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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp.

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Speaker 1: From News talks at gardening with steel shaft free autumn

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Speaker 1: upgrades on Still's best sellers.

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Speaker 2: We're into the garden rud climb past. A very good morning, sir, A.

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Speaker 3: Good morning on this wonderfully weird sunday. Weird. Have you

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Speaker 3: noticed how many you've had some really strange cal Julie.

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Speaker 3: I was sitting in bed, going, oh god, this is funny.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, this is a day. That's right. It's not even

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Speaker 2: a full moon, is it?

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Speaker 3: No, No, it isn't it is it. It's just it's

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Speaker 3: actually quite lovely. It's lovely, everything goes everywhere.

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Speaker 2: Oh look it is. It's one of those scatological days. Yes, right, watch,

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Speaker 2: well I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 3: First of all, tell people if they want to call.

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Speaker 3: Oh wait, und listen. This is ridiculous. This is a

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Speaker 3: brilliant story. There was this little homing a little quite

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Speaker 3: a large homing pigeon that decided to make its house

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Speaker 3: on my front lawn. Oh really, yes. And it had

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Speaker 3: two bands, one on the left and one on the right,

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Speaker 3: and the right bend had an O mu Cold twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, number forty eight. Now I've been literally for

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Speaker 3: the last week. It's been with us for a week.

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to find out who this is or

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Speaker 3: what this is. On the on the rond side, left

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Speaker 3: in side is a black tag. So as soon as

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Speaker 3: you start looking at tags on these legs of pigeons,

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Speaker 3: you get DOC. And DOC doesn't do homing pigeons. It

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Speaker 3: does normal bending, you know what I mean. So then

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Speaker 3: I thought, you know what I should do. I've got

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Speaker 3: this mate of mine, Peter Reesy's a wonderful old mentor

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Speaker 3: of mine. I might take that pigeon and take it

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Speaker 3: to his place in the old folks home where he lives.

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Speaker 3: And then, because I should pick it, I didn't dare

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Speaker 3: to do it because I would get into trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, living with a homing pigeon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but here you go. Guess what. But if you

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Speaker 3: would do it, it would fly straight back to my place.

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, as a homing pigeon, it's

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Speaker 2: kind of failed the essential part of being a homing pigeon,

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Speaker 2: isn't it, And that it didn't get back home exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I did not win any races, no, exactly.

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Speaker 3: So I took it down the quarry about half a

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Speaker 3: kilometer three three hours later, wing was back. It can hurt,

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Speaker 3: it's not in a good condition, but it can fly.

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Speaker 3: But it's not like a whoopede do But.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just phenomenal, aren't they?

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Speaker 3: Thelieving you know?

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Speaker 2: And I know, like we had family back in the

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Speaker 2: Netherlands who would would have pigeons and they would, you know,

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Speaker 2: they'd go off down to Belgium and then they'd release

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Speaker 2: the pigeon there and then the pigeon would turn up

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Speaker 2: back and hey, nobuddy, you know six seven hours later

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Speaker 2: or something like that. Look, it's a fantastic sport. But

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Speaker 2: you're one perhaps retirement time.

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Speaker 3: I think it's well past the time.

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Speaker 2: This homing ability has been somewhat reduced.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was my story of this week. And

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Speaker 3: I reckon it. Whatever I do, it will come back

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Speaker 3: to my place. Because initially I gave it a little

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Speaker 3: you can walk to it, pick it up, so unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: So I caught it and took photos and thought, this

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Speaker 2: But truly in New Zealand is like a homing pigeon

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Speaker 2: register online or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I've been looking for that and it shows you some

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Speaker 3: pictures of you know, and it is a bit like that.

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Speaker 3: And my band color is is what is it black

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Speaker 3: I've forgotten. But it doesn't tell me who O n

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Speaker 3: you is? What the what the code as anybody someone's listening.

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Speaker 2: Then we know where your pigeon is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but also we know where you where you where

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Speaker 3: it should be the moment.

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Speaker 2: You all right, that's frivolous. A very good morning, Matt.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Oh good?

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Speaker 5: Thank you go for itth.

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Speaker 3: Mandarin truth Mandarin. Yeah, yeah, what's a good time of

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Speaker 3: the year the planet? Mendering tree here?

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Speaker 6: What kind of source so I put into hang on?

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Speaker 3: You want to plant it at this time? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: It's the what time the year?

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Speaker 5: The planet like an easy peel mendorin true?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely coming onto autumn, yes, because you know that after

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Speaker 3: time to do it now. And the nice thing is

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Speaker 3: to give it a nice soil if you like that.

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Speaker 3: It's very flexible and very full of organic material, but

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Speaker 3: also slightly higher than the landscape in which you planted,

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Speaker 3: let's say in your garden. If you make it so

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Speaker 3: that it is slightly above the level of your garden,

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Speaker 3: you'll find that even when it rains too hard and

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Speaker 3: it won't drown, so to speak, because if you've got

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Speaker 3: on and so forth. So slightly higher up raised with

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Speaker 3: a couple of bricks or whatever, you know what I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, Good luck with that, Matt. I'm sort of holding off.

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Speaker 2: I've got a little project where I have to do

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Speaker 2: quite a bit of planting, but I'm holding off because

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Speaker 2: I think the ground is so incredibly dry and we're

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Speaker 2: still not getting reliable rainfall in Auckland. Am I right

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Speaker 2: in holding off?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 2: I think it's you know, approach to do that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would do that now, because if it's really dry,

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Speaker 3: you need to do the hand washing the whole time. No,

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Speaker 3: not a good idea. So absolutely wait for a couple

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Speaker 3: more regular rain you can start doing it. But again,

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Speaker 3: be aware not to drown it.

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Speaker 2: Right, because I mean, look, I think all of us

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Speaker 2: you know, mowed the lawns yesterday. It's still dry as dust, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, yes it is. Actually it's not too bad where

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Speaker 2: And ours is still pretty miserable. To be fair. Someone

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Speaker 2: has asked, could you please mention that number again? My

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Speaker 2: and could possibly help you. So what's the band number

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Speaker 2: on your some word wayward homing pigeon.

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Speaker 3: It's it's on the right hand side. That's the only

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Speaker 3: it's two and twenty four solds last year's bird.

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Hello. Yeah, rude an extension of a question I've asked

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Speaker 6: it's having a reasonable I picked against those mongol paper wasps,

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Speaker 6: stuff you get on the beach forest, beech tree.

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Speaker 3: It is the same stuff that it might be.

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Speaker 6: Now if I if I hammer the kneme oil a

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Speaker 3: Groves, have you got caterpillars there?

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Speaker 3: Now what I would do now is do the digital

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Speaker 3: control of the fits? Do what digital control?

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Speaker 6: I haven't got enough fingers.

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Speaker 3: You only need to, yeah, a four fingers and a

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Speaker 3: not to damage the plant, of course, but not Honestly,

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Speaker 6: They make a comment on the knee more container that

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Speaker 6: it may affect you know something or rather, so I

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Speaker 6: was a bit consumed about that. Okay, So I'm just

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Speaker 6: going to cross the fingers.

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Speaker 3: And cross opposite opposite thumb and fore fingers opposite. Then

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Speaker 3: that sticky stuff is literally edible. Pool.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I've seen other wasps can get into this and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, they will. They will use that absolutely

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Speaker 6: Well that gives me an idea. And I've just got

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Speaker 5: Graham, Graham.

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Speaker 2: Hey, there's a text for you, mate. You can do

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Speaker 2: this during the break rod tell rud to report the

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Speaker 2: lost pigeons. Buy email to Edmund dot manager at p

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Speaker 2: r n Z dot org dot nz. So anyone that

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Speaker 2: You can see the text thing.

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Speaker 3: No, I can't hang on. No, oh I can't. Okay, funny,

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Speaker 2: I'll send you the details.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, brilliant.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break. If you'd like to talk

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Speaker 2: to Ruth, you should call us right now. We've only

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Speaker 2: got him for another fifteen minutes. Eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: ten eighty is the number to call. God was but

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Speaker 2: maybe called Pete first video work. The resident builder news

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Speaker 2: lines of let up Jason are very very good morning

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 7: Oh good morning. I was wondering if some red would

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Speaker 7: be able to tell me how I could find wetters again.

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Speaker 7: He told me about a year ago. I was living

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Speaker 7: to the bark and blow on it, and I did that.

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Speaker 7: I can't get him now, Massy, and I was wondering

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Speaker 7: if he could retell me how.

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Speaker 5: To do it well.

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Speaker 3: In the Auckland region, there will be wetter in many

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Speaker 3: different places, and it could be on all sorts of plants,

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Speaker 3: all sorts of trees, also of hosts. What I would

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Speaker 3: do is I would go, what do you want? What

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Speaker 3: do you want to keep one as a pet or something?

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Speaker 3: Or do you want to ever look at them?

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Speaker 5: I want?

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Speaker 7: You did tell me to peel back the back and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sometimes you yeah, you can do that. But

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Speaker 3: it's a wonderful thing to do.

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Speaker 7: You go on yeah, yeah, yeah, and just blow on there.

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Speaker 2: Say what's the blowing thing to Well, the blowing.

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Speaker 3: Thing is actually makes them. You see them move. It's

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Speaker 3: yeah that's right. Yeah, awesome. Good luck with that.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with you fosking around looking for witters. I

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Speaker 5: Oh, to be fair.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, as a kid, right, Donald, greeting to you.

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Speaker 7: I wonder if it's the right time to plant then

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Speaker 3: Yes you can. Actually both of them partially would work

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Speaker 2: All the best your Donald on that one. That's awesome. Hey,

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Speaker 2: butch good morning, oh good morning.

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Speaker 5: Hey, look, thank you for taking my call. I've got

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Speaker 3: So so you chilies and capsicums are still going all right.

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Speaker 3: They're usually quite hardy plants, even in my tunnel house.

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Speaker 5: Yes, quite quite a letdown. They started out fantastic. The

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Speaker 3: Tell me, is it you're talking about one of those

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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, it's been in full sunlight. And the to wheels,

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Speaker 5: What is that?

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Speaker 3: What was that made of?

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Speaker 5: Look, when it came at there was a there was

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Speaker 3: that would work. Well.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think we might have. You know, it's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you leave it on for three days. No,

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Speaker 2: Overwording, which it seems hard to do at this time

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Speaker 2: call this morning, Janine, Janae, Hey there, hi, Hi, I just.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to talk about the caterpillars on bressicas,

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Speaker 4: you know, the broccolis and colleaues and things. Do you

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Speaker 3: Like what the how do you.

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Speaker 4: Were just like we had broccoli the other day, head

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Speaker 4: over thirty caterpillars in the head of Oh no, it's.

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Speaker 3: Too much, No, not too much, it is. I just

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Speaker 3: take them as much as you can, you know, pull

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Speaker 3: them out. You know what they look like. They're actually

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Speaker 3: once you got your eye and it's quite easy to find. Otherwise,

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Speaker 3: try some of the Yates products like you know that

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Speaker 3: that that work on caterpillars, and they don't have to

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Speaker 3: be dearis dust. Deist dust is actually called organic, but

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Speaker 3: it's a bit it's a lot of bit dodgy, yet

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Speaker 2: Good luck with it, Jenny and all the very busy

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Speaker 2: and thank you again for your contribution and thank you

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Speaker 2: for OMU forty eight.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm going to ring that person up. That's good.

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Speaker 5: Look luck.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with the rid next week. We'll catch

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Speaker 2: up with you next week. Have a great week, Take

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