1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b. 3 00:00:14,293 --> 00:00:44,973 Speaker 2: Downtown Jee seventy jet seventy Lad. That is Sharon van Dden. 4 00:00:45,493 --> 00:00:48,453 Speaker 3: She is playing at the Other's Way the Evening that seventeen. 5 00:00:48,533 --> 00:00:51,813 Speaker 3: Chris Schultz music reviewers with us this morning, and you 6 00:00:51,933 --> 00:00:54,413 Speaker 3: reckon Today's the day, right, Today's the day. This is 7 00:00:54,493 --> 00:00:56,573 Speaker 3: a summer fisty season begins tonight. 8 00:00:56,853 --> 00:00:59,613 Speaker 4: Look at this grin. I'm sorry happy Chris. 9 00:01:00,053 --> 00:01:01,933 Speaker 3: You literally came to the office and You're like, I'm pumped, 10 00:01:01,933 --> 00:01:03,373 Speaker 3: and I was like, what are you excited about it? 11 00:01:03,413 --> 00:01:07,173 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm excited. I'm not putting it on for 12 00:01:07,253 --> 00:01:09,213 Speaker 3: the radio. No, no, no, I'm thrilled to be here. 13 00:01:09,293 --> 00:01:12,053 Speaker 4: I've been waiting all winter for today. This feels like 14 00:01:12,173 --> 00:01:14,653 Speaker 4: the kickoff of the summer festival season. We've got our 15 00:01:14,693 --> 00:01:18,093 Speaker 4: first big outdoor show with Rufus Desoul at Western Springs, 16 00:01:18,733 --> 00:01:21,173 Speaker 4: and then the one I'm going to is the k 17 00:01:21,373 --> 00:01:23,693 Speaker 4: Road Festival The Other's Way, which is it's a bit 18 00:01:23,693 --> 00:01:26,333 Speaker 4: of a different music festival. They take over k Road 19 00:01:26,413 --> 00:01:29,413 Speaker 4: in about twelve venues around it. Basically, you've got to 20 00:01:29,413 --> 00:01:32,373 Speaker 4: wear running shoes and just charge between the venues trying 21 00:01:32,413 --> 00:01:34,293 Speaker 4: to get in to see your favorite access forty three 22 00:01:34,373 --> 00:01:37,493 Speaker 4: acts player and all of those venues they get maxed 23 00:01:37,533 --> 00:01:39,773 Speaker 4: out really quickly. But it's just so much fun. 24 00:01:40,293 --> 00:01:40,453 Speaker 1: You know. 25 00:01:40,813 --> 00:01:42,813 Speaker 4: We've just got through this two week period where we've 26 00:01:42,853 --> 00:01:46,053 Speaker 4: been dining out on nostalgia. It's been Metallica and Tull, 27 00:01:46,653 --> 00:01:48,853 Speaker 4: Lenny Kravitz, all these acts from the nineties, and now 28 00:01:48,893 --> 00:01:51,893 Speaker 4: we get a chance to see some new stuff. So 29 00:01:51,973 --> 00:01:56,533 Speaker 4: I'm really really fizzing about that. It's an interesting time 30 00:01:56,613 --> 00:02:00,173 Speaker 4: note to sort of survey what's ahead this summer. 31 00:02:00,173 --> 00:02:03,533 Speaker 3: Year, because there have been some obviously been some like 32 00:02:03,773 --> 00:02:06,853 Speaker 3: on the downsides and big announcements. I mean, You've got 33 00:02:06,893 --> 00:02:10,573 Speaker 3: one Love has been canceled, Womad is taking a year 34 00:02:10,693 --> 00:02:13,573 Speaker 3: off officially, although obviously that you know, I think in 35 00:02:13,613 --> 00:02:15,893 Speaker 3: their announcement they said for Womad that you know, there 36 00:02:15,933 --> 00:02:18,253 Speaker 3: are just big financial pressures at the moment that they're facing. 37 00:02:18,333 --> 00:02:20,373 Speaker 3: They want to protect the future of the festival, but 38 00:02:20,453 --> 00:02:22,733 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, obviously there's a lot of pressure 39 00:02:22,933 --> 00:02:25,853 Speaker 3: on festival promoters and producers at the moment. 40 00:02:25,973 --> 00:02:28,893 Speaker 4: I see music festivals as my version of the housing market. 41 00:02:28,933 --> 00:02:31,653 Speaker 4: It's a bell weather for the economy. And if festivals 42 00:02:31,653 --> 00:02:33,773 Speaker 4: are popping off, if tickets are selling, if there's heaps 43 00:02:33,853 --> 00:02:36,573 Speaker 4: of them, the economy probably is doing okay. And when 44 00:02:36,613 --> 00:02:39,093 Speaker 4: things are tracking as they are now with people taking 45 00:02:39,213 --> 00:02:42,173 Speaker 4: years off listening is another festival that is often the 46 00:02:42,253 --> 00:02:45,293 Speaker 4: first big one of the summer that didn't happen this year, 47 00:02:46,173 --> 00:02:48,373 Speaker 4: then the thing there's probably you know, a problem, and 48 00:02:48,453 --> 00:02:51,853 Speaker 4: that one Love organizers did cite the economy not rebounding 49 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:53,813 Speaker 4: enough for them to trust that they can sell enough 50 00:02:53,853 --> 00:02:57,693 Speaker 4: tickets to their big two day events, and Toldonger when 51 00:02:57,733 --> 00:03:01,293 Speaker 4: you add in Juicy Fests in liquidation, Timeless Tour in liquidation, 52 00:03:01,933 --> 00:03:05,453 Speaker 4: and Eden Festival also in liquidations, it is just it's 53 00:03:05,533 --> 00:03:08,413 Speaker 4: a little more constrained. But I would point out that 54 00:03:08,773 --> 00:03:11,373 Speaker 4: some of these festivals have the best lineups that I've 55 00:03:11,453 --> 00:03:15,373 Speaker 4: seen post COVID. I'm thinking about Laneway that's got Chapel 56 00:03:15,453 --> 00:03:17,933 Speaker 4: Rome that everyone's gone to. Lanmee Way is just fizzing 57 00:03:18,013 --> 00:03:21,653 Speaker 4: about that, Rhythm and Vines has Turnstile and Kid Cuddy 58 00:03:21,733 --> 00:03:24,173 Speaker 4: one of the best lineups that is almost making me 59 00:03:24,693 --> 00:03:26,733 Speaker 4: consider whether they can go and join the kids. 60 00:03:28,973 --> 00:03:30,413 Speaker 3: I know, what do you mean almost? 61 00:03:32,493 --> 00:03:34,733 Speaker 4: And then the big one, of course, Electric Avenue. This 62 00:03:34,933 --> 00:03:38,133 Speaker 4: festival in christ Church is just it's going off. It's 63 00:03:38,253 --> 00:03:40,653 Speaker 4: bigger than it's ever been. It's growing every year and 64 00:03:40,693 --> 00:03:42,613 Speaker 4: they've got the big booking of the some of the 65 00:03:42,733 --> 00:03:47,653 Speaker 4: first spit Ends reunion. So yeah, it's it's tricky things 66 00:03:47,733 --> 00:03:49,973 Speaker 4: that are working or working really well, and then other 67 00:03:50,053 --> 00:03:51,893 Speaker 4: things just aren't quite getting now. 68 00:03:52,173 --> 00:03:55,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like the the two ends of the 69 00:03:55,773 --> 00:03:59,853 Speaker 3: market are doing well, like the absolute biggest ones being 70 00:03:59,933 --> 00:04:03,093 Speaker 3: Lameway's Rhythm and Vines and Electric av they're doing really well. 71 00:04:03,773 --> 00:04:07,573 Speaker 3: The small indie ones, you know, whether it's like even 72 00:04:07,613 --> 00:04:09,653 Speaker 3: having Sharon van En playing it the other's way is 73 00:04:09,813 --> 00:04:12,053 Speaker 3: amazing that that's fantastic. 74 00:04:12,173 --> 00:04:14,173 Speaker 4: Also sold out, by the way, yeah, nearly sold out. 75 00:04:14,173 --> 00:04:16,133 Speaker 4: I think there's the only main stage tickets for the 76 00:04:16,213 --> 00:04:17,853 Speaker 4: stage in k road leyt Yeah. 77 00:04:18,013 --> 00:04:21,173 Speaker 3: Right, So to have that doing super well, it's the 78 00:04:21,253 --> 00:04:23,173 Speaker 3: sort of in between ers. Do you think maybe that 79 00:04:23,333 --> 00:04:25,493 Speaker 3: you know, that's it's a confidence. 80 00:04:25,133 --> 00:04:28,213 Speaker 4: Game, right, that's what you know. If you're a promoter, 81 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:30,013 Speaker 4: you've got to take a risk, you've got to be 82 00:04:30,093 --> 00:04:32,293 Speaker 4: a bit of a gambler. And I guess when things 83 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:34,573 Speaker 4: are a bit tight, things are a bit gloomy, then 84 00:04:34,853 --> 00:04:38,413 Speaker 4: then maybe you're less likely to take those risks. Also, 85 00:04:38,493 --> 00:04:40,733 Speaker 4: as a consumer, you want to be guaranteed that your 86 00:04:40,773 --> 00:04:43,333 Speaker 4: event's going to happen, and when something like Juicy Fest 87 00:04:43,413 --> 00:04:45,853 Speaker 4: and Timeless to and Eden Festival, yeah, those go under 88 00:04:45,893 --> 00:04:48,133 Speaker 4: and people are struggling to get refunds for some of those. 89 00:04:48,653 --> 00:04:49,293 Speaker 1: But it's not just that. 90 00:04:49,413 --> 00:04:51,053 Speaker 3: It's also that if you're traveling for it and you've 91 00:04:51,053 --> 00:04:52,973 Speaker 3: got accommodation and all of that stuff, and you're flying 92 00:04:53,013 --> 00:04:54,613 Speaker 3: in an A three twenty, then you know it's a 93 00:04:54,773 --> 00:04:55,333 Speaker 3: it's a nightmare. 94 00:04:55,413 --> 00:04:57,413 Speaker 4: Some of these tickets are two fifty three hundred. So 95 00:04:57,533 --> 00:04:59,973 Speaker 4: one thing I would suggest that is new this summer 96 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:03,413 Speaker 4: is that the NZPA, the New Zealand Promoters Associations, issued 97 00:05:03,533 --> 00:05:06,493 Speaker 4: a new vetting system and they've got this tech its 98 00:05:06,573 --> 00:05:08,693 Speaker 4: logo and if you see it attached to the festival, 99 00:05:08,733 --> 00:05:11,053 Speaker 4: you you want to buy a ticket for It means 100 00:05:11,093 --> 00:05:13,253 Speaker 4: the promoters have been vetted and approved and they've put 101 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:15,613 Speaker 4: on events in the past, and that if something happens 102 00:05:15,653 --> 00:05:17,813 Speaker 4: to it, you're probably going to get your money back, right, 103 00:05:18,173 --> 00:05:19,653 Speaker 4: So you want to look out for that tic. I 104 00:05:19,693 --> 00:05:21,773 Speaker 4: think you can see it on the NZPA website. 105 00:05:22,013 --> 00:05:23,493 Speaker 3: It is good actually, just so you can have a 106 00:05:23,533 --> 00:05:26,333 Speaker 3: little bit more confidence in actually supporting these things. Yeah okay, 107 00:05:26,373 --> 00:05:27,733 Speaker 3: so how many are you going to do? You know, 108 00:05:27,773 --> 00:05:28,773 Speaker 3: if you've done the matter. 109 00:05:28,613 --> 00:05:31,453 Speaker 4: As many as possible. I'm definitely going to the big ones, 110 00:05:31,573 --> 00:05:34,173 Speaker 4: Rhythm and Vines. I'm still like, oh, I don't believe. 111 00:05:34,653 --> 00:05:35,933 Speaker 3: You are considering the Advines. 112 00:05:36,493 --> 00:05:37,453 Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be. 113 00:05:37,893 --> 00:05:40,133 Speaker 3: It's amazing. Yeah, I mean, what was supposed to be somewhere. 114 00:05:40,133 --> 00:05:43,733 Speaker 4: Aren't we, you know, supposed to be with family Christmas? 115 00:05:45,133 --> 00:05:47,933 Speaker 3: They'll understand, No, no, it's a yeah. I mean Kid 116 00:05:47,973 --> 00:05:49,133 Speaker 3: Cutty would be amazing. 117 00:05:49,213 --> 00:05:52,173 Speaker 4: And tunstyle the hype kind of that's the first big, 118 00:05:52,493 --> 00:05:55,533 Speaker 4: like you know, punk rock act that that Rhythm and 119 00:05:55,573 --> 00:05:57,493 Speaker 4: Vines has ever had. Their super Hybrid's the only New 120 00:05:57,573 --> 00:06:00,773 Speaker 4: Zealand show they and Kid Cutty are playing. So I'm 121 00:06:00,853 --> 00:06:03,933 Speaker 4: gonna consider it. I'm going to definitely spend Christmas thinking 122 00:06:04,493 --> 00:06:05,453 Speaker 4: maybe I should get there. 123 00:06:05,573 --> 00:06:07,493 Speaker 3: Yeah right, but those the big ones for sure, right, 124 00:06:08,453 --> 00:06:11,893 Speaker 3: yeah you'll be there? Oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, 125 00:06:12,053 --> 00:06:14,813 Speaker 3: very good. Okay, thank you so much. It's gonna be 126 00:06:14,893 --> 00:06:16,813 Speaker 3: very interesting to see how it all goes. But thank goodness, 127 00:06:16,853 --> 00:06:19,613 Speaker 3: things are kicking off so tonight. Rufus Asolt is playing 128 00:06:19,693 --> 00:06:22,533 Speaker 3: Western Springs Day and and the others ways on k 129 00:06:22,693 --> 00:06:24,773 Speaker 3: Road of course, thank you so much, Chris Altz. You 130 00:06:24,813 --> 00:06:27,893 Speaker 3: can find him, of course, on his substack. 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