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Speaker 1: Tim Wilson's with us along with Kayhawk's been good morning

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Speaker 1: to use to good morning.

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Speaker 2: We start by just Reclintick. Here's the thing I was

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Speaker 2: just cementing this with man, It's so unfair. The only

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Speaker 2: person who has an outlet to re butt your pile

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Speaker 2: of b stories you tell about us is Glenn because

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Speaker 2: he's a microphone. I said to Sam, Sam needs to

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Speaker 2: be miked up permanently. I need to be miked up

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Speaker 2: all week to be able so that we can come

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Speaker 2: back and Rebut before friends start texting me and responding

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Speaker 2: to your stories, which are there's a there's an element

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Speaker 2: of truth to them, but a lot of it has

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Speaker 2: just been for your audience, and they lap it up

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Speaker 2: and they start texting you, and I'm like, good one,

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Speaker 2: we're the butt of some more jokes than aren't even real.

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Speaker 1: Who's your friends waiting out them?

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Speaker 2: It's so unfair.

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Speaker 1: Who's your friends?

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Speaker 3: So don't you guys? Don't you guys even have a

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Speaker 3: son in London? Is that? Is this? How far this goes?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just know the seventeen years is not

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Speaker 2: a pain in the ark. She's a delight. In fact,

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Speaker 2: she would be the crims of the cream of the

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Speaker 2: children to be careful, so she's awesome. Seconds. We did

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Speaker 2: not throw out the ambrosia apples because I do not

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Speaker 2: waste food policy in my house, so we did not

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Speaker 2: throw those out.

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Speaker 1: So they're just sitting there rotting?

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Speaker 2: Are they badly? I did not ask for I never.

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Speaker 2: I did not ask for receipts on the avocados. I

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Speaker 2: just said, who spends four dollars on an avocado? You're insane.

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Speaker 2: That's way too much money and way too many avocados

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Speaker 2: times four. Because I did not ask the receipt.

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Speaker 1: Come to my rescue, Tim because I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: let her down.

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Speaker 2: It's momentum sore. I didn't understand his logic, He goes,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if they'd be good or bad because

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Speaker 2: He goes, I didn't have so I got four. I said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you got all four the same. It's not like

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Speaker 2: you've got a brown one and are I got four

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Speaker 2: green And like avocados, they've all ripened on the same day.

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Speaker 2: And now I've got for avocados because no one else.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel my pain?

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Speaker 3: Bob? Yeah, you know what I feel everyone's pain at

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Speaker 3: the moment. I just look, he probably tried, tried to

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Speaker 3: do a nice thing, Kate. He's just a bit of

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Speaker 3: a dunderhead. He missed her stuff up.

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Speaker 2: I I've been on well this week. So so I

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Speaker 2: did send him out in theod mircl which is where

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Speaker 2: he never goes. He hasn't been in years.

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Speaker 3: And he's so sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to send you in to suid market,

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Speaker 2: he was like, and he came back. I loved it.

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Speaker 2: It was so gonna say a good time. And I

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Speaker 2: chatted working the check out and I bought the sandwich

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Speaker 2: and I bought that. Anyway, he frees started and he

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Speaker 2: came home. Was like, black breeze. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what you want to wait.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, you got to have a shopping list. I had.

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Speaker 1: I had a shopping list, but then I had here's

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Speaker 1: my problem. I panicked on I panicked at the end

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Speaker 1: because I got a text from Hyperdrive. Hyperdrive were coming

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Speaker 1: around to fix the puncture, right, and so.

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Speaker 3: Wait, wait, you're you're you're you're shifting the blame to HYPERDRIVEAU.

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Speaker 1: I think it's entirely the fault because they said they

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Speaker 1: can track the driver. And then I'm in the supermarket

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Speaker 1: for Hyperdrive to turn up for my puncture. Anyway, I'm

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Speaker 1: halfway through the shopping list. Beat beat Hyperdrive drivers on

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Speaker 1: the row. He's five ks. Wait, wait, you're an hour early,

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Speaker 1: and there's no reply. There's no like, you're an hour early.

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Speaker 1: You can't do it. They've just got to track the lver.

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Speaker 2: Have had thing about. Here's thinking about how to drive

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Speaker 2: term And I'm glad you raise that, because that's that's

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Speaker 2: that's another good story. And if anyone follows Tom Sainsbury's

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Speaker 2: boomer dad on Instagram, this is Mikey hyperdre So I

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Speaker 2: there's some people who advertise on I've heard the jingle

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Speaker 2: watch your name? And he's like Michael, And she's like,

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Speaker 2: watch your email? Where to send you quote? And he's like,

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Speaker 2: my email? I think it's oh my email, Mike at no, Mike, no,

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Speaker 2: We'll do it now because they don't want to have

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Speaker 2: to bring you back to let you do the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: And then so she's obviously saying, well, you're going to

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Speaker 2: Mike's like, okay, how do I do that? So if

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Speaker 2: I just press pay critic card? Oh so I need

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Speaker 2: my critics right.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is why can we not? Can we not

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Speaker 3: throw Hyperdrive under the bus, because they were clearly dealing

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Speaker 3: with someone of diminished capacity. That's why they came early,

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Speaker 3: make sure there was no discomfort. Maybe make him a

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Speaker 3: nice lukewarm cup of camel mild tea and just everything

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Speaker 1: Listening to that story, even I sound pathetic, kid, it's

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Speaker 1: all good. Hyperdrive can get you a new boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: Hyperdrive head and air and that segment. So there was

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Speaker 2: and hyper drive when stayed to do an excellent job

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Speaker 2: that I had a screw in my tire. They did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they did a very good job. A lot of

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Speaker 3: They did a good job.

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Speaker 1: The Yeah, there's a lot of advice around the avocados

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Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know that. That's great advice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, text, thanks very much. Do you have a pay

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Speaker 1: gap ginder pay gap at your corporate Tom?

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Speaker 3: No, we don't.

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Speaker 1: How do you know that?

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Speaker 3: Because because we is.

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Speaker 1: There unconscious placed him.

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Speaker 3: Now the whole unconscious bias thing that's another rabbit hole.

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Speaker 3: But we evaluate, we evaluate people on the faces of

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Speaker 1: But that's that's the sensible way to do it. And

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Speaker 1: unfortunately some of the people who argue.

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Speaker 3: For it, and also the skills that they bring to

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Speaker 1: Any good the job, and so I get all that,

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Speaker 1: but the problem is that there's a gap apparently that

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Speaker 1: to close the gap. Hence the gap hasn't been closed.

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Speaker 1: Whereas if you just judge people on whether they're any

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Speaker 3: I think it's good. I think it's good to have

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Speaker 3: outside reflection on on remuneration. So we've got We've got

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Speaker 3: an HR person that we bring in from time to time.

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Speaker 3: She works in the charitable sector. She knows what the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough to Katie, do you want to take

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't really want to take a victory lap

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Speaker 2: on it, but I just I just feel it's actually

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Speaker 2: what you're referring to is. At the time, I said,

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Speaker 2: this is crazy and they need to find them really quickly.

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Speaker 2: And I got piled on by everybody saying, you have

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Speaker 2: it's just a dad taking his kid's version. There's nothing

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, it's just aggravated homeschooling. Don't what's the problem?

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Speaker 2: I just and now I'm just like, wow, I just

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Speaker 2: It isn't good, and it's just deeply tragic. I think

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Speaker 2: they don't just suddenly turn up swarming the place for

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Speaker 1: So so how was it did you ever get to

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Speaker 1: the bottom of how you explain the defense that people,

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Speaker 1: because you did get piled on by a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: How what's the mindset.

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Speaker 2: That the colleagues it works.

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Speaker 1: Let's name them. Let's name some of those colleagues. Who

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Speaker 1: Were they in management? No, it was Were they the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the lower downs? They were fellow hosts.

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Speaker 3: Part of the vocabulary markers.

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Speaker 2: They're the lower downs with lower downs. Just just I

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Speaker 2: don't know people. I mean, I think people think that

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Speaker 2: quintessentially Kiwi thing is that you know you can go

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Speaker 2: bush and that you can it's it's fine, But there

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Speaker 2: was nothing fine about it. He did about the mum's

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Speaker 2: permission with that, you know, there was everything about it

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Speaker 1: The kids. The kids aren't even in school. That's just

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Speaker 1: straight up and down illegal. It's a legal not to

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Speaker 1: send your kids to school, full stop.

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Speaker 3: And the character issue here too. I mean, this guy's

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Speaker 3: up on charges of aggravated what was the aggravated robbery

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Speaker 3: aggravated wounded.

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Speaker 1: Was last night saying, oh, we don't think it was him.

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Speaker 3: Well, the cops do think it was made the charge.

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Speaker 1: That sort of how the system works, isn't it really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Hey, can you do you mind me going on holiday

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Speaker 1: with Linda?

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Speaker 2: Who's Linda?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you like you lost the bed?

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Speaker 3: You lost the bet?

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Speaker 1: Sorry? Tom? You and I listening for the non listener.

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Speaker 3: Try the old bait and sweat.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, lind wife, Yes, so Glenn lost a

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Speaker 3: He said that you lost the bed.

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Speaker 1: I did not.

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Speaker 2: I would play an excellent holiday. I'll give you that.

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Speaker 2: You would have a good time with Linda.

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Speaker 1: You reckon? That is that what they call a good

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Speaker 1: time Linda?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when they came, she would be a good time Linda.

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Speaker 2: I mean she was clean, but I'm pretty sure how

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Speaker 2: many drinks?

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Speaker 3: You guys?

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Speaker 1: This is getting into a dangerous area?

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Speaker 2: Is if it already already hadn't got into a dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Are shut it down?

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Speaker 1: I'm overtally sexual, don't It's not.

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Speaker 2: Long enough for all all that, all the pain I've

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Speaker 2: got to redback. Can you please not say like that

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Speaker 2: on her as well?

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Speaker 1: It's just beyond and you dick me on Friday. I'm

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Speaker 1: coming to get you Monday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know what, Kate, I'm getting the cold tar soap.

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Speaker 3: I'll be down at it be in twenty minutes. Shot

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Speaker 3: me there.

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Speaker 1: I've got a tidy mid I've got to tidy myself up,

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Speaker 1: and can you get me out a peer of nutcrackers,

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Speaker 1: Cadie and I'll pack when I get home. Oh goodness,

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Speaker 1: Tim Wilson, Kate hawks me for another week. For more

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