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Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler podcast number ninety ninety seven. Oh my god, So

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Speaker 2: Wednesday next week is going to be our one hundredth show.

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Speaker 2: fantastic show today. Boy oh boy, do we have some

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Speaker 2: good chats about something.

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Speaker 3: Winges Well, actually I wear a bunch of wines, but

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Speaker 3: is that yeah? Yeah, most of the callers were pretty

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Speaker 3: chuffed about life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so and then we're a really good chat actually,

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Speaker 2: and I felt quite empowered for New Zealanders. And also

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Speaker 2: we get into selling dirty old chili's on the side

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Speaker 2: of the side of the street. I say, let me

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Speaker 2: go for it. The health departments is clean up your

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt's Chillies. Look out for that in Mount Edam.

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Speaker 3: That's coming you.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Welcome into the show. It is Friday seven

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Speaker 3: pass one. Hope you're doing well. We ive you're listening

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Speaker 2: Yoday, Tyler Good everyone, Welcome to Friday on Matt and

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Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons.

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Speaker 3: Beg show for you today after three o'clock, as we

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Speaker 3: always do on a Friday. New Zealander of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, if you've got a suggestion for New Zealand

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Speaker 2: panel me yep, there's only one member of the panel.

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Speaker 2: Tyler has he can influence the panel, but he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Ever find sometimes I can, sometimes I can't.

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Speaker 3: We have to hear it, not sitting stone yet, that

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Speaker 3: this with you. This is on the back of what's

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Speaker 3: happening with this signal, messages going a bitter ray and

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Speaker 3: people being included into the group chats that shouldn't have

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Speaker 3: been in there. But just in your own personal life,

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Speaker 3: what messages have you mistakenly sent to the group chat?

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure most of us would have been in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the whole Pete Higsmith thing was you know, unfortunate,

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Speaker 2: and a guy from the Atlantic was joined to the chat,

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Speaker 2: and that's a nightmare for a lot of people. Sure,

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Speaker 2: look there, they're a high upper echelon. These people are,

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Speaker 2: States of America's But even people absolute bottom feeders like

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Speaker 2: me risk a lot in our threads. And I've been

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Speaker 2: involved in a number of thread leaks where someone's been

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Speaker 2: included where they shouldn't be, or someone has fired through

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and sometimes that's worse if you've got message deleted

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Speaker 3: and then you've got more questions coming at you. But

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Speaker 3: that is after three o'clock. After two o'clock. The high

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Speaker 2: If I poison someone, the word will get round and

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Speaker 3: You roll the dice, everybody, you've got to we sign

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Speaker 2: How many times have people been really badly poisoned?

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Speaker 2: Are we just worrying so much about stuff that doesn't

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Speaker 2: Out Look, if a muppet like me is allowed to

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Speaker 3: why apparently we feel so hard done by. In New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: Sixty seven percent of New Zealand is a report moderate

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Speaker 6: When we think about grievance, it's the sense of things

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Speaker 6: when we think of people, that's people's employees, customers, people

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Speaker 3: So rose is a big question why are we so cynical?

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Speaker 3: What is it about New Zealand life? That makes you

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Speaker 2: Is it a lack of gratitude for where they are

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Speaker 2: According to John McLeod in a report from financial advisors Jbware,

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Speaker 3: And you wouldn't know that sharing some of the grumbling

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Speaker 2: So is it just a case of comparison being the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good piece by Roger Partridge's part

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Speaker 3: which is very true. This sort of grievance in our

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what someone else gains has nothing to do with

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Speaker 2: That's always the way in the world. It just appears.

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Speaker 2: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty? Do New Zealanders have reason?

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. Welcome back into the show. Seventeen past one,

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Speaker 3: and we're talking about sixty seven percent of New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: Being angry the wealthy is always a strange thing for me.

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Speaker 2: That's that's surely that's just jealousy, right, because there's always

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Speaker 3: But that is a good point, you know, because you

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Speaker 3: mentioned before that line. It's a great line comparison as

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Speaker 3: the thief of joy. But there will always be someone

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Speaker 3: you consider to have a better life than you, whether

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Speaker 3: this planet, including the likes of Elon Musk, that wouldn't

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Speaker 3: what you heard.

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Speaker 2: It must be hard for you, Tyler, looking over the

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Speaker 2: going I wish I had his good looks, his intelligence

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Speaker 2: and his career. Rob says New Zealand is so far

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 2: Alisa says, if things are worse now than ten years ago,

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Speaker 7: Oh hello, I'm I've just got into my vehic and

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Speaker 7: I've listened to a couple of what people are saying.

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Speaker 7: I've just come in from Texas, Dallas, Texas, and I

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Speaker 2: That's so good to come back home and and just

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Speaker 2: And so when you so, why do you think it is?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, they need to take a trip and then they'll

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Speaker 9: I know upbeat.

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Speaker 7: They've got this attitude, especially the woman. They've got entitlements

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I was thinking about that, you know, when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, then wing about the traffic. Yeah. Oh, one hundred

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Speaker 11: Very good news from the government on the crackdown on

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Speaker 12: I think we had developed a culture in the public

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoon, twenty six pass one and why do we

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Speaker 3: New Zealanders do feel hard done by by the government.

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Speaker 3: They feel hard done by by business and the wealthy

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Speaker 2: Yes, so sixty seventh in news and report moderate to

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Speaker 2: high levels of feeling hard done by fellas. Happiness isn't

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it this text as well. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 2: strange topic, Matt. Where I have been to parts of

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the text, Mark, Diane, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 13: Oh thanks very much. Be I just cheat the navy

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Speaker 3: Diane, just hold there, Diane. We want to hear what

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Speaker 3: that sort of we'll come back to you, Diane.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sorry, Diane, your phone's just breaking up. We couldn't hear,

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Speaker 2: They have nots who can plain and often don't have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one says, guys. We may not live in

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Speaker 2: A lot of people will complain about their life on

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Speaker 14: Oh that's good. I was saying that in Garner. I

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Speaker 14: Their children are dressed in white and they get to

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm Dane. You said that in Ghana there's no

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Speaker 14: But no, they're not hungry.

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Speaker 2: What were you doing over their diet? But if you

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool?

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Speaker 3: So Diane, why do you think New Zealand love to

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Speaker 14: It's a culture like sometimes you have a business and

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Speaker 14: just spreads like wildfire.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you call Diane, that's interesting stuff.

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Speaker 2: I was reading these notes once about and it was

441
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Speaker 2: from a church, from a peasant society, feudal society, you know,

442
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Speaker 2: where people worked the land around a lord and all

443
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Speaker 2: the peasants were in the same state. But interestingly enough,

444
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Speaker 2: and you definitely don't want to go back to the situation.

445
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Speaker 2: I'm not advocating for feudal living. But because they never

446
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Speaker 2: had a chance to be the lord right. Interestingly enough,

447
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Speaker 2: when you read the Church notes when they're writing about

448
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Speaker 2: their complaints, and because all the peasants lived the same life,

449
00:22:45,173 --> 00:22:48,133
Speaker 2: they basically got up, went to sleep all their livestock

450
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Speaker 2: and there slept the night with them and went out

451
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Speaker 2: in the day. And their grandfathers and their great grandfathers

452
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Speaker 2: fathers had done that. They were quite They weren't comparing themselves.

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Speaker 2: They were never unhappy about what other people had because

454
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Speaker 2: everyone had the same It was quite an interesting And

455
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Speaker 2: then when the Black plague came through peers, it's became

456
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Speaker 2: the most valuable thing in the world. So they were

457
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Speaker 2: able to be picked up by other people, and so

458
00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:15,733
Speaker 2: they would go out and then suddenly they were doing

459
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Speaker 2: really well, and then people got really angry. Really, what

460
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Speaker 2: it goes to say, because you know, I'm a huge

461
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Speaker 2: fan of capitalism. I absolutely support it. So I don't

462
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Speaker 2: say I want to get I don't need peasants. I

463
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Speaker 2: certainly wouldn't. I'm not suggesting, although I guess you are

464
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Speaker 2: kind of a peasant to me, but that's by the bytime.

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Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is a round about way of saying.

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Speaker 2: Comparison is the thief of joy, right, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: If they don't have anything really to be envious about

468
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Speaker 3: of your fellow man, then things are pretty good. I mean,

469
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Speaker 3: you know, as you say, you don't want to go

470
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Speaker 3: back quite to that situation. Life is good now.

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Speaker 2: But you can get that position in your mind right now.

472
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Speaker 2: You can choose to compare yourself with billionaires. You can

473
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Speaker 2: choose to compare yourself with someone that's driving a Bentley yep,

474
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Speaker 2: or you could choose to can compare yourself with someone

475
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Speaker 2: that is in a wheelchair. And maybe the fact that

476
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Speaker 2: you can get out of bed and walk to the

477
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Speaker 2: bathroom might be enough for you to feel gratitude and

478
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Speaker 2: not be in the sixty seven percent of people that

479
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Speaker 2: are feeling hard done by in this country.

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Speaker 3: Exactly oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

481
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Speaker 3: to call. We want to hear from you if you

482
00:24:15,613 --> 00:24:17,812
Speaker 3: do feel hard done by? Why what is going on

483
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Speaker 3: that you feel so hard done by? And if you

484
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Speaker 3: are actually eternally grateful for your life in New Zealand,

485
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Speaker 3: we want to hear from you as well. Why are

486
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Speaker 3: we seemingly a bunch of wines Oh eight hundred eighty

487
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Speaker 3: ten eighty is a number call. It is twenty six

488
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Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 15: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

490
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Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble. The Health Minister says

491
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Speaker 15: the government is looking into ways to attract, train and

492
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Speaker 15: retain health workers and making it simpler to register people

493
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Speaker 15: with overseas qualifications. The Finance Minister says New Zealand had

494
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Speaker 15: developed a consultant culture, claiming a lot of money went

495
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Speaker 15: on reports from expensive firms that then sat on a shelf.

496
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Speaker 15: Auckland Council has approved and upgraded eden Park as its

497
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Speaker 15: preferred main stadium option, but isn't offering funding. It's working

498
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Speaker 15: group chairs. Having a council support makes it easier for

499
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Speaker 15: eden Park to go elsewhere for funding. Rocket Lab has

500
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Speaker 15: been added to US Space Forces Launch Vendor pul means

501
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Speaker 15: it can compete for lucrative national security space missions. The

502
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Speaker 15: Department of Conservation is revving up its dooke trapping after

503
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Speaker 15: Ford Tarka had died recently near Queenstown. It has increased monitoring,

504
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Speaker 15: installed more traps, brought in a detected dog and is

505
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Speaker 15: using baited trail cameras. Heyway Tangi their massive machine tunneling

506
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Speaker 15: under Auckland for three years, has finally completed its sixteen

507
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Speaker 15: kilometer wastewater pipeline between point Erin and Mungadam. Has ethical

508
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Speaker 15: investing lost it shined. You can find out more about

509
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Speaker 15: that at inzet Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Heath

510
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Speaker 15: and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie, And we're talking about perceived

512
00:26:03,973 --> 00:26:06,613
Speaker 3: feelings have been hard done by in New Zealand. According

513
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Speaker 3: to a new survey just outside, sixty seven percent of

514
00:26:10,133 --> 00:26:13,453
Speaker 3: us feel hard done by by the government, business and wealthy,

515
00:26:13,733 --> 00:26:18,213
Speaker 3: effectively people that I assume they perceive as doing better

516
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Speaker 3: than themselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well this text sums up kind of what I

518
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Speaker 2: was trying to say before. A thankful person is thankful

519
00:26:23,253 --> 00:26:26,853
Speaker 2: under all circumstances. A complaining soul complains even in paradise.

520
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Speaker 2: That's from Scott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good line.

522
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure if that is original to Scott,

523
00:26:30,653 --> 00:26:34,533
Speaker 2: but very well put. Baldrick always seemed happy, that's true.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very true.

525
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Speaker 2: We always get a black Adder reference on the show

526
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Speaker 2: and it's the same person. I'm up for it. I

527
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Speaker 2: like it too, right, Gillian, welcome to the show your

528
00:26:43,013 --> 00:26:43,493
Speaker 2: thoughts on this.

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Speaker 16: Ah, yeah, hi, guys. I think partly the reason that

530
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Speaker 16: people are in a negative head space is because the

531
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Speaker 16: people above them on the socioeconomic letter, their attitudes and

532
00:27:00,733 --> 00:27:03,293
Speaker 16: their language are framed in such a way to make

533
00:27:03,373 --> 00:27:08,173
Speaker 16: people at the bottom of the letter feel worthless, for example,

534
00:27:08,973 --> 00:27:14,413
Speaker 16: bottom feeders. And if you're on the benefit, you're a

535
00:27:14,493 --> 00:27:20,213
Speaker 16: lazy bludger. And if you're in a low paid job,

536
00:27:21,413 --> 00:27:25,693
Speaker 16: why don't you better yourself? Not realizing that everybody can't

537
00:27:25,773 --> 00:27:28,773
Speaker 16: be a lawyer or a doctor or a politician or whatever.

538
00:27:29,573 --> 00:27:33,333
Speaker 16: Some people do cleaning, and they do it brilliantly well,

539
00:27:33,733 --> 00:27:36,813
Speaker 16: but they are not looked on as valuable members of society.

540
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Speaker 16: And then are those of us that are now too

541
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Speaker 16: old to work and on superannuation. People can't wait for

542
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Speaker 16: us to die basically because we're chewing up too much

543
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Speaker 16: of the of the budget. I just sort of feel like,

544
00:27:58,693 --> 00:28:02,013
Speaker 16: you know, people need to watch their language and stop

545
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Speaker 16: tarring everybody with the same brush. There might be a

546
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Speaker 16: few lazy doll bludges, but the majority of those on

547
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Speaker 16: the benefit don't want to be there.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you're so much for your call, Jillian?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just quickly if she's still there, do you, Julian,

550
00:28:17,813 --> 00:28:18,973
Speaker 3: you yourself you feel like that.

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Speaker 16: Sometimes?

552
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: I worked in low income jobs up until I retired,

554
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Speaker 16: and I always felt like I wasn't appreciated. Because if

555
00:28:33,293 --> 00:28:36,733
Speaker 16: you don't work hard, and you're not working full speed

556
00:28:36,933 --> 00:28:40,853
Speaker 16: every minute of your eighth or whatever our day, then

557
00:28:40,893 --> 00:28:41,493
Speaker 16: you're lazy.

558
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Speaker 3: All right, Julian, thank you very much for giving us

559
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Speaker 3: a call a couple of texts here.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, we might be lucky, but we are not prosperous.

561
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Speaker 2: I'm an old bugger and recall laughing at lequin you

562
00:28:54,453 --> 00:28:57,093
Speaker 2: in Singapore. But look at Singapore now, bring back the

563
00:28:57,133 --> 00:29:00,493
Speaker 2: Canaan schools and goals and think about capital punishment. Where

564
00:29:00,573 --> 00:29:02,613
Speaker 2: are a nation that has too much carrot and not

565
00:29:02,733 --> 00:29:05,333
Speaker 2: enough stick? Here is Dave, so his solution is to

566
00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:07,813
Speaker 2: kill some people. But I mean, you've got to say

567
00:29:07,813 --> 00:29:09,893
Speaker 2: that Singapore obviously we've taught, we seem to talk about

568
00:29:09,893 --> 00:29:11,653
Speaker 2: Singapore quite a lot on the show, but the junta

569
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Speaker 2: definitely has sort of some things out there. I mean,

570
00:29:14,573 --> 00:29:18,453
Speaker 2: freedom isn't isn't necessarily an all time high in Singapore,

571
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Speaker 2: But why are we comparing ourselves to Singapore? I mean

572
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Speaker 2: Singapore is if not, I think Singapore might be the

573
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Speaker 2: richest country GDP per capita It was in twenty twenty three.

574
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Speaker 2: So you're comparing that Singapore, but you're not comparing yourself

575
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Speaker 2: to the one hundred and eighty countries or so that

576
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Speaker 2: are below us. Yeah, you know, how much time do

577
00:29:41,893 --> 00:29:43,453
Speaker 2: you think comparing yourself to Burundi?

578
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Speaker 3: Exactly when you're saying.

579
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Speaker 2: That sixty seven percent of New Zealander is unsatisfied with

580
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Speaker 2: their lot. You know, Burundi not great there exactly, just

581
00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:56,533
Speaker 2: just to grab a random country out of the Barundi

582
00:29:57,293 --> 00:29:58,653
Speaker 2: they've done to you. I don't mean to do a

583
00:29:58,733 --> 00:29:59,773
Speaker 2: drive by on Burundi.

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you feel hard

585
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Speaker 3: done by, why But if you do feel like this

586
00:30:06,533 --> 00:30:08,693
Speaker 3: is paradise in New Zealand, we are actually lucky and

587
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Speaker 3: we need to be a bit more positive. Love to

588
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Speaker 3: hear from you as well. Oh one hundred and eighty

589
00:30:12,013 --> 00:30:15,093
Speaker 3: ten eighty is a number to call it. Eighteen to two.

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Speaker 4: Mattith Tyler Adams with you.

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Speaker 1: As your afternoon rolls on Matt and Taylor Afternoons with

592
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Speaker 1: the Volvo XC ninety attention to detail.

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Speaker 4: And a commitment to comfort news talks, they'd be sixteen

594
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Speaker 4: to two.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the sixty seven percent of New Zealanders

596
00:30:31,493 --> 00:30:34,053
Speaker 2: that feel hard done by. Are they right to feel

597
00:30:34,053 --> 00:30:37,853
Speaker 2: hard done by? Or they unjust simply ungrateful for the

598
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Speaker 2: country they live in. Gillian rang before, and she has

599
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Speaker 2: We've had a dichotomy of responses here. Love Jillian's calls

600
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Speaker 2: his Lynn this text that says, oh my goodness, she

601
00:30:48,453 --> 00:30:50,333
Speaker 2: was a total misery guts. There are a lot of

602
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Speaker 2: us who feel very privileged to have a comfortable lifestyle,

603
00:30:53,093 --> 00:30:55,413
Speaker 2: but have a lot of respect for those not as unfortunate.

604
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Speaker 2: She shouldn't generalize and love everyone together, was what she

605
00:30:58,333 --> 00:31:02,693
Speaker 2: was accusing others of doing. Yeah, I mean in this person,

606
00:31:02,693 --> 00:31:07,613
Speaker 2: says Jillian typifies the problem with attitude. I absolutely dispute

607
00:31:07,613 --> 00:31:10,373
Speaker 2: that wealthier people have those attitudes. They employ others and

608
00:31:10,453 --> 00:31:12,293
Speaker 2: often give a lot to charity to others.

609
00:31:12,453 --> 00:31:17,413
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's the lumping so called wealthy into one group, right, one,

610
00:31:17,733 --> 00:31:20,573
Speaker 3: one big amorphous blob, and saying you're all the same,

611
00:31:20,693 --> 00:31:23,493
Speaker 3: you will hate the poor. It's just categorically not true,

612
00:31:23,693 --> 00:31:26,133
Speaker 3: not true. Zelman, how are you?

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Speaker 5: Oh hey, Yanks, guys.

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Speaker 3: Good and what's your take on this?

615
00:31:33,053 --> 00:31:35,773
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I suppose there's a little bit of both

616
00:31:36,013 --> 00:31:38,253
Speaker 5: with what Jillian was saying and what the texts are

617
00:31:38,293 --> 00:31:42,133
Speaker 5: responding to her. But yeah, I mean, sic sice if

618
00:31:42,173 --> 00:31:47,213
Speaker 5: we're hey, look anyway, I don't feel I've I suppose

619
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Speaker 5: the whole subject is I've got it for the banks.

620
00:31:51,373 --> 00:31:53,453
Speaker 5: It's the banks, you know, they're the ones crushing it,

621
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Speaker 5: us crushing the low. It's socio economic to get on

622
00:31:57,213 --> 00:31:58,733
Speaker 5: the property ladder, to do anything.

623
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Speaker 17: You know.

624
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Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know about you guys, but my

625
00:32:02,573 --> 00:32:05,133
Speaker 5: increase in my interest, just the interest alone, which is

626
00:32:05,373 --> 00:32:08,293
Speaker 5: profit for the bank, changed from three hundred to four

627
00:32:08,773 --> 00:32:13,293
Speaker 5: to eight hundred a fortnight overnight. That's massive. That's like,

628
00:32:13,893 --> 00:32:15,573
Speaker 5: you know, two hundred bucks a week just to the

629
00:32:15,613 --> 00:32:19,053
Speaker 5: bank because because they decided that be nice enough to

630
00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:23,053
Speaker 5: lean us for money or what we got no nobody

631
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Speaker 5: else we can really go to.

632
00:32:24,693 --> 00:32:26,813
Speaker 2: Has that come back down? But has that come back

633
00:32:27,333 --> 00:32:28,093
Speaker 2: down a bit? Zellen?

634
00:32:29,893 --> 00:32:32,293
Speaker 5: No, because it was we had to fix right at

635
00:32:32,293 --> 00:32:34,853
Speaker 5: that point in time, and it was right and before

636
00:32:34,893 --> 00:32:36,973
Speaker 5: the peak came, which we were lucky. So there's a

637
00:32:36,973 --> 00:32:39,333
Speaker 5: lot more people out there doing way worth and the

638
00:32:39,413 --> 00:32:42,933
Speaker 5: figures I just rattled off, you know, and there's massive

639
00:32:42,973 --> 00:32:46,413
Speaker 5: mortgage details going up because of the simple consequence. But

640
00:32:47,213 --> 00:32:48,973
Speaker 5: they're just laughing all the way to the bank.

641
00:32:49,053 --> 00:32:53,813
Speaker 2: The bank is yeah, now, Zelman. In your life, though,

642
00:32:53,853 --> 00:32:56,853
Speaker 2: do you look around and have things that you feel

643
00:32:56,853 --> 00:32:59,173
Speaker 2: grateful for in this country?

644
00:32:59,253 --> 00:33:04,133
Speaker 5: Yeah, my house, My house is not even finished. Yeah, food,

645
00:33:04,253 --> 00:33:08,333
Speaker 5: food on the table. There's a lot more that I've

646
00:33:08,413 --> 00:33:11,813
Speaker 5: feel grateful for. Our scenery. I feel grateful even though

647
00:33:11,853 --> 00:33:15,773
Speaker 5: our rubbish has increased floating around in the streets since

648
00:33:16,613 --> 00:33:19,533
Speaker 5: two thousand and four. I was in Australia working for

649
00:33:21,093 --> 00:33:22,973
Speaker 5: two thousand and three to two thousand and four, a

650
00:33:22,973 --> 00:33:25,613
Speaker 5: little bit earlier when the Warriors made it to the

651
00:33:25,613 --> 00:33:29,773
Speaker 5: final and lost, and you know, the amount of rubbish

652
00:33:29,813 --> 00:33:32,973
Speaker 5: in Australia that you could see. And I'm talking out

653
00:33:32,973 --> 00:33:36,773
Speaker 5: in the outbacks as well. I'm talking highways that are

654
00:33:36,773 --> 00:33:39,093
Speaker 5: in the middle of Australia and there's rubbish that you

655
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Speaker 5: would not believe in. Come back to New Zealand, no

656
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Speaker 5: rubbish floating around, but it has crept in now and

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Speaker 5: over a decade. We're probably not as bad as them,

658
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Speaker 5: but it's noticeable and it's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. For your call. Tell you one thing

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Speaker 2: that you do notice when you come back to New

661
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Speaker 2: Zealand that you feel grateful for is how fresh the

662
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Speaker 2: air is.

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Speaker 3: Oh, such good idea.

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Speaker 2: If you've been spending time in some of the large

665
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Speaker 2: countries around the world that I've been to, the largest cities,

666
00:34:06,613 --> 00:34:08,453
Speaker 2: you come back and you get off the plane, you

667
00:34:08,493 --> 00:34:11,053
Speaker 2: go and you're still You're at the airport. You're at

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00:34:11,093 --> 00:34:13,053
Speaker 2: the airport where there's a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 2: aviation fuel being blasted out, there's a lot of activity,

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Speaker 2: a lot of cars coming through, and you still go.

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Speaker 3: That beautiful New Zealand are suck it in kew that's

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Speaker 3: worth a lot that yere oh eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. There's a couple

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Speaker 3: of techs coming through as well.

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00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:31,773
Speaker 2: Idiots that think interest increases our result of profit to

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Speaker 2: the bank. Exactly the type of brainless morons that deserve

677
00:34:35,013 --> 00:34:40,013
Speaker 2: to be negatively affected, the negatively affective flogs they already are.

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Speaker 3: That's from Goose Okay Ghost and this one says, guys

679
00:34:43,373 --> 00:34:46,413
Speaker 3: literally wrote down in my mindset app I use daily

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Speaker 3: that I am grateful for living in New Zealand. Yesterday

681
00:34:48,893 --> 00:34:51,853
Speaker 3: people don't realize how good we have it over here.

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Speaker 2: Boys. I work freaking hard, as does my wife. We

683
00:34:54,693 --> 00:34:57,293
Speaker 2: are both well educated and raised by some well grounded,

684
00:34:57,333 --> 00:35:01,013
Speaker 2: loving parents and amazing role models. People need perspective. You

685
00:35:01,093 --> 00:35:03,493
Speaker 2: get out of life what you put in. We've raised

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Speaker 2: our kids in the same empathetic way.

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Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number call?

688
00:35:08,613 --> 00:35:10,853
Speaker 3: Do you feel hard done by in New Zealand? Or

689
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Speaker 3: are you grateful that we've got it pretty good in

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Speaker 3: this country overall? Love to hear from you.

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Speaker 18: Well.

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Speaker 2: Judging by the surveys, sixty seven percent of you think

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Speaker 2: you're hard done by, which only leaves thirty three percent

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Speaker 2: of us that think we're doing okay in this country.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is eleven to two.

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Speaker 1: Matties Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matten Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC

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Speaker 1: ninety tick every box, a seamless experience awaits news TALKSB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. It is eight to two. A couple

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Speaker 3: of texts coming through here.

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Speaker 2: Diane has rose tinted glasses. That was the caller before

702
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Speaker 2: that had been to Garner and said that she found

703
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Speaker 2: the people there were very happy. The happy little coca

704
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Speaker 2: farmers in Ghana don't have her choices. Check out how

705
00:36:00,173 --> 00:36:04,133
Speaker 2: coca corporations run their business. Yeah, I think that's not

706
00:36:04,133 --> 00:36:06,212
Speaker 2: really the point she was making. She was saying that

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00:36:06,573 --> 00:36:08,973
Speaker 2: they don't have much and that they do have a

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00:36:08,973 --> 00:36:13,253
Speaker 2: difficult circumstance, but they seem to be less wingy than

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Speaker 2: people in New Zealand that, as this text points out,

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Speaker 2: have better.

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Speaker 3: Arguably, Yeah, it's how you arguably.

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Speaker 2: I think I think in nearly every objective measure, you

713
00:36:22,653 --> 00:36:25,933
Speaker 2: could say that we have it better here in New Zealand. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we've had a numb of people

715
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Speaker 2: saying that they're on an unemployment benefit here and they

716
00:36:29,693 --> 00:36:31,652
Speaker 2: don't have it great. But just the fact that we

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Speaker 2: are a country that's wealthy enough to have these these

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Speaker 2: social backups is something to be grateful for, absolutely, because

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Speaker 2: you happen to be receiving one. Yeah, perspective, Oh, eight

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Morris, How you doing.

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Speaker 19: In the sixty seven percent?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 19: And we're farming and yip, we've been doing it for

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Speaker 19: a long time. We've paid massive warmans. We were ninety

726
00:36:58,093 --> 00:37:00,813
Speaker 19: hours a week. We go staff all on wages in

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Speaker 19: the council and the government take most of it. And

728
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Speaker 19: when you sit there and you're going on about the rich,

729
00:37:06,173 --> 00:37:08,413
Speaker 19: I hated the rich guy down the road removed a

730
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Speaker 19: lot of main roads. They didn't count to have proscuted

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Speaker 19: at him because he had the pockets. We got positive

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Speaker 19: with him exactly the same thing, but they didn't think

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Speaker 19: we could afford it. Three years and round of grant.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were tomorrow. You've been telling me you're.

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Speaker 19: No, we're poor. We've got no money because the countain takes.

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Speaker 2: It hanging a minute. Didn't you say that you've put

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Speaker 2: thirteen thousand kids through private school?

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Speaker 19: Yeah, but that's irrelevant. We wor nine hours a week

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Speaker 19: for that. We fended off our waterways counts with incumbants

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Speaker 19: and oh you got to move them. We spent four

741
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Speaker 19: hundred and fifty thousand dollars counts and are you've got

742
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Speaker 19: to move them five hundred mills which changing the rules, but.

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Speaker 2: The ability and so that is enough morris for you

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Speaker 2: to be to think that you are hard done by

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Speaker 2: to live in New Zealand. So you're with the sixty

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Speaker 2: seventy cent.

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Speaker 19: We're not hard done by. But also the thing was

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00:37:54,293 --> 00:37:56,652
Speaker 19: that people hate politicians, they hate counts, they hate all

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Speaker 19: this government of bureaucracy. I'll be the China you don't

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Speaker 19: have the nonsense here. A lot of countries you don't

751
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Speaker 19: have this nonsense.

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Speaker 2: Well, China's got a lot of nonsense though, Like if

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00:38:04,773 --> 00:38:07,732
Speaker 2: you happen to disagree with the Chinese Communist Party, then

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00:38:08,013 --> 00:38:11,333
Speaker 2: things go pretty south for you. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 2: even you appear in complaining about the council on the

756
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Speaker 2: radio here could get you marked up in China as

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Speaker 2: someone to be observed.

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Speaker 19: But the thing is right is that you work really,

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Speaker 19: really hard. You want to do the best for your

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00:38:25,573 --> 00:38:28,533
Speaker 19: family right every step of the way. When you get

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Speaker 19: above water, more stuff comes. You play fifty nine thousand

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Speaker 19: dollars in rate. What are you getting, council? Nothing? Then

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Speaker 19: you've got water that comes off of your roads and

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Speaker 19: your dad. But then they say, oh, we want you

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Speaker 19: to pay for that. You know this is what we

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Speaker 19: go through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But is that enough to make you feel that

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Speaker 2: you're hard done by?

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Speaker 3: I just think, Marris, when you are in a position

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Speaker 3: to send your kids to private school and you go

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Speaker 3: down and enjoy a lovely pint down at the Hua

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Speaker 3: Pie tevern that you so deeply love. That is a

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Speaker 3: you know, that is a lovely community community to be

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Speaker 3: a part of that is what a lot the vast

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Speaker 3: majority of the human population on earth don't have.

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Speaker 2: But think if you call Morris, always appreciate hearing from you.

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Speaker 2: Shall we we've got We've got a bunch of calls

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Speaker 2: on the line, We've got a bunch of texts to

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Speaker 2: get through. So shall we continue this going for a

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Speaker 2: little bit after the news? Shall yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's keep it okay?

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Speaker 2: So eight hundred eighty ten eighty. According to a study,

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Speaker 2: sixty seven percent of New Zealand to scene somewhat or

784
00:39:25,093 --> 00:39:28,733
Speaker 2: very hard done by. Are they right? Or are people

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00:39:28,893 --> 00:39:30,973
Speaker 2: just ungrateful for where they live?

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Speaker 3: Yeap, give us your thoughts. I eight one hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number of call. Great to have

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Speaker 3: your company as always, new sport and weather coming up

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Speaker 3: very shortly. It is four minutes to two. We'll see

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Speaker 3: your afternoons. Our luck, we get it. We just don't

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Speaker 3: realize how we are.

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Speaker 4: We have.

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Speaker 3: Because collectively we just don't know how lucky we all are.

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Speaker 4: Full stop your new home for insightful and entertaining talk.

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Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo x

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Speaker 1: eighty on News Talk sev.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, welcome back into the show. Seven past two,

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Speaker 3: and been having a great discussion about whether we are

799
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Speaker 3: hard done by in New Zealand on the back of

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Speaker 3: a survey which did find sixty seven percent of kiwis

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Speaker 3: did feel hard done by against the government, business and

802
00:40:53,413 --> 00:40:55,213
Speaker 3: wealthy individuals in this country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, among other things. Yeah, that's in an Acumen Edelman

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Speaker 2: Trust barometer. So that's shocking to me. I heard that

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Speaker 2: this morning and I thought that shocking. Sixty seven percent

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Speaker 2: in a country that, in my opinion, has it pretty good.

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Speaker 2: And stats around the world into in terms of GDP

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Speaker 2: per capita and the anger towards wealthy in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is interesting because we're fourth in the world in terms

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Speaker 2: of where the median median situation sits, So where the

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Speaker 2: fourth most equal country in the world it comes to

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Speaker 2: income equality. So if sixty seven percent of us are

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Speaker 2: worried about that, then what's the rest of the world

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Speaker 2: worried about? You know, they must be absolutely freaking out.

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Speaker 2: And look, I've seen that, you know when I've been

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Speaker 2: in third world countries. Is talking about the other day

817
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Speaker 2: when I was in India and I saw a Lamborghilli

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Speaker 2: Lamborghini dealership that when you brought your car, you drove

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Speaker 2: over a grate, over a sewer into just pure poverty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's changed dichotomy.

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Speaker 2: That's income and equity that we don't have in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call love to hear your thoughts on this. Just

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Speaker 3: a quick text. You love this text k A. Matt

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Speaker 3: and Tyler Champagne showboys as usual. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand is turning into a country of winging palms.

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Speaker 3: Traveled to over forty countries, lived overseas for many years

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Speaker 3: on age fifty two, and there is no other place

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Speaker 3: in the world to live. Love it here from Ben.

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Speaker 2: This Texas say, is feeling hard done because you didn't

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Speaker 2: read out my text? Lowell winge winge bitch bitch bitch

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Speaker 2: mo mode mode. Yeah, We're getting so many texts through

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Speaker 2: and but keep keep trying. We'll try and get to

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Speaker 2: as many as we can. That's why I've extended this

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Speaker 2: topic over an hour. Yeah, I don't like doing that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're given the people what they want.

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Speaker 2: I don't like extending over and hour. I want to

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Speaker 2: move on. But Tyler goes, no, it's got to get

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Speaker 2: through to these phones, get all the phone calls that

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00:42:41,293 --> 00:42:43,093
Speaker 2: are coming through, and in some of these texts that

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Speaker 2: we can continue it on. So sorry that we don't

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00:42:45,253 --> 00:42:47,453
Speaker 2: get to all of them. Come on, guys, you are

843
00:42:47,933 --> 00:42:51,093
Speaker 2: intentionally skewing the numbers here. You can't serve a thousand

844
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Speaker 2: people probably in low socio economic situation and then say

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Speaker 2: sixty seven percent of us think we are hard done by.

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Speaker 2: That is bs from you, right, And well, I don't

847
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Speaker 2: think that's not what's happened. No, they haven't. They haven't

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Speaker 2: surveyed people only in low socioanomic economic situations. So we're

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Speaker 2: not intentionally skewing the numbers. But yeah, I mean statistics.

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Speaker 2: Whenever you drill into statistics, there are always anomalies that

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Speaker 2: you can find.

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Speaker 3: Just picking up on And I mentioned earlier this piece

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Speaker 3: by Roger Partridge. She works for the New Zealand Institute,

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Speaker 3: and he wrote a great piece on the New Zealand

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Speaker 3: here a website. But I just want to read out

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Speaker 3: this part. So he talks about the percentage of us

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Speaker 3: feeling hard done by a paradox, he writes, also shapes

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Speaker 3: the national conversation. Growing economic grievance coincides with stable or

859
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Speaker 3: declining income equality. So Treasury Is twenty twenty four analysis

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Speaker 3: confirmed to that trend income inequality decrease between two thousand

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Speaker 3: and seven and twenty twenty three, yet perceptions of unfairness

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Speaker 3: keep growing. This disconnect shows how narrative increasingly overpowers reality.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's no doubt that social media has an

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Speaker 2: effect on this. So if what people do all day

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Speaker 2: is scroll through pictures of people living more glamorous and

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Speaker 2: arguably better lives than them, Although you've got to remember

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Speaker 2: on social media that people don't take pictures of the

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Speaker 2: of the rubbish times, that they don't take a picture

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Speaker 2: of themselves sitting around looking to press doing nothing. They

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Speaker 2: put the picture up when they're having the best possible

871
00:44:21,573 --> 00:44:22,773
Speaker 2: time in their life. So you look at that and go,

872
00:44:22,853 --> 00:44:25,413
Speaker 2: my life is rubbish. Comparison is the thief of joy.

873
00:44:25,413 --> 00:44:27,773
Speaker 2: As I said in the previous hour, yep, So why

874
00:44:27,813 --> 00:44:30,293
Speaker 2: are you comparing yourself that? And why are you comparing

875
00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:31,893
Speaker 2: yourself to the people that have it better than you?

876
00:44:32,093 --> 00:44:36,213
Speaker 2: When there's so many millions, well billions and billions of people.

877
00:44:36,213 --> 00:44:38,652
Speaker 2: If you live in New Zealand, there is likely to

878
00:44:38,693 --> 00:44:42,853
Speaker 2: be six billion, seven billion people that have worse off

879
00:44:42,893 --> 00:44:45,172
Speaker 2: than you. Yep, and yet you're dissatisfied with your lot.

880
00:44:45,333 --> 00:44:47,333
Speaker 3: Exactly. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

881
00:44:47,453 --> 00:44:50,133
Speaker 3: number to call, Mike, how are you this afternoon?

882
00:44:50,693 --> 00:44:53,413
Speaker 20: Yeah, good mate. Hey, listen, I don't actually have a

883
00:44:53,453 --> 00:44:56,413
Speaker 20: fall in their talk or although you've just like really

884
00:44:56,453 --> 00:44:58,613
Speaker 20: scratched a niche with me there. I've lived in New

885
00:44:58,693 --> 00:45:01,733
Speaker 20: Zealand for thirty years, and the last ten years I

886
00:45:01,813 --> 00:45:04,333
Speaker 20: only live here six months a year, and then I

887
00:45:04,373 --> 00:45:07,293
Speaker 20: live an easier so feast easier the other six months.

888
00:45:07,773 --> 00:45:10,493
Speaker 20: The one thing that bugs me, and it really greats

889
00:45:10,573 --> 00:45:13,013
Speaker 20: me with New Zealand is whenever I come back, I

890
00:45:13,053 --> 00:45:15,732
Speaker 20: actually just want to slap people because all they're doing

891
00:45:15,853 --> 00:45:18,093
Speaker 20: is bitching and moaning, no matter how much money they've

892
00:45:18,093 --> 00:45:20,533
Speaker 20: got or how little money you've got, and they think

893
00:45:20,573 --> 00:45:21,093
Speaker 20: they've got.

894
00:45:20,933 --> 00:45:21,653
Speaker 17: It so hard.

895
00:45:22,013 --> 00:45:23,813
Speaker 20: So let me take them to the Philippines, or let

896
00:45:23,813 --> 00:45:26,613
Speaker 20: me take them to Thailand or Cambodia, all these places

897
00:45:26,653 --> 00:45:29,652
Speaker 20: I visit regular and then they'll see what hardship is

898
00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:32,853
Speaker 20: they've got no idea here. And honestly, I come back

899
00:45:32,853 --> 00:45:34,373
Speaker 20: and a lot of my friends are wealthy here.

900
00:45:34,413 --> 00:45:35,013
Speaker 18: They all own.

901
00:45:34,933 --> 00:45:37,133
Speaker 20: Houses, have worked over a couple of million dollars, and

902
00:45:37,533 --> 00:45:40,653
Speaker 20: there was more, and it's like how much do you need?

903
00:45:41,013 --> 00:45:45,172
Speaker 20: How much is enough? And it's never ever enough? And

904
00:45:45,213 --> 00:45:48,133
Speaker 20: it actually, the first couple of weeks I've come back,

905
00:45:49,933 --> 00:45:52,253
Speaker 20: it defies belief, like a good story would be.

906
00:45:52,253 --> 00:45:53,093
Speaker 18: A few years ago was.

907
00:45:53,093 --> 00:45:56,013
Speaker 20: In Sri Lanka and I was in Sri Lanka for

908
00:45:56,053 --> 00:45:57,693
Speaker 20: four months and it was at the time you probably

909
00:45:57,733 --> 00:45:59,773
Speaker 20: don't remember, but they ran out of petrol. They had

910
00:45:59,813 --> 00:46:03,133
Speaker 20: no petrol. Now, the average person there outside of Colombo,

911
00:46:03,173 --> 00:46:05,413
Speaker 20: the main capital, they were living on two dollars a day.

912
00:46:06,053 --> 00:46:07,973
Speaker 20: So after three months of coming back here, I go

913
00:46:08,013 --> 00:46:10,133
Speaker 20: to the Jimigo to and my best friend comes up

914
00:46:10,133 --> 00:46:11,933
Speaker 20: to me and he says, have you seen the price potatoes?

915
00:46:12,213 --> 00:46:16,813
Speaker 20: This guy's worth twelve million dollars, you know? And I

916
00:46:16,933 --> 00:46:19,133
Speaker 20: just listened to that guy on before who's talking about

917
00:46:19,173 --> 00:46:21,933
Speaker 20: he sent all his kids to university. It's get a life, mate,

918
00:46:22,133 --> 00:46:24,613
Speaker 20: Just get a life and try traveling outside of New

919
00:46:24,693 --> 00:46:27,333
Speaker 20: Zealand or Australia wherever it is that you go and

920
00:46:27,453 --> 00:46:30,493
Speaker 20: go next look at the real world because you just

921
00:46:30,693 --> 00:46:32,933
Speaker 20: you've got no idea how good you've got to here?

922
00:46:33,213 --> 00:46:35,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think that's what is a big part

923
00:46:35,853 --> 00:46:37,973
Speaker 3: of it, Mike, is there New Zealand can be quite

924
00:46:37,973 --> 00:46:40,773
Speaker 3: an insulla country where in the corner of the world,

925
00:46:40,853 --> 00:46:43,813
Speaker 3: and there is a percentage who don't travel that much,

926
00:46:43,813 --> 00:46:46,213
Speaker 3: and that plays into it that they don't realize the

927
00:46:46,373 --> 00:46:48,853
Speaker 3: reality that is happening in most parts of the of

928
00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:49,253
Speaker 3: the world.

929
00:46:50,213 --> 00:46:52,973
Speaker 20: No, I think that's I think that's a general ignorance

930
00:46:53,013 --> 00:46:55,373
Speaker 20: throughout the world, whether it being in America, New Zealand,

931
00:46:55,773 --> 00:46:59,293
Speaker 20: I think persist everywhere in anywhere. Like I couldn't make

932
00:46:59,333 --> 00:47:01,533
Speaker 20: a gripe about New Zealand. I have pay waiting much

933
00:47:01,573 --> 00:47:04,373
Speaker 20: taxes and they get very little ford. But however, I've

934
00:47:04,413 --> 00:47:07,212
Speaker 20: lived there for thirty years and on the whole life.

935
00:47:07,533 --> 00:47:12,453
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be for sixty seven percent because and this this,

936
00:47:13,493 --> 00:47:16,773
Speaker 2: Mike is these kind of stats are coming up and

937
00:47:16,813 --> 00:47:20,652
Speaker 2: surveys all around the Western world, so and it's they're

938
00:47:20,653 --> 00:47:23,733
Speaker 2: getting more and more. That's the sixty seven percent is

939
00:47:24,293 --> 00:47:26,453
Speaker 2: not it's sort of an outlier in New Zealand, but

940
00:47:26,853 --> 00:47:31,293
Speaker 2: apparently a lot of Western countries UK America. They're getting

941
00:47:31,293 --> 00:47:35,093
Speaker 2: these kind of numbers of people that are feeling dissatisfied

942
00:47:35,333 --> 00:47:35,893
Speaker 2: with the world.

943
00:47:37,133 --> 00:47:39,573
Speaker 20: I think that is back to COVID actually, and I

944
00:47:39,573 --> 00:47:42,333
Speaker 20: think there was a massive shift in the world during

945
00:47:42,413 --> 00:47:45,253
Speaker 20: COVID and after COVID. I'll just said, I travel all

946
00:47:45,293 --> 00:47:46,853
Speaker 20: over the world and a musician when I'm not in

947
00:47:46,853 --> 00:47:49,693
Speaker 20: New Zealand, and because of my travels, I see that

948
00:47:49,813 --> 00:47:52,453
Speaker 20: everywhere and anywhere. But let me give you another example.

949
00:47:52,453 --> 00:47:54,053
Speaker 20: If you go to England, all they'll talk about is

950
00:47:54,093 --> 00:47:57,652
Speaker 20: immigration and it's a mole for them, and you just

951
00:47:57,693 --> 00:48:00,493
Speaker 20: want to scratch it anythink, do you know how well

952
00:48:00,493 --> 00:48:02,853
Speaker 20: you live? Like I read something all my son told

953
00:48:02,853 --> 00:48:05,773
Speaker 20: me a few years back that the New Zealand, the

954
00:48:05,813 --> 00:48:07,813
Speaker 20: average New Zealand is in the topty percent of theirn

955
00:48:07,853 --> 00:48:08,333
Speaker 20: as the world.

956
00:48:08,453 --> 00:48:12,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I mean, but we compare

957
00:48:12,173 --> 00:48:15,293
Speaker 2: ourselves to billionaires. We're like, why and I not on

958
00:48:15,493 --> 00:48:18,172
Speaker 2: a private jet to mi Yorca. Yeah, you know, but

959
00:48:18,173 --> 00:48:20,333
Speaker 2: we're just comparing the South the wrong way. There's a

960
00:48:20,373 --> 00:48:23,333
Speaker 2: there's a famous quote from Socrates that says the secret

961
00:48:23,333 --> 00:48:25,773
Speaker 2: of happiness that you see is not in fine next

962
00:48:25,813 --> 00:48:28,253
Speaker 2: seeking more, but in developing the capacity and enjoy what

963
00:48:28,333 --> 00:48:32,053
Speaker 2: you have. That's basically what it is. You can seek more,

964
00:48:32,053 --> 00:48:33,573
Speaker 2: you can want more and more and more and more more,

965
00:48:33,613 --> 00:48:35,613
Speaker 2: but that that won't fill the whole in your heart

966
00:48:35,613 --> 00:48:38,093
Speaker 2: because there's always going to be someone that has more. Yeah,

967
00:48:38,133 --> 00:48:41,053
Speaker 2: there's always someone that has more. Even if you're on

968
00:48:41,093 --> 00:48:43,213
Speaker 2: a super yacht, someone will pull into the into the

969
00:48:43,213 --> 00:48:45,493
Speaker 2: harbor and with a super yacht that's two meters longer,

970
00:48:45,853 --> 00:48:47,933
Speaker 2: and you'll suddenly hate your super yacht. If you have

971
00:48:48,013 --> 00:48:49,533
Speaker 2: that kind of mindset.

972
00:48:49,213 --> 00:48:51,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, just pick it up on on, you know, the

973
00:48:52,173 --> 00:48:55,453
Speaker 3: you go back to the UK regularly, Mike. But I

974
00:48:55,493 --> 00:48:57,773
Speaker 3: have some good friends down in christ GPS. They came

975
00:48:57,773 --> 00:49:00,172
Speaker 3: from the UK and they escape the UK because they

976
00:49:00,213 --> 00:49:02,373
Speaker 3: got sick of the wen jeene and the going on.

977
00:49:02,693 --> 00:49:04,573
Speaker 3: But then the funny part is, and I love them,

978
00:49:04,613 --> 00:49:06,813
Speaker 3: the good lads, and they're doing very well in New Zealand.

979
00:49:06,813 --> 00:49:09,413
Speaker 3: But when they all get together as Brits, then they

980
00:49:09,453 --> 00:49:13,413
Speaker 3: start moaning about what boys, what are you doing?

981
00:49:13,493 --> 00:49:15,573
Speaker 20: Let me tell you, Let me tell you. I live

982
00:49:15,613 --> 00:49:17,813
Speaker 20: in a place called colsro Movie in Thailand's where beast

983
00:49:17,853 --> 00:49:21,813
Speaker 20: myself and there's a lot of poems. My gosh, you know,

984
00:49:21,893 --> 00:49:25,013
Speaker 20: I gotta tell you it's not usually they moan, but

985
00:49:25,133 --> 00:49:27,653
Speaker 20: I live in a paradise. I mean it is a paradise.

986
00:49:27,733 --> 00:49:29,853
Speaker 20: I don't earn a lot of money, I don't own

987
00:49:29,853 --> 00:49:32,373
Speaker 20: a house, but I live in a paradise. And yet

988
00:49:32,373 --> 00:49:34,413
Speaker 20: they come there and all they do is bitch and mont.

989
00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:36,213
Speaker 20: It's just it's an English mentality.

990
00:49:36,253 --> 00:49:39,213
Speaker 3: Trust beyond that, Mike, you have been great to chat to.

991
00:49:39,413 --> 00:49:42,133
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. O one hundred and eighty, teen

992
00:49:42,173 --> 00:49:43,373
Speaker 3: eighty the number to call.

993
00:49:43,533 --> 00:49:46,213
Speaker 2: It's human nature and it's always been that way. Humans

994
00:49:46,213 --> 00:49:49,613
Speaker 2: will always win. The only changes the medium is now available.

995
00:49:49,933 --> 00:49:53,293
Speaker 2: That's true. People do have more opportunity to get their

996
00:49:53,293 --> 00:49:57,373
Speaker 2: winging out to pit wider than they're just freeends and family. Yeah,

997
00:49:57,413 --> 00:49:59,933
Speaker 2: you get you're winging out to a lot more a

998
00:49:59,933 --> 00:50:02,933
Speaker 2: lot more people now. But but I think also along

999
00:50:02,933 --> 00:50:05,693
Speaker 2: with those mediums is the ability to see a bunch

1000
00:50:05,973 --> 00:50:08,773
Speaker 2: more things that you can be jealous about. You can

1001
00:50:08,773 --> 00:50:10,813
Speaker 2: get people telling you to be jealous. There's people that

1002
00:50:10,893 --> 00:50:15,093
Speaker 2: pedle jealousy for political gain. That that you know, that's

1003
00:50:15,093 --> 00:50:18,893
Speaker 2: that's out groups. Just blaming your position where you are

1004
00:50:18,893 --> 00:50:21,413
Speaker 2: on other people is a big part of a lot

1005
00:50:21,413 --> 00:50:21,933
Speaker 2: of politics.

1006
00:50:22,013 --> 00:50:24,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, very true. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is

1007
00:50:24,213 --> 00:50:26,293
Speaker 3: the number to call. Do you feel hard done by

1008
00:50:26,453 --> 00:50:28,853
Speaker 3: in New Zealand? Love to hear from you, Love to

1009
00:50:28,893 --> 00:50:30,733
Speaker 3: hear from you. It is sixteen past.

1010
00:50:30,533 --> 00:50:35,733
Speaker 1: Two, your new home of Afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor

1011
00:50:35,813 --> 00:50:39,573
Speaker 1: Afternoon with the Volvo XC ninety Turn every journey into

1012
00:50:39,733 --> 00:50:40,533
Speaker 1: something special.

1013
00:50:40,613 --> 00:50:43,333
Speaker 4: Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

1014
00:50:43,293 --> 00:50:47,692
Speaker 2: ZB News Talks the b It is nineteen past two.

1015
00:50:48,133 --> 00:50:50,493
Speaker 2: Do you think you're hard done by in New Zealand?

1016
00:50:50,533 --> 00:50:52,733
Speaker 2: Because sixty seven percent of New Zealand is, according to

1017
00:50:52,773 --> 00:50:56,613
Speaker 2: the study report, moderate to high levels of feeling hard

1018
00:50:56,733 --> 00:51:01,773
Speaker 2: done by, particularly against government, business and the wealthy. This

1019
00:51:01,853 --> 00:51:04,133
Speaker 2: textro On nineteen nine two says, fully agree with Mike

1020
00:51:04,173 --> 00:51:06,133
Speaker 2: the caller kiwis have no idea how good they have it.

1021
00:51:06,293 --> 00:51:08,133
Speaker 2: Go to South Africa and see a disaster that you

1022
00:51:08,213 --> 00:51:10,493
Speaker 2: don't want to. New Zealand is such an amazing country

1023
00:51:10,493 --> 00:51:13,013
Speaker 2: with huge potential and you're still a first world country.

1024
00:51:13,053 --> 00:51:16,973
Speaker 2: Don't let wokesm take charge because then all the problems

1025
00:51:16,973 --> 00:51:19,173
Speaker 2: will arrive. Now, this is a good text here from Matt.

1026
00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:21,693
Speaker 2: Comparison may well be the thief of joy. This is

1027
00:51:21,693 --> 00:51:23,493
Speaker 2: what I've been saying, but it's also the thief of logic.

1028
00:51:23,693 --> 00:51:25,613
Speaker 2: I never brought it to this argument of luck. We're

1029
00:51:25,613 --> 00:51:27,652
Speaker 2: not as bad as insert the third world country here,

1030
00:51:27,693 --> 00:51:29,853
Speaker 2: because I mean never, our advantages as a country have

1031
00:51:29,933 --> 00:51:32,813
Speaker 2: diminished under that philosophy, and I think that's why you'll

1032
00:51:32,813 --> 00:51:36,173
Speaker 2: find sixty five percent of people are dissatisfied with the

1033
00:51:36,213 --> 00:51:39,733
Speaker 2: status quo because we have slipped by many measures, despite

1034
00:51:40,293 --> 00:51:44,613
Speaker 2: your likely docted statistics. Yeah no, but I mean that's

1035
00:51:44,613 --> 00:51:46,652
Speaker 2: not the point, just because comparison is the thief of joy.

1036
00:51:46,693 --> 00:51:48,652
Speaker 2: But if you're feeling hard done by, are you are

1037
00:51:48,653 --> 00:51:51,573
Speaker 2: you going to that's if you're feeling hard done by it,

1038
00:51:51,613 --> 00:51:53,493
Speaker 2: and you're going to really work hard and build a

1039
00:51:53,493 --> 00:51:57,613
Speaker 2: business or do something in your community to make something happen,

1040
00:51:57,973 --> 00:51:59,652
Speaker 2: then that's great. But I think a lot of the

1041
00:51:59,653 --> 00:52:03,893
Speaker 2: feeling hard done by is just unrealistic and and frankly,

1042
00:52:04,133 --> 00:52:07,133
Speaker 2: a lack of gratitude. You can have gratitude for you were,

1043
00:52:07,173 --> 00:52:09,613
Speaker 2: and I guarantee people that are gateful are more productive

1044
00:52:09,653 --> 00:52:12,013
Speaker 2: and will get more things done. People that sit around

1045
00:52:12,013 --> 00:52:15,613
Speaker 2: feeling envious of other people and spinning their mental wheels

1046
00:52:15,653 --> 00:52:18,893
Speaker 2: on jealousy are unlikely to make the differences that you

1047
00:52:18,973 --> 00:52:21,253
Speaker 2: want to happen in this country, Matt.

1048
00:52:21,693 --> 00:52:25,172
Speaker 3: I mean it's about you can be upset about specific things, absolutely,

1049
00:52:25,213 --> 00:52:27,773
Speaker 3: But what we're talking about here in the survey is

1050
00:52:27,813 --> 00:52:32,333
Speaker 3: that sixty seven percent of New Zealanders feeling overwhelming a

1051
00:52:32,933 --> 00:52:35,053
Speaker 3: feeling of being hard done by in this country. So

1052
00:52:35,053 --> 00:52:37,773
Speaker 3: that's across the board. That's not focusing on specific things

1053
00:52:37,893 --> 00:52:39,773
Speaker 3: that could be done better. Of course things can be

1054
00:52:39,773 --> 00:52:42,613
Speaker 3: done better. That is a general feeling that New Zealand

1055
00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:43,933
Speaker 3: is not a great place to live.

1056
00:52:44,213 --> 00:52:46,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look at we all see that that some

1057
00:52:46,933 --> 00:52:48,973
Speaker 2: things have declined, and we've seen that productivity in New

1058
00:52:49,053 --> 00:52:51,453
Speaker 2: Zealand is absolutely a problem, and we have to do

1059
00:52:52,373 --> 00:52:54,293
Speaker 2: a lot, all of us. I believe all of us

1060
00:52:54,293 --> 00:52:56,653
Speaker 2: should be trying to swim in the same direction. You know,

1061
00:52:56,693 --> 00:52:59,253
Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of finding nemo, must keep, must

1062
00:52:59,293 --> 00:53:01,533
Speaker 2: keep something in the right direction to get things going.

1063
00:53:02,293 --> 00:53:05,853
Speaker 2: But sitting around feeling jealous because you saw someone on

1064
00:53:05,893 --> 00:53:09,093
Speaker 2: YouTube has a slightly nicer pair of shoes than you. Yeah,

1065
00:53:09,133 --> 00:53:10,453
Speaker 2: that's what we're really talking about here.

1066
00:53:10,573 --> 00:53:13,212
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty teen eighty is the number

1067
00:53:13,253 --> 00:53:16,652
Speaker 3: to call? Should we go to? Craig Craig how are you?

1068
00:53:17,333 --> 00:53:19,413
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, how are you? You just had to touch

1069
00:53:19,453 --> 00:53:21,333
Speaker 17: on what I was going to say. Then, I never

1070
00:53:21,373 --> 00:53:24,173
Speaker 17: feel hard done by because I've never isn't envious of

1071
00:53:24,213 --> 00:53:29,853
Speaker 17: anyone and the people as are socialized with and that

1072
00:53:29,933 --> 00:53:31,693
Speaker 17: kind of thing. None of them, I don't think, feel

1073
00:53:31,693 --> 00:53:35,893
Speaker 17: hard done by. But they are angry. They are really

1074
00:53:36,093 --> 00:53:40,533
Speaker 17: pissed off, you know. I take my business. I started

1075
00:53:40,573 --> 00:53:44,093
Speaker 17: a small business twelve years ago doing really well, and

1076
00:53:44,333 --> 00:53:49,413
Speaker 17: recessions come and go. But when you see and confidence

1077
00:53:49,653 --> 00:53:53,893
Speaker 17: getting rewarded with knighthoods and that kind of thing, I'm sorry,

1078
00:53:53,973 --> 00:53:57,133
Speaker 17: it really brassed me off because there's decisions that people

1079
00:53:57,173 --> 00:54:00,493
Speaker 17: make on our behalf. Yes they voted in by our peers,

1080
00:54:01,013 --> 00:54:07,292
Speaker 17: but get to see their incompetence rewarded. I think there's

1081
00:54:07,333 --> 00:54:09,933
Speaker 17: more key weeks that have oddly saying hard done by,

1082
00:54:10,013 --> 00:54:13,853
Speaker 17: but I actually mean they're angry and there's a lot

1083
00:54:13,853 --> 00:54:16,773
Speaker 17: of that, you know, And this goes into your next topic.

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00:54:17,573 --> 00:54:20,413
Speaker 17: My business was really has been really struggling now for

1085
00:54:20,493 --> 00:54:24,013
Speaker 17: close to two years. Laid off all the stuff, so

1086
00:54:24,133 --> 00:54:26,333
Speaker 17: we thought we'd better start up something else to try

1087
00:54:26,373 --> 00:54:29,252
Speaker 17: and stay alive, you know. So we start a little

1088
00:54:29,253 --> 00:54:33,333
Speaker 17: food truck and the costs and that which you're going

1089
00:54:33,413 --> 00:54:37,653
Speaker 17: to break reach later. You know, bureaucracy in this country

1090
00:54:37,693 --> 00:54:43,173
Speaker 17: has gone out of control. It sales and I'm not

1091
00:54:43,333 --> 00:54:47,533
Speaker 17: hard done by. I'm very, very grateful for what I have,

1092
00:54:48,053 --> 00:54:49,133
Speaker 17: but I am angry.

1093
00:54:49,653 --> 00:54:51,573
Speaker 2: That's a very good point you make, Greg, And this

1094
00:54:51,733 --> 00:54:54,533
Speaker 2: is the thing with statistics. You don't know why people are.

1095
00:54:54,733 --> 00:54:58,093
Speaker 2: So people may be grateful for where they are, but

1096
00:54:58,413 --> 00:55:02,453
Speaker 2: hard done by by a specific thing, like you're saying gray.

1097
00:55:03,093 --> 00:55:05,413
Speaker 2: So any statistic, you know, you asked me why I'm

1098
00:55:05,453 --> 00:55:07,013
Speaker 2: hard done by it, and I might be like, I

1099
00:55:07,053 --> 00:55:11,692
Speaker 2: love New Zealand's beautiful here, but this but the how

1100
00:55:11,733 --> 00:55:13,413
Speaker 2: hard it is for me to run my business and

1101
00:55:13,653 --> 00:55:15,773
Speaker 2: decisions that have put me out of out of business.

1102
00:55:16,253 --> 00:55:19,053
Speaker 2: You could feel specifically hard done by about that. So

1103
00:55:19,173 --> 00:55:22,133
Speaker 2: that's why stats like that are kind of when you're drilling.

1104
00:55:22,253 --> 00:55:23,893
Speaker 2: Sometimes they don't they don't hold up.

1105
00:55:25,093 --> 00:55:29,293
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, And I just think it's hard done by something.

1106
00:55:29,333 --> 00:55:31,373
Speaker 17: Why you've got to see it. So for me, no,

1107
00:55:31,613 --> 00:55:34,173
Speaker 17: I'm angry, and that makes me determined and we'll be okay,

1108
00:55:34,253 --> 00:55:36,413
Speaker 17: you know, but at the moment, we'll have been months

1109
00:55:36,453 --> 00:55:40,053
Speaker 17: to months and we're just working harder and harder bit

1110
00:55:40,093 --> 00:55:43,333
Speaker 17: of that's going to come right, But yeah, most of

1111
00:55:43,373 --> 00:55:45,053
Speaker 17: my peers are really angry.

1112
00:55:45,333 --> 00:55:48,093
Speaker 2: Hey, Craig would be actually really fantastic as you. As

1113
00:55:48,133 --> 00:55:49,933
Speaker 2: you alluded to before, we are going to talk about

1114
00:55:49,933 --> 00:55:52,453
Speaker 2: how hard it is to get a business up selling

1115
00:55:52,773 --> 00:55:55,333
Speaker 2: food and New Zealand a small business up. So I

1116
00:55:55,373 --> 00:55:57,172
Speaker 2: know I know what you're doing this afternoon, but it'd

1117
00:55:57,213 --> 00:56:01,333
Speaker 2: be great to talk to you on another topic about

1118
00:56:01,413 --> 00:56:03,093
Speaker 2: about the rig role you have to go through to

1119
00:56:03,373 --> 00:56:04,252
Speaker 2: set up your feed track.

1120
00:56:05,093 --> 00:56:08,013
Speaker 17: Yeah, we started a pizza trailer, so I'll pull you back, Okay.

1121
00:56:07,773 --> 00:56:10,773
Speaker 3: Brilliant, Thanks Drake, Thank you very much. Oh eight hundred

1122
00:56:10,773 --> 00:56:13,133
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the numbered call? Why do

1123
00:56:13,213 --> 00:56:15,853
Speaker 3: we feel hard done by? In New Zealand? Sixty seven

1124
00:56:15,893 --> 00:56:18,133
Speaker 3: percent of New Zealanders say that they do love to

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00:56:18,133 --> 00:56:21,533
Speaker 3: hear from you. It is twenty five past two.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons call, Oh eight hundred eighty

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00:56:28,173 --> 00:56:29,933
Speaker 1: ten eighty on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks B. It is twenty seven past two.

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00:56:33,933 --> 00:56:37,172
Speaker 2: Amazing show guys, Oh thank you, thank you. Cat love

1130
00:56:37,213 --> 00:56:39,733
Speaker 2: your realism and humor. Comparison is the thief of joy

1131
00:56:39,893 --> 00:56:42,373
Speaker 2: and social media as a Killer, keep up the great work.

1132
00:56:42,413 --> 00:56:45,213
Speaker 2: I work on another radio show, a nonprofit, but I

1133
00:56:45,213 --> 00:56:48,493
Speaker 2: look forward to hearing your insights, interviews fun every day.

1134
00:56:48,693 --> 00:56:52,692
Speaker 2: A big fan goals. PS. So pleased you move from

1135
00:56:52,693 --> 00:56:55,573
Speaker 2: behind the phones to out the front, Tyler, well deserved.

1136
00:56:55,693 --> 00:56:56,853
Speaker 3: Oh good on you, Kate.

1137
00:56:57,373 --> 00:56:58,213
Speaker 2: I was really enjoying that.

1138
00:56:58,293 --> 00:56:59,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you saying to that matter?

1139
00:57:00,133 --> 00:57:01,773
Speaker 2: I was taking most of it as a compliment for me,

1140
00:57:02,573 --> 00:57:04,093
Speaker 2: and now I wouldn't read it out if I found

1141
00:57:04,093 --> 00:57:05,693
Speaker 2: out that if I'd known it was a compliment to you.

1142
00:57:05,853 --> 00:57:06,493
Speaker 2: So sorry.

1143
00:57:06,813 --> 00:57:08,773
Speaker 3: That was great, Kate. I could see that you really

1144
00:57:08,813 --> 00:57:10,212
Speaker 3: didn't want to read it, but you were too deep.

1145
00:57:10,373 --> 00:57:11,053
Speaker 3: You're too deep.

1146
00:57:11,333 --> 00:57:19,453
Speaker 2: It was well your thoughts on all this, Tyler and Matt,

1147
00:57:19,453 --> 00:57:20,373
Speaker 2: how you doing good?

1148
00:57:20,573 --> 00:57:24,293
Speaker 21: Very good, love your show and I love the balance

1149
00:57:24,333 --> 00:57:27,053
Speaker 21: that you guys have got and you've lived in perspective.

1150
00:57:27,093 --> 00:57:27,893
Speaker 18: It's very very good.

1151
00:57:27,973 --> 00:57:29,453
Speaker 2: We love you, We love you.

1152
00:57:29,733 --> 00:57:31,053
Speaker 18: Okay, awesome, you.

1153
00:57:31,093 --> 00:57:37,133
Speaker 21: Know just talking about I want to combat this sort

1154
00:57:37,133 --> 00:57:39,733
Speaker 21: of grievance or you're heart done by. One of the

1155
00:57:39,773 --> 00:57:41,933
Speaker 21: best things you can do with your kids is take

1156
00:57:41,973 --> 00:57:44,973
Speaker 21: them to one of the countries like Thailand or Cambodia,

1157
00:57:45,293 --> 00:57:47,533
Speaker 21: or take them on holiday. All the time over there.

1158
00:57:47,533 --> 00:57:50,493
Speaker 21: It's not expensive and they can really put life into

1159
00:57:50,533 --> 00:57:52,173
Speaker 21: perspective when they see how those people live.

1160
00:57:53,373 --> 00:57:55,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, my kids have are friends with a lot of

1161
00:57:56,813 --> 00:57:59,773
Speaker 2: you know, Indian New Zealanders, and you know, your kids

1162
00:57:59,813 --> 00:58:02,333
Speaker 2: and their parents take them home for holidays. You'll take

1163
00:58:02,333 --> 00:58:05,293
Speaker 2: them back to the home country for holidays. And my

1164
00:58:05,373 --> 00:58:07,853
Speaker 2: kids have said they come back and go. New Zealand rules,

1165
00:58:08,453 --> 00:58:10,773
Speaker 2: not that India doesn't rule, but but you know, there's

1166
00:58:10,813 --> 00:58:13,413
Speaker 2: a lot in India, but they see, you see a

1167
00:58:13,453 --> 00:58:16,493
Speaker 2: lot when you're over there. You know, when I was

1168
00:58:16,533 --> 00:58:19,213
Speaker 2: over there, I saw these sticks in my heart every

1169
00:58:19,213 --> 00:58:20,573
Speaker 2: time I think about it. I saw it. It looked

1170
00:58:20,573 --> 00:58:22,573
Speaker 2: like an eight and a seven year old. There were

1171
00:58:22,573 --> 00:58:24,693
Speaker 2: in a dump on the side of the road, just

1172
00:58:24,733 --> 00:58:27,053
Speaker 2: pecking through the stuff. There was no kids anywhere around them,

1173
00:58:27,333 --> 00:58:30,693
Speaker 2: and I just locked eyes with them and as I

1174
00:58:30,733 --> 00:58:34,493
Speaker 2: was racing past in a car, and it hits me.

1175
00:58:34,573 --> 00:58:36,933
Speaker 2: It hits me. But yeah, sorry, Bill, lasting on about

1176
00:58:36,933 --> 00:58:37,573
Speaker 2: my own experience.

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Speaker 18: That's pretty cool.

1178
00:58:39,853 --> 00:58:39,973
Speaker 17: Now.

1179
00:58:40,013 --> 00:58:42,613
Speaker 21: My wife's tie. We've been Marrish twenty five years. We've

1180
00:58:42,613 --> 00:58:44,493
Speaker 21: got a tigh land all the time. We've got another

1181
00:58:44,533 --> 00:58:44,933
Speaker 21: home there.

1182
00:58:44,973 --> 00:58:48,253
Speaker 18: But my boys, I got two boys.

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00:58:48,573 --> 00:58:53,253
Speaker 21: They can really see things into perspective. And many years

1184
00:58:53,253 --> 00:58:54,973
Speaker 21: ago somebody said to me, the best thing you can

1185
00:58:55,013 --> 00:58:57,213
Speaker 21: do with your kids just travel. It really gets them

1186
00:58:57,213 --> 00:59:02,093
Speaker 21: to put life into perspective. And I can't endorse that enough. Yeah,

1187
00:59:02,093 --> 00:59:04,693
Speaker 21: it's pretty it's pretty cool. Just one more thing I

1188
00:59:04,733 --> 00:59:06,413
Speaker 21: wanted to talk to you about. Singapore is a country

1189
00:59:06,413 --> 00:59:07,813
Speaker 21: I know quite a lot about. Yeah, it's not a

1190
00:59:07,813 --> 00:59:10,173
Speaker 21: police run state. You can be whoever you want to

1191
00:59:10,173 --> 00:59:12,573
Speaker 21: be in Singapore, but don't step over the edge.

1192
00:59:12,813 --> 00:59:16,693
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, So the gentre the junta is pretty you

1193
00:59:16,733 --> 00:59:18,693
Speaker 2: know this free speech and such.

1194
00:59:19,213 --> 00:59:22,333
Speaker 21: Oh pretty well much so yep, yep, yep, yep. As

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00:59:22,333 --> 00:59:25,533
Speaker 21: long as it's all based on democracy. It's not when

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00:59:25,533 --> 00:59:27,013
Speaker 21: people think it. It's not a police state.

1197
00:59:27,973 --> 00:59:30,413
Speaker 2: Are their elections in Singapore? So part of my ignorance

1198
00:59:30,453 --> 00:59:31,093
Speaker 2: because I knew that.

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Speaker 21: They definitely definitely these elections. But there's only two main

1200
00:59:36,173 --> 00:59:38,813
Speaker 21: parties People's Action Party that was week on News party,

1201
00:59:39,173 --> 00:59:42,773
Speaker 21: and clearly even right now that People's Action Party is

1202
00:59:43,013 --> 00:59:46,413
Speaker 21: an intellect is way ahead of the other party, and

1203
00:59:46,493 --> 00:59:49,653
Speaker 21: people can see the track record of what they've done.

1204
00:59:50,133 --> 00:59:52,533
Speaker 21: It's I've studied leak on you for many, many years.

1205
00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:56,373
Speaker 21: It's a man, a very kind man, but just you know,

1206
00:59:56,533 --> 00:59:59,653
Speaker 21: they've just got strict rules. Don't don't be on the

1207
00:59:59,653 --> 01:00:02,173
Speaker 21: train and stick your hand up someone stressed. You'll be

1208
01:00:02,173 --> 01:00:05,013
Speaker 21: douctioning your police station and get get a rotine caning

1209
01:00:05,053 --> 01:00:05,853
Speaker 21: and you won't do it again.

1210
01:00:06,493 --> 01:00:08,053
Speaker 2: I've been singing before a number of times, but I

1211
01:00:08,053 --> 01:00:09,853
Speaker 2: need to educate myself a little bit more because I

1212
01:00:09,933 --> 01:00:13,533
Speaker 2: keep bringing it up, and the King's coming up. So

1213
01:00:13,773 --> 01:00:15,813
Speaker 2: I'm going to educate myself on that. So thanks Bill.

1214
01:00:16,013 --> 01:00:19,453
Speaker 21: Yeah, just one more thing. When we were laughed in Singapore,

1215
01:00:20,053 --> 01:00:22,693
Speaker 21: they were celebrating the fiftieth years of their independence. They

1216
01:00:22,693 --> 01:00:25,253
Speaker 21: had all soldiers, didn't have numbers on them, they had names.

1217
01:00:25,813 --> 01:00:27,253
Speaker 21: And I just got to talk to some of these

1218
01:00:27,253 --> 01:00:29,573
Speaker 21: guys and they were also proud of that they were

1219
01:00:29,573 --> 01:00:31,853
Speaker 21: Singapore into and who they were. They were smiled, they

1220
01:00:31,853 --> 01:00:36,453
Speaker 21: were just such you just amazing glowing people. And I go, wow,

1221
01:00:36,613 --> 01:00:41,373
Speaker 21: you know, to me, it was just a real refreshing thing. No,

1222
01:00:41,413 --> 01:00:42,173
Speaker 21: it's all I want to say.

1223
01:00:42,373 --> 01:00:44,493
Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you cool Bill. I appreciate that.

1224
01:00:44,573 --> 01:00:47,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, great phone call, right, thank you very much to

1225
01:00:47,893 --> 01:00:50,853
Speaker 3: all the text and phone calls on that one. Great discussion.

1226
01:00:52,013 --> 01:00:53,573
Speaker 2: I finished with this one yeah, this is a good

1227
01:00:53,573 --> 01:00:56,893
Speaker 2: one finished. Hey boys, Daryl Kerrigan from The Castle is

1228
01:00:56,933 --> 01:00:59,613
Speaker 2: the epitome of being content with your lot. Everyone should

1229
01:00:59,653 --> 01:01:01,973
Speaker 2: watch that movie. Everyone should watch The Castle. That is

1230
01:01:01,973 --> 01:01:03,333
Speaker 2: one of the greatest movies ever made.

1231
01:01:03,493 --> 01:01:05,013
Speaker 3: How's the serenity Man?

1232
01:01:05,053 --> 01:01:05,653
Speaker 2: I love that movie.

1233
01:01:05,733 --> 01:01:08,333
Speaker 3: Yes, I love that movie. Right, coming up, very short,

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01:01:08,493 --> 01:01:09,813
Speaker 3: we want to have a check to you. If you've

1235
01:01:09,853 --> 01:01:11,773
Speaker 3: tried to set up a food business. What sort of

1236
01:01:11,893 --> 01:01:14,653
Speaker 3: challenges do you face? What is the process to setting

1237
01:01:14,733 --> 01:01:17,173
Speaker 3: up a business where you have to sell food? There

1238
01:01:17,213 --> 01:01:20,173
Speaker 3: are many in New Zealand. It's a great story in

1239
01:01:20,213 --> 01:01:23,453
Speaker 3: the Herald who are pushing back on a lot of

1240
01:01:23,453 --> 01:01:26,093
Speaker 3: the regulations when it comes to getting into the game

1241
01:01:26,173 --> 01:01:28,773
Speaker 3: of selling food. So we want to hear your stories. Oh,

1242
01:01:28,773 --> 01:01:29,973
Speaker 3: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.

1243
01:01:30,093 --> 01:01:32,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, because I reckon I should just be

1244
01:01:32,053 --> 01:01:35,253
Speaker 2: able to grab a pot of chili and sit on

1245
01:01:35,333 --> 01:01:38,933
Speaker 2: the street and add to my income by slopping chili

1246
01:01:39,013 --> 01:01:42,253
Speaker 2: into pots and selling them on the street. You're rarely

1247
01:01:42,253 --> 01:01:44,613
Speaker 2: selling it, yeah, and then if people like it, then

1248
01:01:44,653 --> 01:01:47,053
Speaker 2: they'll enjoy it and they'll be fine. If they get sick,

1249
01:01:47,133 --> 01:01:49,853
Speaker 2: then they'll come back. And I don't know, give me

1250
01:01:49,893 --> 01:01:51,933
Speaker 2: a whack. Tatalize your fence, sol tase me.

1251
01:01:53,253 --> 01:01:55,413
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

1252
01:01:55,413 --> 01:01:58,413
Speaker 3: call love to hear your experiences. It is twenty eight

1253
01:01:58,453 --> 01:01:58,853
Speaker 3: to three.

1254
01:02:01,533 --> 01:02:03,253
Speaker 4: Jew's Talk said the headlines.

1255
01:02:03,533 --> 01:02:06,733
Speaker 15: It's blue bubble taxis. It's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1256
01:02:07,133 --> 01:02:10,253
Speaker 15: The Prime Minister we have a chance to turn around

1257
01:02:10,333 --> 01:02:14,333
Speaker 15: Wellington Water. The Local Government Minister is getting their Commerce

1258
01:02:14,333 --> 01:02:18,213
Speaker 15: Commission to monitor the company, bringing forward a regime planned

1259
01:02:18,373 --> 01:02:22,213
Speaker 15: under local Water done well. Eden Park could be about

1260
01:02:22,253 --> 01:02:25,933
Speaker 15: to hit up central government for help with upgrades. Auckland

1261
01:02:25,973 --> 01:02:29,253
Speaker 15: Council has endorsed revamping the part to be the super

1262
01:02:29,293 --> 01:02:32,693
Speaker 15: city's main stadium, but is not offering it any funding.

1263
01:02:33,293 --> 01:02:37,093
Speaker 15: A twenty year old driver accused of hitting pedestrians outside

1264
01:02:37,133 --> 01:02:41,173
Speaker 15: Auckland University still has named suppression for now. He has

1265
01:02:41,213 --> 01:02:44,173
Speaker 15: appeared in court this morning and been remanded on bail

1266
01:02:44,213 --> 01:02:49,133
Speaker 15: without plea until reappairing on April seventeen. King Charles has

1267
01:02:49,173 --> 01:02:51,933
Speaker 15: had a road bump in his cancer treatment, with a

1268
01:02:51,973 --> 01:02:56,133
Speaker 15: brief stint and hospital for a temporary side effect from treatment.

1269
01:02:56,773 --> 01:03:00,093
Speaker 15: Jobs remain a bit harder to find them previously, with

1270
01:03:00,373 --> 01:03:04,413
Speaker 15: almost no change in filled jobs between January and February.

1271
01:03:04,853 --> 01:03:09,293
Speaker 15: Economists don't expect unemployment to start falling until after June.

1272
01:03:09,853 --> 01:03:14,093
Speaker 15: Helen Stein's profit hits by tough New Zealand market. You

1273
01:03:14,173 --> 01:03:16,973
Speaker 15: can read more about that it ends at Herald Premium.

1274
01:03:17,093 --> 01:03:19,213
Speaker 15: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

1275
01:03:19,293 --> 01:03:21,253
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie, So let's have a chat

1276
01:03:21,293 --> 01:03:23,933
Speaker 3: about this. High costs and legal requirements have pushed some

1277
01:03:24,413 --> 01:03:30,613
Speaker 3: small scale food entrepreneurs into operating undergrounds. So many have

1278
01:03:30,813 --> 01:03:33,693
Speaker 3: told this journalist it's an article in the New Zealand

1279
01:03:33,733 --> 01:03:36,853
Speaker 3: Herald that the challenges and the regulations are just so

1280
01:03:36,973 --> 01:03:39,053
Speaker 3: strict when it comes to trying to set up a

1281
01:03:39,093 --> 01:03:42,373
Speaker 3: food business that they're having to do it secretly, underground

1282
01:03:42,493 --> 01:03:43,453
Speaker 3: or just not at all.

1283
01:03:43,613 --> 01:03:46,373
Speaker 2: The sex out Steven says, Facebook marketplace is full of

1284
01:03:46,373 --> 01:03:49,613
Speaker 2: people selling homemade food, So what are the regulations and

1285
01:03:49,653 --> 01:03:51,173
Speaker 2: how hard is it? And we were talking to Craig

1286
01:03:51,213 --> 01:03:52,413
Speaker 2: before we're try and get it back on. He was

1287
01:03:52,413 --> 01:03:54,813
Speaker 2: talking about us on another subject, but he's just moved

1288
01:03:55,293 --> 01:03:58,453
Speaker 2: started a food truck and you were saying, very very

1289
01:03:58,453 --> 01:04:01,773
Speaker 2: difficult to get it going and comply, and do you

1290
01:04:01,813 --> 01:04:04,773
Speaker 2: think we're risk averts to risk averse. Just because someone

1291
01:04:04,853 --> 01:04:08,013
Speaker 2: gets the craps because something you made doesn't mean that.

1292
01:04:08,013 --> 01:04:10,893
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a pretty rare occurrence, right, And is

1293
01:04:10,893 --> 01:04:13,333
Speaker 2: that the end of the world? You know what I'm saying,

1294
01:04:13,373 --> 01:04:15,693
Speaker 2: That's probably not a very sensible way to put it.

1295
01:04:16,093 --> 01:04:18,453
Speaker 2: But are we so worried about an outcome that isn't

1296
01:04:18,493 --> 01:04:21,213
Speaker 2: even that bad? I mean, you know, there's been stories

1297
01:04:21,253 --> 01:04:23,173
Speaker 2: in the world where thirty five people have died because

1298
01:04:23,173 --> 01:04:26,453
Speaker 2: someone's made some terrible alcohol or whatever. But if you're

1299
01:04:26,493 --> 01:04:29,613
Speaker 2: just selling like a you know, generally a business is

1300
01:04:29,613 --> 01:04:30,933
Speaker 2: going to try and do their best to sell the

1301
01:04:31,013 --> 01:04:33,693
Speaker 2: right kind of food, aren't they. Yeah, you know, like

1302
01:04:33,733 --> 01:04:36,533
Speaker 2: if you're going to start a business, generally your goal

1303
01:04:36,733 --> 01:04:38,773
Speaker 2: is going to be to create something good and create

1304
01:04:38,813 --> 01:04:41,293
Speaker 2: a business out of it. So do we have to

1305
01:04:41,453 --> 01:04:45,053
Speaker 2: be so worried about it? Surely? As I said before,

1306
01:04:45,253 --> 01:04:47,533
Speaker 2: I can just get a trestle table and a big

1307
01:04:47,573 --> 01:04:50,373
Speaker 2: pot of chili, slap it into some cups and sell

1308
01:04:50,413 --> 01:04:54,213
Speaker 2: it and if it makes someone sick, then my business

1309
01:04:54,253 --> 01:04:56,013
Speaker 2: will go disappear pretty quickly.

1310
01:04:56,133 --> 01:04:57,373
Speaker 3: Exactly. There was a story.

1311
01:04:57,453 --> 01:04:58,773
Speaker 2: It would have been how I've picked chili?

1312
01:04:59,413 --> 01:04:59,493
Speaker 22: Oh?

1313
01:04:59,573 --> 01:05:02,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was your fascination with chili at the moment.

1314
01:05:02,373 --> 01:05:03,933
Speaker 3: There was a story about six years ago. It was

1315
01:05:03,933 --> 01:05:06,013
Speaker 3: a guy who had a pub down at the West

1316
01:05:06,013 --> 01:05:07,973
Speaker 3: Coast and he started making poss and pies with poss

1317
01:05:07,973 --> 01:05:10,293
Speaker 3: and meat, and people love the possum pies. It was

1318
01:05:10,333 --> 01:05:11,933
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, something unique on the coast to

1319
01:05:11,933 --> 01:05:15,253
Speaker 3: go and try and IMPI shut him down and said, nop,

1320
01:05:15,253 --> 01:05:17,333
Speaker 3: you haven't got the right license where we're a bit

1321
01:05:17,373 --> 01:05:20,253
Speaker 3: worried about tuberculosis and your possum meat, so you can't

1322
01:05:20,293 --> 01:05:22,973
Speaker 3: do it anymore. But everyone on the coast and his

1323
01:05:23,053 --> 01:05:25,733
Speaker 3: customers said, hey, we want to take the risk. What

1324
01:05:25,853 --> 01:05:27,813
Speaker 3: is wrong with that? We think he's been selling these

1325
01:05:27,853 --> 01:05:31,133
Speaker 3: possum pies for years. Nobody's got sec nobody he's got TV.

1326
01:05:31,773 --> 01:05:34,133
Speaker 3: We're okay with the risk. And they said, nope, it's

1327
01:05:34,213 --> 01:05:34,853
Speaker 3: not the rules.

1328
01:05:35,053 --> 01:05:38,173
Speaker 2: Get out, get your finger out of his poss and pie. Craig,

1329
01:05:38,253 --> 01:05:40,453
Speaker 2: welcome back to the show. So if you could talk

1330
01:05:40,533 --> 01:05:44,853
Speaker 2: us through your struggles with opening your your your food.

1331
01:05:45,933 --> 01:05:50,453
Speaker 17: We decided to do something something else to help help

1332
01:05:50,533 --> 01:05:54,133
Speaker 17: us along. And so your contact council and they send

1333
01:05:54,173 --> 01:05:58,733
Speaker 17: you out side of the bloody Bible everything that he

1334
01:05:58,853 --> 01:06:00,853
Speaker 17: has to do. And I just passed it to my

1335
01:06:00,933 --> 01:06:04,253
Speaker 17: wife and luckily he's went through everything and checked it

1336
01:06:04,293 --> 01:06:09,893
Speaker 17: and off. But it's just ridiculous for particulous stuff, you know,

1337
01:06:11,373 --> 01:06:16,173
Speaker 17: and it's just time consuming and expensive. We've just how

1338
01:06:16,573 --> 01:06:20,253
Speaker 17: you and your license done. So they come out, they

1339
01:06:20,693 --> 01:06:23,893
Speaker 17: check out your premises where you make your food to

1340
01:06:23,973 --> 01:06:26,373
Speaker 17: make sure that's all hygienic and that. But you know

1341
01:06:26,493 --> 01:06:30,773
Speaker 17: that costs five hundred bucks twelve hundred, yeah, just for

1342
01:06:30,813 --> 01:06:33,653
Speaker 17: them to come out and have a lock. And then

1343
01:06:33,853 --> 01:06:36,293
Speaker 17: we've got to get our water tested. And we say,

1344
01:06:36,333 --> 01:06:38,333
Speaker 17: why do you need our water tested? Were drink it

1345
01:06:38,333 --> 01:06:42,413
Speaker 17: every day? Oh well it might have something could go

1346
01:06:42,493 --> 01:06:45,973
Speaker 17: on your hands and contaminate the food. And so that's

1347
01:06:46,013 --> 01:06:50,613
Speaker 17: six hundred dollars to get your water tested. And honestly,

1348
01:06:50,813 --> 01:06:54,013
Speaker 17: it's just I've said before as your rock pro seed,

1349
01:06:54,093 --> 01:07:01,333
Speaker 17: it's best people justifying their positions to make it harder

1350
01:07:01,653 --> 01:07:02,653
Speaker 17: great if you don't mind.

1351
01:07:02,493 --> 01:07:05,053
Speaker 2: Be asking what what type of food were you making?

1352
01:07:05,093 --> 01:07:07,813
Speaker 2: And your are you making in your food truck? So

1353
01:07:07,893 --> 01:07:09,853
Speaker 2: we do oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

1354
01:07:09,773 --> 01:07:14,133
Speaker 17: Okay, but we're a little bit different where we do.

1355
01:07:14,573 --> 01:07:17,013
Speaker 17: We make them all at home and pre cook them

1356
01:07:17,493 --> 01:07:21,013
Speaker 17: and then they're snap frozen and so we can go

1357
01:07:21,133 --> 01:07:23,213
Speaker 17: out on location and that kind of and then we

1358
01:07:23,293 --> 01:07:27,013
Speaker 17: can dish out four or five hundred pizzas an hour.

1359
01:07:27,533 --> 01:07:30,893
Speaker 17: That costs that cast fantastic.

1360
01:07:30,933 --> 01:07:31,693
Speaker 18: People love them.

1361
01:07:32,613 --> 01:07:34,973
Speaker 17: But we now also open up seven days a week

1362
01:07:35,013 --> 01:07:38,333
Speaker 17: at home in the evenings have to work. Wow, And

1363
01:07:38,413 --> 01:07:40,893
Speaker 17: it is a part time It is a part time business.

1364
01:07:41,373 --> 01:07:44,213
Speaker 17: And when times come good again and the first business

1365
01:07:44,253 --> 01:07:46,333
Speaker 17: picks up, the pizzas will be our holidays and that

1366
01:07:46,413 --> 01:07:46,893
Speaker 17: kind of thing.

1367
01:07:48,213 --> 01:07:51,173
Speaker 2: But that's exactly what we want people in New Zealand

1368
01:07:51,173 --> 01:07:53,253
Speaker 2: to be doing. What you're doing, Craig, it's fantastic. So

1369
01:07:53,253 --> 01:07:55,853
Speaker 2: you've got a business, it's hit a bit of tough

1370
01:07:55,853 --> 01:07:58,053
Speaker 2: times and you're dealing with that. So you've come up

1371
01:07:58,053 --> 01:08:01,813
Speaker 2: with another productive solution. You're not asking anyone for help.

1372
01:08:01,853 --> 01:08:04,173
Speaker 2: You're going, look, I'm going to we've got a plan,

1373
01:08:04,213 --> 01:08:05,293
Speaker 2: we're going to sort it out. We're going to do

1374
01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:08,613
Speaker 2: these pizzas. So people should be rolling out the red

1375
01:08:08,653 --> 01:08:11,333
Speaker 2: carpet to make it as easy as you can to

1376
01:08:11,373 --> 01:08:12,493
Speaker 2: do that, and that's.

1377
01:08:12,333 --> 01:08:15,413
Speaker 17: Right, and they just don't do it. But I'm still

1378
01:08:15,413 --> 01:08:19,173
Speaker 17: a sticular for winning. And I always remember a sign

1379
01:08:19,253 --> 01:08:21,812
Speaker 17: on the back of a main fight trucks or harder

1380
01:08:21,893 --> 01:08:24,452
Speaker 17: I work, luckier I get. So that's my modo.

1381
01:08:24,853 --> 01:08:27,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, good on your Craig, were good luck.

1382
01:08:27,692 --> 01:08:30,012
Speaker 2: Have you got what's the name of your your pizza truck?

1383
01:08:30,732 --> 01:08:34,492
Speaker 17: Epic Pizza. We're based out of cal Copper Copper Pizza.

1384
01:08:34,692 --> 01:08:37,452
Speaker 2: Okay, so look out for pizza if you see it,

1385
01:08:37,452 --> 01:08:40,772
Speaker 2: get yourself one. Congratulations. Good on you, Craig, You're great

1386
01:08:40,812 --> 01:08:44,932
Speaker 2: New Zealand. You know you sort of think about maybe

1387
01:08:44,933 --> 01:08:46,452
Speaker 2: the only test I just think about the best test

1388
01:08:46,492 --> 01:08:48,972
Speaker 2: would be is that someone from the council. They don't

1389
01:08:48,973 --> 01:08:50,412
Speaker 2: do anything, they don't come out, they don't check your

1390
01:08:50,412 --> 01:08:54,093
Speaker 2: food whatever, but periodically they come past and they have

1391
01:08:54,133 --> 01:08:57,612
Speaker 2: to order you to eat some of your food. It's

1392
01:08:57,692 --> 01:08:59,293
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, if you're sitting in front

1393
01:08:59,333 --> 01:09:03,572
Speaker 2: of someone and you're a king and they pull you

1394
01:09:03,652 --> 01:09:07,692
Speaker 2: some wine. Yep, you have us at first. It's that

1395
01:09:07,772 --> 01:09:08,213
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

1396
01:09:08,532 --> 01:09:10,133
Speaker 3: I like your thinking, would you eat your own chilly?

1397
01:09:10,572 --> 01:09:12,253
Speaker 2: The only two questions should be would you feed this

1398
01:09:12,293 --> 01:09:13,012
Speaker 2: food to your kids?

1399
01:09:13,253 --> 01:09:13,492
Speaker 3: Yep?

1400
01:09:13,933 --> 01:09:17,213
Speaker 2: And would you? And secondly, you will be subject to

1401
01:09:17,452 --> 01:09:20,532
Speaker 2: random checks and the check will just be someone will

1402
01:09:20,532 --> 01:09:23,253
Speaker 2: come up, they'll buy the food and they'll say we're

1403
01:09:23,253 --> 01:09:27,973
Speaker 2: from you know, the food safety wounders, you'll call them that,

1404
01:09:28,692 --> 01:09:32,812
Speaker 2: the fs W yep, and and you now have to

1405
01:09:33,013 --> 01:09:34,732
Speaker 2: eat this. They hand it back to you you need.

1406
01:09:34,572 --> 01:09:36,692
Speaker 3: It, and then they come back twenty four hours later

1407
01:09:36,732 --> 01:09:38,213
Speaker 3: and just see if you're still there or if you're

1408
01:09:38,213 --> 01:09:38,692
Speaker 3: on the toilet.

1409
01:09:38,732 --> 01:09:40,732
Speaker 2: That's all you need. Yeah, that's all you need because

1410
01:09:40,812 --> 01:09:43,932
Speaker 2: at any point you have to eat it randomly. It'll

1411
01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:44,532
Speaker 2: keep you honest.

1412
01:09:44,572 --> 01:09:46,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that idea. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1413
01:09:46,732 --> 01:09:48,692
Speaker 3: If you're in the food business, love to hear from

1414
01:09:48,772 --> 01:09:52,852
Speaker 3: you do. Regulations just make it too hard to set

1415
01:09:52,933 --> 01:09:56,093
Speaker 3: up these sort of businesses. And if you're thinking about

1416
01:09:56,173 --> 01:09:58,972
Speaker 3: getting into the game, like Craig has has got into,

1417
01:09:59,173 --> 01:10:00,732
Speaker 3: love to hear from you as well, oh eight hundred

1418
01:10:00,812 --> 01:10:01,452
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty.

1419
01:10:01,572 --> 01:10:02,973
Speaker 2: And it seems like a great thing to do, and

1420
01:10:03,013 --> 01:10:06,333
Speaker 2: it seems like a very you know, honest business making

1421
01:10:06,412 --> 01:10:09,492
Speaker 2: and selling food. It's it's commerce at at its purest,

1422
01:10:09,812 --> 01:10:13,652
Speaker 2: and it's been happening for thousands and thousands and thousands

1423
01:10:14,013 --> 01:10:16,412
Speaker 2: of years, so it's a great thing. So if you've

1424
01:10:16,452 --> 01:10:18,532
Speaker 2: got any tips for people that are starting up and

1425
01:10:18,572 --> 01:10:21,133
Speaker 2: trying to sell their own food that they make, then

1426
01:10:21,372 --> 01:10:22,973
Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you well as well, one

1427
01:10:23,013 --> 01:10:24,092
Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen eighty.

1428
01:10:23,893 --> 01:10:25,612
Speaker 3: Seventeen to three.

1429
01:10:26,133 --> 01:10:28,492
Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred and

1430
01:10:28,532 --> 01:10:31,852
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo

1431
01:10:32,173 --> 01:10:36,573
Speaker 1: XC ninety Ticking every box a seamless experience of weeds News.

1432
01:10:36,333 --> 01:10:40,972
Speaker 3: Talks B Afternoon fourteen to three. Are our regulations too

1433
01:10:40,973 --> 01:10:43,133
Speaker 3: strict when it comes to setting up a business to

1434
01:10:43,293 --> 01:10:45,892
Speaker 3: sell food? Love to hear from you on eight hundred

1435
01:10:45,933 --> 01:10:46,772
Speaker 3: eighteen eighty.

1436
01:10:46,572 --> 01:10:49,012
Speaker 2: And Dave wants away in your chat about the possum

1437
01:10:49,053 --> 01:10:52,253
Speaker 2: pies that got shut down even though coasters when it wasn't.

1438
01:10:52,293 --> 01:10:53,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter Salter was his name.

1439
01:10:53,452 --> 01:10:56,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, Peter Sardi is making delicious possum pies. You've got

1440
01:10:56,013 --> 01:10:58,652
Speaker 2: shut down because of TB. This textas says, did you

1441
01:10:58,732 --> 01:11:01,052
Speaker 2: know that you can't catch TV from eating meat infected

1442
01:11:01,093 --> 01:11:02,892
Speaker 2: with TB? Only one per cent of possums have TB,

1443
01:11:03,253 --> 01:11:06,532
Speaker 2: probably less than dear Venison with TB is called non

1444
01:11:06,572 --> 01:11:09,532
Speaker 2: export quality and a soul to you and I there

1445
01:11:09,572 --> 01:11:12,293
Speaker 2: you go, get your finger out of what's his name's so?

1446
01:11:13,133 --> 01:11:14,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, he sold his pie.

1447
01:11:14,253 --> 01:11:19,133
Speaker 2: Get your finger out of salt his Pie Tovey, Welcome

1448
01:11:19,173 --> 01:11:19,572
Speaker 2: to the show.

1449
01:11:20,973 --> 01:11:22,893
Speaker 4: Gooday mate, how are you bloody.

1450
01:11:22,532 --> 01:11:24,772
Speaker 18: Good good good good.

1451
01:11:25,253 --> 01:11:27,173
Speaker 23: So yeah, I just hopped in the car and and

1452
01:11:27,333 --> 01:11:29,052
Speaker 23: and here do you guys yamping away?

1453
01:11:29,093 --> 01:11:31,213
Speaker 18: And mate, I hate red tape.

1454
01:11:31,253 --> 01:11:35,612
Speaker 23: So you know, I'm very sympathetic to people that find

1455
01:11:35,652 --> 01:11:38,173
Speaker 23: that kind of stuff hard. But I've been in food

1456
01:11:38,853 --> 01:11:43,612
Speaker 23: packing probably for about twenty five years, and I got

1457
01:11:43,612 --> 01:11:47,452
Speaker 23: to say, it's it's not that arduous in New Zealand

1458
01:11:47,452 --> 01:11:52,732
Speaker 23: compared to a lot of countries, and I kind of

1459
01:11:52,772 --> 01:11:56,253
Speaker 23: think it's it's it's there for a reason. And even

1460
01:11:56,333 --> 01:11:59,692
Speaker 23: though it drives us crazy at times. I mean, when

1461
01:11:59,732 --> 01:12:02,372
Speaker 23: there is a problem, the media just jumps on it

1462
01:12:02,452 --> 01:12:04,692
Speaker 23: and it's the first thing in the newspaper. You know,

1463
01:12:04,732 --> 01:12:07,412
Speaker 23: it might be a foreign object in something, or it

1464
01:12:07,492 --> 01:12:11,333
Speaker 23: might be you know, someone served me peanuts when there

1465
01:12:11,412 --> 01:12:14,532
Speaker 23: wasn't supposed to be peanuts in there. And you know,

1466
01:12:14,812 --> 01:12:17,812
Speaker 23: I have so much sympathy sometimes for those guys, because

1467
01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:21,012
Speaker 23: you can be doing everything you write during everything right,

1468
01:12:21,173 --> 01:12:24,612
Speaker 23: and you know, you can just get vilified through such

1469
01:12:24,612 --> 01:12:27,532
Speaker 23: a small thing. And so you know, even though there

1470
01:12:27,612 --> 01:12:29,972
Speaker 23: is a lot of checks and balances and you've got

1471
01:12:29,973 --> 01:12:31,732
Speaker 23: to get the guys out to audit you and all

1472
01:12:31,732 --> 01:12:34,932
Speaker 23: this kind of thing. It's really there to protect people

1473
01:12:35,572 --> 01:12:39,492
Speaker 23: from getting sick. And you know, as I said that,

1474
01:12:39,933 --> 01:12:42,492
Speaker 23: someone can say, look, I don't mind if I get sick.

1475
01:12:42,532 --> 01:12:43,692
Speaker 18: I want to eat the poss and pie.

1476
01:12:43,812 --> 01:12:46,293
Speaker 23: You know it's my risk. But you know it's only

1477
01:12:46,293 --> 01:12:48,213
Speaker 23: when a kid eats it and something does go wrong.

1478
01:12:48,213 --> 01:12:49,812
Speaker 23: And I'm not saying it would with poss and pie.

1479
01:12:49,853 --> 01:12:50,333
Speaker 18: I've got no.

1480
01:12:50,333 --> 01:12:53,253
Speaker 23: Idea, but you know you have to be able to

1481
01:12:53,293 --> 01:12:57,933
Speaker 23: put it out there safe. And we have a pretty robust,

1482
01:12:58,293 --> 01:13:01,333
Speaker 23: simple system here in New Zealand. I mean Australia.

1483
01:13:01,372 --> 01:13:01,572
Speaker 18: Mate.

1484
01:13:01,572 --> 01:13:03,333
Speaker 23: If you think here's hard, you should have a look

1485
01:13:03,333 --> 01:13:07,012
Speaker 23: at the riggs in Australia. They're just next level compared

1486
01:13:07,053 --> 01:13:07,333
Speaker 23: to hair.

1487
01:13:07,452 --> 01:13:09,333
Speaker 2: You know, what kind of food are you? What kind

1488
01:13:09,333 --> 01:13:13,012
Speaker 2: of food are your packaging? Toby all sorts.

1489
01:13:13,013 --> 01:13:15,532
Speaker 23: We do packing for a whole lot of different people's products,

1490
01:13:15,572 --> 01:13:17,652
Speaker 23: so we have a real cross range of stuff. It

1491
01:13:17,692 --> 01:13:21,573
Speaker 23: could be rice made, it could be spices, could be sauces.

1492
01:13:21,652 --> 01:13:24,333
Speaker 23: But you know, even in the last five years, why

1493
01:13:24,412 --> 01:13:27,532
Speaker 23: I can sympathize these things like allergens have become just

1494
01:13:27,612 --> 01:13:30,372
Speaker 23: a massive thing. Whereas when I started, no one gave

1495
01:13:30,412 --> 01:13:32,173
Speaker 23: a crap whether something had peanuts in it.

1496
01:13:32,293 --> 01:13:33,853
Speaker 18: Like we used to package.

1497
01:13:33,572 --> 01:13:36,013
Speaker 23: Peanuts stealing made and they'd hand them out on the

1498
01:13:36,053 --> 01:13:38,532
Speaker 23: plane and everyone would eat them and munch away. Then

1499
01:13:38,532 --> 01:13:40,173
Speaker 23: a kid got allergic to it, and so we new

1500
01:13:40,253 --> 01:13:42,532
Speaker 23: zealand pulled them off. And ever since there's been no nuts.

1501
01:13:42,572 --> 01:13:46,612
Speaker 23: And now, yeah, the amount of working, the amount of

1502
01:13:46,612 --> 01:13:49,932
Speaker 23: working effort we do to reduce, you know, any chance

1503
01:13:49,933 --> 01:13:53,852
Speaker 23: of allergens getting in different products, it's it's it's massive.

1504
01:13:54,213 --> 01:13:56,372
Speaker 2: And then there are studies that say that the allergy

1505
01:13:56,412 --> 01:13:59,253
Speaker 2: the peanuts has gone through the roof, and allergies are

1506
01:13:59,293 --> 01:14:02,892
Speaker 2: by avoiding things as causing the allergies to get get stronger,

1507
01:14:02,933 --> 01:14:05,253
Speaker 2: because you know, you have to be and there's the

1508
01:14:05,293 --> 01:14:08,333
Speaker 2: far end of it. But peanut allergies are growing rapid

1509
01:14:08,452 --> 01:14:11,133
Speaker 2: lead you to keeping them out of schools and keeping

1510
01:14:11,173 --> 01:14:11,972
Speaker 2: them away from people.

1511
01:14:13,053 --> 01:14:13,892
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, and.

1512
01:14:13,812 --> 01:14:16,692
Speaker 23: I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you there. I mean, my

1513
01:14:17,253 --> 01:14:20,412
Speaker 23: niece is massively allergic to nuts. She's done nothing like

1514
01:14:20,492 --> 01:14:24,173
Speaker 23: we've always eaten nuts, our families eaten nuts. She pops out, mate,

1515
01:14:24,173 --> 01:14:28,572
Speaker 23: if she gets nuts, she's dead. You know, So I

1516
01:14:28,612 --> 01:14:30,812
Speaker 23: could kind of say, well, you know, we've never been

1517
01:14:30,853 --> 01:14:31,532
Speaker 23: afraid of them.

1518
01:14:31,572 --> 01:14:32,612
Speaker 18: But that's that's there.

1519
01:14:32,652 --> 01:14:34,492
Speaker 23: I mean, in Asia, if you go to like Thailand

1520
01:14:34,572 --> 01:14:37,133
Speaker 23: or Vietnam, mate nuts is and everything, and you're right,

1521
01:14:37,572 --> 01:14:40,452
Speaker 23: the nut allergies are a lot lower over there than here.

1522
01:14:40,532 --> 01:14:42,333
Speaker 18: So you know, there could be some truth in that.

1523
01:14:42,492 --> 01:14:45,732
Speaker 23: But nonetheless, you know, you've got people that are allergic

1524
01:14:45,812 --> 01:14:48,452
Speaker 23: to gluten. They're allergic to seeds, foods.

1525
01:14:48,492 --> 01:14:50,452
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people claiming. There's a lot of people, Toby,

1526
01:14:50,492 --> 01:14:52,492
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people claiming to be allergic to gluten.

1527
01:14:52,812 --> 01:14:56,012
Speaker 2: There's some that are, Yeah.

1528
01:14:55,933 --> 01:14:57,652
Speaker 23: You could be right there.

1529
01:14:58,293 --> 01:15:02,653
Speaker 2: I've got gluten intolerance and tolerance anyway you continue.

1530
01:15:02,772 --> 01:15:03,612
Speaker 18: I've got gluten time.

1531
01:15:03,692 --> 01:15:06,092
Speaker 23: I mean, look, I'm not using that as a reason

1532
01:15:06,173 --> 01:15:09,532
Speaker 23: for what we're chatting about today. I can't disagree with you,

1533
01:15:09,612 --> 01:15:12,852
Speaker 23: but I guess all I'm saying is, look, there is

1534
01:15:12,893 --> 01:15:16,533
Speaker 23: some red tape, and there is some expense, but ultimately,

1535
01:15:17,093 --> 01:15:19,972
Speaker 23: you know you need something there, and I don't think

1536
01:15:20,013 --> 01:15:25,652
Speaker 23: it's onerous enough to actually, you know, make it hard

1537
01:15:25,732 --> 01:15:28,253
Speaker 23: for people to put out, say food. I honestly don't

1538
01:15:28,293 --> 01:15:31,772
Speaker 23: think it's it's that bad. I mean, there is some

1539
01:15:31,853 --> 01:15:35,173
Speaker 23: stupid stuff there, no question about it, and you can

1540
01:15:35,293 --> 01:15:37,572
Speaker 23: just go, holy crap, why are we doing this?

1541
01:15:37,572 --> 01:15:38,453
Speaker 18: This is ridiculous.

1542
01:15:38,532 --> 01:15:42,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, Toby, sorry to jump in there, but do people

1543
01:15:42,293 --> 01:15:45,372
Speaker 3: selling food at a market or say a school fear

1544
01:15:45,652 --> 01:15:47,133
Speaker 3: do they come under these rules or is it a

1545
01:15:47,133 --> 01:15:49,492
Speaker 3: bit more leeway for those guys? You know?

1546
01:15:49,572 --> 01:15:52,973
Speaker 23: So made in fairy in theory, everyone should be like

1547
01:15:53,013 --> 01:15:57,613
Speaker 23: I get a lot of you know, the school enterprises

1548
01:15:57,652 --> 01:15:59,173
Speaker 23: ring us up and they want to start up and

1549
01:15:59,732 --> 01:16:02,132
Speaker 23: you know, do something at school, which is food and whatnot,

1550
01:16:02,532 --> 01:16:04,213
Speaker 23: and you know, we'll try and help them out, but

1551
01:16:04,293 --> 01:16:06,572
Speaker 23: we'll give them a little bit of a guideline. Say, well, look,

1552
01:16:06,572 --> 01:16:08,053
Speaker 23: what you're doing is great, but you just need to

1553
01:16:08,053 --> 01:16:10,333
Speaker 23: be a bit careful about this. So I think in

1554
01:16:10,492 --> 01:16:14,772
Speaker 23: fairy everything should come under it, right, But ultimately it doesn't.

1555
01:16:14,853 --> 01:16:19,492
Speaker 23: And there's a ton of small businesses and food supplies

1556
01:16:19,532 --> 01:16:24,492
Speaker 23: around the country which really I would say, are kind

1557
01:16:24,532 --> 01:16:27,812
Speaker 23: of still under the radar a little bit and whack

1558
01:16:27,893 --> 01:16:30,053
Speaker 23: and make ninety nine point nine percent of the time

1559
01:16:30,053 --> 01:16:32,012
Speaker 23: you're not going to have a problem, right, But it's

1560
01:16:32,053 --> 01:16:35,452
Speaker 23: that one percent that something goes wrong. And like I say,

1561
01:16:35,612 --> 01:16:38,333
Speaker 23: you know it's all through the herald everywhere.

1562
01:16:38,412 --> 01:16:40,013
Speaker 2: Well, I kind of get but That's the other thing

1563
01:16:40,013 --> 01:16:42,732
Speaker 2: that I don't like is this blame culture. So something happens,

1564
01:16:42,732 --> 01:16:44,732
Speaker 2: it's a one percent and we decide that we're going

1565
01:16:44,772 --> 01:16:47,812
Speaker 2: to you know, we're going to crucify people for it.

1566
01:16:47,853 --> 01:16:50,253
Speaker 2: And I think that's the other thing because people, you know,

1567
01:16:50,293 --> 01:16:52,732
Speaker 2: people that really lay into something on the one mistake,

1568
01:16:52,772 --> 01:16:54,412
Speaker 2: they're doing it for their own profits and their own

1569
01:16:54,492 --> 01:16:56,732
Speaker 2: own reasons, and they sort of moral outrage and we've

1570
01:16:56,772 --> 01:16:59,612
Speaker 2: got to blame someone and destroy someone because something's happened.

1571
01:16:59,612 --> 01:17:01,452
Speaker 2: That I think that leads to a lot of a

1572
01:17:01,492 --> 01:17:03,293
Speaker 2: lot of the red tape that people are talking about.

1573
01:17:04,532 --> 01:17:07,133
Speaker 17: Oh well, you could be right there.

1574
01:17:07,253 --> 01:17:10,253
Speaker 23: I mean it ab but it just drives me crazy

1575
01:17:10,253 --> 01:17:13,093
Speaker 23: because I know how you could be doing everything right,

1576
01:17:13,293 --> 01:17:16,412
Speaker 23: and you know, it doesn't take much for something like

1577
01:17:16,492 --> 01:17:19,372
Speaker 23: that occasionally to happen. Like, you know, if you're in

1578
01:17:19,732 --> 01:17:23,253
Speaker 23: a packing industry and you're packing pies or whatever, I

1579
01:17:23,293 --> 01:17:26,012
Speaker 23: don't know, and a fly comes in and someone misses

1580
01:17:26,053 --> 01:17:28,132
Speaker 23: it and you've got all a peace control in the world.

1581
01:17:28,173 --> 01:17:30,532
Speaker 23: There ye gets in your pie mate front page of

1582
01:17:30,532 --> 01:17:30,972
Speaker 23: the Herald.

1583
01:17:31,293 --> 01:17:32,133
Speaker 4: You know, look at this is.

1584
01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:36,213
Speaker 2: A discussing might familiate this, Yeah exactly. I'm sorry, Toby

1585
01:17:36,293 --> 01:17:39,932
Speaker 2: we've got to rush off and keep your calls coming through.

1586
01:17:40,093 --> 01:17:42,173
Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty and thanks for all

1587
01:17:42,173 --> 01:17:43,852
Speaker 2: the nuts jokes coming through on nineteen nine two.

1588
01:17:43,893 --> 01:17:48,133
Speaker 1: Appreciate it seven to three, the issues that affect you

1589
01:17:48,333 --> 01:17:50,892
Speaker 1: and a bit of fun along the way, Matt and Taylor.

1590
01:17:51,013 --> 01:17:55,213
Speaker 1: Afternoon with the Volvo X eighty Innovation, style and design.

1591
01:17:55,412 --> 01:17:56,852
Speaker 4: Have it all. News Talks s.

1592
01:17:57,013 --> 01:18:00,532
Speaker 3: B, news talk Z be good afternoon. Right, We're going

1593
01:18:00,612 --> 01:18:03,253
Speaker 3: to keep this going after three o'clock because so many

1594
01:18:03,253 --> 01:18:05,053
Speaker 3: people want to have a chat. Oh, one hundred and

1595
01:18:05,093 --> 01:18:07,372
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call, but a

1596
01:18:07,372 --> 01:18:09,333
Speaker 3: couple of texts up to the news.

1597
01:18:10,933 --> 01:18:13,532
Speaker 2: God, look at this. Someone just saw Peter Salter, the

1598
01:18:13,572 --> 01:18:16,013
Speaker 2: possum pie man, driving through Hoko Tika as you were

1599
01:18:16,013 --> 01:18:19,492
Speaker 2: talking about him. They should have just gotten off his road.

1600
01:18:20,173 --> 01:18:21,452
Speaker 2: Look at that heat.

1601
01:18:21,452 --> 01:18:23,892
Speaker 3: A Salter in the flesh and blood. I mean he's

1602
01:18:23,893 --> 01:18:26,652
Speaker 3: a good man. He's well known in Hokaticker, in West Coast.

1603
01:18:26,692 --> 01:18:29,333
Speaker 3: I don't think he runs the pie shop anymore. So

1604
01:18:29,452 --> 01:18:31,892
Speaker 3: if you're in Hokitiker or going to the West Coast,

1605
01:18:32,133 --> 01:18:34,013
Speaker 3: Peter Salter's out of the pie game. He's out of

1606
01:18:34,013 --> 01:18:34,532
Speaker 3: the pie game.

1607
01:18:34,893 --> 01:18:37,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, soe hundred eighty ten eighty. I think we're

1608
01:18:37,372 --> 01:18:40,133
Speaker 2: going to keep this going after three because we've got

1609
01:18:40,133 --> 01:18:42,892
Speaker 2: a lot of texts and calls to get through. We're

1610
01:18:42,933 --> 01:18:44,812
Speaker 2: just talking about how hard it is to get into

1611
01:18:45,492 --> 01:18:49,692
Speaker 2: small business food production in New Zealand, because some people

1612
01:18:49,732 --> 01:18:52,612
Speaker 2: are saying it's really, really difficult, and I have had

1613
01:18:52,612 --> 01:18:56,293
Speaker 2: some pushback on my plan that you should just be

1614
01:18:56,372 --> 01:18:58,133
Speaker 2: able to cook up some food. If you're willing to

1615
01:18:58,133 --> 01:18:59,893
Speaker 2: feed it to your kids, then surely you should be

1616
01:18:59,933 --> 01:19:00,932
Speaker 2: allowed to feed it to other people.

1617
01:19:01,013 --> 01:19:03,012
Speaker 3: Sounds I'm glad to me. Oh one hundred and eighty

1618
01:19:03,093 --> 01:19:05,852
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the numberical News, sport and weather on

1619
01:19:05,893 --> 01:19:06,972
Speaker 3: its way, Great t Eavy.

1620
01:19:06,732 --> 01:19:10,293
Speaker 4: Company talking with you all afternoon.

1621
01:19:10,492 --> 01:19:13,812
Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo

1622
01:19:14,133 --> 01:19:15,733
Speaker 1: XC ninety News Talks.

1623
01:19:15,532 --> 01:19:20,892
Speaker 3: Mb God Afternoon. Welcome back into the show, seven past

1624
01:19:20,933 --> 01:19:24,652
Speaker 3: three right, coming up in about twenty five thirty minutes

1625
01:19:24,732 --> 01:19:26,732
Speaker 3: time is New Zealander of the Week.

1626
01:19:27,173 --> 01:19:30,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the panel is still deliberating, so if

1627
01:19:30,853 --> 01:19:32,372
Speaker 2: you've got a suggestion for New Zealand of the Week,

1628
01:19:32,372 --> 01:19:34,892
Speaker 2: fil through on nine two ninety two. It is a

1629
01:19:34,893 --> 01:19:36,053
Speaker 2: prestigious award.

1630
01:19:36,093 --> 01:19:38,372
Speaker 3: And the panel is singular the panel of Matt Heath

1631
01:19:38,372 --> 01:19:40,772
Speaker 3: we're talking about here, But you can influence them. There

1632
01:19:40,772 --> 01:19:43,492
Speaker 3: are ways of achieving that the panel.

1633
01:19:43,532 --> 01:19:47,892
Speaker 2: Your flattery works. The panel involves me and textus through

1634
01:19:47,933 --> 01:19:51,492
Speaker 2: on ninety two ninety two and to a lesser extent, Tyler, You've.

1635
01:19:51,372 --> 01:19:53,452
Speaker 3: Still got time if you want to try and get

1636
01:19:53,492 --> 01:19:56,293
Speaker 3: your nominations in for New Zealander of the Week, but

1637
01:19:56,333 --> 01:19:58,772
Speaker 3: that will be announced in about twenty five minutes time.

1638
01:19:59,133 --> 01:20:01,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, but right now we're talking about how hard it

1639
01:20:01,812 --> 01:20:05,892
Speaker 2: is to fire up a small food business in this

1640
01:20:06,013 --> 01:20:10,492
Speaker 2: country because there's some people complaining about the tape, isn't there, Tyler.

1641
01:20:10,213 --> 01:20:13,493
Speaker 3: Yep, certainly are so. The high cost and legal requirements

1642
01:20:13,532 --> 01:20:18,173
Speaker 3: have pushed many small scale food entrepreneurs into either operating

1643
01:20:18,492 --> 01:20:22,773
Speaker 3: informally or illegally underground, or getting out of the business altogether.

1644
01:20:22,933 --> 01:20:25,532
Speaker 3: We've had some great techs come through on nine two

1645
01:20:25,612 --> 01:20:26,133
Speaker 3: ninety two.

1646
01:20:26,572 --> 01:20:29,333
Speaker 2: Hey, jents, if you think food safety standards are over regulated,

1647
01:20:29,372 --> 01:20:31,892
Speaker 2: then take a drive through Ortata any day of the

1648
01:20:31,933 --> 01:20:34,412
Speaker 2: week and see how many people are selling barbecue, honey

1649
01:20:34,532 --> 01:20:37,372
Speaker 2: and island kai from the front yards. Not to mention

1650
01:20:37,452 --> 01:20:40,492
Speaker 2: the fruit and vegie stools. Cheers Sean, pss bearra cock.

1651
01:20:40,532 --> 01:20:41,133
Speaker 2: See at the pub?

1652
01:20:41,933 --> 01:20:42,452
Speaker 3: See you're there?

1653
01:20:42,492 --> 01:20:44,972
Speaker 2: Which pub? You need to give more details, Sean.

1654
01:20:44,853 --> 01:20:45,772
Speaker 3: I don't leave us hanging like that.

1655
01:20:45,853 --> 01:20:48,532
Speaker 2: But see, that's what I think is good. I think

1656
01:20:48,572 --> 01:20:50,532
Speaker 2: that's the way the world should be. If people want

1657
01:20:50,532 --> 01:20:54,133
Speaker 2: to make some money, you know, and people are doing

1658
01:20:54,133 --> 01:20:56,452
Speaker 2: it tough, then isn't the age old way that you

1659
01:20:56,572 --> 01:20:58,692
Speaker 2: do that is to set up a food stand and

1660
01:20:58,732 --> 01:21:00,452
Speaker 2: sell some food because people need to eat. It's a

1661
01:21:00,452 --> 01:21:01,372
Speaker 2: great way to start a business.

1662
01:21:01,532 --> 01:21:04,213
Speaker 3: Exactly. This sticks to says guys. To renew our lockal

1663
01:21:04,253 --> 01:21:07,932
Speaker 3: license annually is one four hundred and ninety one bucks,

1664
01:21:07,973 --> 01:21:09,812
Speaker 3: then they're is our food license on top of that,

1665
01:21:10,053 --> 01:21:14,012
Speaker 3: which isn't cheap? Money grabbing councils half the costs doesn't

1666
01:21:14,013 --> 01:21:14,892
Speaker 3: need to be so expensive.

1667
01:21:14,893 --> 01:21:19,133
Speaker 2: Why do you have to renew your alcohol lincense every year?

1668
01:21:19,213 --> 01:21:20,812
Speaker 3: That is a great question, But why didn't you.

1669
01:21:20,732 --> 01:21:22,973
Speaker 2: Set it up? And also that I think when it

1670
01:21:22,973 --> 01:21:25,652
Speaker 2: comes to alcohol licenses, there should just be some blanket rules.

1671
01:21:25,652 --> 01:21:27,333
Speaker 2: You fill them in and you pass. There shouldn't be

1672
01:21:27,333 --> 01:21:29,692
Speaker 2: this punishing thing where people analyze it and talk to

1673
01:21:29,732 --> 01:21:33,652
Speaker 2: people and decide and reinvent the wheel. Every time someone

1674
01:21:33,652 --> 01:21:35,293
Speaker 2: tries to get a liquor license. There should just be

1675
01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:37,133
Speaker 2: set of rules and you just do it. If you

1676
01:21:37,173 --> 01:21:39,372
Speaker 2: fill them in, then you get to start your bar.

1677
01:21:39,532 --> 01:21:41,333
Speaker 2: You don't even apply for it, you just get to start,

1678
01:21:41,372 --> 01:21:43,093
Speaker 2: and then if someone comes and finds out that you're

1679
01:21:43,093 --> 01:21:45,612
Speaker 2: not doing it, then do it that way. But these

1680
01:21:45,652 --> 01:21:47,732
Speaker 2: people taking so long. I mean, I've got a friend

1681
01:21:47,772 --> 01:21:50,572
Speaker 2: that's trying to get a bar going. He's run a

1682
01:21:50,612 --> 01:21:54,133
Speaker 2: fantastic bars before and he's trying to set it up

1683
01:21:54,173 --> 01:21:58,293
Speaker 2: and it's just taking taken eight months so far. They've

1684
01:21:58,293 --> 01:22:00,333
Speaker 2: just sort of had to give up and go elsewhere

1685
01:22:00,333 --> 01:22:03,053
Speaker 2: where they deal with a whole lot of absolute rubbish.

1686
01:22:03,412 --> 01:22:05,452
Speaker 2: And it's just that, I mean, that's the problem. That's

1687
01:22:05,452 --> 01:22:07,293
Speaker 2: the problem with productivity in this country, is it?

1688
01:22:07,333 --> 01:22:09,492
Speaker 3: But also why where is that money going? At one

1689
01:22:09,492 --> 01:22:12,452
Speaker 3: thy four hundred and ninety one per bar or pub

1690
01:22:12,532 --> 01:22:15,173
Speaker 3: or whoever's seeking a liquor license. Where's that money going?

1691
01:22:15,893 --> 01:22:17,612
Speaker 3: One hundred eighty eighty's the number?

1692
01:22:17,772 --> 01:22:22,892
Speaker 2: Call we'll go to em. You're you're startup food producer.

1693
01:22:22,893 --> 01:22:23,492
Speaker 2: I understand.

1694
01:22:24,412 --> 01:22:29,333
Speaker 8: Hi, Yeah, I've started just over eighteen months ago.

1695
01:22:29,933 --> 01:22:31,253
Speaker 2: And what are you making?

1696
01:22:31,412 --> 01:22:38,892
Speaker 8: M Mostly South African food, so quite a niche market

1697
01:22:39,053 --> 01:22:40,213
Speaker 8: that we're we're catering to.

1698
01:22:40,853 --> 01:22:42,892
Speaker 2: So what what what? What are the some of the

1699
01:22:42,973 --> 01:22:43,492
Speaker 2: names there?

1700
01:22:45,812 --> 01:22:53,333
Speaker 8: I love that I'll make the healthier things are cook sisters,

1701
01:22:53,372 --> 01:22:58,132
Speaker 8: not really healthy a cook sisters. I make sisters treats, pudding,

1702
01:22:59,853 --> 01:23:04,132
Speaker 8: traditional fit cook which is the pack the maoris fy bread.

1703
01:23:04,372 --> 01:23:08,133
Speaker 2: Yep delas yus and tell them. Tell us about your

1704
01:23:08,333 --> 01:23:09,812
Speaker 2: sperience so far, How hard has it been.

1705
01:23:11,532 --> 01:23:16,972
Speaker 8: It's really from the administrative side, it's quite onerous. If

1706
01:23:17,013 --> 01:23:19,612
Speaker 8: you're cooking mints or anything, You've got to measure the

1707
01:23:19,692 --> 01:23:23,892
Speaker 8: temperature three times when it's cooling, three times when it's cold.

1708
01:23:25,093 --> 01:23:29,253
Speaker 8: So the admin side is onerous, although I agree with

1709
01:23:29,452 --> 01:23:32,812
Speaker 8: a lot of it. From the health and safety side,

1710
01:23:32,853 --> 01:23:38,412
Speaker 8: the cost of getting your permits or your verification done

1711
01:23:38,652 --> 01:23:43,412
Speaker 8: is very high, and you're renewals, and I just think

1712
01:23:43,692 --> 01:23:49,692
Speaker 8: as council should consider basing it on your turnover or

1713
01:23:50,133 --> 01:23:53,812
Speaker 8: ever incentives to startups because we're paying the same as

1714
01:23:53,893 --> 01:23:57,612
Speaker 8: the big chains and they're really big businesses. We say

1715
01:23:57,652 --> 01:24:01,932
Speaker 8: exactly the same and we're making nowhere near the same

1716
01:24:01,973 --> 01:24:02,772
Speaker 8: amount of money.

1717
01:24:02,973 --> 01:24:04,492
Speaker 2: Why do you have to pay anything? That's a bit

1718
01:24:04,492 --> 01:24:06,213
Speaker 2: I don't understand. You should just be able to start

1719
01:24:06,333 --> 01:24:09,852
Speaker 2: up and then there are a bunch of regulations. If

1720
01:24:09,893 --> 01:24:12,293
Speaker 2: there are, there's probably way too many regulations in my opinion,

1721
01:24:12,333 --> 01:24:16,333
Speaker 2: but there'll be some regulations. And by starting a business,

1722
01:24:16,333 --> 01:24:18,932
Speaker 2: you agree and if you're breaking the law, then they

1723
01:24:18,933 --> 01:24:21,412
Speaker 2: can find that out down the track if they find that.

1724
01:24:21,812 --> 01:24:23,732
Speaker 2: It seems strange to me that you have to pay

1725
01:24:23,772 --> 01:24:24,492
Speaker 2: anything at all.

1726
01:24:25,933 --> 01:24:28,372
Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's a big chunk. I mean you're looking

1727
01:24:28,412 --> 01:24:32,372
Speaker 8: at it over a thousand wells. The thousand dollars plus

1728
01:24:32,652 --> 01:24:38,293
Speaker 8: to renew and get verified, plus all the startup costs.

1729
01:24:38,333 --> 01:24:41,372
Speaker 8: You know, when you're starting out, you have to buy

1730
01:24:41,612 --> 01:24:45,173
Speaker 8: a big box of packaging. You can't just buy ten

1731
01:24:45,692 --> 01:24:47,812
Speaker 8: of something and tested and see if it's going to

1732
01:24:47,853 --> 01:24:53,012
Speaker 8: work for you. So it's the startup costs are really hard.

1733
01:24:53,053 --> 01:24:55,973
Speaker 8: There is the fact that people don't think about, you know,

1734
01:24:56,093 --> 01:24:59,613
Speaker 8: the social media side. You've got to get Google Workspace

1735
01:24:59,853 --> 01:25:03,133
Speaker 8: and you know boost ads and by the time you've

1736
01:25:03,133 --> 01:25:07,972
Speaker 8: added up zero costs per month, etc. It's a lot

1737
01:25:07,973 --> 01:25:08,613
Speaker 8: of money.

1738
01:25:08,893 --> 01:25:12,013
Speaker 2: M just in the in the marketing space. Now do

1739
01:25:12,053 --> 01:25:13,812
Speaker 2: you want to say the name of your businesses and

1740
01:25:13,853 --> 01:25:14,852
Speaker 2: how people can get hold of you?

1741
01:25:15,532 --> 01:25:18,013
Speaker 8: Oh, that would be great, thank you. My business is

1742
01:25:18,053 --> 01:25:21,892
Speaker 8: called pot course, it's p A d k o s.

1743
01:25:23,053 --> 01:25:26,612
Speaker 8: It means food for when you on a journey, which

1744
01:25:26,692 --> 01:25:31,412
Speaker 8: is part of the immigration thing. And yeah, I do

1745
01:25:31,572 --> 01:25:36,213
Speaker 8: grazing tables and featuring boxes.

1746
01:25:37,412 --> 01:25:41,973
Speaker 2: So where's the best place to get hold of you podcasts?

1747
01:25:42,333 --> 01:25:42,492
Speaker 7: Uh?

1748
01:25:43,053 --> 01:25:47,772
Speaker 8: You as my website course or you can call me

1749
01:25:47,812 --> 01:25:49,412
Speaker 8: on it. Can I give my number?

1750
01:25:50,133 --> 01:25:51,612
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1751
01:25:52,093 --> 01:25:56,293
Speaker 8: Two two eight one nine eight four Oh and again

1752
01:25:58,093 --> 01:26:00,532
Speaker 8: two two eight one nine eight.

1753
01:26:00,452 --> 01:26:04,372
Speaker 2: Four ore into the podcast then then give give m

1754
01:26:04,492 --> 01:26:06,852
Speaker 2: a ring. And so has you said? You say it's

1755
01:26:06,893 --> 01:26:09,293
Speaker 2: been about eighteen months that you've been running podcasts for.

1756
01:26:10,173 --> 01:26:12,612
Speaker 8: Well, yeah, it's closer to two years. I've just had

1757
01:26:12,652 --> 01:26:17,572
Speaker 8: my second verification, definitely got an a gain sot A

1758
01:26:17,612 --> 01:26:19,732
Speaker 8: press in a lot of stress to get it set

1759
01:26:19,853 --> 01:26:21,972
Speaker 8: up for the for the inspection.

1760
01:26:22,412 --> 01:26:30,572
Speaker 2: Are you are you profitable? Is this a part time

1761
01:26:30,612 --> 01:26:33,012
Speaker 2: business for you? Is it or is it your main gig?

1762
01:26:34,452 --> 01:26:38,213
Speaker 8: At this stage it's my main gig. I had changed

1763
01:26:38,933 --> 01:26:42,612
Speaker 8: jobs and the markets be quiet, so it's got into

1764
01:26:42,692 --> 01:26:45,652
Speaker 8: this and I love it, so I absolutely love it.

1765
01:26:46,053 --> 01:26:48,933
Speaker 3: Tell us about this bebode tie? Is that if I

1766
01:26:48,973 --> 01:26:49,492
Speaker 3: said that right?

1767
01:26:49,652 --> 01:26:49,772
Speaker 4: One?

1768
01:26:49,812 --> 01:26:54,732
Speaker 3: Are your dishes that looks amazing. It's a meat dish

1769
01:26:54,812 --> 01:26:56,692
Speaker 3: and is that cheese or is that something else on top?

1770
01:26:57,532 --> 01:27:00,932
Speaker 8: It's actually an egg custard. It's a it's a Cape

1771
01:27:01,013 --> 01:27:07,853
Speaker 8: Malay dish originally and it is considered our national dish.

1772
01:27:08,412 --> 01:27:10,772
Speaker 5: Delicious, It's really delicious.

1773
01:27:10,812 --> 01:27:15,572
Speaker 8: It's got fruits and nuts and spices and it's a

1774
01:27:15,612 --> 01:27:17,932
Speaker 8: great mix of culture South African food.

1775
01:27:18,133 --> 01:27:19,732
Speaker 2: Oh brilliant. Well, thank you so much for your call,

1776
01:27:19,893 --> 01:27:20,852
Speaker 2: m and all the best with that.

1777
01:27:20,933 --> 01:27:22,892
Speaker 8: Thank you for my call, thanks so much.

1778
01:27:23,133 --> 01:27:26,892
Speaker 2: Yeah, podcast go through brilliant See Bie, this is sheally

1779
01:27:26,933 --> 01:27:28,572
Speaker 2: great O eighte hundred. I want to try it now?

1780
01:27:28,652 --> 01:27:30,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too. I mean, have a look at this.

1781
01:27:30,293 --> 01:27:32,812
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm not that oa with anything the South

1782
01:27:32,853 --> 01:27:35,173
Speaker 2: African Philip, except for the brier and the and the

1783
01:27:35,173 --> 01:27:39,492
Speaker 2: bill toons good unless the BTI Biboti.

1784
01:27:39,173 --> 01:27:42,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, which apparently is the national dish of South Africa.

1785
01:27:42,053 --> 01:27:44,652
Speaker 3: But Pa D Koees dot co dot nz you can

1786
01:27:44,692 --> 01:27:47,773
Speaker 3: go check it out and support a great startup business.

1787
01:27:47,893 --> 01:27:49,892
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. So e one hundred and

1788
01:27:49,893 --> 01:27:52,532
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty we're talking about how hard it is

1789
01:27:52,572 --> 01:27:55,213
Speaker 2: to start up your own little food business in New Zealand.

1790
01:27:55,333 --> 01:27:55,532
Speaker 18: Yep.

1791
01:27:55,572 --> 01:28:00,852
Speaker 3: It is quarter past three, good afternoon, eighteen past three,

1792
01:28:01,013 --> 01:28:03,812
Speaker 3: and we're talking about setting up food businesses in New Zealand.

1793
01:28:03,893 --> 01:28:04,492
Speaker 3: Is it too hard?

1794
01:28:05,053 --> 01:28:07,293
Speaker 2: I think it's very hard to run a cafe or

1795
01:28:07,293 --> 01:28:11,013
Speaker 2: a bar in New Zealand. But cafes and bars are

1796
01:28:11,812 --> 01:28:15,333
Speaker 2: fantastic employers of people. They build things, they create community.

1797
01:28:15,532 --> 01:28:17,532
Speaker 2: And my friend Bill just texts me. He says, you know,

1798
01:28:17,612 --> 01:28:20,372
Speaker 2: the average lifespan of a new restaurant or cafe in

1799
01:28:20,372 --> 01:28:23,812
Speaker 2: this country is two years. So it's definitely very hard.

1800
01:28:24,053 --> 01:28:26,213
Speaker 2: And I've said it before on this on this show,

1801
01:28:26,253 --> 01:28:28,293
Speaker 2: and it's slightly off topic what we're talking about small

1802
01:28:28,412 --> 01:28:31,132
Speaker 2: food businesses, but I think there should be no tax

1803
01:28:31,253 --> 01:28:35,612
Speaker 2: on alcohol and alcohol sold in bars and restaurants. Tax

1804
01:28:35,652 --> 01:28:37,293
Speaker 2: it when it's sold and an off license, But in

1805
01:28:37,933 --> 01:28:39,933
Speaker 2: bars and restaurants where people go out to it and

1806
01:28:40,053 --> 01:28:42,652
Speaker 2: things have to be built and people have to be employed,

1807
01:28:42,812 --> 01:28:44,852
Speaker 2: there should be absolutely no tax on it. So we

1808
01:28:45,013 --> 01:28:49,013
Speaker 2: shift the drinking out of homes and into the community

1809
01:28:49,133 --> 01:28:51,772
Speaker 2: where you know, you have people looking out for people.

1810
01:28:52,612 --> 01:28:56,253
Speaker 2: It's safer, and it does good for society, you know,

1811
01:28:56,333 --> 01:28:57,572
Speaker 2: it does good for the economy.

1812
01:28:57,692 --> 01:29:00,333
Speaker 3: Makes sense Win Win one hundred and eighty ten eighties

1813
01:29:00,372 --> 01:29:01,012
Speaker 3: and number to call.

1814
01:29:02,013 --> 01:29:03,492
Speaker 2: Graham. You're a commercial caterer.

1815
01:29:05,812 --> 01:29:12,812
Speaker 3: Hey, Graham, Gray realm Gray Gray. He is there.

1816
01:29:12,933 --> 01:29:14,693
Speaker 2: I know you're there, Graham the Graymeaster.

1817
01:29:16,333 --> 01:29:18,173
Speaker 3: All right, we'll Graham. We're going to put you back

1818
01:29:18,213 --> 01:29:21,253
Speaker 3: to Andrew and just see what happened to poor old

1819
01:29:21,293 --> 01:29:24,732
Speaker 3: Graham the caterer. A couple of techs here, Gray Man,

1820
01:29:25,053 --> 01:29:28,692
Speaker 3: Gray Man, guys. Another great show, Thank you very much.

1821
01:29:28,732 --> 01:29:31,213
Speaker 3: Andy here thirty years ago, work for the Greek government.

1822
01:29:31,213 --> 01:29:33,852
Speaker 3: The ministers and office would eat at local stores, little restaurants,

1823
01:29:33,853 --> 01:29:38,333
Speaker 3: small eateries to warners now and then big fancy food restaurants,

1824
01:29:38,333 --> 01:29:42,012
Speaker 3: but mostly newly open foodies. I was a chauffeur. Great

1825
01:29:42,013 --> 01:29:42,852
Speaker 3: show again from Eddie.

1826
01:29:42,973 --> 01:29:46,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, hi, guys, I'm a food store operator at the

1827
01:29:46,532 --> 01:29:49,732
Speaker 2: Title Markets. We pay about one thousand per year to

1828
01:29:49,812 --> 01:29:53,452
Speaker 2: the council for a food control pound. What annoys us

1829
01:29:53,492 --> 01:29:57,172
Speaker 2: a lot is the storeholders as storeholders, as the market holders,

1830
01:29:57,333 --> 01:30:00,812
Speaker 2: for anyone to come to the market sell food without licenses. Yeah,

1831
01:30:00,853 --> 01:30:03,372
Speaker 2: and get rid of the licenses and let everyone's self food.

1832
01:30:03,412 --> 01:30:03,692
Speaker 5: Olo.

1833
01:30:03,812 --> 01:30:06,253
Speaker 2: But Graham, I think we've got you now.

1834
01:30:07,213 --> 01:30:08,173
Speaker 18: Yeah, how are you, guys?

1835
01:30:08,412 --> 01:30:08,812
Speaker 4: Blattery?

1836
01:30:08,893 --> 01:30:09,652
Speaker 3: Good great chat?

1837
01:30:10,772 --> 01:30:13,973
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, Taylor I'm a commercial cater I went for

1838
01:30:14,253 --> 01:30:17,852
Speaker 18: a large commercial cater company and I've got probably sixty

1839
01:30:17,893 --> 01:30:22,053
Speaker 18: CVR contracts across the ad Long Island, the lo and

1840
01:30:22,253 --> 01:30:25,652
Speaker 18: look it's not I also have a side hustle as well,

1841
01:30:25,652 --> 01:30:27,972
Speaker 18: where where we've just recently set up a coffee chat.

1842
01:30:28,893 --> 01:30:31,652
Speaker 18: So I can see it from tenterment perspectives. I don't

1843
01:30:31,652 --> 01:30:35,093
Speaker 18: think it's onerous. I think the rules are there for

1844
01:30:35,133 --> 01:30:38,333
Speaker 18: a very very good reason. We uplate across model sectors.

1845
01:30:38,372 --> 01:30:41,613
Speaker 18: So when you're dealing with age care and private hospitals

1846
01:30:41,692 --> 01:30:44,492
Speaker 18: versus education alls and stuff, I mean, it's some pretty

1847
01:30:44,532 --> 01:30:48,293
Speaker 18: vulnerable people out there, and and save food is so

1848
01:30:48,293 --> 01:30:52,173
Speaker 18: so important. So I don't think. I don't think the

1849
01:30:52,293 --> 01:30:55,492
Speaker 18: rules as they apply are onerous at all. I don't

1850
01:30:55,492 --> 01:30:58,612
Speaker 18: think it's difficult to set up the process at all.

1851
01:30:58,652 --> 01:30:59,372
Speaker 18: At takes is.

1852
01:31:03,732 --> 01:31:05,372
Speaker 3: Graham something Just when.

1853
01:31:05,412 --> 01:31:09,372
Speaker 2: Graham got a check by an alien, Yeah, it was

1854
01:31:09,412 --> 01:31:12,572
Speaker 2: making these makes You're back, Oh you back, crazy sound

1855
01:31:12,572 --> 01:31:14,053
Speaker 2: came out of your phone. You go back, Graham, You're

1856
01:31:14,053 --> 01:31:15,812
Speaker 2: scared us gream. You were saying that you don't think

1857
01:31:15,853 --> 01:31:23,652
Speaker 2: it's too onerous to set up this blows. Unfortunately, Graham's

1858
01:31:23,652 --> 01:31:25,572
Speaker 2: having terrible trouble with this phone.

1859
01:31:25,612 --> 01:31:26,932
Speaker 3: We'll take a break and see if we can get

1860
01:31:26,973 --> 01:31:29,452
Speaker 3: Graham back. But one hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1861
01:31:29,452 --> 01:31:31,253
Speaker 3: the number to call if you're setting up or have

1862
01:31:31,333 --> 01:31:33,372
Speaker 3: set up a food business. Love to hear from you.

1863
01:31:33,452 --> 01:31:36,213
Speaker 3: Are the regulations too strict? Twenty two past.

1864
01:31:35,933 --> 01:31:38,333
Speaker 2: Three, gut it about Graham's phone. He was making some

1865
01:31:38,372 --> 01:31:38,852
Speaker 2: good points.

1866
01:31:38,853 --> 01:31:46,732
Speaker 1: We'll get him back, Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons call oh,

1867
01:31:46,732 --> 01:31:49,493
Speaker 1: eight hundred eighty eighty On News Talk ZV.

1868
01:31:49,532 --> 01:31:50,972
Speaker 3: Twenty four past three.

1869
01:31:51,173 --> 01:31:52,973
Speaker 2: A lot of suggestions coming through from New Zealand of

1870
01:31:52,973 --> 01:31:54,293
Speaker 2: the Week on nine two nine two. A lot of

1871
01:31:54,293 --> 01:31:58,132
Speaker 2: people saying Liam Lawson, a lot of people saying Winston,

1872
01:31:58,173 --> 01:32:00,932
Speaker 2: Winston Peters. A lot of tips coming through for Winnie

1873
01:32:01,133 --> 01:32:04,013
Speaker 2: and liamb. But Liam is a great New Zealander. But

1874
01:32:04,173 --> 01:32:04,892
Speaker 2: is this a great.

1875
01:32:04,692 --> 01:32:05,773
Speaker 3: Week for him?

1876
01:32:05,812 --> 01:32:05,972
Speaker 5: Good?

1877
01:32:06,013 --> 01:32:06,173
Speaker 18: You know?

1878
01:32:07,013 --> 01:32:08,612
Speaker 2: Do you get New Zealand of the Week because you've

1879
01:32:08,612 --> 01:32:12,133
Speaker 2: been ill treated by your bosses? Are enough?

1880
01:32:12,173 --> 01:32:14,492
Speaker 3: Are we being let into the panel consideration right now?

1881
01:32:14,572 --> 01:32:15,172
Speaker 3: In lifetime?

1882
01:32:15,532 --> 01:32:15,772
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1883
01:32:15,853 --> 01:32:17,532
Speaker 3: Okay, the panel is still deciding.

1884
01:32:17,572 --> 01:32:18,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, the panel is still deciding.

1885
01:32:18,933 --> 01:32:19,492
Speaker 3: It's still time.

1886
01:32:19,812 --> 01:32:21,852
Speaker 2: Newsing of the Week not so long away, hey, Matt,

1887
01:32:21,853 --> 01:32:24,213
Speaker 2: we'd be eating bloody spiced cats and rats if they

1888
01:32:24,213 --> 01:32:26,612
Speaker 2: didn't do the checks. I'm a dairy farmer and we

1889
01:32:26,692 --> 01:32:28,892
Speaker 2: have to pass food and hygiene test every year, and

1890
01:32:28,933 --> 01:32:32,372
Speaker 2: the milk gets tested daily. So you're not you, so

1891
01:32:32,652 --> 01:32:35,013
Speaker 2: you not expect the sort of quality checks to be

1892
01:32:35,053 --> 01:32:40,613
Speaker 2: done thanks to Yeah, like I totally support milk being checked. Yeah, absolutely,

1893
01:32:40,772 --> 01:32:44,333
Speaker 2: and you know we do do. We have great milk.

1894
01:32:44,492 --> 01:32:46,932
Speaker 2: But I still think that if I'm willing to feed

1895
01:32:47,213 --> 01:32:49,053
Speaker 2: food to my kids, then I should be allowed to

1896
01:32:49,053 --> 01:32:49,772
Speaker 2: sell it on the street.

1897
01:32:49,973 --> 01:32:51,452
Speaker 3: This is your famous chili.

1898
01:32:51,612 --> 01:32:55,933
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the difference. You have people that are you know, certified,

1899
01:32:55,973 --> 01:32:58,372
Speaker 2: and people that are scared can go to them, and

1900
01:32:58,492 --> 01:33:00,772
Speaker 2: people that just want to risk Matt's chili out the

1901
01:33:00,812 --> 01:33:03,213
Speaker 2: front of my house on a trestle table. Then you know,

1902
01:33:03,253 --> 01:33:06,933
Speaker 2: the brave people, people that I respect, that want to

1903
01:33:06,973 --> 01:33:10,452
Speaker 2: roll the dice of life, then then they can come

1904
01:33:10,452 --> 01:33:13,213
Speaker 2: to Mats chilli. It's a courage test, Cleam Lawson. Show

1905
01:33:13,253 --> 01:33:15,213
Speaker 2: him the country is behind him. The country is behind you,

1906
01:33:15,253 --> 01:33:16,652
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, behind you?

1907
01:33:16,772 --> 01:33:19,692
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, all right? Eighty is a number to

1908
01:33:19,732 --> 01:33:22,173
Speaker 3: call Marlene.

1909
01:33:22,692 --> 01:33:24,093
Speaker 2: You're on food transport.

1910
01:33:24,612 --> 01:33:29,133
Speaker 8: Oh hey, guys, nice to catch up with you again. Yes,

1911
01:33:29,293 --> 01:33:31,572
Speaker 8: and hey, can I just put Matt's name and for

1912
01:33:31,692 --> 01:33:33,012
Speaker 8: New Zealander after week?

1913
01:33:34,973 --> 01:33:36,652
Speaker 3: Should you want to do that? Marlene? You know I'm

1914
01:33:36,652 --> 01:33:38,412
Speaker 3: looking at his little face right now and he's very

1915
01:33:38,412 --> 01:33:39,252
Speaker 3: heavy with himself.

1916
01:33:39,893 --> 01:33:42,372
Speaker 8: I know he is. But you know earlier this week

1917
01:33:42,412 --> 01:33:44,852
Speaker 8: when he was talking about his son moving out, Oh

1918
01:33:44,893 --> 01:33:47,933
Speaker 8: my gosh, I almost wanted to drive over to the

1919
01:33:47,973 --> 01:33:51,933
Speaker 8: studio and give you a hut that So for you,

1920
01:33:54,053 --> 01:33:56,852
Speaker 8: you know, we're all in the same boat. So on point,

1921
01:33:57,133 --> 01:34:00,213
Speaker 8: nominate Matt and that's it. You'll get a lot of

1922
01:34:00,293 --> 01:34:00,812
Speaker 8: votes for that.

1923
01:34:00,933 --> 01:34:04,213
Speaker 2: So well, thank you, Marline. You'll be pleased to know

1924
01:34:04,213 --> 01:34:06,372
Speaker 2: I was just texting him and Dneda and just during

1925
01:34:06,652 --> 01:34:09,452
Speaker 2: the air break then, and he is fine at sixteen

1926
01:34:09,452 --> 01:34:10,532
Speaker 2: degrees down there lies.

1927
01:34:10,732 --> 01:34:14,972
Speaker 8: Oh that's amazing. You've done a good job. So well done. Hey.

1928
01:34:15,213 --> 01:34:20,092
Speaker 8: So here's another part of the food license that people

1929
01:34:20,173 --> 01:34:22,692
Speaker 8: need to know about is that so I work at

1930
01:34:22,692 --> 01:34:27,013
Speaker 8: a transport company. We do freight and so we have

1931
01:34:27,093 --> 01:34:31,173
Speaker 8: to have two licenses and the licensing is really expensive.

1932
01:34:32,053 --> 01:34:35,012
Speaker 8: The one is the local council, which is Auckland Council

1933
01:34:35,692 --> 01:34:39,652
Speaker 8: and we have to of course bake to have our

1934
01:34:39,812 --> 01:34:43,812
Speaker 8: business assessed. And believe you me, those people I don't

1935
01:34:43,812 --> 01:34:47,213
Speaker 8: know where they come from, but they really harsh. It's

1936
01:34:47,253 --> 01:34:52,012
Speaker 8: almost like they have to find something wrong to justify

1937
01:34:52,173 --> 01:34:55,812
Speaker 8: the payment. It's really expensive. You're looking at about five

1938
01:34:55,893 --> 01:34:58,532
Speaker 8: thousand dollars just to get someone to come and sit

1939
01:34:58,612 --> 01:35:01,973
Speaker 8: in the office for like three to five hours. The

1940
01:35:02,732 --> 01:35:05,812
Speaker 8: other license that is really harsh on us is our

1941
01:35:05,973 --> 01:35:10,452
Speaker 8: MPI license because we carry x fright. Now, if you

1942
01:35:10,492 --> 01:35:13,372
Speaker 8: don't have the license, you you can't carry that fright.

1943
01:35:13,893 --> 01:35:16,852
Speaker 8: And it's basically from point A two point B. And

1944
01:35:17,692 --> 01:35:20,133
Speaker 8: just the audit fee on that once a year is

1945
01:35:20,213 --> 01:35:26,293
Speaker 8: ten thousand dollars. WHOA wow, Yeah, and yeah, it's it's

1946
01:35:26,333 --> 01:35:29,412
Speaker 8: super expensive. And would you believe it. We've just had

1947
01:35:29,492 --> 01:35:33,452
Speaker 8: an ordit and the auditor she was really struggling to

1948
01:35:33,532 --> 01:35:37,772
Speaker 8: find something on to fail us, or to say not

1949
01:35:37,893 --> 01:35:43,532
Speaker 8: fail but non compliant, and she ended up finding us

1950
01:35:43,612 --> 01:35:48,452
Speaker 8: on documents that she said, oh, you guys didn't list

1951
01:35:48,492 --> 01:35:52,532
Speaker 8: this properly, and the two previous audits not one of

1952
01:35:52,572 --> 01:35:55,132
Speaker 8: those auditors actually raised that point.

1953
01:35:56,053 --> 01:35:58,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. I think you're right, Marlene. And

1954
01:35:58,572 --> 01:36:01,532
Speaker 2: you know I've had safety inspectors for certain things like that.

1955
01:36:02,093 --> 01:36:04,652
Speaker 2: And sometimes you feel and this isn't exactly the same,

1956
01:36:04,692 --> 01:36:07,452
Speaker 2: but this is on film sets and various things, and

1957
01:36:07,612 --> 01:36:10,052
Speaker 2: you feel like they they need to cut They feel

1958
01:36:10,093 --> 01:36:12,692
Speaker 2: pressure to come up with something just to justify them

1959
01:36:12,853 --> 01:36:13,293
Speaker 2: being there.

1960
01:36:14,213 --> 01:36:17,532
Speaker 8: Yeah, to justify their jobs and to justify if she's

1961
01:36:17,572 --> 01:36:21,333
Speaker 8: spent ten thousand dollars, like she needs to prove she's

1962
01:36:21,412 --> 01:36:25,572
Speaker 8: done her job properly. Yes, and actually just decide to

1963
01:36:25,612 --> 01:36:28,893
Speaker 8: have business. Well, you've ticked all the boxes. Well done.

1964
01:36:29,133 --> 01:36:33,173
Speaker 8: That doesn't happen anymore. It's like they've got this mentality

1965
01:36:33,412 --> 01:36:37,092
Speaker 8: of I've got to fail you on something to justify

1966
01:36:37,173 --> 01:36:41,852
Speaker 8: their existence. And I totally understand. To get the business,

1967
01:36:41,893 --> 01:36:45,412
Speaker 8: you need the licensing. I get that, but it's really

1968
01:36:45,492 --> 01:36:48,812
Speaker 8: it's not fair on the businesses it is. It's almost

1969
01:36:48,853 --> 01:36:53,852
Speaker 8: like the counselor is doing by implementing these regulations to

1970
01:36:54,093 --> 01:36:55,372
Speaker 8: make more money out of you.

1971
01:36:55,692 --> 01:36:57,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we get a lot of that, Marline, people

1972
01:36:57,652 --> 01:37:01,412
Speaker 3: justifying their jobs when if it's all okay, just tick

1973
01:37:01,452 --> 01:37:02,253
Speaker 3: the box and move on.

1974
01:37:02,492 --> 01:37:04,412
Speaker 2: Thank you for your call, Marlene, and thank you for

1975
01:37:04,452 --> 01:37:08,812
Speaker 2: your nice words as well. You made me feel good, Matt. Sorry, bro,

1976
01:37:09,093 --> 01:37:13,572
Speaker 2: says Brendan. But people die from poorly prepared food, especially

1977
01:37:13,652 --> 01:37:16,492
Speaker 2: chicken and lamb. Food poisoning is no joke, guys. Some

1978
01:37:16,612 --> 01:37:19,932
Speaker 2: reduction in the cost and restrictions would be wouldn't be bad,

1979
01:37:20,173 --> 01:37:23,412
Speaker 2: but not a free for all. Yeah, I mean, part

1980
01:37:23,412 --> 01:37:25,093
Speaker 2: of me just thinks it needs to be weighted in

1981
01:37:25,133 --> 01:37:27,853
Speaker 2: another way. It's interesting that you get charged for these inspections.

1982
01:37:27,853 --> 01:37:30,133
Speaker 2: So these are ways that stop businesses when really we

1983
01:37:30,173 --> 01:37:32,333
Speaker 2: want more and more businesses and people to be giving

1984
01:37:32,333 --> 01:37:34,892
Speaker 2: it a go. So it just needs to be weighted

1985
01:37:34,933 --> 01:37:37,772
Speaker 2: towards things happening. I mean, I personally believe that I

1986
01:37:37,772 --> 01:37:39,492
Speaker 2: should be allowed to just sell my chili out in

1987
01:37:39,492 --> 01:37:41,213
Speaker 2: the front of my house, okay, because I'm willing to

1988
01:37:41,213 --> 01:37:43,172
Speaker 2: feed it to my kits don't like it. It's disgusting,

1989
01:37:43,213 --> 01:37:44,532
Speaker 2: but I'm willing to feed it to them because I

1990
01:37:44,572 --> 01:37:47,532
Speaker 2: know it won't hurt them. But I understand that that

1991
01:37:47,532 --> 01:37:50,213
Speaker 2: that that's not going to happen on big companies, and

1992
01:37:50,253 --> 01:37:52,133
Speaker 2: it's not going to happen. It's just not going to happen.

1993
01:37:52,133 --> 01:37:54,052
Speaker 2: The world's never going to get there. But the idea

1994
01:37:54,093 --> 01:37:55,732
Speaker 2: that you have to pay for the inspectors to come

1995
01:37:55,732 --> 01:37:58,213
Speaker 2: out there should just be a set of religion regulations.

1996
01:37:58,253 --> 01:38:01,732
Speaker 2: You tick it off and maybe they come past and

1997
01:38:01,772 --> 01:38:03,812
Speaker 2: they check in and you in the same way that

1998
01:38:03,933 --> 01:38:07,293
Speaker 2: the ID doesn't audit on certain amounts of people. And

1999
01:38:07,372 --> 01:38:11,372
Speaker 2: maybe there's thish fines if you're breaking it. But decide

2000
01:38:11,372 --> 01:38:14,572
Speaker 2: on some sensible regulations and you comply with them, and

2001
01:38:15,253 --> 01:38:17,732
Speaker 2: that's that's that's on you. That's the onus on you.

2002
01:38:17,973 --> 01:38:20,213
Speaker 2: Like a lot of laws, like you know, the laws

2003
01:38:20,253 --> 01:38:22,492
Speaker 2: don't embezzle money from your company, right.

2004
01:38:22,372 --> 01:38:24,852
Speaker 3: It's pretty good law that one. Yeah, Yeah, it's gross.

2005
01:38:24,893 --> 01:38:25,572
Speaker 2: People follow it.

2006
01:38:25,692 --> 01:38:27,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's no no one coming.

2007
01:38:27,492 --> 01:38:30,532
Speaker 2: Around saying hey you and bizzling over here, though, Tyler,

2008
01:38:30,572 --> 01:38:33,892
Speaker 2: you might be embuzzling money from the matintola afternoons on

2009
01:38:34,013 --> 01:38:36,213
Speaker 2: zb every day. I don't know. Yeah, but I'm not

2010
01:38:36,452 --> 01:38:38,493
Speaker 2: getting someone to inspect you all the time.

2011
01:38:38,412 --> 01:38:40,293
Speaker 3: Which is a good thing. Oh, e one hundred eighty

2012
01:38:40,372 --> 01:38:42,572
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. I'm not saying

2013
01:38:42,612 --> 01:38:44,372
Speaker 3: I'm abusling. I'm just saying it's a good thing. I'm

2014
01:38:44,372 --> 01:38:48,093
Speaker 3: not being checked. It is twenty nine to four headlines

2015
01:38:48,133 --> 01:38:48,572
Speaker 3: coming up.

2016
01:38:51,093 --> 01:38:54,412
Speaker 15: You talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

2017
01:38:54,412 --> 01:38:57,852
Speaker 15: no trouble with a blue bubble. Wellington's mayor says her

2018
01:38:57,933 --> 01:39:02,052
Speaker 15: Council's long raised concerns and is welcoming the local government

2019
01:39:02,093 --> 01:39:05,732
Speaker 15: minister calling and the Commerce Commission to monitor Wellington water.

2020
01:39:06,253 --> 01:39:09,452
Speaker 15: The Prime Minister says the government hasn't received a funding

2021
01:39:09,532 --> 01:39:13,532
Speaker 15: request to help upgrade Auckland's Eden Park, which the City

2022
01:39:13,572 --> 01:39:17,412
Speaker 15: Council has now officially supported. Chris Luxon says there is

2023
01:39:17,492 --> 01:39:21,452
Speaker 15: a high bar for investment and schools, hospitals and roads

2024
01:39:21,492 --> 01:39:24,732
Speaker 15: are more worthy of government money, and the Government has

2025
01:39:24,772 --> 01:39:28,972
Speaker 15: released a discussion document on improving health recruitment and training

2026
01:39:29,013 --> 01:39:33,852
Speaker 15: in health and smoothing registration for those qualified overseas. The

2027
01:39:33,973 --> 01:39:38,092
Speaker 15: Department of Conservation is revving up as stoke trapping after

2028
01:39:38,213 --> 01:39:42,853
Speaker 15: Ford Tarkahay died recently near Queenstown. It has increased monitoring,

2029
01:39:42,933 --> 01:39:46,572
Speaker 15: installed more traps, brought in a detected dog and is

2030
01:39:46,692 --> 01:39:50,772
Speaker 15: using baited trail cameras. A ban on fireworks and sky

2031
01:39:50,893 --> 01:39:54,692
Speaker 15: lanterns in Hawkes Bay has been extended by another month.

2032
01:39:55,333 --> 01:40:00,213
Speaker 15: The country's largest sewerage tunnel, crossing more than sixteen kilometers

2033
01:40:00,293 --> 01:40:05,253
Speaker 15: through Auckland, has officially been completed. Today is Zellen versus

2034
01:40:05,293 --> 01:40:10,692
Speaker 15: Australia over seventies cricket Test match showcases Golden Oldies Sport.

2035
01:40:11,173 --> 01:40:13,933
Speaker 15: You can read more about that at Enzied Herald Premium.

2036
01:40:14,013 --> 01:40:16,012
Speaker 15: Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

2037
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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Susie. And we're talking about regulations.

2038
01:40:18,652 --> 01:40:21,652
Speaker 3: Are regulations when it comes to sitting up a food business?

2039
01:40:21,692 --> 01:40:24,812
Speaker 3: Should they be a little bit more flexible or reduced

2040
01:40:24,812 --> 01:40:27,692
Speaker 3: just to make it easier for people to do something

2041
01:40:27,732 --> 01:40:29,732
Speaker 3: that is good for society. As a wholders start a

2042
01:40:29,772 --> 01:40:32,492
Speaker 3: business and sell food, which we can all agree is

2043
01:40:32,492 --> 01:40:34,093
Speaker 3: a good thing for the country. Oh, eight hundred and

2044
01:40:34,093 --> 01:40:35,372
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

2045
01:40:35,732 --> 01:40:37,372
Speaker 2: I was saying before that we need to wait the

2046
01:40:37,412 --> 01:40:40,213
Speaker 2: tax system on our cool towards HOSPO and away from

2047
01:40:40,412 --> 01:40:43,973
Speaker 2: off license our coal purchase. And someone said, are you

2048
01:40:44,013 --> 01:40:47,972
Speaker 2: an idiot? Safer at bars? How's it safer at bars?

2049
01:40:48,013 --> 01:40:50,572
Speaker 2: People drive home drunk? Well, no, not everyone that goes

2050
01:40:50,572 --> 01:40:52,333
Speaker 2: to a bar drives home drunk. I go to bars

2051
01:40:52,372 --> 01:40:54,293
Speaker 2: and restaurants all the time. I don't drive home drunk.

2052
01:40:54,372 --> 01:40:57,372
Speaker 2: My point was that bars and restaurants employ people, and

2053
01:40:57,452 --> 01:41:00,253
Speaker 2: they build and they are part of the community. Rather

2054
01:41:00,253 --> 01:41:02,732
Speaker 2: than someone just going and buying a trolley load full

2055
01:41:02,772 --> 01:41:04,452
Speaker 2: of one, one, two fives of gin and taking them

2056
01:41:04,492 --> 01:41:05,652
Speaker 2: home and that's not safe.

2057
01:41:05,893 --> 01:41:08,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's not like those people. We ever drive drunk.

2058
01:41:09,772 --> 01:41:12,893
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your techs though, David, have

2059
01:41:13,053 --> 01:41:13,853
Speaker 3: you this afternoon?

2060
01:41:14,692 --> 01:41:18,333
Speaker 10: Hello Merton, Tyler and Tyler and Matt.

2061
01:41:20,452 --> 01:41:23,293
Speaker 2: It's always Mett and Tyler. That's the only way, however

2062
01:41:23,333 --> 01:41:24,493
Speaker 2: you want to say it, David.

2063
01:41:24,973 --> 01:41:30,412
Speaker 10: Well, I thought I thought it was only two of you. Sorry. Look,

2064
01:41:31,173 --> 01:41:35,653
Speaker 10: I suppose that red tape around setting up food premises.

2065
01:41:38,293 --> 01:41:41,293
Speaker 10: I don't have any experience from doing that. I wouldn't

2066
01:41:41,293 --> 01:41:45,173
Speaker 10: want to pause myself and from my own cooking. But

2067
01:41:46,572 --> 01:41:50,932
Speaker 10: my mind said is that the more red tape, the better.

2068
01:41:51,492 --> 01:41:53,772
Speaker 10: To be honest, have any have either of you been

2069
01:41:55,572 --> 01:42:00,172
Speaker 10: strucken down with food pausing from a food outlet.

2070
01:42:00,732 --> 01:42:03,972
Speaker 2: I had this terrible secumstance to David after COVID when

2071
01:42:03,973 --> 01:42:05,932
Speaker 2: we could first ordering food, the first time we could

2072
01:42:05,973 --> 01:42:07,932
Speaker 2: order in food, I ordered some dumplings on our site

2073
01:42:07,933 --> 01:42:10,652
Speaker 2: side about them, and everyone in the family vomited. I

2074
01:42:10,652 --> 01:42:13,652
Speaker 2: think what happened is that the freezers had shut down

2075
01:42:13,732 --> 01:42:16,053
Speaker 2: during COVID or something. They had been a power cut

2076
01:42:16,053 --> 01:42:17,572
Speaker 2: and they came back on. But it was not good.

2077
01:42:17,612 --> 01:42:18,452
Speaker 2: It was not good. David.

2078
01:42:19,253 --> 01:42:23,132
Speaker 10: No, it's not. I've been caught many times, and yes

2079
01:42:23,133 --> 01:42:27,293
Speaker 10: there was the grace of God for the health department. Look,

2080
01:42:28,692 --> 01:42:33,492
Speaker 10: just a quick story. I live in a small near

2081
01:42:33,492 --> 01:42:36,333
Speaker 10: a small town that I go into my favorite pie

2082
01:42:36,372 --> 01:42:40,612
Speaker 10: and pastry shop for years and no problems. But one

2083
01:42:40,652 --> 01:42:43,412
Speaker 10: day I went in a few years years ago, and

2084
01:42:43,612 --> 01:42:46,253
Speaker 10: cerddenly got sick the next day, and I said, what

2085
01:42:46,412 --> 01:42:49,452
Speaker 10: the hell? And I worked well, I didn't work it out,

2086
01:42:49,492 --> 01:42:53,612
Speaker 10: but I figured that. I found out that husband and

2087
01:42:53,652 --> 01:42:57,932
Speaker 10: wife team had sold the business, which was very good business,

2088
01:42:59,412 --> 01:43:09,333
Speaker 10: little lovely pies and things, to their their sons and daughters. Man. Yeah, yeah,

2089
01:43:09,372 --> 01:43:10,772
Speaker 10: old town just about dives.

2090
01:43:11,532 --> 01:43:14,253
Speaker 3: That'll get you. Yeah, untrained sons and daughters.

2091
01:43:14,333 --> 01:43:16,772
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right, risky, Yeah, absolutely right.

2092
01:43:16,812 --> 01:43:19,372
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for all your ticks and phone

2093
01:43:19,372 --> 01:43:21,133
Speaker 3: calls on that one. Great discussion.

2094
01:43:22,253 --> 01:43:25,012
Speaker 2: If you if you're in the wider mountain and area,

2095
01:43:25,492 --> 01:43:28,812
Speaker 2: lookout for Matt's Chili's, Maddie's Chilis. I'll be sitting up

2096
01:43:28,812 --> 01:43:31,933
Speaker 2: a trestle table and illegally selling my chilies, and I

2097
01:43:31,973 --> 01:43:34,253
Speaker 2: guarantee I won't poison anyone. So now you know which

2098
01:43:34,253 --> 01:43:38,812
Speaker 2: streets I sell. I'll eat a pottle myself, just to

2099
01:43:38,893 --> 01:43:39,972
Speaker 2: prove that they're not poisoned.

2100
01:43:40,013 --> 01:43:42,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, right, it is twenty two to four,

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01:43:42,973 --> 01:43:44,372
Speaker 3: beg very shortly here on News Talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be.

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01:43:46,452 --> 01:43:50,053
Speaker 1: A fresh take on Talkback Matt and Taylor Afternoons with

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Speaker 1: the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

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Speaker 4: Have your say on.

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01:43:55,293 --> 01:44:00,652
Speaker 3: Eight US Talks b Afternoon. It is nineteen to four.

2107
01:44:00,812 --> 01:44:03,492
Speaker 3: So one of the biggest sports stories in the world

2108
01:44:03,572 --> 01:44:06,572
Speaker 3: right now is of course Liam Lawson confirmed that he

2109
01:44:06,732 --> 01:44:09,372
Speaker 3: is out of the top tier Red Ball racing team

2110
01:44:09,412 --> 01:44:11,772
Speaker 3: and back to racing Bulls. So we've got New Zealand

2111
01:44:11,812 --> 01:44:14,652
Speaker 3: Herald sports reporter Alex poelback and studiout have a young

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01:44:14,732 --> 01:44:15,213
Speaker 3: can I mate?

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01:44:15,253 --> 01:44:15,652
Speaker 24: Hey mate?

2114
01:44:15,692 --> 01:44:18,093
Speaker 3: How are we very good? So, as you mentioned, it

2115
01:44:18,133 --> 01:44:21,532
Speaker 3: was pretty much done and dusted and confirmed last night.

2116
01:44:21,652 --> 01:44:24,173
Speaker 3: So what has been the fullback so far from Red

2117
01:44:24,213 --> 01:44:24,652
Speaker 3: Bull team?

2118
01:44:25,253 --> 01:44:26,973
Speaker 24: I mean Red Bull are raally copping a lot of

2119
01:44:26,973 --> 01:44:29,173
Speaker 24: heat for this, as I mean you'd expect they've done

2120
01:44:29,213 --> 01:44:31,612
Speaker 24: to twenty three year old kid after two races and

2121
01:44:31,652 --> 01:44:33,932
Speaker 24: now there's a lot of focus on his actual well

2122
01:44:34,013 --> 01:44:35,173
Speaker 24: being and his future.

2123
01:44:34,853 --> 01:44:35,412
Speaker 2: As a driver.

2124
01:44:35,492 --> 01:44:37,093
Speaker 24: Will there's be a two bag of blow to come

2125
01:44:37,133 --> 01:44:37,772
Speaker 24: back from.

2126
01:44:37,893 --> 01:44:41,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so where are we sitting, Where are we

2127
01:44:41,612 --> 01:44:44,652
Speaker 2: sitting right now? Where are we sitting? And what's the

2128
01:44:44,692 --> 01:44:48,732
Speaker 2: messaging right now from Red Bull?

2129
01:44:49,572 --> 01:44:52,492
Speaker 24: I mean, yeah, Red Bull have I mean they're taking it.

2130
01:44:53,213 --> 01:44:54,973
Speaker 24: So they're doing no media because they know what kind

2131
01:44:55,013 --> 01:44:57,652
Speaker 24: of questions they're going to get. No, But the messaging

2132
01:44:57,652 --> 01:44:59,852
Speaker 24: they're putting out is that they're supporting Liam like this

2133
01:45:00,053 --> 01:45:02,892
Speaker 24: is very much what I believe is to be a

2134
01:45:02,933 --> 01:45:06,052
Speaker 24: sort of act of mercy they for as long term sake.

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01:45:06,253 --> 01:45:08,053
Speaker 24: If he was to stay in that Red Bull car,

2136
01:45:08,093 --> 01:45:10,412
Speaker 24: which we know it's difficult to drive, it would end

2137
01:45:10,492 --> 01:45:12,452
Speaker 24: up being more harm than good. So they've moved Yuki

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01:45:12,532 --> 01:45:14,732
Speaker 24: Sineta in a bit more experienced suddenly and back to

2139
01:45:14,812 --> 01:45:16,652
Speaker 24: racing balls where he's done well in the past, and

2140
01:45:16,812 --> 01:45:18,412
Speaker 24: sort of see how the year plays out.

2141
01:45:18,732 --> 01:45:25,012
Speaker 2: So what about the Instagram post that was suggesting bullying

2142
01:45:25,772 --> 01:45:29,692
Speaker 2: was part of it and the post being liked by

2143
01:45:30,732 --> 01:45:33,333
Speaker 2: the Steppin Yeah people, his.

2144
01:45:33,372 --> 01:45:35,932
Speaker 24: People, I would imagine Maxims Stappin doesn't run his own

2145
01:45:35,933 --> 01:45:39,012
Speaker 24: Instagram account. It's an interesting isn't it. It shows how

2146
01:45:39,612 --> 01:45:42,652
Speaker 24: he mean, even the Red Bull themselves internally feel about

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Speaker 24: it that this is a really young kid who's been

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01:45:45,812 --> 01:45:46,932
Speaker 24: properly hard done.

2149
01:45:46,692 --> 01:45:50,892
Speaker 2: By Yeah, and so would they now admit they made

2150
01:45:50,893 --> 01:45:54,612
Speaker 2: a mist Is it basically just a big mistake moving

2151
01:45:54,652 --> 01:45:56,812
Speaker 2: him up there? It's hard to say.

2152
01:45:56,893 --> 01:45:59,253
Speaker 24: I mean time will ultimately tell of it's a mistake.

2153
01:45:59,293 --> 01:46:00,973
Speaker 24: If he sinks from here, they'd probably say, I know,

2154
01:46:01,093 --> 01:46:02,772
Speaker 24: we gave him too much too soon, and he's not

2155
01:46:02,812 --> 01:46:04,492
Speaker 24: been on the handle it. But why they put him

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01:46:04,532 --> 01:46:05,732
Speaker 24: in there, And we spoke about this the other day,

2157
01:46:05,812 --> 01:46:09,412
Speaker 24: was they know how mentally tough and resiliently they'll absolutely

2158
01:46:09,412 --> 01:46:10,412
Speaker 24: back them to come right here.

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01:46:11,013 --> 01:46:14,612
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, And so the fact that he is back

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01:46:14,652 --> 01:46:17,092
Speaker 3: to racing bulls, he's not out of the team all together?

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01:46:17,412 --> 01:46:20,452
Speaker 3: Can we as a country because we're collectively gutted and

2162
01:46:20,532 --> 01:46:23,093
Speaker 3: backing Liam here? But there's some saving grace with that

2163
01:46:23,133 --> 01:46:26,253
Speaker 3: scenario and his Formula one dream is not dead.

2164
01:46:26,492 --> 01:46:29,532
Speaker 24: No, absolutely not. And to be honest, I look at

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01:46:29,532 --> 01:46:32,492
Speaker 24: this as actually a vote of confidence and Liam Lawson.

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01:46:32,532 --> 01:46:34,892
Speaker 24: So we know the link between Honda and Red Bull,

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01:46:34,893 --> 01:46:37,452
Speaker 24: and that's why Yuki Snoda has got the gig, but

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01:46:37,652 --> 01:46:40,253
Speaker 24: Red Bull sorry Racing Balls. Reserve driver is a young

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01:46:40,333 --> 01:46:43,013
Speaker 24: kid called aum or Usa who was also Japanese and

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01:46:43,013 --> 01:46:45,013
Speaker 24: it was also Honda backed. If Red Bull didn't have

2171
01:46:45,053 --> 01:46:46,812
Speaker 24: faith in Liam Lawson to bounce back from this, they

2172
01:46:46,853 --> 01:46:48,053
Speaker 24: would have got rid of them all together and they

2173
01:46:48,053 --> 01:46:50,692
Speaker 24: would have gone to Suzuka with two Japanese drivers, two

2174
01:46:50,732 --> 01:46:53,093
Speaker 24: Honda back drivers, one in each team. And the fact

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01:46:53,133 --> 01:46:55,452
Speaker 24: they haven't done that for me says quite a lot.

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01:46:56,333 --> 01:46:59,572
Speaker 2: So what are we wanting to see next week from

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01:46:59,612 --> 01:47:03,253
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson? I mean, getting on the podem No, I

2178
01:47:03,253 --> 01:47:05,932
Speaker 2: think even a possibility. I mean it's always a possibility.

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01:47:06,013 --> 01:47:07,692
Speaker 2: Japan's a pretty crazy race, but I think if you're

2180
01:47:07,692 --> 01:47:09,692
Speaker 2: going and go out and expect it, you might be

2181
01:47:09,692 --> 01:47:12,612
Speaker 2: a bit disappointed. But I think just improvement, that's, you know,

2182
01:47:13,093 --> 01:47:15,692
Speaker 2: a good result. Maybe finishing, you know, in the top

2183
01:47:15,732 --> 01:47:17,452
Speaker 2: ten would be amazing, finishing.

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Speaker 24: Being Sonoda. I mean, look, it's hard to say because

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01:47:22,933 --> 01:47:26,813
Speaker 24: that sort of track, the high speed corners that Suzuka

2186
01:47:26,853 --> 01:47:29,133
Speaker 24: is is actually what this Red Bull car that's so

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01:47:29,173 --> 01:47:31,293
Speaker 24: difficult to drive has been designed for. So if Yuki

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01:47:31,372 --> 01:47:33,213
Speaker 24: comes out and has a really good race, it's not

2189
01:47:33,213 --> 01:47:34,892
Speaker 24: going to be too surprising, but it will just make

2190
01:47:34,933 --> 01:47:35,972
Speaker 24: things look a bit worse.

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01:47:36,293 --> 01:47:36,572
Speaker 18: Yeah.

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01:47:36,692 --> 01:47:40,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good, interesting as always, and we will catch

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01:47:40,253 --> 01:47:42,772
Speaker 3: up again maybe next week ahead of that race, and

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Speaker 3: just see how things are tracking.

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01:47:44,652 --> 01:47:47,333
Speaker 2: There's a lot of anti red bull rhetoric coming through

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01:47:47,412 --> 01:47:51,612
Speaker 2: in the in the text blaming the drink, which I

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01:47:51,652 --> 01:47:54,093
Speaker 2: don't know if that's fair. Yeah, wow, kind I mean

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01:47:54,173 --> 01:47:55,173
Speaker 2: I started it, but you know.

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Speaker 3: Alex, thanks very much. Make have a nice weekend. Right,

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01:47:59,253 --> 01:48:01,213
Speaker 3: we're right coming up very shortly, we are going to

2201
01:48:01,253 --> 01:48:02,973
Speaker 3: have new Zealander of the Week. But there's been some

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01:48:03,013 --> 01:48:05,253
Speaker 3: great nominations that have come through.

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01:48:05,812 --> 01:48:09,493
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. There's lot nominations for Liam Lawson, nominations

2204
01:48:09,492 --> 01:48:11,412
Speaker 2: for the all Whites coming through. A lot of people

2205
01:48:11,452 --> 01:48:13,772
Speaker 2: think that Winston Peters should be the new Zealander of

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01:48:14,532 --> 01:48:17,372
Speaker 2: the week. There's a few for me as new Zealand

2207
01:48:17,412 --> 01:48:19,892
Speaker 2: of the week. Oh no, that's for me to shut

2208
01:48:19,973 --> 01:48:23,692
Speaker 2: up and go away. But yeah, it's it's still tight.

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01:48:23,772 --> 01:48:26,893
Speaker 2: But I have to knuckle down and decide who the

2210
01:48:26,933 --> 01:48:29,412
Speaker 2: new Zealand of the Week is going to be. Right now, yep,

2211
01:48:29,532 --> 01:48:30,652
Speaker 2: here here we go.

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01:48:30,812 --> 01:48:34,532
Speaker 3: It is fourteen two four.

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01:48:36,133 --> 01:48:39,612
Speaker 1: Mattie than Tyler Adams.

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01:48:40,572 --> 01:48:42,492
Speaker 2: Every Friday on matt and Tyler Afternoons, we name the

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01:48:42,492 --> 01:48:44,412
Speaker 2: new Zealander of the Week and honor that we bestow

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01:48:44,492 --> 01:48:46,253
Speaker 2: on your behalf to a newsmaker who has had an

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01:48:46,253 --> 01:48:48,532
Speaker 2: outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over the

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01:48:48,532 --> 01:48:51,132
Speaker 2: previous seven days. As always, there will be three nominees

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01:48:51,173 --> 01:48:53,333
Speaker 2: but only one winner, and I think we can all

2220
01:48:53,372 --> 01:48:55,372
Speaker 2: agree this New Zealand of the Week award is real

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01:48:55,532 --> 01:48:58,173
Speaker 2: and earned, not like most awards in twenty twenty five,

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01:48:58,492 --> 01:49:01,532
Speaker 2: which are a load of crack. So, without further ado,

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01:49:02,253 --> 01:49:05,013
Speaker 2: the nominees for Matt and Tyler Afternoons New Zealander of

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01:49:05,013 --> 01:49:08,493
Speaker 2: the Week are Nominee one also gets the Anti inflam

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01:49:08,532 --> 01:49:12,493
Speaker 2: and Heart Health Award. Our superstar agricultural sector is spearheading

2226
01:49:12,532 --> 01:49:15,372
Speaker 2: the country's recovery, and another product has joined the party

2227
01:49:15,412 --> 01:49:18,052
Speaker 2: with one hundred and twenty four million bucks for popping

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01:49:18,093 --> 01:49:21,532
Speaker 2: your cherry of five thousand export tons for the first

2229
01:49:21,532 --> 01:49:25,532
Speaker 2: time in history. You sexy cherry growers, you are nominated

2230
01:49:25,572 --> 01:49:26,612
Speaker 2: for New Zealander of the Week.

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01:49:27,652 --> 01:49:29,933
Speaker 3: Editing Yet nomine.

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01:49:29,532 --> 01:49:31,892
Speaker 2: Two also gets the ges You're Looking Good Mate Award.

2233
01:49:32,093 --> 01:49:33,892
Speaker 2: He's turning eighty in a couple of weeks but looks

2234
01:49:33,933 --> 01:49:36,052
Speaker 2: sixty five, and he puts it down to a purpose

2235
01:49:36,333 --> 01:49:39,372
Speaker 2: and life and munching fish heads. The man is sharp

2236
01:49:39,412 --> 01:49:41,492
Speaker 2: of suit and sharp of mind and may just live

2237
01:49:41,572 --> 01:49:44,452
Speaker 2: forever Winston Peters for failing to age for the last

2238
01:49:44,452 --> 01:49:47,692
Speaker 2: twenty years and preaching personal responsibility in key we Health.

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01:49:48,133 --> 01:49:51,652
Speaker 2: You are nominated for New Zealander of the Week World

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01:49:51,692 --> 01:49:54,612
Speaker 2: I'm winning impressive considering the matter whiskey and darts. The

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01:49:54,652 --> 01:49:57,412
Speaker 2: great Man has pounded over the years, but there can

2242
01:49:57,452 --> 01:50:02,093
Speaker 2: be only one, and this one is a very, very

2243
01:50:02,333 --> 01:50:05,532
Speaker 2: worthy recipient and also gets the Some Heroes Don't Wear

2244
01:50:05,652 --> 01:50:10,173
Speaker 2: Capes Award. Right here we go. Now, some idiot of

2245
01:50:10,173 --> 01:50:12,333
Speaker 2: an MP who should no better claim that all you

2246
01:50:12,412 --> 01:50:15,532
Speaker 2: do is throw homeless people's stuff in the bin, that

2247
01:50:15,612 --> 01:50:19,052
Speaker 2: New Zealanders don't feel safe when you're around, when actually

2248
01:50:19,173 --> 01:50:21,173
Speaker 2: you are doing the hardest and most dangerous job in

2249
01:50:21,173 --> 01:50:25,253
Speaker 2: the country. Crime stats are plummeting, and some goddamn appreciation

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01:50:25,412 --> 01:50:29,532
Speaker 2: would be nice. New Zealand's heroic beat cops. You are

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01:50:29,893 --> 01:50:34,652
Speaker 2: the Madame Tyler Afternoons, New Zealanders of the Week, who.

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01:50:37,853 --> 01:50:38,572
Speaker 4: You ain't heavy?

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01:50:39,812 --> 01:50:53,293
Speaker 22: That you are our brothers and sisters.

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01:50:53,253 --> 01:50:54,213
Speaker 2: She's really an MP.

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Speaker 3: Not for much longer.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the shoes, the big trends and everything

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01:51:10,772 --> 01:51:11,372
Speaker 1: in between.

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01:51:11,612 --> 01:51:12,733
Speaker 4: Matt and Tyler.

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01:51:12,492 --> 01:51:16,253
Speaker 1: Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety Attention to detail and

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01:51:16,333 --> 01:51:17,412
Speaker 1: a commitment to comfort.

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01:51:17,532 --> 01:51:20,293
Speaker 4: News Dogs DEBB, News.

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01:51:20,053 --> 01:51:22,973
Speaker 3: Dogs, EDB Afternoon. It's nine to four, So lots of

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01:51:23,013 --> 01:51:25,572
Speaker 3: things on around the country this weekend. And Wellington there's

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01:51:25,612 --> 01:51:28,412
Speaker 3: Cuba Dooper. The sheep Dog trials are on at Fugoday

2265
01:51:28,532 --> 01:51:31,572
Speaker 3: Heads and in Auckland there is Symphony. It's a sold

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01:51:31,572 --> 01:51:34,532
Speaker 3: out show and if you've ever wondered what sandstorm sounds

2267
01:51:34,572 --> 01:51:37,892
Speaker 3: like with an orchestra behind it, then you were going

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01:51:38,013 --> 01:51:42,692
Speaker 3: to love this particular event Symphony, So you're gonna hear

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01:51:43,013 --> 01:51:47,933
Speaker 3: Derude Basement Jack join the Auckland Philamana and the conductor

2270
01:51:47,973 --> 01:51:50,692
Speaker 3: for the show is Sydney based conductor Sarah Grace william

2271
01:51:50,732 --> 01:51:53,772
Speaker 3: She's behind the batton for the festival and we have

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01:51:53,893 --> 01:51:56,893
Speaker 3: tracked her down Sarah, Good afternoon, Good afternoon.

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01:51:57,253 --> 01:52:00,852
Speaker 2: So what's the difference between straight classical conducting and this

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01:52:01,013 --> 01:52:01,892
Speaker 2: kind of conducting?

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01:52:03,412 --> 01:52:06,772
Speaker 9: Oh well, amazingly not as much as a lot of

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01:52:06,772 --> 01:52:11,492
Speaker 9: people think. Actually, my job actually is no different. Really,

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01:52:11,612 --> 01:52:14,333
Speaker 9: My job is to you know, whether I'm conducting Mozart

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01:52:14,412 --> 01:52:16,932
Speaker 9: or I'm conducting this, I have to prepare the score

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01:52:17,053 --> 01:52:20,572
Speaker 9: in the same way I have to interpret what's on

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01:52:20,612 --> 01:52:23,173
Speaker 9: the score, relay it to the orchestra, inspire them to

2281
01:52:23,173 --> 01:52:25,532
Speaker 9: get the best. Other than the music, connect with the audience,

2282
01:52:25,612 --> 01:52:29,492
Speaker 9: all those things, nothing changes. The only thing that is

2283
01:52:29,572 --> 01:52:32,812
Speaker 9: different between me conducting Mozart and symphony is I get

2284
01:52:32,853 --> 01:52:36,732
Speaker 9: to have a really good dance when I'm doing symphony, and.

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01:52:36,812 --> 01:52:40,492
Speaker 2: I imagine the audience reactions a bit different.

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01:52:41,572 --> 01:52:43,732
Speaker 9: That's it, I was saying to someone earlier. You know,

2287
01:52:43,772 --> 01:52:47,852
Speaker 9: it's you know, your typical crowd doesn't chance your name

2288
01:52:47,933 --> 01:52:50,532
Speaker 9: as you come on. You know, I encourage them to

2289
01:52:50,612 --> 01:52:52,852
Speaker 9: normally they just you know, they haven't quite got there.

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01:52:52,853 --> 01:52:54,173
Speaker 5: No, it's quite quite the.

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01:52:54,173 --> 01:52:58,532
Speaker 9: Vibe the especially symphony. You know, I quite often refer

2292
01:52:58,612 --> 01:53:02,572
Speaker 9: to our crowd as being mental, and I mean that

2293
01:53:02,692 --> 01:53:05,133
Speaker 9: in a I mean that in a really great way

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01:53:05,452 --> 01:53:09,333
Speaker 9: because there is no other crowd that I know that

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01:53:09,492 --> 01:53:12,652
Speaker 9: requires zero warming up. You know, so often we walk

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01:53:12,692 --> 01:53:15,492
Speaker 9: on stage and you know, part of the job that

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01:53:15,532 --> 01:53:17,892
Speaker 9: we have in front of us is you know, warming

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01:53:17,933 --> 01:53:20,253
Speaker 9: the crowd up, getting them to engage, and you know,

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01:53:20,333 --> 01:53:23,132
Speaker 9: by the end we've gotten somewhere together. But this crowd

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01:53:23,133 --> 01:53:27,253
Speaker 9: they're ready to go. They're so pumped, and the vibe is,

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01:53:27,333 --> 01:53:29,772
Speaker 9: you know, it's off the chart. Unlike anything else.

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Speaker 3: This might be a funny question, but I imagine it's

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01:53:31,732 --> 01:53:33,932
Speaker 3: quite the workout when you're up there having a boogie

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01:53:33,973 --> 01:53:36,852
Speaker 3: but also conducting as well, that people wouldn't think about,

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01:53:37,532 --> 01:53:38,612
Speaker 3: you know, with the job that you do.

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01:53:39,973 --> 01:53:44,612
Speaker 9: Absolutely. I wore a you know, a smart watch one

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01:53:44,652 --> 01:53:49,413
Speaker 9: show to sit check it twenty three thousand steps. Yeah,

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01:53:49,492 --> 01:53:53,052
Speaker 9: so yeah, it is. It's a physical workout, that's for sure.

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01:53:54,412 --> 01:53:57,013
Speaker 2: So it takes a song like Sandstorm, for example, and

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01:53:57,053 --> 01:54:02,052
Speaker 2: it's a pretty pretty simple song. Do the mission musicians

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01:54:02,093 --> 01:54:03,852
Speaker 2: need shoot sheet music to play there?

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01:54:05,692 --> 01:54:10,333
Speaker 9: They do, because yeah, there is that motive. But what

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01:54:10,372 --> 01:54:16,093
Speaker 9: we are really blessed with in this show is incredible charts.

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01:54:16,173 --> 01:54:18,732
Speaker 9: And by that I mean the music that the musicians

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01:54:18,732 --> 01:54:22,413
Speaker 9: are actually playing the orchestra. They are created by an orchestrator,

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01:54:23,893 --> 01:54:27,532
Speaker 9: a key we by name of Ryan Ewens, who is

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01:54:29,053 --> 01:54:32,333
Speaker 9: an incredible talent, and in what he does, he actually

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01:54:32,812 --> 01:54:36,693
Speaker 9: just goes and takes this music and reimagines it into

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01:54:36,693 --> 01:54:39,133
Speaker 9: the orchestral tapestry, you know, the full scope of and

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01:54:39,293 --> 01:54:41,733
Speaker 9: possibilities of what an orchestra can do in the color

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01:54:41,733 --> 01:54:44,852
Speaker 9: of the dynamicism and all that kind of stuff. And

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01:54:44,933 --> 01:54:52,173
Speaker 9: so he writes the most incredibly diverse and interesting and

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01:54:52,533 --> 01:54:54,693
Speaker 9: you know, exciting parts for these musicians to play there.

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01:54:55,453 --> 01:54:57,493
Speaker 9: They've got a hell of a lot of notes to

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01:54:57,493 --> 01:54:59,253
Speaker 9: get through on Saturday night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.

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01:55:00,772 --> 01:55:03,213
Speaker 2: Well, looking forward to it. Actually, I've got my tickets

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01:55:03,253 --> 01:55:06,132
Speaker 2: and I'll be along and you're very excited.

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01:55:07,133 --> 01:55:11,293
Speaker 3: Awesome, what a fantastic event to look forward to. That

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Speaker 3: is us for this week. Thank you to everyone who

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01:55:13,613 --> 01:55:15,533
Speaker 3: gave us a buzz and had a chat. Love to

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01:55:15,573 --> 01:55:18,173
Speaker 3: this week and obviously looking ahead to the weekend. The

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01:55:18,213 --> 01:55:21,693
Speaker 3: Warriors Sunday night quarter past State against the West Tigers

2334
01:55:21,772 --> 01:55:24,453
Speaker 3: late for a footy game, but come on, can they

2335
01:55:24,453 --> 01:55:25,533
Speaker 3: get another one?

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01:55:26,333 --> 01:55:28,493
Speaker 2: And don't forget the beach hop this weekend in fun

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01:55:28,573 --> 01:55:32,852
Speaker 2: at I love a beach hop anyway, have a great weekend, everyone,

2338
01:55:32,893 --> 01:55:34,892
Speaker 2: rip it up, look after yourselves, and hey, we'll not

2339
01:55:34,933 --> 01:55:36,653
Speaker 2: give you a mama call and tell her you love her.

2340
01:55:36,733 --> 01:55:39,493
Speaker 2: So see your Monday for another edition of Matt and

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01:55:39,533 --> 01:55:42,812
Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoons. Until then, whatever you do wherever you are,

2342
01:55:43,693 --> 01:55:45,053
Speaker 2: give them a taste of keeping.

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Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b listen live on

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Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever

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