: sense arrived yesterday. This in the form of the government's

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Speaker 2: reorganization of the earthquake building rules. Entire cities and regions

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Speaker 2: for goodness sake have been removed, timeframes for remediation have

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Speaker 2: been extended, and a shedloaded though eight billion plus is

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Speaker 2: being saved. Chris Pink is the Building Construction Minister and

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Speaker 2: as we us, good morning, moning Mite. Now you said

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Speaker 2: yesterday I watched your press conference live. You said it

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Speaker 2: was well intentioned and was it really? When you can

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Speaker 2: take something as large as Auckland out of it, how

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Speaker 2: well intentioned is a plan that broad.

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Speaker 19: Well, soonly if you think about the tragedy that was

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Speaker 19: the loss of life and Canterbury earthquakes and a period

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Speaker 19: of time with everyone was wondering what that should be

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Speaker 19: going forward. I think really understandable that they wanted to

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Speaker 19: be risk averse, but The truth is we do still

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Speaker 19: need to maintain life safety to has the system, but

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Speaker 19: there are more nuanced ways we can do that. So

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Speaker 19: that's what we've learned in the intervening your game.

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Speaker 2: How literally have you assessed risk under your new calculation?

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Speaker 19: Well, it's impossible to be precise because obviously earthquakes are

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Speaker 19: difficult to predict one year to another. But we think

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Speaker 19: if we take a risk proportionate approach that asks first

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Speaker 19: of all, where are the parts in New Zealand that

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Speaker 19: it's least likely, And then you refine down to the

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Speaker 19: remaining areas, which is to say, not all closed Northland

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Speaker 19: at Chedham Islands, and then you ask what are the

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Speaker 19: most dangerous types of buildings and it gets to high

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Speaker 19: and construction methods, then you can start to make some

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Speaker 19: sensible changes. I think that hopefully people will regard its balance.

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Speaker 2: What's the whole purpose of this? Is the purpose to

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Speaker 2: save some beautiful old buildings or just to rectify people's

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Speaker 2: lives who have had them shatter because they count afford

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Speaker 2: the build and can't get access to the money to

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Speaker 2: do it. Anyway, Yeah, it's a lot of the latter.

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Speaker 19: The purpose of the earthquake prone building regime. We're really

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Speaker 19: clear it is to preserve life. So if it does that,

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Speaker 19: we keep it. If it doesn't, or we can say,

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Speaker 19: you know, it's a reasonable kind of approach to say

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Speaker 19: that we might be going beyond what's reasonable, then we

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Speaker 19: leave it. And look, that might mean that there are

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Speaker 19: some buildings that are damaged in an earthquake and people

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Speaker 19: simply need to pay for those going forward. Well, they've

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Speaker 19: got insurance options, but that's a different matter from the

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Speaker 19: government saying that people must bring them up to a

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Speaker 19: certain standard by a certain time, and of course the

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Speaker 19: consequence of that is when they can't, the buildings become

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Speaker 19: derelict and fall down.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Chris appreciated. Chris pink is the Building and Construction Minister.

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Speaker 2: Nine minutes past seven's keep your money. Some budget issues

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Speaker 2: at police. They've scrapped crime prevention funds for neighborhood support,

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Speaker 2: community patrols and burglary prevention develops. The books the mover

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Speaker 2: save seven point eight million dollars. So what's going on here.

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Speaker 2: Andrea Conlin is the police Police Chief Operating Officer and

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Speaker 2: as with us, Andrea, good morning, Good morning mate. Thevention

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Speaker 2: programs and their value for money. What's your assessment.

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Speaker 8: So just to kind of clarify, the neighborhood support and

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Speaker 8: community watch programs have their funding is continuing. So the

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Speaker 8: funding and the other the burglary prevention areas for around

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Speaker 8: the seven million per annum is the area that has

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Speaker 8: been seized. This is you know, as part of kind

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Speaker 8: of the border reinvestment. We receive a lot of funding

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Speaker 8: through from government and part of that is seeking those

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Speaker 8: areas where we can find savings to reinvest into that

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Speaker 8: new funding. And this was the one area for budget

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Speaker 8: twenty five where the funding was we reinvested into the frontline.

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Speaker 2: Accept what exactly is burglary prevention other than I mean

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Speaker 2: what did you do? Did you get a pamphlet, did

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Speaker 2: you have some people telling people not the burgle or

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Speaker 2: how did it work?

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Speaker 19: Sure?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, So these were sort of a specific small initiatives

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Speaker 8: that were run in some areas around the country. So

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Speaker 8: there were a smaller initiative in Palmerston North. There was

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Speaker 8: also a lot of light Lines of Sight was the

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Speaker 8: name of the initiative run in some other areas around

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Speaker 8: the country. So I guess see the areas in one

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Speaker 8: of these programs had actually already ceased as were identified

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Speaker 8: through the budget process. So they're kind of small initiatives. Overall,

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Speaker 8: as we've said, prevention is the key aspect of our

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Speaker 8: overall policing and a key aspect of all roles across

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Speaker 8: the organization. So this isn't about sort of overall reducing

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Speaker 8: our effort or our focus into prevention. It was around

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Speaker 8: these specific initiatives being identified as options for taking that

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Speaker 8: money and reinvesting it the other areas of funding we

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Speaker 8: did receive.

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Speaker 2: So seven point eight million, I mean, I know it's

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Speaker 2: a lot of money for you and I but I

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Speaker 2: mean for the police budget, it sounds like money you

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Speaker 2: found in the back of the couch. I mean, these

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Speaker 2: are small programs.

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Speaker 8: Yes they were, Yes, and you're right, I mean seven

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Speaker 8: million in the context of you know where we're sort

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Speaker 8: of around the five hundred million marks for our total

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Speaker 8: budget twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five Okay, So just for clarification, because we might have

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Speaker 2: got this wrong. Neighborhood support, continuous community patrols continue. It's

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Speaker 2: the burglary prevention that's been cut.

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Speaker 8: Yes, correct, Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, appreciate it. Andrea, who got that wrong? Let's name

741
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Speaker 2: let's name some names here, Hey, who got that wrong?

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Speaker 2: I'm in an efficiency and professionalism drive at the moment,

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Speaker 2: thirteen minutes past seven pasking two hundred and twenty six

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars four hundred thousand miles COP twenty nine. Now,

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Speaker 2: I know you're excited about COP thirty coming up in

746
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Speaker 2: the mouth of the Amazon, but COP twenty nine, who

747
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Speaker 2: can forget in Baku as Abaujan. The only reason I

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Speaker 2: know where Baraku is it's where the F one was

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Speaker 2: the other weekend. Apart from that, it certainly didn't know

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Speaker 2: where COP twenty nine was. Taxpayer Union's got the money.

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Speaker 2: They're doing the good work for US Ministry of Foreign

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Speaker 2: Affairs and Trade, the Ministry of Primary Industries, Ministry, or

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Speaker 2: the environments at thirteen staff because of course you need

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Speaker 2: thirteen likely thirteen for the travel accommodation of meals, business

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Speaker 2: class flights. Is that fair enough? Seventeen thousand, three hundred

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Speaker 2: per person. I did the mass for you, seventeen thousand,

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Speaker 2: three hundred dollars per person. What did we get out

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Speaker 2: of it? That's the question is now, I don't mind

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Speaker 2: spending seventeen thousand, three hundred dollars per person if they

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Speaker 2: come back and go I tell you what happened here

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Speaker 2: abcdn E. There's the report, there are the gains, there

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Speaker 2: at the savings, and there's how the world is a

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Speaker 2: better place. Can we say any of that? I don't

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Speaker 2: think we can.

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Speaker 11: Thirteen past.

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Speaker 2: Good text time. Mike, what about the people have already

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Speaker 2: paid to and completed the earthquake upgrades? They get a refundell?

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Speaker 2: The answer is no, Rob, obviously, but it's a very

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Speaker 2: good point you make. It's like when you go to

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Speaker 2: Harvey Norman for the Rebel coffee machine, your pay six

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars, and then on the weekend it's for sale

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Speaker 2: for three ninety nine. You get the difference. Now you don't.

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Speaker 2: That's life. I'm afraid. Seventeen past seven annual insight into

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Speaker 2: our beloved wine industry? Where are we at? Tariffs? Have

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Speaker 2: seen US exports four three percent, so we do seven

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty two million dollars worth of business with them.

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Speaker 2: Emerging market good news China forty seven is China on

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Speaker 2: emerging market? They say China's up forty seven percent. South

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Speaker 2: Korea is up ninety two, Around ninety percent of all

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Speaker 2: our wine still heads offshore. Philip Grigan is of course

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Speaker 2: the one gros ceo and as well as Philip, morning.

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Speaker 16: To you, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Is China emerging? I would have thought it's emerged.

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Speaker 16: While from a wine perspective, it's still in the emerging stage.

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Speaker 16: From a New Zealand wine perspective, certainly, we've been active

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Speaker 16: in that market for about ten years and we're really

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Speaker 16: just starting to see some very very positive signs over

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Speaker 16: the last twelve to eighty months about consumer uptape of

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Speaker 16: our wines, which is very pleasing.

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Speaker 2: Good that South Korean number, I take it. It's off

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Speaker 2: a low base.

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Speaker 16: Yes, it's gone from about twenty odd million up to

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Speaker 16: just under fifty million this year. It's a very similar

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Speaker 16: story to China, but again consumer driven love our fresh

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Speaker 16: wine styles really resonating with consumers.

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Speaker 2: Reading the report. It's talking about varietals and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Is it more than save blanc?

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Speaker 16: It is that seventy on blancs the huge part of

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Speaker 16: what we do offshore. It's the wine that we're known for.

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Speaker 16: But pino noir, pino gree that are doing well, Chardonay,

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Speaker 16: so those other varieties are very important in telling a

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Speaker 16: story about what New Zealand, the New Zealand wine industry

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Speaker 16: can do, and it resonates with concerners.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk headwinds, economies, do they play a part? And

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Speaker 2: what about health? In other words, people waking up and

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Speaker 2: we don't want to drink as much anymore.

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Speaker 16: Well, we're certainly seeing change the change in demographics in

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Speaker 16: countries such as US, UK, Australia and New Zealand. Baby

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Speaker 16: boomers not drinking as much as they were. The flip

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Speaker 16: side of the coin, there are plenty of opportunities for

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Speaker 16: those newer markets which we've talked about China and South Korea.

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Speaker 16: But the change in drinking behaviors we have to in

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Speaker 16: places such as New Zealand. We've got to see us

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Speaker 16: an opportunity as well to reach out to consumers in

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Speaker 16: different ways and so that you know they continue to

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Speaker 16: be excited about New Zealand wine.

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Speaker 2: Weird peak grape. I looked at the twenty five Vintage

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Speaker 2: Lovely Lovely season, all of that sort of stuff, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of fruit was left behind and I'm just

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Speaker 2: wondering if we're growing more than we can sell.

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Speaker 16: We've got a surplace at the moment, but that was

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Speaker 16: really because the twenty five vintage was absolutely exceptional Bounties.

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Speaker 16: It was a huge crop. We could never have harvested

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Speaker 16: all the grapes that were out there, so it was

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Speaker 16: unsurprising that grapes were left behind on the vine this year.

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Speaker 16: But no, I don't think we're peak grape. There are

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Speaker 16: lots of market opportunities out there for our industry, and

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Speaker 16: once we get through this current supply demand situation we've

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Speaker 16: got at the moment, we will see vignyard's been planted

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Speaker 16: again and expansion in the vineyard area.

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Speaker 2: I love to hear it, Philip go well, Philip Grigan,

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Speaker 2: who's the new z in A one gross CEO. Mike,

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Speaker 2: you're out of touch with regards on happy health workers.

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Speaker 2: We work right through the pandemic. While the rest of

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Speaker 2: the government had a two year paid work from home holiday.

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Speaker 2: We work extra hours every day that aren't recognized or

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Speaker 2: paid for. We're fed up, Lisa. I'm not out of touch.

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Speaker 2: I get it. I would argue this going on strike

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Speaker 2: achieves nothing and I'd rather be at work than beyond

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Speaker 2: strike two in terms of healthcare. As far as I

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Speaker 2: It's just the plight of public health unfortunately, and you're

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Speaker 2: go to one net dot co dot Nz. You'll get

870
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Speaker 2: a complementary consultation to assess how your business can win

871
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Speaker 2: more RFPs with Grizzly AI. So one netplus Grizzly AI,

872
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Speaker 2: it is a powerful team for increasing your profitability. Pasking

873
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: details on what they're about to announce at the White

874
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: House in just a couple of moment sevent twenty four

875
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: in a move you could have seen coming from the

876
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: moment it was first announced, really, or if you couldn't

877
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: see it coming, you you were hoping it would come.

878
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: Auckland University has decided it's why Papa Tamatarrah course will

879
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: now be optional instead of compulsory. So for a generation

880
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: who've been appallingly let down over the COVID period by

881
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: the government and education decisions, the Auckland University desire to

882
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: force you into MARI courses seem not just ill advised

883
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: but cruel. Kids of the past half dozen years have

884
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 2: been soaked to the point of drowning in Mari issues

885
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: and doctrine in their schooling, and they are, I can

886
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 2: tell you sick of it. The Labour government's obsession with

887
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 2: race has had the opposite effect intended. It didn't caj

888
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: and encourage, It rammed and forced and overwhelmed us with condescending,

889
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: over lord type instruction. University is not about being told

890
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: what to learn. It was supposed to be the opposite,

891
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: and from our personal experience this year, it to appear

892
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: to us that the course was not even well run.

893
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: It was ill conceived, shonckly run by people barely qualified

894
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: to deliver a curriculum that seemed largely made up with

895
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: no real focus or discipline. Students hated it, They resented it.

896
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: They were dragged, kicking and screaming through it. Not just that,

897
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: but to add insult to injury, you had to pay

898
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: for it. They forced you into it, then sent you

899
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: a bill. As in all these areas of race, the

900
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: trick has always been that if you seek it, if

901
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: you want it, if you desire it, whether broader study

902
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: or specific language skills, it's freely available, fill your boots.

903
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: But the determination to square Peggott only ever led to

904
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: pushback and resent. The last thing I would have thought

905
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 2: universities wanted to do was put people off study. Once again,

906
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: from personal experience, we know people who not only avoided

907
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: Auckland University, but in fact it ended up studying offshore.

908
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: And none of this is a desirable outcome for the

909
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: country upside. When asked by the university, the feedback was

910
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 2: as you would have expected, and to their credit, I

911
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: guess they've at least read the room and backed off,

912
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: but not before another year, for thousands have been lost

913
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: in a whirlpool of woke enforced nonsense that never had

914
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: to be pascilido. What we have got Trump and Blair

915
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: will head the Gaza transitional government, so not only Blair's

916
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: in charge of but Trump's in charge of it. Twenty

917
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: point planned very similar to the twenty one point plan

918
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: that was released earlier on today Gaza becomes a deradicalized

919
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: terrorary zone. Now here's the key to all of this.

920
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: That's all fine. We don't know who's agreed to this,

921
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: of anyone, I mean obviously Netanya who has and I'm

922
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 2: assuming Katar has because Katar got wrung and they said

923
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: thank you for the apology. We accept it from Netanyahu

924
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: for bombing them the other day, and we don't know

925
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: whether it will be implemented. I mean what a Hamas

926
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: say about this. Gaza will be placed under the control

927
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: of a transitional government headed by Trump. So Trump's power

928
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: is an influence is expanding exponentially. Include seventy two hours

929
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 2: of Israel accepting the agreement, all hostages to be returned

930
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: dead in the life. In return, Palestinian prisoners held in

931
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: Israel will also be released. Then the White House says

932
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: her mass fighters will commit to peaceful coexistence and with

933
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: them being able to leave Gaza under safe passage if

934
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 2: they want so. The criticalst so that all that's about

935
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 2: to be announced. The critical part is does hum asked

936
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: buy into it? So history potentially is unfolding in front

937
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: of our eyes more shortly than news is next.

938
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast with

939
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: range Rover leading by example, news togs head.

940
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: Be well, it's unfolding, and the White House says, we speak,

941
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: do we have a deal? Make your own mind up.

942
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 20: It means the immediate end to the war itself, not

943
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 20: just Gaza, it's the war itself under the Plan Arab

944
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 20: and Muslim countries have committed than in rating in many cases,

945
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 20: but actually would.

946
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: Take their word for it.

947
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 20: The people I mentioned that take their word for it

948
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 20: to demilitarize Gaza and that's quickly decommission the military capabilities

949
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 20: of HAMAS and all other terror organizations do that immediately.

950
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 20: And we're relying on the countries that I named and

951
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 20: others to deal with HAMAS. And I'm hearing that HAMAS

952
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 20: wants to get this done too, and that's a good thing.

953
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: It continues and will summarize it shortly. I don't know

954
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: that dealing with the mass and they promise and will

955
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: take their word for it is the end of the war.

956
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: But let's see how fast twenty two minutes away from

957
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: our health check on our health sector back home this

958
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 2: with q two April through June, cancer pations starting treatment

959
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: within thirty one days. That's up two point eight percent.

960
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: Good emergency department wait times are better seventy three point

961
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: nine percent within six hours. That's top from seventy one

962
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: point two percent. Children fully immunized by up to eighty

963
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: two percent from seventy six point five, Simon Brown's Health minister,

964
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: and is wea us good morning, good morning mate? How

965
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: much are we messing with numbers here? Something's gone from

966
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: seventy two point or seventy one point two to seventy

967
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: three point nine. They're just numbers, aren't they. You can

968
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: message numbers to your blue in the face now.

969
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 21: These are the health five health targets the government has set.

970
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 21: These are recorded and then validated to show the changes

971
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 21: over time. And what we're seeing here is over the

972
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 21: last twelve months we're seeing improvement against our health targets.

973
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 21: People waiting less time for elective surgeries, less time for

974
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 21: our first specialist appointments, Immunization rates are going up and

975
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 21: people being seen faster in emergency departments. So we are

976
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 21: seeing improvement against our health takes, which is a good thing,

977
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 21: but we also acknowledge it's a long way to go

978
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 21: to make sure that all New Zealanders are getting that

979
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 21: access to timely, quality healthcare that they need and deserve.

980
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: There are averages because counties Maneicau and Auckland have gone

981
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: backwards in ed for example. Is that population is it

982
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: efficiency as a result?

983
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 22: What is it all.

984
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 21: Look, there wll be a number of factors. If you

985
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 21: look at the emergency department, one, there has been a

986
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 21: significant increase in the number of presentations, so a number

987
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 21: of people turning up to emergency departments. So clearly that

988
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 21: has an impact on the efficiency of those hospitals and

989
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 21: their emergency departments. We just last week announced some more

990
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 21: resource going into emergency departments because we acknowledge there's a

991
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 21: huge amount of pressure in those areas. On average, across

992
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 21: the country we are seeing improvement, but yes, there are

993
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 21: some districts which need additional investment and that's what we're doing.

994
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: The shorter wait times. An elective is it as simple

995
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: as saying, go for cataracts, here's some money, do it.

996
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 21: Well, it's a range of different different surgeries that are needed,

997
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 21: and so that's where our elective boost has played a

998
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 21: big part. That's been cataracts a big part of it.

999
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 21: That is a big part of the waitlist, but also

1000
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 21: hip operations, the operations, earlier operations, the whole range of

1001
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 21: different procedures that we've been working to deliver and reduce

1002
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 21: those weight times. And so it's a range of procedures

1003
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 21: and the good news is we're seeing fewer people waiting

1004
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 21: and we're seeing the wait times reduced, so that's a

1005
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 21: good thing, and that target we've seen improvements in every

1006
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 21: single district across the country, so right across the country.

1007
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 21: Some districts very significant increases other districts, but every district

1008
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 21: has had an improvement, which I think is good news,

1009
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 21: particularly for those people who are waiting in pain. That

1010
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 21: makes a real difference to their lives.

1011
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 2: The Canton newses that purely pharmic money and pills.

1012
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 21: Well, it's more around making sure that people, once they've

1013
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 21: been diagnosed, are getting their treatment in a timely fashion.

1014
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 21: For the most people that's actually a surgery. For some

1015
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 21: it's radiation therapy or chemotherapy, others it's other medicines. So

1016
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 21: those medicines certainly assist, but it's about making sure that

1017
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 21: there's a time the time between DIA diagnoses and being

1018
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 21: treated is as less than thirty one days. That's the

1019
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 21: target that we're seeking to achieve. Thankfully, that's one of

1020
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 21: the targets which didn't really go backwards under the last government.

1021
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 21: The other four did. That one actually stayed relatively stable,

1022
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 21: which is good news. Those new thirty three cancer medicines

1023
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 21: obviously provide more cancer treatments for more New Zealanders, which

1024
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 21: is encouraging.

1025
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: That immunization number seems material seven points seventy six point

1026
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 2: five to eighty two percent, and that goes against us

1027
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: reading something in the States the other day they got

1028
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: real issue about the tin hatters and the weirdo's and

1029
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: the COVID and all that sort of stuff, and immunization

1030
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: in general is going down. Why are we bucking the trend?

1031
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 21: Well, there's a huge amount of work going into improving

1032
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,959
Speaker 21: those immunization rates, where we're investing more money in immunizations.

1033
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 21: We're working with primary care in particular, who play a

1034
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 21: critically important role. I don't think we have some of

1035
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 21: those same challenges that you might see over in the

1036
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 21: States in terms of what we see here. There are

1037
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 21: certainly some districts which need to have more emphasis put

1038
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 21: in them to improve that rate even further. But by

1039
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 21: and large, you know what we saw in in the

1040
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 21: last six years, it went from around ninety percent of

1041
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 21: two year olds being immunized down to under eighty percent.

1042
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 21: That has had the single biggest provement in the last

1043
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 21: twelve months of any of the health targets going from

1044
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 21: seventy six point five percent to eighty two percent. Further

1045
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 21: work to do, and there's a lot of emphasis across

1046
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 21: a range of whether it's providers or primary care to

1047
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 21: keep that improvement going.

1048
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: All right, appreciate your time. Siman Brown, the Health Minister,

1049
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 2: whether it's this morning. The other numbers out from our

1050
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 2: health department or not the health department, but the health

1051
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: sector this morning is Southern Cross twenty four insurance companies

1052
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: in this country. There are actually eighty four licensed insurers,

1053
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: but they coalesce under twenty four different names, so there's

1054
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: a lot of insurers in this country. The biggest one

1055
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: is Southern Cross. Southern Cross alone handed out three point

1056
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: eight million claims or paid out three point eight million

1057
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: claims in the last year, which is up sixteen percent.

1058
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: It paid out one point seven billion dollars, got nine

1059
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one thousand, eight hundred and eight members,

1060
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: which is down three thousand, point ninety three. So the

1061
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: good news about that, although insurance is getting more expensive

1062
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: and we've had a cost of living crisis, there are

1063
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 2: still most of us, in some way, shape or form,

1064
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 2: are medically insured. Business Return ninety four cents in claims

1065
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: for every dollar paid and premiums. The ratio rises the

1066
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: longer you've been a member. It's they're under this two

1067
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 2: and a half thousand providers nationally. Here's my question for you,

1068
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 2: and I thought about Yester. I had a family member

1069
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: with a small procedure yesterday and it was that classic

1070
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: example where the insurance cover didn't quite cover the actual

1071
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 2: cost of the operation. So, in other words, it was

1072
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: a couple of thousand dollars. Insurance have paid fifteen hundred dollars,

1073
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: you pay five hundred dollars different something like that. Do

1074
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: the people who perform the operations take the money from

1075
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: the company and go, oh, I see you're paying fifteen

1076
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 2: hundred dollars?

1077
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 7: Are you?

1078
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: So we'll make it? What will we make our procedure?

1079
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 2: I know we'll make it eighteen hundred and fifty. Or

1080
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: do they say it's eighteen hundred and fifty and then

1081
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: Southern Cross come along ago we're only paying fifteen hundred.

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Speaker 2: How does that work? Another question for you, just how

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Speaker 2: long can this go on for when they're paying out

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Speaker 2: One single company is paying out three point eight million claims,

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Speaker 2: which is up sixteen percent. If things are going up

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Speaker 2: sixteen percent a year. How long before there are so

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Speaker 2: many millions of claims? Are many more millions than there

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Speaker 2: are actually the population? In other words, every single person

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Speaker 2: in this country is claiming on medical insurance every single year.

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Speaker 2: And how long can that remain affordable? Sixteen two.

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Speaker 1: The vic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: It'd be well, the Southern Cross, My premiums might go

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Speaker 2: up every year, but the insurance company of the coverage

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Speaker 2: doesn't change. How does that work?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 2: It works because that's business. The cost of doing business

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Speaker 2: goes up every year, and you either pay it or

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Speaker 2: you don't. Somebody else ca asks how many people are

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Speaker 2: covered by insurance in this country or Southern Cross health

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Speaker 2: insurance in this country. I gave you the number of

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Speaker 2: a moment ago. It's gone down slightly four hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety three annually, so currently covered nine hundred and fifty one,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and eight. Tony Blair is a good man.

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Speaker 2: According to Donald Trump, He's part of it. There are

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Speaker 2: other names going to This is growing by the minute.

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be called the Board of Peace,

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Speaker 2: this transitional body, the Board of Peace. Trump's on it,

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Speaker 2: Tony Blair. We're going to put leaders from other countries

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Speaker 2: on and leaders that are very distinguished. Leaders will have

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Speaker 2: a board, and one of the people that wants to

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Speaker 2: be on the board is the UK former Prome Minise

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Speaker 2: to Tony Blair, good Man, very good Man, and some others.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I'm quoting him here now. As regards the recognition

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Speaker 2: of the Palestinian State, several.

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Speaker 20: Countries have foolish you recognized the Palestinian state. As you know,

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Speaker 20: some of our European friends, allies, good people, but they're

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Speaker 20: really I think doing that because they're very tired of

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Speaker 20: what's going on for so many decades.

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Speaker 2: So we might be on the right side of this

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Speaker 2: after all. Ironically, the Abraham Accords, or is it the

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Speaker 2: Abrahama Courts.

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Speaker 20: No president in history has been a greater friend of

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Speaker 20: the State of Israel than I have. In addition to

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Speaker 20: negotiating the Abraham Accords. I like to say that way

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Speaker 20: because the real people that where they call Abraham, I

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Speaker 20: would say Abraham, but in so much Nasa when you

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Speaker 20: say Abraham, so much more elegant. But the Abraham Accords

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Speaker 20: are amazing.

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Speaker 2: You can't keep it serious for a minute. Kenny.

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Speaker 16: So what we have.

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Speaker 2: By the way, nittnya, who's not said a word. I've

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Speaker 2: got a book running. I said to Sam, I said,

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Speaker 2: let's do odds. Does he get to say anything before

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock this morning in New Zealand Times. Sam thinks

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Speaker 2: he's going to get him by five too. I think

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Speaker 2: Sam's going to be wrong. Seventy two hours of Israel

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Speaker 2: accepting the agreement, all the hostages will be returned, dead

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Speaker 2: or alive. Palestinian prisoners held in Israel will be released.

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Speaker 2: Human Hamas fighters will commit to peaceful coexistence. Now this

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Speaker 2: is where this thing gets a bit sticky in my

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Speaker 2: humble opinion. He's suggesting there's a whole bunch of countries,

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Speaker 2: including Middle Eastern countries, that will handle Hamas, including I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming Katar given Hamas's based guitar. So how they're handling

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Speaker 2: her mass and her Mass is suddenly going to put

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Speaker 2: down their weaponry and never have anything to do with

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Speaker 2: the new organization, I don't know. And he hasn't explained it.

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Speaker 2: Has he We don't have that detail yet, which some

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Speaker 2: people they've said that you know, they'll try and make it,

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Speaker 2: and he's taken their word so that that, to my

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Speaker 2: ear and eye so far is the critic, the critical

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Speaker 2: part that's missing beyond other than it'll work out okay.

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Speaker 2: So until we get both sides saying yes please, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what we've actually got nine minutes away from.

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Speaker 1: It the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News

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Speaker 1: talks then be it's.

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Speaker 2: Away from it. How about the New Zealand side in

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Speaker 2: the Australia Big Bash Cricket We've commissioned advice apparently as

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Speaker 2: Cricket Australia thinks about expansion in that particular competition, our

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Speaker 2: Super Smash Small in comparison, runs at a significant loss.

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Speaker 2: Scott Winnick as the New Zealand Cricket CEO and as

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Speaker 2: with a Scott morning to you, Mike, what chance this happens?

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Speaker 22: We've been in talks of Cricket Australia for around about

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Speaker 22: twelve months about the potential of putting a men's and

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Speaker 22: women's team in the Big Bash. That's that's really just

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Speaker 22: one of a few options we have when looking at

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Speaker 22: our T twenty format in New Zealand. They keen, they

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Speaker 22: are keen, and the advice they received from BCG was

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Speaker 22: that that was the right thing to do. However, they

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Speaker 22: of course have have states that they need to convince

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Speaker 22: that it's the right thing. So I think they're going

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Speaker 22: through that process at the moment. But also, you know,

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Speaker 22: we'll need to you know, we'll need to see what

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Speaker 22: terms are and we'll also need to convince our major

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Speaker 22: associations and the players and the Players Association that it's.

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Speaker 16: The right thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Would this be done to exclude super Smash? Would Supersmash continue.

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Speaker 7: This?

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Speaker 22: I mean, this is not mutually exclusive from a privatization

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Speaker 22: of super Smash. It would be mutually exclusive if we

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Speaker 22: were to do anything else, such as another form of privatization,

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Speaker 22: but Super Smash would certainly continue in some form if

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Speaker 22: we were to put teams in the Big Bash, because

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Speaker 22: it's important to have a very very strong domestic competition

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Speaker 22: in New Zealand as well.

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Speaker 2: Is the Big Basher Hit. I mean, do you look

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Speaker 2: at that and does it all add up as a

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Speaker 2: business proposition? You go, jeez, I've got to got to

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Speaker 2: get a slice of that.

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Speaker 22: It's a very very powerful leave from a high performance perspective,

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Speaker 22: and certainly the second best after the i PL The

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Speaker 22: work that BCG had done with Cricket Australia is to

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Speaker 22: look how they really you know, build the Big Bash

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Speaker 22: into a very lucrative commercial model as well, and so

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Speaker 22: we would only be putting a team in the Big

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Speaker 22: Bash if it made sense commercially as well. There's something

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Speaker 22: to like about joining up Cricket Australia of course as well.

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Speaker 22: You know, we want to see cricket in Australasia as

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Speaker 22: a cricketing powerhouse, and so by joining ourselves Cricket Australia,

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Speaker 22: there's a lot to like about that as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, timeline.

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Speaker 22: The I think probably twenty twenty eight has been Cricket

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Speaker 22: Australia is potentially looking at it, but as I say,

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Speaker 22: I have to emphsize that they still need to get

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Speaker 22: their stakeholders across the line and we'd need to get

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Speaker 22: our stakeholders across the line when considering that against against

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Speaker 22: some other good options.

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Speaker 11: That we have.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we'll stay in touch. Appreciated very much. Scott Winneck,

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Speaker 2: who's the New Zealand Cricket CEO. Sammy's arguing over the

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Speaker 2: terms of the bet NETNYA who's just started speaking. You

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Speaker 2: miss by a minute and a half according to me,

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Speaker 2: but Sammy says, I'm a flock but don't you won't

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Speaker 2: Is seven past eight now. If you're watching The Voice Australia,

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Speaker 2: you'll be following Cassie Henderson. Of course, she first head

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Speaker 2: television way back in The X Factor. This is eleveny

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Speaker 2: years ago debu single was twenty twenty. Then in twenty

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Speaker 2: three she quit the day job and decided music full

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Speaker 2: time was the way to go. Anyway, she is brought

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Speaker 2: the guitar and she's with us. Cassie Henderson joins.

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Speaker 23: This morning, good morning, thank you for having.

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Speaker 2: Me, not at all great pleasure. So we know you

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Speaker 2: currently on the X Factor. I don't want to dwell

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Speaker 2: on that on the voice rather than the expected, but

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Speaker 2: the voice is that completed and sorted, and can you

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Speaker 2: reveal something gripping as to as to what happened.

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Speaker 3: I can't reveal too much. I can't talk about any

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Speaker 3: honey ed stuff. But we've just finished the Battles round

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Speaker 3: and I got through that, which means I'm onto the

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Speaker 3: next week's episode, which I'm very excited about. It's been

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Speaker 3: really cool to be able to watch the show with

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Speaker 3: my family and friends as if it was the first

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Speaker 3: time happening, even though I know what's coming.

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Speaker 2: But what was the contrast to the expector?

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Speaker 3: I think, to be honest, for me, it felt very

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Speaker 3: similar because I just like being on stage and it

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Speaker 3: was just that again. But I now tackle things like

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Speaker 3: this with a lot more, a lot more growth. Like,

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Speaker 3: I have worked at this my craft for a really

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Speaker 3: really long time. So when I step onto a stage,

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Speaker 3: that's after months and months of practicing. Is when I

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Speaker 3: was fourteen, it was probably after a couple weeks of

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Speaker 3: practicing the song.

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Speaker 2: So as an experience, if you were looking for growth

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Speaker 2: and advice and you know, whatever, does that give it

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Speaker 2: to you?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it does.

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Speaker 3: To be honest, like I it is, you were diving

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Speaker 3: into the deepest end of the poll. When you step

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Speaker 3: onto a stage like that, there's a huge amount of pressure. Sure,

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Speaker 3: these cameras, there's all sorts of people telling you to

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Speaker 3: do all sorts of things. So if you can manage

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Speaker 3: the nerves and manage the adrenaline, then you know that

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Speaker 3: you can probably take on most things.

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Speaker 2: So what's it about for you? Is it about just

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Speaker 2: sheer exposure? I think.

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Speaker 3: I think TV for me kind of feels like the handshake, right,

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Speaker 3: It's what happens before you get into the relationship and

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Speaker 3: bring people into my world of music, which is super

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Speaker 3: super important. But it was also just the biggest mountain

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Speaker 3: I could climb. It was the biggest opportunity for me

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Speaker 3: to grow and rise up and test myself.

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Speaker 2: Really, so how many people are out there, I mean

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Speaker 2: that want to do what you are. I mean the are.

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Speaker 23: Thousands, thousands, right, thousands.

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Speaker 3: And I get messages a lot from young people in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand saying that I inspire them, which is always

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Speaker 3: a huge dream. But it's almost a little bit bittersweet

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Speaker 3: because I know how long I've been working at this

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Speaker 3: and I know how long I haven't had success for

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Speaker 3: and it's difficult. It's a really tough road. It's a

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Speaker 3: really tough gig. But it's always been my passion and

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Speaker 3: it's what I love most in the world.

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Speaker 2: So it's no question because between the expector and the voice,

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Speaker 2: you've stepped away from music. Yes, why was that valuable

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Speaker 2: and do you have any regrets around that or was

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Speaker 2: that a learning experience?

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Speaker 3: It's hard to have regrets on that because of where

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Speaker 3: I am right now. It was valuable in that I

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Speaker 3: got to live my life for four years. I got

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Speaker 3: to go to university, I got to have relationships and

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Speaker 3: do really normal kid staff. But I think as an

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Speaker 3: artist there's always time pressure on your age and old

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Speaker 3: you can be and be a pop star. So I

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Speaker 3: have moments where I'm like, I wish I wish I

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Speaker 3: got into this earlier, but I wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 3: write the songs I write today if I hadn't had that.

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Speaker 2: So so you're better now than you were. Obviously an

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Speaker 2: age just help with that, but experience, I assume also

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Speaker 2: also helps with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just taking it seriously, you know, like I

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Speaker 3: think when you're fourteen, you kind of you kind of

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Speaker 3: take everything on the nose and run with it, whereas

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Speaker 3: now I this is my job, you know, like this

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Speaker 3: is my passion and my love, but it's also my

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Speaker 3: job and it's much more than being on a stage

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Speaker 3: and writing songs. It's a business as well, and that's

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Speaker 3: always been, you know, not my favorite part of it, but.

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Speaker 2: Well, it pays the bills. At the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: You've had a lot of radio exposure that your songs

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Speaker 2: have been played a lot on radio. Does that pay

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Speaker 2: the bills?

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Speaker 11: Is radio?

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Speaker 2: The key is streaming, the key is performing live in

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Speaker 2: front of a festival, the key?

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Speaker 3: I think it's everything, and if you're not doing everything,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty hard to make a living off of this career.

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Speaker 3: Radio has been amazing and it's like in terms of

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Speaker 3: exposure around New Zealand, it's been amazing as well. But

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Speaker 3: I think you kind of have to spin all the

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Speaker 3: plates at the same time to get to where you

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Speaker 3: want to go and be really aligned in that growth.

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Speaker 2: So what's the magic do you think? Out of the business?

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Speaker 2: The voice is a good example. So I saw your

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Speaker 2: battle with Jimmy. Now both of you seem to me

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Speaker 2: really good, thank you, But well, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, what does the talent

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Speaker 2: naturally rise to the top or is there an element

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Speaker 2: of crap shoot slash luck in that.

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Speaker 3: I think I have this theory about luck that you

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Speaker 3: can be the best singer in the room or the

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Speaker 3: best songwriter in the room, and if you don't have luck,

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Speaker 3: you're probably not going to rise to the top. Some

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Speaker 3: that's just I personally think the way the world works,

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Speaker 3: which is really unfortunate because then you get some incredible

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Speaker 3: singers and songwriters that we will never hear in the

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Speaker 3: public eye. So I'm really grateful because I have been

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Speaker 3: really lucky. But I do think you can't get luck

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Speaker 3: if you're not working hard out the other end. So

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Speaker 3: Jimma was a wonderful case because she is a brilliant

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Speaker 3: song songwriter and singer, and during that week we worked

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Speaker 3: our butts off and you could see that in her

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Speaker 3: as a nineteen and with.

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Speaker 2: Some camaraderie or we hate each other.

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Speaker 3: Massively, we're best mates. It was actually really really sweet.

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Speaker 3: At the end of that show, the end of the

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Speaker 3: song you can see us just laughing at each other because.

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Speaker 2: We like, what the heck? Okay? So where's the music?

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Speaker 19: Hat?

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Speaker 2: What are we dropping? When's it dropping? How's it dropping?

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Speaker 2: What color? What color are we up to?

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Speaker 3: Yep, so we've done pink and yellow so far. The

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Speaker 3: next EP is called the Blue Chapter, which is really exciting,

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Speaker 3: and there's a couple surprises sprinkled in there in the

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Speaker 3: middle as well. But still working on finalizing the Blue.

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Speaker 2: Chapter at the moment.

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Speaker 3: And obviously the voice is my priority right now, and

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Speaker 3: so you'll see more music from me very soon.

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Speaker 2: You brought your guitar in, I did, and a spare guitar. Yes,

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Speaker 2: and it's not me playing. You brought it. I told

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Speaker 2: you word, Yeah, you've brought a person in with you.

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Speaker 2: So after the break, what what are we going to play?

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Speaker 3: We're going to be playing one of my favorite songs

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Speaker 3: of my own, called Admit to That More.

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Speaker 2: From Cassie Henderson shortly the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks It Be news Talks It b Are. Cassie Henderson's

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Speaker 2: with us along with Alex who joins us on the

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Speaker 2: guitar and your your little Martin guitar. You're because we'll

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Speaker 2: video this and people will see how little Martin. Now

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Speaker 2: what concerns me initially as you two have never done this,

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Speaker 2: what you're about to do? So as we as we entered,

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Speaker 2: the level of confidence is high.

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Speaker 23: Yes, good faith and belief.

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Speaker 2: That's really your need, faith and belief.

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Speaker 23: All right, hit it, hit it, a fine comforting lot.

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Speaker 24: Seeking shell toward the bar, sweet companionship to unres on

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Speaker 24: the mark with drinking the dark. I hear voices in

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Speaker 24: the silence, follow slowly striped bar sereal for convenience.

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Speaker 4: They know, they know, they know.

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Speaker 23: Falling apart. I know, I know, I know, fall part.

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Speaker 25: Like Comma sciences on my death bed, searching for some

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Speaker 25: sort of your can't find a comic call that rids

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Speaker 25: made of nothing yours.

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Speaker 23: Just like go to room main Holts stumbling around and

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Speaker 23: aunts and you.

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Speaker 4: Looking for apvident.

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Speaker 23: Understanding and you wont t a s past and present tense.

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Speaker 24: What's the hiding in the pauses of your right.

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Speaker 25: Like comic sciences, don't mind that bed searching.

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Speaker 4: For some ut off cat can't find your can't.

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Speaker 23: Make that fraids me not being yours.

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Speaker 4: No I meds to that alimt.

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Speaker 25: To that swaiting on my salvation he will the speed

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Speaker 25: of floor.

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Speaker 4: Can't shame to find a vein saves me for nothing.

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Speaker 2: You me you, I no, no.

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Speaker 15: I I.

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Speaker 26: Time Jacky sad it strangely dry joy short otay, don't

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Speaker 26: pay no exactly talk to short o.

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Speaker 4: Day you watch me cracker you right.

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Speaker 23: Will stay you listen by Jacky.

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Speaker 26: Shame right down it mykeay good to say good love.

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Speaker 4: Me, I love you anyway, I love you anyway, I

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Speaker 4: love you anyway.

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Speaker 2: Well for people who have not done that before, that's

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Speaker 2: really good. So let's just do it one more time.

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Speaker 2: Just joking. Love lovely, so much lovely to see you.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming and we'll catch up again. So appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much. Thank you for having us great pleasure.

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Speaker 2: Cassie hend Us in Night twenty two.

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Speaker 1: With the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, retirement, communities,

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Speaker 2: a Hamas doesn't agree.

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Speaker 7: But if Hamas rejects your plan, mister President, or if

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Speaker 7: This can be done the easy way or it can

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Speaker 2: to go along with this morning Mike, Cassie Henderson, Wow,

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Speaker 13: Good? And I'm Great's ray?

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Speaker 2: How are you doing very well in do this business?

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Speaker 2: Of the Labor Party gathering. I want to come to

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Speaker 2: a poll I've seen with Andy Burner, who seems remarkably

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Speaker 2: popular at the moment, but Ms Mahmoud and the migrants

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Speaker 2: and how big an issue is this for the gathering

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Speaker 2: of the Labor Party. Do they feel they've got it

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Speaker 2: going to make a job of difference.

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Speaker 13: I think what she's announced isn't a bad idea. In

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Speaker 13: what she's saying is that is that anyone who comes

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Speaker 13: to Great Britain has to invest in the country, they

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Speaker 13: have to learn the language, they have to do something

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Speaker 13: for their local community, et cetera, et cetera. It's very

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Speaker 13: communitary and very good. I think that the left of

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Speaker 13: the Labor Party will hate it every bit as much

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Speaker 13: as it hates reform, because it is singling out a

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Speaker 13: certain group of people saying you have to buide by

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Speaker 13: probably the most talented of the of the cabinet, which

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Speaker 13: perhaps isn't saying that much, but nonetheless has her finger

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Speaker 13: on the pulse a little bit. So I think it

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Speaker 13: plays well with the country, and it probably does just

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Speaker 13: dent a little of what Nigel Faras has been saying

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Speaker 13: for reform, but I don't think it plays well with

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Speaker 13: Starma's own party.

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Speaker 2: What's your view? I was watching Starmer over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: he did the weekend chet shows, and he started hoing

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Speaker 2: into reform and they're racist and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Your view on that old edage that that you don't

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Speaker 2: recognize your opposition because if you do your you're clearly

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Speaker 2: spooked by it.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's absolutely right, Michael. And I think

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Speaker 13: it's even worse than that, because he's capable of saying

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Speaker 13: reform is racist two or three days after he said

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Speaker 13: exactly what Reformer said. You know, this is the problem

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Speaker 13: he has that he's at one moment standing up and

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Speaker 13: saying that we're an island of strangers, and the next

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01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 13: is saying that people who say we're an island of

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Speaker 13: strangers as a racist. I mean, there's a certain colloquial

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Speaker 13: schizophrenia about it, and I think it plays to the

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Speaker 13: fact that he doesn't know where he stands on the issue,

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Speaker 13: and the Labor Party doesn't stand nowhere it stands on

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Speaker 13: the issue, whereas reforms certainly do go where they stand

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Speaker 13: on the issue.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about did July dies? Because it's been

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Speaker 2: announced of a Saturday morning out time and you were

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01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: last on the program Thursday. How's that gone down? How's

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Speaker 2: it going to get rolled out? And how I mean,

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Speaker 2: where does it start?

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Speaker 13: Yes, there have been there's been the usual furion. Indeed,

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Speaker 13: an online petition I don't know what it's up to now,

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Speaker 13: was one point three million when I last looked, saying

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Speaker 13: well this must have happened, this must not happen, and

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Speaker 13: miserable from the civil liberties points of view, And I've

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01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 13: read thousands of people saying that, you know, we are

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Speaker 13: not going to give up all our information to the government.

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Speaker 13: Trouble is they're saying it on Facebook and you know, TikTok,

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Speaker 13: so they've already given up all their information. And they've

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Speaker 13: given up all their information, you know, whether they get

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Speaker 13: a Tesco club card or whatever, or whatever store card

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Speaker 13: you want. So I think that objection is ohtos. There's

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Speaker 13: a rather stronger objection, which is partly on the civil

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Speaker 13: liberty side, from within the Labor Party. I've seen a

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Speaker 13: lot of Labor politicians saying why on earth are we

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01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 13: running with this now. It makes no sense. You know,

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01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 13: it doesn't appeal to any particular sect of the population.

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01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 13: We've kind of got a point. It's not something which

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01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 13: if you roll it out it's going to have people

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 13: say yeah, yeah, yeah, I can't wait for that. It's

1547
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 13: not going to make anyone better off. So it is

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Speaker 13: a bit of a puzzle as to why he's doing it.

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Speaker 13: It certainly will not and no one believes this for

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Speaker 13: a minute have any effect whatsoever on the number of

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Speaker 13: asylum seekers coming in.

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Speaker 2: No exactly. I'm reading the Sky News poll from within

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Speaker 2: the Labor Party, gathering seven hundred and four Labor members.

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Speaker 2: You Gubb did it sixty two percent, would Beck Burnham

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Speaker 2: over Sekia Starmer at twenty nine percent. How do you

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Speaker 2: run a party conference when the bloke who wasn't even

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Speaker 2: an MP is many times more popular than you are.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's difficult. It's difficult. On the other hand, competent

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Speaker 13: and likable politician though Andy Burnham is I think he's

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Speaker 13: blown his chance. He's gone way too soon. He's been

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Speaker 13: very brazen about standing and I think you will probably

1562
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 13: go down in history as a as a stalking horse

1563
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 13: more than anything else, because you know there is no

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01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 13: easy week for him into Parliament, so he can't even

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Speaker 13: become an MP. And what's happened Sinicy made this statements

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,839
Speaker 13: last week about how critical of kier Starma, quite nastily critical,

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Speaker 13: the labor governments rather coalesced around Sir Kiir Starmer and

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Speaker 13: stuff the boot into Andy Burnham. So I don't think

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Speaker 13: that in the medium to long term Andy Burnham is

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Speaker 13: an answer. The answer will be someone else. Gordon knows

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Speaker 13: who you only might go.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see Thursday. I appreciate it very much. Rod Liddle,

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Speaker 2: who's actually I think in Holland this morning we might

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Speaker 2: touch base on that on Thursday. Sixty two percent for Burnham,

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01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:46,759
Speaker 2: twenty nine percent for Starmer, Rainer, former butt Sect, Angela,

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Speaker 2: teen West Greeting, seven d Millerband who isn't even there

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Speaker 2: as far as I can tell anyway. Oh yes he

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Speaker 2: is in a bit Cooper on six percent. Those are

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Speaker 2: the numbers out this morning on the Sky poll. It

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Speaker 2: is that we're still going to keep back to old

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Speaker 2: Kessy and the feedback you loved. At seventeen to two.

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Speaker 2: you're loving her. I'm not into pop music, Mike, but

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Speaker 2: does it? Mike lover her lovely voice? But like Casey Chambers,

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Speaker 2: why does everybody sound like everybody?

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Speaker 13: One?

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Speaker 2: Come? You just sound like you? You sound like you

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Speaker 2: sound like Mike outstanding music. What a great talent? Wow,

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Speaker 2: what an incredible voice. Funnily enough, I note over the

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Speaker 2: weekend and I hadn't been pretty warned of it. But

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Speaker 2: the Swiss voted on ID cards. So if you think

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Speaker 2: it's controversial in Britain, it's just as controversial in Switzerland.

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01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: So the polls were wrong. That's the other interesting part

1609
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: of the story. So the vote turned out over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Fifty point four said yes, forty nine point six said no.

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Speaker 2: So that's one of those things that will be forever.

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Speaker 2: I'd say it's fifty to fifty. If you told me

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Speaker 2: to guess beforehand, I would have guessed fifty fifty ish. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: the polls were wrong because the polls had sixty percent

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Speaker 2: backing the digital IDs, and given it's controversial, I would

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Speaker 2: say it's that classic polling situation where what you say

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Speaker 2: in what you do and the quiet of a polling

1618
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Speaker 2: booth are two completely different thing. Second vote on digital

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Speaker 2: IDs in that part of the world. Earlier proposal was

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Speaker 2: rejected back in twenty twenty one because they had concerns

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Speaker 2: about the data being held centrally and controlled largely by

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Speaker 2: private providers. Well, I ask you the simple question, what's

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Speaker 2: changed And if you were concerned about that the n

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Speaker 2: why aren't you concerned about that? Now here's a question

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Speaker 2: for you could be a story today. Dixon Street Apartment's

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01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: famous Wellington Dump used to be social housing until they

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Speaker 2: booted everybody out and said that even for social housing,

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: this is shocking. It's been sold for three million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Is that a problem?

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Speaker 16: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and seventeen units are used for social housing

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Speaker 2: for eighty years until late twenty twenty two. Now the

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Speaker 2: act MP Cameron Luxton's onto this and he's raised questions

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Speaker 2: about the government agency, orang and Tomariki because they're the

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Speaker 2: ones who say are kyeing Or sorry? Kyeing Or has

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Speaker 2: sold it. Property had been offered to EWI and this

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Speaker 2: is where this is where the whole race thing is

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01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: a problem. Property had been offered to EWI as part

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Speaker 2: of a rite of first refusal process under their treaty settlement.

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Speaker 2: So Taranaki farn Now Limited bought it for a smidge

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Speaker 2: over a million bucks back in June. Fantastic, but he

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Speaker 2: all done at the time. Kyeing Or said comfortable with

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Speaker 2: the price and it reflected the unique value of the building.

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01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 2: Until it didn't. Just two weeks and six days after

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Speaker 2: the deal, it was sold again for two million more

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01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: paid a million sold it for three two million dollars?

1647
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: Is that smart business? Or did somebody get ripped off

1648
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: Dixon Reboot Limited along with Ian Castle's while then developer

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01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: they're part of the company, have bought it for three

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01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: million dollars. They've seen the value. Now, would they have

1651
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 2: bought it for less if they'd had or gone to

1652
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 2: an open market instead of write of first refusal? Yes?

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01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 2: By getting right of first refusal? Does somebody like kayeing

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01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 2: Aura have no idea what the thing's worth anyway? And

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Speaker 2: the locals come along go I'll give you a million

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Speaker 2: bucks and they go, oh, yeah, sounds good. Is that

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Speaker 2: how that works?

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Speaker 7: Mean?

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Speaker 2: As this is scandal, who's lost the money? It's the

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Speaker 2: tax power of course, who's lost the money? Ten away

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Speaker 2: from nine.

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Speaker 2: mean to say this for a couple of days, but

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Speaker 2: Charlie Munger, this is Berkshire Hathaway. Charlie Munger got into

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Speaker 2: byd as in the car company in China. I think

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and nine, and he saw something that

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Speaker 2: no one else did, and they have made a fortune.

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Speaker 2: And you said a couple of years ago, he said,

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Speaker 2: if you look at what Byd have been doing with

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Speaker 2: cars and what Tesla have been doing with cars, it's

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Speaker 2: embarrassing how good the Chinese are and how hopeless Elon is.

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Speaker 2: And he had the credibility to back it up. Anyway.

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01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 2: The other day they sold out completely. Now you ask

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Speaker 2: yourself they's exited, and I think officially they exited as

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Speaker 2: of yesterday. Now ask yourself for a visionary investor who

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Speaker 2: saw something before anyone else did and got in early,

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Speaker 2: why would they now be exiting a company that's only

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Speaker 2: just coming to fruition unless they're seeing something in the

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Speaker 2: Chinese eb market that involves a lot of companies going

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Speaker 2: in one direction, and that would be South five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse at praised by it would

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Speaker 1: sale on now.

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Speaker 2: Right, What do you make of what's happened here? So

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Speaker 2: Trump Netanya, who along with the katariim, he is what

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Speaker 2: we got.

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Speaker 20: We had a great talk and I was on the

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Speaker 20: phone and Bibi was talking. Prime minist Arltani was of

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01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 20: Qatar was They really had a heart to heart conversation.

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01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,640
Speaker 20: It was a great conversation. I thought it was productive.

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01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 20: It was everything that you need to have. Something turned

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Speaker 20: out to be successful. And I want to thank Bibi

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Speaker 20: and I want to thank the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 2: That was fantastic. Basically said sorry for bombing them the

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Speaker 2: other day. Now Hamas and Gaza, so what do they get.

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Speaker 2: They get seventeen hundred to ten Gasans, including ten or

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Speaker 2: fifty life sentence prisoners, and obviously Israel pull out.

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Speaker 20: Now it's time for Hamas to accept the terms of

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01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 20: the plan that we've put forward today. And again, this

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01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 20: is a different Hamas that we were dealing with because

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01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 20: I guess over twenty thousand have been killed, their leadership

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01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 20: has been killed three times over, So you're really dealing

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01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 20: with different people than we've been dealing with over the

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01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 20: last four years, five years.

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, But here's what happened today. This got overhyped,

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01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 2: This got immeasurably overhyped. This is a couple of guys

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01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:08,280
Speaker 2: who were in cahoots anyway, and they've rounded up some

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01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 2: of the Middle East countries and they go, look, can

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01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: you can you? I mean, this is all Trump's dream

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01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 2: to make the you know, trump tobia and whatever the

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01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 2: hell you want to call it. And Tony's in charge

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01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 2: and Donald's in charge, and I'm not against any of this,

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01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 2: but there's just one critical ingredient that's missing today, and

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01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 2: that is the terrorists known as Hermas. And do you

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01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: think they were sitting there in the middle of guitar game?

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01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:34,519
Speaker 2: What an excellent plan. Let's just drop the hate, drop

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01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:38,640
Speaker 2: the weaponry, drop the campaign, and we'll just where are

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01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: the pens in the paper and we'll sign up to that. Now,

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01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,759
Speaker 2: that was the bit that was missing. And the Hamas

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01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: officially say they haven't even seen the deal yet. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised, and it will be little short of

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01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 2: a miracle if they agree to it and this thing

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01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 2: goes smoothly. As I say I have, I'm wrong. What

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Speaker 2: I do know is that I am back tomorrow morning

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