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Speaker 2: EDB curd to Good afternoon, Welcome into the Sunday edition

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Speaker 2: of Weekend Sport on News Talks. It'db March twenty third.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pine Show producer Anny McDonald. We're talking sport

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Speaker 2: with you until three o'clock this afternoon. Happy birthday, Kyrie Irving,

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Mo Farre, Good day for Middle Distant Front

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Speaker 2: is actually the world's first ever four minute miler. Sir

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Speaker 2: Roger Banister also born on this date in nineteen twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: One of the most iconic figures in boxing, George Foreman,

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Speaker 2: many moments to remember, just as I said, and iconic

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Speaker 2: a second time. Leading boxing promoter Eddie hearn is with

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Speaker 2: us after one o'clock this afternoon to put into context

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Speaker 2: George Foreman's influence on the sport and the legacy that

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Speaker 2: George Foreman against Arli and Fraser and others in the seventies.

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Speaker 2: First up today, though, keem We driver Liam Lawson will

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Speaker 2: start tonight's at Chinese Grand Prix from the back of

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Speaker 2: He can take solace though from finishing fourteenth in the

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Speaker 2: Motorsport Royalty Mark Webber is with us shortly to effect

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Speaker 2: on his Formula one and Endurance Racing carevital So how

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Speaker 2: to see as Seselee and Lawson's ability to deal with

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Speaker 2: The Crusaders are back. The Red and Black are back.

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Speaker 2: To the delight of a couple in this studio, I

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Speaker 2: can tell you an absolute thumping of the defending not

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Speaker 2: Eden Park last night forty two nineteen. Who saw that coming?

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Speaker 2: The Crusader's rookie hooker Yoanni Moanu had a standout game.

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Speaker 2: He'll join us to chat about the win. We're inside

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Speaker 2: the All Whites camp ahead of their final push to

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Speaker 2: night at eden Park. Vice captain Libby Cacaci along for

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. T twenty International double header in Mount Mongan,

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Speaker 2: Nui today White Ferns Australia followed by Black capsby Pakistan.

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Speaker 2: A Porsche parade has rolled through Napier this weekend, led

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Speaker 3: Now it's gonna be victory. So Mark Webber his first

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Speaker 2: Mark Webber did it offen the Porsche Club of New

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been a beautiful morning here mate. The coffee

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Speaker 8: Of course, I had a long career there which you know,

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Speaker 2: So is that a demonstration marker of just how important experiences?

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Speaker 8: Of course, you're always the most experience you have is

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Speaker 8: Maybe I wasn't ready for it earlier in my career

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Speaker 2: be again for the main race. But as you say,

431
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Speaker 2: when he was near the back of the grid for

432
00:21:41,627 --> 00:21:43,427
Speaker 2: the sprint race as well, wasn't he in you? And

433
00:21:43,467 --> 00:21:45,507
Speaker 2: you saw some promise there from some of the overtaking

434
00:21:45,507 --> 00:21:48,027
Speaker 2: you did? I think he made up five places overall.

435
00:21:48,587 --> 00:21:51,627
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, five spots from the back, which which is

436
00:21:51,667 --> 00:21:53,947
Speaker 10: also really hard to do in a sprint race. It's

437
00:21:54,267 --> 00:21:56,387
Speaker 10: it's quite sure, it's quite fast, everyone's out there to

438
00:21:56,427 --> 00:21:57,987
Speaker 10: try and get into those points at the top of

439
00:21:57,987 --> 00:21:59,267
Speaker 10: the top of the position.

440
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Speaker 12: So yeah, he did.

441
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Speaker 10: I think he did bloody well and it showed what

442
00:22:03,707 --> 00:22:06,147
Speaker 10: he can do in a race situation, just hopefully in

443
00:22:06,187 --> 00:22:08,827
Speaker 10: the in the next in the next race going forward,

444
00:22:09,787 --> 00:22:11,587
Speaker 10: so you can start maybe middle of a bunch and

445
00:22:11,587 --> 00:22:13,347
Speaker 10: fight for some of those top positions.

446
00:22:13,667 --> 00:22:16,467
Speaker 2: What is the event itself? Like cam, what's the Chinese

447
00:22:16,467 --> 00:22:16,987
Speaker 2: Grand Prix?

448
00:22:17,107 --> 00:22:19,307
Speaker 4: Like it's outstanding one.

449
00:22:19,387 --> 00:22:21,987
Speaker 10: I just can't get over the organization off this many people,

450
00:22:22,147 --> 00:22:24,747
Speaker 10: Like I heard there was two hundred thousand people at

451
00:22:24,747 --> 00:22:29,267
Speaker 10: this at this place, and you wouldn't even tell, like

452
00:22:29,587 --> 00:22:32,347
Speaker 10: there's a lot of people. It's busy, but there's just

453
00:22:32,667 --> 00:22:36,107
Speaker 10: brilliant organization. There's a lot of there's a car show

454
00:22:36,147 --> 00:22:42,587
Speaker 10: going outside the outside the event well, lots of facilities

455
00:22:42,627 --> 00:22:43,187
Speaker 10: for food.

456
00:22:43,667 --> 00:22:46,707
Speaker 2: It's just amazing in terms of vantage points and things

457
00:22:46,787 --> 00:22:48,827
Speaker 2: like that. What do your tickets get you access to?

458
00:22:48,907 --> 00:22:50,867
Speaker 2: Do you have to stay in the same place? Can

459
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Speaker 2: you move around?

460
00:22:51,907 --> 00:22:54,827
Speaker 10: No, So it's pretty it's pretty liberal where you can go.

461
00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:59,907
Speaker 10: Where we're stuck to our grandstand and what's called blockage,

462
00:23:00,027 --> 00:23:03,987
Speaker 10: but you've got access to pretty much everything outside the

463
00:23:03,987 --> 00:23:06,707
Speaker 10: grand stand. Can't quite get down to the pits, everything

464
00:23:06,827 --> 00:23:09,427
Speaker 10: that's all locked off and whether the paddocts have their

465
00:23:09,467 --> 00:23:13,227
Speaker 10: special VIP passes, but everything else is as long as

466
00:23:13,227 --> 00:23:15,347
Speaker 10: you've got a ticket in, you've got access to a

467
00:23:15,347 --> 00:23:19,027
Speaker 10: lot all the stuff that's free around the outside. So yes,

468
00:23:19,827 --> 00:23:21,267
Speaker 10: it's good and.

469
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Speaker 2: No problem with you know, obviously I don't know whether

470
00:23:24,667 --> 00:23:27,787
Speaker 2: you speak fluent Chinese or not, but no problem making

471
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Speaker 2: yourself understood.

472
00:23:29,267 --> 00:23:30,307
Speaker 12: No, not at all.

473
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Speaker 10: They've got a good series of apps as well, which

474
00:23:32,827 --> 00:23:35,667
Speaker 10: if you did any translation, does a translation from English

475
00:23:35,987 --> 00:23:41,987
Speaker 10: through Chinese through speech also translates any photo that you

476
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Speaker 10: take as well. But where we are it's everything is

477
00:23:45,067 --> 00:23:50,907
Speaker 10: double signpost in English and Chinese. Every instruction English and Chinese.

478
00:23:51,107 --> 00:23:53,427
Speaker 10: It's been super easy. It was one of my concerns

479
00:23:53,467 --> 00:23:55,067
Speaker 10: coming over. I was like, how hard is this going

480
00:23:55,107 --> 00:23:56,947
Speaker 10: to be? Have we just shut ourselves in the foot,

481
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Speaker 10: But no, it's super easy and super super good.

482
00:24:00,747 --> 00:24:02,867
Speaker 2: That's great. And what sort of field do you get

483
00:24:02,907 --> 00:24:05,147
Speaker 2: about the others? You know, the majority of people who

484
00:24:05,187 --> 00:24:07,827
Speaker 2: are there. Obviously there are a lot of Chinese nationals,

485
00:24:07,827 --> 00:24:10,147
Speaker 2: but does it feel as though there aren't a lot

486
00:24:10,187 --> 00:24:11,907
Speaker 2: of tourists like yourself as well?

487
00:24:12,187 --> 00:24:15,787
Speaker 10: Yeah, there definitely are said around us in our little

488
00:24:15,827 --> 00:24:18,387
Speaker 10: spot where they right in front of us has made

489
00:24:18,427 --> 00:24:21,187
Speaker 10: the Chinese nationals, but we had a Polish guy on

490
00:24:21,187 --> 00:24:23,867
Speaker 10: on our lift side. We've got British on the right

491
00:24:23,867 --> 00:24:24,467
Speaker 10: hand side.

492
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Speaker 4: There's a lot of tourists.

493
00:24:26,067 --> 00:24:29,747
Speaker 10: Heah, but definitely the majority of are Chinese nationals. But

494
00:24:29,787 --> 00:24:34,667
Speaker 10: there are so many Ferraris. It's definitely a fan favorite here.

495
00:24:34,747 --> 00:24:37,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know this. Hey Kem, thanks for calling in.

496
00:24:37,307 --> 00:24:38,827
Speaker 2: I think that's the first time anyone's ever called the

497
00:24:38,827 --> 00:24:41,747
Speaker 2: show from China. I appreciate your listening and giving us

498
00:24:41,787 --> 00:24:45,307
Speaker 2: the benefit of your real life experience and so you

499
00:24:45,347 --> 00:24:47,907
Speaker 2: can cheer Liam to a much better performance. But later

500
00:24:47,947 --> 00:24:50,067
Speaker 2: on today thanks for calling mate. Oh one hundred and

501
00:24:50,067 --> 00:24:52,187
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty George, are you in China?

502
00:24:53,307 --> 00:24:55,987
Speaker 7: No? No, no, I've just had a cup of tea

503
00:24:56,027 --> 00:24:57,187
Speaker 7: though that was in China.

504
00:24:58,227 --> 00:25:03,747
Speaker 2: That's not bad George, that's not bad from you. What

505
00:25:03,787 --> 00:25:05,227
Speaker 2: are you thinking about the What are you thinking about

506
00:25:05,227 --> 00:25:08,107
Speaker 2: the inview? What do you think of that one?

507
00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:11,387
Speaker 7: Well, I'm actually taking a bit of pity on Lawson

508
00:25:12,307 --> 00:25:13,587
Speaker 7: his first race in Melbourne.

509
00:25:13,627 --> 00:25:14,107
Speaker 5: What happened?

510
00:25:14,107 --> 00:25:16,787
Speaker 7: The car failed, That was the end of that. Couldn't

511
00:25:16,867 --> 00:25:18,867
Speaker 7: drive it anymore? So how could he win? And he can't?

512
00:25:18,907 --> 00:25:21,027
Speaker 7: So why I blame him? It's not his fault that

513
00:25:21,067 --> 00:25:24,187
Speaker 7: the car failed and he couldn't drive it. The second

514
00:25:24,267 --> 00:25:26,107
Speaker 7: race was that bucketed down with the rain? Was he

515
00:25:26,147 --> 00:25:28,747
Speaker 7: allowed to change his tires to wet track tires? No?

516
00:25:29,027 --> 00:25:31,627
Speaker 7: They made him run around on slips and aquaplane. That's

517
00:25:31,667 --> 00:25:34,747
Speaker 7: just nuts. That's not his fault. That's the manager's fault

518
00:25:34,787 --> 00:25:37,107
Speaker 7: for not allowing him to drive at his best on

519
00:25:37,227 --> 00:25:39,787
Speaker 7: tires that was suitable for the track. So I think

520
00:25:39,987 --> 00:25:42,067
Speaker 7: people that go on I always done no good on the

521
00:25:42,067 --> 00:25:44,507
Speaker 7: first couple of races, they've got to pull their heads in.

522
00:25:44,987 --> 00:25:47,387
Speaker 7: It's like running on a horse that's got no legs left,

523
00:25:47,947 --> 00:25:50,067
Speaker 7: you know, and the races and you complain about the jockey.

524
00:25:50,187 --> 00:25:52,947
Speaker 7: It just doesn't work. So I think this race coming

525
00:25:53,027 --> 00:25:55,307
Speaker 7: up now, he's going to actually if he's got his

526
00:25:55,507 --> 00:25:58,387
Speaker 7: car running properly and it doesn't do anything stupid and

527
00:25:58,467 --> 00:26:01,427
Speaker 7: he's able to actually grow into his car and become

528
00:26:01,507 --> 00:26:03,667
Speaker 7: part of it. And I'm gonna a ligne this to

529
00:26:03,787 --> 00:26:06,347
Speaker 7: one of my friends who was a cyclist and to

530
00:26:06,547 --> 00:26:09,307
Speaker 7: do bike races on the road, and he said, you

531
00:26:09,347 --> 00:26:11,547
Speaker 7: get to a point where you become part of the bike,

532
00:26:12,267 --> 00:26:14,827
Speaker 7: and you become part of the road, and you are

533
00:26:14,827 --> 00:26:17,387
Speaker 7: on that angle on the corners and there's no return

534
00:26:17,467 --> 00:26:20,427
Speaker 7: because of the angle that you're on. You can't straighten up.

535
00:26:20,467 --> 00:26:23,307
Speaker 7: If something happens, you're just going to go off. So

536
00:26:23,347 --> 00:26:26,587
Speaker 7: you live in the no return zone. And I think

537
00:26:26,867 --> 00:26:30,107
Speaker 7: Lawson is getting his car in that sort of area.

538
00:26:30,347 --> 00:26:32,187
Speaker 7: In the last lot of races he was with with

539
00:26:32,267 --> 00:26:36,147
Speaker 7: the other guys lived in that no return zone and

540
00:26:36,187 --> 00:26:37,987
Speaker 7: he's able to get through to the end and so

541
00:26:38,147 --> 00:26:41,107
Speaker 7: pass people and do well. He's still learning his car,

542
00:26:41,227 --> 00:26:44,347
Speaker 7: growing into it. But the flaming things not have been

543
00:26:44,867 --> 00:26:48,307
Speaker 7: performing for him. It's a team effort between the car

544
00:26:48,547 --> 00:26:51,987
Speaker 7: and the driver at the end of the day, and

545
00:26:52,027 --> 00:26:54,787
Speaker 7: that's all I can say is give them time, get

546
00:26:54,827 --> 00:26:58,587
Speaker 7: the car to work, get the computer program, the mapping

547
00:26:58,667 --> 00:27:01,347
Speaker 7: in the ECU and all that so that it actually

548
00:27:01,387 --> 00:27:05,107
Speaker 7: suits his drive and how he likes to drive, so

549
00:27:05,227 --> 00:27:07,187
Speaker 7: that he's got a car that can get out of

550
00:27:07,227 --> 00:27:09,267
Speaker 7: its optimum. That's where I'm getting to.

551
00:27:09,547 --> 00:27:11,667
Speaker 2: No, it's a good point you make, George. And as

552
00:27:11,707 --> 00:27:13,787
Speaker 2: you know, the car is set up for Max for Staffan.

553
00:27:14,107 --> 00:27:17,907
Speaker 2: That's obvious. He's the world champion, full time defending world champion,

554
00:27:17,987 --> 00:27:20,427
Speaker 2: clearly number one in that team. And Liam knew going

555
00:27:20,467 --> 00:27:23,947
Speaker 2: in that he had to adjust to a car set

556
00:27:23,987 --> 00:27:26,667
Speaker 2: up that was set up specifically for Max for Stapphen.

557
00:27:26,747 --> 00:27:28,587
Speaker 2: But as you say, they've also got to set him

558
00:27:28,627 --> 00:27:31,067
Speaker 2: up to succeed, give him every opportunity, and I'm sure

559
00:27:31,107 --> 00:27:33,747
Speaker 2: they are. I'm sure they are giving him every bit

560
00:27:33,787 --> 00:27:36,347
Speaker 2: of resource because, at the risk of repeating myself, they

561
00:27:36,387 --> 00:27:39,787
Speaker 2: want to win the Drivers' Championship as well. To do that,

562
00:27:40,147 --> 00:27:42,267
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson needs to be picking up points. He picks

563
00:27:42,347 --> 00:27:45,307
Speaker 2: up points by finishing in the top ten. Let's see

564
00:27:45,307 --> 00:27:46,827
Speaker 2: how he goes a little bit later on today, Good

565
00:27:46,827 --> 00:27:48,547
Speaker 2: to chat to you, George. Twenty three away from one.

566
00:27:48,707 --> 00:27:51,467
Speaker 2: We're inside the Crusaders camp next as they're celebrating their

567
00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:55,147
Speaker 2: joint biggest ever away win over the Blues and their

568
00:27:55,187 --> 00:28:00,667
Speaker 2: first away win in the Rob Penny coaching era. Did

569
00:28:00,667 --> 00:28:02,227
Speaker 2: I get that right? I read that last night and

570
00:28:02,227 --> 00:28:04,067
Speaker 2: I thought, is that right? And then I thought back

571
00:28:04,107 --> 00:28:07,187
Speaker 2: the last season, thought yeah, it probably. In fact, the

572
00:28:07,267 --> 00:28:09,107
Speaker 2: last time they went away from home was ad Eden

573
00:28:09,187 --> 00:28:13,027
Speaker 2: Park in the twenty twenty three final. From memory anyway,

574
00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:17,187
Speaker 2: that's all by the Bye Yoanni Moana neuterific game last

575
00:28:17,267 --> 00:28:20,387
Speaker 2: night from the rookie hooker. Let's see how he reflects

576
00:28:20,387 --> 00:28:21,227
Speaker 2: on it when we come back.

577
00:28:21,547 --> 00:28:25,747
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579
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580
00:28:31,147 --> 00:28:33,627
Speaker 2: Then B twenty to one. Look at everybody else. The

581
00:28:33,667 --> 00:28:34,507
Speaker 2: Crusaders are back.

582
00:28:34,907 --> 00:28:38,587
Speaker 13: Crusaders too short now, wanting to sign off this match

583
00:28:38,587 --> 00:28:40,987
Speaker 13: with a try again on the right hand side they go,

584
00:28:41,507 --> 00:28:45,187
Speaker 13: Bouer has a crack. They're almost over the line away

585
00:28:45,187 --> 00:28:48,507
Speaker 13: on the right hand side. One more to go. The Crusaders.

586
00:28:48,507 --> 00:28:49,667
Speaker 13: Aren't they over that spot?

587
00:28:49,907 --> 00:28:51,947
Speaker 14: Well, Jordan Shortan gets one.

588
00:28:53,467 --> 00:28:58,427
Speaker 13: And the Crusaders forty two nineteen time up at Eden Park.

589
00:28:58,387 --> 00:29:01,147
Speaker 2: Yea bonus point victory. The Crusader's up unto second on

590
00:29:01,187 --> 00:29:03,867
Speaker 2: the table, their first ever away win in the Rob

591
00:29:04,027 --> 00:29:07,187
Speaker 2: Penny era and their joint biggest way went against the

592
00:29:07,187 --> 00:29:10,467
Speaker 2: Blues in Super Rugby history. Let's bring in one of

593
00:29:10,467 --> 00:29:14,067
Speaker 2: the standouts last night, Crusaders hooker you any more? Anne,

594
00:29:14,067 --> 00:29:17,347
Speaker 2: who is with us? Congratulations on a terrific performance from

595
00:29:17,347 --> 00:29:19,587
Speaker 2: you on the team. You Wanni the smiles a mile

596
00:29:19,747 --> 00:29:22,427
Speaker 2: wide at the end. How special was that when last

597
00:29:22,467 --> 00:29:22,867
Speaker 2: night for you?

598
00:29:24,187 --> 00:29:24,427
Speaker 9: Cheers?

599
00:29:24,507 --> 00:29:24,747
Speaker 15: Mate?

600
00:29:25,067 --> 00:29:26,787
Speaker 16: No, I was so good, so good to get to

601
00:29:26,867 --> 00:29:31,307
Speaker 16: win up pan Auckland and Eden Parkers aout of special

602
00:29:31,307 --> 00:29:33,227
Speaker 16: place to get it done. It was, Yeah, I was

603
00:29:33,267 --> 00:29:34,307
Speaker 16: were a good one from the voice.

604
00:29:34,867 --> 00:29:37,267
Speaker 2: Did it feel like this performance was coming as you

605
00:29:37,267 --> 00:29:38,787
Speaker 2: were building up towards this game?

606
00:29:39,227 --> 00:29:39,347
Speaker 14: Uh?

607
00:29:39,747 --> 00:29:42,387
Speaker 16: Well, we had a good prep for the boys during

608
00:29:42,387 --> 00:29:45,787
Speaker 16: the week, made sure you know we had this this game,

609
00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:48,627
Speaker 16: you know, opening them out calendar and you meture this

610
00:29:48,667 --> 00:29:52,307
Speaker 16: week was was unwell and you know most and yeah,

611
00:29:52,347 --> 00:29:55,147
Speaker 16: came to the game and the boys just enjoyed themselves,

612
00:29:55,147 --> 00:29:58,987
Speaker 16: inc was just smiling and having fun, which is pretty good.

613
00:29:59,067 --> 00:30:01,867
Speaker 2: Absolutely, When did you find out that you'd be starting

614
00:30:01,867 --> 00:30:04,787
Speaker 2: this one? Because I think Cody Taylor was was supposed

615
00:30:04,827 --> 00:30:06,947
Speaker 2: to start injury during the week. When did you find

616
00:30:06,947 --> 00:30:08,427
Speaker 2: out you'd be in the two jersey.

617
00:30:08,867 --> 00:30:11,867
Speaker 16: Just before you're about to fly down to our fly

618
00:30:11,987 --> 00:30:15,747
Speaker 16: up to Auckland. I think he has that is ridiculous

619
00:30:15,867 --> 00:30:20,347
Speaker 16: and didn't go to wellful codes. But yeah, coaches just

620
00:30:20,347 --> 00:30:21,547
Speaker 16: came up to me and told me that I was

621
00:30:21,587 --> 00:30:24,827
Speaker 16: studying and I keep there from the same. Keep it simple,

622
00:30:24,867 --> 00:30:26,827
Speaker 16: you know, don't want to change too much.

623
00:30:27,227 --> 00:30:29,627
Speaker 2: Because I don't think you started at all last season

624
00:30:29,787 --> 00:30:31,587
Speaker 2: or in twenty twenty three, but you got a couple

625
00:30:31,587 --> 00:30:34,067
Speaker 2: of starts at the beginning of this season. Again, of

626
00:30:34,067 --> 00:30:37,507
Speaker 2: course last night had does the role change when you've

627
00:30:37,507 --> 00:30:39,587
Speaker 2: got the number two one rather than the sixteen?

628
00:30:40,507 --> 00:30:43,907
Speaker 16: For me, I try not over complicated and trying to

629
00:30:44,187 --> 00:30:47,467
Speaker 16: change too much. Just try and keep it real simple.

630
00:30:47,587 --> 00:30:47,787
Speaker 7: You know.

631
00:30:47,827 --> 00:30:51,587
Speaker 16: I back my grip that I've and throughout the week,

632
00:30:51,627 --> 00:30:55,667
Speaker 16: and I bet it the boys got my my records.

633
00:30:55,307 --> 00:30:58,587
Speaker 2: Of how big a help has Cody Taylor been for you?

634
00:30:59,827 --> 00:31:03,587
Speaker 16: Oh man, he's been so good, like just a knowledge

635
00:31:03,627 --> 00:31:06,067
Speaker 16: he has in the game and in how willing years

636
00:31:06,067 --> 00:31:08,107
Speaker 16: you know, to help us younger boys, you know, to

637
00:31:08,147 --> 00:31:11,307
Speaker 16: help us come through and you know give us, you know,

638
00:31:11,347 --> 00:31:14,747
Speaker 16: as much knowledge. It's like so I realized, honestly, so

639
00:31:14,787 --> 00:31:17,987
Speaker 16: good to have him, especially Belly as well one of

640
00:31:18,027 --> 00:31:21,187
Speaker 16: the other hookers as well, like too all black hookers

641
00:31:21,467 --> 00:31:22,787
Speaker 16: to learn off them. It's so good.

642
00:31:23,267 --> 00:31:24,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess at the start of the season you

643
00:31:24,787 --> 00:31:26,947
Speaker 2: might have wondered where your opportunities were going to come from.

644
00:31:26,947 --> 00:31:30,507
Speaker 2: But obviously with with George Bell's injury, that's a real

645
00:31:30,547 --> 00:31:33,067
Speaker 2: shame for him. But even with Cody available, are you

646
00:31:33,107 --> 00:31:35,507
Speaker 2: still pushing him every day to try and be the

647
00:31:35,547 --> 00:31:36,227
Speaker 2: starting hooker?

648
00:31:39,747 --> 00:31:42,827
Speaker 16: Playing the suit the two jerseymen, I've actually really enjoyed it.

649
00:31:42,867 --> 00:31:44,907
Speaker 16: And I said when I first came down that you know,

650
00:31:44,907 --> 00:31:48,147
Speaker 16: I'm not here to just you know, be here and

651
00:31:49,067 --> 00:31:51,147
Speaker 16: sort of wait around. I'm here to come here and

652
00:31:51,187 --> 00:31:54,907
Speaker 16: challenge the boys and and trying to play as well

653
00:31:54,907 --> 00:31:57,867
Speaker 16: in training as well because I can. I don't know,

654
00:31:57,947 --> 00:31:59,747
Speaker 16: if I get better and the boys are getting better

655
00:31:59,747 --> 00:32:01,347
Speaker 16: as well, and that's better for the team.

656
00:32:01,547 --> 00:32:04,427
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. Great attitude, man, you know, they say that

657
00:32:04,747 --> 00:32:07,827
Speaker 2: hookers need to be efficient and there core roles scrummaging

658
00:32:08,147 --> 00:32:10,227
Speaker 2: thrown into the line out. How hard do you work

659
00:32:10,227 --> 00:32:12,147
Speaker 2: on those things every day?

660
00:32:12,227 --> 00:32:16,027
Speaker 16: Then I'm lucky you got the forwards coach Dan Pearns,

661
00:32:17,307 --> 00:32:19,427
Speaker 16: who used to be hook as well. So it's been

662
00:32:19,467 --> 00:32:23,787
Speaker 16: a real big help for me as well off the field. Yes,

663
00:32:24,307 --> 00:32:27,907
Speaker 16: big up callers as well, calling the right options.

664
00:32:27,907 --> 00:32:35,707
Speaker 2: You know, you must love that when you get the

665
00:32:35,707 --> 00:32:39,227
Speaker 2: easy callers to line out. Fantastic. But I got to say,

666
00:32:39,467 --> 00:32:42,027
Speaker 2: not many hookers have a kicking game, but you do.

667
00:32:42,187 --> 00:32:43,867
Speaker 2: I saw a couple of last night. How did you

668
00:32:43,907 --> 00:32:44,427
Speaker 2: develop that?

669
00:32:45,267 --> 00:32:45,307
Speaker 17: No?

670
00:32:45,627 --> 00:32:48,107
Speaker 16: Man, I just know it was like an off turnover

671
00:32:48,187 --> 00:32:49,867
Speaker 16: board and I was like, there's no one at the back,

672
00:32:49,907 --> 00:32:51,867
Speaker 16: so I just give it a good boot.

673
00:32:52,467 --> 00:32:54,147
Speaker 12: Can go brilliant.

674
00:32:54,307 --> 00:32:57,867
Speaker 2: Growing up, was there was there a hooker who you watched,

675
00:32:58,307 --> 00:33:00,547
Speaker 2: you know, or even a player you watched growing up

676
00:33:00,547 --> 00:33:03,787
Speaker 2: who you modeled your game on or have tried to emulate.

677
00:33:04,027 --> 00:33:09,267
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I'm originally from Brookland, so it's just I

678
00:33:09,347 --> 00:33:14,107
Speaker 16: used to love watching Kevin. Yeah yeah, watching him growing

679
00:33:14,147 --> 00:33:18,227
Speaker 16: up was because one of my idols growing up, and

680
00:33:18,467 --> 00:33:21,227
Speaker 16: you used to love the way he plays how around

681
00:33:21,267 --> 00:33:23,747
Speaker 16: the field, how your agone was and how fast he was,

682
00:33:23,827 --> 00:33:25,987
Speaker 16: and then sort of like when I grew up and

683
00:33:26,147 --> 00:33:29,947
Speaker 16: now like being seen codes workers were like Katie Taylor,

684
00:33:31,187 --> 00:33:34,387
Speaker 16: it's yeah, motivation, I.

685
00:33:33,827 --> 00:33:34,747
Speaker 5: I bet, I bet.

686
00:33:35,027 --> 00:33:37,507
Speaker 2: And a couple of penalty turnovers too. You know, those

687
00:33:37,547 --> 00:33:40,347
Speaker 2: are obviously big moments in the game. Plenty of plenty

688
00:33:40,427 --> 00:33:43,067
Speaker 2: of charhooing going on as well. You know, the Crusaders

689
00:33:43,067 --> 00:33:44,587
Speaker 2: are going well when you're here there he must be.

690
00:33:44,867 --> 00:33:47,227
Speaker 2: It must be nice having a hype man like sev Reese.

691
00:33:47,627 --> 00:33:50,747
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, Actually, you know, get off the energy and

692
00:33:50,747 --> 00:33:52,747
Speaker 16: it's good. You know, boys built off the energy and

693
00:33:53,587 --> 00:33:56,587
Speaker 16: you know, straight after that, you know we've got like

694
00:33:56,587 --> 00:33:59,227
Speaker 16: a war and went in for told it's pretty good,

695
00:33:59,267 --> 00:34:02,507
Speaker 16: you know, So feeling off the energy of the boys start.

696
00:34:02,347 --> 00:34:07,467
Speaker 2: Hearing and I saw you cramping up there and I

697
00:34:07,587 --> 00:34:09,587
Speaker 2: was over on that side, and I think the ref

698
00:34:09,587 --> 00:34:11,267
Speaker 2: came up to you and said, look, if it's cramp

699
00:34:11,307 --> 00:34:13,787
Speaker 2: you've got to carry on. So what was the conversation

700
00:34:13,947 --> 00:34:15,627
Speaker 2: you had to head with the ref just before you

701
00:34:15,627 --> 00:34:16,067
Speaker 2: went off?

702
00:34:16,787 --> 00:34:19,747
Speaker 16: Oh, I thought him, I am to stand up and

703
00:34:19,867 --> 00:34:23,667
Speaker 16: my cars are just lot tight, and was so gone.

704
00:34:23,987 --> 00:34:24,427
Speaker 9: I toought him.

705
00:34:24,427 --> 00:34:26,307
Speaker 16: I couldn't get up, and he was just like, it's

706
00:34:26,387 --> 00:34:28,227
Speaker 16: either you get up in you scrumb or you get

707
00:34:28,227 --> 00:34:31,707
Speaker 16: subbed off and you medical team just told me just

708
00:34:32,627 --> 00:34:33,707
Speaker 16: worth just going out now.

709
00:34:33,707 --> 00:34:37,347
Speaker 2: It's no point in staying a congratulations again you only

710
00:34:37,347 --> 00:34:39,987
Speaker 2: on a on a terrific performance from you and for

711
00:34:40,027 --> 00:34:41,787
Speaker 2: the team as well. I know you won't get carried away.

712
00:34:41,827 --> 00:34:44,867
Speaker 2: It's just one game in a long season, but it

713
00:34:44,867 --> 00:34:47,507
Speaker 2: was a terrific performance last night. Congratulations, thanks for taking

714
00:34:47,507 --> 00:34:50,267
Speaker 2: the time for a chat mate, Thank you sir, Thank you.

715
00:34:50,587 --> 00:34:54,627
Speaker 2: Moanaknw there out of the Crusaders camp a bit of

716
00:34:54,627 --> 00:34:56,667
Speaker 2: a character. I enjoyed watching him last night.

717
00:34:56,707 --> 00:34:56,907
Speaker 9: Man.

718
00:34:57,067 --> 00:35:01,467
Speaker 2: I from behind, he looks like more He's the same build,

719
00:35:01,547 --> 00:35:05,947
Speaker 2: you know, that stocky, powerful hooker, but he a couple

720
00:35:05,947 --> 00:35:08,067
Speaker 2: of times you the board and just booted it downfield.

721
00:35:08,067 --> 00:35:09,787
Speaker 2: I don't think it's any hooker. Do that for Ages

722
00:35:10,227 --> 00:35:12,307
Speaker 2: Crusaders fans, your chance to react if you'd like. I

723
00:35:12,307 --> 00:35:15,587
Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty Are you back? Is that

724
00:35:15,627 --> 00:35:18,307
Speaker 2: the performance last night that gives you real confidence that

725
00:35:18,387 --> 00:35:24,707
Speaker 2: actually last season was an outlier, an absolute anomaly in

726
00:35:24,747 --> 00:35:28,707
Speaker 2: this incredible dynasty that has been built over so many years.

727
00:35:30,147 --> 00:35:32,747
Speaker 2: Or are you still just waiting to see. Looking ahead

728
00:35:32,787 --> 00:35:34,587
Speaker 2: to the next couple of games, more on a pacificer

729
00:35:34,707 --> 00:35:37,387
Speaker 2: in the Fiji and Drewer for the Crusaders to come in.

730
00:35:37,467 --> 00:35:39,987
Speaker 2: Blues fans, are you a bit worried? I must say

731
00:35:40,027 --> 00:35:43,427
Speaker 2: I'm a bit worried about the super rugby defense, you know,

732
00:35:43,507 --> 00:35:47,627
Speaker 2: defending the championship of the Blues. They just looked a

733
00:35:47,787 --> 00:35:53,227
Speaker 2: shadow of their former selves last night, their title defense teetering.

734
00:35:54,707 --> 00:35:56,907
Speaker 2: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty nineteen nine to two

735
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Speaker 2: one text We'll take some rugby calls after this twelve to.

736
00:35:59,147 --> 00:36:03,307
Speaker 1: One, analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

737
00:36:03,387 --> 00:36:06,187
Speaker 1: world weekends for it with Jason Hie.

738
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:11,427
Speaker 2: Eight and a half to one talking about a super

739
00:36:11,467 --> 00:36:14,427
Speaker 2: rugby Greg, your Crusader's are back, mate, You're back.

740
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:15,907
Speaker 7: Yeah.

741
00:36:15,947 --> 00:36:17,307
Speaker 15: We're just going to take it a week at a

742
00:36:17,387 --> 00:36:20,227
Speaker 15: time and don't look above ourselves and mutually carried away.

743
00:36:20,267 --> 00:36:23,747
Speaker 15: That's that's the Crusader's babe, humble and just take it.

744
00:36:24,107 --> 00:36:26,147
Speaker 15: You know's a couple of tough games coming up. We've

745
00:36:26,147 --> 00:36:31,627
Speaker 15: got the Dura, you know, doubt we'll encounter the Chiefts again. Yeah,

746
00:36:31,627 --> 00:36:33,147
Speaker 15: it was a good game last night. It was a

747
00:36:33,147 --> 00:36:35,907
Speaker 15: Weaver that way, did not casting the spursions on their kicker,

748
00:36:35,987 --> 00:36:38,307
Speaker 15: but about some of the kicking was a wee bit

749
00:36:38,307 --> 00:36:41,187
Speaker 15: of a worry. But no, it was good. Good to

750
00:36:41,187 --> 00:36:43,387
Speaker 15: see them come back, and it was all around performance.

751
00:36:43,827 --> 00:36:45,787
Speaker 15: You know, last year wasn't a good year, and everyone

752
00:36:45,827 --> 00:36:49,587
Speaker 15: will admit to that, but it was a big step,

753
00:36:49,627 --> 00:36:53,307
Speaker 15: a lot of injuries and you know after Raises Dynasty

754
00:36:53,427 --> 00:36:57,467
Speaker 15: and the New Men toll taken out. But no, it

755
00:36:57,507 --> 00:36:58,627
Speaker 15: was it was a good performance.

756
00:36:58,667 --> 00:36:59,227
Speaker 16: It was good to.

757
00:36:59,187 --> 00:37:01,867
Speaker 15: See and but I wouldn't write the Blues off. I'm

758
00:37:01,907 --> 00:37:06,107
Speaker 15: sure they'll home things out. Old cot was pretty astute,

759
00:37:06,187 --> 00:37:09,827
Speaker 15: but it was pretty tough for the Crusaders, is you know?

760
00:37:09,867 --> 00:37:12,387
Speaker 15: I sat there and I'm sitting here holding my Crusaders

761
00:37:12,667 --> 00:37:16,267
Speaker 15: hat with the old logo and those red and black sunglasses.

762
00:37:16,427 --> 00:37:18,587
Speaker 15: I'm pretty pretty pleased, like a lot of us are.

763
00:37:18,907 --> 00:37:23,467
Speaker 2: Why not. I just thought you guys were tremendous. I

764
00:37:23,627 --> 00:37:25,867
Speaker 2: just I was lucky enough to be sidelined last last

765
00:37:25,947 --> 00:37:28,347
Speaker 2: night for our radio commentary. I just thought it was

766
00:37:29,147 --> 00:37:32,707
Speaker 2: a tremendous performance from the Crusaders. Yeah, you're right, you've

767
00:37:32,707 --> 00:37:35,667
Speaker 2: picked up on Camo's goalkicking. And I said during the

768
00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:37,107
Speaker 2: call like you don't want to leave too many points

769
00:37:37,107 --> 00:37:39,467
Speaker 2: out on Eden Park. But it didn't matter at the end.

770
00:37:39,507 --> 00:37:43,027
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's maybe one little thing that you think. Okay, Tom,

771
00:37:43,267 --> 00:37:45,387
Speaker 2: if he's going to keep taking the kicks, needs to

772
00:37:45,427 --> 00:37:47,467
Speaker 2: make him more, needs to make more of those kicks.

773
00:37:48,347 --> 00:37:53,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, don't put the guy down. I mean, he's

774
00:37:53,507 --> 00:37:55,787
Speaker 15: sort of doing a bit of an apprenticeship and maybe

775
00:37:55,827 --> 00:37:57,627
Speaker 15: he should have a talk to DC, get a few

776
00:37:57,667 --> 00:38:01,427
Speaker 15: pointers off him or contact merch. But you know, hopefully

777
00:38:01,507 --> 00:38:04,427
Speaker 15: he'll find his feet. And O'Connor's pretty good. But even

778
00:38:04,467 --> 00:38:06,267
Speaker 15: the heat missed run at the end, and that's going

779
00:38:06,267 --> 00:38:10,587
Speaker 15: to happen even the best of them. It's a tight game.

780
00:38:10,707 --> 00:38:12,387
Speaker 15: You know, we were lucky last night. We had a

781
00:38:12,387 --> 00:38:14,787
Speaker 15: bit of a margin, but that's a real tight game.

782
00:38:15,187 --> 00:38:17,067
Speaker 15: It can be one or two points. That happened with

783
00:38:17,067 --> 00:38:20,147
Speaker 15: the Highlanders the Canes the other week. That drop goal

784
00:38:20,267 --> 00:38:24,027
Speaker 15: was missed. But you know there's a slight worry. But

785
00:38:24,107 --> 00:38:27,547
Speaker 15: hopefully they'll adjust that and Rob Penue will be on

786
00:38:27,627 --> 00:38:30,027
Speaker 15: to it. But it was good to watch, you know,

787
00:38:30,587 --> 00:38:34,307
Speaker 15: they're always great games for the Blues, and yeah, I

788
00:38:34,387 --> 00:38:36,907
Speaker 15: was pretty surprised, you know, I sort of thought when

789
00:38:36,907 --> 00:38:38,987
Speaker 15: the Blues got the first points, but then it was

790
00:38:39,027 --> 00:38:41,667
Speaker 15: all downhill after that, wasn't it.

791
00:38:41,667 --> 00:38:42,067
Speaker 4: It was?

792
00:38:42,107 --> 00:38:44,867
Speaker 2: It was all red and black after that. Greg, you

793
00:38:44,987 --> 00:38:49,027
Speaker 2: keep on wearing that merchandise, mate, Look and look you're

794
00:38:49,107 --> 00:38:52,067
Speaker 2: right to be measured, you know, after what happened last year.

795
00:38:52,107 --> 00:38:55,147
Speaker 2: But and tak Cam, I have to say, I really

796
00:38:55,267 --> 00:38:57,627
Speaker 2: like the kid. You know. Goal kicking is one thing,

797
00:38:57,627 --> 00:38:59,587
Speaker 2: but I just I just think he's got a bit

798
00:38:59,627 --> 00:39:01,947
Speaker 2: about him, you know, and he'll only benefit from being

799
00:39:01,947 --> 00:39:04,747
Speaker 2: alongside James O'Connor and signed that environment. Yeah, I they

800
00:39:04,787 --> 00:39:06,187
Speaker 2: can get a couple of the old boys back in

801
00:39:06,187 --> 00:39:08,907
Speaker 2: there now, someone like maybe you know, a Dan Carter

802
00:39:08,987 --> 00:39:11,467
Speaker 2: come to mentor him. Then, man, he could be anything.

803
00:39:11,587 --> 00:39:14,147
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, Greg, good a, Chris, oh you

804
00:39:14,267 --> 00:39:14,867
Speaker 2: go Piney.

805
00:39:14,947 --> 00:39:18,507
Speaker 18: Hey, look, I'm actually staggering over the years how much

806
00:39:18,507 --> 00:39:22,427
Speaker 18: success the Crusaders have had on Eden Park in playoffs, finals,

807
00:39:22,427 --> 00:39:24,907
Speaker 18: et cetera, compared to the Blues and Christis where their

808
00:39:24,907 --> 00:39:31,107
Speaker 18: records absolutely woeful. You know, it's surprising, really, Beth as

809
00:39:31,107 --> 00:39:33,747
Speaker 18: the Cantabrian, I think that's very nice.

810
00:39:33,947 --> 00:39:37,027
Speaker 2: Well, not too many teams go, not too many visiting

811
00:39:37,107 --> 00:39:40,787
Speaker 2: teams go to Eden Park at international level, or super

812
00:39:40,907 --> 00:39:44,827
Speaker 2: level and consistently or even regularly win. But yeah, the Crusaders,

813
00:39:44,827 --> 00:39:47,507
Speaker 2: You're right. That was where they won the Super Rugby

814
00:39:47,547 --> 00:39:49,787
Speaker 2: title two years ago, wasn't it Back in the twenty

815
00:39:49,827 --> 00:39:50,347
Speaker 2: twenty three?

816
00:39:50,547 --> 00:39:53,667
Speaker 18: Yeah, and ninety and then their first one ninety eight.

817
00:39:54,067 --> 00:39:56,627
Speaker 2: Yes, that's of course. I remember that year. James Kerr

818
00:39:56,667 --> 00:39:59,387
Speaker 2: was it the try right at the end there? And yeah,

819
00:39:59,387 --> 00:40:01,547
Speaker 2: they you know, they don't seem to have any fear.

820
00:40:01,587 --> 00:40:03,667
Speaker 2: I think, you know, the Crusaders when they are at

821
00:40:03,707 --> 00:40:05,267
Speaker 2: the top of their game, and I'm not saying they're

822
00:40:05,267 --> 00:40:08,107
Speaker 2: there yet, but when they're back, they backed themselves to

823
00:40:08,107 --> 00:40:09,227
Speaker 2: win on any patch of grass.

824
00:40:10,267 --> 00:40:13,787
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think the young Feller, I mean, in a

825
00:40:13,827 --> 00:40:16,187
Speaker 18: tight game that could cost them. But I mean, to

826
00:40:16,227 --> 00:40:18,787
Speaker 18: be fair to him, for twenty six years they had

827
00:40:18,867 --> 00:40:20,187
Speaker 18: Merton's Carter and Mwanga.

828
00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:23,227
Speaker 2: Yes, right, I've had a couple of I had a

829
00:40:23,227 --> 00:40:25,187
Speaker 2: couple of good ones every though. Chris, Yeah, it's pretty

830
00:40:25,227 --> 00:40:26,987
Speaker 2: hard to compare him to those guys. But look, I'm

831
00:40:27,027 --> 00:40:29,227
Speaker 2: sure he will work on that. It'll be a work

832
00:40:29,267 --> 00:40:31,147
Speaker 2: on of course, it will. He'll look back, you know

833
00:40:31,427 --> 00:40:35,547
Speaker 2: today at the points he left out there and say, okay, cool, Well,

834
00:40:35,747 --> 00:40:37,667
Speaker 2: I'll work on that. That's a work on for me,

835
00:40:38,147 --> 00:40:41,267
Speaker 2: as they call it. Thanks for your call, Chris. Rob

836
00:40:41,267 --> 00:40:42,947
Speaker 2: Penny got bashed by the media for his run of

837
00:40:42,947 --> 00:40:44,867
Speaker 2: losses last year. Wise and vern Cott are getting the

838
00:40:44,907 --> 00:40:48,267
Speaker 2: same treatment. Even your avoiding the conversation, says Neil. I'm

839
00:40:48,267 --> 00:40:50,947
Speaker 2: not Neil really. I was actually preferring to focus on

840
00:40:50,987 --> 00:40:53,587
Speaker 2: the Crusaders. But vern Cott is under pressure. Of course

841
00:40:53,587 --> 00:40:56,587
Speaker 2: he is. I think what he has that Rob Penny

842
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,627
Speaker 2: didn't last year is a bit of credit in the bank.

843
00:40:59,227 --> 00:41:02,387
Speaker 2: I mean, vern Cottter led them to a drought breaking

844
00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:05,947
Speaker 2: championship last season. Rob Penny I think came in off

845
00:41:05,947 --> 00:41:09,507
Speaker 2: the back of Razor and after all that success, I

846
00:41:09,547 --> 00:41:11,707
Speaker 2: think that was the reason he was under a harsh spotlight.

847
00:41:11,747 --> 00:41:14,507
Speaker 2: But no, I'm not diverting attention away from vern Cotter

848
00:41:14,587 --> 00:41:17,907
Speaker 2: at all. I'd also say that I think vern Cotter

849
00:41:17,947 --> 00:41:19,827
Speaker 2: has the wherewithal to turn this around and I look

850
00:41:19,867 --> 00:41:22,027
Speaker 2: forward to him doing it. Thanks for your calls. After

851
00:41:22,067 --> 00:41:25,267
Speaker 2: one o'clock we paid tribute to George Foreman, who passed

852
00:41:25,267 --> 00:41:27,747
Speaker 2: away yesterday with boxing promoter Eddie Hearn.

853
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Speaker 2: It is I'm Jason Fineandy McDonnell is executive producer of

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Speaker 2: the show. Eddie hearn standing by the chat to us

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest names in boxing globally, paying tribute

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Speaker 2: to one of the biggest names in globe in boxing globally,

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Speaker 2: George Foreman, sadly passing away yesterday at the age of

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Speaker 2: seventy six. Get to Eddie Hearne shortly just mopping up

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Speaker 2: a few residual texts from last hour regarding the Crusaders.

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Speaker 2: Finding this conversation just proves how important it is to

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Speaker 2: have the more experienced players in the team to help

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Speaker 2: guide the younger guys, which helps them know and get

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Speaker 2: to grips with the mentality side of the game, says Mars,

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Speaker 2: and I hate the Crusaders. Yeah, you're say right, though

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Speaker 2: you could tell from listening to Yoanni Muana Nut how

871
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Speaker 2: big a factor Cody Taylor's played in his development. Good point,

872
00:42:39,947 --> 00:42:42,627
Speaker 2: says full about the exceptional kickers the Crusaders have had

873
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Speaker 2: down the years, they certainly have have produced first fives

874
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Speaker 2: of elite quality down the years, haven't they? Merchants? Karter Moonga?

875
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Speaker 2: I mean three of our absolute greats it to factory

876
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Speaker 2: down there. Look, I'm not saying that Taha Kemada will

877
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Speaker 2: reach the heights that those two did all those three,

878
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Speaker 2: Rather I did. But he's in a pretty good finishing school,

879
00:43:10,627 --> 00:43:13,187
Speaker 2: isn't he at the Crusaders? And how good, says Nicholas,

880
00:43:13,227 --> 00:43:16,347
Speaker 2: is this potential midfield combo for the All Blacks. David

881
00:43:16,347 --> 00:43:21,587
Speaker 2: Harvilly at twelve, Jordi Barrett at thirteen. I don't know.

882
00:43:21,867 --> 00:43:25,867
Speaker 2: I look on David Hartvilly, he was for he was

883
00:43:25,907 --> 00:43:27,787
Speaker 2: man of the match for me last night. I thought

884
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Speaker 2: David harvillly is the glue that holds that Crusader's back

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Speaker 2: line together, particularly when you consider that the number ten

886
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Speaker 2: is we've just talked about. Taje Kemda is a rookie

887
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Speaker 2: in Super rugby. Kyle Preston has only really just arrived

888
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Speaker 2: in Super rugby as well, so his nine ten combo

889
00:43:46,427 --> 00:43:49,947
Speaker 2: is very inexperienced. He's got Dallas McLeod outside himho's been

890
00:43:49,947 --> 00:43:51,667
Speaker 2: around for a little bit longer, and then of course

891
00:43:52,227 --> 00:43:54,427
Speaker 2: severa Reese and Will Jordan a bit further out. But

892
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Speaker 2: every time I looked at David Harvilli last night, and

893
00:43:59,867 --> 00:44:05,427
Speaker 2: particularly when the Crusaders were defending, his was the loudest voice.

894
00:44:05,707 --> 00:44:09,027
Speaker 2: His was the or. He was the one who was

895
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Speaker 2: giving instructions, who was making sure everybody was in the

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Speaker 2: right place, who was basically guiding that back line, and

897
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Speaker 2: then with ball in hand, you know, he's a he's

898
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Speaker 2: a very very good player. I think David Havilli in

899
00:44:20,467 --> 00:44:22,147
Speaker 2: the last couple of years has kind of fallen off

900
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Speaker 2: the or falling down the pecking order for the All Blacks.

901
00:44:26,227 --> 00:44:28,187
Speaker 2: And there was that experiment of trying him at first

902
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Speaker 2: five last year because they didn't have any first five.

903
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Speaker 2: We had about seven of them. He was one of

904
00:44:31,827 --> 00:44:35,427
Speaker 2: them that didn't work. I think second five is definitely

905
00:44:35,427 --> 00:44:37,907
Speaker 2: his best position. He's been sort of moved around the

906
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Speaker 2: All Blacks back line as well, and maybe you know,

907
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Speaker 2: used for his utility value off the bench, but he's

908
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Speaker 2: a second five and look, would Jordie want to play center,

909
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Speaker 2: because I think Jordi Barrett is still the first choice

910
00:44:51,107 --> 00:44:55,027
Speaker 2: second five. But here there's a bit to like about

911
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Speaker 2: Avily Jordi Barrett combination. I think I think Jordie Shild

912
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Speaker 2: twelve and there's going to be a big conversation to

913
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Speaker 2: be had to at All Blacks number thirteen again this year,

914
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Speaker 2: as there seems to be every year. Ricca Yowane I

915
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Speaker 2: think would accept he didn't have one of his better

916
00:45:09,827 --> 00:45:12,427
Speaker 2: games last night on a side that was well beaten.

917
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Speaker 2: Billy Propter. We haven't seen for the Hurricanes yet but

918
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Speaker 2: hopefully will soon. Others are putting their hands up. As always.

919
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Speaker 2: Super Rugby is a wonderful place to judge and to

920
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Speaker 2: have a look at players who you think might wear

921
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Speaker 2: the black jersey. But later on the year anyway, that's

922
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Speaker 2: the rugby done and dusted. Although there is still a

923
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Speaker 2: super ab game to go this weekend. Isn't there a

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Speaker 2: game out out in Western Australia later on tonight this

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Speaker 2: ye I don't normally pay too much attention, but with

926
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Speaker 2: my fantasy rugby team containing a couple of force and

927
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Speaker 2: drawer players, I am interested in what happens at five

928
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Speaker 2: past seven tonight over and over in Perth, so I'll

929
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Speaker 2: be keeping eyes on that. Just quick look ahead to

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Speaker 2: next weekend where a bunch of teams have to buy

931
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Speaker 2: Hurricanes warri tas Friday Night down in Wellington, Brumby's Highlanders

932
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Speaker 2: to follow. We'll have both of those games for you

933
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Speaker 2: on Gold Sport and iheartraate you next Friday Night, then Crusaders,

934
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Speaker 2: Morena Pacifica and Red's Force on Saturday Night. Looking forward

935
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Speaker 2: to that twelve past one. Profound sadness in the boxing

936
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Speaker 2: world with legendary boxer George Foreman passing away yesterday at

937
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Speaker 2: the age of seventy six. The big punching American heavyweight

938
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Speaker 2: won Olympic gold at the nineteen sixty eight Mexico Games

939
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Speaker 2: when he was just nineteen, and became world champion for

940
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Speaker 2: the first time in nineteen seventy three, starning the then

941
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Speaker 2: undefeated Joe Fraser, knocking him down six times in the

942
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Speaker 2: first two rounds. I think he hurt Joe Fraser. I

943
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Speaker 2: think Joe is hurt.

944
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Speaker 1: Angie Dune Dili's trainer ight next to me is saying that.

945
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Speaker 17: You may hear him down.

946
00:46:51,667 --> 00:46:56,387
Speaker 3: Goes Frasier, Down, Goes Frasier, Down, goes Fraser.

947
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Speaker 4: The heavyweight champion is taking.

948
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Speaker 3: The mandatory eight count and Farman is as poised as

949
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Speaker 3: can be in a new Joe Kinner.

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Speaker 17: It is over.

951
00:47:06,467 --> 00:47:07,187
Speaker 1: It is Wolva.

952
00:47:08,107 --> 00:47:10,187
Speaker 19: It is Halva in the second round.

953
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Speaker 17: George Crammon is the heavyweight champion.

954
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Speaker 2: Up the round, You love the commentary. Then a couple

955
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Speaker 2: of years later, George Foreman lost to Muhammad Ali. That

956
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Speaker 2: was nineteen seventy four, in the still iconic Rumble in

957
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Speaker 2: the Jungle in Ziam.

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00:47:26,267 --> 00:47:28,947
Speaker 14: Maybe this is a bit of tactic Bali to let

959
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Speaker 14: the man watch him, so bod thirty seconds left and

960
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Speaker 14: round eight another speaking right, Henny worked.

961
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Speaker 19: Over the shore with George.

962
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Speaker 2: It was Foreman's first professional loss to Muhammad Ali. He

963
00:48:06,747 --> 00:48:10,507
Speaker 2: retired George Foreman in nineteen seventy seven, but then in

964
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Speaker 2: one of the great comebacks, he returned to boxing, and

965
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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four, at the age of forty five,

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Speaker 2: he became the oldest world heavyweight champion in history, knocking

967
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Speaker 2: out twenty six year old Michael Mora. Now Michael Moore,

968
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Speaker 2: is that.

969
00:48:24,787 --> 00:48:27,907
Speaker 18: Goes far on a right hand, an.

970
00:48:27,747 --> 00:48:30,067
Speaker 2: Unbelievably concert right hand shot?

971
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Speaker 3: Ten?

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Speaker 2: No good, it happens.

973
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Speaker 14: It happened.

974
00:48:42,027 --> 00:48:44,827
Speaker 2: I can't believe it. You know, this is a two

975
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Speaker 2: to one faith but in my mind.

976
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Speaker 14: It was a gazillion to one that George Foreman could

977
00:48:50,227 --> 00:48:50,747
Speaker 14: have a win a.

978
00:48:50,747 --> 00:48:54,947
Speaker 2: Heavyweight championship a game, so some of the old power

979
00:48:55,107 --> 00:48:58,827
Speaker 2: was still there after all. It was indeed overall, George

980
00:48:58,827 --> 00:49:03,547
Speaker 2: Foreman boasted and astonishing seventy six wins, including sixty eight

981
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Speaker 2: by knockout. That's almost double the number of my Humed Ali.

982
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Speaker 2: British boxing giant, chair of matchro in Boxing and the

983
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Speaker 2: world's leading sports promoter Eddie Hearn is with us to

984
00:49:16,147 --> 00:49:19,467
Speaker 2: remember George Foreman. Eddie, thanks for joining us across New

985
00:49:19,547 --> 00:49:23,387
Speaker 2: Zealand on weekend sport Hell. Will you remember George Foreman?

986
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Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean iconic really in so many ways. I think,

987
00:49:26,947 --> 00:49:29,627
Speaker 20: you know, for me growing up, it was more about

988
00:49:29,627 --> 00:49:32,707
Speaker 20: the comeback, you know, this giant of an older man

989
00:49:32,787 --> 00:49:36,947
Speaker 20: really who seemed to have dynamite in his fists. And

990
00:49:37,107 --> 00:49:41,787
Speaker 20: I think the remarkable thing was obviously for me the

991
00:49:41,827 --> 00:49:45,307
Speaker 20: second phase of the career and doing it at that age.

992
00:49:45,347 --> 00:49:48,667
Speaker 20: I mean, you know, the older generations, probably my dad

993
00:49:48,707 --> 00:49:51,467
Speaker 20: and people like that, would really talk about, you know,

994
00:49:51,507 --> 00:49:54,227
Speaker 20: the fights with Fraser, particularly the first one in Jamaica.

995
00:49:54,267 --> 00:49:56,107
Speaker 20: I mean that was you know, he went over there

996
00:49:56,147 --> 00:49:59,387
Speaker 20: really as an opponent and knocked out Fraser in his

997
00:49:59,507 --> 00:50:03,227
Speaker 20: homecoming in Jamaica, obviously beat him twice. Of course the

998
00:50:03,307 --> 00:50:05,947
Speaker 20: rumble in the jungle, but for me kind of like

999
00:50:05,987 --> 00:50:09,147
Speaker 20: the second phase. And I think people forget about that

1000
00:50:09,267 --> 00:50:11,907
Speaker 20: route to become world heavyweight champion for the second time.

1001
00:50:11,947 --> 00:50:14,547
Speaker 20: It wasn't that he just came back in the ring

1002
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Speaker 20: and had one or two fights. He went on a

1003
00:50:16,507 --> 00:50:19,147
Speaker 20: long run, you know, ten years out of the ring

1004
00:50:19,187 --> 00:50:22,027
Speaker 20: and then came back. Actually lost to Tommy Morrison in

1005
00:50:22,067 --> 00:50:25,427
Speaker 20: the fight before Michael Morra when he become world heavyweight champion,

1006
00:50:25,467 --> 00:50:27,947
Speaker 20: And I remember that fight so clearly watching that when

1007
00:50:27,947 --> 00:50:30,267
Speaker 20: he knocked him out. I think Mara was twenty three

1008
00:50:30,307 --> 00:50:33,627
Speaker 20: and a zero at the time. You know, he was

1009
00:50:33,667 --> 00:50:37,307
Speaker 20: a a teddy Atlas fighter, very well regarded, and he

1010
00:50:37,387 --> 00:50:40,707
Speaker 20: just flattened him with an uppercut and you know, became

1011
00:50:40,867 --> 00:50:43,907
Speaker 20: a champion again. And you know, obviously people also know

1012
00:50:43,987 --> 00:50:46,347
Speaker 20: him outside of the boxing world for his products and

1013
00:50:46,347 --> 00:50:49,267
Speaker 20: his books and his grill and just just a sort

1014
00:50:49,307 --> 00:50:52,347
Speaker 20: of big, cuddly bear really, but in the early days

1015
00:50:52,387 --> 00:50:55,347
Speaker 20: of his career he was a real beast of a fighter,

1016
00:50:55,827 --> 00:50:59,187
Speaker 20: you know, a strong, strong man and you know, cuddly George,

1017
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Speaker 20: you know, lovable George. I met him once and he

1018
00:51:01,707 --> 00:51:04,147
Speaker 20: was just just had a huge smile on his face

1019
00:51:04,147 --> 00:51:04,667
Speaker 20: all the time.

1020
00:51:05,347 --> 00:51:09,347
Speaker 2: How important is the history of boxing, the iconic figures

1021
00:51:09,427 --> 00:51:13,147
Speaker 2: like George Foreman, like Fraser, like Ali in modern times?

1022
00:51:13,307 --> 00:51:15,947
Speaker 2: He how important is it that we still remember, you know,

1023
00:51:16,067 --> 00:51:18,707
Speaker 2: the great of the sport from those glory years of

1024
00:51:18,707 --> 00:51:19,907
Speaker 2: the sixties and seventies.

1025
00:51:20,707 --> 00:51:24,627
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, legacy is really only kind of evaluated

1026
00:51:24,667 --> 00:51:29,707
Speaker 20: over time, and unfortunately sometimes through passing. You know, I

1027
00:51:29,707 --> 00:51:33,827
Speaker 20: think in current sporting terms, you don't really talk about

1028
00:51:34,067 --> 00:51:36,107
Speaker 20: the effect that a player or a fighter, or a

1029
00:51:36,507 --> 00:51:39,667
Speaker 20: sportsman or an athlete has had under sport. It's only

1030
00:51:39,707 --> 00:51:42,147
Speaker 20: really when you reflect on them. And sometimes it's at

1031
00:51:42,187 --> 00:51:44,827
Speaker 20: moments like this and you sort of go back over

1032
00:51:44,867 --> 00:51:47,947
Speaker 20: the history of time and there's very few people who

1033
00:51:48,107 --> 00:51:52,107
Speaker 20: can walk in in that group that Foreman has walked in,

1034
00:51:52,227 --> 00:51:54,227
Speaker 20: and it is you know, I mean, our league can

1035
00:51:54,267 --> 00:51:56,627
Speaker 20: sometimes be a standout, but it is you know, Frasier

1036
00:51:56,627 --> 00:51:59,267
Speaker 20: and listening, and Foreman was beyond those guys. You know,

1037
00:51:59,387 --> 00:52:02,547
Speaker 20: Foreman carried himself for a long period of time. Foreman

1038
00:52:02,627 --> 00:52:06,347
Speaker 20: came back to win you know, two heavyweight world champions.

1039
00:52:06,507 --> 00:52:08,787
Speaker 20: He was an Olympic gold medalist as well, and you know,

1040
00:52:08,787 --> 00:52:10,427
Speaker 20: he did a lot outside the ring as well, and

1041
00:52:10,507 --> 00:52:11,467
Speaker 20: he'll be sadly missed.

1042
00:52:11,947 --> 00:52:14,307
Speaker 2: As far as coming back like he did. You alluded

1043
00:52:14,347 --> 00:52:18,027
Speaker 2: to it before, but just how challenging must that have

1044
00:52:18,147 --> 00:52:21,347
Speaker 2: been for him? How challenging is it for a forty

1045
00:52:21,427 --> 00:52:23,387
Speaker 2: five year old to get back in the ring against

1046
00:52:23,787 --> 00:52:26,027
Speaker 2: much younger men and win again.

1047
00:52:27,307 --> 00:52:30,187
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think it's the only division you can do

1048
00:52:30,227 --> 00:52:32,787
Speaker 20: it is the heavyweight division. But again, you've never seen it,

1049
00:52:32,987 --> 00:52:36,147
Speaker 20: you know, You've never seen a guy who's been iconic

1050
00:52:36,547 --> 00:52:39,027
Speaker 20: and regarded as the best heavyweight work, you know, in

1051
00:52:39,067 --> 00:52:43,147
Speaker 20: the world of the prime, and then come back ten

1052
00:52:43,227 --> 00:52:44,867
Speaker 20: years later. I mean, I think I don't know the

1053
00:52:44,907 --> 00:52:47,787
Speaker 20: exact time, but he didn't win the world championship ten

1054
00:52:47,867 --> 00:52:50,707
Speaker 20: years after the comeback. The comeback was ten years later.

1055
00:52:51,307 --> 00:52:53,267
Speaker 20: It took a good few years for him to challenge

1056
00:52:53,267 --> 00:52:54,747
Speaker 20: for the world heavyweight tile, and he did it off

1057
00:52:54,787 --> 00:52:57,587
Speaker 20: the back of a defeat, which is quite rare, you know.

1058
00:52:57,787 --> 00:53:00,387
Speaker 20: And again he went into that Michael morri fire that

1059
00:53:00,467 --> 00:53:04,267
Speaker 20: they picked George Foreman as a name for that fight.

1060
00:53:04,947 --> 00:53:07,547
Speaker 20: When he came back, it was like he was the

1061
00:53:07,547 --> 00:53:10,987
Speaker 20: best heavyweight in the world. People criticized his comeback actually,

1062
00:53:11,027 --> 00:53:13,227
Speaker 20: you know, and said why is this guy coming back

1063
00:53:13,267 --> 00:53:17,387
Speaker 20: now he's forty odd years old. It's dangerous, it's this

1064
00:53:17,547 --> 00:53:21,467
Speaker 20: and that, and his performances were that not of a

1065
00:53:21,547 --> 00:53:24,587
Speaker 20: normal forty year old, but certainly of a forty year old.

1066
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Speaker 20: And actually there were times where I remember watching thinking

1067
00:53:27,547 --> 00:53:29,667
Speaker 20: I don't want to see him by anymore, don't see

1068
00:53:29,707 --> 00:53:32,547
Speaker 20: him take punishment. And they rolled him out against Michael

1069
00:53:32,627 --> 00:53:34,747
Speaker 20: Mora as like, oh, he's a good name, you know,

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00:53:34,787 --> 00:53:37,187
Speaker 20: that would be good for the record, and he knocks

1071
00:53:37,267 --> 00:53:39,187
Speaker 20: him out to win, and it was just such a

1072
00:53:39,187 --> 00:53:41,707
Speaker 20: mad moment. And if you haven't seen it, watch it

1073
00:53:41,787 --> 00:53:44,827
Speaker 20: back and sort of look at his face. You know,

1074
00:53:44,867 --> 00:53:47,907
Speaker 20: he didn't actually seem that surprised when he won that fight.

1075
00:53:48,147 --> 00:53:53,107
Speaker 20: And yeah, it's never recommended to turn back to such

1076
00:53:53,107 --> 00:53:55,467
Speaker 20: a dangerous boot at that age, but you know, he

1077
00:53:55,507 --> 00:53:57,787
Speaker 20: did it, and what he did will always be remembered.

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00:53:58,187 --> 00:54:00,627
Speaker 2: You mentioned idiot met him once. What was he like

1079
00:54:00,667 --> 00:54:01,187
Speaker 2: in person?

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00:54:02,627 --> 00:54:07,867
Speaker 20: Just like a big sort of you know, big bear,

1081
00:54:08,267 --> 00:54:12,227
Speaker 20: really like had time for everybody, you know, big smile

1082
00:54:12,267 --> 00:54:15,587
Speaker 20: on his face and one of those guys like it's

1083
00:54:15,667 --> 00:54:17,987
Speaker 20: not I've been around boxing since I was There's very

1084
00:54:18,027 --> 00:54:20,027
Speaker 20: few people that I would look at and go, oh

1085
00:54:20,067 --> 00:54:23,587
Speaker 20: my god, look there's George, you know, and ask for

1086
00:54:23,827 --> 00:54:26,547
Speaker 20: a photo as well, and he's definitely one of them.

1087
00:54:27,107 --> 00:54:30,987
Speaker 20: And there's probably that's probably a list of five or

1088
00:54:31,027 --> 00:54:34,107
Speaker 20: six fighters that you could read off, you know, Mike Tyson, Sugar,

1089
00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:41,507
Speaker 20: Ray Leonard, probably Jeran Hagler, Lewis, Lens Lewis, you know,

1090
00:54:41,587 --> 00:54:44,187
Speaker 20: George Forman. Like there's a very slight risk for me

1091
00:54:44,387 --> 00:54:46,187
Speaker 20: around these people every day. But that was like, oh

1092
00:54:46,227 --> 00:54:48,307
Speaker 20: my god, look there's George Foreman and that that says

1093
00:54:48,307 --> 00:54:48,627
Speaker 20: it all.

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00:54:49,027 --> 00:54:50,107
Speaker 2: Really, it does?

1095
00:54:50,187 --> 00:54:50,507
Speaker 9: It does.

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00:54:50,747 --> 00:54:53,827
Speaker 2: Can you see heavyweight box and returning to those glamor

1097
00:54:53,907 --> 00:54:56,547
Speaker 2: days of the fighters you've just reeled off?

1098
00:54:57,427 --> 00:54:59,147
Speaker 20: To be honest, I think when we talk about glamma

1099
00:54:59,227 --> 00:55:01,987
Speaker 20: days again, that only comes when you look back. I

1100
00:55:01,987 --> 00:55:04,187
Speaker 20: think we're actually in a wonderful period at the moment.

1101
00:55:04,227 --> 00:55:06,827
Speaker 20: You know, we just had Fury you sick twice. You know,

1102
00:55:06,867 --> 00:55:09,587
Speaker 20: you had Dubois Joshua in front of ninety six thousand

1103
00:55:09,587 --> 00:55:12,507
Speaker 20: at Wembley. You know, but there's so many good contenders now,

1104
00:55:12,547 --> 00:55:15,547
Speaker 20: Like you know, Caveat against Zang was great. Joseph Parker's

1105
00:55:15,587 --> 00:55:20,587
Speaker 20: making a run, you know. I think during that time

1106
00:55:20,627 --> 00:55:23,027
Speaker 20: when these guys are around, no one was really saying, wow,

1107
00:55:23,067 --> 00:55:25,867
Speaker 20: this is a golden time. Wow that like, you just

1108
00:55:25,947 --> 00:55:28,027
Speaker 20: look back at those fights over history in time and

1109
00:55:28,067 --> 00:55:30,227
Speaker 20: say what a period that was. It's a bit like

1110
00:55:30,267 --> 00:55:32,987
Speaker 20: the Four Kings, you know, Hagler, Herns and Leonard and Durant.

1111
00:55:33,267 --> 00:55:35,347
Speaker 20: At the time, no one was going, oh what a

1112
00:55:35,427 --> 00:55:37,627
Speaker 20: time this is for box this is a glory years.

1113
00:55:37,827 --> 00:55:39,827
Speaker 20: But then you look back at those moments and say

1114
00:55:39,827 --> 00:55:42,467
Speaker 20: what a period that was. And we get to do

1115
00:55:42,547 --> 00:55:44,187
Speaker 20: that with Foreman, and I think we will do that

1116
00:55:44,227 --> 00:55:46,947
Speaker 20: for the heavyweight division now. But you know, we've got

1117
00:55:46,947 --> 00:55:49,307
Speaker 20: to keep making sure the best fight the best.

1118
00:55:49,227 --> 00:55:50,667
Speaker 2: And just to finis just while I've got you with

1119
00:55:50,707 --> 00:55:52,907
Speaker 2: a New Zealand audience across our country. What do you

1120
00:55:52,947 --> 00:55:54,827
Speaker 2: predict for Joseph Parker? I know, you know, I'm well,

1121
00:55:55,147 --> 00:55:57,507
Speaker 2: this fight with Daniel Dubois didn't go ahead last month.

1122
00:55:57,547 --> 00:55:59,827
Speaker 2: Will he get the chance to fight Usa Kez ordered

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00:55:59,827 --> 00:56:01,747
Speaker 2: by the WBO? Do you think?

1124
00:56:02,627 --> 00:56:04,747
Speaker 20: I hope so? I mean he really deserves his shot.

1125
00:56:04,787 --> 00:56:06,667
Speaker 20: I mean I'd love Joe in and out the ring.

1126
00:56:06,707 --> 00:56:09,787
Speaker 20: I think he's just a tremendous man and he's worked

1127
00:56:09,787 --> 00:56:11,787
Speaker 20: so hard and when you look at his recent victories,

1128
00:56:12,667 --> 00:56:18,387
Speaker 20: you know Zier Laisin Bacoli just recently as well Deonte Wilder.

1129
00:56:18,707 --> 00:56:20,387
Speaker 20: How can you not give him a shot? I would

1130
00:56:20,387 --> 00:56:22,027
Speaker 20: like to see him fight Daniel Duboit. I mean that

1131
00:56:22,067 --> 00:56:25,867
Speaker 20: fight was contracted, that fight was made, and Dubois pulled

1132
00:56:25,907 --> 00:56:28,747
Speaker 20: out twenty four hours before the fight. So for me,

1133
00:56:28,907 --> 00:56:31,587
Speaker 20: that fight should be rescheduled. And I think it can

1134
00:56:31,627 --> 00:56:34,827
Speaker 20: beat Daniel Duboat. Whosik's a tougher ask. But Joe's in

1135
00:56:34,867 --> 00:56:38,547
Speaker 20: great form, great spirits, physically, personally, emotion like you know,

1136
00:56:38,587 --> 00:56:40,947
Speaker 20: and I think he could win the world heavyweight title.

1137
00:56:40,987 --> 00:56:42,187
Speaker 20: So hopefully gets his shot.

1138
00:56:42,427 --> 00:56:44,827
Speaker 2: Type so it he appreciate your a very busy man

1139
00:56:44,867 --> 00:56:46,987
Speaker 2: with a very busy shoede you. Oh Sydney last night,

1140
00:56:46,987 --> 00:56:47,467
Speaker 2: how did that go?

1141
00:56:48,547 --> 00:56:51,787
Speaker 20: Amazing? Yeah, it was an amazing night, our first ever

1142
00:56:51,827 --> 00:56:55,427
Speaker 20: show in Sydney. George Cambosa's returned for a young kid

1143
00:56:55,467 --> 00:56:58,707
Speaker 20: from Queensland who just did not stop. I mean they

1144
00:56:58,707 --> 00:57:01,787
Speaker 20: had an absolute war, and yeah, it was a great

1145
00:57:01,867 --> 00:57:03,627
Speaker 20: night of boxing in Sydney. And now we're off on

1146
00:57:03,667 --> 00:57:06,267
Speaker 20: the plane back to Manchester for a show on Friday.

1147
00:57:06,387 --> 00:57:08,787
Speaker 2: So it doesn't stop, it does not stop again. Thank

1148
00:57:08,827 --> 00:57:10,787
Speaker 2: you so much for your time remembering George Foreman. Eddie

1149
00:57:10,867 --> 00:57:13,547
Speaker 2: really appreciate you taking our call. Thanks, take care, you

1150
00:57:13,587 --> 00:57:16,987
Speaker 2: take care to Eddie Hearn, the one and only on

1151
00:57:17,347 --> 00:57:20,147
Speaker 2: George Foreman, and some cool comments at the end there

1152
00:57:20,147 --> 00:57:24,147
Speaker 2: about Joseph Parker as well one twenty three boxing fans

1153
00:57:24,187 --> 00:57:27,187
Speaker 2: and particularly those of you with a few more years

1154
00:57:27,227 --> 00:57:30,067
Speaker 2: under your belt, shall we say, how do you remember

1155
00:57:30,107 --> 00:57:32,907
Speaker 2: George Foreman? And Edy made such a good in fact,

1156
00:57:32,907 --> 00:57:34,787
Speaker 2: he made thousands of good points, well a few anyway

1157
00:57:34,827 --> 00:57:37,707
Speaker 2: in that chat. But the point about how when an

1158
00:57:37,747 --> 00:57:41,067
Speaker 2: era is, when you're in an era, you don't actually think, oh,

1159
00:57:41,107 --> 00:57:44,067
Speaker 2: what a wonderful time this is. It's only on looking

1160
00:57:44,107 --> 00:57:47,227
Speaker 2: back that you think, wow, what a wonderful time that was.

1161
00:57:47,627 --> 00:57:50,107
Speaker 2: But you think about those fights that George Foreman was

1162
00:57:50,147 --> 00:57:55,387
Speaker 2: in Rumble in the Jungle, the first one against Joe Frasier,

1163
00:57:55,467 --> 00:57:58,667
Speaker 2: knocking him down six times in two rounds, and then,

1164
00:57:59,387 --> 00:58:02,787
Speaker 2: as Eddie Hearn just pointed out, his most vivid memory

1165
00:58:02,867 --> 00:58:08,667
Speaker 2: is the comeback and become the oldest world heavyweight champion

1166
00:58:08,707 --> 00:58:12,347
Speaker 2: in history, knocking out Michael Moore in nineteen ninety four.

1167
00:58:12,707 --> 00:58:15,627
Speaker 2: But if you've got any particularly vivid memories of watching

1168
00:58:15,667 --> 00:58:19,027
Speaker 2: George Foreman or just that era of boxing with Ali

1169
00:58:19,107 --> 00:58:21,747
Speaker 2: and Fraser and the others. We'd love to hear from you.

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00:58:22,027 --> 00:58:24,387
Speaker 2: Our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number

1171
00:58:24,587 --> 00:58:27,507
Speaker 2: nine two ninety two on text. Let's talk about of boxing.

1172
00:58:27,587 --> 00:58:28,907
Speaker 2: We'll do that when we come back with some of

1173
00:58:28,947 --> 00:58:29,627
Speaker 2: your course.

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Speaker 1: Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend Sport

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00:58:34,547 --> 00:58:38,907
Speaker 1: with Jason Vain and GJ. Gunners, New Zealand's most trusted home.

1176
00:58:38,787 --> 00:58:42,427
Speaker 2: Builder, News Talk one twenty seven remembering the life and

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Speaker 2: boxing career of the late George Foreman. Derek, I'm glad

1178
00:58:45,827 --> 00:58:47,387
Speaker 2: you've called. What do you think of when you think

1179
00:58:47,427 --> 00:58:48,187
Speaker 2: of George Foreman?

1180
00:58:49,147 --> 00:58:51,747
Speaker 17: Ah, Look, it's it's great now, of course, because we're

1181
00:58:52,027 --> 00:58:54,667
Speaker 17: we've got the modern technology of YouTube and we can

1182
00:58:54,667 --> 00:58:57,227
Speaker 17: look up all George Foreman's great fights and a lot

1183
00:58:57,227 --> 00:58:58,787
Speaker 17: of the film is really good too, by the way,

1184
00:58:58,827 --> 00:59:00,987
Speaker 17: you know some of the film that the nineteen seventy

1185
00:59:00,987 --> 00:59:05,867
Speaker 17: seven fight before he decided to retire for the first

1186
00:59:05,907 --> 00:59:09,067
Speaker 17: time against Jimmy Young was a fifteen round classic. He

1187
00:59:09,147 --> 00:59:12,267
Speaker 17: ended up losing that fight in a very narrow decision,

1188
00:59:12,347 --> 00:59:14,387
Speaker 17: but it was afterwards he decided to retire and then

1189
00:59:14,387 --> 00:59:17,147
Speaker 17: to come back after that. And I remember this guy

1190
00:59:17,147 --> 00:59:19,427
Speaker 17: at work once telling me that I was just listening

1191
00:59:19,427 --> 00:59:22,667
Speaker 17: to late Night talkSPORT back in the nineties where somebody

1192
00:59:22,747 --> 00:59:25,507
Speaker 17: was talking about the comeback of George Foreman, like he'll

1193
00:59:25,507 --> 00:59:30,147
Speaker 17: ever come back and win a title. He came back,

1194
00:59:30,187 --> 00:59:32,747
Speaker 17: and you know that Michael Morra fight. He would have

1195
00:59:32,787 --> 00:59:36,987
Speaker 17: lost every minute of every round of that fight up

1196
00:59:37,067 --> 00:59:39,867
Speaker 17: until the point that Michael Mora decided to take a

1197
00:59:40,347 --> 00:59:41,587
Speaker 17: just a bit of a breath. That you see it

1198
00:59:41,587 --> 00:59:43,867
Speaker 17: all the time in these long fights over a twelve rounds,

1199
00:59:43,867 --> 00:59:45,507
Speaker 17: were a fighter who might be on top, he might

1200
00:59:45,507 --> 00:59:48,107
Speaker 17: have thrown a lot of punches, they sort of coast around,

1201
00:59:48,147 --> 00:59:49,507
Speaker 17: you know, try and take a bit of a break

1202
00:59:49,547 --> 00:59:52,627
Speaker 17: and then accelerate the round after that. But while he

1203
00:59:52,747 --> 00:59:54,227
Speaker 17: was taking a bit of a break in front of

1204
00:59:54,227 --> 00:59:56,827
Speaker 17: George Foreman, you saw one of the best one twos.

1205
00:59:57,107 --> 00:59:59,627
Speaker 17: That's always been the best combination in boxing. It's the

1206
00:59:59,627 --> 01:00:01,827
Speaker 17: one two the left right down the middle. And that's

1207
01:00:01,867 --> 01:00:03,507
Speaker 17: what he did. And that's my thing. He noticed when

1208
01:00:03,507 --> 01:00:07,547
Speaker 17: he came back for a second stint boxing was just

1209
01:00:07,587 --> 01:00:10,147
Speaker 17: to relax a bit more and throw punches down the

1210
01:00:10,187 --> 01:00:13,027
Speaker 17: middle rather and then wait for his chance because as

1211
01:00:13,027 --> 01:00:17,907
Speaker 17: he pointed out before, his knockout ratio is fantastic. I

1212
01:00:17,907 --> 01:00:21,227
Speaker 17: think only only fighters like Archie More and maybe even

1213
01:00:21,267 --> 01:00:24,707
Speaker 17: Sugar Ray Robinson, and from different divisions only they've got

1214
01:00:24,707 --> 01:00:27,707
Speaker 17: a better knockout ratio than George Foreman. And of course

1215
01:00:27,747 --> 01:00:30,307
Speaker 17: George waited until that till till Moore. It took a

1216
01:00:30,347 --> 01:00:32,427
Speaker 17: little bit of a break the left right down the middle.

1217
01:00:32,427 --> 01:00:34,867
Speaker 17: And look, I remember watching that fight. I never thought

1218
01:00:34,867 --> 01:00:36,747
Speaker 17: for one moment that Michael Moore was going to get up.

1219
01:00:36,787 --> 01:00:40,067
Speaker 17: I never thought. I mean, I saw Freddie Atlas, Teddy Atlas,

1220
01:00:40,067 --> 01:00:43,907
Speaker 17: sorry in the corner, waving around for fanatically, you know,

1221
01:00:43,907 --> 01:00:45,347
Speaker 17: at the side, telling him to get up, but he

1222
01:00:45,467 --> 01:00:47,107
Speaker 17: was he was never going to get up because he

1223
01:00:47,147 --> 01:00:50,027
Speaker 17: wasn't really a he wasn't really a full strength heavyweight.

1224
01:00:50,067 --> 01:00:53,147
Speaker 17: He'd come up from I think more the cruiseweight division

1225
01:00:53,187 --> 01:00:55,787
Speaker 17: or the junior heavyweight division and up against a real

1226
01:00:55,987 --> 01:00:59,267
Speaker 17: hard banger, a man in that powerful punch in both hands.

1227
01:00:59,507 --> 01:01:01,907
Speaker 17: Foreman had a punch in both hands. The problem is

1228
01:01:01,947 --> 01:01:03,747
Speaker 17: you just didn't want to stand too close to it.

1229
01:01:04,027 --> 01:01:06,987
Speaker 17: And I think a lot of people, unfortunately, rather than

1230
01:01:07,027 --> 01:01:10,667
Speaker 17: remember George Foreman, they tend to get a little sidetracked

1231
01:01:10,707 --> 01:01:13,547
Speaker 17: and start talking about talking about the Muhammad Ali fight,

1232
01:01:13,587 --> 01:01:16,507
Speaker 17: where it was a funny situation because when he beat

1233
01:01:16,867 --> 01:01:19,187
Speaker 17: when he beat Joe Fraser and Jamaica in two rounds,

1234
01:01:19,387 --> 01:01:21,307
Speaker 17: that was a case of Joe Fraser thinking he was

1235
01:01:21,307 --> 01:01:23,547
Speaker 17: further ahead of the pack than he actually was. That

1236
01:01:23,627 --> 01:01:26,267
Speaker 17: he hearn just just talked about it before, and he

1237
01:01:26,307 --> 01:01:28,067
Speaker 17: wasn't in the best shape he could have been. Joe

1238
01:01:28,067 --> 01:01:31,467
Speaker 17: Fraser element that himself. Come nineteen seventy four, of course,

1239
01:01:31,587 --> 01:01:34,147
Speaker 17: Muhammad Ali had already lost to Ken Norton, and he'd

1240
01:01:34,187 --> 01:01:37,427
Speaker 17: already lost to Joe Fraser quite convincingly. But then when

1241
01:01:37,427 --> 01:01:40,547
Speaker 17: Fraser and Norton both fought George Foreman, they were demolished

1242
01:01:40,587 --> 01:01:42,707
Speaker 17: in two rounds each. So by the time he went

1243
01:01:42,747 --> 01:01:44,867
Speaker 17: to fight Muhammad Ali, he wasn't in the best shape,

1244
01:01:45,067 --> 01:01:46,827
Speaker 17: and he thought to himself, why should he be. He'd

1245
01:01:46,867 --> 01:01:49,587
Speaker 17: already demolished two guys that had beaten Muhammad Ali. What

1246
01:01:49,627 --> 01:01:52,347
Speaker 17: he didn't recognize that night, of course, was the heat

1247
01:01:53,147 --> 01:01:54,347
Speaker 17: of Zaya and the.

1248
01:01:54,267 --> 01:01:55,107
Speaker 9: Fact that Uhammad Ali.

1249
01:01:55,187 --> 01:01:56,747
Speaker 17: We didn't realize at the time he had a great

1250
01:01:56,787 --> 01:02:00,307
Speaker 17: shin and he took so much punishment against George Foreman

1251
01:02:00,387 --> 01:02:03,067
Speaker 17: and that fight in seventy four so much punishment that

1252
01:02:03,107 --> 01:02:04,427
Speaker 17: at the end of the day it sort of ruined

1253
01:02:04,427 --> 01:02:07,147
Speaker 17: his life. And you look at George afterwards, the story

1254
01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:09,227
Speaker 17: of a fighter, and we don't talk about this very

1255
01:02:09,267 --> 01:02:14,347
Speaker 17: often about boxes after they finished fighting, becoming a financial success,

1256
01:02:14,427 --> 01:02:16,747
Speaker 17: a tytoon, and I remember him coming out with this

1257
01:02:17,507 --> 01:02:21,347
Speaker 17: tremendous reality show where his family got together, his son

1258
01:02:21,427 --> 01:02:23,387
Speaker 17: was his manager, and they bought an India. I remember

1259
01:02:23,427 --> 01:02:27,387
Speaker 17: they brought an IndyCar as well during the IndyCar series,

1260
01:02:27,747 --> 01:02:29,507
Speaker 17: and of course he was worth so much money because

1261
01:02:29,507 --> 01:02:31,467
Speaker 17: of George forman grill, and it was just just a

1262
01:02:31,507 --> 01:02:34,387
Speaker 17: great story, not just the boxing career, which was successful,

1263
01:02:34,427 --> 01:02:36,947
Speaker 17: but after the boxing career, and people that normally talk

1264
01:02:36,987 --> 01:02:39,107
Speaker 17: about that sort of thing, and really you look at

1265
01:02:39,427 --> 01:02:42,307
Speaker 17: other fighters compared to George Foreman, and it always makes

1266
01:02:42,347 --> 01:02:45,787
Speaker 17: me laugh. Once a fighter has passed away, there's no

1267
01:02:45,787 --> 01:02:48,787
Speaker 17: doubt that in certain magazines and certain websites now there'll

1268
01:02:48,827 --> 01:02:52,347
Speaker 17: be people putting together our top ten greatest heavyweights of

1269
01:02:52,347 --> 01:02:53,627
Speaker 17: all time. And I think there are a lot of

1270
01:02:53,627 --> 01:02:55,827
Speaker 17: people out there. I'm in a top ten in no

1271
01:02:55,907 --> 01:02:57,947
Speaker 17: particular order, but there are a lot of people out there. Now,

1272
01:02:57,947 --> 01:03:00,347
Speaker 17: I would like to look towards the top ten and

1273
01:03:00,427 --> 01:03:02,987
Speaker 17: just say, would George Foreman be in that top ten?

1274
01:03:03,027 --> 01:03:04,987
Speaker 17: And I think there are quite a few people that

1275
01:03:05,027 --> 01:03:08,427
Speaker 17: would say yes, would be maybe not for his furstont,

1276
01:03:08,627 --> 01:03:10,827
Speaker 17: or maybe for his furstant or maybe for a second

1277
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Speaker 17: Stent or maybe Boston's put together. I mean, would he

1278
01:03:13,427 --> 01:03:15,627
Speaker 17: be in the top ten greatest heavyweights of all time?

1279
01:03:15,627 --> 01:03:17,907
Speaker 17: I think it's it's a tremendous talking point. And now

1280
01:03:17,907 --> 01:03:20,987
Speaker 17: that George has passed away, are really looking forward to

1281
01:03:20,987 --> 01:03:21,747
Speaker 17: that debate? Had me?

1282
01:03:21,907 --> 01:03:24,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, Good on you, Derek. Good analysis from you as always, mate,

1283
01:03:24,667 --> 01:03:27,947
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time to call in Dobo. Good

1284
01:03:27,947 --> 01:03:29,707
Speaker 2: to Jet to you as well, mate. George Foreman, what

1285
01:03:29,747 --> 01:03:30,667
Speaker 2: do you remember most?

1286
01:03:31,627 --> 01:03:35,947
Speaker 21: Yeah, just three quick points. I mean his story career

1287
01:03:36,067 --> 01:03:39,147
Speaker 21: has been shared and you've covered a lot of ground

1288
01:03:39,187 --> 01:03:42,347
Speaker 21: and Eddie Hearn was very fascinating. Just three quick points, mate,

1289
01:03:42,467 --> 01:03:45,187
Speaker 21: Number one. We'll talk about his last fight. I think

1290
01:03:45,187 --> 01:03:47,667
Speaker 21: it was ninety seven to ninety eight against Shannon Braggs,

1291
01:03:47,667 --> 01:03:53,467
Speaker 21: the winner to take on the well the inconquerable Lennox Lewis,

1292
01:03:53,827 --> 01:03:57,707
Speaker 21: and it was it was a stinker. Everybody thought Foreman

1293
01:03:57,747 --> 01:03:59,947
Speaker 21: had won, and yet they gave you a Navis points

1294
01:03:59,947 --> 01:04:04,587
Speaker 21: decision to Briggs and so Foreman picked up the microphone

1295
01:04:04,627 --> 01:04:07,067
Speaker 21: and says, well, that's a shock. If you're going to

1296
01:04:07,107 --> 01:04:09,307
Speaker 21: treat me like that, I'm going to retire again. And

1297
01:04:09,347 --> 01:04:12,947
Speaker 21: that was the end of it. And what's what's fascinating, Poney,

1298
01:04:13,027 --> 01:04:16,667
Speaker 21: was that just recently read an article about Lewis, who

1299
01:04:17,267 --> 01:04:21,467
Speaker 21: was the undisputed king until finally use that came along.

1300
01:04:21,507 --> 01:04:24,187
Speaker 21: All though, you know, just recently after quarter of a century,

1301
01:04:24,227 --> 01:04:28,227
Speaker 21: we crowned our last undisputed heavyweight, and Lewis said that

1302
01:04:28,347 --> 01:04:30,347
Speaker 21: there was one fighter he did not want to fight.

1303
01:04:30,467 --> 01:04:30,787
Speaker 4: Period.

1304
01:04:30,827 --> 01:04:34,747
Speaker 21: Of course, he beat Evander Holyfield, he beat Tyson k Tyson.

1305
01:04:34,787 --> 01:04:38,507
Speaker 21: He didn't want to fight Foreman for two reasons. Number one,

1306
01:04:39,147 --> 01:04:41,667
Speaker 21: if he beat the old man, he was an old man.

1307
01:04:42,147 --> 01:04:44,387
Speaker 9: And if he lost to the old man, he's an

1308
01:04:44,387 --> 01:04:44,867
Speaker 9: old man.

1309
01:04:47,507 --> 01:04:49,747
Speaker 21: So Lewis didn't want to fight him and he's and

1310
01:04:49,827 --> 01:04:51,707
Speaker 21: he said, oh, thank god, Briggs one. But it was

1311
01:04:51,747 --> 01:04:54,587
Speaker 21: it was an absolute sham that points card was a shocker, mate.

1312
01:04:54,707 --> 01:04:59,387
Speaker 21: And just finally George from Thrills to Spells to the Grill,

1313
01:04:59,507 --> 01:05:02,187
Speaker 21: remember this, This current generation will remember him for the grill.

1314
01:05:02,387 --> 01:05:05,107
Speaker 2: Pony, yep, absolutely he was.

1315
01:05:05,227 --> 01:05:07,907
Speaker 21: He was a preacher, so he had the Evangelical Church

1316
01:05:07,987 --> 01:05:09,707
Speaker 21: of the World on his side as well, so that

1317
01:05:09,827 --> 01:05:13,787
Speaker 21: added to his icon status. Perhaps one of his most

1318
01:05:13,867 --> 01:05:17,347
Speaker 21: unusual legalcies. I will leave you with this six sons

1319
01:05:17,787 --> 01:05:21,707
Speaker 21: George Junior first, George Junior, second, George Junior, third, George Junior, fourth,

1320
01:05:21,747 --> 01:05:25,027
Speaker 21: George Junior, fifth, George Junior six. And I had to

1321
01:05:25,067 --> 01:05:26,987
Speaker 21: promised interview on once. I said, George, how do you

1322
01:05:27,027 --> 01:05:29,387
Speaker 21: call your sons? He just calls them by their number six,

1323
01:05:29,507 --> 01:05:30,507
Speaker 21: George sax.

1324
01:05:32,587 --> 01:05:32,827
Speaker 22: Dom.

1325
01:05:32,867 --> 01:05:35,267
Speaker 2: I love it, mate, love it. Great memories from you,

1326
01:05:35,387 --> 01:05:39,107
Speaker 2: thanks for calling and outstanding stuff. We're talking George forman

1327
01:05:39,147 --> 01:05:39,707
Speaker 2: ge grunt.

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01:05:40,867 --> 01:05:44,067
Speaker 22: Yeah, piney, Well, as you requested an old timer ringing

1329
01:05:44,147 --> 01:05:46,227
Speaker 22: into boxing, you grant.

1330
01:05:46,267 --> 01:05:48,667
Speaker 2: I didn't look. I wasn't. I wasn't directing that comment

1331
01:05:48,867 --> 01:05:50,187
Speaker 2: specifically at you, mate.

1332
01:05:51,787 --> 01:05:55,187
Speaker 22: No, no, there's nothing wrong with being called an old timer.

1333
01:05:55,267 --> 01:05:57,747
Speaker 22: I mean you mean you've left lead a good enough

1334
01:05:57,787 --> 01:06:03,147
Speaker 22: life to be still alized. That's right on the boxing. Yeah.

1335
01:06:03,267 --> 01:06:08,147
Speaker 22: Unfortunately most of those major fights were on because they

1336
01:06:08,147 --> 01:06:10,747
Speaker 22: had to fill in with American TV time on around

1337
01:06:10,747 --> 01:06:14,027
Speaker 22: about sort of two o'clock in the afternoon on a weekday,

1338
01:06:14,467 --> 01:06:16,987
Speaker 22: and so you know there'll always be who was some

1339
01:06:17,387 --> 01:06:19,907
Speaker 22: people in the office and will be sneaking out, will

1340
01:06:19,947 --> 01:06:22,467
Speaker 22: either go to the pub or or go go and

1341
01:06:22,547 --> 01:06:27,827
Speaker 22: stand outside a TV shop and watch it on TV.

1342
01:06:28,427 --> 01:06:31,947
Speaker 22: And now with George Foreman, that he'd have to be

1343
01:06:32,067 --> 01:06:35,227
Speaker 22: one of the in the say the top three hair

1344
01:06:35,347 --> 01:06:39,187
Speaker 22: hardest punches in my opinion and ever in boxing as

1345
01:06:39,227 --> 01:06:41,467
Speaker 22: to whether he's number one, and you know that would

1346
01:06:41,467 --> 01:06:46,227
Speaker 22: be debatable, but I mean it was such a nice

1347
01:06:46,267 --> 01:06:50,227
Speaker 22: guy unless you are unless you are standing up against

1348
01:06:50,307 --> 01:06:54,307
Speaker 22: them in the ring. And of course Muhammad Ali, you know,

1349
01:06:54,627 --> 01:06:58,467
Speaker 22: he realized that he couldn't out box them in the

1350
01:06:58,547 --> 01:07:01,747
Speaker 22: rumble in the jungle, so you know, did the old

1351
01:07:02,027 --> 01:07:05,787
Speaker 22: rope it open? Basically George punched himself out and was

1352
01:07:06,507 --> 01:07:12,067
Speaker 22: hardly stand up, so Muhammad knocked him out. So if

1353
01:07:12,107 --> 01:07:14,987
Speaker 22: he hadn't punched them out, Yeah, it'd be interesting as

1354
01:07:15,027 --> 01:07:16,467
Speaker 22: to how the fight would have gone.

1355
01:07:16,547 --> 01:07:19,387
Speaker 2: And Grant good to have an old timer on remembering

1356
01:07:19,427 --> 01:07:22,507
Speaker 2: George Foreman. One more before we move, Patrick Hallo.

1357
01:07:23,227 --> 01:07:24,987
Speaker 23: Yeah, go Piney. How are you making very good?

1358
01:07:24,987 --> 01:07:26,027
Speaker 2: Patrick? Very good?

1359
01:07:26,427 --> 01:07:26,827
Speaker 7: Yeah? Good?

1360
01:07:26,947 --> 01:07:29,027
Speaker 23: Ring to tell you a bit of a quirky tale

1361
01:07:29,067 --> 01:07:32,587
Speaker 23: about George Foreman. I was in seventy fourth the Rumble

1362
01:07:32,627 --> 01:07:35,587
Speaker 23: in the Jungle. I was at menu we Wet Intermediate

1363
01:07:35,587 --> 01:07:38,627
Speaker 23: School in Auckland for those of you outside Orchland area,

1364
01:07:38,787 --> 01:07:41,107
Speaker 23: and school closed early for the day so could go

1365
01:07:41,147 --> 01:07:43,947
Speaker 23: home and watch the fight. Brilliant I think, yeah, I

1366
01:07:43,947 --> 01:07:46,747
Speaker 23: think we will let out about two or two thirty.

1367
01:07:46,907 --> 01:07:49,267
Speaker 23: So it was a nice fine day from what I remember.

1368
01:07:49,267 --> 01:07:51,547
Speaker 23: I went home, I closed the blinds and the lounge,

1369
01:07:51,587 --> 01:07:53,667
Speaker 23: put on the little black and white TV and sat

1370
01:07:53,707 --> 01:07:55,667
Speaker 23: in front of it and watched the fight. Because even then,

1371
01:07:55,667 --> 01:07:58,387
Speaker 23: I love my boxing as a twelve year old say yeah,

1372
01:07:58,427 --> 01:08:01,267
Speaker 23: and yeah, that's Derek Direk's always a hard act to

1373
01:08:01,267 --> 01:08:04,267
Speaker 23: follow with his knowledge of boxing and football. And yeah,

1374
01:08:04,307 --> 01:08:09,027
Speaker 23: he said, Arlie took it absolute pounding and then was

1375
01:08:09,067 --> 01:08:10,827
Speaker 23: able to finish form and off. It was just, yeah,

1376
01:08:10,827 --> 01:08:12,947
Speaker 23: it was just those are the days of boxing in

1377
01:08:12,947 --> 01:08:13,507
Speaker 23: my opinion.

1378
01:08:13,707 --> 01:08:16,187
Speaker 2: Yeah. And like Eddie Hearn said, Patrick, you know, we

1379
01:08:16,227 --> 01:08:18,827
Speaker 2: look back now, don't we, and we remember what has

1380
01:08:18,867 --> 01:08:21,747
Speaker 2: come before and who knows, you know, Rather than say, hey,

1381
01:08:21,787 --> 01:08:23,867
Speaker 2: will we ever reach those heights again, maybe we need

1382
01:08:23,867 --> 01:08:25,867
Speaker 2: to give it a bit of distance, you know, around

1383
01:08:25,867 --> 01:08:27,707
Speaker 2: what's happening now and look back. But yeah, it's hard

1384
01:08:27,747 --> 01:08:30,307
Speaker 2: to imagine that we'll have the days of Ali and

1385
01:08:30,387 --> 01:08:33,587
Speaker 2: Fraser and Foreman and others as well. Good to chat

1386
01:08:33,627 --> 01:08:36,467
Speaker 2: to Patrick, It's a pleasure to hear from you. Twenty

1387
01:08:36,507 --> 01:08:41,427
Speaker 2: three away from two James mcconey. Very shortly we can

1388
01:08:41,467 --> 01:08:45,747
Speaker 2: tho bring you some breaking news and some sad news

1389
01:08:46,507 --> 01:08:51,427
Speaker 2: that All Black Number six hundred and eighty eight Alex

1390
01:08:51,707 --> 01:08:57,947
Speaker 2: Wiley grizz Wiley has sadly passed away forty matches for

1391
01:08:58,067 --> 01:09:01,867
Speaker 2: New Zealand in total, including eleven test matches, and then

1392
01:09:01,907 --> 01:09:05,147
Speaker 2: of course went on to coach the All Blacks through

1393
01:09:05,267 --> 01:09:10,107
Speaker 2: an extremely success full era, including being part of the

1394
01:09:10,147 --> 01:09:16,067
Speaker 2: World Cup winning team of nineteen eighty seven. He and

1395
01:09:16,947 --> 01:09:19,667
Speaker 2: Brian Lahore and John Hart. The three of them together

1396
01:09:19,987 --> 01:09:22,107
Speaker 2: guided the All Blacks in nineteen eighty seven and then

1397
01:09:22,187 --> 01:09:25,587
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty eight gris Wiley became head coach and

1398
01:09:26,107 --> 01:09:29,107
Speaker 2: took the All Blacks through to the nineteen ninety one

1399
01:09:29,387 --> 01:09:32,067
Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup the back end of the nineties. Just

1400
01:09:32,107 --> 01:09:35,547
Speaker 2: a golden era of All Blacks rugby. But sad to

1401
01:09:35,587 --> 01:09:38,307
Speaker 2: report that news today that All Black number six hundred

1402
01:09:38,347 --> 01:09:42,787
Speaker 2: and eighty eight Alex Wiley, known almost universally as Grizz

1403
01:09:43,547 --> 01:09:46,307
Speaker 2: has passed away at the age of eighty. More to

1404
01:09:46,307 --> 01:09:48,667
Speaker 2: come this afternoon twenty two Away from Two News Talks

1405
01:09:48,707 --> 01:09:50,707
Speaker 2: EB the.

1406
01:09:50,547 --> 01:09:53,747
Speaker 1: Big Issues on and off the Fields Call Oh eight

1407
01:09:53,827 --> 01:09:56,787
Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty Weekends Ford with Jason.

1408
01:09:56,547 --> 01:09:57,627
Speaker 4: Fine and GJ.

1409
01:09:57,747 --> 01:10:00,907
Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's first trusted home Miilder.

1410
01:10:00,667 --> 01:10:03,507
Speaker 2: News Talks ed BB nineteen Away from Two, Just our

1411
01:10:03,547 --> 01:10:06,547
Speaker 2: final text on the life of George Foreman and the

1412
01:10:06,627 --> 01:10:09,307
Speaker 2: Rumble and the Jungle. Steve says Piney in nineteen seventy

1413
01:10:09,307 --> 01:10:11,107
Speaker 2: four for The Big Fight. I was ten years old.

1414
01:10:11,307 --> 01:10:13,307
Speaker 2: My mum came home from work to find half my

1415
01:10:13,467 --> 01:10:15,947
Speaker 2: class in our lounge. We were the first ones to

1416
01:10:16,027 --> 01:10:18,427
Speaker 2: have a color TV. I got a litle bit of

1417
01:10:18,427 --> 01:10:20,267
Speaker 2: trouble for that one. Got on your Steve, but your dad,

1418
01:10:20,267 --> 01:10:22,587
Speaker 2: But well worth it. I'm sure well worth it. I

1419
01:10:22,627 --> 01:10:25,707
Speaker 2: am sure just repeating the sad news we have just

1420
01:10:25,827 --> 01:10:28,947
Speaker 2: learned of former All Black and All Black's head coach

1421
01:10:29,227 --> 01:10:32,907
Speaker 2: Grizz Wiley. Alex Wiley has passed away over the overnight

1422
01:10:33,027 --> 01:10:35,947
Speaker 2: at the age of eighty. Let's get you to our

1423
01:10:36,067 --> 01:10:41,387
Speaker 2: regular Sunday catch up with James mcconey hello mate, good mate.

1424
01:10:41,427 --> 01:10:45,227
Speaker 9: That is really sad news. I really enjoyed Gris Wiley's

1425
01:10:45,267 --> 01:10:48,387
Speaker 9: company the times that I met him, and yeah, my

1426
01:10:49,107 --> 01:10:51,947
Speaker 9: thoughts and love go out to his family and friends.

1427
01:10:52,547 --> 01:10:55,587
Speaker 9: And the last time I saw me as playing bowls

1428
01:10:55,627 --> 01:10:58,627
Speaker 9: and it was live on. Actually he's representing his club

1429
01:10:59,267 --> 01:11:02,907
Speaker 9: down in Canterbury. But you must, I mean, the thing

1430
01:11:02,947 --> 01:11:05,787
Speaker 9: about Gres is he really was a pioneer in rugby.

1431
01:11:06,427 --> 01:11:10,507
Speaker 9: Think about the rivalry between Canterbury and Auckland with John

1432
01:11:10,587 --> 01:11:13,107
Speaker 9: Hart doing all the modern sort of fitness stuff with

1433
01:11:13,267 --> 01:11:16,667
Speaker 9: Jim Blair as Wiley was really doing it grassroots style

1434
01:11:16,707 --> 01:11:20,587
Speaker 9: with farmers on the hills and all that sort of thing,

1435
01:11:20,627 --> 01:11:23,627
Speaker 9: but trying to make that Canterbury team as fit as

1436
01:11:23,667 --> 01:11:27,347
Speaker 9: possible and as well drilled. And I stort of liking

1437
01:11:27,387 --> 01:11:29,787
Speaker 9: it too, you know Rocky like he was doing the

1438
01:11:29,867 --> 01:11:33,867
Speaker 9: Rocky version and Auckham was but the Ivan Drago, you know,

1439
01:11:33,907 --> 01:11:37,267
Speaker 9: the Dolph langren Hape. This movie reference lands with you.

1440
01:11:38,067 --> 01:11:40,947
Speaker 2: It has landed with me, well said Maydland. Yeah almost fitting.

1441
01:11:40,947 --> 01:11:45,547
Speaker 2: Actually that that last night the Crusaders, the evolution of

1442
01:11:45,707 --> 01:11:48,467
Speaker 2: the old Canterbury teams, went to Eden Park and gave

1443
01:11:48,507 --> 01:11:51,227
Speaker 2: them an absolute hiding the Blues. Did you watch that game?

1444
01:11:52,027 --> 01:11:54,827
Speaker 9: Yeah? I did, and look, it just shows that the

1445
01:11:54,827 --> 01:11:57,187
Speaker 9: Blues they're just not the same beasts this year, are

1446
01:11:57,187 --> 01:12:00,547
Speaker 9: they really? It's the game has sped up so they're

1447
01:12:00,587 --> 01:12:05,267
Speaker 9: big crash bash burn ball does not really work in

1448
01:12:05,547 --> 01:12:09,387
Speaker 9: the current climate of rugby what's happening. But there's there's

1449
01:12:09,427 --> 01:12:11,827
Speaker 9: just a malaise through the Blues and I think whether

1450
01:12:11,867 --> 01:12:15,307
Speaker 9: it's Caleb Clark with his pending court case over the

1451
01:12:15,347 --> 01:12:21,507
Speaker 9: motorcycle incident, you know, fleeing the scene allegedly from the police.

1452
01:12:21,547 --> 01:12:23,867
Speaker 9: Things like that I think can unsettle the team. I

1453
01:12:23,867 --> 01:12:27,907
Speaker 9: think even Bostin Tout clearly has been trying to leave

1454
01:12:28,507 --> 01:12:32,427
Speaker 9: New Zealand for the past six to eight months. And look,

1455
01:12:32,507 --> 01:12:37,387
Speaker 9: there's just other things I think contribute with injuries too,

1456
01:12:37,507 --> 01:12:41,787
Speaker 9: but they're just not the same team. And Canterbury or

1457
01:12:42,347 --> 01:12:45,427
Speaker 9: the Crusaders, I should say, if there were power rankings

1458
01:12:45,507 --> 01:12:48,427
Speaker 9: of the New Zealand teams on who's sort of in

1459
01:12:48,507 --> 01:12:50,347
Speaker 9: the ascendant, it's the number one.

1460
01:12:50,627 --> 01:12:54,507
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed they are and waking them up close last night, Yeah,

1461
01:12:54,547 --> 01:12:56,387
Speaker 2: I think everybody should be a little bit worried about

1462
01:12:56,427 --> 01:12:58,827
Speaker 2: what the Crusaders might do. And you know, you think

1463
01:12:58,827 --> 01:13:00,507
Speaker 2: about last year and the injuries they had in the

1464
01:13:00,547 --> 01:13:03,187
Speaker 2: players they didn't have, and even watching Will Jordan out

1465
01:13:03,227 --> 01:13:06,747
Speaker 2: there last night, Man, what a player, what what a

1466
01:13:06,827 --> 01:13:07,947
Speaker 2: player he is in could be?

1467
01:13:09,187 --> 01:13:13,107
Speaker 9: Yeah, Will Jordan has pretty much given any hope for

1468
01:13:13,307 --> 01:13:15,427
Speaker 9: a young and sparring fullbacks. They just have to put

1469
01:13:15,427 --> 01:13:18,027
Speaker 9: it on Pauds for the next five or six years

1470
01:13:18,067 --> 01:13:20,667
Speaker 9: because he looks like that's his position, that's where he

1471
01:13:20,707 --> 01:13:23,227
Speaker 9: wants to play. He's going to get that fifteenth Jersy

1472
01:13:23,307 --> 01:13:27,267
Speaker 9: with Razor as coach. So that's that's what we can

1473
01:13:27,267 --> 01:13:28,867
Speaker 9: see in the future for the All Blacks, but for

1474
01:13:29,387 --> 01:13:32,147
Speaker 9: the Crusaders, even the likes of Shafee Hackey. I mean

1475
01:13:32,227 --> 01:13:35,147
Speaker 9: we just saw Maka Springer score five tries for them

1476
01:13:35,227 --> 01:13:38,067
Speaker 9: last week and he reminds me of Damian Penno, you know,

1477
01:13:38,227 --> 01:13:41,147
Speaker 9: the French winger. And then you've got shafe Hackey comes

1478
01:13:41,227 --> 01:13:45,227
Speaker 9: in and he looks, you know, a tall, rangey, long

1479
01:13:45,307 --> 01:13:49,867
Speaker 9: striding winger. Therese are so many weapons and also great

1480
01:13:49,947 --> 01:13:53,947
Speaker 9: to see David HAVELI look, he's just bossing the team around.

1481
01:13:54,787 --> 01:13:56,667
Speaker 9: The Captaincy really agrees.

1482
01:13:56,347 --> 01:13:58,507
Speaker 2: With him one hundred percent. He was the other one

1483
01:13:58,587 --> 01:14:01,027
Speaker 2: last night. I thought, man, he's just he's just a

1484
01:14:01,147 --> 01:14:02,907
Speaker 2: force of nature there and just the glue in the

1485
01:14:02,987 --> 01:14:04,747
Speaker 2: back line, you know some of who you know inside

1486
01:14:04,827 --> 01:14:08,427
Speaker 2: him to camera and and you know Cayle Preston young,

1487
01:14:08,787 --> 01:14:11,587
Speaker 2: you know, really young and super rugby terms. He's got

1488
01:14:11,667 --> 01:14:13,707
Speaker 2: his mates Jordan and Rees out side. Then I have

1489
01:14:13,787 --> 01:14:15,947
Speaker 2: rely's the glue in there. Just a while we're on

1490
01:14:15,987 --> 01:14:18,867
Speaker 2: Super Rugby. I thought the Heglanders might beat the Reds.

1491
01:14:18,907 --> 01:14:19,467
Speaker 2: But they didn't.

1492
01:14:20,667 --> 01:14:22,267
Speaker 9: No, they didn't. And this is the one thing that

1493
01:14:22,347 --> 01:14:24,387
Speaker 9: we can say about the competition and the one swilling

1494
01:14:24,427 --> 01:14:28,147
Speaker 9: point for Super Rugby this year is anybody can beat anybody.

1495
01:14:28,427 --> 01:14:32,827
Speaker 9: It's as a really compelling competition, and I think the

1496
01:14:32,907 --> 01:14:37,227
Speaker 9: style of play is great. I mean we didn't see

1497
01:14:38,347 --> 01:14:40,747
Speaker 9: I thought we're going to see another Caleb Tangatao try,

1498
01:14:40,867 --> 01:14:44,107
Speaker 9: but someone like him now with the game sped up

1499
01:14:44,147 --> 01:14:47,267
Speaker 9: and the gaps opening up, we wouldn't have even been

1500
01:14:47,307 --> 01:14:50,427
Speaker 9: mentioning his name a year ago. So I really feel

1501
01:14:50,467 --> 01:14:52,867
Speaker 9: that the Highlanders are on the right track with what

1502
01:14:53,027 --> 01:14:57,267
Speaker 9: they're doing. But I think they were probably they may

1503
01:14:57,347 --> 01:15:01,427
Speaker 9: have overthought things by moving their probably their star up

1504
01:15:01,507 --> 01:15:04,907
Speaker 9: to date. Tather Cover Nawai out to the wing. I'd say,

1505
01:15:05,547 --> 01:15:07,907
Speaker 9: I mean he's co tapped and I'd say, you say

1506
01:15:07,947 --> 01:15:10,267
Speaker 9: to him, what position do you want to play mate?

1507
01:15:10,347 --> 01:15:12,307
Speaker 9: And he probably should have just stayed at twelve.

1508
01:15:12,627 --> 01:15:15,707
Speaker 2: I agree. Again, we're in passionate agreement today.

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01:15:15,707 --> 01:15:15,827
Speaker 21: Out.

1510
01:15:15,827 --> 01:15:19,827
Speaker 2: Well, let's see if we can find something to disagree on. Well,

1511
01:15:20,147 --> 01:15:22,987
Speaker 2: if we stayed with Super Rugby, were the Chiefs lucky?

1512
01:15:23,867 --> 01:15:27,027
Speaker 2: They were forty three seven ahead a half time and

1513
01:15:27,147 --> 01:15:29,307
Speaker 2: only ended up winning, you know, much more narrowly than that.

1514
01:15:29,387 --> 01:15:31,107
Speaker 2: I think the Miner Pacific I got with an eight.

1515
01:15:31,307 --> 01:15:32,107
Speaker 2: Were the Chiefs lucky?

1516
01:15:32,427 --> 01:15:35,867
Speaker 9: Or no, what's you? We're all on using cliches on

1517
01:15:35,987 --> 01:15:36,907
Speaker 9: this show time.

1518
01:15:38,187 --> 01:15:39,467
Speaker 2: I'm all for them, bring them on.

1519
01:15:40,347 --> 01:15:42,227
Speaker 9: Okay, it was a game of two hards go on

1520
01:15:44,987 --> 01:15:47,587
Speaker 9: and by the way, that show has been revived. It's

1521
01:15:47,627 --> 01:15:51,507
Speaker 9: on Sky Open Thursday nights at at pm. But the

1522
01:15:52,027 --> 01:15:55,507
Speaker 9: thing is that the Chiefs should be worried by that

1523
01:15:55,827 --> 01:16:00,507
Speaker 9: because they they were rumbled in the second half. The

1524
01:16:00,907 --> 01:16:04,387
Speaker 9: Moana looked superb in their comeback and they should have

1525
01:16:04,387 --> 01:16:07,987
Speaker 9: put that game away the Chiefs. But hey, it's interesting

1526
01:16:08,107 --> 01:16:12,187
Speaker 9: sometimes when you see teams on attack, they look like

1527
01:16:12,307 --> 01:16:15,827
Speaker 9: completely different beasts. But I would say that Damien McKenzie

1528
01:16:15,907 --> 01:16:18,227
Speaker 9: has stepped it up a not this year. He's putting

1529
01:16:18,267 --> 01:16:20,547
Speaker 9: his hand up for Razor. He wants that team jersey.

1530
01:16:20,907 --> 01:16:23,307
Speaker 9: He's going to try and make Razor stop dreaming about

1531
01:16:23,387 --> 01:16:25,147
Speaker 9: Richie m Wonner, which will be tough and it.

1532
01:16:25,147 --> 01:16:27,827
Speaker 2: Will be yeah, because those dreams are frequent and ongoing.

1533
01:16:27,907 --> 01:16:31,987
Speaker 2: I'm sure in the mind of Scott Robertson, Hey cliches,

1534
01:16:32,547 --> 01:16:35,907
Speaker 2: our year is a cliche. Our year, back to back

1535
01:16:35,947 --> 01:16:38,987
Speaker 2: wins over the Sea Eagles and the Roosters for the Warriors,

1536
01:16:39,107 --> 01:16:41,907
Speaker 2: our year, it does.

1537
01:16:41,907 --> 01:16:43,827
Speaker 9: Feel like our year. Now I didn't think it was

1538
01:16:43,947 --> 01:16:48,107
Speaker 9: our year, but this does seem Is it a mirage

1539
01:16:48,187 --> 01:16:51,227
Speaker 9: because it could be our year? But really it's probably

1540
01:16:51,587 --> 01:16:56,107
Speaker 9: a massive transitional, turning point year for the Warriors because

1541
01:16:56,347 --> 01:16:59,427
Speaker 9: I think on your show, even more than a year ago,

1542
01:16:59,427 --> 01:17:02,947
Speaker 9: I was talking about Ali Lataua, just hoping that he

1543
01:17:03,067 --> 01:17:04,907
Speaker 9: was going to be the X factor in the back line,

1544
01:17:05,307 --> 01:17:07,987
Speaker 9: and it's taken him awhile to develop. You know, it's

1545
01:17:08,307 --> 01:17:11,827
Speaker 9: frustrating when you're a Warriors fan watching teenagers like Bradman

1546
01:17:11,947 --> 01:17:15,547
Speaker 9: Best or whoever else. Bronson Terry were his on drugs,

1547
01:17:15,587 --> 01:17:20,307
Speaker 9: but you know other teenagers Lucky Galvin succeed for other

1548
01:17:20,387 --> 01:17:22,547
Speaker 9: clubs and you're going, we've got one too, And he's

1549
01:17:22,587 --> 01:17:25,107
Speaker 9: getting into his early twenties. Now, when is he ready? Well,

1550
01:17:25,427 --> 01:17:30,347
Speaker 9: Aniela La Tawer is ready as a genuine X Factor center.

1551
01:17:30,467 --> 01:17:34,147
Speaker 9: So that's great news. And you know we need a

1552
01:17:34,187 --> 01:17:37,907
Speaker 9: couple of superstars because that's what the game requires if

1553
01:17:37,907 --> 01:17:40,747
Speaker 9: you look at those big games. But you've got to

1554
01:17:40,747 --> 01:17:43,827
Speaker 9: say Webby Webster is one of the best organizers and

1555
01:17:43,987 --> 01:17:47,027
Speaker 9: he's got them so well drilled that there's a lot

1556
01:17:47,107 --> 01:17:48,747
Speaker 9: to like about the Wars and the way they go

1557
01:17:48,787 --> 01:17:49,467
Speaker 9: about their business.

1558
01:17:49,587 --> 01:17:53,227
Speaker 2: Absolutely, roll on the Tigers a week today over in Australia.

1559
01:17:53,507 --> 01:17:54,947
Speaker 2: A couple of other matters. I want to get your

1560
01:17:54,947 --> 01:17:57,907
Speaker 2: thoughts on Sam Ruth. Where had Nick Willis and Sam's

1561
01:17:57,987 --> 01:18:00,907
Speaker 2: dad Ben Ruth on the show yesterday. This is quite

1562
01:18:00,947 --> 01:18:03,747
Speaker 2: incredible what this very young kid is doing.

1563
01:18:05,227 --> 01:18:09,787
Speaker 9: This is massive. You know, his races go viral. Everybody

1564
01:18:09,907 --> 01:18:13,427
Speaker 9: knows his name Sam Ruth around in the athletics world,

1565
01:18:13,987 --> 01:18:16,467
Speaker 9: just in social media. But what it's done as well

1566
01:18:16,587 --> 01:18:19,107
Speaker 9: is I feel like athletics is on the rise. There's

1567
01:18:19,147 --> 01:18:23,227
Speaker 9: a renaissance in New Zealand athletics. You can see even

1568
01:18:23,307 --> 01:18:26,587
Speaker 9: with Hamish to Zoe Hobbes, all the people who are

1569
01:18:26,627 --> 01:18:29,907
Speaker 9: sort of starting to excel in the events other than

1570
01:18:30,067 --> 01:18:32,747
Speaker 9: just the throwing. And I mean, let's be honest, shot

1571
01:18:32,787 --> 01:18:36,147
Speaker 9: put tept this on the map. But it's great to

1572
01:18:36,227 --> 01:18:38,947
Speaker 9: see what's happening now in nick Willison as well, of course,

1573
01:18:39,547 --> 01:18:43,227
Speaker 9: but if you look at athletics, what the biggest resurgent

1574
01:18:43,427 --> 01:18:46,707
Speaker 9: is also with run clubs. I mean, if you're not

1575
01:18:46,827 --> 01:18:49,147
Speaker 9: on Tinder, you're going to a run club, right. It's

1576
01:18:49,187 --> 01:18:53,067
Speaker 9: a way to meet people and it's bigger now as

1577
01:18:53,107 --> 01:18:55,667
Speaker 9: a social sport then I don't know, you think about

1578
01:18:55,667 --> 01:18:58,307
Speaker 9: the things that we've played piny seven of side soccer

1579
01:18:58,747 --> 01:19:01,267
Speaker 9: touch you know, run clubs are massive, and I think

1580
01:19:01,347 --> 01:19:04,387
Speaker 9: athletics if you got someone like Sam Ruth as your

1581
01:19:04,427 --> 01:19:07,827
Speaker 9: pin up boy and the kids wanting to normally look

1582
01:19:07,947 --> 01:19:09,787
Speaker 9: up like you and I locked up to John Walker,

1583
01:19:10,107 --> 01:19:11,947
Speaker 9: well the kids are looking up to someone who's their

1584
01:19:12,027 --> 01:19:13,747
Speaker 9: own age, which is amazing.

1585
01:19:13,867 --> 01:19:15,747
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I saw you there the other night. You were

1586
01:19:15,787 --> 01:19:18,907
Speaker 2: there watching him do that. I become the youngest ever

1587
01:19:19,427 --> 01:19:23,427
Speaker 2: sub formulut minor. Did I see your impressive form there

1588
01:19:23,467 --> 01:19:25,547
Speaker 2: as well? Or did Was I mistaken?

1589
01:19:26,227 --> 01:19:27,227
Speaker 9: And that was me there?

1590
01:19:27,307 --> 01:19:27,467
Speaker 16: Yes?

1591
01:19:27,547 --> 01:19:29,667
Speaker 9: I was blocking out a bit of the floodlight.

1592
01:19:29,787 --> 01:19:31,027
Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all.

1593
01:19:31,827 --> 01:19:34,547
Speaker 9: We had our youth reporters working for Crago as Wild

1594
01:19:34,587 --> 01:19:37,507
Speaker 9: and they did a sterling job Jewel and Sofia. Because

1595
01:19:37,507 --> 01:19:40,107
Speaker 9: we thought, well it's a youth story and it's big,

1596
01:19:40,227 --> 01:19:42,947
Speaker 9: so can we can we talk to our youth affairs desk.

1597
01:19:43,027 --> 01:19:45,067
Speaker 9: We didn't have one, so we created one and they

1598
01:19:45,107 --> 01:19:46,547
Speaker 9: did a great job for Crago as well.

1599
01:19:46,787 --> 01:19:49,027
Speaker 2: Fantastic. Just before you go, will I see you at

1600
01:19:49,147 --> 01:19:52,107
Speaker 2: Eden Park tomorrow night for the All Whites final push

1601
01:19:52,187 --> 01:19:53,227
Speaker 2: to the World Cup Next year?

1602
01:19:54,027 --> 01:19:56,627
Speaker 9: You will piney the atmosphere won't be as good as

1603
01:19:56,667 --> 01:19:59,867
Speaker 9: two thousand and nine at the Canton, which still remains

1604
01:19:59,907 --> 01:20:02,587
Speaker 9: probably the best atmosphere of any New Zealand sporting event

1605
01:20:02,667 --> 01:20:03,187
Speaker 9: I've been at.

1606
01:20:03,307 --> 01:20:07,267
Speaker 2: For you as well, I'm so excited I turned my

1607
01:20:07,347 --> 01:20:09,867
Speaker 2: mic off instead of on. Yes is the answer? Yes

1608
01:20:10,027 --> 01:20:10,627
Speaker 2: is the answer?

1609
01:20:11,267 --> 01:20:13,227
Speaker 9: Well, that's the thing, and the one thing that it

1610
01:20:13,307 --> 01:20:14,867
Speaker 9: cites me as well as a fan is this is

1611
01:20:14,947 --> 01:20:17,507
Speaker 9: the first time since I was a kid, since ninety

1612
01:20:17,507 --> 01:20:20,347
Speaker 9: eighty one eighty two, but I can actually name the

1613
01:20:20,467 --> 01:20:23,187
Speaker 9: All Whites team, the starting lineup. I sort of had

1614
01:20:23,547 --> 01:20:27,427
Speaker 9: a stab at it before they arrived. They got in't

1615
01:20:27,467 --> 01:20:30,027
Speaker 9: camped and I pretty much got all the outfielders. I

1616
01:20:30,147 --> 01:20:33,147
Speaker 9: just didn't get Max Croku. I thought that maybe they

1617
01:20:33,227 --> 01:20:35,987
Speaker 9: might have given pulse in the nod but hey, when

1618
01:20:36,147 --> 01:20:37,947
Speaker 9: we had an all whites team that you could nail

1619
01:20:38,067 --> 01:20:42,107
Speaker 9: down an eleven, this is a great side. I know,

1620
01:20:42,427 --> 01:20:44,747
Speaker 9: I'm hoping that they'd get through, but I think if

1621
01:20:44,747 --> 01:20:47,147
Speaker 9: they can, they might be able to sneak out of

1622
01:20:47,187 --> 01:20:48,107
Speaker 9: the group in the World Cup.

1623
01:20:48,307 --> 01:20:51,627
Speaker 2: I think that is absolutely achievable for them. And you're

1624
01:20:51,707 --> 01:20:54,147
Speaker 2: right about the team. Darren basically seems to have landed

1625
01:20:54,187 --> 01:20:57,027
Speaker 2: on his eleven. Going to chat to him next hour,

1626
01:20:57,027 --> 01:20:58,667
Speaker 2: I actually find out if there have been any injuries.

1627
01:20:58,707 --> 01:21:02,027
Speaker 2: But if there weren't any players who you know, didn't

1628
01:21:02,067 --> 01:21:03,307
Speaker 2: come through the other night, I think it'll be the

1629
01:21:03,347 --> 01:21:06,307
Speaker 2: same eleven tomorrow night, and that would probably be fair enough.

1630
01:21:06,427 --> 01:21:09,027
Speaker 2: They say, you don't change your winning team, and I

1631
01:21:09,067 --> 01:21:11,067
Speaker 2: don't think he will if everybody's at his disposal. And

1632
01:21:11,107 --> 01:21:12,587
Speaker 2: you're so right, James. You know, next year at the

1633
01:21:12,587 --> 01:21:15,387
Speaker 2: World Cup, let's say let's say they get there, you know,

1634
01:21:15,547 --> 01:21:17,827
Speaker 2: an expanded competition. This is the kind of team that

1635
01:21:17,907 --> 01:21:20,307
Speaker 2: could get out of a group well.

1636
01:21:20,867 --> 01:21:22,707
Speaker 9: I hope so, but I mean you and I will

1637
01:21:22,707 --> 01:21:25,027
Speaker 9: be top on tailing. I guess when we're there, so

1638
01:21:25,787 --> 01:21:27,587
Speaker 9: you know, well.

1639
01:21:27,507 --> 01:21:29,627
Speaker 2: I'll be hearing from New Caledonia then, and now.

1640
01:21:32,187 --> 01:21:33,547
Speaker 9: Come on, I'm looking forth to it.

1641
01:21:36,667 --> 01:21:39,667
Speaker 2: Al rval Anyway, let's see what happens tomorrow night and

1642
01:21:39,747 --> 01:21:42,987
Speaker 2: then we can work out accommodation arrangements and that sort

1643
01:21:42,987 --> 01:21:43,947
Speaker 2: of thing. Will that be okay?

1644
01:21:44,787 --> 01:21:47,827
Speaker 9: Fair enough? Yeah, but I think that's on the cards definitely,

1645
01:21:47,947 --> 01:21:48,747
Speaker 9: So get used to it.

1646
01:21:48,907 --> 01:21:51,467
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you, James, I appreciate it. I will

1647
01:21:51,947 --> 01:21:54,307
Speaker 2: start to get my head around that particular concept in

1648
01:21:54,347 --> 01:21:57,547
Speaker 2: the next little while. James mcconey huge part of our Sundays.

1649
01:21:57,587 --> 01:22:00,627
Speaker 2: Catch him on the Altimative Commentary Collective Crowd goes Wild

1650
01:22:00,667 --> 01:22:04,227
Speaker 2: across your social media platforms as well. Seven to two

1651
01:22:04,307 --> 01:22:04,987
Speaker 2: News talks.

1652
01:22:06,467 --> 01:22:11,347
Speaker 1: Down the Hail Mary's and the Epic Fails Weekend Sport

1653
01:22:11,587 --> 01:22:14,627
Speaker 1: with Jason Vime News Talk ZENB four to.

1654
01:22:14,667 --> 01:22:17,107
Speaker 2: Two on News Talk NB after two o'clock on Weekend Sport,

1655
01:22:17,147 --> 01:22:19,627
Speaker 2: We're going to pay tribute to Alex Wiley Gris Wiley,

1656
01:22:19,707 --> 01:22:22,667
Speaker 2: who has passed away in the last twenty four hours.

1657
01:22:23,187 --> 01:22:26,507
Speaker 2: All Black number six eighty eight eleven Tests and forty

1658
01:22:26,547 --> 01:22:28,107
Speaker 2: matches for the All Blacks and then one of their

1659
01:22:28,187 --> 01:22:30,827
Speaker 2: most successful head coaches at the back end of the

1660
01:22:30,867 --> 01:22:32,827
Speaker 2: eighties taking the All Black cell or involved in the

1661
01:22:32,867 --> 01:22:35,227
Speaker 2: coaching group anyway at the nineteen eighty seven and then

1662
01:22:35,267 --> 01:22:37,867
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety nine and ninety one Rugby World Cups,

1663
01:22:38,187 --> 01:22:41,667
Speaker 2: passing away overnight at the age of eighty. John macbeth,

1664
01:22:42,027 --> 01:22:45,347
Speaker 2: legendary rugby commentator, going to pay tribute to Alex Wiley

1665
01:22:45,427 --> 01:22:48,867
Speaker 2: for us after two o'clock and how does a ground

1666
01:22:48,987 --> 01:22:51,467
Speaker 2: host three different sports and one weekend?

1667
01:22:51,667 --> 01:22:55,787
Speaker 4: We'll find out the only place for the big names,

1668
01:22:56,387 --> 01:23:02,227
Speaker 4: the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations.

1669
01:23:02,547 --> 01:23:05,947
Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vime on your

1670
01:23:06,027 --> 01:23:08,027
Speaker 1: Hoe of Sport News Talks.

1671
01:23:08,067 --> 01:23:11,667
Speaker 2: It'd be seven past two. Welcome in. This is Weekend

1672
01:23:11,707 --> 01:23:14,627
Speaker 2: Sport until three. I'm Jason Pine and McDonald's show producer.

1673
01:23:16,147 --> 01:23:20,507
Speaker 2: Chris Wiley MBE has passed away Sad News in the

1674
01:23:20,587 --> 01:23:25,547
Speaker 2: last few hours. We're going to pay tribute to Chris

1675
01:23:25,627 --> 01:23:30,307
Speaker 2: Wiley shortly with John macbeth. Blair Christiansen, turf manager at

1676
01:23:30,427 --> 01:23:32,947
Speaker 2: Eden Park. How do you get your grass ready for cricket?

1677
01:23:33,347 --> 01:23:35,907
Speaker 2: Then rugby, then football in the space of eighty hours.

1678
01:23:36,427 --> 01:23:38,227
Speaker 2: Going to find out we're inside the All Whites camp

1679
01:23:38,747 --> 01:23:41,427
Speaker 2: and our top female rally driver, Emma Gilmore is also

1680
01:23:41,507 --> 01:23:44,107
Speaker 2: on the show with us this hour. But as we

1681
01:23:44,187 --> 01:23:46,507
Speaker 2: always do it around about this time, seven past two

1682
01:23:46,627 --> 01:23:48,427
Speaker 2: is the time let's catch you up on some of

1683
01:23:48,427 --> 01:23:50,467
Speaker 2: the stuff you might have missed over the last little while.

1684
01:23:50,987 --> 01:23:53,507
Speaker 2: We call it in case you missed it, covering off

1685
01:23:53,507 --> 01:23:56,467
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of things that might perhaps not have

1686
01:23:57,107 --> 01:24:00,387
Speaker 2: entered your consciousness yet. In the Nral, the Sharks have

1687
01:24:00,467 --> 01:24:03,907
Speaker 2: dominated the rabbit o's on the back of some enterprising play.

1688
01:24:06,427 --> 01:24:10,787
Speaker 13: Hero begins rother Lalla, sweets him, leaves the color.

1689
01:24:10,587 --> 01:24:12,467
Speaker 7: Of keepy Kennedy is there?

1690
01:24:12,987 --> 01:24:14,147
Speaker 18: Who I need him?

1691
01:24:15,187 --> 01:24:18,227
Speaker 2: Want to try putting late tests.

1692
01:24:18,467 --> 01:24:22,587
Speaker 7: Can't get the kail Hero. It begin with Walla Tello.

1693
01:24:22,787 --> 01:24:26,627
Speaker 2: And the Sharks go past to twenty seven to twelve,

1694
01:24:26,707 --> 01:24:29,267
Speaker 2: the final score the Tigers, meantime going to from two.

1695
01:24:29,627 --> 01:24:30,587
Speaker 2: Well the lover was.

1696
01:24:30,667 --> 01:24:36,867
Speaker 13: Back Coras Out goes himself do it scares the day clipsic.

1697
01:24:36,627 --> 01:24:38,427
Speaker 2: Try happy chorus.

1698
01:24:38,507 --> 01:24:43,147
Speaker 13: Out has taken over this contest and the Tigers knocking

1699
01:24:43,267 --> 01:24:45,427
Speaker 13: on the door of a second straight.

1700
01:24:45,267 --> 01:24:48,187
Speaker 2: Pictory which they achieved thirty eighteen over the Dolphins and

1701
01:24:48,307 --> 01:24:52,307
Speaker 2: the Titans, extending the Knight's Gold Coast drought with a

1702
01:24:52,387 --> 01:24:55,707
Speaker 2: twenty six to six win. I bought underviz ud short thing.

1703
01:24:56,027 --> 01:24:58,667
Speaker 4: He's after the Feto taxa.

1704
01:24:58,587 --> 01:25:06,627
Speaker 13: For the titles, Dave, the Theata, the Blue Hell hout

1705
01:25:06,707 --> 01:25:07,347
Speaker 13: of the scratch.

1706
01:25:07,867 --> 01:25:09,707
Speaker 2: The Knights haven't won on the Gold Coast now for

1707
01:25:09,867 --> 01:25:13,667
Speaker 2: over a decade to I League Football. Another tough loss

1708
01:25:13,707 --> 01:25:15,267
Speaker 2: for the Phoenix woman this week in.

1709
01:25:15,267 --> 01:25:18,107
Speaker 19: The competition and they cut a second well out. Couldn't

1710
01:25:18,227 --> 01:25:22,107
Speaker 19: keep that one out. This is a lovely strike from Gomez.

1711
01:25:22,227 --> 01:25:24,587
Speaker 19: Is it on the edge of the area and the

1712
01:25:24,747 --> 01:25:28,947
Speaker 19: Mariners have another sucker punch for the Phoenix.

1713
01:25:28,827 --> 01:25:31,987
Speaker 2: Tunil to the Central Coast Mariners. The Phoenix's playoff chance

1714
01:25:32,147 --> 01:25:35,147
Speaker 2: is now slipping away and a super rugbat. The Reids

1715
01:25:35,187 --> 01:25:37,427
Speaker 2: continuing their good form with a win over the Highlanders.

1716
01:25:37,587 --> 01:25:40,347
Speaker 24: It runs a crossfield, having a go unto the halfway

1717
01:25:40,507 --> 01:25:43,507
Speaker 24: found to get back inside the Harry Wilson chip and chase.

1718
01:25:43,667 --> 01:25:46,827
Speaker 2: Now the scramble's on. Ascot back there and the Reds.

1719
01:25:46,787 --> 01:25:48,987
Speaker 24: Roll over the top and getting the ball half a

1720
01:25:49,067 --> 01:25:49,707
Speaker 24: meter short.

1721
01:25:50,227 --> 01:25:52,107
Speaker 13: So the Carla water on the gaving look for a

1722
01:25:52,227 --> 01:25:55,227
Speaker 13: try and I'll have another go and they get the try.

1723
01:25:55,707 --> 01:25:58,707
Speaker 2: Try is scored and an upset. When in Sydney as

1724
01:25:58,747 --> 01:26:00,187
Speaker 2: the Warriors, Hayes beat the brumby.

1725
01:25:59,907 --> 01:26:02,787
Speaker 20: So I said wife for Georgy said Georgianson puts it

1726
01:26:02,867 --> 01:26:06,027
Speaker 20: in behind Toston toes it the head come it through it.

1727
01:26:11,587 --> 01:26:16,907
Speaker 2: He's cut the tried trying to get stuff from you.

1728
01:26:17,347 --> 01:26:21,027
Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World

1729
01:26:21,187 --> 01:26:23,947
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason five Call.

1730
01:26:25,467 --> 01:26:29,547
Speaker 2: News Talks MB ten past two. As we've been reporting

1731
01:26:29,587 --> 01:26:31,907
Speaker 2: in the last half hour or so, former All Black

1732
01:26:32,067 --> 01:26:35,547
Speaker 2: and All Black's head coach Gris Wiley has passed away

1733
01:26:35,547 --> 01:26:36,387
Speaker 2: at the age of eighty.

1734
01:26:37,507 --> 01:26:38,907
Speaker 4: Now cans even get this.

1735
01:26:39,027 --> 01:26:41,467
Speaker 13: The Carlin's all up at the ball comes this way

1736
01:26:41,507 --> 01:26:43,667
Speaker 13: and that, But I said, Burgers can get there.

1737
01:26:43,907 --> 01:26:46,467
Speaker 2: Sinceidn't you kiss Alex Wade.

1738
01:26:53,147 --> 01:26:54,747
Speaker 18: Well, a Caunterbree captain.

1739
01:26:56,587 --> 01:26:59,787
Speaker 1: Up there at the precise moment to check what was

1740
01:27:00,067 --> 01:27:01,187
Speaker 1: a precision pass.

1741
01:27:01,467 --> 01:27:04,147
Speaker 2: Alex Wiley played forty times for the All Blacks, including

1742
01:27:04,227 --> 01:27:08,227
Speaker 2: eleven Test matches, over two hundred phearances for Canterbury, including

1743
01:27:08,307 --> 01:27:11,067
Speaker 2: more than a century of games as captain. He was

1744
01:27:11,107 --> 01:27:12,987
Speaker 2: part of the side that won the Randfurlly Shield in

1745
01:27:13,067 --> 01:27:16,507
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine and nineteen seventy two, and captained his

1746
01:27:16,627 --> 01:27:19,747
Speaker 2: province to wins over England, Scotland and Ireland on their

1747
01:27:19,867 --> 01:27:22,587
Speaker 2: tours to New Zealand. He moved into coaching the Red

1748
01:27:22,627 --> 01:27:25,347
Speaker 2: and Blacks in nineteen eighty two and led Canterbury to

1749
01:27:25,347 --> 01:27:28,707
Speaker 2: the rand Philly Shield that year, successfully defending New Zealand

1750
01:27:28,787 --> 01:27:32,227
Speaker 2: rugby's most prestigious prize for a record equalling at that

1751
01:27:32,387 --> 01:27:35,427
Speaker 2: time three years, as well as the NPC title in

1752
01:27:35,507 --> 01:27:38,387
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three, and went over the touring British and

1753
01:27:38,547 --> 01:27:41,827
Speaker 2: Irish Lions that same year, stepping up to the All Blacks.

1754
01:27:41,947 --> 01:27:45,507
Speaker 2: Griswiley was an assistant to Sir Brian Lahore for New

1755
01:27:45,587 --> 01:27:49,187
Speaker 2: Zealand's nineteen eighty seven Rugby World Cup victory and succeeded

1756
01:27:49,267 --> 01:27:52,347
Speaker 2: him as head coach one year later. Alex Whiley coached

1757
01:27:52,347 --> 01:27:55,387
Speaker 2: the All Blacks for sixty four matches fifty eight wins,

1758
01:27:55,787 --> 01:27:58,787
Speaker 2: five losses and a draw between nineteen eighty eight and

1759
01:27:58,947 --> 01:28:02,267
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one, a success rate of ninety one percent.

1760
01:28:02,587 --> 01:28:05,947
Speaker 2: Of those matches, twenty nine were tests, twenty five wins,

1761
01:28:05,947 --> 01:28:08,987
Speaker 2: three lane and a drawer a win percentage in test

1762
01:28:09,067 --> 01:28:12,587
Speaker 2: matches of eighty six point two percent. Of all the

1763
01:28:12,667 --> 01:28:15,667
Speaker 2: coaches to lead the All Blacks on more than ten occasions,

1764
01:28:16,067 --> 01:28:19,227
Speaker 2: only Fred Allen and Sir Steve Hanson boast a greater

1765
01:28:19,307 --> 01:28:23,707
Speaker 2: winning percentage than Griswiley. He also led Argentina to their

1766
01:28:23,787 --> 01:28:26,987
Speaker 2: first World Cup quarterfinal in nineteen ninety nine and returned

1767
01:28:27,027 --> 01:28:30,387
Speaker 2: home to coach Marlborough and North Canterbury and away from rugby,

1768
01:28:30,867 --> 01:28:34,987
Speaker 2: gris Wiley also represented Canterbury in lawn bowls during his

1769
01:28:35,187 --> 01:28:39,187
Speaker 2: later years. Griswiley was eighty. Let's bring in one of

1770
01:28:39,227 --> 01:28:42,627
Speaker 2: our foremost rugby commentators, John macbeth. John, thanks for joining

1771
01:28:42,707 --> 01:28:45,827
Speaker 2: us at short notice. Let's start with gris Wiley the player.

1772
01:28:46,107 --> 01:28:49,027
Speaker 2: What do you remember about gris Wiley as a player.

1773
01:28:50,347 --> 01:28:52,947
Speaker 11: As a player, I always thought to myself, I'm pleased

1774
01:28:52,987 --> 01:28:56,187
Speaker 11: I'm not playing against them. You know, he was so

1775
01:28:56,467 --> 01:28:58,947
Speaker 11: hard and there are so many stories about him, Jason,

1776
01:28:59,027 --> 01:29:02,747
Speaker 11: about the fact that he was physical, he didn't take

1777
01:29:02,787 --> 01:29:06,067
Speaker 11: a backward step. There's many an inside back in New

1778
01:29:06,147 --> 01:29:09,067
Speaker 11: zeal All who were playing their early games and representative

1779
01:29:09,147 --> 01:29:12,067
Speaker 11: player and they came up against Alex White, Alec Whitley,

1780
01:29:12,147 --> 01:29:16,267
Speaker 11: and they just knew that they'd come off remembering that

1781
01:29:16,427 --> 01:29:18,827
Speaker 11: for all the wrong reasons. He was a tough player.

1782
01:29:19,227 --> 01:29:22,987
Speaker 11: He was really rugged of that Canterbury mold. He played

1783
01:29:23,027 --> 01:29:26,747
Speaker 11: in the Canterbury teams which were renowned for being hard

1784
01:29:26,947 --> 01:29:31,267
Speaker 11: forward players. The backs got the ball occasionally. So it

1785
01:29:31,427 --> 01:29:35,507
Speaker 11: always surprised many people when he became a coach that

1786
01:29:35,627 --> 01:29:40,227
Speaker 11: he encouraged and developed such wonderful back play within the

1787
01:29:40,347 --> 01:29:41,187
Speaker 11: Canterbury team.

1788
01:29:41,307 --> 01:29:43,147
Speaker 2: When he was a player and then went on to

1789
01:29:43,187 --> 01:29:46,467
Speaker 2: become a coach. You talked about as coaching philosophy, John,

1790
01:29:46,507 --> 01:29:48,667
Speaker 2: But but when he became a coach, was did that

1791
01:29:48,827 --> 01:29:51,667
Speaker 2: seem to you like a like a natural progression? Did

1792
01:29:51,707 --> 01:29:53,867
Speaker 2: he always seem like he would go into coaching.

1793
01:29:55,307 --> 01:29:58,747
Speaker 11: I was always surprised about that, because you know, he

1794
01:29:58,907 --> 01:30:01,187
Speaker 11: was busy man on the farm and things, and they'd

1795
01:30:01,227 --> 01:30:04,787
Speaker 11: played two hundred plus games for Canterbury. He'd spent so

1796
01:30:04,907 --> 01:30:07,547
Speaker 11: much time with Rugg and he took a bit of

1797
01:30:07,627 --> 01:30:10,107
Speaker 11: time out. But then he immediately got back well, I

1798
01:30:10,227 --> 01:30:13,947
Speaker 11: soon got back into his Glenmark club and then his

1799
01:30:14,507 --> 01:30:18,467
Speaker 11: immediate success I think just inspired him to go a

1800
01:30:18,507 --> 01:30:22,267
Speaker 11: bit further, and goodness me, what a great start he

1801
01:30:22,387 --> 01:30:24,347
Speaker 11: had to his coaching career, you know, winning the ram

1802
01:30:24,427 --> 01:30:28,707
Speaker 11: Thury Shield then Cannoby held it for a record equating

1803
01:30:28,827 --> 01:30:34,307
Speaker 11: number of defenses. So alt Wiley from rough hard player

1804
01:30:34,387 --> 01:30:37,307
Speaker 11: who only made a dozen I think appearances for the

1805
01:30:37,387 --> 01:30:41,547
Speaker 11: All Blacks amidst great opposition from other high quality players

1806
01:30:41,827 --> 01:30:45,467
Speaker 11: to step up and become a top quality a coach

1807
01:30:46,027 --> 01:30:47,867
Speaker 11: really did catch some people by surprise.

1808
01:30:47,947 --> 01:30:50,827
Speaker 2: But Howby did such a good job of it, absolutely

1809
01:30:50,907 --> 01:30:53,387
Speaker 2: and then onto the All Blacks first as Sir Brian

1810
01:30:53,467 --> 01:30:56,107
Speaker 2: Lawhaw's assistant in eighty seven. But I don't know, John,

1811
01:30:56,147 --> 01:30:57,787
Speaker 2: You've watched a lot of All Blacks rugby, but the

1812
01:30:57,827 --> 01:31:01,387
Speaker 2: All Black sides under grows Wiley in nineteen eight, nineteen

1813
01:31:01,427 --> 01:31:05,427
Speaker 2: eighty nine, I can't remember, certainly in my lifetime a

1814
01:31:05,507 --> 01:31:08,467
Speaker 2: more exciting brand and of rugby at that time. How

1815
01:31:08,507 --> 01:31:11,547
Speaker 2: do you assess Gross as an All Blacks head coach.

1816
01:31:11,987 --> 01:31:14,987
Speaker 11: Well, when he got off the out of the eighty

1817
01:31:15,067 --> 01:31:17,947
Speaker 11: seven Rugby World Cup team when he was helping to

1818
01:31:17,987 --> 01:31:22,387
Speaker 11: coach that and became the sole coach or not sold,

1819
01:31:22,427 --> 01:31:26,987
Speaker 11: but certainly the head coach, he instigated a really different

1820
01:31:27,067 --> 01:31:31,107
Speaker 11: regime for the players. And I you know, several of

1821
01:31:31,227 --> 01:31:34,227
Speaker 11: us older people were away on the tour to Australia,

1822
01:31:34,267 --> 01:31:37,187
Speaker 11: for example in nineteen eighty eight when they went so well,

1823
01:31:37,267 --> 01:31:41,667
Speaker 11: they just drew one match against Australia, but they won

1824
01:31:41,787 --> 01:31:47,307
Speaker 11: everything else under Whiley and they had some interesting training sessions,

1825
01:31:47,387 --> 01:31:50,187
Speaker 11: you know, and it's been well documented that when the

1826
01:31:50,227 --> 01:31:53,587
Speaker 11: players didn't play well, he worked on pretty hard. But

1827
01:31:53,747 --> 01:31:56,947
Speaker 11: then he also bought in some unusual aspects of training,

1828
01:31:57,027 --> 01:31:59,067
Speaker 11: such as rud o boys, we're going to have a

1829
01:31:59,187 --> 01:32:02,907
Speaker 11: bnare And that was frowned upon by a lot within

1830
01:32:02,987 --> 01:32:05,987
Speaker 11: the New Zealand Rugby Union and within the rugby fraternity,

1831
01:32:06,427 --> 01:32:08,147
Speaker 11: but it had been a method that it worked for

1832
01:32:08,267 --> 01:32:10,947
Speaker 11: him for Canterbury, and I don't think it was a

1833
01:32:11,027 --> 01:32:13,867
Speaker 11: failure with the orbacks either. Some players weren't used to

1834
01:32:13,947 --> 01:32:16,547
Speaker 11: it and some said what the hell's going on, but

1835
01:32:16,787 --> 01:32:19,347
Speaker 11: eventually they would all say, you know, Gris had a

1836
01:32:19,387 --> 01:32:22,307
Speaker 11: different method and on reflection it worked.

1837
01:32:22,827 --> 01:32:27,987
Speaker 2: What was his relationship like with the media, Well, I

1838
01:32:28,147 --> 01:32:29,467
Speaker 2: had no hussles with them, you know.

1839
01:32:29,587 --> 01:32:33,107
Speaker 11: I think there's because he was gruff and he was

1840
01:32:33,747 --> 01:32:37,627
Speaker 11: not the most eloquent, eloquent of people. He was one

1841
01:32:37,667 --> 01:32:39,427
Speaker 11: of those people who just wanted to get in and

1842
01:32:39,587 --> 01:32:42,747
Speaker 11: do the job and he knew he had a commitment

1843
01:32:43,267 --> 01:32:46,307
Speaker 11: on obligation to the media to promote rugby and to

1844
01:32:46,467 --> 01:32:49,187
Speaker 11: let people know what was going on, but he never

1845
01:32:49,347 --> 01:32:52,667
Speaker 11: really felt comfortable with it, and there were many examples

1846
01:32:52,747 --> 01:32:55,787
Speaker 11: of him looking to be a bit flustered up there

1847
01:32:55,867 --> 01:32:58,667
Speaker 11: and not really wanting to talk any you know, to

1848
01:32:58,747 --> 01:33:01,667
Speaker 11: any great extent. But getting him one on one was

1849
01:33:02,587 --> 01:33:06,747
Speaker 11: a delight, you know, as a radio reporter back the time,

1850
01:33:06,827 --> 01:33:09,187
Speaker 11: I had learned so much about what he was trying

1851
01:33:09,227 --> 01:33:12,267
Speaker 11: to achieve, it about rugby in general, from just having

1852
01:33:12,307 --> 01:33:15,027
Speaker 11: a sit down with him and occasionally that i'mvolved to

1853
01:33:15,067 --> 01:33:18,667
Speaker 11: be it, and I found that I knew where he

1854
01:33:18,787 --> 01:33:22,427
Speaker 11: was coming from with his reluctance to talk to the

1855
01:33:22,507 --> 01:33:26,387
Speaker 11: media much. But it was mainly because he just felt

1856
01:33:26,707 --> 01:33:29,347
Speaker 11: a but I don't think I'm inadequate, so we'd but

1857
01:33:29,427 --> 01:33:30,667
Speaker 11: he just felt uncomfortable with it.

1858
01:33:31,027 --> 01:33:31,547
Speaker 16: He wanted to.

1859
01:33:31,747 --> 01:33:34,587
Speaker 11: He was a good coach, very good coach. The media

1860
01:33:34,667 --> 01:33:36,707
Speaker 11: side of it wasn't quite so comfortable for him.

1861
01:33:37,067 --> 01:33:40,147
Speaker 2: And just to finish another of your great love's lawn bowls,

1862
01:33:40,187 --> 01:33:41,947
Speaker 2: so he went into that as well. Was he a

1863
01:33:42,107 --> 01:33:43,107
Speaker 2: handy lawn bowler?

1864
01:33:44,227 --> 01:33:44,387
Speaker 23: Oh.

1865
01:33:45,587 --> 01:33:48,187
Speaker 11: I played with him in the National championships down in

1866
01:33:48,267 --> 01:33:52,307
Speaker 11: Alexandra four or five years ago with him and his

1867
01:33:52,747 --> 01:33:56,547
Speaker 11: team from North Canterbury. He loved his bowls and I

1868
01:33:56,827 --> 01:33:59,067
Speaker 11: did an interview with him about it and that he said,

1869
01:33:59,147 --> 01:34:02,147
Speaker 11: you know, I just can't believe I never saw how

1870
01:34:02,667 --> 01:34:07,307
Speaker 11: exciting and how invigorating bowls could be. Wish I'd started

1871
01:34:07,387 --> 01:34:10,067
Speaker 11: playing it a hell of a lot earlier. He appeared

1872
01:34:10,067 --> 01:34:12,907
Speaker 11: on the initial television series of Bowls three to five

1873
01:34:13,627 --> 01:34:17,427
Speaker 11: with his partner Jenny Anderson and who herself a very

1874
01:34:17,427 --> 01:34:19,907
Speaker 11: good bowler, and some of the guys from the wood

1875
01:34:20,027 --> 01:34:23,467
Speaker 11: End Club in North Canterbury and Grizz. There'll be so

1876
01:34:23,547 --> 01:34:25,707
Speaker 11: many bowlers out there now just nodding their heads and

1877
01:34:25,787 --> 01:34:28,387
Speaker 11: say we played against him. He came to our tournament

1878
01:34:28,507 --> 01:34:30,707
Speaker 11: up north, he came to our tournament down south. He

1879
01:34:30,867 --> 01:34:33,267
Speaker 11: loved his bowls. And the bowling greens will be a

1880
01:34:33,307 --> 01:34:36,827
Speaker 11: lot quieter and a lot more somble without Grizz around.

1881
01:34:37,347 --> 01:34:39,587
Speaker 2: John, Thanks for joining us to pay tribute to griz Waly.

1882
01:34:39,667 --> 01:34:41,947
Speaker 2: I know you've got some balls to play or to oversea,

1883
01:34:42,067 --> 01:34:43,907
Speaker 2: so let you get back to that. But thanks for

1884
01:34:43,987 --> 01:34:45,027
Speaker 2: taking the time this afternoon.

1885
01:34:45,307 --> 01:34:47,867
Speaker 11: Just one moment, Jason say Am I'm still there. Just

1886
01:34:48,707 --> 01:34:51,827
Speaker 11: on Saturday or so yesterday Gris sat there with his

1887
01:34:51,947 --> 01:34:55,147
Speaker 11: family and they watched the Crusaders under twenty team win

1888
01:34:55,307 --> 01:34:59,667
Speaker 11: their match and his grandson cind McCloud was playing number

1889
01:34:59,707 --> 01:35:02,947
Speaker 11: eight for Canterbury so with a Crusaders so he would

1890
01:35:02,947 --> 01:35:04,667
Speaker 11: have had a smile on his face towards the end.

1891
01:35:04,907 --> 01:35:06,987
Speaker 2: Brilliant stuff, John, Thank you joining us in what a

1892
01:35:07,027 --> 01:35:09,747
Speaker 2: way to finish the chat. Really appreciate you taking the time.

1893
01:35:10,027 --> 01:35:12,827
Speaker 2: John McBeth paying tribute to Gris Wiley, who passed away

1894
01:35:12,907 --> 01:35:16,547
Speaker 2: overnight at the age of eighty two. Nineteen New stalk

1895
01:35:16,547 --> 01:35:17,947
Speaker 2: shead beat Weak is.

1896
01:35:19,667 --> 01:35:19,827
Speaker 7: Well.

1897
01:35:19,867 --> 01:35:23,027
Speaker 2: In the space of four nights, Eden Park is hosting

1898
01:35:23,147 --> 01:35:26,907
Speaker 2: three different elite sports. On Friday, a T twenty cricket

1899
01:35:26,987 --> 01:35:29,067
Speaker 2: doublehead of the White Ferans and the Black Apps faced

1900
01:35:29,107 --> 01:35:34,307
Speaker 2: Australia and Pakistan respectively. Last night Super Rugby Blues v. Crusaders,

1901
01:35:34,347 --> 01:35:37,427
Speaker 2: and then tomorrow night the FIFA World Cup qualifier the

1902
01:35:37,507 --> 01:35:40,707
Speaker 2: All Whites up against New Caledonia. How challenging is that

1903
01:35:40,827 --> 01:35:44,227
Speaker 2: to achieve for the turf team. Let's find out. Eden

1904
01:35:44,267 --> 01:35:47,947
Speaker 2: Park turf manager Blair Christiansen is with us. Blair, is

1905
01:35:48,027 --> 01:35:50,627
Speaker 2: this the first time, you've had three different sports in

1906
01:35:50,707 --> 01:35:51,187
Speaker 2: four days.

1907
01:35:52,187 --> 01:35:55,867
Speaker 12: Yep, it sure as jas, thanks for having me on. Yeah,

1908
01:35:55,987 --> 01:36:00,947
Speaker 12: pretty challenging on paper. And you know, while we've done

1909
01:36:00,987 --> 01:36:04,987
Speaker 12: all three codes pretty regularly here at the stadium, certainly

1910
01:36:05,067 --> 01:36:05,907
Speaker 12: not three.

1911
01:36:05,827 --> 01:36:06,307
Speaker 9: And four days.

1912
01:36:06,707 --> 01:36:09,227
Speaker 2: What are the particular challenges that it presents to you

1913
01:36:09,427 --> 01:36:11,547
Speaker 2: having such short turnarounds?

1914
01:36:12,987 --> 01:36:15,067
Speaker 12: Just just ensuring we get it right. We have some

1915
01:36:15,267 --> 01:36:18,867
Speaker 12: pretty high expectations and so do the hires, and we

1916
01:36:19,027 --> 01:36:20,907
Speaker 12: just want to make sure that, you know, we can

1917
01:36:21,027 --> 01:36:23,907
Speaker 12: get the outcomes that you know, we've sort of done

1918
01:36:23,987 --> 01:36:27,347
Speaker 12: repeatedly with you know, pretty reasonable lead times, but this

1919
01:36:27,507 --> 01:36:30,067
Speaker 12: time we're sort of snapping from one to the next

1920
01:36:30,147 --> 01:36:31,547
Speaker 12: to the next, and they're all pretty different.

1921
01:36:31,547 --> 01:36:33,707
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that I can imagine. Yeah, you know,

1922
01:36:33,827 --> 01:36:37,427
Speaker 2: three different codes in terms of grass length, for a start,

1923
01:36:38,627 --> 01:36:41,347
Speaker 2: was the grass shorter for the rugby last night than

1924
01:36:41,347 --> 01:36:44,227
Speaker 2: it ordinarily would be because there had been cricket there

1925
01:36:44,307 --> 01:36:44,987
Speaker 2: the previous night?

1926
01:36:45,707 --> 01:36:48,187
Speaker 12: Yeah, there was about half the height. So for you know,

1927
01:36:48,267 --> 01:36:51,587
Speaker 12: a small ball code like cricket, we want that let

1928
01:36:51,667 --> 01:36:54,467
Speaker 12: the ball running across the outfield pretty quickly, and so

1929
01:36:54,547 --> 01:36:57,787
Speaker 12: we're down at say thirteen millimeter cutting heights for the cricket,

1930
01:36:57,827 --> 01:37:00,587
Speaker 12: and then you know, at the moment, with the nutritional

1931
01:37:00,707 --> 01:37:03,027
Speaker 12: program that we're running, we can sort of get about

1932
01:37:03,067 --> 01:37:06,707
Speaker 12: five plus mills of growth today. So last night for

1933
01:37:07,187 --> 01:37:10,987
Speaker 12: the Crusader's Blues we're up at about eighteen and then

1934
01:37:11,067 --> 01:37:13,947
Speaker 12: hopefully on Monday night will be sort of you know,

1935
01:37:14,067 --> 01:37:18,267
Speaker 12: in the mid twenties. And so for rugby mid season

1936
01:37:18,347 --> 01:37:20,787
Speaker 12: and getting in towards autumn and say winter, we can

1937
01:37:20,867 --> 01:37:23,147
Speaker 12: be up as high as thirty two milk, but last

1938
01:37:23,227 --> 01:37:24,907
Speaker 12: night they were at about seventeen.

1939
01:37:25,267 --> 01:37:27,907
Speaker 2: So you can get natural grass growth that quickly.

1940
01:37:28,787 --> 01:37:33,067
Speaker 12: Yep, yeah, absolutely. I mean the programs that we run

1941
01:37:33,147 --> 01:37:37,627
Speaker 12: with nutrition sort of are built around sort of creating

1942
01:37:37,667 --> 01:37:40,787
Speaker 12: some resilience but also growth and recovery. So you know,

1943
01:37:40,947 --> 01:37:44,067
Speaker 12: five mils isn't too much to ask in twenty four hours.

1944
01:37:45,347 --> 01:37:47,547
Speaker 2: Well, they often say, you know, it's like watching grass grow.

1945
01:37:47,627 --> 01:37:50,227
Speaker 2: For you, it probably is, you know, something you've probably

1946
01:37:50,427 --> 01:37:50,987
Speaker 2: enjoyed doing.

1947
01:37:51,347 --> 01:37:53,187
Speaker 12: Well, I'll tell you what I'm doing right now is

1948
01:37:53,307 --> 01:37:56,947
Speaker 12: actually watching you know, grass grow and paint dry. So

1949
01:37:57,387 --> 01:37:58,507
Speaker 12: not everyone gets to do that.

1950
01:37:59,787 --> 01:38:02,827
Speaker 2: Amazing. If it had been in a different order, Blair,

1951
01:38:02,867 --> 01:38:05,947
Speaker 2: if it had been rugby, cricket, football, could you still

1952
01:38:05,987 --> 01:38:06,427
Speaker 2: have done.

1953
01:38:07,867 --> 01:38:09,987
Speaker 12: A little bit more challenging just with the cricket element.

1954
01:38:10,107 --> 01:38:12,707
Speaker 12: So you know, a good international cricket pitch takes us

1955
01:38:12,787 --> 01:38:15,587
Speaker 12: around two weeks to prepare. And so while we do

1956
01:38:15,707 --> 01:38:18,747
Speaker 12: have the portable pitch technology and you know, we bring

1957
01:38:18,947 --> 01:38:21,427
Speaker 12: pitches in and out of the stadium, I prefer for

1958
01:38:21,547 --> 01:38:23,867
Speaker 12: internationals to prepare them, you know, and sit you in

1959
01:38:23,907 --> 01:38:25,667
Speaker 12: the ground and then you know, we can sort of

1960
01:38:27,067 --> 01:38:30,427
Speaker 12: hope to have you know, a really high quality surface

1961
01:38:30,867 --> 01:38:35,027
Speaker 12: bringing them in let's say after a winter code as such,

1962
01:38:35,467 --> 01:38:37,667
Speaker 12: and then only having one day drop them in. I

1963
01:38:37,827 --> 01:38:40,067
Speaker 12: just don't have that same confidence that we can get

1964
01:38:40,107 --> 01:38:42,587
Speaker 12: the quality that you know, everyone would expect. So in

1965
01:38:42,707 --> 01:38:44,307
Speaker 12: terms of the order, I think it was pretty good.

1966
01:38:45,827 --> 01:38:48,467
Speaker 12: I mean, if it was an even better order, it

1967
01:38:48,627 --> 01:38:52,187
Speaker 12: was probably if we'd had the football and second that

1968
01:38:52,307 --> 01:38:56,507
Speaker 12: was been ideal. But fields pulled up really well after

1969
01:38:56,627 --> 01:38:58,987
Speaker 12: last night souper rugby and it's looking pretty sharp.

1970
01:38:59,227 --> 01:39:01,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so you talked about watching some paint dry.

1971
01:39:01,867 --> 01:39:04,107
Speaker 2: Clearly the ground, Mike, we don't. You don't need too

1972
01:39:04,147 --> 01:39:06,747
Speaker 2: many for cricket, do you about for rugby and football?

1973
01:39:07,547 --> 01:39:11,867
Speaker 2: You know, quite different ground markings. Is it possible like

1974
01:39:11,907 --> 01:39:14,347
Speaker 2: tomorrow night at the football. Will we still see some

1975
01:39:14,547 --> 01:39:15,907
Speaker 2: faint rugby markings?

1976
01:39:16,387 --> 01:39:16,907
Speaker 9: I hope not.

1977
01:39:17,707 --> 01:39:21,227
Speaker 12: We were out last night until after midnight, washing those

1978
01:39:22,227 --> 01:39:26,427
Speaker 12: rugby sidelines and twenty two and you know every other

1979
01:39:27,067 --> 01:39:29,907
Speaker 12: five and fifteen off and you know that field was

1980
01:39:29,947 --> 01:39:33,027
Speaker 12: actually only in for around a total of nine hours,

1981
01:39:33,267 --> 01:39:35,707
Speaker 12: so sort of put it in pretty late and then

1982
01:39:35,907 --> 01:39:36,867
Speaker 12: washed it off pretty quick.

1983
01:39:36,987 --> 01:39:39,547
Speaker 9: So plan is not to.

1984
01:39:39,627 --> 01:39:42,747
Speaker 12: See any sort of resemblance of that game from last night.

1985
01:39:43,147 --> 01:39:45,427
Speaker 2: Outstanding. How many of your team are involved in this?

1986
01:39:45,507 --> 01:39:46,427
Speaker 2: How bigs you work force?

1987
01:39:46,947 --> 01:39:47,547
Speaker 9: The whole team?

1988
01:39:48,227 --> 01:39:50,747
Speaker 12: You know, we've got seven guys on the ground and

1989
01:39:50,867 --> 01:39:52,947
Speaker 12: you know everyone's been here. I haven't been home for

1990
01:39:53,187 --> 01:39:57,067
Speaker 12: three days now, and that's the same as everybody else.

1991
01:39:57,107 --> 01:39:59,227
Speaker 12: And we're sort of, you know, fully into it. We

1992
01:39:59,267 --> 01:40:01,267
Speaker 12: hadn't done it before and want to make sure that

1993
01:40:01,347 --> 01:40:04,307
Speaker 12: we sort of do everything we can to make sure

1994
01:40:04,347 --> 01:40:04,867
Speaker 12: it's a success.

1995
01:40:05,227 --> 01:40:07,467
Speaker 2: So are you sleeping at the ground.

1996
01:40:08,027 --> 01:40:11,227
Speaker 12: Well, yeah, without being elon musk like, yep, I just

1997
01:40:11,307 --> 01:40:13,627
Speaker 12: slept on my floor in my office for the last

1998
01:40:13,667 --> 01:40:16,267
Speaker 12: two nights. And you know, we've had some pretty late finishes.

1999
01:40:16,347 --> 01:40:18,947
Speaker 12: I think it was after moving the cricket pitch out

2000
01:40:19,667 --> 01:40:23,827
Speaker 12: on Friday night, after the t twenties. That was close

2001
01:40:23,907 --> 01:40:26,707
Speaker 12: to four am last night. By the time you sort

2002
01:40:26,707 --> 01:40:29,147
Speaker 12: of do a bit of admin after all of it

2003
01:40:29,667 --> 01:40:33,187
Speaker 12: on the groundwork, it's probably two and then back pretty early.

2004
01:40:33,547 --> 01:40:36,827
Speaker 12: So to sort of make it a bit more efficient

2005
01:40:36,867 --> 01:40:39,787
Speaker 12: than I'll just stay the night outstanding FIFA.

2006
01:40:39,987 --> 01:40:43,707
Speaker 2: That's a FIFA event tomorrow night, and they have a

2007
01:40:43,787 --> 01:40:47,067
Speaker 2: reputation for wanting things to be just so have I

2008
01:40:47,387 --> 01:40:50,187
Speaker 2: given you any specific requirements for tomorrow night?

2009
01:40:50,747 --> 01:40:50,867
Speaker 9: Oh?

2010
01:40:50,947 --> 01:40:54,187
Speaker 12: Yeah, everything FIFA is extremely precise and specific.

2011
01:40:54,707 --> 01:40:54,907
Speaker 9: Yep.

2012
01:40:55,227 --> 01:41:02,387
Speaker 12: So bull speed, surface firmness, precision with regard to line

2013
01:41:02,467 --> 01:41:05,267
Speaker 12: marking has to be one hundred percent accurate. You know,

2014
01:41:05,347 --> 01:41:08,547
Speaker 12: they've got their own hand and you know we're doing this.

2015
01:41:08,867 --> 01:41:10,947
Speaker 12: Woman's fee for World Cup in twenty three. Was sort

2016
01:41:10,987 --> 01:41:14,347
Speaker 12: of pretty familiar with that, so we know it to expect.

2017
01:41:14,427 --> 01:41:16,507
Speaker 12: But I think it could be you know, a little

2018
01:41:16,507 --> 01:41:19,267
Speaker 12: bit daunting for for some that may not have done

2019
01:41:19,307 --> 01:41:22,747
Speaker 12: it before. So luckily we're well experienced in that space.

2020
01:41:23,227 --> 01:41:26,467
Speaker 2: And obviously you look after the turf, but there's the

2021
01:41:26,747 --> 01:41:29,627
Speaker 2: advertising signage as well. How much does it help and

2022
01:41:29,707 --> 01:41:33,147
Speaker 2: turn around as short as this to have electronic ground

2023
01:41:33,187 --> 01:41:34,707
Speaker 2: signage rather than have to lug out you know, the

2024
01:41:34,947 --> 01:41:37,267
Speaker 2: big bits of advertising hoardings they would have had to.

2025
01:41:37,347 --> 01:41:40,747
Speaker 12: Use to Yeah, no, it's critical to sort of having

2026
01:41:40,827 --> 01:41:43,187
Speaker 12: this ability to slip from code to code. You know,

2027
01:41:43,307 --> 01:41:47,627
Speaker 12: the virtual advertising now that you see on the field

2028
01:41:47,787 --> 01:41:51,227
Speaker 12: is imperative, and you know, it just makes for such

2029
01:41:51,267 --> 01:41:54,067
Speaker 12: a high, high quality surface, whereas previously, you know, there

2030
01:41:54,107 --> 01:41:56,347
Speaker 12: were painted logos that were being removed, there was sort

2031
01:41:56,347 --> 01:42:01,947
Speaker 12: of shadowing, masking. You know, just using technology now is

2032
01:42:02,027 --> 01:42:03,867
Speaker 12: just you know, it's magnificent.

2033
01:42:03,947 --> 01:42:04,267
Speaker 6: I love it.

2034
01:42:04,707 --> 01:42:08,547
Speaker 2: Good stuff. Well, my tremendous what you've done up till now.

2035
01:42:08,747 --> 01:42:10,787
Speaker 2: And I can just hear in your voice the confidence

2036
01:42:10,827 --> 01:42:13,747
Speaker 2: you have that you'll execute tomorrow night as well. Could

2037
01:42:13,787 --> 01:42:16,107
Speaker 2: you have done three and three days as the football

2038
01:42:16,187 --> 01:42:17,227
Speaker 2: was tonight, could you have done it?

2039
01:42:17,827 --> 01:42:20,627
Speaker 12: Well, I'm looking at it now and we're probably ninety

2040
01:42:20,627 --> 01:42:23,587
Speaker 12: percent through the line marks now and we're just sort

2041
01:42:23,627 --> 01:42:28,067
Speaker 12: of been chipping away at today. I actually think we

2042
01:42:28,147 --> 01:42:34,027
Speaker 12: could have done that with the singular game. Yeah, we

2043
01:42:34,107 --> 01:42:34,667
Speaker 12: could have done that.

2044
01:42:34,787 --> 01:42:36,427
Speaker 2: Wonderful. And what's next? I think the Blues have got

2045
01:42:36,467 --> 01:42:37,907
Speaker 2: to buy, haven't they? So no rugby for a lot?

2046
01:42:37,907 --> 01:42:38,747
Speaker 2: Have you got a bit of a break.

2047
01:42:39,867 --> 01:42:42,387
Speaker 12: There's an away game for them or is that to

2048
01:42:42,427 --> 01:42:44,067
Speaker 12: buy here? It might be next week to buy and

2049
01:42:44,147 --> 01:42:47,107
Speaker 12: then they're back on the early April. We've still got

2050
01:42:47,147 --> 01:42:48,667
Speaker 12: a bit of cricket going on the outer oval, so

2051
01:42:49,027 --> 01:42:51,587
Speaker 12: you know, just mixing a match in between the two

2052
01:42:51,707 --> 01:42:55,987
Speaker 12: venues and we'll get a rest in June and July

2053
01:42:56,667 --> 01:42:59,107
Speaker 12: if it's of course, if the Blues don't make the finals,

2054
01:42:59,147 --> 01:43:01,587
Speaker 12: which are sure on paper they probably still can, so

2055
01:43:02,227 --> 01:43:02,867
Speaker 12: let's hope they do.

2056
01:43:03,107 --> 01:43:03,427
Speaker 9: Good man.

2057
01:43:03,467 --> 01:43:05,787
Speaker 2: But well, I've often heard that the most important man

2058
01:43:05,827 --> 01:43:07,467
Speaker 2: in the room is the calmest man in the room,

2059
01:43:07,707 --> 01:43:09,507
Speaker 2: and that sounds like you at the moment, my friends.

2060
01:43:09,507 --> 01:43:12,027
Speaker 2: So thanks for taking our call. Hope you sleep okay tonight?

2061
01:43:12,547 --> 01:43:14,227
Speaker 2: Are you going home tonight? Are you going to camp

2062
01:43:14,227 --> 01:43:14,947
Speaker 2: in the office again?

2063
01:43:15,387 --> 01:43:17,747
Speaker 12: I did say we shouldn't go home until the final

2064
01:43:17,747 --> 01:43:20,907
Speaker 12: whistle tomorrow night. I think we have to see people

2065
01:43:20,947 --> 01:43:22,187
Speaker 12: at home that are saying what are you doing?

2066
01:43:22,707 --> 01:43:23,427
Speaker 9: Have you moved out?

2067
01:43:23,547 --> 01:43:25,587
Speaker 12: So now head home.

2068
01:43:25,427 --> 01:43:27,827
Speaker 2: Tonight, lovable great to jet mate, Thanks for taking the.

2069
01:43:27,867 --> 01:43:30,267
Speaker 12: Call, brilliant Okay, thanks Jase, all the.

2070
01:43:30,267 --> 01:43:32,547
Speaker 2: Best, mate, Cheers Blair Christens and they're tef manager at

2071
01:43:32,667 --> 01:43:35,107
Speaker 2: Eden Park. What a what a top bloke and what

2072
01:43:35,227 --> 01:43:37,787
Speaker 2: a very very organized man. He must be for cricket,

2073
01:43:38,067 --> 01:43:41,787
Speaker 2: followed by rugby, followed by football tremendous to twenty seven.

2074
01:43:41,867 --> 01:43:44,467
Speaker 2: Speaking of football, we're inside the All Whites camp with

2075
01:43:44,707 --> 01:43:46,067
Speaker 2: Vice Captain Libby Cacacci.

2076
01:43:46,147 --> 01:43:51,587
Speaker 1: After this one crutch Hold Engage Weekend Sports with Jason

2077
01:43:51,667 --> 01:43:54,027
Speaker 1: Tame and GJ gunder Homes, New.

2078
01:43:54,067 --> 01:43:57,067
Speaker 4: Zealand's first trusted home Milder News talk to Baby.

2079
01:43:59,987 --> 01:44:05,107
Speaker 24: New Zealand's All Whites ninety minutes from the Speaker World

2080
01:44:05,187 --> 01:44:12,227
Speaker 24: Camp next year. Seven heaven tonight in Wellington, a hand

2081
01:44:12,267 --> 01:44:17,667
Speaker 24: trick from their skipmer, their talisman, their main man, Chris Wood, goals.

2082
01:44:17,427 --> 01:44:20,947
Speaker 2: For seeing for payin for barbarusis and an own goal

2083
01:44:21,027 --> 01:44:22,867
Speaker 2: on the mix as well. Here seven zero winners the

2084
01:44:22,867 --> 01:44:25,667
Speaker 2: All Whites over fig on Friday night in Wellington that

2085
01:44:25,707 --> 01:44:29,467
Speaker 2: has fed them into the Oceania World Cup qualifying final

2086
01:44:29,787 --> 01:44:32,547
Speaker 2: tomorrow night at Eden Park seven o'clock kickoff. They will

2087
01:44:32,627 --> 01:44:36,627
Speaker 2: take on New Caledonia for direct entry into next year's

2088
01:44:36,667 --> 01:44:39,907
Speaker 2: expanded forty eight team FIFA World Cup. Let's bring in

2089
01:44:39,947 --> 01:44:43,547
Speaker 2: All Whites Vice Captain Libby Cacacci. Let's start with Friday, Libby,

2090
01:44:43,627 --> 01:44:45,187
Speaker 2: how happy were you and the rest of the players

2091
01:44:45,227 --> 01:44:46,947
Speaker 2: with the way you played on Friday Night.

2092
01:44:47,707 --> 01:44:49,187
Speaker 9: It was a great performance.

2093
01:44:50,547 --> 01:44:53,027
Speaker 5: Zero buzz to the team right now. I'm off the

2094
01:44:53,067 --> 01:44:57,587
Speaker 5: back of that and I think we put on a great,

2095
01:44:57,827 --> 01:45:00,107
Speaker 5: great show for Wellington and the fans.

2096
01:45:00,867 --> 01:45:03,107
Speaker 2: Was it in any way challenging when you came into

2097
01:45:03,187 --> 01:45:06,187
Speaker 2: camp not to think about the Monday game before you

2098
01:45:06,467 --> 01:45:09,787
Speaker 2: played the Friday game, just to focus first on Fiji

2099
01:45:09,907 --> 01:45:11,027
Speaker 2: and not think too far ahead.

2100
01:45:12,147 --> 01:45:12,467
Speaker 8: For sure.

2101
01:45:12,507 --> 01:45:14,667
Speaker 5: You know it's been it's been a long time obviously

2102
01:45:14,747 --> 01:45:17,387
Speaker 5: since we've qualified and for the work up, and everyone's

2103
01:45:17,427 --> 01:45:19,267
Speaker 5: obviously one to do it as soon as they can,

2104
01:45:20,547 --> 01:45:23,387
Speaker 5: but you know they and then the stuff did really

2105
01:45:23,427 --> 01:45:25,547
Speaker 5: well with us, you know, making sure that we're focused

2106
01:45:26,147 --> 01:45:28,427
Speaker 5: on the game in hand, and we did that so

2107
01:45:28,547 --> 01:45:29,347
Speaker 5: now we can really.

2108
01:45:29,187 --> 01:45:30,947
Speaker 8: Focus on on to my nice game.

2109
01:45:31,507 --> 01:45:34,427
Speaker 2: Do you think this White squad is starting to develop

2110
01:45:34,507 --> 01:45:37,947
Speaker 2: its unique style? It's it's great to watch everybody enjoyed

2111
01:45:37,987 --> 01:45:40,747
Speaker 2: Friday Night looks enjoyable to play in. Do you think

2112
01:45:41,027 --> 01:45:43,947
Speaker 2: you're coming up with a with an all whites way

2113
01:45:44,267 --> 01:45:46,347
Speaker 2: for the modern day game at the moment?

2114
01:45:47,227 --> 01:45:53,067
Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, there's been a definite development since since

2115
01:45:53,107 --> 01:45:55,907
Speaker 5: the last few few cycles, that's for sure. You know,

2116
01:45:56,347 --> 01:45:58,467
Speaker 5: you can see with a lot of boys playing at

2117
01:45:58,507 --> 01:46:01,427
Speaker 5: you know, such a high high level club wise, they

2118
01:46:01,547 --> 01:46:05,027
Speaker 5: really produce it. With the national team, you can you

2119
01:46:05,107 --> 01:46:07,507
Speaker 5: can see that and someone especially in the last game

2120
01:46:08,027 --> 01:46:10,507
Speaker 5: some of the goals we scored. There was a real

2121
01:46:10,867 --> 01:46:13,267
Speaker 5: game goal that we scored I think for the for

2122
01:46:13,467 --> 01:46:17,547
Speaker 5: Costers goal, and yeah, hopefully we can keep producing that,

2123
01:46:17,747 --> 01:46:19,107
Speaker 5: especially to my night.

2124
01:46:19,747 --> 01:46:22,387
Speaker 2: How good has it been having separate saying back in

2125
01:46:22,467 --> 01:46:23,947
Speaker 2: the national side in recent games.

2126
01:46:25,107 --> 01:46:28,867
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's He's one player that I play on the

2127
01:46:28,907 --> 01:46:32,707
Speaker 5: club level. Yeah, he just shows you know, those glimpses

2128
01:46:32,747 --> 01:46:36,667
Speaker 5: of talent and that that he's always had. And you know,

2129
01:46:37,467 --> 01:46:40,187
Speaker 5: I'm hoping he can stay an injury free and you know,

2130
01:46:40,627 --> 01:46:42,107
Speaker 5: keep helping us like he's been doing.

2131
01:46:42,827 --> 01:46:46,107
Speaker 2: And Chris what of course, just seems to score goals

2132
01:46:46,147 --> 01:46:48,867
Speaker 2: for fun these days. How would you describe his influence

2133
01:46:49,347 --> 01:46:51,907
Speaker 2: though on the on the All Whites from a player's

2134
01:46:51,947 --> 01:46:55,387
Speaker 2: perspective inside the playing group, Yeah, I wish I.

2135
01:46:55,387 --> 01:46:58,547
Speaker 5: Could have a bit of taste of that he's been

2136
01:46:58,627 --> 01:47:01,587
Speaker 5: doing for Cloth and country. I'm glad, you know, he's

2137
01:47:01,667 --> 01:47:04,307
Speaker 5: just he's producing that also for the national team. And

2138
01:47:05,587 --> 01:47:07,107
Speaker 5: you saw what he was doing it, you know when

2139
01:47:07,107 --> 01:47:10,187
Speaker 5: he got subbed off. He went to go to go

2140
01:47:10,307 --> 01:47:12,707
Speaker 5: sign some autographs, and you know, it just just shows

2141
01:47:12,747 --> 01:47:15,307
Speaker 5: what kind of person he is. You know, he puts

2142
01:47:15,547 --> 01:47:19,787
Speaker 5: obviously the team before himself, and you know that's why

2143
01:47:19,827 --> 01:47:22,627
Speaker 5: he's a captain, That's why he's you know, the the

2144
01:47:22,707 --> 01:47:24,387
Speaker 5: leading voice for the for the team. And you know,

2145
01:47:25,147 --> 01:47:26,707
Speaker 5: we're just trying to help him. Sit him up and

2146
01:47:26,747 --> 01:47:28,747
Speaker 5: score as many goals as you can and.

2147
01:47:29,147 --> 01:47:32,427
Speaker 2: Obviously increase leadership responsibility for you as well as vice

2148
01:47:32,507 --> 01:47:34,987
Speaker 2: captain of the side. Is that something that you that

2149
01:47:35,107 --> 01:47:38,427
Speaker 2: you relish, you embrace a greater official leadership role in

2150
01:47:38,427 --> 01:47:38,907
Speaker 2: the all Lies.

2151
01:47:39,667 --> 01:47:40,187
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.

2152
01:47:40,227 --> 01:47:43,387
Speaker 5: You know it's a mess of achievement for myself and

2153
01:47:44,227 --> 01:47:46,827
Speaker 5: you know, I'm just trying to trying to help, you know,

2154
01:47:46,907 --> 01:47:48,507
Speaker 5: take the load off off Woods here. But you know,

2155
01:47:48,627 --> 01:47:51,187
Speaker 5: he's he's obviously got a lot of things to do,

2156
01:47:51,387 --> 01:47:54,267
Speaker 5: and you know we see every everyone in the team

2157
01:47:54,267 --> 01:47:57,067
Speaker 5: as leaders. But I'm just I'm just happy I can

2158
01:47:57,307 --> 01:47:59,507
Speaker 5: kind of help the team in that regret.

2159
01:48:00,067 --> 01:48:03,027
Speaker 2: How different a threat do you think New Caledonia will

2160
01:48:03,067 --> 01:48:05,547
Speaker 2: post here tomorrow night compared to Fiji on Friday.

2161
01:48:06,907 --> 01:48:09,987
Speaker 5: Yeah, most of the boys actually watched the game because

2162
01:48:09,987 --> 01:48:12,907
Speaker 5: they were played before us, and you know it's a

2163
01:48:12,947 --> 01:48:15,787
Speaker 5: team that we haven't faced obviously with they went at

2164
01:48:15,827 --> 01:48:17,907
Speaker 5: the Nation's Cups. It will be it will be a good, good,

2165
01:48:18,027 --> 01:48:20,307
Speaker 5: new kind of test that we've that we haven't really

2166
01:48:20,347 --> 01:48:23,987
Speaker 5: faced before, you know, the physical side, and they've got

2167
01:48:24,107 --> 01:48:25,907
Speaker 5: they've got some players that can hurt us. I've seen

2168
01:48:25,947 --> 01:48:29,747
Speaker 5: all sort of recruited also Ceteria, so you know, you

2169
01:48:29,827 --> 01:48:33,627
Speaker 5: know they've got definitely some some some fighter. Yeah.

2170
01:48:33,627 --> 01:48:35,347
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about about coming up

2171
01:48:35,347 --> 01:48:37,907
Speaker 2: against against Josh Anteria. I didn't get on the other night,

2172
01:48:37,947 --> 01:48:40,067
Speaker 2: but I think I think the last time he played

2173
01:48:40,067 --> 01:48:41,387
Speaker 2: at Eden Park he might have scored a goal for

2174
01:48:41,427 --> 01:48:44,627
Speaker 2: the Phoenix. So I'm sure he's relishing the opportunity to

2175
01:48:44,667 --> 01:48:46,787
Speaker 2: get on, just as you'll be looking forward to the

2176
01:48:47,147 --> 01:48:48,667
Speaker 2: chance to stop him from doing so.

2177
01:48:48,827 --> 01:48:51,987
Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, for sure, Josh, he's a good line.

2178
01:48:52,027 --> 01:48:54,187
Speaker 5: But you know, once once we crossed that white line,

2179
01:48:54,747 --> 01:48:58,787
Speaker 5: you know we've we'll do anything to qualify. But yeah,

2180
01:48:58,827 --> 01:49:00,787
Speaker 5: hopefully he doesn't do what he did last time he

2181
01:49:00,907 --> 01:49:02,867
Speaker 5: was here at Eden Park and hopefully we keep that

2182
01:49:03,587 --> 01:49:05,427
Speaker 5: keep that score or not.

2183
01:49:05,507 --> 01:49:07,987
Speaker 2: Conceived at the end, you would have been I think

2184
01:49:08,147 --> 01:49:10,387
Speaker 2: nine years old, when the All Whites last went to

2185
01:49:10,467 --> 01:49:12,587
Speaker 2: a World Cup in twenty teen. Do you remember watching

2186
01:49:12,707 --> 01:49:13,507
Speaker 2: any of those games?

2187
01:49:14,547 --> 01:49:14,747
Speaker 9: Yeah?

2188
01:49:14,867 --> 01:49:15,947
Speaker 5: Actually it was known years old.

2189
01:49:16,227 --> 01:49:16,427
Speaker 22: I do.

2190
01:49:16,707 --> 01:49:19,587
Speaker 5: I do remember that because I was at the time.

2191
01:49:19,587 --> 01:49:20,187
Speaker 9: I was wet back.

2192
01:49:20,227 --> 01:49:23,307
Speaker 5: I was there at West Back Stadium. I was there

2193
01:49:23,347 --> 01:49:26,587
Speaker 5: with my family up in the lounge and I remember

2194
01:49:26,667 --> 01:49:31,107
Speaker 5: that I was all dressed up and white. Yeah, that

2195
01:49:31,227 --> 01:49:34,907
Speaker 5: was a great mem and hopefully we can do I

2196
01:49:34,947 --> 01:49:37,347
Speaker 5: can experience that feeling again tomorrow night.

2197
01:49:37,827 --> 01:49:44,347
Speaker 4: Any nerves, obviously, it's have nerves, but.

2198
01:49:45,067 --> 01:49:47,667
Speaker 5: I think I'm quite palm as a person, so I

2199
01:49:48,267 --> 01:49:50,387
Speaker 5: think I'm more excited than nervous.

2200
01:49:51,067 --> 01:49:52,907
Speaker 2: Well, I think everybody who turns up there tomorrow it

2201
01:49:52,907 --> 01:49:54,947
Speaker 2: will be quite excited and maybe a bit nervous as well.

2202
01:49:55,347 --> 01:49:57,507
Speaker 2: All the best mate, can't wait to be there to

2203
01:49:57,547 --> 01:49:59,307
Speaker 2: see you make the final push towards the World Cup

2204
01:49:59,347 --> 01:50:01,227
Speaker 2: next year. Thanks for the chat, cheers, it was a

2205
01:50:01,267 --> 01:50:04,387
Speaker 2: pleasant thank you, No, thank you. Letby Cacacci, vice captain

2206
01:50:04,427 --> 01:50:06,947
Speaker 2: of the side, also standing by on whole as head

2207
01:50:06,987 --> 01:50:10,627
Speaker 2: coach Darren Baisley base. Thanks for taking the call. Has

2208
01:50:10,667 --> 01:50:13,347
Speaker 2: everyone come through Friday night? Okay, Yeah, you've got a

2209
01:50:13,347 --> 01:50:15,147
Speaker 2: full squad to choose from for tomorrow.

2210
01:50:16,107 --> 01:50:18,747
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've Yeah, we've got a full squad. Everyone's gone

2211
01:50:18,787 --> 01:50:22,547
Speaker 6: into the recoveries. You know, Eli's got a little shoulder

2212
01:50:22,787 --> 01:50:25,067
Speaker 6: that we're monitoring at the moment that you know, from

2213
01:50:25,147 --> 01:50:27,507
Speaker 6: that fall that he had on the on the pits,

2214
01:50:27,627 --> 01:50:29,907
Speaker 6: So he's probably the one that's we're just sort of

2215
01:50:29,987 --> 01:50:32,427
Speaker 6: monitoring at the moment. But yeah, everybody else straight into

2216
01:50:32,467 --> 01:50:34,187
Speaker 6: recovery and we're in a good place.

2217
01:50:34,547 --> 01:50:37,227
Speaker 2: They say you shouldn't change your winning side. Will it

2218
01:50:37,667 --> 01:50:41,667
Speaker 2: likely be largely the same eleven that starts tomorrow night?

2219
01:50:42,427 --> 01:50:45,947
Speaker 6: Oh, we we went obviouslyas into the recovery yesterday and

2220
01:50:46,027 --> 01:50:48,627
Speaker 6: then we'll train this afternoon and make some decisions at

2221
01:50:48,667 --> 01:50:51,867
Speaker 6: training and just after training around seeing how everybody is,

2222
01:50:52,267 --> 01:50:54,267
Speaker 6: you know, post the game and post the recovery.

2223
01:50:54,947 --> 01:50:58,027
Speaker 2: How different a threat do you perceive New Caledonia to

2224
01:50:58,147 --> 01:51:00,547
Speaker 2: be to you compared to Fiji the other night.

2225
01:51:01,707 --> 01:51:04,307
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think they're slightly different. You know, they've got

2226
01:51:04,347 --> 01:51:07,187
Speaker 6: some really creative players, some flair, you know, they've got

2227
01:51:07,267 --> 01:51:09,867
Speaker 6: some threats. They're going to probably be a counter attack

2228
01:51:10,427 --> 01:51:13,947
Speaker 6: threat as well. So yeah, they are similar, but got

2229
01:51:14,027 --> 01:51:16,147
Speaker 6: some slight variances in.

2230
01:51:16,187 --> 01:51:18,387
Speaker 2: As far as the way you'll approach the game, Bays.

2231
01:51:18,747 --> 01:51:21,027
Speaker 2: You know the early goal the other night was was crucial.

2232
01:51:21,387 --> 01:51:23,067
Speaker 2: You're looking to get on the front foot nice and

2233
01:51:23,107 --> 01:51:24,947
Speaker 2: early against New Caledonia as well.

2234
01:51:25,867 --> 01:51:28,387
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely. You know we always every game we play,

2235
01:51:28,467 --> 01:51:31,267
Speaker 6: try and try and start strong, get on the front foot,

2236
01:51:31,387 --> 01:51:32,947
Speaker 6: be positive and play our game.

2237
01:51:33,267 --> 01:51:36,027
Speaker 2: Yeah, how are your nerves and emotions today?

2238
01:51:36,347 --> 01:51:38,427
Speaker 6: I'm enjoying it. You know, I've got full confidence in

2239
01:51:38,507 --> 01:51:41,707
Speaker 6: the boys, so I'm very lucky with what we have disposal,

2240
01:51:41,787 --> 01:51:43,867
Speaker 6: and you know, I just get to sit and watch

2241
01:51:43,907 --> 01:51:45,907
Speaker 6: them play, so I'm in a great place.

2242
01:51:46,147 --> 01:51:49,627
Speaker 2: And I must admit you always look very calm on

2243
01:51:49,747 --> 01:51:53,227
Speaker 2: the sideline. Is that just a poker face or are

2244
01:51:53,267 --> 01:51:54,187
Speaker 2: you actually pretty calm?

2245
01:51:55,387 --> 01:51:58,427
Speaker 6: Now? Pretty calm makes say we keep our emotions pretty

2246
01:51:58,547 --> 01:52:01,827
Speaker 6: pretty level. It's just a pleasure working with these lads.

2247
01:52:01,827 --> 01:52:03,187
Speaker 6: And you know, when we get to sit and watch

2248
01:52:03,267 --> 01:52:05,547
Speaker 6: them play that type of football, it's you know, most

2249
01:52:05,547 --> 01:52:07,827
Speaker 6: of the time me and TONI are just sitting watching

2250
01:52:07,827 --> 01:52:10,147
Speaker 6: and enjoying it. That's great stuff.

2251
01:52:10,507 --> 01:52:12,307
Speaker 2: Well, all the best for the rest of their preparations.

2252
01:52:12,427 --> 01:52:14,667
Speaker 2: Base look forward to tomorrow night and seeing if you

2253
01:52:14,707 --> 01:52:16,787
Speaker 2: can make history with the All Whites once again.

2254
01:52:16,987 --> 01:52:19,227
Speaker 6: To Maam chos Pliny speak soon now speak so and

2255
01:52:19,307 --> 01:52:19,707
Speaker 6: Darren thanks.

2256
01:52:19,707 --> 01:52:22,707
Speaker 2: Indeed Darren basically head coach of the All Whites with

2257
01:52:22,867 --> 01:52:26,867
Speaker 2: Libby Cacacci his vice captain. Before that seven o'clock kickoff

2258
01:52:26,907 --> 01:52:30,867
Speaker 2: tomorrow night, Eden Park, massive crowd expected. Last I heard

2259
01:52:30,907 --> 01:52:34,747
Speaker 2: it was tracking well north of thirty thousand there tomorrow night,

2260
01:52:35,027 --> 01:52:37,667
Speaker 2: heading up into the mid thirty thousands. Set to be

2261
01:52:37,707 --> 01:52:41,227
Speaker 2: a wonderful occasion, a chance to watch New Zealand go

2262
01:52:41,427 --> 01:52:44,347
Speaker 2: to a World Cup or certainly earned qualification for that.

2263
01:52:45,027 --> 01:52:47,227
Speaker 2: We had the All Whites of nineteen eighty two. They

2264
01:52:47,547 --> 01:52:51,067
Speaker 2: punched their ticket in Singapore. Of course, the twenty ten

2265
01:52:51,147 --> 01:52:54,587
Speaker 2: All Whites did it against bah Rain in Wellington in

2266
01:52:54,627 --> 01:52:57,147
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. So for just the third time

2267
01:52:57,707 --> 01:53:01,627
Speaker 2: New Zealand can earn direct entry into Canern entry anyway

2268
01:53:01,747 --> 01:53:05,387
Speaker 2: into a World Cup by beating New Caledonia tomorrow night.

2269
01:53:05,467 --> 01:53:08,107
Speaker 2: New Caledonia they know that if they win the match,

2270
01:53:08,427 --> 01:53:10,427
Speaker 2: they're after the World Cup for the very first time.

2271
01:53:10,507 --> 01:53:14,427
Speaker 2: Seven o'clock kick off tomorrow night at Eden Park, coming up,

2272
01:53:14,467 --> 01:53:16,187
Speaker 2: twenty to three. We'll take a break, come back and

2273
01:53:16,547 --> 01:53:20,267
Speaker 2: head back to motorsport and our top female rally driver,

2274
01:53:20,747 --> 01:53:25,107
Speaker 2: Emma Gilmore She's involved in an event in Dunedin this weekend.

2275
01:53:25,507 --> 01:53:28,307
Speaker 2: Talk to her about that and also about her career,

2276
01:53:28,547 --> 01:53:31,827
Speaker 2: including being the first ever full time female factory driver

2277
01:53:32,027 --> 01:53:33,947
Speaker 2: with McLaren Emma Gilmore.

2278
01:53:33,987 --> 01:53:37,867
Speaker 1: After this you be the TMO have your say on

2279
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Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason

2280
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2281
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Speaker 1: News Dogs.

2282
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Speaker 2: They'd be seventeen to three. The Airburn Classic is on

2283
01:53:49,347 --> 01:53:51,667
Speaker 2: this weekend. It's the first year of the festival at

2284
01:53:51,747 --> 01:53:56,387
Speaker 2: Airburn and arrow Town, a mix of high end classic cars, entertainment,

2285
01:53:56,467 --> 01:54:00,067
Speaker 2: country music and dining. Around two hundred classic cars on display,

2286
01:54:00,467 --> 01:54:04,947
Speaker 2: around four thousand people expected through the gates. Female rally

2287
01:54:05,027 --> 01:54:07,907
Speaker 2: star Emma Gilmore is speaking at the event and she

2288
01:54:08,107 --> 01:54:10,907
Speaker 2: joins us between commitments. Emma, thanks for your time. What

2289
01:54:11,027 --> 01:54:13,507
Speaker 2: a career it's been for you, with hopefully more to come.

2290
01:54:13,707 --> 01:54:15,827
Speaker 2: See can we start on the present. What is your

2291
01:54:15,867 --> 01:54:17,627
Speaker 2: schedule for twenty twenty five?

2292
01:54:19,027 --> 01:54:19,707
Speaker 23: Thank you well.

2293
01:54:19,787 --> 01:54:23,267
Speaker 25: Aside from speaking at Airbourn, the Tiger Rally, which is

2294
01:54:23,307 --> 01:54:25,387
Speaker 25: the start of the New Zealand Rally Championship, is about

2295
01:54:25,427 --> 01:54:27,867
Speaker 25: to kick off, so two weeks time we will be

2296
01:54:27,987 --> 01:54:31,107
Speaker 25: rallying around Dunedin. So yeah, so just doing a full

2297
01:54:31,187 --> 01:54:34,787
Speaker 25: New Zealand Championship program this year. Nothing overseas.

2298
01:54:35,107 --> 01:54:38,347
Speaker 2: You were third overall in last year's New Zealand Rally Championship,

2299
01:54:38,387 --> 01:54:40,267
Speaker 2: a good result. How do you reflect on twenty twenty

2300
01:54:40,307 --> 01:54:41,267
Speaker 2: four in general terms?

2301
01:54:42,147 --> 01:54:43,827
Speaker 25: Yeah, it was a bit of a tough here.

2302
01:54:43,907 --> 01:54:44,147
Speaker 12: Really.

2303
01:54:45,027 --> 01:54:47,907
Speaker 25: I had a massive crash when I finished rating with

2304
01:54:48,027 --> 01:54:50,347
Speaker 25: McLaren in twenty three and it left me with a

2305
01:54:50,387 --> 01:54:54,307
Speaker 25: pretty bad head injury and compassion, so I was still

2306
01:54:54,427 --> 01:54:57,427
Speaker 25: pretty average really when the season started last year. So

2307
01:54:58,387 --> 01:55:01,147
Speaker 25: I was really proud that we were able to do

2308
01:55:01,307 --> 01:55:03,187
Speaker 25: the full season and by the end of the year

2309
01:55:03,227 --> 01:55:06,307
Speaker 25: I was feeling fully healthy and being a lot more competitive,

2310
01:55:06,507 --> 01:55:07,907
Speaker 25: So yes, so it was a bit of it. It

2311
01:55:07,947 --> 01:55:10,267
Speaker 25: was a bit of a challenge last year overcoming that,

2312
01:55:10,507 --> 01:55:13,027
Speaker 25: so yeah, so super stoked to be starting the season

2313
01:55:13,147 --> 01:55:16,067
Speaker 25: healthy and with a bit more experience under my belt

2314
01:55:16,107 --> 01:55:17,707
Speaker 25: in this car and yeah, ready to go.

2315
01:55:18,227 --> 01:55:20,947
Speaker 2: How much trepidation was there about getting back into the

2316
01:55:20,987 --> 01:55:22,427
Speaker 2: car after such a bad accident.

2317
01:55:24,467 --> 01:55:25,027
Speaker 25: There was a lot.

2318
01:55:25,187 --> 01:55:25,387
Speaker 5: It was.

2319
01:55:25,547 --> 01:55:27,347
Speaker 25: It was a real because you've got that time to

2320
01:55:27,467 --> 01:55:31,587
Speaker 25: reflect as well, you know, head injuries and concussions for

2321
01:55:31,667 --> 01:55:34,227
Speaker 25: those that have experienced them know how tough they can be.

2322
01:55:34,547 --> 01:55:36,587
Speaker 25: And you know, I al really had a lot of

2323
01:55:36,627 --> 01:55:38,307
Speaker 25: time to reflect, to think, gosh, do I want to,

2324
01:55:38,907 --> 01:55:40,547
Speaker 25: you know, have to go through this again if something

2325
01:55:40,587 --> 01:55:43,387
Speaker 25: happened again, you know, what what do I want? And

2326
01:55:43,987 --> 01:55:47,027
Speaker 25: I think, you know, for me, rallying has always been

2327
01:55:47,067 --> 01:55:50,027
Speaker 25: my passion. It's what I love doing, and I feel

2328
01:55:50,067 --> 01:55:53,707
Speaker 25: really comfortable and safe when I'm rallying. It was the

2329
01:55:53,827 --> 01:55:56,827
Speaker 25: racing that I was doing overseas, where you're racing quite

2330
01:55:56,947 --> 01:56:01,427
Speaker 25: unpredictable vehicles on quite unpredictable terrain, and I think if

2331
01:56:01,507 --> 01:56:03,827
Speaker 25: I'd had to go back and race those I think

2332
01:56:03,907 --> 01:56:05,587
Speaker 25: that would have been a question where I probably would

2333
01:56:05,587 --> 01:56:08,627
Speaker 25: have said, no, I'll I won't do that. But rallying,

2334
01:56:08,707 --> 01:56:11,387
Speaker 25: I was still very comfortable and felt that my passion

2335
01:56:11,667 --> 01:56:11,867
Speaker 25: and my.

2336
01:56:11,907 --> 01:56:12,947
Speaker 17: Love for it was still there.

2337
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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about your time with McLaren. In twenty

2338
01:56:16,307 --> 01:56:19,667
Speaker 2: twenty two, you became McLaren's first female factory driver in

2339
01:56:19,707 --> 01:56:23,147
Speaker 2: their Extreme E category. Can you tell us about that experience.

2340
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Speaker 25: I mean, gosh, the plus is still well outweighed the crash.

2341
01:56:27,587 --> 01:56:30,187
Speaker 25: I mean, being part of McLaren, being part of McLaren's

2342
01:56:30,227 --> 01:56:34,067
Speaker 25: history is just something really special with Bruce McLaren being

2343
01:56:34,147 --> 01:56:38,467
Speaker 25: in New Zealander and you know, the legacy that he's

2344
01:56:38,587 --> 01:56:41,587
Speaker 25: created is just amazing. And you know, I think there's

2345
01:56:41,627 --> 01:56:44,347
Speaker 25: going to be some beautiful McLaren's on display this weekend,

2346
01:56:45,307 --> 01:56:48,947
Speaker 25: so you know, just being able to see also what

2347
01:56:49,347 --> 01:56:51,707
Speaker 25: McLaren did. You know, in twenty twenty two, they were

2348
01:56:51,747 --> 01:56:54,507
Speaker 25: doing pretty poorly in the Formula one Championship. You know

2349
01:56:54,627 --> 01:56:56,867
Speaker 25: that had changes of leadership, changes of drivers, they were

2350
01:56:56,907 --> 01:56:59,467
Speaker 25: trying to get everything in place to improve. And then

2351
01:56:59,907 --> 01:57:01,747
Speaker 25: to see what they did last year in twenty twenty

2352
01:57:01,787 --> 01:57:05,827
Speaker 25: four to win the IF one Constructors Championship, it was

2353
01:57:05,867 --> 01:57:08,427
Speaker 25: super to have been able to witness that and just

2354
01:57:08,507 --> 01:57:10,547
Speaker 25: see how a great team works. You know, there was

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01:57:10,627 --> 01:57:13,627
Speaker 25: the passion there they were putting all the processes in place,

2356
01:57:13,987 --> 01:57:16,627
Speaker 25: and then to see it all come to fruition last

2357
01:57:16,707 --> 01:57:19,747
Speaker 25: season was very cool. So yeah, to have been able

2358
01:57:19,827 --> 01:57:21,707
Speaker 25: to see that and then you know, get to go

2359
01:57:21,787 --> 01:57:24,107
Speaker 25: to Formula one events. You know, I got to meet

2360
01:57:24,147 --> 01:57:26,267
Speaker 25: the King, which was just something that you would never

2361
01:57:26,347 --> 01:57:29,507
Speaker 25: imagine getting to do. There was just so many moments.

2362
01:57:30,107 --> 01:57:32,467
Speaker 25: You know, probably my highlight would have been competing at

2363
01:57:32,467 --> 01:57:36,307
Speaker 25: the good Would Festival where I got to drive you know,

2364
01:57:36,547 --> 01:57:39,747
Speaker 25: F one gtr which is a phenomenal vehicle and this

2365
01:57:39,827 --> 01:57:42,507
Speaker 25: one had just sold to America for thirty million pounds,

2366
01:57:42,627 --> 01:57:45,267
Speaker 25: so it was there were so many pinched me moments.

2367
01:57:46,027 --> 01:57:48,347
Speaker 25: Sometimes I still think did that really happen? As I,

2368
01:57:48,507 --> 01:57:50,587
Speaker 25: you know, sit here in Dunedin in my car dealership.

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01:57:51,307 --> 01:57:53,387
Speaker 25: You know, it seems like a lifetime.

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01:57:53,027 --> 01:57:57,227
Speaker 2: Away as the first female driver at mclaar. And how

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01:57:57,267 --> 01:57:57,987
Speaker 2: were you accepted?

2372
01:57:59,027 --> 01:58:02,307
Speaker 25: Yeah, usually it was very very cool. You know, Zach

2373
01:58:02,467 --> 01:58:05,507
Speaker 25: who's the who's the boss at McLaren. He's very much

2374
01:58:05,867 --> 01:58:09,707
Speaker 25: He's very proud of the heritage of McLaren, you know,

2375
01:58:09,827 --> 01:58:13,867
Speaker 25: with Bruce's legacy there. So being the first female driver

2376
01:58:14,067 --> 01:58:16,947
Speaker 25: and being from New Zealand, it was a really nice synergy.

2377
01:58:17,187 --> 01:58:21,067
Speaker 25: And you know, especially the woman within the McLaren factory

2378
01:58:21,107 --> 01:58:24,987
Speaker 25: and that having a woman represent the brand was really

2379
01:58:25,067 --> 01:58:28,347
Speaker 25: well received. And then since that time they now have

2380
01:58:28,667 --> 01:58:31,707
Speaker 25: the IF One Academy, which is an opportunity for young

2381
01:58:31,907 --> 01:58:34,987
Speaker 25: if one type races so circuit races to also get

2382
01:58:35,027 --> 01:58:37,707
Speaker 25: involved with the McLaren team. So there's a lot more

2383
01:58:37,827 --> 01:58:40,427
Speaker 25: opportunities happening with the female side.

2384
01:58:40,267 --> 01:58:44,547
Speaker 2: Of things, and regardless of gender, Emma going into such

2385
01:58:44,587 --> 01:58:50,267
Speaker 2: a storied franchise as McLaren, was that in any way daunting?

2386
01:58:51,387 --> 01:58:54,227
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hugely.

2387
01:58:54,427 --> 01:58:56,707
Speaker 25: I've been Gosh. I remember the first week, and you know,

2388
01:58:56,827 --> 01:59:01,067
Speaker 25: the pressure I felt was massive, you know, because all

2389
01:59:01,107 --> 01:59:03,347
Speaker 25: of a sudden you're on the world stage and you're

2390
01:59:03,387 --> 01:59:07,507
Speaker 25: representing a brand that you know, is it's synonymous with

2391
01:59:07,707 --> 01:59:10,507
Speaker 25: you know, with motorsport, like there's not many names Biggers,

2392
01:59:10,627 --> 01:59:13,067
Speaker 25: So you know, there was a lot of pressure that

2393
01:59:13,187 --> 01:59:15,987
Speaker 25: came with it. But you know, I was just so

2394
01:59:16,227 --> 01:59:18,787
Speaker 25: so proud and privileged to have had that opportunity.

2395
01:59:19,107 --> 01:59:19,507
Speaker 21: So good.

2396
01:59:19,587 --> 01:59:22,307
Speaker 2: Well, at the moment, of course, we're cheering on Liam Lawson,

2397
01:59:22,427 --> 01:59:25,827
Speaker 2: challenging start for him to his full time F one career.

2398
01:59:25,907 --> 01:59:27,587
Speaker 2: Have you been keeping an eye on Liam?

2399
01:59:28,427 --> 01:59:30,707
Speaker 25: Yeah, for sure. I mean I think it's amazing that

2400
01:59:30,827 --> 01:59:33,947
Speaker 25: we have Liam competing, you know, alongside Max with stuff

2401
01:59:33,987 --> 01:59:36,587
Speaker 25: and the Formula One. It's you know, I think I

2402
01:59:36,627 --> 01:59:38,547
Speaker 25: felt really sorry for Liam. I thought it was a

2403
01:59:38,707 --> 01:59:42,347
Speaker 25: very very tough opening round for him, you know, not

2404
01:59:42,427 --> 01:59:45,707
Speaker 25: getting that seat time it's just crucial. I mean he's

2405
01:59:45,747 --> 01:59:48,187
Speaker 25: already limited on seat time because he's a rookie to

2406
01:59:48,267 --> 01:59:50,627
Speaker 25: the series and then to miss a whole hour of

2407
01:59:50,747 --> 01:59:52,987
Speaker 25: track running when he missed out on the pre practice

2408
01:59:52,987 --> 01:59:56,987
Speaker 25: three session, that was you know, hugely damaging to him

2409
01:59:57,027 --> 01:59:59,307
Speaker 25: and his chances. But then you know, to then have

2410
01:59:59,427 --> 02:00:01,507
Speaker 25: the rain on the Sunday, it was like, man, it

2411
02:00:01,547 --> 02:00:04,427
Speaker 25: couldn't have got much harder for him. So I think

2412
02:00:04,467 --> 02:00:06,947
Speaker 25: he did a really good job, and I think considering

2413
02:00:06,987 --> 02:00:08,667
Speaker 25: all the things he was up against, and I think

2414
02:00:08,707 --> 02:00:11,107
Speaker 25: we'll really see him fly this season. So I can't

2415
02:00:11,147 --> 02:00:12,467
Speaker 25: wait to be sharing.

2416
02:00:12,267 --> 02:00:12,827
Speaker 4: Them on Yeah.

2417
02:00:12,867 --> 02:00:15,227
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we're all the same. We're all absolutely the same.

2418
02:00:15,467 --> 02:00:17,627
Speaker 2: Now back to you, Emma. I know that obviously you've

2419
02:00:17,707 --> 02:00:21,027
Speaker 2: made your name as a driver, but I know that

2420
02:00:21,187 --> 02:00:24,067
Speaker 2: a questrian was your your first love. So I had

2421
02:00:24,227 --> 02:00:26,547
Speaker 2: to go from four legs to four wheels.

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02:00:28,507 --> 02:00:31,987
Speaker 25: Yeah, yeah, still, you know, horse riding. I still take

2423
02:00:32,027 --> 02:00:34,187
Speaker 25: my head off to those questions because you know, it's

2424
02:00:34,227 --> 02:00:37,587
Speaker 25: a really gutsy sport, the three day of venting and stuff.

2425
02:00:37,667 --> 02:00:40,987
Speaker 25: But yeah, I started when I was still horse riding.

2426
02:00:40,987 --> 02:00:43,427
Speaker 25: I started by navigating in the rally car because my

2427
02:00:43,547 --> 02:00:46,547
Speaker 25: sister and my cousin had started rallying, so that sort

2428
02:00:46,587 --> 02:00:48,867
Speaker 25: of was where the door got opened for me and motorsport,

2429
02:00:49,067 --> 02:00:51,667
Speaker 25: but the horse riding, it sort of all came to

2430
02:00:51,747 --> 02:00:53,947
Speaker 25: a head one day when I had a young horse

2431
02:00:54,027 --> 02:00:56,027
Speaker 25: that he didn't want to do something last of him,

2432
02:00:56,027 --> 02:00:58,987
Speaker 25: and he started rearing up, and I jumped off because

2433
02:00:58,987 --> 02:01:00,827
Speaker 25: I was scared. And then it sort of dawned on

2434
02:01:00,907 --> 02:01:02,507
Speaker 25: me and I was like, hmm, I don't know if

2435
02:01:02,507 --> 02:01:03,147
Speaker 25: I really want.

2436
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Speaker 4: To get back on.

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02:01:03,827 --> 02:01:06,267
Speaker 25: Yes, So that was how it kind of came to

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02:01:06,467 --> 02:01:09,627
Speaker 25: an end in a paddock and yeah, and then once

2439
02:01:09,667 --> 02:01:12,347
Speaker 25: I had to go in the driver's seat, it all

2440
02:01:12,427 --> 02:01:14,027
Speaker 25: went from there. I was just I was hooked. You

2441
02:01:14,067 --> 02:01:17,267
Speaker 25: know the buzz that you have driving a rally car

2442
02:01:17,387 --> 02:01:19,947
Speaker 25: on gravel, you know, with its sliding and moving from

2443
02:01:20,027 --> 02:01:23,147
Speaker 25: corner to corner dancing, It is like the best feeling

2444
02:01:23,187 --> 02:01:25,587
Speaker 25: in the world. And it felt very similar to horse riding,

2445
02:01:25,707 --> 02:01:29,027
Speaker 25: but for me, a more controllable in a more safe environment.

2446
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Speaker 2: I bet you, I can imagine that horses might have

2447
02:01:31,507 --> 02:01:33,587
Speaker 2: a mind of their own on occasion. What you've told

2448
02:01:33,667 --> 02:01:36,587
Speaker 2: us about what is ahead of you in twenty twenty five,

2449
02:01:36,907 --> 02:01:39,347
Speaker 2: what about beyond that? Emma is rarely driving something you

2450
02:01:39,427 --> 02:01:41,667
Speaker 2: want to be doing for for quite some time, yet

2451
02:01:42,507 --> 02:01:42,987
Speaker 2: I think so.

2452
02:01:43,307 --> 02:01:46,467
Speaker 25: I think it's something that as long as I love

2453
02:01:46,547 --> 02:01:48,867
Speaker 25: to do it and the opportunity is there, then it's

2454
02:01:48,867 --> 02:01:51,147
Speaker 25: something that I will continue to do. I've been very

2455
02:01:51,227 --> 02:01:55,227
Speaker 25: fortunate that I've had amazing partnerships and sponsorships throughout my career.

2456
02:01:55,787 --> 02:01:57,827
Speaker 25: Vantage Windows and Doors have been with me for every

2457
02:01:57,867 --> 02:02:00,587
Speaker 25: twenty years. So having a New Zealand company like that

2458
02:02:00,867 --> 02:02:04,667
Speaker 25: that allows me to follow my passion is super cool.

2459
02:02:05,587 --> 02:02:07,427
Speaker 25: And you know, I still would love to become the

2460
02:02:07,427 --> 02:02:11,187
Speaker 25: New Zealand Rally Champion. That's definitely still on my bucket list.

2461
02:02:11,387 --> 02:02:14,107
Speaker 25: But you know what we get to do. I feel

2462
02:02:14,227 --> 02:02:16,947
Speaker 25: we're really really lucky and as long as that opportunity

2463
02:02:17,067 --> 02:02:19,787
Speaker 25: is there having a road to myself and driving it

2464
02:02:19,867 --> 02:02:22,507
Speaker 25: as fast as possible, I think I'll still be lining

2465
02:02:22,587 --> 02:02:22,947
Speaker 25: up to do it.

2466
02:02:23,107 --> 02:02:25,507
Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff. Look forward to seeing what the future holds

2467
02:02:25,547 --> 02:02:27,267
Speaker 2: for you. Emma, thanks for joining us, Thanks for taking

2468
02:02:27,307 --> 02:02:30,267
Speaker 2: time out of your commitments at Airburn in Arrowtown over

2469
02:02:30,307 --> 02:02:32,587
Speaker 2: the weekend. Hope that goes really well for you as well.

2470
02:02:32,667 --> 02:02:36,307
Speaker 2: That's Emma Gilmore, Female Rally Star. It's eight to three

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Speaker 2: News talksb.

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Speaker 1: The School from the trag Field and the Court on

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Speaker 1: your home Lord weekends for it where's Jason Vine.

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Speaker 2: News Talks NB five to three, Just updating you on

2475
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Speaker 2: the cricket which is underway at Mount Monganui. The White

2476
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Speaker 2: Funds up against Australia ahead of the Black Caps against Pakistan.

2477
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Speaker 2: Australia everyone the toss and the women's game elected to

2478
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Speaker 2: bat first and they've started pretty well. Twenty two without

2479
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Speaker 2: last in the first two over as Beth Mooney and

2480
02:03:00,907 --> 02:03:03,467
Speaker 2: Georgia vol taking a liking to the bowling of New

2481
02:03:03,547 --> 02:03:05,867
Speaker 2: Zealand a boundary off the second ball of the third

2482
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Speaker 2: over as well. Oh so twenty six without loss. Australia

2483
02:03:08,827 --> 02:03:11,947
Speaker 2: batting first against the White Ferns. That is us for

2484
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