1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: E scooters are still the thing. Acc claims have now 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: hit fourteen million this for the year so far. That's 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,079 Speaker 1: up from say, six million five years ago. So the 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: government is looking to move the EA scooters into cycle 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: lanes now. Jackson Love is the co creator of Flamingo 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: scooters and is with us Jackson. 7 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Morning, Good morning, Mike. Are you going very well? 8 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Indeed, your ones are the purple ones? Is flaming to 9 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: the purple ones? 10 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Where the pink ones? 11 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: The pink ones? 12 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: My apology the key, We owned ones, the key. 13 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: That's what we want. We want some patriotism. Just give 14 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: us a quick insight into the market. Is the market 15 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: uses all that sort of stuff? Is it still growing 16 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: or is it settled or what? 17 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, absolutely, from our perspective, it's going so yeah, 18 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: good uptake, good increase. And what we're seeing is usage 19 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: moved to more genuine mode shurts, so much more travel 20 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: on the weekdays supposed recreationally on the weekend. 21 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Ah. That's interesting because I was going to say the opposite, 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: but you would know more than I. I'm just seeing 23 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: a bunch of people wandering around aimlessly, So you would 24 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: say the last mile thing is a thing now. 25 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely yep, and seeing them replace those short distance car 26 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: journeys as well. 27 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: So if you put these things in bike lanes or 28 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: cycle lanes, you're going to need the lanes in the 29 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: first place. So how are you going to handle that? 30 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, how would that rule work if you don't 31 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: have a cycle line. 32 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: Well, I think, yeah, we're pretty lucky at the moment 33 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: that scooters can be used on both footpaths or on 34 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: the road. We see sort of our earlier adopters wanting 35 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: a comfortable location or sort of a you know, an 36 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: introduction on the footpath, and then our more experienced riders 37 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: on the road. And I think just adding the cycle 38 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: paths or the cycle lanes makes a lot of sense, 39 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: you know, clear up confusion, and it's just a wind 40 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: for common sense and for both riders. 41 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: And people would welcome it, you would argue as opposed 42 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: to going, well, hold on, the more rules there are, 43 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: the less likely I am to use an these scooter 44 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: if someone's going to ping me. 45 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, well, exactly right. I think it's adding an 46 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: extra option, And like you say, biplanes definitely offer a 47 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: safer environment than the road, but also help keep footpaths 48 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 2: clear and more comfortable for pedestrians. 49 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Do you guys do the sit down version, like with 50 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: the seat where you sit down, do you do that? 51 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have some of the sit down versions. They 52 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: prove pretty popular for the slightly longer journeys and potentially 53 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: increase accessibility for those who can't stand for long periods, 54 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: but not so much in winter. Mike, no one wants 55 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: a wet bum. 56 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: That is the truth. That is the truth. The best 57 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: quote of the morning so far. It is only seven 58 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: to twenty, but no one wants a wet bump and 59 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: you can't argue with that sort of logic. Jackson Love 60 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: who's the co creator of Flamingo, and they are the 61 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: pink ones, not the purple ones. 62 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 63 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 64 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.