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Speaker 2: B Borning and Welcome Today. The rights Cap What it means?

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Speaker 2: Will you notice Centaer's twenty twenty nine So far away

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Speaker 2: you don't actually care? New insight into how much we

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Speaker 2: love our Houses looks like a coup and Netball New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: David Williams back for a catch up after Raycats from

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Speaker 2: Field and France. Rob Little is in.

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Speaker 3: The UK bos.

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Speaker 2: Tasking well, Welcome to Tuesday seven past six. One of

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Speaker 2: the vagaries of MMP most likely is going to play

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Speaker 2: out again next year. This is the overhang. The Labour Party,

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Speaker 2: at their conference over the weekend, launched a full out

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Speaker 2: pitch for a reclaim of all seven seats they currently

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Speaker 2: hold one. The rest belong to the various factions of

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Speaker 2: the Maori Party, which might be why attacker to Ferris

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Speaker 2: suggested that Labour should be smart and come to some

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Speaker 2: sort of arrangement, the arrangement being the Maray Party or

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Speaker 2: factions or splintered aspects of it, take the seats, get

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Speaker 2: the overhang and therefore make it mathematically harder for the

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Speaker 2: government to keep on being the government.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Pharah said that because he's afraid he can't win

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Speaker 2: his seat as an independent nowadays. But think about it

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Speaker 2: from Labour's point of view, whether they win those seats

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Speaker 2: or not doesn't change their overall haul. If you get

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Speaker 2: thirty percent of the vote, they get thirty percent of

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Speaker 2: the seats. When the Marory seat, they merely get subtracted

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Speaker 2: from the list delocation, whereas the Maori Party aren't going

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Speaker 2: to get the size of vote to justify their seats,

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Speaker 2: hence the overhang. Personally, if I was running the world,

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Speaker 2: the overhang would be banned. I mean, how winning an

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Speaker 2: electric gets you a discount on the threshold. I've got

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Speaker 2: no idea, But that's why we have one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty three MPs. So do the math split one twenty three.

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Speaker 2: You need sixty two as opposed to the sixty one normally.

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Speaker 2: Could the one be the difference in a tight race?

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Speaker 2: You bet it could. Also, deals are not new to MMP,

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Speaker 2: so it's not like Labour look desperate. In fact, given

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Speaker 2: their performance in the Auckland by election the other day,

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Speaker 2: they may save themselves some embarrassment. But equally is the

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Speaker 2: Maori Party in any sort of shape to believe they

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Speaker 2: can stand any chance when judgment day arrives about this

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Speaker 2: time next year. Deal or no deal is the question.

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Speaker 2: Labour seems to have answered it. So if they win

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Speaker 2: and wipe out or damage the coalition partner, who then

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Speaker 2: is the real winner?

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Speaker 1: Why news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Let's start in the UK, where the PM is working

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Speaker 2: as tail off defending his chancellor from relegation. She must

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Speaker 2: led the nation over the state of the budget.

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Speaker 5: Yes, of course all the other figures have to be

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Speaker 5: taken into account, but we started the process with significantly

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Speaker 5: less than we would otherwise have had.

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Speaker 2: A hada he works the more Keemy loves it.

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Speaker 6: We have this woman on video saying all sorts of

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Speaker 6: things after the election, after the last budget, during the

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Speaker 6: last budget, things that are clearly categorically not true. She

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Speaker 6: has lied and lied and lied again. I think that

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Speaker 6: she put up tacks when she didn't need to. She

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Speaker 6: should reside.

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Speaker 2: Also in British politics, the story of former minister Tulip Sedik,

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Speaker 2: who's been sentenced to jail in Bangladesh. It tebra Land

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Speaker 2: deal not that she is admitting there.

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Speaker 7: I feel like I'm in some sort of Kafka's nightmare

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Speaker 7: where I'm carrying on doing my day job. But on

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Speaker 7: the other hand, I'm apparently being convicted in Bangladesh, and

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Speaker 7: the only reason I know I'm being convicted is because

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Speaker 7: I read it in the newspapers.

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Speaker 2: And then to the football, we're MP's acquizzing the coppers

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Speaker 2: over this mccabi Jewish football fake match band mess thing.

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Speaker 8: Does it not point to your due diligence for you

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Speaker 8: to include a fictitious match or the internet? Does that

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Speaker 8: not point to something rotten in the state of the

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Speaker 8: way you were doing it? If you could, that could

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Speaker 8: creep through.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it does.

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Speaker 2: No, no stateside couple of things. So one man, Gianni's

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Speaker 2: back and caught. His supporters are there with the protest.

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Speaker 2: We have to ask what other ways can the American

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Speaker 2: public communicate with the healthcare system?

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Speaker 4: Because we lobby, we protest, we speak to our legislators.

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Speaker 2: And it was only this death that has put the

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Speaker 2: healthcare system under so much scrutiny. With logic, anyone to

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Speaker 2: the higgsys blow up those Narco's routine. He seems to

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Speaker 9: I don't know that that happened, and Pe said he

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Speaker 9: did not want them.

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Speaker 3: He didn't even know what.

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Speaker 10: People were talking about.

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Speaker 11: So we'll look, we'll look into it. But no, I

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Speaker 11: wouldn't have wanted that.

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Speaker 10: Nine a second strike.

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Speaker 2: Nothing to see here. Finally, the Cornish language, known locally

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Speaker 2: as Kennewick, is only spoken by about five hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty seven people these days as their main language. There

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Speaker 2: are about five thousand others that say they got a

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Speaker 2: basic tasker under a charter that Britain signed up to.

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Speaker 2: Languages that are protected must have measures adopted to make

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Speaker 2: sure it doesn't disappear, so it will now be used

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Speaker 2: in things like court cases in Cornwall alongside English. As

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Speaker 2: well as the judge speaking of his book as Near

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Speaker 2: as the World in nineties, what can exacally about the

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Speaker 2: global economy? Factory activity in China missed again, so they

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Speaker 2: don't seem to be able to dig themselves out of

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Speaker 2: the quagmire. And having told you that India yesterday GDP

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Speaker 2: this morning's blown everybody away. Because the poll was expecting

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Speaker 2: three point one percent. Did it come in at three

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Speaker 2: point one percent? No, it did not. It came in

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Speaker 2: at zero zero point four percent. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: The OBR guy in Britain's just resigned. That's the budget

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Speaker 2: responsibilities to go leaked the budget and now really so

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Speaker 2: speaking of the UK, they've done a deal Labor Night

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Speaker 2: with the US. They've agreed to keep tariffs on UK

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Speaker 2: pharmaceuticals at zero, which is good for companies like GSK

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Speaker 2: and Astrazenica. Of course, Trumpet threatened one hundred percent, so

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Speaker 2: they cut of the ILK. Fifteen past six, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: and partners. Rauquella her, good morning, Good morning, Mic Now

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Speaker 2: building since consents are we building? Is there a trend?

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Speaker 11: I think so good.

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Speaker 12: So we've got this kind of weird countdown to Christmas, now,

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Speaker 12: don't we wear We've only got a couple of weeks

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Speaker 12: which usually last late December of most of January. So

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Speaker 12: And I've been keeping a cheeky little eye on building consents, Mike,

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Speaker 12: because there has been a modest improvement going on for

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Speaker 12: the last three month, and data release yesterday supports that

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Speaker 12: improving trend. Just before you get all excited, though, you

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Speaker 12: just not improving a great rate of knots. You had

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Speaker 12: up six point two percent on a similar period last year.

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Speaker 12: The key observation here is that confidence seems to have

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Speaker 12: returned into that higher density space, so that space we're

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Speaker 12: to the end of October twenty five, you had just

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Speaker 12: under fifteen half thousand townhouses consented. That's up almost ten percent.

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Speaker 12: Twenty six hundred and forty nine apartments. Now, that's up

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Speaker 12: very nature it's sort of lumpy. The one that's interesting

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Speaker 12: here's retirement home consents.

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Speaker 11: They're down thirty percent.

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Speaker 12: I think that's going to be problematic at some point

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Speaker 12: because we're not building these things.

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Speaker 11: When we do get a bit of a switch in the.

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Speaker 12: Residential property sector, people start to want to sell their

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Speaker 12: a story for late next year. Standalone consents only at

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Speaker 12: one point nine percent, so it seems to me there's

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Speaker 11: Of a psychological shift here.

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Speaker 12: And here we go Mike Auckland Orphan's leading the charge

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Speaker 12: on those multi unit ones accounts for half the left

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Speaker 12: it up. We're trend is in place. Assume we'll still

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Speaker 12: get month on month volatility. The October month three thy

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Speaker 11: Six thousand consents in these twelve months.

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Speaker 12: You go back to the boom time to October twenty two,

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Speaker 12: a significant step down. Just a quick note on non

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Speaker 12: the love yet.

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Speaker 12: The man Well, it looked like the lots of rumors

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Speaker 11: And the interesting thing in the background here.

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Speaker 12: Because we've had we've had this shift a US monetary

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Speaker 12: policy between US Montreal policy and Monty policy here because

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Speaker 12: they're all sort of talking about being a bit more

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Speaker 12: dubbish in the US now, whereas we are talking about

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Speaker 12: being a bit more hawkish through twenty twenty six. Now

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Speaker 12: there's lots of rumors circulating about the replacement Jerome Powell

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Speaker 12: in the last.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four hours.

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Speaker 11: This is a very important announcement.

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Speaker 12: This is the head of the most important central bank

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Speaker 12: in the world. Rumors suggests that Trump has selected Kevin Hassett.

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Speaker 12: He is currently Director of the National Economic Council. He

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Speaker 12: was a Trump appointee. He's previously been senior advisor on

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Speaker 12: economics to the President's got a PhD in economics from

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Speaker 12: the University of Pennsylvania. He has worked in both the

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Speaker 12: George W. Bush and Clinton edmonstrations. Most importantly, he is

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Speaker 12: seen as being a policy dove. He will tend to

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Speaker 12: favor looser monetary policy. The thing here, Mike, is that

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Speaker 12: if Trump announces this guy, Now, Powell's term ends in

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Speaker 12: May twenty six, but this guy effectively becomes the governor,

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Speaker 12: and everybody is more interested in what he's saying than

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Speaker 12: in what Powell is saying.

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Speaker 11: That just one other point right now, if he does.

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Speaker 12: Become that, you've sort of got an environment in the

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Speaker 12: economy there where that economic growth is slowing a little bit,

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Speaker 12: weakening employment figures, inflation is kind of contained.

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Speaker 11: That supports the cause for a lower Fed Fund rate.

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Speaker 12: It becomes problematic if inflation pressures start resurfacing, because he's

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Speaker 12: got a guy that actually wants to take it the

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Speaker 12: other way. So that will be fascinating to see how

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Speaker 12: that pans out.

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Speaker 2: Interesting times numbers, Please sure.

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Speaker 12: Now manufacturing ism survey over and I was quite weak

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Speaker 12: in the States. Actually they've started the day the week

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Speaker 12: in a softer tone. Forty seven four hundred and sixty

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Speaker 13: Then beat down, but I don't steal.

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Speaker 2: It's called Walk My.

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Speaker 2: The invented artist. Who doesn't it's called breaking rust an

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Speaker 2: big long term plan on rate. Simon Wats is with

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to

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Speaker 1: my the mic Hosking, Breakfast with the Defender, embraced the

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Speaker 2: Katherine short leaning time of twenty three minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 2: Just to remind of this morning of the role that

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Speaker 2: of home Ownership report shows eighty five percent of say

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Speaker 2: Eighty eight percent wanting the independence of their own space.

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Speaker 2: Steve Yukovic is the Quevy Bank CEO, and he's with us.

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Speaker 2: Steve morning to you one morning. It has always been

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Speaker 9: Yeah? I think yeah, I think it is. That's at

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Speaker 2: What about attitude to debt? To people's attitude to debt change?

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Speaker 9: I think the big change is how much people are

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Speaker 9: they want to pay it down fast. Are they thinking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get a view on a fifty year mortgage.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean that's that feels like a pretty wild idea.

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Speaker 9: I honestly don't think that in New Zealand. The market's

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Speaker 9: But you know, the advice I got when I first

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Speaker 9: as fast as you can. So I still think that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a most people do initially? Do they go

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Speaker 9: They do. Yeah, the default is pretty much twenty years.

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Speaker 9: A lot of people do twenty five. There is the

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: The number in your work that worries me, the forty

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Speaker 9: I think it's pretty rareal. I mean, getting together, you know,

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Speaker 2: So how do we juxtapose what we know is real

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Speaker 9: Look, I really dip down believe that if you know,

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Speaker 9: then that's true. If you think it's too hard, that's

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Speaker 9: I think, you know, it makes total sense. You know,

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Speaker 9: many cultures pacifica Madi, many Asian countries. You know, generations

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Speaker 9: if you think about getting together with your parents and

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Speaker 2: How big is the bank of mom and dad now

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Speaker 13: Oh, it's still huge.

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Speaker 9: I mean a massive amount of money is supported for

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Speaker 2: Now, okay, I'm getting some mail. Help me out here.

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Speaker 2: Swap rates problematic post Hawksby's announcement the other day fixed

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Speaker 9: if you're at the bottom, then when you look ahead

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Speaker 2: So now's your window to act if you want to

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Speaker 9: Spot when you look back ten years, this looks like

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Speaker 2: Good stuff to appreciate it as always Steve Yukovic the

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Speaker 2: I Prance Catherine Field, a very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate. How did the chinwag go with macrons

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Speaker 2: Zolensky and Macron.

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Speaker 14: Well, you might remember it was just two weeks ago

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Speaker 14: that Zelenski was here in Paris, and no one really

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Speaker 14: expected to see him quite as soon. But there is

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Speaker 14: a lot of concern, particularly among the Europeans, as to

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Speaker 14: just how much the US is going to demand of

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Speaker 14: Ukraine to make us his fire happen from the European

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Speaker 14: side to make let's not forget they're trying to althow

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Speaker 14: their way into these negotiations. It's been very clear that

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Speaker 14: the Russians have I think deliberately cut out Europe wanting

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Speaker 14: to sort of separate US from Europe. So they've been trying,

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Speaker 14: particularly Macro and the German Chancellor Matz, they've been trying

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Speaker 14: to get their voices heard, you know, but at the

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Speaker 14: same time look cooperative to the US efforts. So after

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Speaker 14: a day of talks, well, Macron has said that there

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Speaker 14: will be new sanctions of oil and gas and these

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Speaker 14: will be really tough.

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Speaker 11: They will be put.

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Speaker 14: More pressure on Russia. But this really is a critical time,

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Speaker 14: I think, is the message that's coming through.

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Speaker 3: We've had the Ukrainians and the.

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Speaker 14: US holding talks in Florida, but we've also and you

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Speaker 14: really see it in the body language, Mike. You see,

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Speaker 14: Zelensky is now under pressure. He's under pressure militarily with

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Speaker 14: these Russian areas, and he's under pressure because of the

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Speaker 14: corruption scandal that has now affected his chief of staff.

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Speaker 14: So we're hearing that. You know, later this week there'll

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Speaker 14: be talks between the US and so called Coalition of

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Speaker 14: the Willing. They want to clarify American participation in that.

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Speaker 14: We promise greater, greater clarity later this week. But again,

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Speaker 14: you know, the same messages coming through, Mike, that it's

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Speaker 14: up to Ukraine. Ukraine cannot be so weak at the

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Speaker 14: end of this process that it can't defend itself, and

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Speaker 14: it has to be you if you like a viable country,

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Speaker 14: it can't be left to defend itself.

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Speaker 2: Call me impatient, Catherine, but I feel like we've had

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Speaker 2: this conversation several times over and the whole thing always

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Speaker 2: seems to come back to Europe, who love to have

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Speaker 2: a meeting, but don't necessarily, you know, back it up

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Speaker 2: with anything. I mean, can if America goes forget it,

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Speaker 2: we're out. Is Europe capable of being on Ukraine side

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Speaker 2: to the point where Russia won't win?

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Speaker 14: Difficult question. Let's take it from the top on that one.

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Speaker 14: Russia will end this war when Russia want to end

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Speaker 14: the war. Europe, of course, you can't forget it is

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Speaker 14: now spending more money and sending more weapons to Ukraine

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Speaker 14: than it ever has. America is sending very little and

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Speaker 14: perhaps a lot less than the American public belief. The

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Speaker 14: problem is, might that everyone now sees that you have

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Speaker 14: this twenty eight point plan, how one sided it was,

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Speaker 14: and that has been the concern as to how much

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Speaker 14: the US and Russia are going to do to force

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Speaker 14: Ukraine and to a cease fire. The other thing is that,

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Speaker 14: and we've learned this over the last week, is just

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Speaker 14: how much of that so called twenty eight point plan

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Speaker 14: that came from Moscow, how much that also includes business

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Speaker 14: interests for the Russians and the American side inside Ukraine.

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Speaker 14: And I think that's the other thing that Scott Mind's

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Speaker 14: focused here is lack of transparency on this whole deal

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Speaker 14: and also what are the Americans going to be cooking

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Speaker 14: up behind their backs, which they might find out a

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Speaker 14: lot later.

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Speaker 2: On, right to catch up with the Katherine Catherine Field

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Speaker 2: and France this morning. Other thing in Europe, by the way,

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Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours they voted to reject

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Speaker 2: there was a tax idea that they would have a

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Speaker 2: look at the wealthy people in that particular part of

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Speaker 2: the world, And being Switzerland, there are a tremendous number

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Speaker 2: of wealthy people in that particular part of the world.

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Speaker 2: In fact, there's three hundred. The three hundred wealthiest are

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Speaker 2: worth over a trillion dollars. Anyway, the proposal was to

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Speaker 2: tax every inheritance and gift of more than fifty million

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Speaker 2: Swiss francs at fifty percent. So do we like to

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Speaker 2: tax rich people. You would think, yes, we do, will

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Speaker 2: not the Swiss, No, they don't. Seventy eight percent voted

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Speaker 2: against it, and good on them ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate News.

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Speaker 2: Talks eDV like the answer to the Bank of Mum

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Speaker 2: and Dad was interesting at shows that despite the rhetoric,

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Speaker 2: the boomer generation continues to put what they gained back

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Speaker 2: for their kids, not the selfish message from some course,

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Speaker 2: A very good point, very good point. But while we're

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Speaker 2: broadly on the subject of housing, tell you what the

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Speaker 2: ASP Housing Competent Survey, I mean, you can't argue with

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Speaker 2: the highest level fifteen years. So we're back more people

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Speaker 2: thinking it's a good time to buy. Twenty eight percent

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Speaker 2: of respondents believed it was a good time to buy

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Speaker 2: a property. It's in a sweet spot. They're saying, this

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Speaker 2: is the ap it's a sweet spot. We're seeing a

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Speaker 2: unique window of opportunity for buyers. So fifty four percent

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Speaker 2: expected home loan rates to fall further. I think the

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Speaker 2: fifty four percent are wrong. I think this is probably it.

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Speaker 2: You may get a special or two, but just one

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Speaker 2: in ten expect interest rates to rise a net seventeen

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Speaker 2: expecting prices to arrive over the next year as high

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Speaker 2: inventry continues to weigh on the market, expect house prices

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Speaker 2: to lift gradually. They're saying next year conditions likely to change.

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Speaker 2: Over twenty twenty six, a greater level of sales turnover,

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Speaker 2: the amount of stock in the market's going to reduce,

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Speaker 2: the prices will start to wedge up. It's the classic scenario.

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Speaker 2: We've not been building. Andrew gave you the numbers. We're

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Speaker 2: doing thirty something thousand con cents a year, where at

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Speaker 2: peak we're doing fifty. We're still selling through the fifty.

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Speaker 2: Once we've sold through that and we're back down to

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Speaker 2: the thirties, people are going to go hold on. There's

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Speaker 2: not as much to choose from, at which point the

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Speaker 2: prices start to write. So I think twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: is going to be pretty reasonable. But if you believe

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Speaker 2: the ASB, we're seeing a unique window of opportunity at

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Speaker 2: the moment for buyers five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Bill, the ins and the ouse. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business favor take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Of course, if you can't afford house, what you do

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Speaker 2: as you go out eating a lot, don't you with

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Speaker 2: the avocado on toast? Communal dining is back and gen

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Speaker 2: Z is loving communal dining. Gen Z well, I mean

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Speaker 2: gen z can be thirteen year olds, so they're not

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Speaker 2: going out communally dining and they see with mum and

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Speaker 2: dad eating McDonald's. So that's but I mean, yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: talking to the twenty somethings anyway. The ones behind the

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Speaker 2: survey are Rezzi, which is an online restaurant reservation company.

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Speaker 2: They've looked at dining trends this year and in the next.

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Speaker 2: Ninety percent of gen zs want to do communal dining.

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Speaker 2: They say they want the interaction. They see it a

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Speaker 2: great way to meet new people. They actually and and

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Speaker 2: all those gin Zitters who do the communal dining half

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Speaker 2: of them. So they've had interesting conversations one and three,

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Speaker 2: so they've made a new friend one and seven. One

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Speaker 2: and three is not really I mean, that's a two

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Speaker 2: out of three strike rate, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: Hey?

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Speaker 2: I like, how, yeah, I'm good? How are you good?

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Speaker 2: What are you having on the night chase?

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Speaker 4: This is this is your worst nightmare?

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Speaker 2: Isn't that worse than my worst night?

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Speaker 4: You can't You can't even imagine it.

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Speaker 2: No One and seven say they met a romantic partner.

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Speaker 2: So six out of seven times you strike out, and

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Speaker 2: you just look like a leech. Hellone, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Sixty percent of baby boomers so they enjoy communal dining,

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Speaker 2: it's crap. Okay, save you, Rizzley, save your money. No

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Speaker 2: one believes it.

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Speaker 4: I do like when you go out and and you

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Speaker 4: just order a bunch of stuff and everybody hears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that's that's not communal dyning. You're well communitize

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Speaker 2: people you went with that, you know you're not communally

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Speaker 2: sharing food with a person you're trying to pack up

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 4: I guess you want to be sure that the kind

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Speaker 4: of person who washes their hands after they go to

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Speaker 4: check about.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen Mike guacamoleley, would you like? I mean

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Speaker 2: that no one does that. Anyway, this rate thing, which

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Speaker 2: isn't coming until twenty twenty nine, I mean, is that

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Speaker 2: are we ever going to see the light of day?

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Speaker 2: Which is first the new rates balls of the CRL.

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Speaker 2: There's your contest for the morning. Anyway, I took to

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Speaker 2: Nix Smith of Nelson in a couple of moments.

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Speaker 1: Credible, compelling, the breakfast show You've con't best, It's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate

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Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three News togs Head being.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. So the details on the rates cap

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Speaker 2: aroute implementation still years away, of course, but consultation is

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Speaker 2: as of the smrning apparently, and you'll rate limit of

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Speaker 2: two to four percent water excluded. Any council wanted to

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Speaker 2: go above four percent will need regulatory approval. Nick Smith

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Speaker 2: is the mayor of Nelson and it's with us Nick,

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Speaker 2: morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Are you good morning, Mike?

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Speaker 2: How doable?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 15: It's going to be challenging and it's certainly going to

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Speaker 15: require a real culture change within the local government sector.

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Speaker 15: About eighty percent of our costs are infrastructure and the

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Speaker 15: real driver if you look over rates going up over

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Speaker 15: the last three years, average across New Zealand is thirty

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Speaker 15: five percent. It's a bit of a shaka and we

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Speaker 15: shouldn't be surprised with the government having to make a

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Speaker 15: heap of hard decisions. You know, every government agency's got

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Speaker 15: to squeeze on them that come after us and are

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Speaker 15: putting these caps in place, but if we're going to

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Speaker 15: be able to deliver them, they are going to need

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Speaker 15: to work with us around getting those costs, particularly in

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Speaker 15: the construction sector down. You get things likes of households.

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Speaker 15: Would just be gobsmacked to know that over the whole

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Speaker 15: of New Zealand we average spanning about five hundred dollars

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Speaker 15: per household on things like temporary traffic management, things like areas,

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Speaker 15: likes and waste lettes. Actually councils end up paying a

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Speaker 15: big part of those. So the only way this plan

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Speaker 15: is going to succeed is actually if we engage with

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Speaker 15: government and saying actually some of the regulations that have

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Speaker 15: been put in place, particularly over the last decade are

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Speaker 15: adding to those costs and if we are going to

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Speaker 15: be able to deliver on your two to four percent,

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Speaker 15: we need to work together to deliver it.

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Speaker 2: Do you need every one of the years till twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty nine to make it work?

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Speaker 15: Each council will be in a different position. We had

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Speaker 15: a big storm through in twenty two and I know

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Speaker 15: areas like gisbans and those and the fix up costs

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Speaker 15: for those those do take several years. To be fair

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Speaker 15: to the government that I've given us an exemption in

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Speaker 15: that area. I think it's going to be a big

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Speaker 15: stretch to get there by twenty nine our timetable, and

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Speaker 15: my challenge to our sector would be, hey, look, don't

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Speaker 15: try and fight the government, work with them. They are

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Speaker 15: simply reflecting the frustration from New Zealanders that the sector's costs,

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Speaker 15: which is not uncommon for a monopoly sector, have not

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Speaker 15: got under control in the way that households and businesses

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Speaker 15: have had to change in response to the sort of

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Speaker 15: COVID recession.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, mate, nice to catch up Nick Smith, who

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Speaker 2: is the mayor of course of Nelson. Nine minutes past

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Speaker 2: seven part of Scrutiny Week, we find out what Farm's

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Speaker 2: former boss here of fit quintin February, of course, where

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Speaker 2: they don't come Monday payout as it turns out, three

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars. Anyway, David Seymore's the

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Speaker 2: Minister of Farmaker and is with us on this. David morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning mate. Broadly speaking, the value of Scrutiny Week,

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Speaker 2: this is the sort of stuff we get. Is it

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Speaker 2: worth it?

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Speaker 13: It's an awful lot of time in Parliament. I briefly

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Speaker 13: sat in as a substitute, because normally they only have

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Speaker 13: you can't do it if you're a minister. But I

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Speaker 13: wanted to cover someone who was sick, and I watched

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Speaker 13: the behavior of the Chloe Swarbricks of the world and

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Speaker 13: I thought, you know, I don't know if this is

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Speaker 13: really going to make people believe in democracy. But you know,

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Speaker 13: the Parliament agreed to do it for three years. So

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Speaker 13: here we are.

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Speaker 2: Veryl was asking the questions over and this fit in

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Speaker 2: the three fifty seven thousand Veral wasn't defending it, was she?

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Speaker 2: I mean, she wasn't defending fit. Fit was a disaster,

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Speaker 2: wasn't she.

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Speaker 13: Well, I just want to be clear. I'm not saying

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Speaker 13: who it was. I can't do that, but I just

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Speaker 13: make the point Farmac inherited a person that we didn't hire.

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Speaker 13: They will hire a long time ago under a contract

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Speaker 13: that we didn't sign, adjudicated with employment law that we

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Speaker 13: are changing. So ioways say in life, it's not what

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Speaker 13: happens to you, it's what you do with it. We've

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Speaker 13: got a great person in that role. We're really really

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Speaker 13: pleased with them and the way Farmac's turning around the

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Speaker 13: contracting that's up to the board, but I'd hope that's tighter.

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Speaker 13: And then the employment law. All the people that are

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Speaker 13: jumping up and down in this ought to support the

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Speaker 13: act Party and the government's policy of saying, look, if

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Speaker 13: you're over two hundred thousand dollars, then you can't take

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Speaker 13: a personal grievance because if you're playing with the big kids,

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Speaker 13: you have a massive influence on the effectiveness of the

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Speaker 13: organization and you shouldn't be able to tie the organization

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Speaker 13: up PG. That's the bane of many small businesses existence.

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Speaker 13: It shouldn't be applied to somebody who has so much

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Speaker 13: influence over whether everyone else can be productive.

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Speaker 2: While I've got you, talk to me about that fuzzy food.

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Speaker 11: How is it?

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Speaker 2: To several questions, that was disgusting. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: it happened, but the food's discusting. How did kids eat it?

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Speaker 2: You couldn't get them to eat normal food, but they're

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Speaker 2: suddenly fuzzy, discusting food. And is it really a problem

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Speaker 2: or do we have something at play here?

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Speaker 13: Well, here's a few facts. It appears that a meal

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Speaker 13: that had been from a previous week was reserved to

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Speaker 13: some children. Radio and New Zealand then reported they're all

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Speaker 13: being tested for food poisoning. Well that there is no

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Speaker 13: food poisoning, There is no sickness at all. And what's

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Speaker 13: interesting is that the principle at the center of this

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Speaker 13: is what you might call a frequent flyer in terms

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Speaker 13: of getting in the media to complain about a range

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Speaker 13: of government policies. So we're doing some testing and keeping

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Speaker 13: a very open mind about how meal from last week

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Speaker 13: got in front of children this week.

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Speaker 2: How much trouble broad a question are you and Erica facing.

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Speaker 2: This is the teterity thing that schools just don't like

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Speaker 2: you are not going to do what they're just it's

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Speaker 2: a war basically.

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Speaker 13: Well, Erica and I are fine. We're very clear in

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Speaker 13: what we're trying to do, and that is make sure

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Speaker 13: that when a kid goes to school, there is a

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Speaker 13: teacher who's a knowledgeable adult standing in front of one classroom,

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Speaker 13: not three, joined together, with a knowledge rich curriculum of

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Speaker 13: facts that they are transferring from one generation to the next.

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Speaker 13: And then at the end we're going to test it

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Speaker 13: with proper exams so you can't fiddle your credits and

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Speaker 13: work around actual proper learning and testing. That's what we're

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Speaker 13: doing and that will uplift all children in the future

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Speaker 13: of this country. What I find interesting is we did

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Speaker 13: some analysis over the weekend and discovered that the schools

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Speaker 13: that have come out and made these declarations have an

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Speaker 13: average UI pass rate for Maori students of twenty four percent,

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Speaker 13: which is hardly great. In the average across the country

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Speaker 13: that figure is thirty two percent. So I know that

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Speaker 13: people get into statistics and correlations not causation. I get it.

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Speaker 13: But just on the face of it, the schools that

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Speaker 13: invest in all of this politics and virtue signaling don't

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Speaker 13: actually seem to do better for Mari's students when it

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Speaker 13: comes to getting university entrants. Now, I also just ask

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Speaker 13: a few questions. If you have a school that's doing this,

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Speaker 13: you could ask them, did they actually consult their parent

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Speaker 13: community before sending out these messages? Number two? Did they

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Speaker 13: talk to anyone outside the school community, such as those

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Speaker 13: that are pushing this campaign? And it is a campaign?

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Speaker 13: And number three, and this happens to be an Act

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Speaker 13: party policy. The major change that we made to the

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Speaker 13: duties of school boards was we said academic achievement must

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Speaker 13: be the paramount objective. They're not talking about how they're

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Speaker 13: going to address that and these emails going out and

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Speaker 13: finally we also said, you know you no longer have

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Speaker 13: to give effect to the treaty, that you do have

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Speaker 13: to reflect all of New Zealand's cultural diversity. They're not

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Speaker 13: saying how they want to do that, so it would

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Speaker 13: be useful if they could reflect and follow the laws

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Speaker 13: of Parliament and maybe focus a bit on academic achievement.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Appreciate it, David Seymour, It's a shame you've

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Speaker 2: got to say, well, that doesn't a Minister of fun

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Speaker 2: where it started off as Minister of fin but it

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Speaker 2: ended up associated Education Minister. Fifteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: At B David Williams back after right this morning meantime

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Speaker 2: could have a coup at Netball in New Zealand. Various

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Speaker 2: zones they call them zones. They're moving to force a

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Speaker 2: vote of no confidence in the CEO and the board.

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Speaker 2: You need three of the five zones around the country

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Speaker 2: to call the special general meeting. Nicky Compton is the

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Speaker 2: tower on a Netball Center board chair and as with us,

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Speaker 2: Nicky morning.

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Speaker 16: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Has this been building for a while.

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Speaker 16: Yes, it has. I can only speak on behalf of

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Speaker 16: our Netball Center. So at Taro and Netble Center, we

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Speaker 16: are unhappy with the way things have progressed in the

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Speaker 16: last probably a year actually, and so we've been working

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Speaker 16: towards getting the way Cato Bay a penny zone which

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Speaker 16: we're part of, to be one of the three zones

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Speaker 16: to call the special General Meeting of Netball New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Where's that at will they end up calling it or

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Speaker 2: voting for it?

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Speaker 16: So we have the Waye Cato Baypenny Zone Special General

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Speaker 16: Meeting this Sunday and we're confident that we will have

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Speaker 16: enough of our centers within that zone to vote positively

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Speaker 16: for that. And then it's a matter of talking with

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Speaker 16: the other zones to see if they will follow suit

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Speaker 16: with us.

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Speaker 2: Is this all no lane or wider than that?

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Speaker 16: It's wider than that. We've got three main issues at

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Speaker 16: Taram and Netble Center. There's real uncertainty around the am

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Speaker 16: Z premiership moving forward after next year and that's the

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Speaker 16: pinnacle of our domestic competition in the pathway for the

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Speaker 16: silver furn So that's that's concerning the television rights deal.

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Speaker 16: I think has been mishandled, and I understand the deal

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Speaker 16: that has been done has come at a cost to

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Speaker 16: New Zealand. And then the Nolean titler, Dame Nolean, she

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Speaker 16: is incident in the.

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Speaker 2: Way that was handled, just a complete shamble. Sunday it

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Speaker 2: is for the meeting. We'll be in touch next week

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Speaker 2: and we'll see where that goes and see ultimately whether

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Speaker 2: it heads to the big vote in the coups on

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Speaker 2: Nicky Compton, who's the tower on the Netball Center board chair,

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Speaker 2: It's probably came out on the wrong day to get

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Speaker 2: the coverage that actually deserved. But none of the last

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Speaker 2: or later pieces of the economic turnaround has told us basically,

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Speaker 2: we are there, We have arrived. This is consumer confidence.

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Speaker 2: It is back. It is up six points to ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: Now it needs to be one hundred and more for expansion,

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Speaker 2: but it's the highest figures in this June. It backs

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Speaker 2: the business confidence of last week, which was up a lot.

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Speaker 2: Business comes first because they see the turnaround on sales.

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Speaker 2: The spending numbers back that up because they're pretty much

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Speaker 2: real time, and then you get the confidence as a

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Speaker 2: follow up are given although we are spending, some may

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Speaker 2: not want to admit it, may still feel a bit

874
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Speaker 2: bit of a funk. But add it all together and

875
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: the conclusion is inescapable. You can also add the asp

876
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: housing numbers if you want to give you those half

877
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 2: an hour ago confidence in the housing market at a

878
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: fifteen year high. Why because it's almost perfect good supply,

879
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 2: cheap money. But most importantly, we seem to have crossed

880
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: the psychological barrier and given ourselves permission to start to

881
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: feel good again. The irony is the growth that drives

882
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: all of this. Might just have been there all along.

883
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 2: I mean, we get the Q three GDP number later

884
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: on this month, metrics have already forecast that to be

885
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: zero point nine. Add that to the rest of the

886
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: year and you're well above the growth line. I mean,

887
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: not a lot. I mean, but none of the commentary's

888
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: back that up. We've been miserable all year, allegedly, which

889
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: is not to say some aren't still doing it tough.

890
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: It's not to say it's going to be boon times,

891
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: just to say there comes a point where the facts,

892
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: the figures, and the evidence can no longer be denied.

893
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: Here's my next prediction. As a result of all of this,

894
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six might well be a very good year. Indeed,

895
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: based on the idea that economies are about psychologies. Yes,

896
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: they're about the fundamentals, but if the fundamentals are in place,

897
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: the next thing you look for is mood. And given

898
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: the mood has been so repressed, when we decide to

899
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: take the handbrake off, there might just be no stopping us.

900
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: As I said last week, don't underestimate the Reserve Bank

901
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: and the finality of that cut.

902
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: This was it.

903
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: We've done our job. You are free to go enjoy

904
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: your life. For those waiting and dillydallying, that was what

905
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: they were waiting for. Next confidence survey will be over

906
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 2: one hundred, and that will be the start of a

907
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 2: trend for the year ahead. Where you heard it first,

908
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: pad Skiing might call me cynical, but one councils go

909
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: nuts with rates increases in the short term. Possibly, I

910
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 2: think the we'll ask sign Rott's about that shortly. But

911
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: the call yesterday to say it's not coming until twenty

912
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: twenty nine, but your attitude needs to change. As off

913
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: this morning I think was a bit bit delusional, Mike

914
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: of rights caps are not going to see the light

915
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: of day. Why did National waste everyone's time announcing it? Well,

916
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: when I say they won't see the light of day,

917
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine is two elections away. You got twenty

918
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: sixty get through, then you're in twenty nine for another

919
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: election year. That's a long time for something that you

920
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: talked about in the latter part of twenty twenty five

921
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: to come to fruition. Mike, if you want to see

922
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 2: what a housing boom looks like, visit Rolliston. It's incredible

923
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: killometer after killometer of brand new sections in housing. That

924
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: is the truth, that is that is the mega center

925
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: of housing and productivity in this country. Of course, Mike,

926
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: I see ike is opening December before in Auckland transport

927
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: telling people to use public transport. What a joke that

928
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: IKEA thing. This endless publicity of the medium about IKEA.

929
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: Are you uncomfortable with that? I think I'm uncomfortable with it.

930
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: I watched a reporter so called bouncing on a bed

931
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: last night at Ikea and eating meat balls, And I thought,

932
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: is that news or is that pre publicity? And I

933
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: think we all know what it is. I mean, good

934
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: on Ikea, and if they want to open, god bless them,

935
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe all who want to buy a

936
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: cheap furniture sale in her But is it really news anyway?

937
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,240
Speaker 2: Our news, proper news allegedly is but moments away.

938
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. The Mic Hosking

939
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: breakfast with Veda, Retirement Communities, Life your Way News togstead.

940
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: Be mikeree Ika news and publicity. Ordinarily I'd agree with this,

941
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: but isn't it more likely that Ikea had bought a

942
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 2: major advertising campaign with the media outlet, and as part

943
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: of that, they're promising a certain amount of editorial content. Craig,

944
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: that's I was going to say, once upon a time,

945
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: that's not the way it works. Increasingly, I don't know

946
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: that I can necessarily promise you that, but I'd like

947
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: to think that's not the way it works, Mike. I

948
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 2: believe that those school sandwiches were put there where they

949
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: went sandwiches were they? I don't know what it was.

950
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: They were so moldy and fuzzy you couldn't tell what

951
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: they were, but they certainly weren't sandwiches anyway. They were

952
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: put there to sabotage of the government's school lunch pans. That's

953
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: why I asked about ask seymore about it this morning.

954
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: I mean that frequent flyer is a clever line of Seymour's.

955
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: But there are the same unionists slash principals who turn

956
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: up in the media all the time their rent a quote,

957
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: and they permanently got problems. They hate the government, they

958
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: hate school lunches, and the irony of the school lunch,

959
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: as I pointed out to David, was at the beginning

960
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: of the school lunch program. Remember the kids wouldn't eat

961
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: it fresh meals. They just ah, no, they don't like those.

962
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: So on once. So one story when you ring up

963
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: rent a quote is the kids are starving and they

964
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 2: can't learn on an empty stomach. Fair enough. So then

965
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: the food arrives fresh and they go, oh, they don't

966
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: like that. Story number two. And then they apparently liked

967
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: the lunches so much that when they turn up rotten

968
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: and fuzzy and moldy, they eat them.

969
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: What do we call them when people complain about or

970
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 4: vexatious litigators? Is that what they saw?

971
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 2: A good point?

972
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 3: Glenn?

973
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: The other thing, what's an insubordinate groin? That was my

974
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: other thing for the morning. So in our sports news

975
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 2: this morning, somebody said they've got an insubordinate groin. I

976
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 2: only thought you had one groin? Am I wrong in that?

977
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: I think you have a groin? And therefore, what's it

978
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: insubordinate too?

979
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 4: Do you not have a pair of groins?

980
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: I don't think you have got groins. I've never heard groins.

981
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: It's just sort of an area, is it.

982
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 17: No?

983
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: Because when they say I got a groin strain, you

984
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: don't say which one do you?

985
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 4: Well? No, that's what I'm saying.

986
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: Surely you know you trained ug groin.

987
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 4: Maybe you can strain both of them. I don't know what.

988
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 2: You can't make that up. You can't strain both groins

989
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: if you had.

990
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: The executive producers just asked some AI over here and

991
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 4: the ais definitely two groins.

992
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: There are two groins, so maybe you've only got one.

993
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: That could be my problem. It's never in subordinate to anything.

994
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: It's why I've probably got It's probably why I walk strange.

995
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 4: Ay, is it like a kidney? Perhaps you can function

996
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 4: on one. It's good to have a backup.

997
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 2: Twenty one to eight, all little town of Bethley, how House.

998
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: David Williams is back with a Center and Son is

999
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: the latest book. I don't know that we'll get to

1000
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: actually talking about the book. Wead mop and talk about

1001
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: other stuff when David Williams is on the program. Anyway,

1002
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: this rates cap two to four percent, right, water is separate.

1003
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: It's about getting back to basics. The wall doesn't actually

1004
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: come in, as we've said till twenty twenty nine, but

1005
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: the attitude is expected to be adjusted immediately. Simon Watts

1006
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: is your Minister for Local Government is back with us.

1007
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,720
Speaker 2: Good morning, Yeah, great to be here, Miry. Wayne Brown

1008
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: already says it isn't going to work. I suspect there

1009
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: are other mayors who think the same way. How are

1010
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: you going to deal with that?

1011
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 5: Oh, look, we're going to be having conversation with Wayne.

1012
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 5: We've got to know the process is open for consultation.

1013
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 5: I think Auckland had already signaled that they were looking

1014
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 5: at keeping their rates within a pretty tight bend as

1015
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 5: we go into the old years. That mess been pretty

1016
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 5: keen on on making sure that spending was under control

1017
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 5: for ratepayers, so I'm confident we can work through that

1018
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 5: detail with them. We've set a band, Mike, and I

1019
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 5: think that's important to recognize a low point on that

1020
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: based on inflation, up a point on economic growth. That

1021
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 5: band is a clear signal to councils. And the reason

1022
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 5: why we're doing it is because these guys are monopolies

1023
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 5: and there's no riverbanks, no guardrails around what they've been

1024
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 5: doing on rates, and some of it has been pretty

1025
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 5: horrific in terms of parts of the country.

1026
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: And I think most people will be on board with you.

1027
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 2: But I was watching your press conference yesterday and you

1028
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: said in the messages it starts now. It doesn't come

1029
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: until twenty nine, but the attitude starts today. I would

1030
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: suggest to you they're going to give you the middle finger.

1031
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, but look you and that may be the case,

1032
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 5: But my job is to make sure that I'm representing

1033
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 5: the views that I'm hearing from ratepayers who are taxpayers

1034
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 5: and they are sick and tired of seeing their money

1035
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 5: and as I said, these are monopolies being spent in

1036
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 5: some pretty silly places and excessive levels, and this has

1037
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 5: hits hard as we know to Supernuit, it's hard to

1038
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 5: fix income and we've been practically the policy is a band.

1039
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 5: It takes them because it's not the New South Wales model.

1040
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 5: We've learned from that. We've got mechanisms to deal with

1041
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 5: your natural disasters and all of that. So I think

1042
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 5: we've got the point right and it'll be staged in

1043
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: as well and over that process, you know, we'll work

1044
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 5: with them. But actually, in fairness, you know, I think

1045
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 5: I've had a lot of good feedback from rate pays

1046
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 5: across the country overnight Mike have said, you know, well done,

1047
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 5: you know, and at last someone's coming in with a

1048
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: little bit of a sense of control.

1049
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: Do you think people can get their head around you?

1050
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: Once again, watching that press conference yesterday, the media questions

1051
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: were instructed by thought in the sense all they were

1052
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 2: worried about was libraries and parks, which is not what

1053
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 2: you're saying. You're not talking about library and parks, you're

1054
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: talking about wastage. So do we not the councils understand

1055
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: wastage as opposed to libraries and parks, or it's going

1056
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: to become.

1057
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 5: A scrap well, look, part of this is an education process.

1058
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 5: But we are not capping infrastructure. We're capping inefficiencies, right,

1059
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 5: and that's the whole problem.

1060
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 3: We've got a lot of.

1061
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 5: Fat in the system and we need to make sure

1062
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 5: that that finite amount of money ratepayers aren't a bottomless pitt.

1063
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 5: We know that, and you know we've got to make

1064
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 5: sure that that cash is going into the areas it's needed.

1065
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 5: We're doing some other changes around, making sure that councils

1066
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 5: are focused on the basics. It's all part of that package.

1067
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 5: But I'm confident I'll work with the industry, not against them.

1068
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, you know, I

1069
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 5: work for the ratepayer and this is what they've been

1070
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 5: calling for, right.

1071
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: I appreciate Simon Watts, Minister for Local Government's eighteen to

1072
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: two ask if you missed it in Sport the Telegraph

1073
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: as in the not the British one, but the Dutch one,

1074
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: which is directly linked. I've never quite worked out how

1075
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: but Jospher Staffan, who is Max's dad, seems to have

1076
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: a fairly tight link in. A lot of red bull

1077
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: ish news comes out of that particular newspaper, The Word

1078
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: this morning. If you've missed it is that what we

1079
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: thought was going to happen has happened. A high level

1080
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: meeting at Red Bull Austria makes a lot more decisions

1081
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: these days. It was once upon a time pre the

1082
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: guy Massachuh died recently that basically helmet Marcos your man

1083
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: along with Christian Horner. Christian's gone helmet Marco's power has

1084
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: been taken away from him to a degree. Austrian our

1085
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: sees the F one teams more of part of the

1086
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: wider Red Bull Sports drink family. Therefore they want to

1087
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: be more involved in it. Also, they've got to get

1088
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: ahead of meeting. Hadg's up next to the step and

1089
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting to see what sort of car

1090
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: they come up with next year given the new regulation.

1091
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: So Haja gets the promotion, Lawson stays, Linn Blad gets

1092
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: promoted Sonoda. No one seems to know what happens because

1093
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: the story this morning is there is a suggestion he's

1094
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: going to hand his car over this coming weekend for

1095
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: FP one to lind Blad to get him behind the wheel.

1096
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: So you can imagine how he feels about that. But

1097
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: that is it made. The suggestion is he may well

1098
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: stay as a reserve driver. So he gets demoted from

1099
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: Red Bull down through racing Bulls to become the reserve driver.

1100
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: So I don't know how he feels about that.

1101
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 4: All Well, it's a complicated business, isn't it.

1102
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 2: Not overly complicated? I feel like you got sacked.

1103
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 4: I watched I finally got around to watching that F

1104
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 4: one movie yesterday.

1105
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 2: Oh isn't any good?

1106
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 4: And I feel like I understand a lot more about

1107
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 4: F one than I ever did before. I had no

1108
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 4: idea that you could just miss out all those qualifying

1109
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: rounds and sprint razors and things and just turn up

1110
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 4: on the day of the race to decide that you

1111
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 4: were racing.

1112
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: That that was one of the There was a couple

1113
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: of aspects for the for the train spotter that simply

1114
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 2: doesn't get they change Do they change a car at

1115
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 2: one point or do something like that. There's a whole

1116
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: bunch of rules that are broken. In other words, it's

1117
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: complete fiction. But they say they say a couple of things.

1118
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: They say the CGI the racing stuff is very good,

1119
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: is it well.

1120
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 4: Almost too good? And that because they're in Formula one

1121
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 4: cars with big crash helmets on. It's not like watching

1122
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 4: days of thunder when you can sort of see what

1123
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: they're doing and yelling things and stuff. You can barely

1124
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 4: make out which drivers which because their faces are all

1125
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 4: squished in to.

1126
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 2: Would you recommend it as a movie If.

1127
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 4: You've got a big surrounds bound system, put it on

1128
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: and turn it up loud. It's fun to hear.

1129
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's sort of like a movie for the blind.

1130
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? What are you saying?

1131
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,919
Speaker 1: Maybe random seven five the mic hosting Breakfast, a full

1132
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: show podcast on iHeartRadio now would by news talks, it'd.

1133
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: Be just to wrap that film review up, glintses It's

1134
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 2: quite tense and exciting at the end of the last race,

1135
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 2: but the end is rubbish or ridiculous. So I hope

1136
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 2: that hasn't ruined it for you.

1137
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: I mean, I like I like movies with space ships

1138
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 4: and aliens, and you.

1139
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: Realize that if one was never going to offer you

1140
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 2: that day, no, no, no.

1141
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: But I'm good. I'm good at suspending my disbelief.

1142
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 2: But yeah, they just if you'd come to me and

1143
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 2: said you reckon, I should watch an F one movie,

1144
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: I would have gone, don't waste your time. Knowing you

1145
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: I think you've literally wasted your time. Can I just

1146
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: give you some credit information, by the way, just to

1147
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: back up my general theory that the economies come right.

1148
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: This is Centrix October. Consumer areas continue to fall. Household

1149
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: lendings up significantly, so that's good. That's year on year.

1150
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: Mortgage inquiries are elevated. Credit demand is rising ahead of

1151
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: Black Friday. Demand is falling for young consumed. Young consumers

1152
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 2: aren't in to credit cards, which I thought was interesting.

1153
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: So when I say credit demand, that's different to credit

1154
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: card demand. They don't like credit cards, which I think

1155
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 2: is interesting. Overall, credit demand is up strongest in the

1156
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: hospital sect, very strong in education and training, and retail

1157
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: bit sticky. Still in construction. Construction as far as liquidations

1158
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: are concerned, still a problem, and company liquidations generally is

1159
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: still a problem. But they're the last cab off the

1160
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: rank to turn, so generally, that's yet more good news.

1161
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: Can you handle so.

1162
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 11: Much good news?

1163
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 9: Now?

1164
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: I need to talk to you about very briefly about

1165
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 2: the cricket because Rob Alter is with us in the moment.

1166
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 2: These windows are a bit useless. Is that a fair

1167
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 2: question to ask them? They're a bit useless, aren't they anyway,

1168
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: the test starts today and I'm worried about the forecast.

1169
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: Apart from anything so more cricket shortly tend to wait for.

1170
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: The Mike asking breakfast with a Veda Retirement Communities news.

1171
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 2: Togstead been seven that it's that button. We need a

1172
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: new one. I've done that twice now.

1173
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: It's not just you're losing your fine motor skills.

1174
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Seven away from eight the

1175
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 2: summer of cricket gets underway. So we got the short

1176
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: term stuff that's all sorted out, the tests to hear

1177
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: the real deal. New Zealand Windys of course, Hagley oval

1178
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: no better place to play cricket in this country. Rob Walters,

1179
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: the black Caps coach and as well as Rob, morning

1180
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: to you. I'm worried about the weather. Should I be?

1181
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 17: It's not looking too flash at the moment, it's not

1182
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 17: raining heavily overcast, but hoping that that's going to move

1183
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 17: on and you're going to get some playing.

1184
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: What sort of picture we got?

1185
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 17: It looks pretty good, not not as green as you

1186
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 17: normally arrive to here, Ed Hagley, but still hoping for

1187
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 17: good home conditions.

1188
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: Totch without putting too fine a point on it. Might

1189
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: the Windys be a bit better at test cricket than

1190
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 2: they are at the other forms, as we've found out

1191
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 2: so far.

1192
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 13: I certainly think so.

1193
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 17: I think you know, if you track their performances through India,

1194
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 17: they kept getting better in tough conditions there. You know,

1195
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 17: they've managed to create a few upsets along the last

1196
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 17: twelve months in Test cricket. They've got a nice bowling

1197
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 17: unit and sertainly some players who probably find their space better.

1198
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: In test cricket.

1199
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 17: So I wouldn't expect it just to be a pushover

1200
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 17: there for sure.

1201
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 2: Are the guys can big up? I mean you're seeing

1202
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 2: what sort of the ashes? I mean, we're not going

1203
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: to have a two day or.

1204
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 17: Are we certainly hope not.

1205
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: How do the players compartmentalize and is it an issue

1206
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: or are you already thinking about things like England and

1207
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 2: T twenties and World Cups and stuff like that.

1208
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 17: No, I think you know, players have become pretty used

1209
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 17: to swapping in an out of different formats, and I

1210
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 17: must say this seems particularly good at being with their

1211
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 17: feet are and focusing specifically on this test. I mean,

1212
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 17: you always have one eye on you know the pinnacle

1213
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 17: event that you're either part of a building towards you

1214
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 17: obviously have to, but it's it's in the background and

1215
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 17: really focusing very hard on taking care of today.

1216
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: Firstly, good stuff. You're enjoying the job so far?

1217
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 17: Yeah, loving it, dasty An awesome, awesome so far, A

1218
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 17: great group of people you know, both started and plays.

1219
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 2: Good stuff. That's to catch up. Appreciate it very much,

1220
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: Rob Walter, who's the black Cats head coach, Mike, when

1221
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: you actually give me one, Glenn five minutes away from

1222
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 2: it tasking, when you start using the term rockstar economy again,

1223
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: that's when we know we're back on track. That's a

1224
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: very good point. Mark. I'm going to I'm going to

1225
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: pace myself on that one very carefully because I don't

1226
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: want to go too soon on that. I don't want

1227
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: to say that in you know, May next year and

1228
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 2: everyone goes, h he must nah, it's not right, Mike.

1229
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 2: What the heck is Lewis Hamilton going to do next year?

1230
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,919
Speaker 2: It's been such a rubbish year for him, Paul, He's

1231
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: going to be fine because what the rubbish part of

1232
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: the year for him has not been him. He's just

1233
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: as good as he ever was. He's just one of

1234
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 2: those drivers who's trapped in unfortunate circumstances. Some way. I

1235
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 2: feel the same way. Some mornings I look through the

1236
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: double glazing and I think to myself, am I on

1237
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: the right team here?

1238
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 4: That's that's when I feel bad about that.

1239
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly so.

1240
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 4: I mean, imagine if you weren't handicapped by imagine what

1241
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: I could have been. You'd be in a constant flow state.

1242
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 4: You'd be soaring. We're like anchors around you.

1243
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: So true. Morning. Mike here Us said the last night,

1244
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: you drink your own pea. She did not, did she

1245
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 2: honestly say that.

1246
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 4: I didn't think you find that out.

1247
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: She said, you drink your own pea as a health

1248
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: benefit as well as ice. Barts Plea confirmed. Only with

1249
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: soda water, you just effervescence.

1250
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: The plungeboard doesn't actually have their ice in it, I

1251
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: does it. No, it's just cold as ice.

1252
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: It's cold as ice. It's three or four degrees. David

1253
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: Williams is. But moments away you're on the mic.

1254
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: Hosking asking the questions others won't the mic hosking breakfast

1255
00:58:54,160 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: with the defender embraced the impossible news today.

1256
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 8: This has been.

1257
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: The energy well of my favorite Christmas songs. Seven minutes

1258
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: past eight. Time for ketchup with an old mate. David

1259
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: Williams as beckler A's latest children's book, just in time

1260
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: for Christmas, called Center and Son eds to growing portfolio.

1261
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 2: He sawd more than sixteen million coffees for goodness sake.

1262
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: David Williams as well us, good morning, lovely to see you.

1263
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 2: I've missed you, miss I've missed you too year since.

1264
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 18: I've seen I was last year and it was the

1265
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 18: highlight of my trip, surprising you at the studio and

1266
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 18: your sort of wife arranged this as if I were.

1267
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 3: Some kind of kiss agram or something like that.

1268
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 18: I've come to delight you. But it's lovely to see you.

1269
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 18: You're looking very well.

1270
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: Well, you're looking well as well. I note I'm a

1271
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: details person. Last time we interviewed each other via the zoom,

1272
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: you were in exactly the same position, and I believe

1273
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: the glasses behind you were exactly the same.

1274
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,320
Speaker 18: I well, I have my position, I have my lighting

1275
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 18: set up, I have my makeup and costume team right here,

1276
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 18: and no, this this is the spot in my house

1277
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 18: that I reserve for for zooms. So yes, you can

1278
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 18: see my glass where, some of which is incredibly nice

1279
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 18: and incredibly camp, including these glasses.

1280
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 3: They have a little flamingo. I mean, what kind of

1281
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 3: man owns that?

1282
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: What are you serving me?

1283
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: Well?

1284
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 18: When you have kids over like my son and these

1285
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 18: having a little you know, tea party or something, you

1286
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 18: put a little bit of water in those just to

1287
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 18: jazz things up a little bit. Like there's a man

1288
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 18: who spends his life in skin tight leather trousers criticizing

1289
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 18: my flamingo.

1290
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm not criticizing him. I just want what drinks you

1291
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: would serve in there? And you've got a lovely cup

1292
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: as well. By the way, I saw a fighter of.

1293
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: You, my Willy. That's beautiful rolled down.

1294
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: Where are you at with your writing in terms? Are

1295
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: you still challenged by it?

1296
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 18: I love doing it. I mean it is challenging. I

1297
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 18: think the more you do, you know you're constantly scared.

1298
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 18: You think, oh my god, I'm going to run out

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Speaker 18: by ideas, or you think, oh god, this is too

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Speaker 18: similar to something I've already done. The thing I try

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Speaker 18: and do is move away as far as I can

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Speaker 18: from something I've just done, because the thing is you

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Speaker 18: just don't want to repeat yourself. And a lot of

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Speaker 18: the first books I wrote, they were set in contemporary

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Speaker 18: Britain and they revolved around schools and things, and I

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Speaker 18: created all these teacher characters, you know, all these head

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Speaker 18: masters had mistresses and maths teachers and frenchly soever.

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Speaker 3: I've got no more teachers.

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Speaker 18: I I can't think of any more traits that would

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Speaker 18: make teachers funny. So whether I just have to move

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Speaker 18: away from that and find different stories. And so they've

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Speaker 18: gone in all different directions to Victorian times, into the future,

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Speaker 18: nineteen twenties, the nineteen forties, and that's really.

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Speaker 3: Helped me, you know, just kind of each time.

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Speaker 18: Feel like I'm doing something new, because forty four books

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Speaker 18: is a lot. I mean, it's quantity of equality, Mike,

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Speaker 18: but it's still a lot of different ideas. You know,

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01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 18: It's not a series I've written. Each time, it's a

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Speaker 18: different story, and so I sort of have to make

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Speaker 18: it difficult for myself just so I don't end up

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Speaker 18: going down the same path.

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Speaker 13: I love.

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Speaker 18: I love doing it. It's just sometimes you get stuck

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Speaker 18: and then you get really demoralized. But then you do

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Speaker 18: something else and then you just you sit in a

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Speaker 18: bath or something, and for some reason it just pops

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Speaker 18: up the idea, Mike, the idea just pops up than

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Speaker 18: your head.

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Speaker 2: Do you Is the success still important, very much so,

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Speaker 2: more than ever?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's the same effort writing

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Speaker 18: a book that one people, you know, one person buys,

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01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 18: so the same effort of a million people buy it.

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01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 18: So it's exactly the same effort. And of course I'm

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Speaker 18: not really competitive in any big way. I don't see

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Speaker 18: other people who do what I do as sort of

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Speaker 18: foes or anything. I'm perfectly pleased with other people's success.

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Speaker 18: But of course I want my book to be well received.

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01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 18: I want kids to enjoy it. I wanted to make

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Speaker 18: people happy. I mean, the thing about doing a book

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01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 18: is that you write the book on your own, and

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Speaker 18: generally the books are read, you know, children read them

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Speaker 18: on their own.

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01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 3: With parents and stuff. But obviously it's not a thing.

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01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 18: I'm not on a stage read I'm not getting immediate feedback.

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Speaker 18: And so the lovely thing is is when I meet

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Speaker 18: kids at events and they tell me how much they

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01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 18: enjoyed the books, or parents says comes up to me

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Speaker 18: and says, I couldn't get my child to read until

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01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 18: they've read one of your books. And I sent some

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01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,439
Speaker 18: books to a friend's kids and they said, well, they've

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01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 18: already devoured three hundred pages tonight.

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01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, okay, the book.

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01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 18: Must be okay, because kids, you know, to read that

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01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 18: much in one go and to want to keep reading,

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01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 18: you know, to have that sense of urgency that you

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01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 18: need to whip through it is you know, it's exciting

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01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 18: to me, so you know, but ultimately, I think with anything,

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01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 18: and you could ask a lot of great people this

1361
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 18: is like, ultimately what matters a lot is how you

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01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 18: feel about it. So I would hate to turn out

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01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 18: something that I thought was underpar and I'd feel embarrassed.

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Speaker 18: And I was talking to a friend of mine, Ragna,

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01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 18: who's a crime writer who lives in Iceland, and I said,

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Speaker 18: you know, I woke up in the middle of the

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 18: night with just wanting to change a line and he went,

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01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 18: that's because you care, and I thought, yeah, that's a

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01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 18: good way. Yeah, I thought it was a good way

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Speaker 18: of putting it. Obviously he cares too, and all writers do,

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Speaker 18: I'm sure, but yeah, that's.

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Speaker 3: The weird thing.

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Speaker 18: You're lying in bed at night and you just think, oh,

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01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 18: that would be a better joke. I've changed that in

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01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 18: the morning and it's really really like you it's two

1376
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:53,959
Speaker 18: words or something you're going to change.

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Speaker 2: Listen a hold on, Mike. We'll come back with more

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01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: in a moment. So the new book Center and Sun

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Speaker 2: David Williams is with us more in a moment. Thirteen

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Speaker 2: asked the.

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01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: Mic asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 2: It be News Talks, will be sixteen past eight Center

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01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 2: and Son has the book David Williams is with us

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01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: out of London this morning. I listen without without probing

1386
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: too much. Bro, No, no, no, I won't. But your

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01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: son Elfie does he Where is he in terms of

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01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: does he think you're cool? You and what you do?

1389
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: And you know Dad's Dad's a writer and he's super

1390
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 2: you know, does he get that age yet? Where he's

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01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 2: got it?

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01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 18: He's rolling his eyes every time I speak, Oh, I

1394
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 18: like that when I ask him to do something. But

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01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 18: it's very strange you do have to tell children to

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 18: do things like the other day, well yesterday actually was

1397
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 18: getting out of the car, is about to Bay Rugby

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01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 18: and it's like, you know, these got out of the

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01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 18: car with Rugby hasn't done up the.

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Speaker 3: Laces are doing it later, Dad, The sensible thing would

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01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: be to do it now. But yeah, I mean I

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01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 3: think he.

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 18: I think what's happened is he's twelve years old, and

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01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 18: so he's now even though I never said to him,

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01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 18: I never really talked to him about Little Britain not

1406
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 18: comply with me, He's now in a situation with his

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01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 18: friends at school who are just finding these things themselves

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01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 18: on YouTube or online or.

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01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 3: Whatever, and.

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Speaker 18: So he sort of got into it to my comedy

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01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 18: work through his friends. Not because his friends particularly, I

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01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 18: don't care about me or know me, but just that

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 18: when you're a twelve year old boy, you want to

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 18: start watching some rude comedy shows. So he's got into

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01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 18: that now. But I find it odd because it's daddy,

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01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,479
Speaker 18: you know. Can we watch an episode of Little Britain?

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01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 18: And I just find it odd sitting there watching it

1418
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 18: with him, because I'm thinking, is he finding this funny?

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01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 3: Does he understand this joke? Whatever?

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01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 18: But no, I think he. You know, we have a

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01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 18: lot of fun together. We have a very close relationship.

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01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 18: And the book is about the bond between a father

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01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 18: and son and it's also well, this dad is a

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01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 18: sort of deadbeat dad. But there's definitely a theme running

1425
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 18: for about parents, separated parents and the boy, you know,

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01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 18: basically he hasn't seen his dad for many years, and

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01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 18: he doesn't he gonna you know, it's like he sort

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01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 18: of gets to spend Christmas with his dad but not.

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01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 18: And so I was thinking a bit about sometimes the

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Speaker 18: pain you feel as a parent when you don't have

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Speaker 18: your child at Christmas. I was thinking about that because

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Speaker 18: I think Christmas everyone there's a sort of thing we've

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01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 18: all got to be happy, but there's often sort of

1434
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 18: melancholy creeps in.

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Speaker 3: And I remember my dad died.

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Speaker 18: It was like seventeen years ago now, but sort of

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Speaker 18: in November, and I remember sort of dreading the first

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Speaker 18: Christmas without her. I know, it was just horrendous, you know,

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 18: sitting around crying. And so it's one of these things,

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Speaker 18: isn't it. It's a time where sort of it's almost

1441
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 18: like you're forced to be happy, but it's not always

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01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 18: the happiest time, especially if something has gone on, like

1443
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 18: your breathement or something. So I wanted a little bit

1444
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 18: of that. And it's a comedy action adventure, but I

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 18: like to have a theme.

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01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 3: I like to make a point.

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01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 18: It makes it interesting for me, and it means there

1448
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 18: is something for the reader to take away and to

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01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 18: discuss their parents, you know.

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01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: I think I think that's important.

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01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 18: If I'm going to go to the effort of writing book,

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01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 18: I want there to be some point to it. Sometimes

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01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 18: they're just funny, sometimes they're silly. Sometimes they're just adventures.

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 18: But I feel like, if I'm going to write a

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01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 18: Christmas story, it's got to have some resonance, you know,

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01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 18: it's got there's got to be more than fun going on.

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01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 2: Are you escaping Britain for Christmas? Are you off to

1458
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 2: your villarum New Yorker, Portugal? Spain?

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01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 3: I call it more of a castle, But I'm not

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01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 3: going there.

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Speaker 18: I'm I'm taking my son away before Christmas to the Maldives.

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Speaker 3: Okay, there you go.

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01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 18: But he's really into his scuba diving, so we're going

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01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 18: to go diving together and I'm very excited. I don't

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01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 18: have him for Christmas, which is probably what I was,

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01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 18: you know, just talking about now, But I have my mom,

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01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 18: my sister, my nephews, so that's all good. But yeah,

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 18: I don't mind. London's quite exciting at Christmas, the run

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01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 18: up to Christmas. This suddenly is the first This is

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Speaker 18: the first of December. Today, obviously the Christmas lights are up.

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 18: The tree in Trafalgar Square goes up today, the pantomimes

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01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 18: are on, you know, the Christmas menus and the restaurants everything,

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01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 18: and so it does become quite exciting. So I rather like,

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 18: I rather like being in London in the run up

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01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 18: to Christmas. But as soon as I've had my Christmas lunch,

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01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 18: I'm ready for the whole thing to be over.

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 3: I've had enough.

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01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 18: Bit immediately, we've done it, we had, we had the lunch, right,

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01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 18: can we get on with something else? And you know,

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 18: I find the time between Christmas and you year an

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01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 18: amazing time to get on with some.

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Speaker 3: Work really because well.

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 18: Because people aren't contacting you, offices close, you're not getting

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01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 18: emails from and it's an amazing time to get a

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01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 18: lot of writing done. So I will finishing off my

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01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 18: new book.

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Speaker 2: Then all right, we'll listen, you go, well, you have

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Speaker 2: a fabulous Christmas, fabulous holidays, and we'll look forward to

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Speaker 2: having your back on the program super soon. David Williams

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Speaker 2: with us this morning are Center and Son eight twenty one, the.

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Speaker 2: fiber are basically taking your business product to but the

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Speaker 2: next level, get your business running on business fiber Husky, Mike,

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Speaker 2: we're fans of David's books. We gave our nine year

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Speaker 2: old son, Center and son this morning in his advent calendar.

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,600
Speaker 2: He got very excited to get through the day. So

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01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 2: looking forward to going to bed tonight reading it isn't

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Speaker 2: that nice?

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01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 4: That's a fancy ed van Ken. It's very big doors, big.

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01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 2: Slots, isn't it? Get a book in the slot? Mike,

1521
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: David's books a total quality. Looking forward to his Christmas

1522
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 2: edition to our library. There you so he's a fan, Mike.

1523
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 2: I work in a scrap metal yard serving lots of tradees.

1524
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: The general opinion is buoyant. All plumbers, Sparky's builders, et cetera.

1525
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 2: So they're busy again. Seems to have done the hard

1526
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 2: yards and things looking up Roscoe. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: We were talking yesterday to tell you what sector they're

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01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 2: in because that would sort of give them away. But anyway,

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01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: we were down there and they said, we've had just

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01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 2: an excellent year but we don't like to shout about it.

1531
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Speaker 2: And this is my other worry with the New Zealand

1532
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: economy at the moment. The reason they don't like to

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01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: shout about it is that they claimed a camaraderie within

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01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: their industry and they know within their industry there have

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01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 2: been people who have doing it tough, have been doing

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01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 2: it tough, and therefore they don't want to be the

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01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: ones going, hey, look at us, we're fantastic. Wa who

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01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 2: and their mates are not doing so well. But I

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 2: would argue that the reason they've done so well is

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01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 2: because they're actually good at what they do. And I've

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01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: tried to argue this all along. You can have a

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01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: whole sector that, allegedly, according to the media headline clickbait,

1543
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: they're in trouble, but within that sector, any given sector,

1544
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what. There's construction, hospow whatever, Nayla Love.

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01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: I gave you that example the other day, construction. No

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01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 2: one's doing it harder than construction. Yet Nayla Love cracking

1547
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: a billion dollars in revenue. Why because they happen to

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01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 2: be good at what they do. So I'm seeing a

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Speaker 2: lot of that at the moment. Mike When you listen

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01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: to all the travel advertising by overseas airlines and cruise

1551
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 2: ship companies, many of us have plenty of play money

1552
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 2: the first time buyers also indicates we are doing well.

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01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: Good news, isn't it? Yes? It is now speaking of

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01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: money that budget from the UK last week they got

1555
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 2: real problems around us with calls now for inquiries, Rod

1556
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: with the details after the news, which is next?

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Speaker 1: Opinion edit informed, unapologetic, the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 1: real estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three

1559
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: news togsdad be.

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Speaker 2: This is interesting if it's true. Mike cars in a

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Speaker 2: boat shop yesterday. The owner city's gone from selling a

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01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 2: boat every four days to three boats a day. It

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01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 2: is this time of year. I'll grant you that, but

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Speaker 2: that's I would have thought that's a lot of boats now.

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01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 2: I alluded before the news to this problem that mis

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Speaker 2: Reeve seems to have with their budget. One was the

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Speaker 2: fact we went round taxing everybody and there's billions of

1568
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,879
Speaker 2: dollars worth of trouble there, and of course the interference

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01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 2: with the economy in general. But we also have this

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 2: interesting situation or not she misled the country in other words,

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01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 2: she had numbers and she knew things were just a

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: little bit bitter than she was inferring to the rist

1573
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Speaker 2: of the country anyway. James Murray, who's the UK Treasury Secretary,

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01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,519
Speaker 2: He's bed's busy running defense bort.

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Speaker 19: The Chancellor has been consistent and upfront with the public

1576
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 19: about her considerations in the lead up to the budget

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01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 19: last week, mister Speaker, The Chancellor took the step of

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01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 19: delivering a speech before the budget precisely so that she

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01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 19: could be upfront about the circumstances she was dating and

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01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,440
Speaker 19: the decisions that she would need to take. The Chancellor

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01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 19: has been honest and consistent with the public in everything

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01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 19: she has said.

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01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: International correspondence with ins and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

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01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 10: Roll little's with us morning mate, Yeah right, as they

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01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 10: say in response to that last clipping place, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 10: How you doing it?

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 3: Very well?

1589
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 11: Undoing?

1590
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: The Shadow Chancellor mel Stride is the UK's financial regulator

1591
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 2: needs to have a look at this. Does he have

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01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 2: a point?

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 10: Yes he does. Kenny bad Knock has appointment. She says

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01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 10: that Reeves should resign, as does Nigel Faraj. Okay, what

1595
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 10: we've had now is that the boss of the Office

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 10: for Budget Responsibility has resigned for having allowed his organization

1597
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 10: to release figures earlier than was appropriate. But it doesn't

1598
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 10: disguise the fact that the retel Reeves still appeared before

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 10: the public and did not mention did not mention information

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01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 10: she knew to be true, which was that the tax

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01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 10: receipts were good enough for her not to need to

1602
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 10: raise taxes. She knew that didn't say it. It's pretty

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 10: disgraceful and it's not all over yet for Reeves and Starmer.

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01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: I was going to say, can they dig themselves? I mean,

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01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: from this side of the world. I'm sure there are

1606
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: some people who thought that what happened was good, but

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Speaker 2: I can't find them, and I certainly haven't heard them.

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01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: It seems Britain is upset of not a gas than

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01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:02,799
Speaker 2: what they delivered.

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Speaker 10: No, the country is aghast. And you know, whilst the

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01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 10: budget itself didn't freak out the markets in the way,

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Speaker 10: which that was the one thing she wanted. She wanted

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01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 10: to do two things. One keep her backbenchers happy and

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01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 10: two not freak out the markets. She kind of managed

1615
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 10: to do both of those things, but the first by

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01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 10: raising by scrapping the two child benefit cap, and the

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Speaker 10: other by raising taxes anywhere as much as perhaps her

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01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 10: backbenchers would have liked, if we're honest, just by dragging

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 10: more people into higher tax bands. But as time has

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 10: gone on, people have seen that this is an incredibly

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Speaker 10: inect budget which will stifle economic growth, which actually brings

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Speaker 10: more than half a million people into a higher tax band,

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Speaker 10: is especially in this kind of middle of the economy

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Speaker 10: where people are really struggling to get by and doing

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01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 10: the right thing. But it rewards the benefit claimants. It

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01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 10: couldn't be worse in that respect.

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Speaker 2: The Center for Social Justice, which is a think tank,

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01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: claiming that you need now a salary of about seventy

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01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 2: one thousand pounds to match the benefits income for some

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Speaker 2: of the bigger families that she's had. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 10: It is unbelievable. I mean, you could choose your figures.

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 10: I mean the usual one which I go to is,

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01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 10: you know, if someone has got a family and they're

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01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 10: bringing in thirty four thousand pounds per year, they may

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01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 10: as well give up work because they will get more

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 10: money if they're not working. It is as simple as that.

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 10: And yet you know, the less still says no, no, no,

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01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 10: we shouldn't divide the country into people who work and

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01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 10: don't work. We should there is no such division between

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01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 10: the many of the people who are on benefits of

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01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:13,759
Speaker 10: people who are actually working.

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Speaker 16: Well.

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Speaker 10: Some of that is true, but it is also nonetheless

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01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 10: the case. But if you have a situation where you

1645
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 10: know you need to be earning forty fifty thousand quid

1646
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 10: or more in order to be better than someone who's

1647
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 10: doing nothing, then that is a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 2: Sixty eight one polar rid sixty eight percent about just

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01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,080
Speaker 2: thought she should resign? Is she going to? Will she

1650
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: deliver another budget? Do you think?

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Speaker 10: Probably not, because I think she will have to go

1652
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 10: after the next I assume there won't be a budget

1653
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 10: before the next May elections, unless it's a snap spring budget,

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01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 10: and I think at the next May elections, where the

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01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,640
Speaker 10: label will get well and truly trenched, both she and

1656
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 10: Starma will probably be gone. But it is it is

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01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 10: galling that she hangs on that long, frankly, given that

1658
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 10: her first budget was an unmitigated disaster, which did everything

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01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 10: that the Labor manifesto said it wouldn't do, which was,

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01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 10: you know, the premise was to go for growth. She

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Speaker 10: did everything possible to restrict growth and given this day

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Speaker 10: bark of a budget as well, it really is she

1663
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Speaker 10: really has been an appalling chanceller.

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Speaker 2: Just before we leave Libry in Pason miss tula as

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Speaker 2: in Sadik. From what I could read, is there something

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01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 2: to do with family land or something like that? There's

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01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: some sort of land deal in bangladation she's sitting in Britain.

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Speaker 2: I mean, does anything come of this?

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01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 10: Well, well it should. This is a labor MP who

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01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 10: copped a load of land from her very rich family

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Speaker 10: in Bangladesh, all of whom were off trialed out for corruption.

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Speaker 10: And she has been sentenced to two years in prison

1673
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 10: for corruption. She won't serve it because she's not going

1674
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 10: anywhere near Bulgradesh anywhere soon. It's not a good look,

1675
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 10: is it, you know? Which is labor MPs conibing in

1676
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:20,919
Speaker 10: third world corruption? And there's no question that her family

1677
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 10: has many, many grave questions to answer, no matter what

1678
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 10: reservations you put on the Bangladeshi judicial system.

1679
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:31,640
Speaker 2: Why are the doctor's going on strike.

1680
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 10: Because that's what doctors do. They don't do any work.

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01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 10: I needed to ring a doctor today and they told

1682
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 10: me that the clinic had shut at two o'clock. You know, no,

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01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 10: they are perpetually on striking. It is the most radical

1684
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 10: and left wing of all the unions and that is

1685
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 10: more pressure on labor. Labour thought they had bought off

1686
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 10: the doctors. You can't buy off the doctors. You would

1687
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 10: need to give them, I don't know each doctor leek

1688
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 10: to the Stine or some small European country to keep

1689
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 10: them happy. It's just absolutely and this is more chaos.

1690
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Speaker 10: And of course they're doing it right at the time

1691
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 10: when the health service is under pressure, going on strike

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Speaker 10: for five days at.

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Speaker 2: Christmas and all right, make we'll catch up Thursday. Appreciate it.

1694
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Speaker 2: Rod little couple of other things, one of which is

1695
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Speaker 2: particularly interesting to tell you about from Britain. In just

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Speaker 2: a moment eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: B protests in Britain, there was about four thousand, tiny

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01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: little place called Crowbra And so they want to park

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01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 2: five hundred and forty mail asylums se because this is

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01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 2: in the Sussex in the barracks. This is the latest

1703
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: asylum seeker barracks side here and the local township. We're

1704
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 2: far too small for that. So they had a big

1705
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 2: protest over the weekend. Some really interesting advice on prostate

1706
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 2: cancer screening came out the UK National Screening Committee. They

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01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 2: are against routine prostate cancer screening for the majority of men.

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01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,599
Speaker 2: Expert committee suggests mass testing could cause more harm than good.

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01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 2: Chris Hoy as a cyclist, he was disappointed. He's become

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01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: an advocate or screening and all that sort of stuff.

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01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: Disappointed and sadden. But mass screening can miss dying, miss

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01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 2: dangerous cancers and detect ones that don't need treatment. So

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01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 2: they say only men with the Bracker one of the

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01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: Bracker two mutations between the ages of forty five and

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01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 2: sixty one should be offered regular testing. So that's always

1716
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 2: controversial when they say things like that. And then the

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01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 2: weird thing Jeremy Corbyn's party, which is called Your Party.

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01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 2: The funny thing about your Party was they actually put

1719
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 2: the name of the party out to the members and

1720
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 2: gave them options and thirty seven percent of people voted

1721
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: for your Party. The options were your party, our Party,

1722
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: Popular Alliance and for the many.

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Speaker 4: They didn't have a party, mcparty face.

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Speaker 2: They didn't have a party mcparty face, So Jim, I

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01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 2: don't think it goes anywhere. And him and Sultana. Sultana

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01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 2: is the woman who co founded the party with him.

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01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 2: It seemed to get on and she doesn't seem to

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01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: get on with any body, and so I don't know

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01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 2: that that's going to be a thing. Mike. Now, I

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01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 2: mentioned to Brindan Hartley driving the Red Bull left one

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01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: car around Adelaide, Well, yes, I did. I did it yesterday.

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01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 2: James don't come to the party twenty four hours late.

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01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 2: He did really well, as several of the outings were

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01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: in some pretty wet conditions. Yes, they were great. Seeing

1735
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 2: Key was on the stage. Yeah, he got rung up.

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01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 2: I told her the story I made of mine was there.

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01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,559
Speaker 2: He went over there and sent me some video clips

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01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 2: from the whole thing over the weekend. And that particular

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01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 2: car that Brendan was driving was the RB seven, which

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01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 2: was Vettel and Webbers, and he had won. Brendan was

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01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: in Monaco, so they rang him up and said you

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01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 2: want to come down to Adelaide for the weekend. So

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01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: that was fine, but he had never one been to

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01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 2: Adelaide driven that circuit at all. And two never driven

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01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: the car, so they never driven the car and never

1746
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 2: driven the circuit. So he had a great time. So

1747
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: that was nice, and you're right, it's good to see

1748
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 2: Key was on the stage ten away from nine.

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01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: On My Costing Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news dog zedby.

1750
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Now plenty of New World shopers surprised to learn they

1751
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: burned the New World dollars just from weekly shopping. So,

1752
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: according to the New World, there are loads at the moment,

1753
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: loads of New World dollars out there just waiting to

1754
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: be spent for this Christmas. Now you can use them

1755
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 2: to treat yourself to something extra saved on the next shop.

1756
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: Why not a New World And if you don't know

1757
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 2: what your New dollar or New World dollar balance is,

1758
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: check it out because one New World dollar, that is

1759
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 2: the important part, one New World dollar is equal to

1760
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: one yew Zealand dollar when spent in store or online.

1761
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 2: So you can check your balance by asking the helpful

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01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: New World team at the checkout or by downloading the

1763
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 2: New World app. So Christmas perfect time to just spend

1764
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: New World dollars after all. So, and how do you

1765
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 2: earn these New World dollars? Will you earn them? Simply

1766
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 2: by using your club card when you shop and store,

1767
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: or online or even through the app with new Will

1768
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: asking by the way, Honduras, I'm interested in a bit

1769
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 2: of democracy going on in Honduras at the moment's on

1770
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 2: a knife edge. Forty percent of the voters in the

1771
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: Asfura guy, this is the one that's Trump is supporting.

1772
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: He's got forty point five percent of the vote. Nasraala,

1773
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: who's also a conservative, thirty nine percent of the vote.

1774
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 2: So that's with forty percent of the vote. So it's

1775
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: not going to be until tomorrow the next day. Of course,

1776
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 2: Trump threatened that if asfar I didn't win, it's stopped

1777
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: funding Honduras. But that's how Trump rolls, isn't it, Mike.

1778
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: Con recessionary times, organizations need to pivot and hustle because

1779
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 2: the market has changed. Instead, many suffer from boiling frog syndrome,

1780
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 2: sitting still and hoping demand returns to New Zealand. Business

1781
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 2: needs to pivot and hustle more and shed the victim attitude.

1782
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: What an excellent text. Well done. Appreciate that, Mike. I

1783
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 2: remember years back you said you loved immigration, and now

1784
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: the world seems to be suffering from it. What do

1785
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: you reckon, Well, Paul, I reckon you want to differentiate

1786
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 2: between what I think you're referencing, which is what I

1787
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 2: was talking about before, which is not immigration at all.

1788
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: It's asylum seekers, who are completely different category, and also

1789
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 2: the other form of immigration in that particular part of

1790
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 2: the world of the UK, which is a legal immigration.

1791
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,479
Speaker 2: What I'm in favor of, always have been, always will be,

1792
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 2: is legal immigration. And this is a country that could

1793
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 2: use a lot more people, and if you bring in

1794
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: the right people with the right skills to do the

1795
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 2: right things, it can be an amazing place. So I

1796
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,759
Speaker 2: was for it then and I'm for it now. Five

1797
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 2: away from.

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01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: Nine trending now with ham Swarehouse the real house of

1799
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: Fragrances right now.

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01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,640
Speaker 2: What happened was with Shawn Combs. When he knew he

1801
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,879
Speaker 2: was about to get arrested, he went and hired cameraman

1802
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 2: because that's what you do when you're about to get arrested,

1803
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: and they follow him around so you build up a

1804
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 2: bit of footage. Now it turns out that footage has

1805
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: ended up in the hands of FID Decent. Now Fidscent

1806
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 2: and did It had a feud and that's been going

1807
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 2: on for ages because that's what happens in the rapper

1808
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 2: world anyway, is firty cents. Now, this producer of a

1809
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: four part doco that Netflix have picked up, and it's

1810
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: called Sean Combs The Reckoning.

1811
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 16: We have to find somebody that to work with us,

1812
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 16: that has dealt in the dirtiest of dirty business.

1813
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: Were loose.

1814
01:26:52,400 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 8: Puffy Puff Daddy, dirty.

1815
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 3: Show called.

1816
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 1: All of these read incarnations, all of those name changes.

1817
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 2: Are attacked to really bad deeds.

1818
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 14: Everything in life, You're going to have people that are

1819
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 14: bad and people that are good.

1820
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 11: You have to choose yourself in turn.

1821
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 2: On Netflix tonight at nine, the MRI results from Trump

1822
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 2: just in Developing News. Comprehensive executive physical advanced imaging was

1823
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: performed because men of his age benefit from a thorough evaluation.

1824
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:45,679
Speaker 11: Anyway.

1825
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 2: The questions were, what happened in the MRI, What bit

1826
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 2: of the body did they do? Blah blah blah. They've

1827
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 2: released the apparently spine and apparently. They say he's supersonic.

1828
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 2: They say he can fly, they say he doesn't even

1829
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: need a cape. They say he's made of gold, real gold.

1830
01:27:58,600 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: It's incredible.

1831
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 4: Do you go to the same doctor is Biden.

1832
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 2: I reckon back tomorrow morning from six as always, Happy Days.

1833
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,679
Speaker 3: You love me, Here meansy.

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01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,640
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01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,840
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