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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, for its entertainments, opinion and

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Speaker 1: Mike the my Hosking breakfast with the range rover villa

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Speaker 1: designed to intrigue can use togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Being any welcome, you don't make any easier for the

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Speaker 2: traders to get on with the job. Ironically, we've also

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Speaker 2: got a new report into how hard it is to

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Speaker 2: go to school and what ultimately they cost us. Politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: after rates the Price in Australia. Richard Arnold on the

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Speaker 2: trail in the States asking it is seven past six,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the day. Kia Starmer's budget tonight. Of course

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Speaker 2: he's got a lot on his plate. Hes just back

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Speaker 2: from Chogham, where too many people for his liking. We're

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Speaker 2: insisting on talking about slavery and how Britain knows literally

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Speaker 2: trillions of dollars. Britain doesn't have trillions of dollars, of course,

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Speaker 2: and opening that particular can of worms as a road

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Speaker 2: to fiscal ruin. If you think the White tanging process

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Speaker 2: has been tortuous for this country, you ain't seen nothing

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Speaker 2: yet on slavery. Even the King cognizant of what it

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Speaker 2: might mean if they go down this never ending track, said,

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Speaker 2: no one is capable of changing the past anyway. Not

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Speaker 2: just that for stuff, but also his lack of popularity.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time since the prime minister has

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Speaker 2: won an election so spectacularly and squandered the honeymoon so quickly.

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Speaker 2: Part of his problem is the issue most labour governments

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Speaker 2: in Western democracies seem to have the line they walk

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Speaker 2: between what is perceived as a labor party and the

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Speaker 2: modern world. We've seen it here, we're seeing it in

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Speaker 2: Australia currently. Elbow is also famously unpopular. And in Britain,

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Speaker 2: where the budget will involve tax increases, labor parties love taxes.

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Speaker 2: Except Starmer promised he wouldn't increase taxes for working people.

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Speaker 2: And then that lies the problem. What is a working person?

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Speaker 2: He can't and hasn't been able to define it historically.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's a unionized grafter, a minor, a trucky,

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Speaker 2: someone who works in the steel mills, but those days

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Speaker 2: are largely gone. What it really is, but they can't say,

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Speaker 2: is a rich prick. Cullen famously said it here, of

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Speaker 2: course by a mistake, but that's who they're after. But

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Speaker 2: the problem with modern economies is working people can become

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Speaker 2: rich pricks. Not every working person. In fact, increasingly few

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Speaker 2: are destined to a life of low wages. Modern democracies

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Speaker 2: allow many to start at the bottom and work their

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Speaker 2: way to the top. New Zealand, like Britain, like Australia,

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Speaker 2: is full of people with businesses and homes and badgers

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Speaker 2: and god for bid European cars who've actually done quite

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Speaker 2: well for themselves. You would like to think that sort

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Speaker 2: of thing is encouraged, but that's the modern problem with

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Speaker 2: labour parties. They're stuck in the past and self made

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Speaker 2: success isn't celebrated. It's text. And we will see how

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Speaker 2: tortuous that path they tread is tonight in the UK.

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Speaker 1: Wow News of the World in ninety seconds, doing.

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Speaker 2: The pressures on the Chancellor, laying it on thick in

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Speaker 2: terms of how bad it is.

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Speaker 3: We inherited a twenty two billion pound black hole in

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Speaker 3: the public finances and we will set out the detail

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Speaker 3: of that at the budget tomorrow. But because of that

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Speaker 3: we've had to make very difficult choices.

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Speaker 2: By increasing texts they claim they can improve.

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Speaker 4: Health, there will be people waiting on trolley's in corridors

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Speaker 4: this winter. I can't turn that sit situation around that fast.

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Speaker 4: What I can say is that we are going into

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Speaker 4: rather than preparing for strikes.

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Speaker 2: In the US rights the Trump's back at Marilango making

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Speaker 2: some climes that may or may not be true.

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Speaker 5: The election itself is going very well.

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Speaker 6: We're leading.

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Speaker 5: I believe in all seven swim suits, so I appreciate

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Speaker 5: everybody's work.

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Speaker 2: And the spirit is unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: I don't think there's ever been anything like in it.

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Speaker 2: Upper Michigan Leadiums have got problems with some boaters over

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Speaker 2: the war in the Middle East.

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Speaker 7: If I think mister Trump will do something for what's

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Speaker 7: going on in because Dan, probably I'll work for him.

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Speaker 8: I just don't like what Kamala Harris is doing right

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Speaker 8: now when it comes like Israel and Palestine.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Trump is going to help so much,

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Speaker 2: actual Middle East. Plenty of fall out from the Israelis

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Speaker 2: move on the UNID agency.

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Speaker 9: This decision brings down an agency, a UN agency that

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Speaker 9: has been leading to him in attended response, especially in

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Speaker 10: Every single terrorist that carried out the outrages which they

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Speaker 2: Finally, news from the Art World twenty nineteen. You may

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Speaker 2: remember this. Three pieces of art were sold for a

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Speaker 2: couple hundred thousand dollars each. They were a banana taped

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Speaker 2: presumably this is a piece of duct tape and a banana,

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Speaker 2: and of course official instructions on what to do with it.

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Speaker 2: By way of installation estimated at this time, they're looking

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Speaker 2: want to find a upbig country. Confidence in America is

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Speaker 2: up at one thirty eight they are virtually fizzing. Well,

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Speaker 2: look at this more in a moment. Twelve minutes past.

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Speaker 2: You'll be thrilled to know that Addie Das and Ya

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Speaker 2: Kanye West have cut a deal. This is the yeasy business.

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Speaker 2: It's been going on for years. It's embarrassing they finally

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Speaker 2: come to a conclusion. No money changed hands, but I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're friends. Fifteen pass six telling her good morning,

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Speaker 2: Very good morning, Mike Jobs, talk to me. How are

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, we mentioned the jobs market yesterday morning.

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Speaker 6: This gives us a measure called filled jobs.

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Speaker 8: We get the big official read on the labor market

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Speaker 8: Now, employment by this measure was flat in September, so

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Speaker 8: He basically said, age care. That's going to be the

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Speaker 8: Now we've got jobs number next week. We're expecting or

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Speaker 2: When does that stop?

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Speaker 8: I dutifully read out the gold price every morning. We

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Speaker 8: tend to and look like we tend to talk about shares,

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Speaker 6: In the last couple of years, the.

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Speaker 8: There's been a very healthy rise in the price of gold.

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Speaker 6: Play with you coming from New Zealand.

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Speaker 8: But this year the price has risen from two thousand

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Speaker 6: The world are spending a heck of a lot of money.

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Speaker 8: this year, Mike, has been central banks buying gold. Central

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Speaker 6: Is they are borrowing so much money, they're running that.

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Speaker 8: Such a big physical deficit that if that was to

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Speaker 8: lot of gold. I think Poland's in there as well.

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Speaker 8: I'm not sure why Poland's are buying gold. And plus

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Speaker 8: I think you can go into Costco. You can buy

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Speaker 8: gold bars in Costco, and there've been a run on them.

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Speaker 8: They can't keep up with them.

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Speaker 6: And of course you can only they're doing platinum. You

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Speaker 6: can do platinum as well as gold. Go to Costco

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Speaker 6: get your platinum ritten.

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Speaker 2: Now, what are the numbers?

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Speaker 8: So the Dow Jones US, Yeah, I said a consumer

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Speaker 2: It was an association with the Business Innovation Employment People.

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Speaker 2: In other words, the government do the government want to help?

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Speaker 15: Yes, I think they do, and that's why this work

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Speaker 15: The report was excellent because businesses were very clear about

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Speaker 2: Good how ideologically driven is all of this? In other words,

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Speaker 15: Look a lot of the ideas on the list are

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Speaker 15: For example, our hairdressers and barbers have been much ignored

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Speaker 15: But it's a lot of other things, from employment agreements,

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Speaker 15: We start with the right intent, But often policymakers make

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Speaker 2: That's absurd. The interesting thing I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: All right, nice to talk to you, Catherine, and I

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Speaker 2: If the new house building regulations long overdue, and along

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Speaker 2: with many other keywis, we pray it will bring the

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Speaker 2: price down. We'll have a look at this through year

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Speaker 2: shortly fourteen to two.

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Speaker 16: International correspondence with enzed Eye Insurance, Peace of mind for

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Speaker 16: New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, Morning, Mike, Where are they? What are they saying?

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Speaker 17: Final sprint? Has I guess both sides straining? Is that fair?

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Speaker 17: I think so. In a few hours, Carmala Harris will

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Speaker 17: deliver a big closing rally at the Ellipse near the

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Speaker 17: White House, the very spot where Donald Trump, back in

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Speaker 17: twenty twenty one, urged his followers to march on the

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Speaker 17: US capital. Some forty thousand people are expected, as she

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Speaker 17: will ask hervebackers to turn the page on the Trump

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Speaker 17: Europe while Trump is trying to get over his own

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Speaker 17: big rally, the one at Madison Square Garden in New York.

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Speaker 17: This square where he might have botched his own campaign finale.

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Speaker 17: As you've been saying, the selection is so close it

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Speaker 17: to all come bound to the battle down state of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 17: That is certainly a possibility, and that is a place

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Speaker 17: where there are nearly half a million people of Puerto

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Speaker 17: rican To said, that's why the joke at the Trump

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Speaker 17: event by comedian Tony Hinchcliff, who often does those celebrity

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Speaker 17: race went down pretty flat when he called Puerto Rico

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Speaker 17: a floating island of garbage. There is a huge ongoing

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Speaker 17: backlash to this. The Democrats VP picked Tim Walls saying

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Speaker 17: this was not just a racist dog whistle, more like

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Speaker 17: a siren. Kamala Harris says this is more of the

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Speaker 17: same and maybe more vivid than usual. Donald Trump spends

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Speaker 17: full time trying.

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Speaker 7: To have Americans point they finger at each other.

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Speaker 18: Fans the fuel of.

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Speaker 7: The hate and division, and that's why people are exhausted

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Speaker 7: with kem Well.

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Speaker 17: The Trump rally joke was slammed by Bad Bunny and

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Speaker 17: Rookie Martin, as well as Jennifer Lopez, with a combined

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Speaker 17: social media following of three hundred and fourteen million people.

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Speaker 17: Good idea to insult folks and ask with their votes.

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Speaker 12: Maybe not.

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Speaker 17: Congressman Richie Torres says he is inclined to call the

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Speaker 17: comedian racist garbage, but adds to do so would be

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Speaker 17: an insult the garbage. Now we find the Trump aides

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Speaker 17: cut one joke from Hinchcliff's script. He planned to call

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Speaker 17: Harris the Sea Wood. They scratched that at the last moment,

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Speaker 17: but they knew the tone of things meantime. You had

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Speaker 17: some of the crazy nonsense from the rally yesterday. But

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Speaker 17: if not, I think is Elon musk He has palmed

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Speaker 17: around two hundred million dollars in New Zealand to a

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Speaker 17: Trump supporting pack. In US history, people like of Hearst

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Speaker 17: back in the day and Rockefeller, Carnegie, JP Morgan tried

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Speaker 17: to buy the US presidency. But musk Is is pretty

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Speaker 17: high on it. And here is a clip from the

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Speaker 17: world's richest man waving his arms around for Trump the future.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be amazing.

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Speaker 6: You guys are awesome Honestly, this.

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Speaker 8: Is like USA USA, USA, usaid.

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Speaker 17: What yes, so elon pretending to be Tarzan.

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Speaker 2: Then we come to started out with the La Times.

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Speaker 2: Now we've moved to the Washington Post.

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Speaker 17: Yes, an Amazon boss, Jiff Bezos, is trying to halt

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Speaker 17: the bleeding after he stepped into quash an endorsement of

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Speaker 17: Kamala Harris by the Post. Bezos pulling the endorsement at

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Speaker 17: the very last moment, and that timing is a key

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Speaker 17: part of the criticism he's getting for the move. The

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Speaker 17: La Times, is you note also held back from endorsing

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Speaker 17: anyone this time around owned by another billionaire. But in

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Speaker 17: the case of the Post, some two hundred thousand p

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Speaker 17: people have pulled their Washington Post subscriptions in protests. That

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Speaker 17: seems to be a lot of readers. Some editorial staff

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Speaker 17: also have quit, so the Post is dealing with a

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Speaker 17: real ongoing crisis over this. Dave Jorgensen, the Post self

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Speaker 17: described TikToker, issued this little video over a supposed Jeff

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Speaker 19: Well, as you may know, I'm not a billionaire, yes,

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Speaker 19: and many of us billionaires own multiple companies. Yeah, we

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Speaker 19: know you own the Washington Post and Blue origin, which

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Speaker 19: happens to have billions of dollars in cloud computing contracts

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Speaker 19: with the federal government. So you're worried about retribution if

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Speaker 19: Trump would I didn't say that.

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Speaker 2: Enough said so yes, sir, mate, appreciate it. Richard arnld State. So,

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Speaker 2: by the way, later at polling has Harris. Currently this

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Speaker 2: is a polar pulse. Currently she leads in battleground states

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Speaker 2: worth forty one electoral College votes, twenty seven Trump is

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Speaker 2: in charge of, and the rest twenty six are effectively tied.

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Speaker 2: If you want to go to the betting market, Betfair

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Speaker 2: have gone and summarized bookmakers' predictions using live data and

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Speaker 2: the betting markets themselves. They have ever been so confident

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Speaker 2: in a Trump victory. So in sixteen Trump defined everybody

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Speaker 2: gave him only a twenty six percent chance of winning.

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Speaker 2: He did win. In twenty twenty gave him thirty four

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Speaker 2: percent chances of beating Biden, he didn't. This time around,

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Speaker 2: they've got him this morning sixty two percent chance of winning.

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Speaker 2: So if you put weight on, follow the money, he's

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Speaker 2: in nine away from seven on.

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Speaker 1: My costal breakfast with the Range River Villa news talks

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Speaker 1: that had been.

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Speaker 2: Before we leave the States. I note that they've cut

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Speaker 2: a deal in Baltimore. Remember the ship ran into the

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Speaker 2: bridge in Baltimore. The owners of that ship that crashed

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Speaker 2: its Francis Scott Key Bridge, they've been ordered to pay

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Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars the Gray Ocean Private Limited and

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Speaker 2: Synergy Marine Private Limited. There the companies that owned the Daly.

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Speaker 2: And so they've cut a deal at last. And that

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Speaker 2: seems who have been sorted once and for all six

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, the ins and the outs. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of cars, speaking of America, a leading car brand

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Speaker 2: in the US, economist say, if you look at the

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Speaker 2: leading car brand in the US, they sort of you

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Speaker 2: get an indication as to how people are feeling about

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Speaker 2: the overall economy. So Ford is your brand. They've got

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Speaker 2: the best selling truck, have had the best selling truck

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Speaker 2: of the last forty two years, the F one fifty. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Q three, what do we got? They brought in just

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Speaker 2: over forty six billion in revenue, which was higher than

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Speaker 2: the forty one point nine billion the street expected. That's

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Speaker 2: despite the fact that they had to find a couple

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Speaker 2: of billion in cost cuts and have continued to pay

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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions in warranty costs that cause them to

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Speaker 2: miss earnings and expectations back in Q two. So what's

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Speaker 2: that mean? That turns into nine hundred million dollars of

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Speaker 2: net income. Q three are led by their new pro

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Speaker 2: commercial and fleet businesses Ford Blue earned one point six

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Speaker 2: three billion. Whether they lose some money, I wonder where

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Speaker 2: they lost some money? Modelly that unit lost one point

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Speaker 2: and what's the E stand for? I hear you ask

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Speaker 2: not energy electric? That unit lost one point two to

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Speaker 2: two billion during the quarter. Is that bad?

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Speaker 6: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: They lost a little bit less than they lost a

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Speaker 2: year ago. But that's because basically they didn't sell as

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Speaker 2: many cars. So if you don't sell as many cars,

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Speaker 2: you don't bring any money. Just how that works. As

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Speaker 2: reading internationally, this morning end of the Road for electric

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Speaker 2: cars shocking chart reveals how EV sales have slumped. This

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Speaker 2: is globally. They're citing Tesla quarterly sales from four eighty

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Speaker 2: four thousand down to three eighty six thousand. Byd Their

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Speaker 2: global EV sales have crashed. First quarter sold three hundred thousand,

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Speaker 2: down from five hundred and twenty six thousand in the

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Speaker 2: last quarter of last year. I mean that's quite the four,

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Speaker 2: isn't from five to twenty six thousand down to three

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand, and then even Volkswagen. Volkswagen, they're a story

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Speaker 2: to follow because they're a major, major player in the

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Speaker 2: European car market, not to mention the EV market is

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Speaker 2: a story in and of itself. Volkswagen are now looking

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Speaker 2: at closing factories in Germany and of course that'll have

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Speaker 2: a material effect on the German economy. They're looking at

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Speaker 2: laying off workers. So they sold two andred thirty nine

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Speaker 2: five hundred evs and Q four of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: and that's gone down the following quarter to one hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty six So from two thirty nine down to

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Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty six thousand, So they are really struggling.

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Speaker 2: They've done some research into all of this. It's the

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Speaker 2: usual thing that reduced incentives all over the world that

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Speaker 2: you don't get the incentives used to get and the

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Speaker 2: uncertainty about resale value, and given the resale value is

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Speaker 2: not particularly good, people go, why would I bother? UK

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Speaker 2: government's going to ban the engines they're going to have

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Speaker 2: to review that by twenty thirty. Currently in the UK,

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Speaker 2: for example, only three point seventy five percent of newcow

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Speaker 2: sales the EV. So the EV market is a troubled

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Speaker 2: one building houses. Speaking of trouble, can we make it easier?

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Speaker 2: Let's have a look at the new rules in just

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Speaker 2: a couple of moments.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, the mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with a Vita Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News TOGS DBS.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So has some common sense arrived at

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Speaker 2: a building site near you? On average takes almost nineteen

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Speaker 2: months to get a house build and consented. So come

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Speaker 2: on in self certification. Some tradees will be able to

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Speaker 2: sort jobs for themselves. Builders at scale will have life

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Speaker 2: made easier.

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Speaker 14: GJ.

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Speaker 2: Gardener, General Manager Oli Sunstrom is with us Oli morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. You like the sound of us broadly?

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Speaker 7: Oh? Absolutely, you know. Look, firstly, you know, thanks for

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Speaker 7: having me. Yeah, I'd like to you know, behlf of

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Speaker 7: our business. Congratulate the current government for taking this first

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Speaker 7: step and making what we seem to be a common

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Speaker 7: sense prevails piece of legislation priority.

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Speaker 2: Do you see risk in it or not?

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Speaker 20: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Look, I think you know, there's there's certainly risk that

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Speaker 7: it needs to be calculative risk, and really that where

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Speaker 7: the measures that are set up and put in place

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Speaker 7: to manage the process, to manage the criteria needs to

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Speaker 7: be needs to be strict and visible.

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Speaker 2: So what is it what they're saying about a company

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Speaker 2: like yours? As you build some of the homes all

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Speaker 2: the time, therefore, I've seen one, I've seen them all.

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Speaker 2: Is it about that, in other words, of you do

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Speaker 2: the same thing over and over again? Or is it

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Speaker 2: about you being good people who can manage yourself anyway

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Speaker 2: no matter what you build.

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Speaker 14: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Look, you know, certainly we consider ourselves to be good people,

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Speaker 7: no doubt about that. But really it comes down to

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Speaker 7: our build performance and what we delivered to our customers.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 7: Might we have a very much approven track record in

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Speaker 7: this country and in this market. We've delivered right across

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Speaker 7: our national network over twenty three thousand homes to Kiwis

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Speaker 7: with every home that we've started completed, which says a

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Speaker 7: lot about our track record and the strict disciplines we use.

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Speaker 7: We're building track customers.

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Speaker 2: How much of what you do you just stand there

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Speaker 2: and literally say, this is a waste of time in

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Speaker 2: terms of paperwork and compliance.

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Speaker 7: Oh look, you know, there's no doubt that you know,

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Speaker 7: a lot of the bureaucracy and red tape that's involved

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Speaker 7: in some of these processes that we're talking about slows

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Speaker 7: this down fairly significantly, you know, and it's difficult when

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Speaker 7: you can't control some of those things. So yeah, look,

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Speaker 7: it certainly has an impact. And we believe that, you know,

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Speaker 7: with this proposed piece of legislation from from the current government,

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Speaker 7: that we can really you know, speed up the process

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Speaker 7: as it stands.

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Speaker 2: What's the key benefit? Is it speed or is it

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Speaker 2: savings for the person buying the house?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 7: I think it's both, you know, you know, to give

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Speaker 7: you an idea, you know, pre but the red tape

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Speaker 7: challenges that we're talking about. We could build and hand

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Speaker 7: over a two hundred square meter home from one of

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Speaker 7: our concept plans. You know, I'm talking three bedroom, two bathroom.

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Speaker 7: We could deliver that home and you know circle forteen

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Speaker 7: fifteen weeks. You know, the delays we are talking about

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Speaker 7: can add forty to fifty percent of that time frame. So,

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Speaker 7: you know, with the right criteria, and it needs to

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Speaker 7: be the right criteria, you know, for builders such as

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Speaker 7: ourselves with a proven track record, you know, you know,

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Speaker 7: I don't see why we can't get back to these

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Speaker 7: time frames because it's the stairs product and material and

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Speaker 7: labor supply and not an issue.

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Speaker 2: Good on you, Mully, go well with it. Appreciate Olie Sunstrom,

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Speaker 2: who's with GJ. Gardner's Kieren mcinnaughty. I don't know why

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Speaker 2: he's the acting, but he's the acting in this particular portfolio.

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Speaker 2: And I not happens to be on the program updre

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock. He seems to be behind it as well.

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Speaker 2: So common sense might well win the day ten minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven passing, but not everyone's thrilled. So what are

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Speaker 2: the risks here of the New Zealand Institute of Building Survey,

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Speaker 2: As President Dave Clifton's with us, David morning, Yeah, good boy, Mike,

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Speaker 2: you for having it on in no worries at all.

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Speaker 2: Are you up against it in the sense that everyone's

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Speaker 2: just going to go, thank God for the some sick

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Speaker 2: of paperwork, let's get on with it, and you're going

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Speaker 2: to You've got a fairly tough old road a ho

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Speaker 2: here In terms of red flags.

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Speaker 20: I think it's a case of we've got the devil's

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Speaker 20: in the detail and the other simplification that's come out

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Speaker 20: might be the issue. I mean, we've got to look

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Speaker 20: at the key issues here is that you know, the

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Speaker 20: talk of the consent very expensive and time consuming, and

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Speaker 20: they can be, but they also provide the consumer protection

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Speaker 20: that we need in the industry and in the construction sector.

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Speaker 20: And they provide the trust levels that consumers need that

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Speaker 20: things are being done properly. And I think when you

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Speaker 20: look at there are lots of really really good builders

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Speaker 20: out there, and there's some that aren't so good. And

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Speaker 20: I think we still have an issue of a high

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Speaker 20: failure rate of inspections within the industry. And we do

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Speaker 20: need to make sure that our education processes for builders

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Speaker 20: and consultants is up to scratch and that our sort

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Speaker 20: of continued professional development is there as well. I think

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Speaker 20: those are really important factors that need to be worked

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Speaker 20: on first before we start doing self certification. I think

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Speaker 20: it's something that we can work towards, but I think

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Speaker 20: it's something that we've got to work towards, not just

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Speaker 20: start doing. I think also there's mention of the professional

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Speaker 20: dentity insurance as far as we're aware that's not really

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Speaker 20: a perfe indemptory insurance market for this in New Zealand. Great, well,

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Speaker 20: it will be created potentially, but it's at the moment

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Speaker 20: it's it's not there, and it takes a lot to

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Speaker 20: trade a new market in this sort of space. Professional

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Speaker 20: indemnity insurance like we hold as redistive building surveyors is

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Speaker 20: as a as a high threshold, high cost element and

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Speaker 20: backed by international markets and the like. A large scale

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Speaker 20: design and build contracts have them, and they're they're expensive policies.

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Speaker 2: That Sparky they still sertify.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, I think, but when you look at the failure

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Speaker 20: rates that we see from those in that in that sector.

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Speaker 2: Specifically spark in my life, No.

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Speaker 20: But the failure rates for those those people is incredibly low.

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Speaker 20: So Sparky's failure rates on inspections and also I think

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Speaker 20: it's very very low, whereas in general construction and we

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Speaker 20: still have very high rates of failure of inspections. And

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Speaker 20: that is the key for fundamental here. We have to

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Speaker 20: make sure that we're getting it right first before we

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Speaker 20: can go off and do it by our Would.

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Speaker 2: You be convinced once we actually see the legislation and

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Speaker 2: what's going to get passed by way of law. Could

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Speaker 2: you be convinced that they're onto it, they know what

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Speaker 2: they're doing, and we could actually be improving things or not.

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Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I think Look, it's all devi al of

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Speaker 20: the detail here, and it's all about just getting our

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Speaker 20: baselines and our foundations right, education, getting our inspection processes right,

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Speaker 20: getting our build processes right. If those things are created

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Speaker 20: in the right space, in the right way, and built

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Speaker 20: on then these things can happen. And you know, they'll

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Speaker 20: still need to be random inspections and audits and checks

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Speaker 20: to make sure that everybody is still playing by the

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Speaker 20: same rules and there aren't corder's cut and we don't

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Speaker 20: end up where we were twenty years ago exactly.

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Speaker 2: David, appreciate it very much. David Clifton, New Zealand Institute

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Speaker 2: of Building Survey as fourteen minutes past seven. Yet quickly,

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Speaker 2: while I'm on housing, the rental prices for the month

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Speaker 2: rout we've hit an eight month low median price around

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Speaker 2: the country six thirty. It's down ten bucks of one

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Speaker 2: point six percent. Biggest decreases Marlborough down to their bucks,

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Speaker 2: Canterbury down twenty five Hawk's Bay down to six hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten bucks, down to six hundred and forty. Places that

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Speaker 2: have gone up Northland, Nelson, Tasman, Southland. But mind you

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Speaker 2: and south And you're still only paying an average of

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Speaker 2: four hundred and seventy five dollars a week, so it's

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Speaker 2: not the end of the world.

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Speaker 2: Right oh, seventeen past seven. There's a new trend I

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Speaker 2: got for you and Jewel evill a new ish trend anyway,

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Speaker 2: lab grond diamonds, right, so they look real, but they

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Speaker 2: cost a fraction of the real thing. So how good

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Speaker 2: are they and what's it doing to the value of

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Speaker 2: the real thing if you've got the real thing? Holland

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Speaker 2: co owner Greg Hollins, Well, it's Greg Morning, Good morning White.

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Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, But I think lab grind

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Speaker 2: has been around for years, haven't They's just have they

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Speaker 2: suddenly improved in quality? Heints, we're all excited about them.

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Speaker 13: Yes, Look, there actually nothing new about lab grown. Back

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Speaker 13: in the fifties, General Electric managed to figure out how

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Speaker 13: to create a labor and diamond.

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Speaker 2: Right between you like, can I tell the difference between

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Speaker 2: a one and a lab DROWND nowadays or not?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 13: The short answer is no, unless you're a gymologist and

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Speaker 13: you've got a magnification.

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Speaker 11: You can see growth.

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Speaker 13: Lines and a lab grown diamond, but you need pretty

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Speaker 13: pretty intense magnification to see that. So no, to the

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Speaker 13: naked eye, you can't see the.

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Speaker 2: Difference high quality one carrot real versus one carrot man made.

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Speaker 2: What's the price difference?

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Speaker 13: Oh, it's significant, it's roughly half.

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Speaker 2: So why would I buy real?

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Speaker 13: Well exactly, But I would say that they're not everyone's

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Speaker 13: cup of tea. I mean, I've got customers that will

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Speaker 13: just absolutely don't want to even to look at a

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Speaker 13: lab grown for whatever reason.

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Speaker 2: That might be, and others, I mean that's about snobbery.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, potentially, yep, But no, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 13: They are an increasing trend and are they here to stay?

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Speaker 13: And lab grown diamonds are definitely an option for a

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Speaker 13: customer looking for anegagement rings.

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Speaker 2: I have followed this for a couple of years internationally.

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Speaker 2: The price of the real stuff, when you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: the VS and all those sort of people, The price

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Speaker 2: of the real stuff has come down because of all this,

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Speaker 2: hasn't it?

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Speaker 11: Yes? It has?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So how come because a diamond is a diamond is

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Speaker 2: a diamond, and that hasn't changed other than people's perceptions.

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Speaker 2: So it's the perceptions that's the price, that's all it is.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and the supply obviously to the lab growns, you know,

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Speaker 13: and we're seeing huge amount of supply coming through, so

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Speaker 13: the price of labrons has dropped as well.

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Speaker 2: Do people have a stigma when they come in and

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Speaker 2: go I'd like to when you're standing there with your

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Speaker 2: bride to be and they go, I'd like a real

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Speaker 2: one echo like lab ground? Can I do that? Does

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Speaker 2: it get it embarrassed?

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Speaker 14: No?

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Speaker 13: I mean the way our frame is like, the customer

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Speaker 13: has the choice obviously, so you know, I'll present with them.

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Speaker 13: You know, it might give you an option of have

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Speaker 13: a beautiful SAPPI for example, versus a natural diamond versus

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Speaker 13: a lab grown It's really a customer's choice. And as

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Speaker 13: long as there I like giving them acute information so

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Speaker 13: they know exactly what they're dealing with them how to

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Speaker 13: make an informed decision. That's the key to it.

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Speaker 2: How's business generally?

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Speaker 14: Look?

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Speaker 13: I found it quite good this year. I've got very

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Speaker 13: loyal world customers, so yeah, there's always a demand for

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Speaker 13: for lex anniversary or significant birthday.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, fantastic. Good on your Greg, Nice to

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Speaker 2: talk to you. Pass that one onto the newsroom. Were

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Speaker 2: you found a businessman who's doing well in diamonds? Say

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Speaker 2: you don't hear that too often? Tell you what, You're

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Speaker 2: not going to be able to afford a diamond if

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Speaker 2: you don't go to school. That's Mike's take this morning.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of kids not going to school still,

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Speaker 2: and the number of kids who aren't going to school

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Speaker 2: who are chronically absent has doubled at high school level

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Speaker 2: and tripled at primary school level, So what the hell's

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Speaker 2: yesterday quit the paper, and a Beezos who wrote a

874
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: couple of self explanatory things. Firstly, he wished that no

875
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: endorsement move had come earlier, not in the heat of

876
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: the battle. He then pointed out, quite correctly, not a

877
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: single undecided voter ever anywhere had their mind made up

878
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: by a newspaper. And then, most importantly of all, he suggested,

879
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: once again quite correctly, the media is not trusted by

880
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: the American public, and wandering around pretending to be neutral

881
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: while endorsing people is not going to help their reputation.

882
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: Not surprisingly, both papers were going to endorse Harris, of course,

883
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: and whether from a point of view of true balance

884
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: or not, a media already seemed to be hopelessly left

885
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: leaning and in the Democrats pocket was not going to

886
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 2: tilt the balance their way by further enhancing the reputation

887
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: as anti Trump. The endorsement business comes, of course from

888
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 2: a different age, an age when paper is actually matted.

889
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 2: Some still do, but not many, and as the media

890
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: is diluted, it matters less and less. The problem with

891
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: the problem, of course, is those in the middle of

892
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: it still clearly suffer from another age old problem of

893
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: the media. Too many take themselves too seriously. I bet

894
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: many of them actually believe that people don't make up

895
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: their mind until they're told to. Many of them will

896
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: think an endorsement swings the race or moves the needle.

897
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: Many of them will think that Abezos as owner really

898
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 2: doesn't get to make the calls when guess what he does.

899
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: The upside might just be that a tired old habit

900
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: ie endorsement by newspaper might just have died in the

901
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: race of twenty four faskingm Ike spent several years in

902
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: the diamond industry. Blood diamonds were an hour, a complete myth.

903
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: The concept was created by the Bees after they bought

904
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: billions of them from rebels in various African civil wars.

905
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: Once the diamonds, you can't tell where it's from. Its

906
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: great industry built entirely on marketing, So good luck to

907
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: lab grown guys, Mike. The issues with the building inspectors

908
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: is that they and the counsels they work for are

909
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: so risk averse, and every inspector has their own view

910
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: and opinion. Couldn't agree more with you. I speak from

911
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 2: personal experience that depending on who you get on what

912
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: given day, and whether or not they're a nice person

913
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: or not a nice person or a pedantic pratt, depends

914
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: on what the outcome is. Mike. My wife has recently

915
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: bought a three carrot grind diamond, which cost her about

916
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: six thousand compared to sixty thousand for the real thing.

917
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: She's also sold to real diamonds. I think it's an

918
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: ethical thing to do. Well if you sell them to somebody,

919
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: what's ethical about that? The diamond still exists. No one saved.

920
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: You haven't saved anybody because of it. Somebody else that's

921
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: just got a nice diamond do they shine the same,

922
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: Yes they do. We all know what diamond Katie's got. Now, no,

923
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 2: you don't. Diamond that Katie wears is real diamond because

924
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: my love for Katie is real, real love, real diamonds,

925
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: so how Mike sees it. And you're never going to

926
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: be able to afford a diamond if you don't go

927
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: to school kids. So anyway, we'll talk about this in

928
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: just a couple of moments. The Er and Ruth Shanoda

929
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: is back with us and good news from Rugby. There

930
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: are more people playing, The registrations are up, so what's

931
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 2: going on there?

932
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 14: What big news?

933
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: Bold opinions the mic Hosking breakfast with the range rovervillare

934
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: designed to intrigue and use TOGSB.

935
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: The Australians have got their first COVID report out and

936
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: the findings are stark and worrying and probably importantly for us,

937
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: I doubt they will be anything different to what we

938
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 2: would have come up with, it says and I quote.

939
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: The most disturbing finding from the year long COVID inquiry

940
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: is trust among the Australian community has been eroded. So

941
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 2: I'll have more for you in just a couple of

942
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 2: moments on that twenty three to eight Politics Wednesday, Curre

943
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: Macinaty and Virginny and Mark Mitchell did the business upright

944
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: for you?

945
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 10: Now.

946
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 2: Meantime, we've got a new look at the ongoing mess

947
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: that is school absinceaism by the age of twenty. The

948
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: er the Education Review Officers claims chronically absence students cost

949
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: the state three times as much as those going to school.

950
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: That stuff you would expect the cost in crime and

951
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: social housing, all that sort of thing. So last two

952
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: eighty thousand students were chronically absent. That's missing three weeks

953
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: in a term. At the head of Bro's education evaluation

954
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: see to Ruth Jerodisbeck. Well, this is Ruth, very good

955
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: morning to you. Good morning you depressed about this.

956
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 18: Very We think we've got a chronic absence crisis. Has

957
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 18: bought the number of students of chonic absence in the

958
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 18: last decade and actually nearly trickled in primary school.

959
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: How do you explain them?

960
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 18: So students we talked to, so there's a range of

961
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 18: fact that half of them said their mental health and issues,

962
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 18: but being bullied at school and not feeling safe at

963
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 18: schools and issues or things going in their family lives,

964
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 18: for example, moving around a lot. But what we do

965
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 18: know is the support we've got in place to respond

966
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 18: to this is just not adequate and isn't adequately resourced.

967
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: See what's interesting about this for me, apart from the

968
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: fact that it's depressing, is when this goes back to

969
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. So everyone up until now is blaming COVID.

970
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: Twenty fifteen's well before COVID. So something was going on,

971
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: wasn't it.

972
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 18: Yeah, So we know that this has been growing since twenty fifteen.

973
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 18: So these factors that are contributing to a long standing

974
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 18: and we've got to have better support in place. Half

975
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 18: the schools don't refer to attendance services because attendant services

976
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 18: are often not effective because they're overwhelmed. Some of them

977
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 18: have got like five hundred student caseloads for a single worker.

978
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 18: It's just not enough.

979
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay. So the caret and stick thing that's going on

980
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: with the current government about attendance and making schools all

981
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 2: that is that helping is then an approach that works

982
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 2: or not.

983
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 18: We know that knowing where they are step attendance response,

984
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 18: where we're going to be doing more to understand what's

985
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 18: going on. Monitor them and act early. That is a

986
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 18: key part of it. But we're also saying we need

987
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 18: more effective, targeted support and we need to do more

988
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 18: to retain students when they do make it back to school,

989
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 18: and schools need to be funded and services need to

990
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 18: be funded to do this. There's some things we can

991
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 18: move off schools, for example, prosecutions or information sharing, so

992
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 18: schools could focus on what they do best, which is

993
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 18: working with the kids and their parents.

994
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: Is it solvable to the extentes that like crime? In

995
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: other words, it's all very well to get to the

996
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: kid and help them, but then they go back home

997
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: to where the problems started, and as long as you're

998
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: doing that bit, that's where you trouble lies.

999
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 18: It's definitely solvable because we've looked at really effective systems

1000
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 18: both here and abroad, and they are end to end.

1001
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 18: But you're right, it has to be relentlessly removing those barriers.

1002
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 18: Some of those are with parents and families, but some

1003
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 18: of them is about the school. Students most often said

1004
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 18: it was kind of school factors that stopped them going

1005
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 18: to school, and parents also said they want to work

1006
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 18: more closely to school, and we know school are doing

1007
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 18: their best they're just not set up to succeed.

1008
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 2: I don't know how to put it at the light ay,

1009
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,720
Speaker 2: And you know, in other words, I don't like school,

1010
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't like the teachers, I'm bullied, all that stuff

1011
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 2: we all went through that have we just become a

1012
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: bit soft and that's suddenly a reason not to go

1013
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: to school as opposed to it sucks, but that's life.

1014
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 18: What we talked to these students, it was more serious

1015
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 18: things with mental health and also barriers like physical health,

1016
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 18: because these are kids are missing three weeks a term.

1017
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 18: It's not missing a day or two.

1018
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 14: Here.

1019
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 18: They've got really significant isshes, many of them, and we

1020
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 18: need to work through that so that they.

1021
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 20: Can get back to school.

1022
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: Segnificant issue. I mean we I mean, I don't want

1023
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: to sound like a dinosaur, but we were all bullied

1024
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: at school, weren't we. Every one of us was bullied

1025
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 2: at school. We didn't call it mental health. It was

1026
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 2: just we got bullied at school. Is that what you're

1027
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: talking about, though, No.

1028
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 18: We're talking about a range of things. For example, and

1029
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 18: if you're struggling with anxiety or issues like that, and

1030
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 18: also if your family's moving around a lot. And I've

1031
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 18: seen quite a lot of that. And if your family's

1032
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 18: moving and you go into three or four different schools

1033
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 18: a year, it's really hard to create those habits of

1034
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 18: going regularly that help you succeed. And unfortunately you saw

1035
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 18: in the report, if kids aren't going regularly, these students

1036
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 18: are much less likely to succeed in life, less than

1037
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 18: half of the end level two and by the age

1038
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 18: of twenty five, nearly half for receiving a benefit rather

1039
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 18: than being in work. So this education they're missing out

1040
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 18: actually really damages their life chances.

1041
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: So no, none of that's surprising. Unfortunately, having said that,

1042
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 2: is what you're saying that, because you've been around a while,

1043
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: is life for a young person now profoundly different in

1044
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: their interaction with school than it was thirty years ago

1045
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: for example, something just just obviously different. Therefore we've got

1046
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: these problems.

1047
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 18: What we're saying is it's a mixture of things. So

1048
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 18: definitely students have got new pressures and new anxieties, and

1049
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 18: we're seeing that across education and social media and other

1050
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 18: things to put pressures. But we're also saying that somehow

1051
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 18: in these in and we've lost this sort of importance

1052
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 18: of education and across attendance. We're seeing that we're just

1053
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 18: not taking going to school seriously enough, so there are

1054
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 18: real barriers. But also with all of us got to

1055
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 18: do more to get our kids going to school regularly

1056
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 18: because the more you do it, there's the biggest predictor

1057
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 18: of attendance is going to school regularly.

1058
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 13: It's a habit.

1059
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree? Do we are we an outlier? I mean,

1060
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: as Australia got the same problem we had, what about

1061
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: Britain all that sort of stuff? Are we doing something wrong?

1062
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: Or as every western country got the same.

1063
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 18: Issue, so we did look at that, and other countries

1064
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 18: don't really measure chronic absence in the way that we do.

1065
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 18: We do know attendance a class issue. In New Zealand

1066
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 18: is one of the poor performers and we need to

1067
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 18: do better. And this report, hopefully sais that how we

1068
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 18: can because our really effective things that we can do

1069
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 18: that will make a difference if we do it together.

1070
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Ruth appreciate company is always Ruth Shanoda, who's

1071
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: the head of the eero's Education Evaluations Center. It is

1072
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: seventeen minutes away from mate asking is the postling a

1073
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: big deal? I got the Vibe yesterday, tell me if

1074
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: I'm hopelessly out of touch. They announce MB who run

1075
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: New Zealand Post, that we're going to have to do

1076
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: something because none of us seen mail anymore and it's

1077
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: gone down to next to nothing, and they think it

1078
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 2: will be one hundred million pieces by twenty twenty eight.

1079
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: It was eight hundred and thirteen. So it's plummeting over

1080
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 2: the last twenty years. And we all know this. But

1081
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: once upon a time when they used to say, oh,

1082
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: we're going to cut up from seven days a week

1083
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: to six days a week, to five days a week,

1084
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: et cetera, everyone will go, oh my god, the end

1085
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: of the world. Whereas now I noted yesterday with the

1086
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: announcement which they're thinking, you bring it down to three

1087
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: and two days a week, depending on where the country

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Speaker 2: you are. Does anyone care anymore because there's so little

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Speaker 2: male and therefore it doesn't affect us. Is it just

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00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: like that's life? Or have I completely misread that? Seventeen

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Speaker 2: to two.

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Speaker 1: Love Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: I can't think of any mail item that can't wait

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Speaker 2: three days I mean, the last thing I got and

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00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: that was unusual was the speeding ticket I told you

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00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: about last week, and that was the first speeding ticket

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Speaker 2: in years. And therefore I can't think of a single

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Speaker 2: other thing I've got in the mail in the year's mind,

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00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: you I don't clear the box? Do you not think devices,

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Speaker 2: Mike and social media has a bearing on children's behavior

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00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: in school attendance this year these days and they wouldn't

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Speaker 2: thirty years. I think that's probably val a fair point.

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Speaker 2: Back to the immigration When are we going to get

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00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: this sorted out? So I'm reading a fascinating piece yesterday

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Speaker 2: where the person who runs immigration in this country admits

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00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: that what they're doing is pretty much useless. Eleven weeks

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00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: for employer accreditation, twelve weeks for a job check, four

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00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 2: months for a work visa. I'm not proud of that

1111
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: in any way. I admit it's not good enough. And

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Speaker 2: I can assure you that the team we're working with

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00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: alongside the minister is doing everything we can. This is

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Speaker 2: Alison McDonald, who's the Immigration New Zealand head. But they're

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00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: talking to all sorts of people who just literally they

1116
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 2: claim their businesses are going to fall over what worries me.

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Speaker 2: There was one example of a person who wanted a

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Speaker 2: sales manager for a bar. Now, I'm all for immigration.

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00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: I love immigration. I think immigration's fantastic for all sorts

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Speaker 2: of reasons. But is it true to say that you

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00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 2: can only bring a sales manager in from offshore? The

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00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: claim being they couldn't find a sales manager and if

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Speaker 2: they couldn't get a sales manager because of all the delays,

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00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: their business was going to go under. Is that really true?

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00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 2: So all you need is a sales manager. You're not

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00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: after a magician, it's just a sales manager. And you're

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00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: telling me in all of New Zealand there's not a

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Speaker 2: single person you can hire locally available. You've got to

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Speaker 2: bring someone in prom ovacies. But in that, I suppose

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00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: is the complication of immigration settings. Anyway, they talk to

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00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: a guy called Tobias who's an advisor, and he says,

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00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: not just it's all over the place. Bigger companies at

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00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: the moment tend to be saying we don't see the

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Speaker 2: point in renewing accreditation because you've got to have be

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Speaker 2: accredited as an employer, or we don't believe it's worth

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Speaker 2: engaging in the process. Skilled people they're not bothering with

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Speaker 2: New Zealand anymore. This is once again like the tourism,

1138
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: like all the other issues we've gotten, foreign investment. You know,

1139
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: we're just not seen as a cool place. They don't

1140
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: like us. The world just doesn't like the cut of

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00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: our GiB. At the moment, skilled people they're not bothering

1142
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 2: with New Zealand anymore. There's better options elsewhere. The application

1143
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: fees have massively increased. The systems really are cain and

1144
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: challenging for employers and migrants, and there's been so much

1145
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: change that a lot of people are just going, I'm

1146
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 2: just going to go elsewhere. So New Zealand Inc. Doesn't

1147
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: have a particularly good reputation. What worries me about this

1148
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 2: is that probably the most competent minister the current government has,

1149
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Speaker 2: in the form of Erica Stanford's in chargeable of this

1150
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: and they've been in power now for a year and

1151
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm still reading reports it's about what a basket case

1152
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: it is, and the head of the basket case admits

1153
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: it's a basket case. So things need to change in quickly.

1154
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 2: Turn away from it, breaks with news given away from it.

1155
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: So Rugby might be on a bit of a revival.

1156
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 2: Role player registration numbers and new numbers. Registrations are up

1157
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: six percent on the year. We got one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty six thousand registered players across the country Heartland provinces.

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00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: They're run setting new records, which is good. Now the

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Speaker 2: ends it ours Community Rugby general manager Steve Lancaster with

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Speaker 2: us good morning morning, Mike. Tell you what your If

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00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 2: you watch the MPC final, which I did, that makes

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00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: you want to play rugby, doesn't it.

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Speaker 11: Would hope. So, I mean we had we had two

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Speaker 11: finals and two weeks that went to extra time. So

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Speaker 11: across the I think across the Fire Palmer Cup, the

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Speaker 11: Heartland Championship in the NPC, we we've had some great

1168
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Speaker 11: advertisements for the community game in the last month.

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Speaker 2: What what drives registration.

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Speaker 11: The participants experience more than anything, right, and so then

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 11: that speaks to attention as much as anything. But if

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00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 11: people are having a good time and coming back, they're

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Speaker 11: really telling other people about it, speaking positively about the game,

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Speaker 11: and that draws more people. So a lot of our

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Speaker 11: focus is on ensuring that our participants, where they players, coaches, referees,

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Speaker 11: volunteers are enjoying their experience.

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Speaker 2: And is it school or is it club?

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Speaker 11: It's all of that and the numbers that we've released

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00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 11: this week, we've seen growth across all segments really pleasingly.

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Speaker 11: We've seen just over five percent increase in teenage boys,

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Speaker 11: which is an area that is often called out as

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00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 11: a declining area for Station, but we're also seeing club

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00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 11: growth across the spectrum as well.

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Speaker 2: Steve, That's exciting, isn't it. And in the Heartland, is

1185
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: it different and you're seeing success there because of the

1186
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: community aspect of it or not?

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Speaker 11: Yeah? I think so. I mean the numbers across the

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00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 11: Heartled the unions are at a record high, So we've

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Speaker 11: got more people playing rugby and Heartland provinces than ever

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Speaker 11: have before. And that's really exciting. And I think that

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00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 11: is true that there's a slightly different experience in Rugby

1192
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 11: holds a slightly different place than those communities. So we're

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Speaker 11: really pleased with that with God as well.

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00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 2: So have you turned the tide or was the tide

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00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: never needing turning? Because the reputation or the myth or

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00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 2: the whatever you want to call it, was that rugby's dying.

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00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 2: People don't play it anymore, they all get injured, Mum

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 2: and dad can't take you across to the game, so

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Speaker 2: the whole thing's in trouble. Was that ever true?

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Speaker 11: No, I don't think so. I think the rhetoric of

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00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 11: that outweighed the reality, if we're honest. Although look, we

1202
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Speaker 11: don't shy away from the fact that we have had

1203
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 11: declining numbers in some segments, and so it's nice to

1204
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 11: see them all rebounding after COVID. But you've touched on it.

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00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 11: There's perceptions, particular perceptions around injury that actually just aren't accurate,

1206
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 11: and so a lot of our work now is on

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00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 11: ensuring that we're putting factual information out there about those

1208
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 11: sort of things as well.

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Speaker 2: And do you see the connection between more people playing

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00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 2: and the All Blacks the elite level of the game,

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00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 2: or are they completely separate things. A great player is

1212
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: going to be a great player, whether you're a bunch

1213
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: of kids play it at school.

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Speaker 11: No, we do see a connection, and that's something we've

1215
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 11: actually we've debated a lot internally, is whether in fact

1216
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 11: that the long term success of the All Blacks dependent

1217
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 11: on the game being you know, the game of choice

1218
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 11: for these cylinders. But where we've blended. Is that it

1219
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 11: is that you know, it can only enhance the prospects

1220
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 11: of the All Blacks continuing to an on the world stage,

1221
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 11: that more people are playing the game at all levels.

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00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 2: I think that's true. Steve go well, Steve Lancaster ends

1223
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 2: at our community Rugby general manager. Looking forward to the weekend,

1224
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: of course in Britain, brought back memories. There are the

1225
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: surely under sevens. Those were the days Mike got accredited

1226
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: employer status two days after applying. New employee straight to

1227
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: residency in three months. Holdup was medical counsel, but after

1228
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 2: a phone call that came through quickly. This is a

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: third overseas employee we've employed and the system works. Takes

1230
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: a few months, but then so did finding the right employee.

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00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: We have a very reliable immigration consultant. That's the important part.

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: There you go, hold my beer. Clash of stories. Who's

1233
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: right now? Elbow Alban easy con't wait to catch up

1234
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 2: with Steve Price. Elbow, as I alluded to on the

1235
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 2: program yesterday, isn't a whirled of pain because he was

1236
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 2: busy ringing Ellen Joyce getting upgrades for himself and his

1237
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 2: family for personal trips on Airlines at Quantas and he

1238
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: yesterday was sort of asked about this and he got

1239
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: all teaching and he started looking to blame Dutton and

1240
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: every other politician. But of course, and he said, it's

1241
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: all the claud told a Clad it's old a Clad.

1242
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: But declaring what you did wrong doesn't make it right,

1243
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 2: of course. So anyway, more on at the sleep Price

1244
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: later in the morning. But politics Wednesday, it is next.

1245
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 16: Demanding the answers from the decision makers.

1246
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 1: The mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate, your local

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Speaker 1: experts across residential, commercial and rural news talks head be

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Speaker 1: baby Dad.

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Speaker 17: In a soler soon and a hard box car with

1250
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Speaker 17: a seatbell around his neck and the needle in his

1251
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 17: arm were smokeouting the cocking up the hound convenience shows.

1252
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 2: I bought a cup and of grounds to eat off him.

1253
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: Usconator is the name of the album Johnny Pops Chamelion

1254
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 2: Halsey mates. I'm not calling it that. I don't know

1255
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: much about her, but that's what they're calling to you

1256
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: as we pick. She's got a thing Letter to God

1257
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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four, Leader to God nineteen eighty three.

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Speaker 6: In case they do three reason Leader to.

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Speaker 2: God nineteen ninety eight. Not very much used to it

1260
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 2: with the way they're giving the New Zealm post at

1261
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: the moment. But eighteen tracks of New Politics Wednesday. It

1262
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: is seven minutes past day. Kieren mcinnulty is in once

1263
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: again for the EPs. Jinny Anderson and Mark Mitchell is

1264
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 2: with us as well. Gentlemen, good morning to you a mate. Now,

1265
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: Karen without I don't want to get into this. You know,

1266
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 2: it's not your job to defeat. Can you explain Jinny

1267
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: and her action? Sometimes? Can you sort of what's going

1268
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: on there? Do you reckon?

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 21: Well, I assume you're referring to the recent mistake that

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Speaker 21: she made by sharing that Facebook post or Instagram post. Yeah, yeah, No,

1271
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Speaker 21: I can't explain that. I neither can she. She said

1272
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 21: it was a mistake. She said she regrets it and

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01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 21: she's apologized, which is the appropriate thing to do.

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01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 2: That is true. I just wonder do you have, like

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01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, classes courses for people going if there's

1276
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: a red flag, a presence of a red flag, the

1277
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: thought of a red flag, you know, this might get

1278
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 2: you any of those sort of advice floating around the

1279
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: Labour caucus at any point in time.

1280
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Speaker 14: Oh.

1281
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 21: Look, it is appropriate that she apologized, and it's appropriate

1282
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 21: that she regrets doing it. I'm not going to shy

1283
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 21: away from that. But I don't think we should make

1284
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 21: this out to be worthy of those sorts of courses.

1285
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 21: I mean, at the end of the day, it was

1286
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 21: a shared post. If she'd said this to the king

1287
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 21: or said this in person about the King, then that

1288
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 21: would be very serious. But sharing a post and then

1289
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 21: regretting it doesn't warrant those sorts of things.

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01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:53,959
Speaker 12: Mate.

1291
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: Are you on social media?

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Speaker 14: Mark?

1293
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 22: Yes, But I'm not a big The great frustrations for

1294
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 22: our social media team is that I'm not as president

1295
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 22: as they think I should be. Maybe it's a good

1296
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 22: thing with yeah, yeah, I just think Look with Joenny,

1297
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Speaker 22: I just think people judge it for themselves. I mean,

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Speaker 22: you know, focused on the things that matter, right, the

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Speaker 22: kings pants.

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Speaker 14: So it's all a bit ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: There it is. Do you you sound funny? You're not

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Speaker 2: in the country, Have you got a cold?

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Speaker 14: Or I have got a little bit of a view

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Speaker 14: what he called I'm not into.

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Speaker 2: The okay, are you on the pseudo ep for Dream?

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Speaker 14: No, you're not.

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Speaker 21: I might gro today he doesn't need the thirty push

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Speaker 21: ups a day, mikeel.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is true, Karen. And have you done yet?

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Speaker 2: Market's ten past six. Would you cracks through the thirty yet?

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Speaker 22: I haven't done them yet, but at six o'clock in

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Speaker 22: the morning over here, So I'll do them after we've

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Speaker 22: had our chat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can you film them? Put them on social media?

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Speaker 14: Yeah? I thought about doing that, actually, Karen. I am

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Speaker 14: way of the hotel.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm excited almost to see you seemingly backing the

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Speaker 2: government on this building consent stuff. Broadly speaking, it makes sense,

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Speaker 2: doesn't it.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it does, And it was something that I've been

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Speaker 21: personally speaking with the Master Plumbers about for some time

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Speaker 21: and have held some sympathy for their position there. I mean,

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Speaker 21: you've got guys that many of their members aren't just plumbers.

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Speaker 14: But are also guessed for it as as well.

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Speaker 21: So for one of their trade they're able to self certify,

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Speaker 21: and for another they're not. And we mustn't forget that

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Speaker 21: the leaky building saga that we went through wasn't the

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Speaker 21: fault of plumbers. But we also need to and reasonably

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Speaker 21: express potential concerns to make sure we get the balance

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Speaker 21: right here, you know, We've got world class trades people

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Speaker 21: in this country, but they've been plagued by cowboys for

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Speaker 21: as long as they've been around, and we can't let

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Speaker 21: that integrity be undermined. And we also can't put homeowners

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Speaker 21: and the site here because they've already suffered enough through

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Speaker 21: Vicky building. So there is a balance that I think

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Speaker 21: we can strike and it's reasonable to point it out

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Speaker 21: that way.

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Speaker 2: Right, would you see yourself navigating safely through this mark?

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Speaker 14: Well? I agree. I just think that there is a

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Speaker 14: balance here.

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Speaker 22: But the one thing that we do have to do

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Speaker 22: as a country is we have to look at sensible

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Speaker 22: ways and making it easier and cheaper to build houses.

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Speaker 22: And I look, and I agree with Kieran, is that

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Speaker 22: we have world class trades people that can be trusted,

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Speaker 22: and right now some of them are. They can self certify,

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Speaker 22: So you know Chris Pink is working through that in

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Speaker 22: a careful way.

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Speaker 2: How do I does it not put the onus on

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Speaker 2: me the punter? So you go along with a JUJ

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Speaker 2: Gardener on earlier on so Juj Gardener got a good reputation,

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Speaker 2: I go to JJ Gardener. I can feel confident at

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Speaker 2: this self certifying. What if I go down to Bob.

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Speaker 2: Bob seems like a nice guy, but Bob turns out

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Speaker 2: to be a croc.

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Speaker 22: How do I tell, yeah, I mean that's what That's

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Speaker 22: exactly what Kieren's sort of talking about us. How do

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Speaker 22: we still have all the ability for consumers to be

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Speaker 22: able to sort of check that out and make sure

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Speaker 22: they are dealing someone that's reputable in a proper trades

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Speaker 22: person that will actually do a good job.

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Speaker 14: But look that I'm not in that detail.

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Speaker 22: Obviously it's christ Pink's line of work, but I think

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Speaker 22: that does have.

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Speaker 14: To be addressed.

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Speaker 21: Bring indemnity insurance is crucial, Like ultimately, if people meet

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Speaker 21: certain criteria that gives consumers confidence, then we'll be able

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Speaker 21: to move forward. If that's not there, or it's wishy washy,

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Speaker 21: or there's loopholes, that's where things can fall over. So

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Speaker 21: at the moment, the government's put out a consultation document,

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Speaker 21: and I imagine people will engage with that. We certainly will,

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Speaker 21: And you know, I've got a lot of time for

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Speaker 21: Chris Penky's a reasonable guy and I think he will

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Speaker 21: work with us to try and get this right. Everyone

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Speaker 21: wants certainty, and this is a good way to go

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Speaker 21: about it when you work together.

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Speaker 2: Brief break, brief break, More in the Moment. Kurreen Macanulty

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Speaker 2: Mike Mitchell to the team.

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Speaker 1: Past the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: Power It by News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zippy Talks sixteen Past Day Politics Wednesday, Curra Mcinaughty and

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell with us. Mark, when you call the Mongrel

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Speaker 2: mob idiots yesterday? What do you call them? Were you

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Speaker 2: calling them media from Sydney or did you call them

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Speaker 2: idiots and Wellington then leave for Sydney, because I'm sure

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Speaker 2: I saw you in Willington.

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Speaker 14: I was, but I called them idiots from Sydney.

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Speaker 22: So its purely though the question the journalist asked me

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Speaker 22: or sort of put forward some of the behavior that

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Speaker 22: they're exhibiting around you know, seek Hiland, barking like dogs

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Speaker 22: and knocking on people, you know, hitting people's windows and

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Speaker 22: abusing members of the public, and I said, yeah, it's

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Speaker 22: pretty symptomatic of the antisocial behavior these idiots engage in,

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Speaker 22: so which I stand by.

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Speaker 2: And having said that though, because the Prime Minister was

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Speaker 2: asked and I watched that yesterday and he was said,

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Speaker 2: you're on and the police are on it. When everyone's

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Speaker 2: on it, it's all fantastic. But what I saw from

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Speaker 2: what they were doing is no one's on it. They

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Speaker 2: sort of ran rampant when nuts went home and you

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Speaker 2: guys just wander around going, oh, don't worry, we're we're

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Speaker 2: on top of the gangs. They didn't seem to be

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Speaker 2: on top of the gangs at all.

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Speaker 14: Caught the opposite.

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Speaker 22: For the last twelve months they have been controlled. They're

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Speaker 22: being print now.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about yesterday.

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Speaker 14: Around these game.

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Speaker 22: CoV was Yeah, I know, it was just to carry

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Speaker 22: on what they've been doing for twelve months.

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Speaker 14: Is they had plenty of police resources there the roads.

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Speaker 22: Yes, the police warned the day before that there's going

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Speaker 22: to be conditioned because when you get a lot of

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Speaker 22: vehicles coming into an area, then that happens. But they

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Speaker 22: kept the traffic flowing. There were no risks because there

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Speaker 22: was no illegal behavior. Yes, there was a bit of

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Speaker 22: disorder around dooble stuff and.

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Speaker 14: Things like that.

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Speaker 22: The police will follow up on that, but fundamentally they

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Speaker 22: do the outstanding job of controlling these convoys. Normally they

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Speaker 22: just come and take over roads, drive into oncoming traffic,

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Speaker 22: abuse in ciminate all sorts of stuff, but the police

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Speaker 22: really did handle it very well used today.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon that's true, Karen, I do.

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Speaker 21: I think the police do an exceptional job with the

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Speaker 21: resources that they've got. We've had an incident and wided

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Speaker 21: up recently where the police that us proud and basically

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Speaker 21: managed to deal with an incredibly serious situation that could

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Speaker 21: have been life threatening, and I think actually the way

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Speaker 21: the police handed it was able to preserve life because

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Speaker 21: it could have got out of hand really quickly with

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Speaker 21: many people breaking cars and bumping into people trying to

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Speaker 21: do skids, et cetera.

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Speaker 14: These board races and spectators.

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Speaker 21: It's a real worry, particularly when crowds outnumber the police

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Speaker 21: that are on hand, and the reality is that you

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Speaker 21: won't be able to have the number of police required

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Speaker 21: at any given time in a town like Mastered. The

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Speaker 21: solution to that is ensuring that communication is strong and intelligent,

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Speaker 21: sharing is strong so that resources can be shifted when

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Speaker 21: it's required. But those local police that dealt with that

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Speaker 21: recently did an exceptional job.

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Speaker 22: They're running big operations against these guys, Mike, and I

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Speaker 22: think Qan raises a really good point in relation to

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Speaker 22: our polices that I was at an awards ceremony recently.

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Speaker 22: We're most of the awards handed out to police officers

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Speaker 22: for saving lives. We don't often talk about that. It's

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Speaker 22: not always visible to the public. And by the way,

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Speaker 22: one of them was saving the life of an offender.

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Speaker 22: So they just we should be very proud of our

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Speaker 22: police service. They do an outstanding job, and they are

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Speaker 22: making hard running operations and really are starting here on

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Speaker 22: top of this boy racer and the games, and I'm

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Speaker 22: really proud of the what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Karen. I watch parlor, I watch question Time,

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Speaker 2: and I see you stand up a lot, and I'm

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Speaker 2: to say, point of order, mister speaker, point of order.

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Speaker 2: All that sort of stuff is brownly ruining question time.

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Speaker 14: No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 21: I have a really good working relationship with the Speaker.

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Speaker 21: In fact, I think if you look back to previous parliaments,

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Speaker 21: people in my role, the shadow leader of the House role,

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Speaker 21: actually stood up for more points of order. I've got

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Speaker 21: to the point where I'd like to think that if

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Speaker 21: I do stand up for a point of order, it's

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Speaker 21: because I have a genuine point. It's not because I'm

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Speaker 21: trying to make a political point. That's not my style

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Speaker 21: because you want to be taken seriously and at the

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Speaker 21: end of the day, points of order are there to

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Speaker 21: raise a question of parliamentary privilege, of which I'm learning

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Speaker 21: a lot, and I like to think that we've got

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Speaker 21: a good working relationship.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about you, Mark? I mean, you spend a

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Speaker 2: lot of time in so Knee and not in the House.

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Speaker 2: And every time I see Luxe and how, I say,

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Speaker 2: why aren't you opening the house up? Whether whether anyone

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Speaker 2: supports your government or not. You've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: work on and you can only pass law if the

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Speaker 2: house is open. And the house never seems to be open.

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Speaker 14: Well, what does a spell the rumor that I spend

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Speaker 14: a lot of time in Sydney? I don't.

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Speaker 22: I think that I'm over here to the point of mate,

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Speaker 22: that they had to show last night at the Sydney

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Speaker 22: oper House. But look, Karen's that You're right. He does

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Speaker 22: his job as the opposition leader of the House. He

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Speaker 22: has to raise points of order because he has to

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Speaker 22: try and make sure the opposition are given a fair

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Speaker 22: crack in the house.

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Speaker 14: I think Jerry does an outstanding job as a speaker.

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Speaker 22: He's got grevitas and you know, and it's a boisterous

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Speaker 22: house at times, and sometimes it should be. It's a

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Speaker 22: place where there should be some pretty boorchous debaate going on. Look,

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Speaker 22: there's a bit of ben that goes on between Kieran

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Speaker 22: and Eyes that we score each other in terms of

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Speaker 22: how many how successful he's on with his points of ordering,

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Speaker 22: and he reminds me how unsuccessfully with my points for order.

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Speaker 14: Good study, It's true, that's true.

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Speaker 21: But look, it's not to say that we're not happy

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Speaker 21: with the behavior of certain members and ministers. But the

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Speaker 21: Christian was about the speaker, and I think he's doing

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Speaker 21: a good job.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good stuff. Nice to see you both appreciate a

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Speaker 2: very much. Care and Macinaulty travel well. Mark appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell Carera Macinulty with Politics Wensday for another week

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Speaker 2: eight twenty.

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Speaker 2: The rain drover, the rain drover villar specifically not just

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Speaker 2: a vehicle, closest thing to luxury you're going to come by.

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Speaker 2: So if you're into cars, you know that the rain

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Speaker 2: The Lasky like, what about the pictures of the gang

1528
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 2: members not wearing helmets. That's the stuff they follow up on.

1529
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: So they take the photos, run the video, have a

1530
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 2: look at it. Round you up at a later stage

1531
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,000
Speaker 2: as opposed to, you know, interrupting the whole thing at

1532
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 2: the time. A lot of good feedback on Kira macinulty bliming,

1533
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: I'm actually starting to like kieren refreshing. Why isn't Kurrying

1534
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 2: the leader of a Kiren the leader of the Labour parties?

1535
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 2: Very good, Mike, very refreshing to hear Mark and Kieran

1536
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: on today. Could actually hear some of the chat, Mike,

1537
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: Kieran might well be the only grown up in the

1538
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: Labour Party. My word, this is refreshing. These two are

1539
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 2: being fair and respectful. Gives me faith from the system. Mike,

1540
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: what party is Kierenan? Sounds all too reasonable, Mike, of Kieran,

1541
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 2: it was the leader, they'd have a very good chance

1542
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 2: of winning the next election. Very straightforward. One thing I

1543
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,600
Speaker 2: didn't have time for this morning, and it got a

1544
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: little bit of coverage. I think over the weekend sometime

1545
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: I can't remember, but there's a private members bill and

1546
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: I think it's yet to be pulled. I don't think

1547
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 2: it has been pulled. It's in the biscuit tin as

1548
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 2: they say. It's the act MP Simon Court and he

1549
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 2: wants to get rid of these these trusts, alcohol trusts

1550
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,959
Speaker 2: places like west Auckland and in Southland. And I didn't realize,

1551
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 2: but the one in Southland goes back to the forties.

1552
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: The Invercargol Trust, the Licensing Trust was set up in

1553
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 2: nineteen forty four. My tower is set up in nineteen

1554
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 2: fifty five, and a couple of the Auklam ones were

1555
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: set up in the seventies. His argument is that it

1556
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: stifles competition, the prices are too high. The counter argument

1557
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 2: to that is there's some control over how much booze

1558
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: is in the community, and of course there's far too

1559
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 2: much booze in the community generally at retail level. And

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01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,840
Speaker 2: of course a lot of the money goes back into

1561
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: community good and services and projects and stuff like that.

1562
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: So there's like all, there's good on both sides. But

1563
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 2: his argument is if he pulls the thing about the

1564
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: members bill, is would he have the numbers? Would national

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01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 2: support something like that? So if I remember next week,

1566
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 2: I might try and get a get a vibe for it. Meantime,

1567
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: scandal time in Australia, they got the same problems. A

1568
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 2: couple of retailers one to ask Steve about their going

1569
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: bust or have gone bust or gone into administration, so

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01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 2: they got their own retail problems at the moment. And

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01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: of course Elbow and his business of upgrades with Allan Joyce.

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Speaker 2: More shortly, your.

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Speaker 2: Mike read the West Talk and Trust. If they were

1577
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 2: doing such a great job and the community and keeping

1578
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 2: alcohol off the streets, then why don't we have them everywhere?

1579
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 2: It's a not unreasonable question, Mike. The Trust and the

1580
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: Cargills crippled the hospow industry. It's an old argument, it's

1581
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 2: not even a new argument. And we all know the

1582
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 2: argument around liquor licensing. And they put money into the community.

1583
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 2: But then again you've got restricted competition, then you've got

1584
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: the price issues and stuff. All I'm saying is there's

1585
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: a private member's bill and it may well get pilled up,

1586
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: but just be interesting to see whether anything would actually

1587
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: happen to it or not. Twenty three minutes away from.

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Speaker 2: And I strates to do post morning to you, good

1591
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 2: a dad. I was watching Albanezy trying to defend himself

1592
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 2: yesterday by saying everything had been declared, and I thought,

1593
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 2: that's not answering the question, mate, and you know it.

1594
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: And then he started raising Dutton and private planes and stuff.

1595
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: What is it about him that he doesn't have the

1596
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 2: this somehow, in some way is going to come back

1597
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: and bite me in the bum in a major way.

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Speaker 12: Not sure I can even answer that question. Watching that

1599
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 12: same train repress conference yesterday, I just could not believe it.

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01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 12: I mean, he was being asked direct questions, did you

1601
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 12: ever bring up Allen Joyce nast an upgrade? It then

1602
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 12: waffled on about two flights that were completely different from

1603
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 12: the ones that are causing him trouble. The ones that

1604
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 12: are causing him trouble are private flights on holidays, got

1605
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 12: nothing to do with government business. That's point number one.

1606
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 12: So the flights that everyone wants to know about. And

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01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 12: a simple question, did you directly lobby Alan Joyce the

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01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 12: SEO to get an upgrade or you know the way how.

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01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 14: This all works?

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01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 12: Fuck you go by an economy ticket if you've got

1611
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 12: contacts within the airline, you hope that you can possibly

1612
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 12: get a vacant business class or an international flight that's

1613
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 12: first class seat Albanies. He wouldn't answer that question now,

1614
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 12: he could have just said no, because I imagine the

1615
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,759
Speaker 12: way this would have worked, certainly now that he's PM,

1616
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 12: would be that someone in his office ring someone in

1617
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 12: Condis and that's the way that works. But the problem

1618
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 12: he has is he was either Transport Minister under Kevin

1619
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:49,480
Speaker 12: Rudd and Juliet Gillard, and then he was opposition Transport spokesman,

1620
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 12: went in opposition, and then he was Transport Minister again,

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01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 12: then he was Prime Minister. So that's different from you,

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01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 12: Joe blow the public getting an upgrade because he has

1623
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 12: influence over what the airline can and can't do and

1624
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 12: over airline policy. And this all comes back to that

1625
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 12: decision last year that not many people could understand when

1626
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 12: Katar tried to get more plugs into Australia and they

1627
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 12: were told by the current government, headed by Anthony Albanize

1628
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 12: that no, we're not going to let you do that.

1629
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 12: We don't think that the competition requires it. So he

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01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 12: hasn't answered the questions Peter Dutton, I mean Peter Dutton's

1631
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 12: now said oh, well, he should you turn himself into

1632
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 12: the Anti Corruption commisional. He's not going to do that.

1633
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 12: And Anthony Abanize, as you said yesterday, went on about

1634
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 12: Peter Dutton flying on Gina Rhinhart's private yet, well, Anthony

1635
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 12: Albanezi flew to a place very close to where I'm

1636
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 12: sitting right now on trucking magnet Lindsay Fox's private helicopter

1637
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 12: have a barbecue with Dan Andrews, the then premier. So

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01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 12: he's in a world of pain. Interestingly, I woke up

1639
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 12: earlier this morning thinking about your Prime Minister, who of

1640
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 12: course would know all about this because he ran an

1641
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 12: airline and you imagine how many people used to ring

1642
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 12: up Prime Minister luxe and then say can I have

1643
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 12: an upgrade money? He would be laughing his head off

1644
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 12: about all of this.

1645
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 2: Do you get to see it's a weird thing. I'm

1646
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 2: sure you're following the starma thing in Britain as well,

1647
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 2: where they you know, he's getting free suits and his

1648
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: wife's getting dresses and they're picking up free glasses reading glasses,

1649
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 2: and it's like it doesn't happen here. It's like you

1650
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: just don't get that sort of thing. And it's just

1651
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 2: it's sort of foreign to us. It's too you know,

1652
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: you're in an exalted position at the best of times.

1653
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 2: To think you can ring somebody up and say put

1654
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: me at the front of the plane, mate, and that

1655
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: not come back and haunt you as seems astonishing to me.

1656
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, particularly when you often run the line that you know,

1657
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 12: how remarkable it is that I'm Prime Minister, given I

1658
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 12: grew up in social housing in Western Sydney with a

1659
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 12: single mom who had no money. This is not the

1660
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 12: first time that Anthony Albanye has had this sort of issue.

1661
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 12: I mean, then you know, you don't have to go

1662
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,600
Speaker 12: back what three weeks and he's entitled to buy a

1663
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 12: four point three million dollar beach house. But we're in

1664
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 12: the middle of a house in crisis, in the middle

1665
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 12: of a cost of living crisis. So I don't know,

1666
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 12: maybe when you do come out of you know, a

1667
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 12: not so privileged background, he was hardly underprivileged, and you're

1668
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 12: a professional politician for thirty five years, maybe it just

1669
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 12: goes to your head.

1670
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 14: I don't know.

1671
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: Amazing this COVID report, I mean it's not a surprise,

1672
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: but what one what are they going to do with it?

1673
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 2: And will they learn any real lessons. And two do

1674
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: they have any confidence that in the next pandemic anyone's

1675
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 2: going to follow any instructions at all?

1676
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 12: Well, the question, the answer to all those questions is no.

1677
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 12: It will end up in the bottom drawer of some

1678
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 12: minister's office. Interestingly, the PM yesterday didn't was not the

1679
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 12: person who released it. It's an eight hundred and eighty

1680
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 12: eight page report. Mark Butler, the Health Minister, was the

1681
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 12: man that came out and talked about, how you know,

1682
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 12: during the pandemic we weren't ready for it. It was

1683
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 12: called a forensic assessment. I don't know that it was

1684
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 12: that forensic. Interestingly, when they commissioned it, they did not

1685
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 12: ask the people running this investigation into the COVID response

1686
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 12: what they thought of things like state boarder closures, shut

1687
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 12: down of schools and playgrounds. But the report itself came

1688
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 12: out and said, well, that was not a good thing

1689
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 12: to do. It's eight hundred and sixty eight pages. I

1690
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 12: should say you noted this report that they closed schools

1691
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 12: which quote had a significant impact on the mental health

1692
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 12: of children despite and there's no real criticism in there. Interesting,

1693
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 12: they are no names about the politicians like Daniel Andrews,

1694
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 12: like Anastasia Palache, like Mark McGowan in wa no criticism

1695
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 12: of the way they handled it. What we wanted to

1696
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 12: know was, you know, should they have been telling us

1697
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 12: that we couldn't go out of our house at after

1698
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 12: nine o'clock at night? You can only walk for an

1699
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 12: hour and with one person? I mean, you know what

1700
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 12: it did for me when I started reading the assessment

1701
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 12: of it, it just took me back they did nine years.

1702
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:55,959
Speaker 2: Got I agree more? Well, the person who ran our pandemic,

1703
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 2: of course, got a Dame hood out of it and

1704
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: is now sitting at Harvard wandering around the world collecting

1705
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: twenty thirty thousand dollars every times he speaks publicly about it.

1706
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 2: And you've still got you still got mandates on you.

1707
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 12: Well, this came out and coincidentally on the day that

1708
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 12: report came out, So you've got the son of bush

1709
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 12: fire season about to start and dozens of unvaccinated firefighters

1710
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 12: are Can you believe this still banned from going to

1711
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 12: work three years after being stood down without pay? Now

1712
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 12: that's just extraordinary. Thirty nine operational firefighters and ten other

1713
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 12: staff who work at Fire Rescue Victoria are still prohibited

1714
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 12: from working because they're unvaccinated. I mean, that's just ridiculous.

1715
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 12: It's the last public service agency in Victoria to do that.

1716
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 12: But when you trust, when you need firefighters, who now

1717
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 12: asks you if you're vaccinated or not?

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01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: Exactly? Hey, listen, I mentioned Harald's to you last week,

1719
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: who went into administration, the well known clothing shop Mosaic

1720
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 2: brands who run they're here as well, of course, and

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Speaker 2: they're running Katies and Millers and non d and all that.

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Speaker 2: They got three thousand employees there into administration. What's your

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Speaker 2: assessment of retail in Australia generally? Are you in trouble?

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Speaker 12: Yeah? I think so. And those two cases are the

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Speaker 12: ones that highlight it most. And that's you know, that's

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Speaker 12: the mid range of clothing retail. So it's not the

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Speaker 12: top well, Harold's at the top end, but what you

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Speaker 12: just mentioned there those other stores are very much mid range.

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Speaker 12: And so it just shows that the economy is still

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Speaker 12: very shaky. People are not going out updating their wardrobe.

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Speaker 12: They can't afford they can't afford to pay their electricity

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Speaker 12: in gas bill. So it comes as no surprise. And interestingly,

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Speaker 12: Jim Charmers the Treasurer Alas Dodger's questions about that, says, oh, well,

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Speaker 12: you know, economy's going okay, we've got a budget surplus.

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Speaker 12: Well that doesn't do any good for anyone who can't

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Speaker 12: afford to put food.

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Speaker 11: On the table.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, all right, mat go well see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. Steve Price out of Australia, by

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Speaker 2: the way, just before we leave their Maya, speaking of retail,

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01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,719
Speaker 2: yesterday signed a nine hundred and fifty million dollar deals

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01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 2: so they're bullish. They bought a bunch of Solomon Lose.

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Speaker 2: Solomon Lose amous as a businessman apart from anything, but

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01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: probably best known here for Peter, Alexander and Smiggle. But

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01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,839
Speaker 2: he also also known here had just jeans, JJ's Portman's

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01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 2: Jackie Dotty. That's the stuff he's sold to Meyer. For

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Speaker 2: the total deals nine hundred million, he collects eighty two million,

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Speaker 2: but they give him shares, and by getting the shares,

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Speaker 2: he ends up on the Meyer board, which I suspect

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Speaker 2: is where he wanted to be. Fourteen away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 1: By News talks.

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Speaker 2: At b eleven away from Niner Housing, Christis, Mike, is

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01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 2: not the wrong time to buy a four point three

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Speaker 2: million dollar house. It's the perfect time. It's probably full

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Speaker 2: and a million bucks. Should we have waited until it

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01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 2: went up again to avoid upsetting a few jealous people.

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Speaker 2: I've done well in life shore to walk around in

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Speaker 2: a Hessian shirt. I think the point that Steve was

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Speaker 2: making and Need you're right. I mean it is the

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Speaker 2: right time, at the perfect time. Of course you buy

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Speaker 2: at the bottom. But it's the optics is what he

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01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: was referring to, not the price of the house.

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Speaker 11: Mike.

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Speaker 2: I did a study in nineteen ninety one on the

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Speaker 2: licensing trusts. It's one of the advantages of having such

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Speaker 2: a large audience. Has anyone don a study on licensing trusts?

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Speaker 2: Who's listening this morning? Oh yes, it turns out to

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Speaker 2: you nineteen ninety one of the licensing trusts. As a

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Speaker 2: largely free marketer, I thought that they would have a

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Speaker 2: limited future, but concluded that without the Masterton wouldn't have

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01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 2: the sol Way, Gore wouldn't have the Croydon, and very

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Speaker 2: unlikely that Invercargo would have the Ascot. As many others

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Speaker 2: in the trust controlled provincial New Zealand. So do we

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01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 2: send the boot sales profits to Australia and allow our

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01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 2: countdown to sell in these areas not so cut and dry.

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Speaker 2: That's a very good point, great insight. By the way.

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Speaker 2: The other thing I was going to raise with Steve,

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Speaker 2: but I can raise with you. And this is my

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01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 2: ongoing thing that you know, for all the green grass

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Speaker 2: allegedly that's in Australia and attracting the tens of thousands

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01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 2: of New Zealanders to that part of the world, not

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01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: only as that retail sector. Dyer yesterday, I'm reading about

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01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: the construction sector boom and bust, zombies, zombie apocalypse Australian

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01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 2: and they've got a housing crisis. Housing is much more

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01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: and we talked about this briefly on the program the

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Speaker 2: other day with people leaving in terms of jobs and

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01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: trades and stuff like that. Buying a house in a

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01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: stree Ralia is for many people, especially in the main centre,

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01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 2: is prohibitively expensive if you want to mind about it here.

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01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: It's even worse in Australia and their housing crisis at

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01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 2: the moment. The problem is no one can afford to build.

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01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 2: The only building going on. There's plenty of cranes about

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01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: the place, but they're all commercial and there are lots

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01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 2: of companies that are in zombie state. Is from KPMG

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01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: Australia yesterday. The number of ASX listed zombies has spiked

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Speaker 2: from thirty one percent in just six months to ninety

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01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 2: four from a ninety four to one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: two companies. A zombie company is a company that still trades,

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01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 2: so in other words, it hasn't gone bust. It's just

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01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 2: they're not doing anything, and they're not doing anything because

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01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: they can't afford to do anything, whether or not you

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01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: can't afford to pay the workers, or no one's building

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01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 2: houses because they can't afford to pay it on a

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01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: per square meter basis. So for all of the roast

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01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 2: tinted glass viewing that's going on, there's a lot going

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Speaker 2: on wrong in Australia. Currently nine away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The mic costing breakfast with.

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Speaker 2: The Range River Flan like our sun works. In the

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01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 2: car industry in Queensland's bottoms dropped out. That's only recent actually,

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01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 2: because I followed the car market in Australia. It's been

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01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 2: going gangbusters up until the last couple of months. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of Australia. I read dumb yesterday the Office Australia as

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Speaker 2: in the television program the local addition, I must say

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01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 2: I saw the promo of it and I thought that

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01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: looks crap. But then yesterday it's on Prime Video. It's

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01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 2: a hit. It's the top show in Australia streaming number

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01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: one and four other territories, which includes New Zealand, Singapore,

1819
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 2: top three and thirty seven countries. Around the world, it's

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01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: in the top five and sixty five countries, and it's

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01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 2: the top ten in one hundred and two countries. So

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01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 2: they've got themselves a gangbuster. So I started watching it

1823
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 2: last night, the actually episode, not the promo, and in

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01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:54,480
Speaker 2: the first five minutes it was it looked okay. Recommendation

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01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 2: take it or leave it. The other one I read yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I read a review and I've seen an episode. My

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01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 2: wife has seen more episodes and she's on it. But

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Speaker 2: got four stars yesterday. Rivals. It's based on Jilly Cooper's

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01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight Rivals book. It's over acted, it's it's

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01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: set and it's on a television station. It's got David Tennant.

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01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: It's quite good.

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Speaker 13: You have you been watching Shrinking, she.

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01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: Does, I don't. I don't find shrinker.

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Speaker 12: I think it's the Seasons, I would say is even

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01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 12: more tightly scripted than the first.

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Speaker 6: And it is funnier, I.

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01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: Think, a more sophisticated than I am.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, A lot of people say that, any.

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01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so that's why she likes it. You like it,

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01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: But I find it just a bit subtle for exactly

1841
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 2: a lot of people say that she doesn't wish she

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01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,160
Speaker 2: married you, though, And I think, and that's the problem.

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01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Five minutes away from nine trending.

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01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Now with chemist Well's keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

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01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 2: I think she says she didn't want to marry. Maybe

1846
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 2: she did. Maybe we all got mixed up. This is CNN.

1847
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 2: Listen to this. This is a bust up. You don't

1848
01:27:58,400 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 2: want to be called Nazis.

1849
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 12: Stop more than table people know by me, I never

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01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 12: called you.

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01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 13: I mean, I'm not seeing her saying.

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01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 12: I'm a of the Palestinians.

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01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 2: I instrum well.

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Speaker 20: I'm hoping you beeper doesn't go off.

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01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:13,559
Speaker 12: The thing is that.

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01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 2: You should know you just said I should be killed.

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01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 2: I know I did not say.

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01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 6: Let me look about TV.

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01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 4: Let me let me just said, you.

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Speaker 19: Guys, are you.

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Speaker 2: Right? So the guy who said I hope you beeper

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Speaker 2: doesn't go off, a guy called Ryan. He's been sacked.

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01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: The guy who was arguing was a guy called his son.

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01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 2: He's still on the show. The woman going oh wow,

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01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: I'll go oh wow. That's Philip, who is the host

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Speaker 2: of the program that's sort of unfolded Yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 8: Our time sounds a bit like Politics Wednesday, simpler to

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01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 8: Politics Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Hey, that is us for this Wednesday. Back tomorrow from

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Speaker 2: six There's always Happy Days.

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