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Speaker 3: Yep, got a big show for you. But as we've

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Speaker 3: heard this morning, a massive overhaul is coming to the

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Speaker 3: driver's license system, with the government announcing a raft of

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Speaker 3: changes the full license test that will be scramped, with

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Speaker 3: those under twenty five spending a year on they're restricted

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Speaker 3: before moving to their full license. Transport Minister Chris Bishop

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Speaker 3: is on the line now and joins us. Minister, very

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Speaker 3: very good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: To you, Good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 2: How many times did you sit the final test before

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Speaker 2: you part? So this isn't a revenge move, is it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: I said it once, but I actually was quite old.

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Speaker 4: I was actually quite old when I said it. I

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Speaker 4: was my It was in my late twenties, which is

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Speaker 4: a bit unusual. But yeah, I passed it first time.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what I was bloody nervous doing it.

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Speaker 4: It's very anxiety inducing sitting your sitting you're full.

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Speaker 2: So did you sit on your restricted for quite a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and I had more restricted for three four

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Speaker 4: years maybe, which is not really meant to do, but

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Speaker 4: I have my learner's read longer than that.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. So in the new system you

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Speaker 2: full license.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, as long as you drive safe and yeah, don't

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Speaker 4: get any demerits after a year. The new system will

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Speaker 4: mean that you just go on. You have to pay

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Speaker 4: a fee. It'll be about twenty six bucks, so it's

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Speaker 4: quite a cost saving. So to cut the current fees

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Speaker 4: from memories about ninety bucks, so you pay twenty six

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Speaker 4: so you save money and time. Obviously you won't have

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Speaker 2: What was the problem you were trying to solve with

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Speaker 4: It's the latter one. So we know that for many people,

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Speaker 4: access or full driver's license is a critical enabler of work.

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Speaker 4: You know, Luy's ups and I just out this morning

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Speaker 4: sure they can get through the system get their full license.

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Speaker 4: And the young people we met were doing it because

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Speaker 4: So and there'll be many young people out there in

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Speaker 4: the same situation, and we want to increase access, lower

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Speaker 2: What's the option?

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Speaker 3: Did ashureden the learner period through logged practice? How does

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what will be happening there is This is

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Speaker 4: common in states in Australia for example, is the Director

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Speaker 4: so there'll be a minimum number of locked hours you've

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Speaker 4: some kind of Mickey Mouse system where parents just say,

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: We may involve that may involve a statutory decoration in

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Speaker 4: prove that you've You've got your log box. There's apps

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Speaker 4: when and all that. So there's a variety of different things.

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Speaker 4: So that'll be worked out in the next six to

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Speaker 4: nine months and people will know exactly what the system

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Speaker 2: Could driving just be a subject that school because schools

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Speaker 2: don't they teach talk kind of stuff that kids don't need.

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Speaker 2: Should it just being made part of the school curripua curriculum.

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Speaker 2: Kids get taught how to drive at school and when

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Speaker 4: Some schools do that now, to be honest. And you

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Speaker 4: know MSD has a range of programs as well, particularly

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Speaker 4: for you know, some of these younger guys are who

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Speaker 4: you need a driver license as you know, as a taller,

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Speaker 4: social mobility and access to jobs. And that's you know,

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Speaker 4: some of the group we spending time with this morning.

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Speaker 4: MSD funder a range of programs and we'll continue to

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Speaker 4: do that. That is really really important. And you know,

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Speaker 4: certainly the young people I was talking to today when

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Speaker 4: I told them, well, you know, once you've done your

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Speaker 4: don't go over the speed limit, get those demerits, you know,

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Speaker 4: you'll be able to go straight to your fall. You know,

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Speaker 4: they were like, oh shit, that's really good. That's good,

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Speaker 4: that's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Are these changes going to make it easier for people

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Speaker 3: there's been a lot of concern out there that if

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Speaker 3: drive fifty sixty ks to try and find an approved trainer.

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Speaker 3: Is that going to change with the system over.

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Speaker 4: Well, it will mean that you don't have to go

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Speaker 4: and do it twice. Right, So the way it works

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Speaker 4: Then you've got to you know, you've got to wait

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Speaker 4: back and do your full And so yeah, we'll make

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Speaker 4: life easier for people in rural and provincial New Zealand

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Speaker 4: is all about increasing access. So it will make a

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Speaker 4: difference in rural New Zealand for sure.

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Speaker 2: Here's the Texas just come through. Hey, guys, ask bus this.

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Speaker 2: Bet you won't ask him, but ask him this. As

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Speaker 2: these changes lead to more questions, will he reinstate the

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Speaker 2: full licensed test. I've read out the full of.

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Speaker 4: The SAIR question. There'll be a full analysis after three

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Speaker 4: thirty we'll do the full analysis. The officials advised us.

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Speaker 4: The Ministry of Transport officials advised us that they would

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Speaker 4: like to see a twelve month learner period because that's

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Speaker 4: the thing. We're making it easier at the back end

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Speaker 4: to get your full but you'll spend longer normally on

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Speaker 4: those critical skills. And the advice fromy officials was to

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Speaker 4: all of these things are a balance. I mean we

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Speaker 4: could make we could make we could get rid of

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Speaker 4: driver licensing altogether. You know, just let anyone get behind

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Speaker 4: the wheel of a car. Well no one would, no

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Speaker 4: one would say that's a good idea. But we could

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Speaker 4: also make the test, you know, so difficult that no one,

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Speaker 4: we don't do that either because people would say, well

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Speaker 4: that's ridiculous. You know, you need driver's licensing to get

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Speaker 4: rest of it. So all of these things are a balance,

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Speaker 4: and I think we've got the balance right.

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Speaker 2: So what would be the you know, the strongest reassurance

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Speaker 2: you could give parents some who are texting and who

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Speaker 7: A couple of things.

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Speaker 4: Number One, you'll spend longer on your learners learning how

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Speaker 4: to drive unless you do approved practical course or you

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Speaker 4: do those supervised hours, which will be you know, will

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Speaker 4: be monitoring. And then the second thing is the restricted test.

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Speaker 4: We're making it include hazard perception as well, so it

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Speaker 4: is only done on your full test. It's not done

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Speaker 4: on your restricted so that will now be part of

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Speaker 4: the combination of longer on your learners, you know, making

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Speaker 4: sure that you can't.

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Speaker 6: Go for your fall.

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Speaker 4: If you've got any d merits, you've got to wait

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Speaker 4: twelve months of a clean driving record. We're also doing

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Speaker 4: a zero alcohol limit for everyone on their learners and

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Speaker 4: restricted by the way, so it's not the rules at

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Speaker 4: the moment. So zero alcohol limits for everyone on their

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Speaker 4: learners and restricted not just under twenty fives, but for everybody.

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Speaker 3: What about the NZTA having stronger powers over training providers.

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Speaker 3: Was there some inconsistency there? I just say that because

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Speaker 3: when I was going through the process, everybody in Nelson

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Speaker 3: knew you didn't want a particular feller to be running

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Speaker 3: that going to be tightened up? So you know, the

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Speaker 3: ones who you know you're going to fail with might

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you do hear all these anecdotal stories, a like

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Speaker 4: it because there'll be telling people know, but you know,

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Speaker 4: you know you want to do it on a particular day,

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Speaker 4: on a particular course because summer courses are harder than others,

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Speaker 3: The big one is that there's going to be no

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Speaker 3: Exactly those punishing they're.

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Speaker 2: Already ridiculous the way they run those tests. Yeah. So

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon?

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Speaker 3: It's a good move.

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Speaker 7: Umm, I'm an employment consultant, and one of the biggest

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Speaker 7: It can make things a little bit easier or currency

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Speaker 7: License, I would say maybe sixty forty. Yep, they're having

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Speaker 2: I mean you might ask yourself if your employee, why

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Speaker 2: well the indicator that you're you know, you're not good

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure. Actually, all the information we've got here

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Speaker 3: YEA, from our information, looks like it's just Class one drivers,

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Speaker 3: but we'll do a deeper dive. Why why would that

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Speaker 7: Especially with clients that they've had their full license for

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Speaker 7: Class one? You know, You're all you're doing is just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks so much for you call ted. So I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I must have missed that come through as well,

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Speaker 3: That is very hard.

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Speaker 3: The hell starts. That the one that I just didn't

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Speaker 2: See, this is what I said to my son. I said,

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Speaker 2: Hey, we'll find we'll find that audio from Chris Bishop

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Speaker 3: Does it make sense? And if you're going through the

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Speaker 2: This is I'm not sure if I'm allowed to say.

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Speaker 3: No, no, that it feels like you might be on

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Speaker 3: Twenty seven past one.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tyler Lucky, we've got listeners that actually listen

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Speaker 2: to the people we're interviewing. Yeah, I'm we're talking to

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Speaker 2: So we missed an important part.

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Speaker 3: We did.

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Speaker 4: You'll spend longer on your learners learning how to drive

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Speaker 2: All right, right, well I need all that, yep, So

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Speaker 2: an absolute more on Yeah, because you're not going to

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Speaker 2: be the absolute moron when you're being tested.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's very little you can do about

442
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Speaker 3: the dick factor after they've passed the test, because stuff's

443
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Speaker 3: just studied for that little bit. They do the punishing

444
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Speaker 3: hazard perception because they know they have to and then

445
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Speaker 3: they just go back to being a dick driver.

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Speaker 2: You don't eat all the mallow paths when mum's home

447
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Speaker 2: and can see you. You eat them when mum's out

448
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Speaker 2: and then say it was your sisters that eat them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's a great analogy. Right, we've got

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Speaker 3: the headlines coming up. Then we're going to have a

451
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Speaker 3: chat to Jenna. She doesn't think it's a good idea,

452
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Speaker 3: but of course we are taking your calls on oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. If you're going through the

454
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Speaker 3: process at the moment, how hard and challenging has it

455
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Speaker 3: been for you or your kids? And will this improve things?

456
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Speaker 3: And nine two ninety two is the text number beg

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Speaker 3: forvery shortly. It is being on hYP pass one.

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Speaker 2: Scrap it from next year.

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Speaker 14: It's part of a raft of license changes that will

464
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Speaker 14: also see drivers under twenty five spend longer on the

465
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Speaker 14: learner and restricted period. More material has fallen on State

466
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Speaker 14: the annual trek to White Toungy this week. The leaders

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Speaker 14: of every parliamentary party will be welcomed onto the treaty

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Speaker 14: grounds at a poor Ferry on Thursday, with many MPs

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Speaker 14: traveling to White Toungy early. Bill and Hillary Clinton have

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Speaker 14: reportedly agreed to testify in a congressional investigation into late

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Speaker 14: sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. To a Bill Clinton swimming in

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Ray Lean Driver overhaul is coming

482
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Speaker 3: in effect in jen next year. The biggest one is

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Speaker 3: no second practical test. Is that a good idea or

484
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Speaker 3: bad idea?

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon?

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Speaker 15: Janus, I'm I'm kind of on the fence, but leading toward.

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Speaker 16: It's not being a good idea. I just feel that

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Speaker 16: I just feel that bad habits tender Zeller like, these

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Speaker 16: are kids. They're still really checkerate the children. Their brains

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Speaker 16: habits fully developed, and you know that they don't know.

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Speaker 16: They take risks, they think they're invincible, and you get it,

492
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Speaker 16: get them behind the wheels, and they've developed bad habits.

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Speaker 16: And I just think having that little bit of extra

494
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Speaker 16: time and having you know, making sure that they've had

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Speaker 16: proper professional driving lessons, there's probably a better way to go.

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Speaker 2: You don't think that because they've extended the time on

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Speaker 2: the learner's license from six months to twelve.

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Speaker 16: Months, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I get that thing, that kid's brains aren't

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Speaker 2: fully formed yet. But does do you think the second

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Speaker 2: driver's test solves that problem? Because because it's my thought

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Speaker 2: that the people that are going to be idiots are

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Speaker 2: going to be idiots no matter what, and they can

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Speaker 2: scrub up enough to pass the test, and because you

505
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Speaker 2: can actually be technically a really good driver, but you

506
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Speaker 2: but you're actually a really fast, dangerous driver that just

507
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Speaker 2: happens to drive sensibly on the test.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 15: You can solve them pretty easily.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 15: When I was eleven years old, my dad we were

512
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Speaker 15: driving through the South Island and the straight roads on

513
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Speaker 15: Canterbury and he would just get me to take the wheel.

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Speaker 15: So I was sitting in the passenger seat. I've got

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Speaker 15: my hand on the wheel, his hands are right there.

516
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Speaker 15: And I got the feel of driving, you know. And

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Speaker 15: then after I got the feel of driving the car

518
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Speaker 15: and knowing how to turn the corners safely. Is he'd

519
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Speaker 15: got me doing the gears. So I was in the

520
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Speaker 15: manual and I'd changed all the gears. He'd do the clutch.

521
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Speaker 15: I'd changed the gears, and I'd tell him when to change.

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Speaker 15: And eleven when I started doing that. And then when

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Speaker 15: I actually sat my test, I was learning at a

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Speaker 15: Dat's in one eighty b and then by the time

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Speaker 15: I had to sit my test, we were in a

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Speaker 15: holding Kingswood station wagon, not bethful, and I nailed. I

527
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Speaker 15: nailed my parallel park, it was perfect. I nailed my

528
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Speaker 15: hell start. That was perfect. And the cop got out

529
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Speaker 15: of the car and he looked at my mother and goes,

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Speaker 15: she's been driving a while, hasn't she.

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Speaker 2: When you were when you were learning, your dad was

532
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Speaker 2: doing that, were you you were learning to change gears

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Speaker 2: with your right hand then, though, weren't you?

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Speaker 15: Yes, yes, I was.

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Speaker 2: That's an element that and so but that easily, you know,

536
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Speaker 2: swapped over to your left hand when you were buying

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Speaker 2: the age wheel.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it did because I had to feel for it

539
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Speaker 15: and I knew the confidence and the rep ratio of

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Speaker 15: when to put that clutch in and change and yeah,

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Speaker 15: I just I mean that then was the days went,

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Speaker 15: the seventies, the glory days.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they should just you know, they get some manual

544
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Speaker 3: cars that they just stationed at these testing operations, and

545
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Speaker 3: they make the new drivers learn to drive an a manual.

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Speaker 3: There was something about driving in a manual that makes

547
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Speaker 3: you zero in on what you're doing because there's so

548
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Speaker 3: many parts to it, Whereas the old auto always felt

549
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Speaker 3: a bit cheating.

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Speaker 15: I think learning in a manual is really good because

551
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Speaker 15: then if you go on and get a trade and

552
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Speaker 15: you are a plumber and a sparky, a builder, a

553
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Speaker 15: truck driver, a lot of these vehicles are manuals. There's

554
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Speaker 15: trucks they and I mean my husband he's had apprentices

555
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Speaker 15: under him and he's had to teach them to drive

556
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Speaker 15: a manual YEP.

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Speaker 3: I remember laboring for Dad and I got my license

558
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Speaker 3: and automatic I'm ashamed to admit, but he had a

559
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Speaker 3: column change van and when he asked me to get

560
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Speaker 3: some stuff and I said, Dad, I don't know how

561
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Speaker 3: to d and you said, well you better learn quickly.

562
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Speaker 3: I need that. Yeah, and you're the only one that

563
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Speaker 3: can get it. So I had to try and learn

564
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Speaker 3: on the spot.

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Speaker 2: What was parallel parking in the Holden Kingsman station wagon

566
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Speaker 2: like Jennis.

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Speaker 15: Well, my mum was a great teacher and I nailed

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Speaker 15: my very first one. She took me to tacapoona actually

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Speaker 15: Cheltenham Beach nic and it was a Saturday afternoon. We

570
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Speaker 15: were at the beach and she got me to practice

571
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Speaker 15: my very students park and I don't know, I just

572
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Speaker 15: seemed to really nail it. But I put it down

573
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Speaker 15: to the mum.

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Speaker 16: She knew exactly when to tell me how to line

575
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Speaker 16: the car up.

576
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Speaker 15: And what to look for and so yeah, I was

577
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Speaker 15: just able to do it at that age.

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Speaker 2: No power steering as well, I mentioned, No.

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Speaker 17: No, it was armstrong steering for the Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call, Jennie. That when

582
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Speaker 2: when you're in a manual and you're learning to drive

583
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Speaker 2: and you're coming to a corner, say a left turn,

584
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Speaker 2: there's so much more to do. Heck, you've got to

585
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Speaker 2: indicate break change, down the gears around all that, you know,

586
00:26:11,973 --> 00:26:13,693
Speaker 2: the class, all that kind of stuff changed the gifts.

587
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Speaker 2: There was so much to do. It same when I

588
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Speaker 2: was learning to drive in my dad's manual Commodore, it

589
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Speaker 2: just seemed like there was just a list of five

590
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Speaker 2: things yet to do before you turn the corner. Yeah,

591
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Speaker 2: and now they're just you're learning in a little go

592
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Speaker 2: kart car.

593
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Speaker 3: Does it itself.

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Speaker 2: It's just a little little pussy little zoom around us. Yeah,

595
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Speaker 2: bloody easy.

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Speaker 3: So what I reckon We get the manuals back out

597
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Speaker 3: station them at the testing stations and make the newcomers

598
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Speaker 3: just learn to drive in a manual.

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Speaker 2: The robots will be Won't the robots be in charge

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Speaker 2: of licensing all of us? Sheeples, says Warwick. I mean,

601
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Speaker 2: that's that's the thing. That's one thing having driverless cars,

602
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Speaker 2: it's another thing having robotic drive against driving tests.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 3: to call? Is this a great idea? Getting rid of that?

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Speaker 3: Can practical practical test and some of those other changes.

606
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Speaker 3: And if you're going through the licensing system at the moment,

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Speaker 3: I'd love to hear from you how challenging it has

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Speaker 3: it been? Nine to nine two? Is that text beg

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Speaker 3: forvery shortly? It is twenty to two.

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Speaker 9: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

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Speaker 9: along the way.

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Speaker 3: Be eighteen to two. So there's a big overhaul coming

615
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Speaker 3: to the driver license system. The biggest change is removing

616
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Speaker 3: the second practical test. What do you say? Oh at

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten.

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Speaker 2: Eighty, This text says that's in one ady b What

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Speaker 2: a car? I thought the most pristine, beautiful cars on

620
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Speaker 2: the motorway, so I was, and it was it was

621
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Speaker 2: terrible traffic, so I was beside it for a long time,

622
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Speaker 2: so was having a good look. It was getting quite

623
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Speaker 2: of creepy with this guy and his girlfriend in the car.

624
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Speaker 2: It was the most beautiful that's in sixteen hundred lovely,

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Speaker 2: just a immaculately reconditioned It was just absolutely of beauty.

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Speaker 3: Jude, how are you.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm holding it together it's good.

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Speaker 3: That's all we can hope for. What do you reckon

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Speaker 3: about this overhaul to the driver's license system.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I'm not for it. I just wanted to say that, Matt,

631
00:28:15,053 --> 00:28:19,013
Speaker 18: you've got obviously terrible or maybe you're proud of your

632
00:28:19,053 --> 00:28:22,253
Speaker 18: son's you know, I can tell that, and you don't

633
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Speaker 18: that I've gone it all together as so as they're driving.

634
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Speaker 18: But two years ago I stood in a funeral home

635
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Speaker 18: and stared down at the dead body of my twenty

636
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Speaker 18: year old son after he had drift across the road

637
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Speaker 18: over the since line into an oncoming car, trying to

638
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Speaker 18: avoid a car that had pulled out from his left.

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Speaker 18: And you know, like we're not preparing our young drivers

640
00:28:53,933 --> 00:28:58,133
Speaker 18: or the stupid things that an old fellow who's been

641
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Speaker 18: at the at the workingmen's club and had a few

642
00:29:01,613 --> 00:29:05,133
Speaker 18: too many, or you know, the driver who thinks that

643
00:29:05,293 --> 00:29:08,173
Speaker 18: he's all that and he can you know, the older

644
00:29:08,173 --> 00:29:10,013
Speaker 18: guy that thinks he's all that and he can drive

645
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Speaker 18: his car faster than he should be. And you know,

646
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Speaker 18: our young ones need to be more defensive. Driving that

647
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Speaker 18: needs to be harder. It's like a night out with

648
00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:25,733
Speaker 18: the ambulances and you know, scraping these dead pins off

649
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Speaker 18: the road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard to save it. So sorry

651
00:29:32,293 --> 00:29:35,453
Speaker 2: to hear about this, son, Dude, that's I can only

652
00:29:35,453 --> 00:29:40,733
Speaker 2: imagine that's that's absolutely horrible. Do you but but the

653
00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:44,613
Speaker 2: do you think that the second driver's license test is

654
00:29:44,893 --> 00:29:47,773
Speaker 2: is the issue there? It sounds like sounds like people

655
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Speaker 2: that probably do have their second driver's license have I mean,

656
00:29:51,173 --> 00:29:53,253
Speaker 2: they've had to sit their second driver's license test, but

657
00:29:53,293 --> 00:29:56,173
Speaker 2: it's still just doing terrible things on the road and

658
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Speaker 2: taking lives.

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Speaker 18: Okay, I think we need more practical driving, you know,

660
00:30:01,293 --> 00:30:04,493
Speaker 18: we need we need they need more experience on how

661
00:30:04,533 --> 00:30:07,533
Speaker 18: to handle you know, if you've start sliding and gravel

662
00:30:07,733 --> 00:30:11,173
Speaker 18: or I for you know, like most of them used

663
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Speaker 18: to drive through on the road. For you know, we're

664
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Speaker 18: in the middle of winter. It would be black ice

665
00:30:18,373 --> 00:30:20,893
Speaker 18: on the road. And I used to worry every morning

666
00:30:20,933 --> 00:30:23,533
Speaker 18: about him driving, you know. And it's just all of

667
00:30:23,573 --> 00:30:26,213
Speaker 18: those sorts of skills that we're not teaching them. It's

668
00:30:26,253 --> 00:30:29,973
Speaker 18: defensive driving skills. I just wish, you know, like every

669
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Speaker 18: day I live with the regret because I thought about

670
00:30:32,693 --> 00:30:34,973
Speaker 18: it all the time, you know, defensive driving. And I

671
00:30:35,053 --> 00:30:37,933
Speaker 18: just said, we can sit the practical stuff but they

672
00:30:37,973 --> 00:30:41,613
Speaker 18: need to be taught the you know, the practical hard

673
00:30:41,653 --> 00:30:47,893
Speaker 18: reality stuff that is. Yeah, and until you there your

674
00:30:47,973 --> 00:30:48,613
Speaker 18: son dead.

675
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Speaker 2: Well, Jude, thank you so much for your call. Really

676
00:30:54,533 --> 00:30:58,373
Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Boy. Yeah, I mean that's the biggest fear,

677
00:30:58,413 --> 00:31:02,253
Speaker 2: isn't it. That That's that's the that's the real end

678
00:31:02,293 --> 00:31:04,653
Speaker 2: of it. And and you know, driving, as we were

679
00:31:04,653 --> 00:31:07,293
Speaker 2: talking about this not so long ago, is the most

680
00:31:07,373 --> 00:31:12,013
Speaker 2: dangerous thing we do in our lives in modern New Zealand. Yeah,

681
00:31:12,053 --> 00:31:15,133
Speaker 2: the most dangerous thing you do is go in driving

682
00:31:15,173 --> 00:31:17,213
Speaker 2: and it has to be treated very seriously.

683
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Speaker 3: It does. Yeah, Jude, thank you very much for giving

684
00:31:19,293 --> 00:31:21,853
Speaker 3: us a call and so so sorry about your son.

685
00:31:21,893 --> 00:31:23,973
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty teen eighty is the number to call.

686
00:31:24,093 --> 00:31:27,853
Speaker 3: Nine two nine to two is the text number. Is well,

687
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:32,733
Speaker 3: we will be back very soon. It is fourteen to two.

688
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Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh eight

689
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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor

690
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Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons.

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB, News TALKSB. It is eleven to two.

692
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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, I don't see how any of these new

693
00:31:47,693 --> 00:31:51,373
Speaker 2: regulations regulations will keep people safe on the roads, says

694
00:31:51,413 --> 00:31:53,453
Speaker 2: this text, if they are on us. The biggest risk

695
00:31:53,533 --> 00:31:55,573
Speaker 2: we have on our roads at the moment are people

696
00:31:55,613 --> 00:31:58,893
Speaker 2: doing social media and watching social networks when they are driving.

697
00:31:59,453 --> 00:32:01,933
Speaker 2: I drive one hundred and fortykilimeters per day, and it's

698
00:32:01,973 --> 00:32:04,493
Speaker 2: amazing how many people have their plane phone on the

699
00:32:04,573 --> 00:32:07,333
Speaker 2: dashboard looking at it and talking to it. And maybe

700
00:32:07,333 --> 00:32:09,533
Speaker 2: the police should look at social media posts of people

701
00:32:09,573 --> 00:32:12,653
Speaker 2: while driving and put them before the courts. But that's

702
00:32:12,733 --> 00:32:15,293
Speaker 2: kind of my point. You know you're not gonna look

703
00:32:15,293 --> 00:32:20,973
Speaker 2: at check your social media on your driving tests. Yeah,

704
00:32:21,013 --> 00:32:23,533
Speaker 2: so you know you're gonna be on your best behavior

705
00:32:23,533 --> 00:32:27,093
Speaker 2: on your driving test, and you can you can, you know,

706
00:32:27,173 --> 00:32:29,693
Speaker 2: look up online and take lessons such that you know

707
00:32:29,773 --> 00:32:31,613
Speaker 2: exactly what you need to do to pass the driving test.

708
00:32:31,653 --> 00:32:32,893
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you're going to be a good driver

709
00:32:32,973 --> 00:32:35,253
Speaker 2: on the road, no at all. I mean you're still

710
00:32:35,373 --> 00:32:38,853
Speaker 2: quite capable of passing the driving test and then as

711
00:32:38,853 --> 00:32:43,053
Speaker 2: you're driving home posting on Insta as you drive, and.

712
00:32:42,973 --> 00:32:45,573
Speaker 3: I'm sure that happens a lot. That's exactly it. You

713
00:32:45,573 --> 00:32:48,893
Speaker 3: could have fifteen tests and they'll still lock in for

714
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:51,293
Speaker 3: that half an hour and do the hazard perception and

715
00:32:51,333 --> 00:32:53,893
Speaker 3: everything else. But then when they jump in their own car.

716
00:32:53,933 --> 00:32:55,973
Speaker 3: And as you said, when no one's looking, what's going

717
00:32:56,013 --> 00:32:57,533
Speaker 3: to happen? Speak to looking at the phone.

718
00:32:57,933 --> 00:33:00,133
Speaker 2: There was there was a woman in front of me

719
00:33:00,173 --> 00:33:03,333
Speaker 2: and a car at an intersection in Kingsland recently, and

720
00:33:03,373 --> 00:33:05,813
Speaker 2: she was I could see she was on I don't

721
00:33:05,813 --> 00:33:07,733
Speaker 2: know why I could see she was on her phone.

722
00:33:07,813 --> 00:33:10,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, was holding it up and not even subtle about it.

723
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Speaker 19: Yeah.

724
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Speaker 2: And then the light changed and she didn't move because

725
00:33:14,693 --> 00:33:16,493
Speaker 2: she was just looking at the phone. And it's a

726
00:33:16,533 --> 00:33:21,093
Speaker 2: really really quick uh you know, you know segment what

727
00:33:21,093 --> 00:33:25,573
Speaker 2: do you call it duration on that light? Yes, And

728
00:33:25,573 --> 00:33:27,693
Speaker 2: and so we missed the turn and so and I

729
00:33:27,733 --> 00:33:29,413
Speaker 2: gave her a little honk and she gave me the bed.

730
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Speaker 20: Ah.

731
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Speaker 2: So you're on Instagram, You're out of the light. You

732
00:33:33,293 --> 00:33:35,973
Speaker 2: don't go when the green comes. You've held everyone up.

733
00:33:36,373 --> 00:33:39,053
Speaker 2: The friendliest, the friendliest honk. It was like, come on,

734
00:33:39,213 --> 00:33:41,573
Speaker 2: you're on the road. It wasn't an angry it was

735
00:33:41,573 --> 00:33:44,213
Speaker 2: like a yep, you know that, which.

736
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Speaker 3: Is just a Halloey's hello, Hallee's green.

737
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Speaker 2: You're a complete moron. You're on Instagram. You're a horrible

738
00:33:48,933 --> 00:33:52,253
Speaker 2: addicts of social media. Just you might want to put

739
00:33:52,253 --> 00:33:53,333
Speaker 2: your phone down and drive.

740
00:33:53,333 --> 00:33:54,413
Speaker 3: Take your license away.

741
00:33:54,493 --> 00:33:55,133
Speaker 2: I got the birds.

742
00:33:55,373 --> 00:33:59,173
Speaker 3: Geez, Jeremy, how are you mate?

743
00:34:00,053 --> 00:34:00,613
Speaker 10: I'm very good?

744
00:34:00,613 --> 00:34:00,853
Speaker 11: Boys?

745
00:34:00,853 --> 00:34:02,853
Speaker 3: How are you very good? So you want to have

746
00:34:02,853 --> 00:34:05,133
Speaker 3: a chat about a driving program? Your daughter did?

747
00:34:06,093 --> 00:34:06,293
Speaker 9: Yees.

748
00:34:06,373 --> 00:34:09,413
Speaker 10: So she's just recently got her restricted and I put

749
00:34:09,413 --> 00:34:12,933
Speaker 10: her on a program called street Smart. So Greg Murphy

750
00:34:12,973 --> 00:34:16,692
Speaker 10: is sort of the spokesperson for that and funded by

751
00:34:16,773 --> 00:34:21,613
Speaker 10: the Tony Quinn Foundation, And look, I just think every

752
00:34:21,653 --> 00:34:23,533
Speaker 10: kid should have to do that. The amount that she

753
00:34:23,733 --> 00:34:26,213
Speaker 10: learned on that day, and what it is is you

754
00:34:26,293 --> 00:34:29,773
Speaker 10: go we did at Talboy Motorsport Park. Are the sort

755
00:34:29,813 --> 00:34:34,173
Speaker 10: of activities all through the day, emergency braking, emergency lane changes,

756
00:34:34,613 --> 00:34:36,732
Speaker 10: things like that, so learning how to handle a car

757
00:34:37,013 --> 00:34:40,813
Speaker 10: in that emergency situation. They did a big session on

758
00:34:40,933 --> 00:34:43,053
Speaker 10: driving well distracted as well, so they covered that. They

759
00:34:43,133 --> 00:34:45,853
Speaker 10: got the kids to drive while reading text messages and

760
00:34:45,893 --> 00:34:48,773
Speaker 10: stuff and simulated the impact of the things I've missed.

761
00:34:48,813 --> 00:34:51,533
Speaker 10: So just a really great program. So I guess I

762
00:34:51,613 --> 00:34:53,652
Speaker 10: kind of walked away from that thinking we need to

763
00:34:53,693 --> 00:34:56,973
Speaker 10: do more to prepare these children for the road. And yes,

764
00:34:56,973 --> 00:34:59,813
Speaker 10: it is a concern that's less testing than actually doing less.

765
00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:02,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but do you think it's the test that

766
00:35:03,013 --> 00:35:05,093
Speaker 2: makes the difference, because in this one, you know, the

767
00:35:05,173 --> 00:35:08,813
Speaker 2: learning period is longer. So I would hope that, And

768
00:35:08,893 --> 00:35:10,453
Speaker 2: of course this isn't the case for everyone, but there's

769
00:35:10,453 --> 00:35:13,413
Speaker 2: great parents like you, But you would hope that as

770
00:35:13,493 --> 00:35:18,053
Speaker 2: a parent, you really put the emphasis on the learning

771
00:35:18,333 --> 00:35:22,173
Speaker 2: period of this, of the driving as opposed to the

772
00:35:22,173 --> 00:35:22,973
Speaker 2: testing part of it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I guess that depends on who's teaching

774
00:35:26,373 --> 00:35:27,973
Speaker 10: them to drive. I'd like to think I did a

775
00:35:28,013 --> 00:35:30,053
Speaker 10: fairly good job I taught her to drive, but I

776
00:35:30,093 --> 00:35:32,613
Speaker 10: don't know if I really did, which is why we

777
00:35:32,653 --> 00:35:34,933
Speaker 10: did that course. I mean, I think the big thing

778
00:35:34,973 --> 00:35:38,173
Speaker 10: for me, you know, like the one of the activities,

779
00:35:38,173 --> 00:35:40,692
Speaker 10: for example, was an emergency stop, so trying to get

780
00:35:40,693 --> 00:35:43,733
Speaker 10: the car to abs and then trying to snare the

781
00:35:43,733 --> 00:35:46,893
Speaker 10: car into safety, so really simulating you know what that

782
00:35:47,093 --> 00:35:49,173
Speaker 10: lady spoke about it before, with someone pulling out in

783
00:35:49,213 --> 00:35:51,973
Speaker 10: front of you and having to avoid an accident. Not

784
00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:54,293
Speaker 10: one of the kids in our group got that right

785
00:35:54,373 --> 00:35:56,693
Speaker 10: the first time, and very few of them got to

786
00:35:56,773 --> 00:36:00,172
Speaker 10: right the second time. Yeah, people just don't know how

787
00:36:00,293 --> 00:36:03,453
Speaker 10: the vehicle's going to react in these situations. And yeah,

788
00:36:03,453 --> 00:36:06,133
Speaker 10: I'm going to learn that just driving over and over again,

789
00:36:06,293 --> 00:36:08,212
Speaker 10: and you probably don't learn that by doing the test either.

790
00:36:08,573 --> 00:36:10,373
Speaker 2: And the great thing about the street, the great thing

791
00:36:10,373 --> 00:36:12,333
Speaker 2: about street Smart is you're you know, they've got it

792
00:36:12,373 --> 00:36:14,652
Speaker 2: set up on the tracks and it's off the road,

793
00:36:14,693 --> 00:36:16,813
Speaker 2: so they can set up these circumstances that you would

794
00:36:17,053 --> 00:36:20,773
Speaker 2: never experience until it was, you know, the first time,

795
00:36:20,813 --> 00:36:22,973
Speaker 2: and the consequences were real. So that's that's what's so

796
00:36:23,013 --> 00:36:23,893
Speaker 2: great about them, isn't it.

797
00:36:25,013 --> 00:36:26,853
Speaker 10: Yeah, and they had a vehicle there that had been

798
00:36:26,853 --> 00:36:29,693
Speaker 10: involved in an accident lily quite recently, so the police

799
00:36:29,733 --> 00:36:31,453
Speaker 10: are on hand to tell the story about what happened

800
00:36:31,453 --> 00:36:34,453
Speaker 10: to those occupants. And yeah, just the whole thing I think,

801
00:36:34,893 --> 00:36:36,652
Speaker 10: you know, I know with my daughter, she's done some

802
00:36:36,773 --> 00:36:38,652
Speaker 10: gokar racing growing up, and we're a bit of a

803
00:36:38,653 --> 00:36:42,373
Speaker 10: motorsport family, so she was probably a little cavilier about

804
00:36:42,373 --> 00:36:44,453
Speaker 10: some of it in my mind, and I think that

805
00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:46,893
Speaker 10: that course really brought home for her the reality of

806
00:36:46,893 --> 00:36:47,973
Speaker 10: what happens on the street.

807
00:36:48,413 --> 00:36:50,853
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well think if you call Jeremy So that's street

808
00:36:50,893 --> 00:36:53,813
Speaker 2: smart dot org dot NZ if if you want to

809
00:36:53,893 --> 00:36:55,933
Speaker 2: check that out. Just been watching a bunch of videos

810
00:36:55,973 --> 00:36:58,292
Speaker 2: on it. Looks like a I mean, if it looks

811
00:36:58,293 --> 00:36:59,413
Speaker 2: like a fantastic thing to do.

812
00:36:59,373 --> 00:37:02,973
Speaker 3: For your kid, certainly does. Yeah, a couple of texts

813
00:37:03,053 --> 00:37:03,933
Speaker 3: before we've got the news.

814
00:37:03,933 --> 00:37:06,573
Speaker 2: Coming license makes no difference than I us see. I

815
00:37:06,653 --> 00:37:08,853
Speaker 2: see on the road every day they've all got their

816
00:37:09,093 --> 00:37:13,853
Speaker 2: license and they're all behaving incredibly badly. It's not the license,

817
00:37:13,893 --> 00:37:15,213
Speaker 2: it's the idiot, says this text.

818
00:37:15,453 --> 00:37:17,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this one again. I guys taught our daughter

819
00:37:17,853 --> 00:37:20,973
Speaker 3: had a parallel park the utes between our two wheelibins.

820
00:37:20,973 --> 00:37:23,333
Speaker 3: Don't let them loose between cars. She can nail any

821
00:37:23,413 --> 00:37:26,053
Speaker 3: park now in a vehicle. That's a great idea between

822
00:37:26,053 --> 00:37:28,693
Speaker 3: the two wheelibins. I want to learn that way. To

823
00:37:28,733 --> 00:37:30,533
Speaker 3: be honest here, I'm going to be upfront that when

824
00:37:30,573 --> 00:37:32,933
Speaker 3: I was learning to parallel park in a car park

825
00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:36,453
Speaker 3: with Dad's partner at the time, I had a car.

826
00:37:36,933 --> 00:37:38,253
Speaker 2: You had a car when you were practice.

827
00:37:38,253 --> 00:37:39,773
Speaker 3: I had a car. It was a bad day, so

828
00:37:39,773 --> 00:37:40,333
Speaker 3: I don't run a.

829
00:37:40,333 --> 00:37:42,533
Speaker 2: Power the one going in or the one at that back.

830
00:37:42,853 --> 00:37:44,693
Speaker 3: No, the one going in, so it was in between.

831
00:37:44,733 --> 00:37:46,973
Speaker 3: And she said, this is perfect. There's plenty of room there,

832
00:37:47,053 --> 00:37:49,613
Speaker 3: so you can't. You can't stuff this up. And I

833
00:37:49,653 --> 00:37:51,733
Speaker 3: went too hard on the wheel and then heard the

834
00:37:51,773 --> 00:37:54,253
Speaker 3: bar but oh no, and there was a big scratch

835
00:37:54,253 --> 00:37:55,973
Speaker 3: on the car. But of course we stayed there and

836
00:37:56,013 --> 00:37:57,493
Speaker 3: she waited for them to come back, and we did

837
00:37:57,493 --> 00:37:59,613
Speaker 3: the insurance. But I'll tell you what after that, I

838
00:37:59,613 --> 00:38:00,893
Speaker 3: was just I don't want to drive anymore.

839
00:38:00,973 --> 00:38:03,773
Speaker 2: It's been a long time since my dad taught me

840
00:38:03,853 --> 00:38:08,732
Speaker 2: to drive, but I still remember him yelling right back

841
00:38:08,853 --> 00:38:12,693
Speaker 2: left corner, your back, left corner. What's your right left corner?

842
00:38:13,293 --> 00:38:13,853
Speaker 3: Did that help?

843
00:38:14,053 --> 00:38:16,853
Speaker 2: Well, it's just like he's divine the current quarters and

844
00:38:16,973 --> 00:38:19,172
Speaker 2: yelling at me. I'm like the left, right back left quarter.

845
00:38:19,253 --> 00:38:23,613
Speaker 3: What just calculating that debt? All right, great discussion. Thank

846
00:38:23,653 --> 00:38:26,213
Speaker 3: you very much to everyone who called and text on that.

847
00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:29,053
Speaker 3: We're going to change things up after two o'clock. Want

848
00:38:29,053 --> 00:38:32,013
Speaker 3: to talk about burnoffs. This is after Paul Henwy Henry,

849
00:38:32,053 --> 00:38:35,613
Speaker 3: well known broadcast. Paul hen We brought a well known broadcaster.

850
00:38:35,893 --> 00:38:37,773
Speaker 3: He got himself into a bit of strife when he

851
00:38:37,813 --> 00:38:39,573
Speaker 3: had a bit of a burn off. It got out

852
00:38:39,573 --> 00:38:41,733
Speaker 3: of control. We had to call the fire brigade. So

853
00:38:41,773 --> 00:38:43,973
Speaker 3: we want to hear from you those moments where you

854
00:38:44,093 --> 00:38:46,093
Speaker 3: burn off or a bit of a fire at the property.

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Speaker 3: Got about out of control. O one hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call nine two ninety two

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Speaker 3: is the text. We will be back very shortly. Great

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Speaker 3: Tvy company is always you're listening to Matt and Tyler.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda News Talk SEPs.

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Speaker 3: up in the next hour or so. We will bring

873
00:39:40,053 --> 00:39:43,293
Speaker 3: you that clue, so stay tuned for that all thanks

874
00:39:43,333 --> 00:39:45,453
Speaker 3: to Scoder. Great to have them on boards.

875
00:39:45,613 --> 00:39:47,093
Speaker 2: My cousin just put a Scotera loves it.

876
00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:51,013
Speaker 3: Great cars now, purtiful, fantastic. Absolutely he loves it. Yeah,

877
00:39:51,053 --> 00:39:52,773
Speaker 3: I bet he does. Right, Let's get into this one

878
00:39:52,813 --> 00:39:56,053
Speaker 3: fascinating story broadcast to Paul Henry. He's labeled himself a

879
00:39:56,133 --> 00:39:59,653
Speaker 3: full after losing control of a bonfire on his rural

880
00:39:59,733 --> 00:40:03,773
Speaker 3: Northland property. He's developing it into luxury accommodation. Must be nice.

881
00:40:03,893 --> 00:40:06,013
Speaker 3: But he shared on social media that the local fire

882
00:40:06,053 --> 00:40:09,453
Speaker 3: brigade showed up to his property in p after he

883
00:40:09,533 --> 00:40:12,292
Speaker 3: lit and lost control of a fire. He said, after

884
00:40:12,333 --> 00:40:16,893
Speaker 3: decades of building and lighting bonfires with dubious safety considerations,

885
00:40:16,933 --> 00:40:21,213
Speaker 3: I finally became unstuck. It escalated quickly. Then he shared

886
00:40:21,213 --> 00:40:23,653
Speaker 3: footage showing two trucks working to control a fire and

887
00:40:23,733 --> 00:40:26,973
Speaker 3: a paddock. He also thanked the local fire brigade that

888
00:40:27,053 --> 00:40:29,413
Speaker 3: came to his rescue, praising the way they dealt with

889
00:40:29,413 --> 00:40:31,293
Speaker 3: the blaze without judgment.

890
00:40:31,973 --> 00:40:33,293
Speaker 2: So was he joying to do it himself?

891
00:40:33,773 --> 00:40:36,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, seemed like the old key. We burn off just

892
00:40:36,413 --> 00:40:38,893
Speaker 3: a week corner of his paddock. I don't know what

893
00:40:38,973 --> 00:40:40,692
Speaker 3: kind of day it was or what the weather was,

894
00:40:40,773 --> 00:40:43,613
Speaker 3: but as he said, he's done many of them before,

895
00:40:44,013 --> 00:40:45,933
Speaker 3: never really thought about the safety aspect, and this one

896
00:40:45,973 --> 00:40:46,812
Speaker 3: just got away from it.

897
00:40:48,053 --> 00:40:49,653
Speaker 2: We used to do lots of burnofs when I was

898
00:40:49,653 --> 00:40:52,933
Speaker 2: a kid, with all the gorse and broom. That's what

899
00:40:53,013 --> 00:40:56,493
Speaker 2: basically my holidays when I was growing up, just dragging

900
00:40:56,573 --> 00:40:59,093
Speaker 2: gorse and broom around, cutting with the scrub cartter, then

901
00:40:59,133 --> 00:41:01,653
Speaker 2: dragging it, putting in big piles, and when the piles

902
00:41:01,653 --> 00:41:04,013
Speaker 2: got big enough, just massive bonfires.

903
00:41:04,053 --> 00:41:04,853
Speaker 3: You got worked hard.

904
00:41:05,173 --> 00:41:07,973
Speaker 2: Oh, worked like a dog. Absolutely worked by a dog.

905
00:41:08,013 --> 00:41:10,013
Speaker 2: My dad, if he's listening, he'll go, you were a

906
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:13,733
Speaker 2: lazy had got more out of you. I had to

907
00:41:13,773 --> 00:41:17,613
Speaker 2: chase you away from the you know whatever punishing video

908
00:41:17,653 --> 00:41:21,973
Speaker 2: you're watching for the thousandth time. Anyway, weird. Often we'd

909
00:41:21,973 --> 00:41:27,333
Speaker 2: get fire permits and but people so far away words

910
00:41:27,573 --> 00:41:29,772
Speaker 2: call the fire department on you, And then the fire

911
00:41:29,773 --> 00:41:32,893
Speaker 2: department would come rushing up the road to her farm

912
00:41:33,013 --> 00:41:36,693
Speaker 2: and my dad would see me running down from the

913
00:41:36,733 --> 00:41:39,413
Speaker 2: top pad act. We had a massive fire, and I

914
00:41:39,453 --> 00:41:42,732
Speaker 2: remember being really little and climbing up onto the fire

915
00:41:42,773 --> 00:41:45,613
Speaker 2: truck and trying to wave the permit.

916
00:41:45,813 --> 00:41:48,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all right, I've got a permit. Yeah we

917
00:41:48,413 --> 00:41:48,853
Speaker 3: could do this.

918
00:41:48,933 --> 00:41:50,693
Speaker 2: But then they still have to come up and have

919
00:41:50,773 --> 00:41:53,373
Speaker 2: a lock double pretty hard. Actually, essentially get all the

920
00:41:53,413 --> 00:41:56,933
Speaker 2: way over to where we were burning fires. You know,

921
00:41:57,093 --> 00:41:58,573
Speaker 2: these massive scrub burnofs.

922
00:41:58,653 --> 00:42:01,133
Speaker 3: It's such a big thing in the royal community, isn't it.

923
00:42:01,173 --> 00:42:04,213
Speaker 3: I mean I've driven past many handmade signs and you

924
00:42:04,253 --> 00:42:06,693
Speaker 3: can see the burnoff is happening. But the farmers obviously

925
00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:08,652
Speaker 3: put this big sign right on the highway to say

926
00:42:09,093 --> 00:42:11,493
Speaker 3: permit burn off, please do not call the fire brigade.

927
00:42:11,533 --> 00:42:13,813
Speaker 3: It's all under control, because imagine they get that a lot.

928
00:42:13,813 --> 00:42:16,613
Speaker 3: If you see that smoke bubbling, you know, drifting up

929
00:42:17,013 --> 00:42:19,212
Speaker 3: from your property, there'd be a lot of neighbors thinking,

930
00:42:19,253 --> 00:42:20,933
Speaker 3: all right, the he's burning down the place again.

931
00:42:21,013 --> 00:42:22,653
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that'd be all. But they were calling the

932
00:42:22,693 --> 00:42:24,732
Speaker 2: fire department all the way over on the Peninsula, which

933
00:42:25,533 --> 00:42:29,053
Speaker 2: won't mean much for people that aren't from Dunedin, but

934
00:42:29,173 --> 00:42:32,413
Speaker 2: the Peninsula was. I mean you might be talking people

935
00:42:32,453 --> 00:42:36,533
Speaker 2: calling because I think around there there's a lot of

936
00:42:36,613 --> 00:42:39,773
Speaker 2: rural land that looks over a city, so people on

937
00:42:40,373 --> 00:42:43,253
Speaker 2: so city slickers see it and go there so fire.

938
00:42:43,293 --> 00:42:45,053
Speaker 2: But then again, you know if a fire really blow

939
00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:47,733
Speaker 2: up and you didn't call the fire department, then you

940
00:42:47,733 --> 00:42:50,213
Speaker 2: know you can lose thousands of fectives I suppose.

941
00:42:50,253 --> 00:42:51,533
Speaker 3: But yeah, like.

942
00:42:51,493 --> 00:42:53,333
Speaker 2: Muppets to me, the people calling the fight department.

943
00:42:53,373 --> 00:42:55,053
Speaker 3: Oh, e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

944
00:42:55,093 --> 00:42:57,373
Speaker 3: number to call. Love to hear from you. If you've

945
00:42:57,373 --> 00:43:00,253
Speaker 3: ever had a burnoff that had the potential being a

946
00:43:00,253 --> 00:43:03,853
Speaker 3: bit sketchy, and volunteer firefighters as well, really keen to

947
00:43:03,853 --> 00:43:05,813
Speaker 3: hear from you. How often do you get the call

948
00:43:05,853 --> 00:43:07,853
Speaker 3: out and how many calls do you get when someone's

949
00:43:07,893 --> 00:43:11,413
Speaker 3: doing a permitted burnoff? I imagine the phones just light

950
00:43:11,493 --> 00:43:13,213
Speaker 3: up because people see smoke and think they've been a

951
00:43:13,253 --> 00:43:13,813
Speaker 3: good citizen.

952
00:43:14,453 --> 00:43:16,413
Speaker 2: Yeah, but also you know you can do a plan

953
00:43:16,493 --> 00:43:18,373
Speaker 2: burnoff and it can get out of control.

954
00:43:18,493 --> 00:43:20,732
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

955
00:43:20,773 --> 00:43:21,692
Speaker 2: We used to do some big ones.

956
00:43:21,733 --> 00:43:22,333
Speaker 9: It was awesome.

957
00:43:23,133 --> 00:43:26,013
Speaker 2: We used to have some bag fires are great.

958
00:43:26,133 --> 00:43:28,013
Speaker 3: Well, you talked about you know, the hard yacker of

959
00:43:28,093 --> 00:43:30,613
Speaker 3: dragging all the gorse and everything else there. But surely

960
00:43:30,893 --> 00:43:33,053
Speaker 3: the good moment, all the hard work paid off when

961
00:43:33,093 --> 00:43:34,293
Speaker 3: you could light that bear boy up.

962
00:43:34,493 --> 00:43:36,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean absolutely, I mean that was that was

963
00:43:36,573 --> 00:43:39,333
Speaker 2: a really fun part. But also you know, every now

964
00:43:39,373 --> 00:43:42,693
Speaker 2: and then you're like, you know, the old rabbit screaming

965
00:43:42,733 --> 00:43:44,493
Speaker 2: out of there on fire.

966
00:43:44,653 --> 00:43:46,652
Speaker 3: That'll want you, that'll want you. Oh a one hundred

967
00:43:46,693 --> 00:43:48,333
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighties and number to cool nine two

968
00:43:48,413 --> 00:43:52,733
Speaker 3: nine two. It is eleven pas two.

969
00:43:51,933 --> 00:43:56,853
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons.

970
00:43:56,333 --> 00:43:59,413
Speaker 9: Call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said be.

971
00:44:01,453 --> 00:44:05,453
Speaker 3: Afternoon fourteen past two. Win has a burnoff got out

972
00:44:05,453 --> 00:44:08,053
Speaker 3: of control? As it did for Paul Henry recently he

973
00:44:08,613 --> 00:44:11,053
Speaker 3: himself a full after having a bit of a bonfire

974
00:44:11,093 --> 00:44:12,133
Speaker 3: and things got a bit scary.

975
00:44:12,373 --> 00:44:14,413
Speaker 2: If your farmer, do you get the permits? And do

976
00:44:14,493 --> 00:44:17,333
Speaker 2: the permits stop the fire department from coming.

977
00:44:17,453 --> 00:44:19,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number to

978
00:44:19,693 --> 00:44:20,773
Speaker 3: call Richard.

979
00:44:20,773 --> 00:44:21,493
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

980
00:44:22,413 --> 00:44:23,333
Speaker 6: Good right, how are you going?

981
00:44:23,373 --> 00:44:25,453
Speaker 3: Go very well? Can to hear your story.

982
00:44:25,573 --> 00:44:28,773
Speaker 21: So we had we used to be out on the

983
00:44:28,893 --> 00:44:32,653
Speaker 21: target Pinentula underneath the soldiers from oil looking into the harbor.

984
00:44:32,853 --> 00:44:34,573
Speaker 10: Lovely we had a farm there.

985
00:44:35,333 --> 00:44:38,853
Speaker 21: Yes, we used to get permits all the time. I

986
00:44:38,973 --> 00:44:42,093
Speaker 21: had set up a fire. I've had a root rate

987
00:44:42,173 --> 00:44:44,293
Speaker 21: come in, so I had gorse all root raked up.

988
00:44:44,893 --> 00:44:47,453
Speaker 21: Where easy to go? And I thought, right, get up

989
00:44:47,493 --> 00:44:50,813
Speaker 21: early in the morning, have ius four text the local

990
00:44:50,973 --> 00:44:53,413
Speaker 21: fire station at south Tonans said don't worry this.

991
00:44:53,533 --> 00:44:54,013
Speaker 11: Who I am?

992
00:44:54,133 --> 00:44:56,093
Speaker 21: This is what we're doing, because I had so many

993
00:44:56,093 --> 00:45:01,613
Speaker 21: call outs. Within an hour they had fifty six calls,

994
00:45:02,053 --> 00:45:03,172
Speaker 21: so they decided they.

995
00:45:03,053 --> 00:45:06,453
Speaker 10: Had to send a mention. I mean, it was just nuts.

996
00:45:06,493 --> 00:45:08,333
Speaker 21: How many people get up at early in the morning.

997
00:45:09,693 --> 00:45:12,333
Speaker 21: When they got there, they went down to the house

998
00:45:12,373 --> 00:45:14,893
Speaker 21: and they being on the door. Wife goes the door

999
00:45:14,933 --> 00:45:18,613
Speaker 21: and goes, O, god, what's he done now? So then

1000
00:45:18,653 --> 00:45:22,053
Speaker 21: they checked no, I'm all good, fire's going well. But

1001
00:45:22,133 --> 00:45:24,733
Speaker 21: they had to set the engine up the top of

1002
00:45:24,773 --> 00:45:28,133
Speaker 21: the road by the soldiers and oil with the lights

1003
00:45:28,173 --> 00:45:29,853
Speaker 21: on to stop the calls coming through.

1004
00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:33,573
Speaker 9: To the one one one right, So.

1005
00:45:33,413 --> 00:45:37,093
Speaker 21: Unbelievable how many people see it and there's another actually

1006
00:45:37,133 --> 00:45:41,133
Speaker 21: there's another fire and Dunedin today out where we used

1007
00:45:41,133 --> 00:45:43,773
Speaker 21: to be. We're now in saddle Hill and again you

1008
00:45:43,853 --> 00:45:48,333
Speaker 21: know people putting on Facebook aide there's a fire. It's yeah,

1009
00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:52,252
Speaker 21: you can't do anything without somebody noticing our farm.

1010
00:45:52,293 --> 00:45:55,613
Speaker 2: When I was growing up, Richard was over near the

1011
00:45:55,653 --> 00:45:58,933
Speaker 2: Pineapple Track, which is you know, yep, way over there

1012
00:45:59,133 --> 00:46:02,613
Speaker 2: up Silver Peaks way, and we've get when we were

1013
00:46:02,613 --> 00:46:04,773
Speaker 2: doing a burnoff, we'd get calls from the peninsula over

1014
00:46:04,813 --> 00:46:09,333
Speaker 2: where you're talking about. Yeah, so people so very far away.

1015
00:46:10,053 --> 00:46:11,853
Speaker 2: And what I love about that is they don't think

1016
00:46:11,853 --> 00:46:15,253
Speaker 2: anyone else has seen it across the one hundred thousand

1017
00:46:15,253 --> 00:46:19,173
Speaker 2: people in the basin between between where they're calling from

1018
00:46:19,533 --> 00:46:21,413
Speaker 2: and where we were. They didn't think anyone else has

1019
00:46:21,453 --> 00:46:21,773
Speaker 2: seen it.

1020
00:46:22,653 --> 00:46:26,653
Speaker 21: Yeah, I don't see. There's plenty of eyes out there still.

1021
00:46:27,253 --> 00:46:29,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly has a lot of do goods out there.

1022
00:46:29,053 --> 00:46:30,773
Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy that they had, you know, fifty

1023
00:46:30,813 --> 00:46:33,652
Speaker 3: six calls, but I know it's punishing for them, but

1024
00:46:33,733 --> 00:46:36,772
Speaker 3: surely it's it's more punishing having the fire engine there,

1025
00:46:36,893 --> 00:46:39,373
Speaker 3: lights blaring, sever and says it's under control, rather than

1026
00:46:39,453 --> 00:46:41,693
Speaker 3: just tell all those do goods, Hey, it's a permit.

1027
00:46:41,893 --> 00:46:44,693
Speaker 3: Just relax. It's all good. We're onto it. But maybe

1028
00:46:44,733 --> 00:46:47,173
Speaker 3: after fifty calls are like, I'll bugget this, we'll just

1029
00:46:47,213 --> 00:46:47,732
Speaker 3: go out there.

1030
00:46:47,853 --> 00:46:49,373
Speaker 21: Yeah, we'll get out there.

1031
00:46:52,053 --> 00:46:55,333
Speaker 2: Thanks for your call, Richard, appreciate it. This is said

1032
00:46:56,213 --> 00:47:01,493
Speaker 2: last rule burnoff took out my rooster. Oh since since

1033
00:47:01,573 --> 00:47:04,213
Speaker 2: I have replaced that rooster with a duck. Now I

1034
00:47:04,253 --> 00:47:06,732
Speaker 2: get woken up with a quack at dawn.

1035
00:47:07,653 --> 00:47:08,973
Speaker 3: Well that's happy, din, isn't it.

1036
00:47:09,253 --> 00:47:11,573
Speaker 2: The rural burnoff took out the roaster and poor rooster.

1037
00:47:12,773 --> 00:47:14,453
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty to eighty is the

1038
00:47:14,533 --> 00:47:17,973
Speaker 3: number to call. Nine two nine two is the text mark.

1039
00:47:19,333 --> 00:47:20,973
Speaker 11: Yeah, hello gentlemen, how are we today?

1040
00:47:21,893 --> 00:47:23,013
Speaker 2: Thank you? Thanks for calling.

1041
00:47:23,693 --> 00:47:26,652
Speaker 11: Excellent look at it wasn't a controlled Burns. As a

1042
00:47:26,693 --> 00:47:28,413
Speaker 11: young ten year old, I wanted to see what would

1043
00:47:28,453 --> 00:47:31,692
Speaker 11: happen if I poured petrol into a river. Now, this

1044
00:47:31,813 --> 00:47:34,373
Speaker 11: river is sort of a river that runs through Blenham,

1045
00:47:34,413 --> 00:47:37,853
Speaker 11: a Parwa river, and the old man used to get

1046
00:47:37,853 --> 00:47:39,813
Speaker 11: his petrol for the mar and a flagon jar. So

1047
00:47:39,933 --> 00:47:42,293
Speaker 11: I poured this whole flag in and then lit it as

1048
00:47:42,333 --> 00:47:46,573
Speaker 11: you do ye, and spectacular it crossed the river. Next

1049
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:49,893
Speaker 11: minute we had the whole bank a light. Not only

1050
00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:52,533
Speaker 11: did all of Moulburn's fire appliances turn up, we had

1051
00:47:52,573 --> 00:47:55,573
Speaker 11: Woodman Air Force coming over and they'd even called Nelson.

1052
00:47:56,093 --> 00:47:58,293
Speaker 11: So you can imagine eleven year old kid man did

1053
00:47:58,293 --> 00:48:01,013
Speaker 11: I scarp? And to this day I've never told my

1054
00:48:01,133 --> 00:48:02,493
Speaker 11: parents I was the one that did it.

1055
00:48:02,493 --> 00:48:04,973
Speaker 3: Oh, they never found you. This is your nation, you know.

1056
00:48:06,213 --> 00:48:08,333
Speaker 11: No, and that's why I haven't given you my full name.

1057
00:48:08,933 --> 00:48:13,172
Speaker 2: Wow, so are we and the many many, many, many

1058
00:48:13,173 --> 00:48:15,013
Speaker 2: thousands of people listening right now, the first people to

1059
00:48:15,013 --> 00:48:15,773
Speaker 2: hear about.

1060
00:48:15,573 --> 00:48:18,373
Speaker 11: This, Marte, that you are indeed you are.

1061
00:48:18,453 --> 00:48:20,893
Speaker 3: Indeed, do you feel lighter now that you've just let

1062
00:48:20,933 --> 00:48:22,373
Speaker 3: that off your t You've been holding onto that for

1063
00:48:22,373 --> 00:48:22,813
Speaker 3: a long time.

1064
00:48:22,853 --> 00:48:25,973
Speaker 11: Mate, Look I have. And then, to be honest, I

1065
00:48:25,973 --> 00:48:28,653
Speaker 11: haven't even told my kids on the wife or anything.

1066
00:48:28,853 --> 00:48:31,253
Speaker 11: Something I've just kept to myself because I was so

1067
00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:32,893
Speaker 11: shit scared of what might happen.

1068
00:48:33,013 --> 00:48:35,013
Speaker 2: You know, tell us the creeping feeling that you had

1069
00:48:35,013 --> 00:48:37,613
Speaker 2: because you've done something quite weird, as you do when

1070
00:48:37,613 --> 00:48:39,693
Speaker 2: you're ten, you go, I'll see what happens when I

1071
00:48:39,733 --> 00:48:42,173
Speaker 2: do this, and then it's gone so much worse than

1072
00:48:42,213 --> 00:48:45,493
Speaker 2: you could possibly imagine. And with a fire, it starts

1073
00:48:45,533 --> 00:48:46,933
Speaker 2: to get bad, and then it gets worse and worse

1074
00:48:46,933 --> 00:48:49,493
Speaker 2: and worse. Of the feeling of as you say, rising

1075
00:48:49,533 --> 00:48:50,933
Speaker 2: panic must have been quite something, Marte.

1076
00:48:51,773 --> 00:48:52,253
Speaker 20: It was.

1077
00:48:52,333 --> 00:48:55,053
Speaker 11: It was an absolute panic. Because I'm talking back in

1078
00:48:55,093 --> 00:48:56,813
Speaker 11: the days when the old man used to give you

1079
00:48:56,813 --> 00:48:59,373
Speaker 11: a hiding for doing things wrong. So I knew that

1080
00:48:59,453 --> 00:49:01,133
Speaker 11: if I got caught, man, I wasn't going to be

1081
00:49:01,133 --> 00:49:02,732
Speaker 11: able to sit down for a week. In fact, I've

1082
00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:04,573
Speaker 11: probably knocked into the middle of the next week, you

1083
00:49:04,653 --> 00:49:08,613
Speaker 11: probably panic without a shred of it out. I'm not

1084
00:49:08,613 --> 00:49:09,533
Speaker 11: going to argue at that point.

1085
00:49:09,573 --> 00:49:13,053
Speaker 3: Matt, Yeah, it was initially. Did you think you could

1086
00:49:13,093 --> 00:49:14,893
Speaker 3: do something about it? I mean, if it jumps the river,

1087
00:49:15,133 --> 00:49:16,692
Speaker 3: you're kind of buggered, right, It's not like you can

1088
00:49:17,573 --> 00:49:18,493
Speaker 3: try and swim.

1089
00:49:18,253 --> 00:49:21,133
Speaker 11: Across made I'm ten eleven years I didn't think of

1090
00:49:21,133 --> 00:49:23,253
Speaker 11: the repercussions. I just poured it in to see what

1091
00:49:23,253 --> 00:49:26,333
Speaker 11: would happen. Next minute. Luckily it floated to the other side,

1092
00:49:26,373 --> 00:49:29,493
Speaker 11: which was thank god. It was all paddocks at this stage.

1093
00:49:29,533 --> 00:49:31,533
Speaker 11: It's all built now, but it was all paddocks back then,

1094
00:49:31,893 --> 00:49:34,173
Speaker 11: and some poor old farm had his whole bloody paddocks.

1095
00:49:34,173 --> 00:49:36,013
Speaker 11: Happened like you know, it went up the bank and

1096
00:49:36,093 --> 00:49:41,053
Speaker 11: onto the paddocks, and yeah, I literally ship myself literally.

1097
00:49:41,253 --> 00:49:43,172
Speaker 2: It would have been pretty hard to work out what

1098
00:49:43,213 --> 00:49:45,773
Speaker 2: had happened if you were like trying to do a

1099
00:49:45,773 --> 00:49:49,413
Speaker 2: forensics investigation ahead of the spire start. It's like, I mean,

1100
00:49:49,533 --> 00:49:52,893
Speaker 2: now it jumped because the evidence would have been washed

1101
00:49:52,933 --> 00:49:54,292
Speaker 2: down the river. What's the fire start?

1102
00:49:54,413 --> 00:49:56,573
Speaker 11: Yeah, it was long gone. I broke the flag and

1103
00:49:56,613 --> 00:49:58,373
Speaker 11: so the old man never knew what happened to that.

1104
00:49:59,493 --> 00:50:02,653
Speaker 3: It sounded like the perfect crime makes me Mark, Well.

1105
00:50:02,493 --> 00:50:04,533
Speaker 11: Yeah it was at the time. They're talking back in

1106
00:50:04,573 --> 00:50:06,533
Speaker 11: the seventies. We did minor things back then.

1107
00:50:07,053 --> 00:50:10,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, so how many how many units did you say

1108
00:50:10,093 --> 00:50:11,973
Speaker 2: turned up? And there was also there.

1109
00:50:11,973 --> 00:50:14,293
Speaker 11: Was street from Blenham too, from wood Boon and they

1110
00:50:14,333 --> 00:50:15,893
Speaker 11: had Nelson on the way coming over.

1111
00:50:16,533 --> 00:50:18,172
Speaker 3: Oh it's so good.

1112
00:50:18,333 --> 00:50:20,613
Speaker 2: I mean it's a it's it's dry. It can it

1113
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:23,533
Speaker 2: can get very dry up there. Yeah, I mean it

1114
00:50:23,613 --> 00:50:24,613
Speaker 2: could have been a lot worse.

1115
00:50:25,133 --> 00:50:28,293
Speaker 3: That anxiety for you, Mark, and the days after and

1116
00:50:28,333 --> 00:50:31,733
Speaker 3: the months after, you just would have been terrified that Jesus,

1117
00:50:31,733 --> 00:50:33,093
Speaker 3: they're going to find me, They're going to find me.

1118
00:50:33,933 --> 00:50:36,093
Speaker 11: I kept the lay profile for a long time, for

1119
00:50:36,133 --> 00:50:37,973
Speaker 11: a good couple of years, didn't do a thing wrong.

1120
00:50:38,173 --> 00:50:40,453
Speaker 11: I was the best behave little kid you can ever find,

1121
00:50:40,533 --> 00:50:41,133
Speaker 11: straight in Jaz.

1122
00:50:41,213 --> 00:50:43,692
Speaker 2: What if your parents were like I think that that

1123
00:50:43,733 --> 00:50:46,653
Speaker 2: fire really scared Mark. You know, just seeing a fire

1124
00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:49,133
Speaker 2: like that, he's scared him straight. You know, no idea

1125
00:50:49,133 --> 00:50:52,212
Speaker 2: that it was actually you that that started at Well,

1126
00:50:52,293 --> 00:50:54,653
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I think. On behalf of Tyler

1127
00:50:54,693 --> 00:50:58,013
Speaker 2: and I and news talks, they'd be and the the

1128
00:50:58,213 --> 00:51:00,733
Speaker 2: everyone listening across the country. We forgive you for what

1129
00:51:00,733 --> 00:51:02,212
Speaker 2: you did when you were a ten Mark, and I.

1130
00:51:02,133 --> 00:51:04,373
Speaker 11: Think it's time you're a gentleman and a scholar. You're

1131
00:51:04,413 --> 00:51:06,652
Speaker 11: a gentleman and a scholar, and there's not many of

1132
00:51:06,693 --> 00:51:07,853
Speaker 11: us left just quietly either.

1133
00:51:09,013 --> 00:51:09,733
Speaker 2: Thanks for cool, Mat.

1134
00:51:09,853 --> 00:51:11,613
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a good man. I eatee hundred and eighty

1135
00:51:11,653 --> 00:51:14,293
Speaker 3: ten eighty. So number to call, keen to hear about

1136
00:51:14,293 --> 00:51:17,453
Speaker 3: your burnoff stories going a bit sideways? Nine to nine

1137
00:51:17,493 --> 00:51:19,173
Speaker 3: two's the text. It's twenty one pus.

1138
00:51:18,933 --> 00:51:26,413
Speaker 9: Two Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh, eight hundred

1139
00:51:26,493 --> 00:51:28,413
Speaker 9: eighty ten eighty on news talk said be.

1140
00:51:29,373 --> 00:51:32,213
Speaker 3: Twenty four pass too. We're talking about Burnoff's gone wrong.

1141
00:51:32,333 --> 00:51:33,133
Speaker 3: I love to hear from you.

1142
00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:33,253
Speaker 20: One.

1143
00:51:33,253 --> 00:51:35,253
Speaker 2: I e one hundred eighteen eighty this Texas says, Tell

1144
00:51:35,293 --> 00:51:37,093
Speaker 2: me I didn't hear what I think I heard. Did

1145
00:51:37,133 --> 00:51:39,252
Speaker 2: Matt just suggest a ten year old should be beaten

1146
00:51:39,333 --> 00:51:41,853
Speaker 2: up by his father? I hope I didn't hear that.

1147
00:51:41,893 --> 00:51:44,133
Speaker 2: Absolutely disgusting. Every day you say something worse than the

1148
00:51:44,173 --> 00:51:46,453
Speaker 2: day before. No, you did hear me say that? Yeah,

1149
00:51:46,573 --> 00:51:47,453
Speaker 2: you did hear me say that.

1150
00:51:47,533 --> 00:51:48,773
Speaker 3: Yep, your ears working fine.

1151
00:51:48,813 --> 00:51:53,293
Speaker 2: Mark had Mark in the seventies if you didn't. Hear

1152
00:51:53,813 --> 00:51:57,853
Speaker 2: had poured a bunch of fuel onto a river to

1153
00:51:57,893 --> 00:52:00,133
Speaker 2: see what would happen. Lit it and it burnt. The

1154
00:52:00,173 --> 00:52:06,493
Speaker 2: whole burned in an entire several several paddocks. Yep, so

1155
00:52:06,733 --> 00:52:09,652
Speaker 2: it feels like, you know, seventies logic. He probably did

1156
00:52:09,653 --> 00:52:13,172
Speaker 2: deserve a whack, right, exactly. And every day you say

1157
00:52:13,213 --> 00:52:14,973
Speaker 2: something worse than the day before. But you keep coming back,

1158
00:52:15,013 --> 00:52:15,293
Speaker 2: don't you.

1159
00:52:15,373 --> 00:52:17,173
Speaker 3: Yep, you're still here, You're still.

1160
00:52:17,053 --> 00:52:18,533
Speaker 2: Listening your sucker for punishment.

1161
00:52:18,573 --> 00:52:20,933
Speaker 3: He certainly are. And you'll stick around.

1162
00:52:20,933 --> 00:52:24,493
Speaker 2: We know that, and we'll see you tomorrow. Yeah, the

1163
00:52:24,653 --> 00:52:26,173
Speaker 2: text number to complain again tomorrow.

1164
00:52:27,093 --> 00:52:29,533
Speaker 3: Simon, how are you? Mate?

1165
00:52:29,093 --> 00:52:31,133
Speaker 6: But not too bad?

1166
00:52:31,213 --> 00:52:31,493
Speaker 20: Guys.

1167
00:52:31,573 --> 00:52:35,533
Speaker 6: Hearing his stories about burnoffs I live. I know my

1168
00:52:35,613 --> 00:52:38,533
Speaker 6: dame won't be having just talking about it. But he's

1169
00:52:38,573 --> 00:52:42,333
Speaker 6: the farmer, and he had a large plantation cleared of

1170
00:52:42,693 --> 00:52:46,893
Speaker 6: pine trees, and when that's finished, obviously all the left

1171
00:52:46,893 --> 00:52:48,853
Speaker 6: over crap they'd all just pushed it up, and I

1172
00:52:48,853 --> 00:52:51,853
Speaker 6: think it could have easily been over maybe one hundred

1173
00:52:51,893 --> 00:52:56,533
Speaker 6: meters of rubbish that could be burnt. And he rang

1174
00:52:56,573 --> 00:52:57,973
Speaker 6: me and said, hey, you're going to be homes and

1175
00:52:58,053 --> 00:52:59,613
Speaker 6: not going to burn that stuff, and I said, I

1176
00:52:59,773 --> 00:53:05,333
Speaker 6: you contact the fighter. I'm bad you telling. And we've

1177
00:53:05,373 --> 00:53:07,973
Speaker 6: actually went out that night and when we came home,

1178
00:53:09,293 --> 00:53:12,093
Speaker 6: there's all these red lights flashing on this property, like

1179
00:53:12,253 --> 00:53:16,213
Speaker 6: there was just just amazing number of lights. So I

1180
00:53:16,293 --> 00:53:18,213
Speaker 6: ran and got his wife on the phone, and she

1181
00:53:18,373 --> 00:53:22,413
Speaker 6: said that that many phone calls that they actually got

1182
00:53:22,413 --> 00:53:25,093
Speaker 6: the area commander up and he could see the gloveless

1183
00:53:25,093 --> 00:53:26,853
Speaker 6: sky from his house and he would have lived at

1184
00:53:26,933 --> 00:53:34,453
Speaker 6: least ten And he turned up as well.

1185
00:53:33,053 --> 00:53:36,093
Speaker 2: One hundred one hundred meters of rubbishy saying pine.

1186
00:53:36,733 --> 00:53:38,933
Speaker 6: Yeah, and all the leftover bits from when the guys

1187
00:53:38,933 --> 00:53:40,573
Speaker 6: had felled the trees, you know, all the bits and

1188
00:53:40,653 --> 00:53:41,573
Speaker 6: branches and stuff.

1189
00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:46,973
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no need, mate, nothing to do with them.

1190
00:53:47,853 --> 00:53:49,973
Speaker 2: I can't see I can't see that going wrong.

1191
00:53:50,973 --> 00:53:52,693
Speaker 6: That's what I thought when I said to him, I

1192
00:53:52,813 --> 00:54:00,533
Speaker 6: just laughed. Next time and I saw him, he said, oh.

1193
00:53:58,173 --> 00:53:59,893
Speaker 3: Did I hear right, Simon that he invited all the

1194
00:53:59,933 --> 00:54:01,973
Speaker 3: neighbors around just for a bit of a bit of

1195
00:54:01,973 --> 00:54:03,172
Speaker 3: a party as he sets it off.

1196
00:54:03,813 --> 00:54:05,773
Speaker 6: Oh, not so much, but just letting us know that

1197
00:54:05,813 --> 00:54:07,013
Speaker 6: it was going to be a fire, and it had

1198
00:54:07,093 --> 00:54:07,692
Speaker 6: to be pretty cool.

1199
00:54:08,533 --> 00:54:09,172
Speaker 9: It's pretty good.

1200
00:54:09,613 --> 00:54:10,373
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool.

1201
00:54:10,453 --> 00:54:11,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wrong.

1202
00:54:11,533 --> 00:54:13,533
Speaker 2: It'll be fifty fifty six units there.

1203
00:54:15,893 --> 00:54:16,133
Speaker 10: Thank you.

1204
00:54:16,213 --> 00:54:18,453
Speaker 3: You call simon A couple of seks on nine two

1205
00:54:18,573 --> 00:54:19,013
Speaker 3: nine two.

1206
00:54:19,413 --> 00:54:21,813
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, this is not about controlled burn, but a

1207
00:54:21,853 --> 00:54:25,093
Speaker 2: rubbish whole fire. I was having trouble lighting. Does rubbish

1208
00:54:25,093 --> 00:54:27,413
Speaker 2: whole fire on the farm? I thought twenty leaders or

1209
00:54:27,413 --> 00:54:29,653
Speaker 2: so of petrol and diesel mix would help it along?

1210
00:54:29,773 --> 00:54:32,933
Speaker 2: Certainly did. The fireball erupted from the whole blue, all

1211
00:54:32,933 --> 00:54:35,773
Speaker 2: the rubbish from inside the hole to the outside, and

1212
00:54:35,813 --> 00:54:39,093
Speaker 2: the fireball went about thirty to forty meters in the air.

1213
00:54:39,253 --> 00:54:41,813
Speaker 3: Oh, how good. I think that'd be quite common, is there.

1214
00:54:41,853 --> 00:54:44,692
Speaker 2: I don't know how good that is. Yeah, that's that's

1215
00:54:44,693 --> 00:54:45,453
Speaker 2: a scrap.

1216
00:54:45,533 --> 00:54:47,653
Speaker 3: It is very bad. But there'd be a few people

1217
00:54:47,733 --> 00:54:49,853
Speaker 3: using a bit of gasoline just to help things along.

1218
00:54:50,093 --> 00:54:52,292
Speaker 3: And you don't really know how much gasoline to use, right,

1219
00:54:52,413 --> 00:54:55,853
Speaker 3: So then when you throw the lit stick on it, boom.

1220
00:54:55,693 --> 00:54:57,293
Speaker 2: You know that your fire has gone too big. When

1221
00:54:57,293 --> 00:55:00,853
Speaker 2: it makes the paper four rows of dead gorse and

1222
00:55:00,853 --> 00:55:02,813
Speaker 2: a fire on my farm. Smoke was so big you

1223
00:55:02,853 --> 00:55:06,773
Speaker 2: could see it from my local township twenty minutes drive away.

1224
00:55:07,133 --> 00:55:09,652
Speaker 2: Made the paper. The fire chief came.

1225
00:55:09,573 --> 00:55:12,573
Speaker 3: Out, Oh good, all right, headlines covering up. It would

1226
00:55:12,573 --> 00:55:14,373
Speaker 3: take in more of your CALLSZ one hundred and eighty

1227
00:55:14,413 --> 00:55:16,893
Speaker 3: ten eighty can you hear from you if you've had

1228
00:55:16,933 --> 00:55:20,333
Speaker 3: a burn off that got a bit hairy backfvery shortly?

1229
00:55:20,493 --> 00:55:21,333
Speaker 3: Headlines coming up?

1230
00:55:22,773 --> 00:55:26,773
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1233
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1235
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Speaker 14: mineral sands up to the global supply chain. The governments

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1238
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Speaker 14: on allies to sign deals on critical minerals. Vandals have

1239
00:55:57,253 --> 00:55:59,733
Speaker 14: coursed tens of thousands of dollars of damage at a

1240
00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:03,413
Speaker 14: school north of Auckland. The principle of Snell's Beat School

1241
00:56:03,693 --> 00:56:07,093
Speaker 14: says devices were broken, the high jump mat was slashed,

1242
00:56:07,333 --> 00:56:11,973
Speaker 14: windows were small and fire extinguishers were discharged in classrooms.

1243
00:56:13,133 --> 00:56:16,253
Speaker 14: Auckland's leading the rise and new home consenting in the

1244
00:56:16,373 --> 00:56:19,333
Speaker 14: year to December twenty twenty five, more than thirty six

1245
00:56:19,373 --> 00:56:22,293
Speaker 14: thousand homes were concented around the country. That's a nine

1246
00:56:22,333 --> 00:56:25,333
Speaker 14: percent in Greece on the year before. More than fifteen

1247
00:56:25,373 --> 00:56:29,613
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00:56:33,853 --> 00:56:36,692
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1250
00:56:36,733 --> 00:56:38,373
Speaker 14: to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

1251
00:56:38,053 --> 00:56:41,373
Speaker 3: Saki Elena's twenty nine to three.

1252
00:56:41,453 --> 00:56:43,613
Speaker 2: God bless you. Mark, haven't laughed so hard in such

1253
00:56:43,653 --> 00:56:45,413
Speaker 2: a long time. Had to pull over and wipe the

1254
00:56:45,453 --> 00:56:46,893
Speaker 2: tears away, bloody KII legend.

1255
00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:50,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, great the confession after all those years.

1256
00:56:50,613 --> 00:56:54,533
Speaker 2: A great story from Mark finally confessing to the huge

1257
00:56:54,573 --> 00:56:58,172
Speaker 2: fiery started with a classic he was ten, wasn't it? Yeah,

1258
00:56:58,173 --> 00:57:00,613
Speaker 2: classic ten year old plan. Let's see what happens if

1259
00:57:00,653 --> 00:57:03,573
Speaker 2: we pour some fuel on a river and light it. Yeah,

1260
00:57:03,813 --> 00:57:05,613
Speaker 2: we've all been there, float to the other side and

1261
00:57:05,613 --> 00:57:09,413
Speaker 2: set the entire bank on fire. You are aiding in

1262
00:57:09,453 --> 00:57:11,812
Speaker 2: a beating Marx crime. I referred the audio to the police.

1263
00:57:11,853 --> 00:57:15,373
Speaker 2: I'd say three months side minimum. But you can broadcast

1264
00:57:15,373 --> 00:57:15,973
Speaker 2: from yourself.

1265
00:57:16,253 --> 00:57:16,973
Speaker 3: That seems for you.

1266
00:57:17,213 --> 00:57:21,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, effective, simple ways to cover your burn heat

1267
00:57:21,653 --> 00:57:25,133
Speaker 2: with the tarp, any old tarp or polo thing, we'll do.

1268
00:57:26,053 --> 00:57:28,333
Speaker 2: Wait a couple of months, it will be bone dry.

1269
00:57:28,453 --> 00:57:31,173
Speaker 2: On a day when it's just stopped raining hard, whipped

1270
00:57:31,173 --> 00:57:33,653
Speaker 2: the tab off and said light everything around a so can.

1271
00:57:33,573 --> 00:57:36,693
Speaker 3: Wit Yeah, good tip that one. Yeah, it seems to

1272
00:57:36,733 --> 00:57:38,773
Speaker 3: make sense. Oh one hundred and eighteen eighties to number

1273
00:57:38,773 --> 00:57:40,413
Speaker 3: to call Graham. How are you?

1274
00:57:41,293 --> 00:57:41,493
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1275
00:57:41,613 --> 00:57:42,173
Speaker 22: Good a mate?

1276
00:57:42,173 --> 00:57:42,973
Speaker 20: How are you guys?

1277
00:57:43,093 --> 00:57:44,373
Speaker 3: Very good? Can you hear your story?

1278
00:57:45,453 --> 00:57:48,733
Speaker 23: Yeah? In the early seventies, I was in the British Army.

1279
00:57:48,773 --> 00:57:54,213
Speaker 23: I was an aircraft maintenance technician and working in West

1280
00:57:54,213 --> 00:57:57,893
Speaker 23: Germany and we used to have a thing called the Pig,

1281
00:57:57,933 --> 00:58:02,213
Speaker 23: which was a toable fuel tanker which held eight.

1282
00:58:02,213 --> 00:58:07,813
Speaker 8: Hundred gallons of jet fuel basically. And the boss called

1283
00:58:07,813 --> 00:58:10,213
Speaker 8: me into the old and he just said to me,

1284
00:58:10,973 --> 00:58:15,853
Speaker 8: take that land rover hook on that pig, or somebody

1285
00:58:15,933 --> 00:58:19,853
Speaker 8: let the lid off overnight got saturated in water as unusable.

1286
00:58:20,373 --> 00:58:23,293
Speaker 8: So we said, take that land rover, grab that pig,

1287
00:58:23,813 --> 00:58:28,573
Speaker 8: get rid of the fuel. So you're not allowed to

1288
00:58:28,573 --> 00:58:31,453
Speaker 8: answer back, right, So I jumped in the land rover,

1289
00:58:31,533 --> 00:58:33,453
Speaker 8: hooked the pig and drove around the camp, round the

1290
00:58:33,493 --> 00:58:37,013
Speaker 8: space as far away, you know, because the big camps

1291
00:58:37,293 --> 00:58:39,813
Speaker 8: from from anybody seeing what I was doing. And I

1292
00:58:39,813 --> 00:58:41,853
Speaker 8: saw this hole that had been dug in the ground

1293
00:58:43,413 --> 00:58:46,093
Speaker 8: on a on a just a flat area. So I

1294
00:58:46,293 --> 00:58:50,213
Speaker 8: just basically backed the pig up, don't take hundred gowns

1295
00:58:50,213 --> 00:58:53,373
Speaker 8: of kerosene in the hole, and drove it back to

1296
00:58:53,453 --> 00:58:57,613
Speaker 8: the squadron so unhooked it went into the office. Nothing

1297
00:58:57,693 --> 00:59:01,173
Speaker 8: was said, not in a wink, you know, and they

1298
00:59:01,253 --> 00:59:04,253
Speaker 8: went back to work. Later on that day, I saw

1299
00:59:04,373 --> 00:59:06,013
Speaker 8: I just looked out over the.

1300
00:59:06,453 --> 00:59:10,493
Speaker 24: From the squadron, excuse me, and there was this massive

1301
00:59:10,573 --> 00:59:15,373
Speaker 24: pool of black smoke just climbing into the sky, and

1302
00:59:15,413 --> 00:59:18,093
Speaker 24: the whole of this area I'd been to was on fire.

1303
00:59:19,813 --> 00:59:24,053
Speaker 24: And the hole was used by the Signals Regiment to

1304
00:59:24,093 --> 00:59:28,653
Speaker 24: burn their classified rubbish, right, and somebody had tipped a

1305
00:59:28,693 --> 00:59:32,053
Speaker 24: couple of sacks in it set it on fire, and

1306
00:59:32,173 --> 00:59:37,213
Speaker 24: it burned for about two days, and honestly, nobody said anything.

1307
00:59:38,533 --> 00:59:41,853
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's that's terrible from your KIMMANA got

1308
00:59:41,933 --> 00:59:45,533
Speaker 2: that land rubber, get that pig, get rid of that fuel.

1309
00:59:47,853 --> 00:59:50,133
Speaker 2: You did that, you got the laying rover, you got

1310
00:59:50,133 --> 00:59:51,213
Speaker 2: the pig, You got rid of the fuel.

1311
00:59:51,213 --> 00:59:53,373
Speaker 3: You're done. You did what you were told to do.

1312
00:59:55,493 --> 00:59:57,933
Speaker 23: Every time I walked in the office afterwards, he always

1313
00:59:58,013 --> 00:59:59,733
Speaker 23: used to give me this side eye glamp.

1314
00:59:59,973 --> 01:00:02,053
Speaker 7: You know, did not say anything.

1315
01:00:03,973 --> 01:00:06,173
Speaker 3: He knew it was just as much as fold as yours.

1316
01:00:06,813 --> 01:00:09,213
Speaker 2: That's a great story things. Thanks for sharing that.

1317
01:00:09,333 --> 01:00:10,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much.

1318
01:00:11,373 --> 01:00:14,453
Speaker 2: Lane Rover, get the pig, get rid of the fuel.

1319
01:00:15,533 --> 01:00:17,653
Speaker 2: Exactly what he did. That's so brutish, it's great.

1320
01:00:17,733 --> 01:00:20,293
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1321
01:00:20,373 --> 01:00:22,293
Speaker 3: number to call. Cople of text.

1322
01:00:21,973 --> 01:00:25,373
Speaker 2: Here, tell that guy, mark my hub little fire, same

1323
01:00:25,413 --> 01:00:29,293
Speaker 2: age got such a telling off that an adult light.

1324
01:00:29,333 --> 01:00:31,813
Speaker 2: He joined adult life, he joined the volunteer fiber grade.

1325
01:00:31,853 --> 01:00:35,013
Speaker 2: He might be his answer. He's sure got personality. You

1326
01:00:35,053 --> 01:00:37,373
Speaker 2: have to get on with other guys and a bit

1327
01:00:37,373 --> 01:00:40,573
Speaker 2: of a rebel. I reckon enjoys a bear or two

1328
01:00:40,693 --> 01:00:43,653
Speaker 2: after what they're doing. Yeah, I mean that's a great

1329
01:00:43,693 --> 01:00:46,613
Speaker 2: origin story. You know, when you watch a superhero movie,

1330
01:00:46,693 --> 01:00:49,293
Speaker 2: the villainois has an origin story. Yes, this is the

1331
01:00:49,293 --> 01:00:52,973
Speaker 2: good guy origin story. Yeah, he lit a fire my

1332
01:00:53,053 --> 01:00:55,333
Speaker 2: mate Kine when he was ten. Tin must be an

1333
01:00:55,373 --> 01:00:57,493
Speaker 2: age for this kind of thing, because my mate Kine

1334
01:00:58,533 --> 01:01:02,973
Speaker 2: he made it me. No, it was just so Kankane

1335
01:01:02,973 --> 01:01:06,893
Speaker 2: made a Molotov cocktail and threw it into his backyard

1336
01:01:07,333 --> 01:01:09,493
Speaker 2: and it went right at the backyard and burnt the barn,

1337
01:01:09,893 --> 01:01:12,253
Speaker 2: completely destroyed the barn and a whole back field.

1338
01:01:12,733 --> 01:01:14,893
Speaker 3: It's his parents found out about it.

1339
01:01:14,933 --> 01:01:15,373
Speaker 25: I take it.

1340
01:01:15,493 --> 01:01:16,933
Speaker 3: Oh that's pretty about to hide that.

1341
01:01:17,453 --> 01:01:20,653
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Caine boy Caane got. I don't think there

1342
01:01:20,653 --> 01:01:23,493
Speaker 2: has been anyone been as much trouble as Kane was

1343
01:01:23,653 --> 01:01:24,413
Speaker 2: after doing that.

1344
01:01:25,173 --> 01:01:27,453
Speaker 3: Right, beg very shortly, but of course taking your calls

1345
01:01:27,573 --> 01:01:30,453
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty keen to hear about

1346
01:01:30,453 --> 01:01:32,973
Speaker 3: your fire stories, the burnoffs that got out of control.

1347
01:01:33,053 --> 01:01:34,093
Speaker 3: It is twenty four.

1348
01:01:33,933 --> 01:01:37,653
Speaker 1: To three Matt and Tyler with you as your afternoon

1349
01:01:37,733 --> 01:01:41,693
Speaker 1: rolls on Matt Heathan Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda Again.

1350
01:01:41,773 --> 01:01:44,293
Speaker 9: You've cracked a code. Please go to codes every Day

1351
01:01:44,493 --> 01:01:45,013
Speaker 9: News Talks.

1352
01:01:45,013 --> 01:01:47,213
Speaker 3: They'd be for a good afternoon to you. It is

1353
01:01:47,253 --> 01:01:50,173
Speaker 3: twenty one to three and we're talking about bonfire or

1354
01:01:50,213 --> 01:01:53,053
Speaker 3: burnoff stories. They've got a bit hairy. Whether it was

1355
01:01:53,093 --> 01:01:54,653
Speaker 3: you or a neighbor or a friend. Love to hear

1356
01:01:54,653 --> 01:01:55,053
Speaker 3: from you.

1357
01:01:55,333 --> 01:01:57,693
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why you find that so funny. Sitting

1358
01:01:57,693 --> 01:02:02,293
Speaker 2: Paddocks on fight. Isn't funny, think of the firefighters. It's

1359
01:02:02,293 --> 01:02:04,293
Speaker 2: not funny. If it's not funny, why was I laughing?

1360
01:02:04,333 --> 01:02:04,493
Speaker 25: Then?

1361
01:02:05,213 --> 01:02:07,413
Speaker 2: I mean my notion it might not be funny to you,

1362
01:02:07,853 --> 01:02:09,773
Speaker 2: but there was something pretty funny about just a little

1363
01:02:09,813 --> 01:02:12,613
Speaker 2: ten year old, just just the horror of it just

1364
01:02:12,693 --> 01:02:15,253
Speaker 2: getting out of hands. You know, you do a little

1365
01:02:15,333 --> 01:02:18,973
Speaker 2: thing and then it starts burning a little bit because

1366
01:02:19,013 --> 01:02:21,013
Speaker 2: the fuel has gone to the other bank, and it's

1367
01:02:21,013 --> 01:02:22,773
Speaker 2: bigger and bigger, and it's bigger and bigger in your

1368
01:02:22,813 --> 01:02:24,133
Speaker 2: ten year old and you go, oh my god, I

1369
01:02:24,133 --> 01:02:27,453
Speaker 2: can't deal with this. And then there are multiple units

1370
01:02:27,493 --> 01:02:30,213
Speaker 2: coming from different towns and it's this massive disaster.

1371
01:02:30,533 --> 01:02:32,813
Speaker 3: You've bolted, you're hiding in your bedroom.

1372
01:02:32,453 --> 01:02:35,853
Speaker 2: And tell you this is in the seventies when it happened.

1373
01:02:35,893 --> 01:02:37,973
Speaker 2: So I think, I think we're all ready to move

1374
01:02:38,013 --> 01:02:42,613
Speaker 2: on as a nation for what happened in Marlborough. And

1375
01:02:43,053 --> 01:02:43,813
Speaker 2: it was Marlborough, was it?

1376
01:02:43,893 --> 01:02:44,053
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1377
01:02:44,053 --> 01:02:44,693
Speaker 3: It was Malborough ble.

1378
01:02:45,213 --> 01:02:47,253
Speaker 2: In Marlborough back in the seventies.

1379
01:02:47,293 --> 01:02:49,533
Speaker 3: It's time to forgive Mark after thirty six years of

1380
01:02:49,573 --> 01:02:52,173
Speaker 3: holding onto that and the fact that Mark.

1381
01:02:52,893 --> 01:02:55,493
Speaker 2: It was the first time he told anyone that's pretty funny.

1382
01:02:55,693 --> 01:02:58,693
Speaker 2: He hasn't told his wife or his kids, but he

1383
01:02:59,693 --> 01:03:02,493
Speaker 2: saw us as the safe pace to finally share the

1384
01:03:02,533 --> 01:03:05,333
Speaker 2: shame of them setting to so many paddocks.

1385
01:03:05,373 --> 01:03:07,653
Speaker 3: It makes me feel pretty. On the neighbor's farm, leash

1386
01:03:07,653 --> 01:03:09,533
Speaker 3: your mark, John, How are you?

1387
01:03:10,293 --> 01:03:10,493
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1388
01:03:10,653 --> 01:03:11,213
Speaker 11: And how are you?

1389
01:03:11,293 --> 01:03:13,253
Speaker 26: Is Tyler and all your workings there?

1390
01:03:13,413 --> 01:03:13,613
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1391
01:03:13,773 --> 01:03:15,893
Speaker 3: Very good, my friends. So you've got a fire pet story.

1392
01:03:16,893 --> 01:03:20,853
Speaker 26: Are you ready? Because it's haunted me all my life.

1393
01:03:20,893 --> 01:03:21,933
Speaker 3: This is a confession.

1394
01:03:22,853 --> 01:03:23,813
Speaker 26: It's a confession.

1395
01:03:24,133 --> 01:03:27,853
Speaker 2: Yes, a second of the day we absolved people of

1396
01:03:27,893 --> 01:03:28,973
Speaker 2: fire pit confessions.

1397
01:03:29,013 --> 01:03:31,573
Speaker 3: You've come to the right place, John, Thank you.

1398
01:03:33,173 --> 01:03:35,413
Speaker 26: You know the story about the pipe paper.

1399
01:03:36,013 --> 01:03:38,133
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, with the rats and such in the

1400
01:03:38,293 --> 01:03:41,733
Speaker 2: in the flute and the pipe yep.

1401
01:03:42,453 --> 01:03:49,173
Speaker 26: I was very young, new job. Some jeep died, are

1402
01:03:49,173 --> 01:03:49,613
Speaker 26: you ready?

1403
01:03:50,413 --> 01:03:56,733
Speaker 2: Somewhat diet sheep. Some sheep passed away ye, of natural causes.

1404
01:03:57,733 --> 01:04:00,853
Speaker 26: Yes, And I was told to take him to the

1405
01:04:01,013 --> 01:04:07,613
Speaker 26: awful fit mm hmm on the farm. Well, I was

1406
01:04:07,693 --> 01:04:10,293
Speaker 26: never there but before, but by God, when I got there,

1407
01:04:11,333 --> 01:04:20,333
Speaker 26: the ground underneath me was moving, absolutely crawling rats.

1408
01:04:20,493 --> 01:04:24,733
Speaker 2: Oh, it makes sense with the pie piper reference.

1409
01:04:27,333 --> 01:04:32,813
Speaker 26: The next mission, I just dropped the sheep. I couldn't

1410
01:04:32,813 --> 01:04:35,973
Speaker 26: go anywhere near the awful hole. And then on the

1411
01:04:36,013 --> 01:04:39,013
Speaker 26: way back to the farm, I thought, yeah, I've got

1412
01:04:39,053 --> 01:04:43,213
Speaker 26: to do something here. I went and got some diesel

1413
01:04:44,733 --> 01:04:47,093
Speaker 26: and I filled up a big container of diesel.

1414
01:04:48,013 --> 01:04:49,093
Speaker 6: I got brave.

1415
01:04:49,533 --> 01:04:52,173
Speaker 2: How old were you at this point, John, I.

1416
01:04:52,333 --> 01:04:54,533
Speaker 11: Was only fifteen ye.

1417
01:04:56,613 --> 01:05:00,733
Speaker 26: And I'm well retired. And I went back to the hole.

1418
01:05:01,893 --> 01:05:04,533
Speaker 26: And I got back and I could see the rats

1419
01:05:04,693 --> 01:05:08,293
Speaker 26: on the sheep that I already left there dirty bust.

1420
01:05:09,413 --> 01:05:10,493
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1421
01:05:11,373 --> 01:05:15,573
Speaker 26: I poured the diesel all around the hole and in

1422
01:05:15,613 --> 01:05:20,333
Speaker 26: the big hole, and I thought, okay, here goes. I

1423
01:05:20,373 --> 01:05:24,933
Speaker 26: had a match and I threw it in there. Oh,

1424
01:05:25,013 --> 01:05:30,493
Speaker 26: it's haunted me all my life. These rats, millions of

1425
01:05:30,533 --> 01:05:36,133
Speaker 26: the baggers come out of this hole, and they're like fireballs.

1426
01:05:37,453 --> 01:05:41,453
Speaker 26: And I took off and I was in a massy

1427
01:05:42,373 --> 01:05:43,853
Speaker 26: Ferguson tractor.

1428
01:05:45,773 --> 01:05:47,333
Speaker 2: Fast as possible get away vehicle.

1429
01:05:48,533 --> 01:05:50,533
Speaker 11: Have you got a handkerchief with you?

1430
01:05:50,853 --> 01:05:52,853
Speaker 3: I've got one here.

1431
01:05:55,133 --> 01:05:57,773
Speaker 26: I have been haunted all my life.

1432
01:05:59,693 --> 01:06:02,093
Speaker 2: So the burning rats, You've got millions of burning rats

1433
01:06:02,133 --> 01:06:06,013
Speaker 2: just screaming out there on fire. Horror. So this is

1434
01:06:06,053 --> 01:06:07,213
Speaker 2: this is hell you're describing?

1435
01:06:07,933 --> 01:06:16,373
Speaker 26: This was how absolutely it was a nightmare, and you imagine.

1436
01:06:16,573 --> 01:06:17,133
Speaker 11: You are right.

1437
01:06:17,773 --> 01:06:18,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're god, We're got.

1438
01:06:18,973 --> 01:06:21,173
Speaker 2: It's good. This is good stuff. It's good stuff.

1439
01:06:22,373 --> 01:06:28,053
Speaker 26: Well, I forgot about the smell. And of course this

1440
01:06:28,253 --> 01:06:32,773
Speaker 26: thing was on a light, dirty rats, and the and

1441
01:06:32,813 --> 01:06:37,253
Speaker 26: the it just burnt and burnt, and the smell drifted

1442
01:06:37,373 --> 01:06:44,213
Speaker 26: over the coming to the township, and I'm going, oh,

1443
01:06:44,333 --> 01:06:47,053
Speaker 26: the smell was just unbelievable.

1444
01:06:47,573 --> 01:06:49,893
Speaker 3: With the townsfolk talking about it, John, did that come

1445
01:06:49,973 --> 01:06:52,013
Speaker 3: up that what the hell is that smell? It smells

1446
01:06:52,013 --> 01:06:52,653
Speaker 3: like burning rats?

1447
01:06:53,573 --> 01:06:53,773
Speaker 10: Yep?

1448
01:06:54,973 --> 01:06:56,253
Speaker 3: Did and you into this.

1449
01:06:56,573 --> 01:06:59,053
Speaker 26: No, I didn't tell the town No, I keep my

1450
01:06:59,093 --> 01:07:01,493
Speaker 26: mouth shut. But they said it was a horrible smell

1451
01:07:01,933 --> 01:07:05,493
Speaker 26: that somebody in the township said, oh, somebody's gone and

1452
01:07:07,213 --> 01:07:12,253
Speaker 26: burnt up an awful high. Now, I've never in my

1453
01:07:12,413 --> 01:07:16,853
Speaker 26: life seen these things, and I still today have a nightmare.

1454
01:07:17,453 --> 01:07:20,333
Speaker 26: And these rats coming out. Mate, I'm telling you that I.

1455
01:07:20,213 --> 01:07:22,653
Speaker 2: Think you created You've probably created a few more nightmares

1456
01:07:22,653 --> 01:07:29,773
Speaker 2: across the country people listening to this. And the burning

1457
01:07:29,853 --> 01:07:32,933
Speaker 2: rats didn't start other fires today because imagine burning rats

1458
01:07:32,973 --> 01:07:35,813
Speaker 2: could cover a bit of distance and set some other

1459
01:07:35,813 --> 01:07:36,333
Speaker 2: stuff off.

1460
01:07:37,173 --> 01:07:39,973
Speaker 26: Well, I was very lucky it was in the winter time,

1461
01:07:40,173 --> 01:07:44,973
Speaker 26: So yeah, I was very lucky that got.

1462
01:07:43,773 --> 01:07:45,653
Speaker 2: The rat's not so lucky, but you were quite lucky.

1463
01:07:46,813 --> 01:07:50,893
Speaker 26: Yeah, and it's actually it scarred me for the rest.

1464
01:07:50,693 --> 01:07:51,173
Speaker 19: Of my life.

1465
01:07:51,213 --> 01:07:55,253
Speaker 26: And I still wake up seeing these things everywhere. And

1466
01:07:55,373 --> 01:07:59,053
Speaker 26: I'm actually this person. I can't name the town and

1467
01:07:59,093 --> 01:08:03,533
Speaker 26: I can't name the farmer. This awful hole should have

1468
01:08:03,573 --> 01:08:06,893
Speaker 26: been cleaned up many, many years ago. And when you

1469
01:08:06,933 --> 01:08:09,493
Speaker 26: get close to the whole, you could see them running

1470
01:08:09,533 --> 01:08:13,933
Speaker 26: around underneath your feet. And I was only young man,

1471
01:08:14,053 --> 01:08:17,053
Speaker 26: and I just took the took this into my hands

1472
01:08:17,093 --> 01:08:20,053
Speaker 26: and thought, well, I'll get rid of them.

1473
01:08:19,653 --> 01:08:22,133
Speaker 3: And yeah, but you're doing the right thing.

1474
01:08:23,053 --> 01:08:25,253
Speaker 26: Yeah, it's haunted me for the rest of my life.

1475
01:08:25,333 --> 01:08:28,173
Speaker 2: You're kind of like Clarice from Silence of the Lambs.

1476
01:08:28,213 --> 01:08:32,932
Speaker 2: It's stream John in the Silence of the Burning Rats.

1477
01:08:33,853 --> 01:08:35,213
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1478
01:08:36,933 --> 01:08:39,652
Speaker 2: Have you have you? Has it affected your life in

1479
01:08:39,692 --> 01:08:42,372
Speaker 2: any other way apart from from night years?

1480
01:08:44,412 --> 01:08:44,973
Speaker 26: Yeah?

1481
01:08:45,093 --> 01:08:45,532
Speaker 6: Have you have?

1482
01:08:45,532 --> 01:08:47,772
Speaker 2: You become an intense animal lover to try and make

1483
01:08:47,853 --> 01:08:50,412
Speaker 2: up for the millions of rats that you've burned alive

1484
01:08:50,652 --> 01:08:51,293
Speaker 2: as a child.

1485
01:08:53,372 --> 01:08:56,052
Speaker 26: Well, I worked on a lot of fubs. So yeah,

1486
01:08:56,612 --> 01:09:00,012
Speaker 26: seeing that, that's what can you say?

1487
01:09:00,253 --> 01:09:02,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, we forgive you, John, We absolve you of

1488
01:09:02,732 --> 01:09:03,372
Speaker 3: all your sins.

1489
01:09:03,452 --> 01:09:06,293
Speaker 26: John, you're going to take it out of me.

1490
01:09:06,452 --> 01:09:06,652
Speaker 11: Yep.

1491
01:09:06,732 --> 01:09:08,973
Speaker 3: You can rest easy now. My friends worry about that.

1492
01:09:09,133 --> 01:09:09,452
Speaker 10: I don't.

1493
01:09:09,692 --> 01:09:12,412
Speaker 26: I don't have to worry about sleeping at night and

1494
01:09:12,452 --> 01:09:13,572
Speaker 26: these things running out.

1495
01:09:13,452 --> 01:09:16,772
Speaker 21: All over because it was it was horrible.

1496
01:09:16,293 --> 01:09:20,852
Speaker 26: And the sound of it. It was horrible, absolutely, and

1497
01:09:21,293 --> 01:09:23,852
Speaker 26: that tractor was full noise. Mate, I was out of there.

1498
01:09:24,333 --> 01:09:27,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I bet well. Thank you for sharing his story, John, Yeah,

1499
01:09:27,933 --> 01:09:29,732
Speaker 2: rip those million burning rats.

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01:09:30,013 --> 01:09:31,293
Speaker 3: It's a hell of a thing to deal with that

1501
01:09:31,293 --> 01:09:31,892
Speaker 3: would want you.

1502
01:09:32,372 --> 01:09:34,972
Speaker 2: I'm just hopefully we've silenced the screams of those rats

1503
01:09:35,013 --> 01:09:37,972
Speaker 2: for you, John. Yeah, you finally, finally let it go. Yeah,

1504
01:09:38,053 --> 01:09:39,372
Speaker 2: and you didn't even have to make friends with the

1505
01:09:39,372 --> 01:09:40,532
Speaker 2: serial killer for it to happen.

1506
01:09:41,732 --> 01:09:43,612
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your story, John, you're a

1507
01:09:43,652 --> 01:09:47,492
Speaker 3: good man. Right back, very shortly. It is thirteen to three,

1508
01:09:48,213 --> 01:09:50,372
Speaker 3: taking more of your calls one hundred and eighty, ten eighty.

1509
01:09:51,133 --> 01:09:53,572
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1510
01:09:53,612 --> 01:09:57,813
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons, news talks.

1511
01:09:57,532 --> 01:10:01,213
Speaker 3: It be news talks there be. It is ten to three.

1512
01:10:01,652 --> 01:10:06,253
Speaker 9: Are you ready to crack the Scoda code? Here we go.

1513
01:10:06,572 --> 01:10:08,053
Speaker 3: So it is great to have the good people of

1514
01:10:08,053 --> 01:10:11,133
Speaker 3: SCO on board with Mattheath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons, they've

1515
01:10:11,133 --> 01:10:14,133
Speaker 3: got a promo happening right now called Scoda Codes and

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01:10:14,173 --> 01:10:17,372
Speaker 3: if you need a bit of help cracking today's Scoter code,

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01:10:17,412 --> 01:10:22,293
Speaker 3: well we are here to do just that. So the

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01:10:22,333 --> 01:10:26,093
Speaker 3: clue the clue today is during.

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01:10:25,812 --> 01:10:29,852
Speaker 2: The Tour de France. What do the competitors right? Okay,

1520
01:10:29,893 --> 01:10:33,412
Speaker 2: that clue again, during the Tour de France, what do

1521
01:10:33,532 --> 01:10:34,652
Speaker 2: the competitors right?

1522
01:10:34,853 --> 01:10:37,452
Speaker 3: There you go, So make sure you're in to win

1523
01:10:37,572 --> 01:10:40,852
Speaker 3: a trip for two to the Tour de France. How great,

1524
01:10:40,853 --> 01:10:43,253
Speaker 3: there will be a fantastic prize. Just go to Skoda

1525
01:10:43,452 --> 01:10:46,933
Speaker 3: dot Co dot nz to get in the drawer. Just

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01:10:47,053 --> 01:10:51,053
Speaker 3: reminder we'll be doing that every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday

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01:10:51,253 --> 01:10:54,452
Speaker 3: each week. How good. Right back to the discussion we

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01:10:54,532 --> 01:10:57,412
Speaker 3: have been having about bonfire has gone wrong? O one

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01:10:57,492 --> 01:10:59,053
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call,

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01:10:59,133 --> 01:11:02,213
Speaker 3: but plenty of teachs coming through on nine two nine

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01:11:02,333 --> 01:11:05,813
Speaker 3: two is well, let's go to Nicholas Kiddy mates.

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01:11:07,772 --> 01:11:12,093
Speaker 27: Very well, because now we had a different issue to

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01:11:12,133 --> 01:11:13,973
Speaker 27: what you were talking about earlier about how everyone in

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01:11:14,013 --> 01:11:16,892
Speaker 27: the area calls the firebrigate. So we're down to Southland

1535
01:11:16,973 --> 01:11:19,692
Speaker 27: and that she was. We had those big winds back

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01:11:19,732 --> 01:11:21,572
Speaker 27: in October and so people have been doing burn.

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01:11:21,412 --> 01:11:22,053
Speaker 10: Offs every day.

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01:11:22,093 --> 01:11:23,692
Speaker 27: So you kind of see a fire in the distance,

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01:11:23,772 --> 01:11:25,892
Speaker 27: you don't really think about it. But I was driving

1540
01:11:25,893 --> 01:11:27,692
Speaker 27: around the farm one day and sort a big fire

1541
01:11:27,692 --> 01:11:29,213
Speaker 27: in the distance. I was like, Oh, that looks like

1542
01:11:29,253 --> 01:11:31,372
Speaker 27: it's on our place. Someone must be having a burnoff.

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01:11:31,772 --> 01:11:34,372
Speaker 27: You don't think much of it. Get closer and get closer. Oh,

1544
01:11:34,412 --> 01:11:37,053
Speaker 27: hang on, that looks quite close to the sheds, And

1545
01:11:37,333 --> 01:11:38,972
Speaker 27: as you get to the sheds here, it doesn't fall

1546
01:11:39,053 --> 01:11:41,652
Speaker 27: your light because you don't really think that.

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01:11:42,293 --> 01:11:43,932
Speaker 22: Yeah, you kind of just see a fire and don't

1548
01:11:43,933 --> 01:11:45,013
Speaker 22: really assume much of it.

1549
01:11:45,412 --> 01:11:47,052
Speaker 27: You don't really think it's going to be your shed.

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01:11:47,812 --> 01:11:48,932
Speaker 10: So yeah, that's.

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01:11:50,692 --> 01:11:53,253
Speaker 27: Why, Yeah, you've got to be give a careful I

1552
01:11:53,253 --> 01:11:55,293
Speaker 27: suppose when you're light the fire a whole hundred meters

1553
01:11:55,333 --> 01:11:58,732
Speaker 27: from the shed, that doesn't creep its way along. So

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01:11:58,732 --> 01:12:00,772
Speaker 27: so yeah, we kind of had to have the opposite issue.

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01:12:00,772 --> 01:12:03,253
Speaker 27: We always see a fire, you just assume that it's

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01:12:03,532 --> 01:12:05,652
Speaker 27: just someone having a burnoff until you realize your sho's

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01:12:05,692 --> 01:12:06,052
Speaker 27: on fire.

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01:12:06,253 --> 01:12:08,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is certainly the flipside of things that

1559
01:12:09,013 --> 01:12:10,652
Speaker 3: it would have been nice if some people called the

1560
01:12:10,652 --> 01:12:12,692
Speaker 3: fibrigade might have saved your ship.

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01:12:13,293 --> 01:12:16,253
Speaker 27: Are ye, Well, the shood's already gone by that point.

1562
01:12:16,452 --> 01:12:17,973
Speaker 27: By the time you call the fiber guard, they just

1563
01:12:18,013 --> 01:12:20,013
Speaker 27: came in to put out the hot spots. Usually call

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01:12:20,053 --> 01:12:22,772
Speaker 27: the neighbor first because they usually are more help to

1565
01:12:22,812 --> 01:12:25,253
Speaker 27: the fire. We go initially until the fiber goa take

1566
01:12:25,293 --> 01:12:29,372
Speaker 27: forty minutes to get there. So no, yeah, it's definitely

1567
01:12:29,372 --> 01:12:32,333
Speaker 27: you just gotta probably yeah, no one really I've got

1568
01:12:32,333 --> 01:12:34,732
Speaker 27: to go fire band or anything, so no one really

1569
01:12:35,013 --> 01:12:36,892
Speaker 27: tells the neighbors and having it burn off, it just

1570
01:12:36,933 --> 01:12:37,853
Speaker 27: kind of happens.

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01:12:37,652 --> 01:12:40,813
Speaker 2: So you can't get it's it's not the most flammable

1572
01:12:40,812 --> 01:12:43,133
Speaker 2: part of the country, is it, Nicholas.

1573
01:12:42,933 --> 01:12:46,972
Speaker 27: No, exactly, no, no, no, So that's why yeah, yeah,

1574
01:12:46,973 --> 01:12:47,652
Speaker 27: because it's.

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01:12:47,532 --> 01:12:50,253
Speaker 2: Just yeah, I mean, we don't we don't want to

1576
01:12:50,452 --> 01:12:53,372
Speaker 2: if someone sees a fire and they think that it's

1577
01:12:53,372 --> 01:12:56,053
Speaker 2: a fire, you know, then you still want them to

1578
01:12:56,093 --> 01:12:59,732
Speaker 2: call the fire department, you know in the end, Yeah,

1579
01:12:59,973 --> 01:13:02,213
Speaker 2: I mean, because they just don't. They just don't know.

1580
01:13:02,492 --> 01:13:04,133
Speaker 2: But you know that you know that you just you

1581
01:13:04,213 --> 01:13:07,093
Speaker 2: might know that you're just burning scrub, but it might

1582
01:13:07,133 --> 01:13:08,293
Speaker 2: be Nicholas's ship as well.

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01:13:08,412 --> 01:13:09,932
Speaker 6: So true.

1584
01:13:10,572 --> 01:13:14,173
Speaker 27: Yeah, yeah, if you called you called them every time

1585
01:13:14,213 --> 01:13:16,492
Speaker 27: you saw a fire in the district, that led be

1586
01:13:16,532 --> 01:13:20,173
Speaker 27: running around headless. Chuck said he'd go every single fear

1587
01:13:20,492 --> 01:13:25,492
Speaker 27: getting called out. Yeah kind of a shoot you didn't shoot?

1588
01:13:25,572 --> 01:13:27,052
Speaker 27: Was all right until I prove it otherwise.

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01:13:27,133 --> 01:13:29,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, good call Nicholas, Thank you very much for giving

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01:13:29,293 --> 01:13:32,973
Speaker 3: us a buzz. Nine ninety two is the text a

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01:13:33,013 --> 01:13:38,852
Speaker 3: couple coming through. I think we've had that one. This

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01:13:38,973 --> 01:13:43,412
Speaker 3: one here, tell that guy that my hubby little fire.

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01:13:43,452 --> 01:13:44,293
Speaker 2: I already done that one.

1594
01:13:44,333 --> 01:13:45,293
Speaker 3: I've already done that one.

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01:13:45,372 --> 01:13:47,572
Speaker 2: Our son was about eight, thought he would see what

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01:13:47,652 --> 01:13:50,572
Speaker 2: fire would do up to back of house amongst the

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01:13:50,572 --> 01:13:52,892
Speaker 2: pine trees. There was two hundred and fifty acres of

1598
01:13:53,093 --> 01:13:56,092
Speaker 2: pine trees adjoining our land that would have caught fire.

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01:13:56,293 --> 01:13:57,093
Speaker 2: Lucky I saw him.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Bruce. We've got about two minutes Bruce.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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01:14:03,572 --> 01:14:04,293
Speaker 9: Oh be quick?

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01:14:04,333 --> 01:14:07,293
Speaker 28: Then about forty years ago, my wife and I were

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01:14:07,293 --> 01:14:09,692
Speaker 28: living in Wellington. My wife was lucky enough to get

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01:14:09,732 --> 01:14:13,372
Speaker 28: a promotion to a new primary school as a teacher

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01:14:13,893 --> 01:14:16,852
Speaker 28: and actually got believing not a schoolhouse, which was part

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01:14:16,893 --> 01:14:17,732
Speaker 28: of the package for.

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01:14:18,093 --> 01:14:19,293
Speaker 10: Twenty two bucks a week.

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01:14:19,452 --> 01:14:20,133
Speaker 27: I kid you not.

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01:14:20,293 --> 01:14:23,692
Speaker 28: So anyway, we move into this property on the weekend

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01:14:23,732 --> 01:14:25,732
Speaker 28: and a weekend earlier than what we're supposed to do,

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01:14:26,452 --> 01:14:28,652
Speaker 28: and we're doing the bits and pieces. This is an

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01:14:28,652 --> 01:14:33,852
Speaker 28: old wooden property, no curtains.

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01:14:31,772 --> 01:14:33,932
Speaker 10: Just a basic tree bedroom house.

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01:14:33,973 --> 01:14:37,053
Speaker 28: So I decided to clean up a few things and

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01:14:37,093 --> 01:14:39,732
Speaker 28: maybe get the fireplace working and chuck some rubbish in

1617
01:14:39,772 --> 01:14:43,652
Speaker 28: the fireplace, so that's all good, no problems. And I

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01:14:43,692 --> 01:14:46,293
Speaker 28: found some old rubber mats which I had, which used

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01:14:46,293 --> 01:14:49,053
Speaker 28: to be in dairies when people brought milk bottles in

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01:14:49,492 --> 01:14:51,932
Speaker 28: and would put them on the counters so it didn't

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01:14:51,973 --> 01:14:54,492
Speaker 28: break them. So I had these old rubber mats that

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01:14:54,532 --> 01:14:57,692
Speaker 28: I thought i'd throw in the fireplace. So she started

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01:14:57,732 --> 01:14:59,492
Speaker 28: to get a bit warmer and a bit warmer and

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01:14:59,532 --> 01:15:01,973
Speaker 28: a bit warmer, and then all of a sudden she

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01:15:02,213 --> 01:15:05,572
Speaker 28: sort of took off of it. Didn't know really what

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01:15:05,652 --> 01:15:07,812
Speaker 28: was happening, and flames were coming out and then going

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01:15:07,853 --> 01:15:10,732
Speaker 28: back in the chimney, and next minute we see all

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01:15:10,772 --> 01:15:11,972
Speaker 28: these people running down.

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01:15:12,013 --> 01:15:13,973
Speaker 21: This is in Stokes Valley. We're going to hills on

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01:15:14,013 --> 01:15:14,692
Speaker 21: both sides.

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01:15:14,973 --> 01:15:15,772
Speaker 10: School's right in.

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01:15:15,853 --> 01:15:20,133
Speaker 28: Then all these people start running down towards us, and

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01:15:20,933 --> 01:15:24,732
Speaker 28: next minute we're here fibrigate and oh that would be funny.

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01:15:24,772 --> 01:15:25,772
Speaker 11: Imagine if that's here.

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01:15:26,652 --> 01:15:30,692
Speaker 28: Next minute, farbergate bangs on the doors, comes crashing in

1636
01:15:30,732 --> 01:15:33,253
Speaker 28: all the neighbors, including the principle of.

1637
01:15:33,213 --> 01:15:35,932
Speaker 10: The school, and da da, da da da.

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01:15:36,053 --> 01:15:40,213
Speaker 28: My wife's going nuts at me. She doesn't know anybody, big, big,

1639
01:15:40,253 --> 01:15:43,053
Speaker 28: big troubles, and so I just turned around, as you do,

1640
01:15:43,133 --> 01:15:44,732
Speaker 28: what make the best of the situation.

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01:15:44,893 --> 01:15:47,373
Speaker 21: Oh, anyway, my name is Bruce, sis is Michelle's.

1642
01:15:47,412 --> 01:15:48,012
Speaker 9: He's my wife.

1643
01:15:48,093 --> 01:15:51,253
Speaker 28: She has a new school teacher starting tomorrow at d

1644
01:15:51,253 --> 01:15:51,812
Speaker 28: your school.

1645
01:15:52,013 --> 01:15:55,652
Speaker 2: So you put up the smoke signal to meet everyone

1646
01:15:55,652 --> 01:15:57,732
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. Total success.

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01:15:57,893 --> 01:16:01,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant story, Thank you very much, Bruce. Right, Oh,

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01:16:01,612 --> 01:16:04,213
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number called keendy

1649
01:16:04,253 --> 01:16:06,932
Speaker 3: here about your fire stories when it's gone wrong, Whether

1650
01:16:06,973 --> 01:16:09,973
Speaker 3: that was a burnoff a bond nine to nine to

1651
01:16:10,013 --> 01:16:11,932
Speaker 3: two is the text as well. We'll keep this going

1652
01:16:11,973 --> 01:16:13,572
Speaker 3: for a little bit, but really keen to hear from

1653
01:16:13,572 --> 01:16:16,612
Speaker 3: your news sport and weather is fast approaching. Great to

1654
01:16:16,692 --> 01:16:19,372
Speaker 3: have your company this afternoon. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

1655
01:16:19,492 --> 01:16:22,412
Speaker 3: Stay right here. We will be back in a few minutes.

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01:16:35,293 --> 01:16:38,972
Speaker 1: Your home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Matt Heath

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01:16:39,013 --> 01:16:42,532
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda on News Talks.

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01:16:42,692 --> 01:16:46,012
Speaker 3: Be very good Afternoons. You welcome back into the program.

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01:16:46,253 --> 01:16:51,092
Speaker 3: Six past three and we're discussing burnoff's fire has gone wrong,

1660
01:16:51,133 --> 01:16:53,932
Speaker 3: incidents you had as a youngster. This is after broadcast

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01:16:53,933 --> 01:16:57,213
Speaker 3: a ball. Henry labeled himself a fooler after losing control

1662
01:16:57,253 --> 01:17:00,253
Speaker 3: of a bonfire on his Northland property. He's developing that

1663
01:17:00,372 --> 01:17:03,133
Speaker 3: into luxury accommodation, but he shared on social media that

1664
01:17:03,213 --> 01:17:05,932
Speaker 3: the local fire brigade showed up to his property after

1665
01:17:05,973 --> 01:17:07,253
Speaker 3: he lit it and lost control.

1666
01:17:07,572 --> 01:17:10,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, And it turns out that he's not

1667
01:17:10,093 --> 01:17:13,092
Speaker 2: the only New Zealander that's made an idiot of himself

1668
01:17:13,133 --> 01:17:16,852
Speaker 2: when it comes to burn offs out fires. My mate

1669
01:17:16,893 --> 01:17:19,372
Speaker 2: and I were having a drink, reminiscing about stupid things

1670
01:17:19,412 --> 01:17:22,133
Speaker 2: we did when we were young. We decided to start

1671
01:17:22,173 --> 01:17:24,492
Speaker 2: a little fire to cook some sausages on it. It

1672
01:17:24,572 --> 01:17:26,972
Speaker 2: wasn't burning enough, so he decided to check more petrol

1673
01:17:27,013 --> 01:17:29,333
Speaker 2: on it from the petrol can. Next minute, the can

1674
01:17:29,372 --> 01:17:32,052
Speaker 2: of petrol was on the fire. So the idiot dropped

1675
01:17:32,053 --> 01:17:34,053
Speaker 2: the petrol can and it started to set fire to

1676
01:17:34,093 --> 01:17:36,852
Speaker 2: the tires he had near his garage and let some

1677
01:17:36,933 --> 01:17:39,532
Speaker 2: of the garage on fire. Had to call one one

1678
01:17:39,572 --> 01:17:41,852
Speaker 2: one to get the fire department out. Three trucks turn

1679
01:17:42,253 --> 01:17:44,652
Speaker 2: up and told my mate to disappear so I could

1680
01:17:44,692 --> 01:17:47,652
Speaker 2: speak to them. Told them a little lie, but I

1681
01:17:47,652 --> 01:17:51,333
Speaker 2: could tell them. They didn't believe me, and they were

1682
01:17:51,452 --> 01:17:54,933
Speaker 2: very unhappy with us. He was forty eight. I was

1683
01:17:54,933 --> 01:17:55,892
Speaker 2: forty one at the time.

1684
01:17:57,293 --> 01:17:59,812
Speaker 3: It's a great twist at the end.

1685
01:17:59,933 --> 01:18:02,892
Speaker 2: The great twist is that they were well and truly

1686
01:18:02,933 --> 01:18:05,213
Speaker 2: old enough to know better than that. My brother and

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01:18:05,253 --> 01:18:08,973
Speaker 2: his mate about ten years old. Ten years seems to

1688
01:18:09,013 --> 01:18:13,972
Speaker 2: be the optimal time for fire stupidity for young male

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01:18:13,973 --> 01:18:14,452
Speaker 2: in New Zealand.

1690
01:18:14,572 --> 01:18:15,572
Speaker 3: It's a common theme today.

1691
01:18:16,213 --> 01:18:18,572
Speaker 2: Yes, I said, my mate Cane was ten when he

1692
01:18:18,612 --> 01:18:21,093
Speaker 2: burnt down the barn. Of course, a big fire. When

1693
01:18:21,093 --> 01:18:23,053
Speaker 2: they were mucking around in school holidays. They laid a

1694
01:18:23,093 --> 01:18:25,573
Speaker 2: trail of petrol from a moa to outside the garage.

1695
01:18:26,213 --> 01:18:28,333
Speaker 2: They lit the trail and it ran along the ground

1696
01:18:28,372 --> 01:18:31,532
Speaker 2: and blew up the moa inside the garage. Garage exploded

1697
01:18:31,612 --> 01:18:34,133
Speaker 2: and caught fire. When you're ten and just watching how

1698
01:18:34,213 --> 01:18:36,972
Speaker 2: far this goes out of control. They ran to our place,

1699
01:18:37,013 --> 01:18:39,173
Speaker 2: which was a street away. I was sitting on the

1700
01:18:39,173 --> 01:18:41,372
Speaker 2: front step. They tried to act innocent, and my brother

1701
01:18:41,412 --> 01:18:45,372
Speaker 2: casually said, oh, look, Ian's garage is on fire. There

1702
01:18:45,412 --> 01:18:47,732
Speaker 2: were many houses in the vicinity, a built up area,

1703
01:18:47,772 --> 01:18:50,012
Speaker 2: and no way you would pack up a person's garage

1704
01:18:50,013 --> 01:18:55,293
Speaker 2: from Besmoker places. They got caught when the fire brigade

1705
01:18:55,492 --> 01:18:58,812
Speaker 2: wooked out worked out the cause of the fire. Luckily

1706
01:18:58,893 --> 01:19:01,492
Speaker 2: their car was not in the garage and no one

1707
01:19:01,572 --> 01:19:04,173
Speaker 2: was home. Yeah, so that was that. They're like, oh,

1708
01:19:04,213 --> 01:19:07,173
Speaker 2: look Ian's garages on fire.

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01:19:09,253 --> 01:19:11,932
Speaker 3: That's so good, David, how are you this afternoon?

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01:19:12,612 --> 01:19:12,812
Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:19:12,853 --> 01:19:18,253
Speaker 19: Good fellows, good hey, I have to have a laugh now.

1712
01:19:18,572 --> 01:19:21,253
Speaker 19: And my mother at the time she would have been

1713
01:19:22,053 --> 01:19:26,213
Speaker 19: it would have been I was three, my brother was four.

1714
01:19:27,893 --> 01:19:33,692
Speaker 19: Out in Albany with Adam was a cowboy, and we

1715
01:19:33,812 --> 01:19:37,652
Speaker 19: just started lighting little bits of scrub and it was

1716
01:19:37,692 --> 01:19:41,572
Speaker 19: about an acre and it just all of a sudden

1717
01:19:42,053 --> 01:19:47,612
Speaker 19: went up an acre of bush scrub and we were

1718
01:19:48,412 --> 01:19:51,053
Speaker 19: and my mom she started thinking, oh, it's a little

1719
01:19:51,053 --> 01:19:55,093
Speaker 19: bit quiet nobody, you know. She came outside, saw all

1720
01:19:55,532 --> 01:19:59,452
Speaker 19: the fire, called the old boy from next door, Joel

1721
01:19:59,572 --> 01:20:03,572
Speaker 19: Jack Thompson. He just cut a couple of tracks all

1722
01:20:03,612 --> 01:20:06,692
Speaker 19: the way through it. I don't know how he got

1723
01:20:06,732 --> 01:20:09,572
Speaker 19: on the control and bugget if I how And then

1724
01:20:09,732 --> 01:20:14,293
Speaker 19: later on the fire department came out and just sort

1725
01:20:14,293 --> 01:20:17,612
Speaker 19: of drove past. But I mean, that's going back fifty

1726
01:20:17,652 --> 01:20:23,452
Speaker 19: five years ago, and you know all these different stories.

1727
01:20:23,772 --> 01:20:29,293
Speaker 19: It just cracks me up because kids back then played

1728
01:20:29,492 --> 01:20:35,812
Speaker 19: with fires, you know, like, oh, burning model airplanes with

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01:20:35,933 --> 01:20:39,173
Speaker 19: a a kink full of gas right next door, and

1730
01:20:39,213 --> 01:20:43,133
Speaker 19: then then a bit of plastic goes in the and

1731
01:20:43,213 --> 01:20:44,653
Speaker 19: it just goes.

1732
01:20:44,452 --> 01:20:46,812
Speaker 25: Up and fire and oh, it's just a.

1733
01:20:47,173 --> 01:20:50,013
Speaker 2: There's a huge desire. I remember it. I remember it

1734
01:20:50,053 --> 01:20:52,772
Speaker 2: being a kid and just having a massive desire to

1735
01:20:52,812 --> 01:20:55,053
Speaker 2: start little fires. I don't know what it was.

1736
01:20:55,973 --> 01:20:57,892
Speaker 11: It was great, it was great.

1737
01:20:57,973 --> 01:20:59,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just human psychology, isn't it.

1738
01:20:59,692 --> 01:20:59,812
Speaker 27: There.

1739
01:20:59,812 --> 01:21:02,213
Speaker 3: We've got a fascination with fire, and when you're a kid,

1740
01:21:02,853 --> 01:21:05,293
Speaker 3: you want to experiment and do those things, and fires

1741
01:21:05,293 --> 01:21:07,293
Speaker 3: obviously very very tempting.

1742
01:21:07,893 --> 01:21:08,093
Speaker 20: Yeah.

1743
01:21:08,333 --> 01:21:11,093
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Luckily you had old Jake Thompson around. I mean,

1744
01:21:11,133 --> 01:21:13,333
Speaker 2: if everyone's got you know, the world will be in

1745
01:21:13,333 --> 01:21:16,612
Speaker 2: a place if there's always an old Jack Thompson around

1746
01:21:17,173 --> 01:21:17,972
Speaker 2: and sort things out.

1747
01:21:18,093 --> 01:21:22,093
Speaker 19: Yeah, it was an old boy, but yeah, I just

1748
01:21:22,133 --> 01:21:24,852
Speaker 19: think kids these days, I can like some piles or

1749
01:21:24,853 --> 01:21:25,213
Speaker 19: something like that.

1750
01:21:25,333 --> 01:21:29,932
Speaker 3: But then yeah, anyway, right, thank you very much. David.

1751
01:21:30,452 --> 01:21:33,173
Speaker 3: Three or four, I mean that's you know, that's pretty young,

1752
01:21:33,372 --> 01:21:35,892
Speaker 3: but also young enough to not face the full wrath

1753
01:21:35,973 --> 01:21:38,333
Speaker 3: and responsibility of what you've done, you know. Yeah, you

1754
01:21:38,372 --> 01:21:39,692
Speaker 3: can get away with it at three or four.

1755
01:21:39,812 --> 01:21:41,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've got an old Jack Thompson around.

1756
01:21:41,772 --> 01:21:41,972
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1757
01:21:42,173 --> 01:21:42,372
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1758
01:21:42,452 --> 01:21:44,932
Speaker 2: The problem is that there's not an old Jack Thompson everywhere.

1759
01:21:45,013 --> 01:21:46,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, more Jack Thompson's in this world.

1760
01:21:46,893 --> 01:21:48,932
Speaker 2: And if there's no old Jack Thompson, then that acre

1761
01:21:48,973 --> 01:21:51,532
Speaker 2: of scrub can become ten thousand acres of scrub.

1762
01:21:51,652 --> 01:21:53,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go to Dave.

1763
01:21:53,492 --> 01:21:56,372
Speaker 10: Get A, Dave get Amen, Tyler.

1764
01:21:56,412 --> 01:21:59,292
Speaker 20: I got another Pyro here, our teen year old Piro.

1765
01:21:59,772 --> 01:22:01,053
Speaker 3: In a classic age for it.

1766
01:22:02,013 --> 01:22:06,333
Speaker 20: Yeah it is. It is so myself. And we had

1767
01:22:06,333 --> 01:22:09,932
Speaker 20: a box of matches acquired from somewhere and behind our

1768
01:22:09,973 --> 01:22:12,932
Speaker 20: garage there was it was an old wooden garage too,

1769
01:22:12,973 --> 01:22:17,092
Speaker 20: story sort of no man's land, so we we had safety. First,

1770
01:22:17,133 --> 01:22:20,692
Speaker 20: we put a motor around some leaves and we let

1771
01:22:20,732 --> 01:22:23,253
Speaker 20: the leaves up, had a nice little fire standing them out.

1772
01:22:23,333 --> 01:22:25,452
Speaker 20: And then we went down the road to do a

1773
01:22:25,492 --> 01:22:28,093
Speaker 20: similar thing, and we're doing a similar thing where we

1774
01:22:28,133 --> 01:22:30,372
Speaker 20: had a fire engine coming. So we put the fire

1775
01:22:30,412 --> 01:22:34,253
Speaker 20: out that we were lighting scarped and the fire engine

1776
01:22:34,612 --> 01:22:38,692
Speaker 20: wasn't coming for us, So where's the fire engine? So

1777
01:22:38,732 --> 01:22:43,333
Speaker 20: we walked back to we we've been at my parents' house,

1778
01:22:43,372 --> 01:22:46,093
Speaker 20: and I still remember my father had the garden hose

1779
01:22:46,133 --> 01:22:48,892
Speaker 20: putting it out behind the behind the garage, and then

1780
01:22:48,933 --> 01:22:53,293
Speaker 20: the farm gate put the rest of it out, and

1781
01:22:53,333 --> 01:22:55,333
Speaker 20: so that there was a big oak tree with about

1782
01:22:55,812 --> 01:22:58,732
Speaker 20: eight kids in it, and two sweating kids climbed up

1783
01:22:58,772 --> 01:23:03,372
Speaker 20: the tree and this fireman, this big fireman, was down

1784
01:23:03,412 --> 01:23:05,932
Speaker 20: there and he picked up the space of glass and

1785
01:23:05,973 --> 01:23:08,772
Speaker 20: he said, look, kids, the sun's hit the glass us

1786
01:23:09,053 --> 01:23:11,012
Speaker 20: and it's called it's caused the fire.

1787
01:23:12,253 --> 01:23:12,492
Speaker 6: Wow.

1788
01:23:12,812 --> 01:23:17,053
Speaker 20: And we couldn't contract contradict it's already there, could we?

1789
01:23:17,093 --> 01:23:18,213
Speaker 20: So we got away with that.

1790
01:23:18,532 --> 01:23:18,972
Speaker 9: Wow.

1791
01:23:19,133 --> 01:23:20,492
Speaker 3: How did you think?

1792
01:23:20,572 --> 01:23:22,892
Speaker 2: Do you think that he knew and was letting you off?

1793
01:23:23,013 --> 01:23:25,293
Speaker 2: Or do you think he'd just done the terrible forensics?

1794
01:23:26,173 --> 01:23:26,333
Speaker 11: No?

1795
01:23:26,652 --> 01:23:27,692
Speaker 9: I was bad friends.

1796
01:23:28,692 --> 01:23:33,852
Speaker 2: Education, How from that point of view that the fireman

1797
01:23:33,933 --> 01:23:35,173
Speaker 2: just turns up and says nah.

1798
01:23:35,253 --> 01:23:37,412
Speaker 3: It was definitely this bit of you're right boys.

1799
01:23:37,652 --> 01:23:41,053
Speaker 20: Yeah, And in the late seventies you would have got

1800
01:23:41,053 --> 01:23:43,452
Speaker 20: a jendle, even though it's not appropriate now, but we

1801
01:23:43,452 --> 01:23:44,293
Speaker 20: would have got a gendle.

1802
01:23:44,333 --> 01:23:45,732
Speaker 2: So I gived that for.

1803
01:23:45,853 --> 01:23:48,132
Speaker 20: Years and years and years. I didn't tell my father

1804
01:23:48,213 --> 01:23:51,532
Speaker 20: and he he died in the fifties. And at my

1805
01:23:51,812 --> 01:23:55,053
Speaker 20: mother's seventieth I thought, I'm going to confess this. I've been,

1806
01:23:55,173 --> 01:23:57,173
Speaker 20: you know, dragging, dragging it along for a long time.

1807
01:23:57,893 --> 01:23:59,612
Speaker 22: And I said.

1808
01:23:59,133 --> 01:24:01,452
Speaker 20: You know the garage and she said, I can't remember

1809
01:24:01,492 --> 01:24:02,452
Speaker 20: him the garage Bonnie down.

1810
01:24:02,532 --> 01:24:06,013
Speaker 11: I'm like, what, I kept this confession that.

1811
01:24:08,492 --> 01:24:09,852
Speaker 2: Ar's fitting down you can fishing.

1812
01:24:11,333 --> 01:24:13,173
Speaker 20: So it was just the back of the garage of site,

1813
01:24:13,213 --> 01:24:16,772
Speaker 20: all black. So the garage didn't actually fully right, just

1814
01:24:16,853 --> 01:24:17,333
Speaker 20: all black.

1815
01:24:17,412 --> 01:24:18,852
Speaker 2: But you've been carrying a lot.

1816
01:24:18,732 --> 01:24:21,452
Speaker 20: Of the vision, the versions of my father with the

1817
01:24:21,492 --> 01:24:24,012
Speaker 20: garden hose, you know, stick forever.

1818
01:24:24,253 --> 01:24:26,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, you dave.

1819
01:24:26,253 --> 01:24:28,892
Speaker 20: Yeah, they might confess it to him at a later time.

1820
01:24:29,133 --> 01:24:31,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. That's gonna be one of the great

1821
01:24:31,772 --> 01:24:37,213
Speaker 2: childhood get out of jail. I mean, turning up, it's

1822
01:24:37,213 --> 01:24:39,692
Speaker 2: probably this. It was this class. Definitely you said nothing

1823
01:24:39,692 --> 01:24:40,133
Speaker 2: to do with you.

1824
01:24:41,372 --> 01:24:42,452
Speaker 3: Up the tree.

1825
01:24:43,093 --> 01:24:45,732
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely.

1826
01:24:48,053 --> 01:24:50,492
Speaker 3: Is Dave. What a great story. All right, I think

1827
01:24:50,492 --> 01:24:53,612
Speaker 3: that's where we'll leave it. Fantastic calls and fantastic ticks,

1828
01:24:53,652 --> 01:24:55,852
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. But coming up after the break,

1829
01:24:56,133 --> 01:24:58,093
Speaker 3: we want to have a chat about this cost of

1830
01:24:58,293 --> 01:25:01,612
Speaker 3: school uniforms that is coming up next. It is quarter

1831
01:25:01,652 --> 01:25:04,972
Speaker 3: past three news talk'd be seventeen past three.

1832
01:25:05,093 --> 01:25:06,852
Speaker 2: You know, ahead of the Super Bowl, they leak some

1833
01:25:06,893 --> 01:25:08,852
Speaker 2: of the ads they want to get the biggest play

1834
01:25:08,893 --> 01:25:11,652
Speaker 2: on them. Have you seen that one for Exfinity, which

1835
01:25:11,732 --> 01:25:16,372
Speaker 2: is you know, internet provider at the Jurassic Park one.

1836
01:25:16,452 --> 01:25:18,812
Speaker 2: The budget for it must be phenomenal. It's got sam

1837
01:25:18,893 --> 01:25:22,572
Speaker 2: neal In and it's got Jeff Goldbluin, Laura Dern, everyone's

1838
01:25:22,572 --> 01:25:25,293
Speaker 2: back from it, Samuel L. Jackson, and they've been aged

1839
01:25:25,333 --> 01:25:30,452
Speaker 2: down in the ad. It's so good. So it's what

1840
01:25:30,572 --> 01:25:33,852
Speaker 2: happens if the park hadn't gone off and the dinosaurs

1841
01:25:33,853 --> 01:25:36,492
Speaker 2: hadn't escaped. So the idea of the ad is if

1842
01:25:37,013 --> 01:25:39,452
Speaker 2: Exfinity had been doing the communication, then it wouldn't have

1843
01:25:39,452 --> 01:25:41,133
Speaker 2: shut down and all the fences would have stayed on.

1844
01:25:41,532 --> 01:25:45,253
Speaker 2: So it's just the really really fun good weekend. They

1845
01:25:45,253 --> 01:25:47,412
Speaker 2: would have had a Jurassic Park if it hadn't gone down.

1846
01:25:47,492 --> 01:25:47,972
Speaker 3: How good.

1847
01:25:48,093 --> 01:25:51,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, very clever, drinking cocktails by the Paul getting selfies

1848
01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:52,693
Speaker 2: with dinosaurs.

1849
01:25:52,973 --> 01:25:54,893
Speaker 3: It's a mess of pile of shrimp instead of what

1850
01:25:55,333 --> 01:25:56,012
Speaker 3: it was in the movie.

1851
01:25:56,093 --> 01:25:57,612
Speaker 2: It's very very funny.

1852
01:25:57,732 --> 01:26:00,572
Speaker 3: Yeah. Those super Bowl commercials they and next level, aren't they?

1853
01:26:00,652 --> 01:26:00,892
Speaker 25: Yeah?

1854
01:26:00,973 --> 01:26:03,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, look it up. Yep, how good Jurassic Park themes,

1855
01:26:03,652 --> 01:26:05,213
Speaker 2: super Bowl ad funny that.

1856
01:26:05,412 --> 01:26:07,412
Speaker 3: Is coming up on Monday. Actually are looking very much

1857
01:26:07,452 --> 01:26:09,772
Speaker 3: forward to the super Bowl on Monday. But in the meantime,

1858
01:26:09,933 --> 01:26:12,652
Speaker 3: let's have a chat about this. So school boards need

1859
01:26:12,732 --> 01:26:15,452
Speaker 3: to keep the cost of uniforms in check. According to

1860
01:26:15,492 --> 01:26:18,213
Speaker 3: the Deputy Prime Minister, he's called the prices at some

1861
01:26:18,253 --> 01:26:21,492
Speaker 3: schools outrageous. Families some families are struggling with the cost

1862
01:26:21,532 --> 01:26:24,213
Speaker 3: of uniforms as a school year gets underway, some costing

1863
01:26:24,253 --> 01:26:27,253
Speaker 3: close to a thousand bucks. So David Seymour says the

1864
01:26:27,253 --> 01:26:30,612
Speaker 3: price was outrageous and unnecessary. He said, I quote, it's

1865
01:26:30,652 --> 01:26:34,133
Speaker 3: an astonishing figure and totally outrageous and unnecessary given the

1866
01:26:34,133 --> 01:26:35,892
Speaker 3: pressure that a lot of people are facing at this

1867
01:26:36,333 --> 01:26:39,093
Speaker 3: point in the economy. So that's what we want to

1868
01:26:39,133 --> 01:26:40,652
Speaker 3: have a chat about this. How much some of them are,

1869
01:26:40,652 --> 01:26:44,452
Speaker 3: how much some families are spending one thousand bucks?

1870
01:26:44,492 --> 01:26:46,053
Speaker 2: And here is how many kids is involved in the

1871
01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:46,732
Speaker 2: thousand bucks.

1872
01:26:46,732 --> 01:26:49,492
Speaker 3: That's a good question. This story doesn't specify.

1873
01:26:49,133 --> 01:26:51,372
Speaker 2: If they've got, you know, ten kids.

1874
01:26:51,093 --> 01:26:53,932
Speaker 3: It's a pretty good deal. Honty bucks of kids here

1875
01:26:54,053 --> 01:26:56,933
Speaker 3: has got one CD that's terrible. Yeah, west Lake for

1876
01:26:56,973 --> 01:27:00,293
Speaker 3: example West Late Boys High. They are roughly five hundred

1877
01:27:00,333 --> 01:27:05,572
Speaker 3: and fifty bucks per child, including shoes. Oh great question.

1878
01:27:05,812 --> 01:27:07,972
Speaker 2: So is that your polo?

1879
01:27:08,492 --> 01:27:13,653
Speaker 3: Yep, your jumper, yep, your shorts, some wounded shorts.

1880
01:27:13,293 --> 01:27:17,452
Speaker 2: Yep, your shoes, your socks and a jacket. I mean

1881
01:27:17,452 --> 01:27:18,612
Speaker 2: how much stuff are you getting for that?

1882
01:27:19,893 --> 01:27:20,133
Speaker 27: Yeah?

1883
01:27:20,173 --> 01:27:21,933
Speaker 3: I mean with shoes. Shoes were included. When I was

1884
01:27:21,933 --> 01:27:23,612
Speaker 3: at high school, I had to buy my well I

1885
01:27:23,612 --> 01:27:25,612
Speaker 3: didn't buy my own rugged sharks. My parents bought those

1886
01:27:25,612 --> 01:27:27,852
Speaker 3: for me. So it was when I was at Nelson Collog.

1887
01:27:27,692 --> 01:27:29,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's part of the uniform. You can't just

1888
01:27:29,293 --> 01:27:31,532
Speaker 2: rock up in any kinds of shoes. So the cost

1889
01:27:31,532 --> 01:27:32,772
Speaker 2: of the shoes has to be part of the uniform.

1890
01:27:32,812 --> 01:27:34,972
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, no, good point. Yeah, whether that gets

1891
01:27:34,973 --> 01:27:37,053
Speaker 3: taken into it, I suppose it does. Do they still

1892
01:27:37,093 --> 01:27:39,133
Speaker 3: have the Roman sandals that still.

1893
01:27:39,372 --> 01:27:43,532
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, ye Roman sandals. Yeah, the flesh kids wear

1894
01:27:43,572 --> 01:27:48,492
Speaker 2: the burks. Yeah, it's sithing because there's so many second

1895
01:27:48,492 --> 01:27:52,452
Speaker 2: hand uniforms going around though, right, because every year there's

1896
01:27:52,572 --> 01:27:54,253
Speaker 2: just a whole group of kids that leave that don't

1897
01:27:54,253 --> 01:27:56,412
Speaker 2: ever need the uniform. Actually, every year there's a group

1898
01:27:56,412 --> 01:27:58,612
Speaker 2: of kids that grow out of the uniform. My son,

1899
01:27:58,732 --> 01:28:01,612
Speaker 2: because he's the youngest out of a group of friends

1900
01:28:01,612 --> 01:28:03,532
Speaker 2: that all had kids going to school going through that,

1901
01:28:03,572 --> 01:28:06,572
Speaker 2: we knew. There's just so much school uniform that's been

1902
01:28:06,652 --> 01:28:10,092
Speaker 2: dropped after us. There's just dozens and dozens because everyone's

1903
01:28:10,253 --> 01:28:12,412
Speaker 2: friends have come around with bags full of school uniform

1904
01:28:12,452 --> 01:28:15,692
Speaker 2: and just drop them off, said, you know your son's

1905
01:28:15,692 --> 01:28:17,492
Speaker 2: still at school, you can use it because no one

1906
01:28:17,532 --> 01:28:19,492
Speaker 2: wants to throw them out. But there's so many of them,

1907
01:28:19,532 --> 01:28:22,932
Speaker 2: so I mean there are I mean I don't believe

1908
01:28:22,933 --> 01:28:24,732
Speaker 2: that you couldn't find them secondhand. And also if you

1909
01:28:24,772 --> 01:28:28,532
Speaker 2: get the uniform secondhand, right, that's kids prefer that. You

1910
01:28:28,532 --> 01:28:29,892
Speaker 2: don't want to be turning up to school with the

1911
01:28:29,933 --> 01:28:32,333
Speaker 2: brand new band spanking new uniform.

1912
01:28:32,412 --> 01:28:34,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how you get picked on. So if everything's

1913
01:28:34,532 --> 01:28:35,052
Speaker 3: too shiny.

1914
01:28:35,572 --> 01:28:38,213
Speaker 2: So is it hard to get the uniform's second hand?

1915
01:28:38,572 --> 01:28:40,452
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty If you've found

1916
01:28:40,452 --> 01:28:42,333
Speaker 3: it difficult to get the second hand stuff, I mean, if.

1917
01:28:42,293 --> 01:28:45,372
Speaker 2: You can't afford the uniform, then surely you can get

1918
01:28:45,412 --> 01:28:48,293
Speaker 2: hold of them. I mean, and what are school's doing

1919
01:28:48,293 --> 01:28:50,173
Speaker 2: with the lost property? They just are they handing it

1920
01:28:50,173 --> 01:28:52,213
Speaker 2: out to people that can't afford uniforms for their kids?

1921
01:28:52,253 --> 01:28:52,333
Speaker 27: Well?

1922
01:28:52,372 --> 01:28:54,492
Speaker 3: How often do they update the uniform? I imagine most

1923
01:28:54,492 --> 01:28:58,333
Speaker 3: schools keep it pretty standard for you know, a long time.

1924
01:28:58,492 --> 01:29:00,933
Speaker 3: They design the initial uniform then keep that running for

1925
01:29:00,973 --> 01:29:01,612
Speaker 3: a good couple of day.

1926
01:29:01,652 --> 01:29:04,532
Speaker 2: It's not a high fashion summer line that they related

1927
01:29:04,612 --> 01:29:07,412
Speaker 2: with this every year. This is this is this year's

1928
01:29:07,452 --> 01:29:08,333
Speaker 2: line of school uniform.

1929
01:29:08,412 --> 01:29:10,732
Speaker 3: Here's the winter range. Yeah, O eight one hundred eighty

1930
01:29:10,772 --> 01:29:12,412
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call? Nine to two

1931
01:29:12,612 --> 01:29:16,053
Speaker 3: nine two? Would it not makes sense though? If so

1932
01:29:16,213 --> 01:29:18,173
Speaker 3: many families are struggling out there, And we'll find out

1933
01:29:18,213 --> 01:29:19,133
Speaker 3: whether that's the case or not.

1934
01:29:19,253 --> 01:29:23,653
Speaker 2: Guys, my boys go to Westlake. That place excludes the shoes.

1935
01:29:23,412 --> 01:29:25,692
Speaker 3: Right, so another probably hundi bucks on over there.

1936
01:29:25,772 --> 01:29:29,372
Speaker 2: Westlake's a public school. It's not some kind of fancy

1937
01:29:29,452 --> 01:29:31,812
Speaker 2: ass private school where everyone's got a lot of money.

1938
01:29:31,933 --> 01:29:32,093
Speaker 25: Ex.

1939
01:29:32,732 --> 01:29:33,173
Speaker 2: West Lake.

1940
01:29:33,452 --> 01:29:34,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of money.

1941
01:29:34,772 --> 01:29:36,932
Speaker 2: So you think that there should just be one standard

1942
01:29:36,933 --> 01:29:40,852
Speaker 2: government issued uniform that goes across all the public schools

1943
01:29:40,893 --> 01:29:42,892
Speaker 2: in the country. They're all exactly the same.

1944
01:29:43,053 --> 01:29:45,532
Speaker 3: Yep, why not and mass produced.

1945
01:29:45,772 --> 01:29:50,293
Speaker 2: Full of microplastics. Just the cheapest slave labor produced uniforms

1946
01:29:50,293 --> 01:29:53,492
Speaker 2: you possibly can Yep. So everything is one hundred and

1947
01:29:53,492 --> 01:29:53,932
Speaker 2: fifty bucks.

1948
01:29:54,293 --> 01:29:54,732
Speaker 27: Are ye?

1949
01:29:54,973 --> 01:29:57,053
Speaker 3: All the students in a uniform school, they all look

1950
01:29:57,093 --> 01:29:59,053
Speaker 3: the same as the same uniforms. And then at the

1951
01:29:59,133 --> 01:30:01,852
Speaker 3: end of the year, everybody gets bags of the second

1952
01:30:01,853 --> 01:30:04,053
Speaker 3: hand clothes. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

1953
01:30:04,093 --> 01:30:04,492
Speaker 3: number to go.

1954
01:30:04,692 --> 01:30:06,772
Speaker 2: Wow, this blows my mind. I meant for a kid.

1955
01:30:07,013 --> 01:30:09,412
Speaker 2: Him and his sister go to Evan College year eleven

1956
01:30:09,452 --> 01:30:11,812
Speaker 2: and thirteen. They recently had to get new uniforms as

1957
01:30:11,893 --> 01:30:14,812
Speaker 2: in a different year, close to one thousand dollars for

1958
01:30:15,013 --> 01:30:17,572
Speaker 2: both of them. Don't think that included shoes. As his

1959
01:30:17,612 --> 01:30:19,932
Speaker 2: family doesn't work. The parents had to get some extra

1960
01:30:19,973 --> 01:30:21,932
Speaker 2: money from one of the grandparents. I was surprised how

1961
01:30:21,973 --> 01:30:27,012
Speaker 2: expensive that scene. Yeah, thousand bucks, because you'd back yourself

1962
01:30:27,173 --> 01:30:30,052
Speaker 2: I mean uniforms have to be made of rugged stuff though, right,

1963
01:30:30,293 --> 01:30:32,133
Speaker 2: because they have to be able to go through the

1964
01:30:32,293 --> 01:30:36,612
Speaker 2: washing machine and dry just repeatedly and last a whole.

1965
01:30:36,412 --> 01:30:37,852
Speaker 3: Year pretty much, they get filthy.

1966
01:30:37,973 --> 01:30:40,293
Speaker 2: Yes, So that's why when you when you start school,

1967
01:30:40,293 --> 01:30:42,612
Speaker 2: you're given the world's biggest pair of shorts. You walk

1968
01:30:42,652 --> 01:30:46,612
Speaker 2: around like Mickey Mouse getting called a turd former, pull

1969
01:30:46,652 --> 01:30:49,053
Speaker 2: your socks on, and you finally grow into them. And

1970
01:30:49,973 --> 01:30:53,093
Speaker 2: they had those shorts have to last that long, so

1971
01:30:53,093 --> 01:30:54,293
Speaker 2: they have to be they have to be made out

1972
01:30:54,333 --> 01:30:56,412
Speaker 2: of good stuff, you know they do. It would be

1973
01:30:56,412 --> 01:30:59,293
Speaker 2: a false economy if they were selling cheap school uniforms

1974
01:30:59,333 --> 01:31:02,092
Speaker 2: that fell to pieces like your average piece of clothing

1975
01:31:02,093 --> 01:31:03,052
Speaker 2: that you buy these days.

1976
01:31:03,133 --> 01:31:04,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really can you hear from you on this?

1977
01:31:04,853 --> 01:31:06,053
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty.

1978
01:31:06,133 --> 01:31:08,492
Speaker 2: The six is so fight well all right as five

1979
01:31:08,572 --> 01:31:10,492
Speaker 2: hundred dollars each that last tex so or so?

1980
01:31:10,652 --> 01:31:10,772
Speaker 5: Is it?

1981
01:31:11,173 --> 01:31:11,693
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1982
01:31:11,492 --> 01:31:12,532
Speaker 3: Okay? For two kids?

1983
01:31:12,572 --> 01:31:15,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, ye're eleven close to one thousand for both of them. Yeah,

1984
01:31:15,372 --> 01:31:17,532
Speaker 2: not individually, yes, so five hundred each, but still five

1985
01:31:17,612 --> 01:31:18,772
Speaker 2: hundred gees a lot of money.

1986
01:31:18,772 --> 01:31:20,972
Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

1987
01:31:21,053 --> 01:31:23,372
Speaker 3: Do you think the school uniforms are too expensive. Doesn't

1988
01:31:23,372 --> 01:31:26,452
Speaker 3: make sense to just standardize have one school uniform that

1989
01:31:26,492 --> 01:31:28,893
Speaker 3: each of the school uses, so there's more secondhand to

1990
01:31:28,933 --> 01:31:30,213
Speaker 3: go around. Love your thoughts on the.

1991
01:31:30,333 --> 01:31:32,812
Speaker 2: School ties at the school? Forty five bucks?

1992
01:31:32,893 --> 01:31:33,492
Speaker 3: Rap off?

1993
01:31:33,933 --> 01:31:34,293
Speaker 9: Rip off?

1994
01:31:35,572 --> 01:31:37,293
Speaker 3: How much does it cost to make a tie? Surely

1995
01:31:37,333 --> 01:31:38,133
Speaker 3: not forty five bucks?

1996
01:31:38,173 --> 01:31:38,572
Speaker 11: Back soon.

1997
01:31:42,452 --> 01:31:45,852
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred

1998
01:31:45,933 --> 01:31:47,932
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk said.

1999
01:31:48,213 --> 01:31:49,572
Speaker 3: Twenty seven past three.

2000
01:31:49,732 --> 01:31:52,013
Speaker 2: I thought that you were planned with stupid Tyler and

2001
01:31:52,013 --> 01:31:53,612
Speaker 2: that you're an idiot for saying it, But it turns

2002
01:31:53,612 --> 01:31:56,052
Speaker 2: out I'm the idiot when you said that they should

2003
01:31:56,053 --> 01:31:58,013
Speaker 2: all have the same uniforms. This text has said that

2004
01:31:58,053 --> 01:31:59,932
Speaker 2: in the UK they all have the same uniforms. They

2005
01:31:59,973 --> 01:32:01,293
Speaker 2: just changed the badge on the front.

2006
01:32:01,372 --> 01:32:01,572
Speaker 23: Yep.

2007
01:32:02,173 --> 01:32:04,333
Speaker 2: I mean that's that would solve the problem, right, Yeah,

2008
01:32:04,372 --> 01:32:06,612
Speaker 2: you just have a big badge yep. Maybe, And so

2009
01:32:07,173 --> 01:32:11,093
Speaker 2: the country mass produces all the mass orders the uniforms,

2010
01:32:11,572 --> 01:32:14,932
Speaker 2: mates them much cheaper yep. And just will you get

2011
01:32:14,973 --> 01:32:16,412
Speaker 2: us the badge easy? Yeah?

2012
01:32:16,492 --> 01:32:18,652
Speaker 3: So I told you it's not about follow the UK.

2013
01:32:18,692 --> 01:32:20,772
Speaker 3: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to.

2014
01:32:20,853 --> 01:32:24,013
Speaker 2: Call Matt him up at those poor people of Takapuna

2015
01:32:24,093 --> 01:32:26,412
Speaker 2: unable to afford the whist late uniforms. You realize that

2016
01:32:26,412 --> 01:32:29,172
Speaker 2: the average house price is two million, So you're saying

2017
01:32:29,253 --> 01:32:33,613
Speaker 2: that texture you're saying that the cost of the uniform

2018
01:32:33,692 --> 01:32:37,012
Speaker 2: should be tied to the house price in the area.

2019
01:32:37,173 --> 01:32:37,813
Speaker 3: Controversial.

2020
01:32:37,933 --> 01:32:40,932
Speaker 2: So if the house price is only five hundred thousand

2021
01:32:40,933 --> 01:32:43,012
Speaker 2: dollars in the area, then the uniform is a quarter

2022
01:32:43,053 --> 01:32:45,333
Speaker 2: of the price that it is at Takapuna. That doesn't

2023
01:32:45,333 --> 01:32:48,732
Speaker 2: seem I think if it's a public school, then you know,

2024
01:32:48,772 --> 01:32:50,732
Speaker 2: we're the house. What the house prices around there is

2025
01:32:50,772 --> 01:32:51,692
Speaker 2: kind of irrelevant, right.

2026
01:32:51,652 --> 01:32:54,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting thought though, Cameron, thank you very much. Get

2027
01:32:54,732 --> 01:32:55,213
Speaker 3: a mac.

2028
01:32:56,853 --> 01:33:01,973
Speaker 5: Hi. Matt and Tyler. My son started high school yesterday.

2029
01:33:02,933 --> 01:33:09,053
Speaker 5: And I've spent around about twelve hundred dollars on uniforms

2030
01:33:09,093 --> 01:33:10,812
Speaker 5: and the chromebook.

2031
01:33:11,652 --> 01:33:14,173
Speaker 2: That's that's a lot. That's a lot of money. That's

2032
01:33:14,213 --> 01:33:14,772
Speaker 2: a lot of money.

2033
01:33:15,053 --> 01:33:18,532
Speaker 5: And we're we're on a real tight budget. We're living

2034
01:33:20,173 --> 01:33:24,253
Speaker 5: week to week almost and you know, had to had

2035
01:33:24,253 --> 01:33:29,052
Speaker 5: to find twelve hundred dollars. The blazer. It's a good school.

2036
01:33:30,133 --> 01:33:34,012
Speaker 5: The Blazer was one hundred and eighty nine dollars short

2037
01:33:34,013 --> 01:33:37,213
Speaker 5: sleeve shirts. I think we're about forty four dollars each.

2038
01:33:38,412 --> 01:33:45,173
Speaker 5: Shorts were about sixty long pants about eighty something, and

2039
01:33:45,213 --> 01:33:48,253
Speaker 5: then three hundred and eighty five for the chromebook and

2040
01:33:48,372 --> 01:33:50,652
Speaker 5: about one hundred dollars worth of stationary on top of that.

2041
01:33:51,652 --> 01:33:54,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that that that is a lot of money.

2042
01:33:54,253 --> 01:33:57,892
Speaker 2: Did you look into, you know, options of you know

2043
01:33:58,013 --> 01:34:01,612
Speaker 2: at the school, you know, the second hand options around

2044
01:34:01,612 --> 01:34:02,173
Speaker 2: the uniform that.

2045
01:34:02,213 --> 01:34:07,692
Speaker 5: All met, didn't didn't see anything often in that in

2046
01:34:07,692 --> 01:34:10,812
Speaker 5: that way, I could have gone on Facebook or something,

2047
01:34:10,853 --> 01:34:13,333
Speaker 5: but sort of special. I wanted my Sonday have a

2048
01:34:13,372 --> 01:34:19,692
Speaker 5: brand new uniforms though you know, it's I mean it's

2049
01:34:19,732 --> 01:34:20,293
Speaker 5: pretty tough.

2050
01:34:20,853 --> 01:34:23,293
Speaker 2: That's a whole new thing, well not new, but new

2051
01:34:23,372 --> 01:34:25,213
Speaker 2: compared to when I was at school. That having to

2052
01:34:25,253 --> 01:34:28,173
Speaker 2: buy the chrome box as well, because they just I mean,

2053
01:34:28,173 --> 01:34:31,492
Speaker 2: they can't do their work without it. There are there

2054
01:34:31,492 --> 01:34:33,652
Speaker 2: are people that are trying to get those those into

2055
01:34:33,692 --> 01:34:36,812
Speaker 2: schools and helping people out and reconditioning the chromebox and

2056
01:34:36,853 --> 01:34:39,933
Speaker 2: reconditioning laptops such that they're a bit cheaper. But I

2057
01:34:39,933 --> 01:34:41,732
Speaker 2: mean that that's a lot of money. And you haven't

2058
01:34:41,732 --> 01:34:45,732
Speaker 2: even mentioned the shoes. Yet mac shoes on top of that.

2059
01:34:45,772 --> 01:34:50,253
Speaker 5: Fully, thankfully, they've only got to be black shoes, and

2060
01:34:50,293 --> 01:34:54,732
Speaker 5: they can be black sports shoes. And he's got some

2061
01:34:54,772 --> 01:34:57,013
Speaker 5: black sports shoes that didn't have to spend another one

2062
01:34:57,093 --> 01:35:00,293
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty something dollars on some nice leather shoes.

2063
01:35:00,572 --> 01:35:03,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the thing, you know, and people do

2064
01:35:03,333 --> 01:35:05,492
Speaker 2: you know I've been saying, you know, there's there is

2065
01:35:06,053 --> 01:35:09,133
Speaker 2: you know, cheaper option secondhand and stuff. But you right, Mack,

2066
01:35:09,173 --> 01:35:10,812
Speaker 2: you're a good dad and you want them to go

2067
01:35:10,853 --> 01:35:13,093
Speaker 2: to school and start high school because that's a big

2068
01:35:13,133 --> 01:35:15,652
Speaker 2: emotional moment for as a parent, isn't it. You're sending

2069
01:35:15,692 --> 01:35:17,572
Speaker 2: them off to high school. You're a bit worried about them.

2070
01:35:17,772 --> 01:35:20,093
Speaker 2: It's a whole new world. So you want to set

2071
01:35:20,093 --> 01:35:24,052
Speaker 2: them up the best you possibly can, and so you're

2072
01:35:24,532 --> 01:35:26,812
Speaker 2: you know, feeling like you're going to do it a

2073
01:35:26,853 --> 01:35:30,372
Speaker 2: different way, not get them the exact stuff that that

2074
01:35:30,452 --> 01:35:31,412
Speaker 2: everyone else is getting.

2075
01:35:31,412 --> 01:35:31,452
Speaker 5: It.

2076
01:35:31,572 --> 01:35:34,653
Speaker 2: It's a difficult for a parent at that stage emotionally.

2077
01:35:37,372 --> 01:35:41,133
Speaker 5: And you know, the short sleeve shirts or part of

2078
01:35:41,133 --> 01:35:44,093
Speaker 5: what makes the uniforms so expensive. Okay, the blazer is

2079
01:35:44,093 --> 01:35:47,853
Speaker 5: always going to be expensive, but the shorts and trousers

2080
01:35:47,853 --> 01:35:51,892
Speaker 5: they've all got the school logo on them, yea. And

2081
01:35:51,933 --> 01:35:58,372
Speaker 5: the shirts they've all got all the school logo, yes, yep.

2082
01:35:58,293 --> 01:36:00,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I can get the identity side of things. Absolutely,

2083
01:36:01,013 --> 01:36:03,532
Speaker 3: you can't just have a stick standard for all schools.

2084
01:36:03,612 --> 01:36:05,293
Speaker 3: You've got to have some sort of you know, something

2085
01:36:05,372 --> 01:36:06,893
Speaker 3: on it to say I got a west Lake or

2086
01:36:06,933 --> 01:36:09,293
Speaker 3: I got to Nelson College. But the badge idea or

2087
01:36:09,293 --> 01:36:10,932
Speaker 3: a bit of how much does that cost?

2088
01:36:11,013 --> 01:36:13,053
Speaker 2: So you know, a uniform for a school could be

2089
01:36:13,093 --> 01:36:16,213
Speaker 2: like it's a gray polo and you'd stick the badge

2090
01:36:16,253 --> 01:36:19,613
Speaker 2: on it, yep. And then when that gray polo disintegratees

2091
01:36:19,612 --> 01:36:21,412
Speaker 2: because it was cheaper, you take the badge off and

2092
01:36:21,412 --> 01:36:22,253
Speaker 2: put it on another one.

2093
01:36:22,333 --> 01:36:22,572
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2094
01:36:22,692 --> 01:36:25,293
Speaker 2: Perfect, Yeah, I mean that that would be a way

2095
01:36:25,293 --> 01:36:27,973
Speaker 2: to keep things down because yeah, the other thing is

2096
01:36:28,372 --> 01:36:31,772
Speaker 2: if the uniforms costing that much, you and you just

2097
01:36:31,812 --> 01:36:34,452
Speaker 2: don't want your kid to be different from the other

2098
01:36:34,532 --> 01:36:37,652
Speaker 2: kids when they start, so you know, make it as

2099
01:36:37,652 --> 01:36:40,293
Speaker 2: simple as possible. It's just the badges get the school

2100
01:36:40,333 --> 01:36:44,452
Speaker 2: provides the badges, You provide the uniform that fits the rundown.

2101
01:36:44,612 --> 01:36:47,572
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, thank you for your call, Mack.

2102
01:36:47,612 --> 01:36:49,932
Speaker 2: You sound like a great dad though. All the best

2103
01:36:50,013 --> 01:36:52,692
Speaker 2: your son at school, so you mac oh, wait, one

2104
01:36:52,732 --> 01:36:54,812
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number. Course, there

2105
01:36:54,973 --> 01:36:57,812
Speaker 2: anything more terrifying in life than I mean, there's so

2106
01:36:57,853 --> 01:37:01,612
Speaker 2: many more things terrifying in life, like burning rats, running

2107
01:37:01,652 --> 01:37:04,293
Speaker 2: out of an awful pit, poor John. Yeah, going back

2108
01:37:04,333 --> 01:37:07,972
Speaker 2: to the last hour. But that day when your kid starts,

2109
01:37:08,013 --> 01:37:11,772
Speaker 2: you know, you little kids starts high school because all

2110
01:37:11,772 --> 01:37:13,732
Speaker 2: of it's scary. The first day to start primary school,

2111
01:37:13,732 --> 01:37:15,852
Speaker 2: that's quite scary because they're out of the house and

2112
01:37:16,692 --> 01:37:17,812
Speaker 2: you know, you think about all the other kids and

2113
01:37:17,812 --> 01:37:19,572
Speaker 2: they've got to find their way. And then intermediate it's

2114
01:37:19,612 --> 01:37:22,333
Speaker 2: a little bit scary. But when they're going to high school,

2115
01:37:22,412 --> 01:37:26,532
Speaker 2: especially a really big high school, you're so anxious as

2116
01:37:26,532 --> 01:37:29,532
Speaker 2: a parent how they're going to get on. You know,

2117
01:37:29,572 --> 01:37:32,132
Speaker 2: they're moving forward in life. They're going to a school

2118
01:37:32,133 --> 01:37:35,892
Speaker 2: where you know, the year thirteen's look like fully grown men.

2119
01:37:36,492 --> 01:37:37,333
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2120
01:37:37,093 --> 01:37:41,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's quite it's quite something. And so you know,

2121
01:37:41,812 --> 01:37:43,412
Speaker 2: I totally get that thing that you want to send

2122
01:37:43,412 --> 01:37:47,053
Speaker 2: them to school with everything that they can that they

2123
01:37:47,093 --> 01:37:49,852
Speaker 2: need to succeed or feel confident to succeed at that

2124
01:37:49,933 --> 01:37:51,253
Speaker 2: school and feel like they fit in.

2125
01:37:51,372 --> 01:37:53,612
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Nine two ninety two is the text.

2126
01:37:54,093 --> 01:37:55,892
Speaker 3: We've got the headlines coming up, but we're taking more

2127
01:37:55,893 --> 01:37:58,012
Speaker 3: of your calls. How much you spending on the school

2128
01:37:58,093 --> 01:38:00,293
Speaker 3: uniform and is there a way to make it cheaper?

2129
01:38:00,452 --> 01:38:01,612
Speaker 3: It is twenty seven to.

2130
01:38:01,652 --> 01:38:07,652
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2134
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2135
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2136
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2140
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2141
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2142
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2145
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2146
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2147
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2148
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2149
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2151
01:39:18,812 --> 01:39:20,572
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2152
01:39:20,173 --> 01:39:22,372
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Railean. We're talking about the cost

2153
01:39:22,412 --> 01:39:25,173
Speaker 3: of school uniforms. Is it that crazy out there? We've

2154
01:39:25,213 --> 01:39:27,253
Speaker 3: seen a few headlines and the cost is ridiculous.

2155
01:39:27,692 --> 01:39:30,093
Speaker 2: This text says my boys school went from white polo

2156
01:39:30,173 --> 01:39:32,932
Speaker 2: shirts which cost nine dollars see white polo shirt seems

2157
01:39:32,933 --> 01:39:35,612
Speaker 2: to be a classic for a school that costs nine

2158
01:39:35,652 --> 01:39:38,253
Speaker 2: dollars to white polo shirts with a logo, which costs

2159
01:39:38,253 --> 01:39:41,333
Speaker 2: thirty six dollars. Ridiculous, especially for larger families. A result

2160
01:39:41,412 --> 01:39:44,253
Speaker 2: was the kids all started looking grubby as parents wouldn't

2161
01:39:44,253 --> 01:39:47,412
Speaker 2: buy a new ones as often standard everything except maybe

2162
01:39:47,412 --> 01:39:49,732
Speaker 2: a cap with a logo on it. My friends and

2163
01:39:49,772 --> 01:39:52,732
Speaker 2: I we had this competition going where we would never

2164
01:39:53,013 --> 01:39:55,572
Speaker 2: wash our school uniform for as long as you get

2165
01:39:55,612 --> 01:39:57,412
Speaker 2: away for it before your mum would finally get it

2166
01:39:57,452 --> 01:39:59,173
Speaker 2: off you. So you try and hide it and try

2167
01:39:59,213 --> 01:40:01,372
Speaker 2: and be as stinky as you can. Me and my

2168
01:40:01,412 --> 01:40:05,772
Speaker 2: mate Luke Parker. We am my mate Carl Hesen. We

2169
01:40:05,933 --> 01:40:07,852
Speaker 2: just tried to be as stinky as we go.

2170
01:40:08,412 --> 01:40:09,012
Speaker 3: Long do you reckon?

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01:40:09,053 --> 01:40:11,532
Speaker 2: You went for a good weekend? At least I reckon

2172
01:40:11,933 --> 01:40:15,652
Speaker 2: because I actually had two uniforms, so one of them

2173
01:40:15,692 --> 01:40:17,532
Speaker 2: was getting washed, yeah, but I was hiding the other

2174
01:40:17,572 --> 01:40:19,253
Speaker 2: one under my bed. So every day I'd put a

2175
01:40:19,253 --> 01:40:21,333
Speaker 2: disgusting one on and I'd get in the back seat

2176
01:40:21,372 --> 01:40:24,133
Speaker 2: on the way to school because they had to drive

2177
01:40:24,652 --> 01:40:26,852
Speaker 2: quite a way to get to school, and my dad

2178
01:40:26,853 --> 01:40:30,093
Speaker 2: would be like, oh, jeez, you stink. Have a shower, boy,

2179
01:40:30,133 --> 01:40:31,612
Speaker 2: you stink me with you honestly.

2180
01:40:33,732 --> 01:40:36,492
Speaker 3: Anyway, Oh, one hundred eighty eighties loving a cool Peter.

2181
01:40:36,612 --> 01:40:37,133
Speaker 3: How are you?

2182
01:40:37,973 --> 01:40:38,772
Speaker 11: Are you good? Guys?

2183
01:40:39,013 --> 01:40:39,213
Speaker 22: Else?

2184
01:40:39,372 --> 01:40:40,933
Speaker 3: You're very good. So what are you reckon about the

2185
01:40:40,933 --> 01:40:41,732
Speaker 3: cost of uniforms?

2186
01:40:42,452 --> 01:40:42,572
Speaker 2: Uh?

2187
01:40:43,053 --> 01:40:47,093
Speaker 29: It's always been a pretty expensive getting kids. I mean

2188
01:40:47,213 --> 01:40:49,093
Speaker 29: when I was when I was gonna obviously I wasn't

2189
01:40:49,133 --> 01:40:52,412
Speaker 29: paid for it. My parents were, but are but too

2190
01:40:52,492 --> 01:40:53,372
Speaker 29: tight for my liking.

2191
01:40:53,452 --> 01:40:55,692
Speaker 20: But you know, for a.

2192
01:40:55,612 --> 01:40:57,932
Speaker 29: Black pair of shoes, it had the tricks and swayed,

2193
01:40:58,053 --> 01:41:01,372
Speaker 29: you know, the Swede things, real cool shoes, and of

2194
01:41:01,412 --> 01:41:03,053
Speaker 29: course I was one of the un cool kids. And

2195
01:41:03,853 --> 01:41:06,012
Speaker 29: one day my mum found in the opshop a dollar

2196
01:41:06,093 --> 01:41:08,093
Speaker 29: for a pair of white shoes and died in black

2197
01:41:08,133 --> 01:41:14,612
Speaker 29: and the blue. And I remember having one pair of

2198
01:41:14,652 --> 01:41:17,293
Speaker 29: socks and tees. By Thursday, Frida putting on a pair

2199
01:41:17,333 --> 01:41:20,133
Speaker 29: of a pair of cardboarders, stuffing up so much.

2200
01:41:20,812 --> 01:41:23,933
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, those school socks, man, like I don't know,

2201
01:41:24,013 --> 01:41:26,652
Speaker 3: Nelson College. They were awful socks which I don't know

2202
01:41:26,652 --> 01:41:29,572
Speaker 3: what they were made of, super scratchy, they just picked

2203
01:41:29,652 --> 01:41:32,932
Speaker 3: up every foot odor you could imagine, and sitting in it,

2204
01:41:33,013 --> 01:41:35,412
Speaker 3: you know, sitting in a classroom with forty other kids

2205
01:41:35,452 --> 01:41:38,052
Speaker 3: with all of the same socks, and it's just a smell,

2206
01:41:38,293 --> 01:41:38,612
Speaker 3: was all.

2207
01:41:38,612 --> 01:41:40,452
Speaker 2: You've got a bunch of six year old boys wondering

2208
01:41:40,452 --> 01:41:43,293
Speaker 2: why they can't get a girlfriend and it. Meanwhile, they've

2209
01:41:43,293 --> 01:41:45,892
Speaker 2: got the socks and made a cardboarder.

2210
01:41:47,973 --> 01:41:48,213
Speaker 11: Girl.

2211
01:41:48,492 --> 01:41:50,812
Speaker 29: The girls had a roamer of aromas of their own

2212
01:41:50,853 --> 01:41:51,173
Speaker 29: as well.

2213
01:41:51,372 --> 01:41:51,532
Speaker 10: Well.

2214
01:41:51,532 --> 01:41:55,053
Speaker 2: I'll tell you nothing that Links Africa can't solve, and

2215
01:41:55,133 --> 01:41:58,493
Speaker 2: so everything for both coverall.

2216
01:41:58,572 --> 01:42:02,692
Speaker 3: Peter, cheers, Peter, Vicky. How are you hi?

2217
01:42:03,253 --> 01:42:03,412
Speaker 8: Hi?

2218
01:42:03,612 --> 01:42:03,812
Speaker 5: Good?

2219
01:42:03,893 --> 01:42:04,812
Speaker 10: How are you You're good?

2220
01:42:05,452 --> 01:42:05,692
Speaker 11: Yeah?

2221
01:42:05,853 --> 01:42:08,773
Speaker 17: My take on this, Like I'm a bit older, but

2222
01:42:08,812 --> 01:42:10,973
Speaker 17: when we went to we lived in the country and

2223
01:42:11,013 --> 01:42:13,572
Speaker 17: we'd sort of changed schools, you know, quite a bit.

2224
01:42:14,173 --> 01:42:17,333
Speaker 17: But they had it, like you're talking about the standard

2225
01:42:17,452 --> 01:42:18,933
Speaker 17: uniform and the US to have this thing called a

2226
01:42:19,013 --> 01:42:21,372
Speaker 17: jim dress. So don't you guys might know it because

2227
01:42:21,372 --> 01:42:24,333
Speaker 17: you're a bit younger a dress. Yeah, it was called

2228
01:42:24,333 --> 01:42:26,732
Speaker 17: a gym dress. And it was like it was a

2229
01:42:26,772 --> 01:42:29,452
Speaker 17: tunic thing that you put over like a lot of

2230
01:42:29,492 --> 01:42:33,173
Speaker 17: schools wore them. It was like no sleeves and it

2231
01:42:33,253 --> 01:42:35,333
Speaker 17: had three pleats at the front. There would have been

2232
01:42:35,812 --> 01:42:36,612
Speaker 17: it would have been.

2233
01:42:36,772 --> 01:42:39,692
Speaker 2: Like like the like a nitty shirt, like a like

2234
01:42:39,732 --> 01:42:43,772
Speaker 2: a you know, like players were kind of thing.

2235
01:42:44,053 --> 01:42:46,933
Speaker 17: Well you saw it, yes, I guess it was like that.

2236
01:42:47,053 --> 01:42:48,933
Speaker 17: But you and you wore this as a uniform and

2237
01:42:49,013 --> 01:42:51,492
Speaker 17: underneath was like a white flowers usually this is a

2238
01:42:51,572 --> 01:42:54,852
Speaker 17: winter uniform. And they'd have like a different cardigan that

2239
01:42:54,933 --> 01:42:57,333
Speaker 17: would be I can remember wearing it for the carry

2240
01:42:57,372 --> 01:43:01,093
Speaker 17: intermediate and we'd red cardigans, and you know, that's the

2241
01:43:01,093 --> 01:43:02,532
Speaker 17: one way of getting around it. You'd have like a

2242
01:43:02,532 --> 01:43:06,093
Speaker 17: base one like that you could put everything around it.

2243
01:43:06,412 --> 01:43:08,293
Speaker 17: And there's someones I think mamasode them all.

2244
01:43:10,053 --> 01:43:10,852
Speaker 2: She sewed them all.

2245
01:43:11,532 --> 01:43:13,412
Speaker 17: Well, she would say we had there was five girls

2246
01:43:13,452 --> 01:43:15,492
Speaker 17: in our families could find a uniform and put.

2247
01:43:15,372 --> 01:43:15,892
Speaker 10: It on, you know.

2248
01:43:16,133 --> 01:43:19,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, wow if you're going to that school at

2249
01:43:19,412 --> 01:43:20,972
Speaker 3: that time, well.

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01:43:20,933 --> 01:43:22,692
Speaker 2: Just if you like look around the house, so you

2251
01:43:22,732 --> 01:43:23,732
Speaker 2: found a uniform and put.

2252
01:43:23,652 --> 01:43:25,612
Speaker 17: It on to go, there was a clothes basket you

2253
01:43:25,692 --> 01:43:28,092
Speaker 17: dug around. But like mum did a lot of sewing,

2254
01:43:28,253 --> 01:43:31,173
Speaker 17: you know, so she made all our dresses. Like I'm

2255
01:43:31,213 --> 01:43:35,972
Speaker 17: older obviously, but nowadays it is extencsive because I've seen

2256
01:43:36,053 --> 01:43:38,852
Speaker 17: my granddaughters, you know what, they have to buy it

2257
01:43:38,853 --> 01:43:42,372
Speaker 17: to her and like the doc Martins came with that,

2258
01:43:42,652 --> 01:43:45,492
Speaker 17: you know, that was three hundred and sixty dollars or something.

2259
01:43:45,772 --> 01:43:47,732
Speaker 17: I didn't buy them, but obviously, you know.

2260
01:43:48,213 --> 01:43:49,293
Speaker 24: Yeah, so I think.

2261
01:43:49,133 --> 01:43:53,533
Speaker 17: They are I think it's I think it's way too offensive.

2262
01:43:53,812 --> 01:43:55,772
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well I'm at the dock Martins are at

2263
01:43:55,812 --> 01:43:59,093
Speaker 2: the more expensive end of the Yeah. The yeah, the

2264
01:43:59,692 --> 01:44:00,572
Speaker 2: sh shoe thing.

2265
01:44:00,532 --> 01:44:02,333
Speaker 3: They were a bit of a wrought, the old dock Martins.

2266
01:44:02,372 --> 01:44:03,932
Speaker 2: When I was at school, I went to a co

2267
01:44:04,093 --> 01:44:09,213
Speaker 2: ed school Bogan Park, Yep. It was school and the

2268
01:44:09,213 --> 01:44:13,333
Speaker 2: girls had well clts, yes, and then the girls would

2269
01:44:13,412 --> 01:44:15,852
Speaker 2: roll the clts up so they were as high as

2270
01:44:15,893 --> 01:44:17,812
Speaker 2: they possibly be, and then it would look like they

2271
01:44:17,853 --> 01:44:21,133
Speaker 2: had like a doorstopper around their middle because the celts

2272
01:44:21,173 --> 01:44:22,333
Speaker 2: would be rolled up so much.

2273
01:44:22,333 --> 01:44:23,612
Speaker 3: What did they roll it up? Because they thought it

2274
01:44:23,612 --> 01:44:25,012
Speaker 3: looked cooler to get a bit of a mini skirt

2275
01:44:25,013 --> 01:44:25,253
Speaker 3: going on.

2276
01:44:25,253 --> 01:44:27,133
Speaker 2: They wanted to run a short skirt. Yeah, and the

2277
01:44:27,173 --> 01:44:29,732
Speaker 2: celts went so low, like the celts went right down

2278
01:44:29,732 --> 01:44:32,532
Speaker 2: to your ankles, and so the girls at the school

2279
01:44:32,572 --> 01:44:34,293
Speaker 2: wanted to wear them so they were, you know, well

2280
01:44:34,293 --> 01:44:36,852
Speaker 2: above their knees. So they're running around like a big

2281
01:44:37,253 --> 01:44:38,612
Speaker 2: just big sausage around the middle.

2282
01:44:39,253 --> 01:44:42,333
Speaker 3: Great look nine two is the text. We will be

2283
01:44:42,372 --> 01:44:44,692
Speaker 3: back very shortly. We are talking about the cost of

2284
01:44:44,772 --> 01:44:46,892
Speaker 3: school uniforms. Keen to hear from you. How much are

2285
01:44:46,933 --> 01:44:49,452
Speaker 3: you paying for your kid's school uniform? It is eighteen

2286
01:44:49,492 --> 01:44:49,772
Speaker 3: to four.

2287
01:44:50,333 --> 01:44:52,492
Speaker 1: Just to have a chad with Matt and Tyler on

2288
01:44:54,173 --> 01:44:57,492
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tina Adams afternoons with Skoda. Can you

2289
01:44:57,532 --> 01:44:59,732
Speaker 1: crack the scoter code used dogs, they'd.

2290
01:44:59,572 --> 01:45:02,372
Speaker 2: Be quarter to four BJ says sad to hear about

2291
01:45:02,372 --> 01:45:05,612
Speaker 2: school uniforms. But good or normal parents should consider cost

2292
01:45:05,652 --> 01:45:07,652
Speaker 2: before trying to have a child, Nah, blast them out,

2293
01:45:07,652 --> 01:45:09,692
Speaker 2: more children to be Yep, we've got to We've got

2294
01:45:09,692 --> 01:45:16,293
Speaker 2: a population crease, population collapse crisis. Blast them out, get

2295
01:45:16,333 --> 01:45:16,772
Speaker 2: them out there.

2296
01:45:16,973 --> 01:45:21,532
Speaker 3: When babies get a yeah, hey did I tell you?

2297
01:45:21,612 --> 01:45:21,812
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2298
01:45:21,853 --> 01:45:22,053
Speaker 10: Good?

2299
01:45:22,572 --> 01:45:23,492
Speaker 2: You're a school principal.

2300
01:45:24,853 --> 01:45:28,572
Speaker 25: Well, now I started to state funded schools METSI involved

2301
01:45:28,572 --> 01:45:30,452
Speaker 25: in starting a propate one at the moment. But one

2302
01:45:30,492 --> 01:45:34,133
Speaker 25: thing every parents should know is that state schools have

2303
01:45:34,412 --> 01:45:39,293
Speaker 25: got the option using their operational funds to fund uniform

2304
01:45:39,333 --> 01:45:42,452
Speaker 25: for every child that goes to that school there right

2305
01:45:42,492 --> 01:45:46,173
Speaker 25: completely completely, Now where that.

2306
01:45:46,173 --> 01:45:47,892
Speaker 2: Where would that money come from? Would it come off

2307
01:45:48,013 --> 01:45:49,612
Speaker 2: other other operational star.

2308
01:45:49,532 --> 01:45:52,213
Speaker 25: Schools get funded for salaries, they get funded for property,

2309
01:45:52,213 --> 01:45:55,093
Speaker 25: and they get funded for operations. Right, So if the

2310
01:45:55,532 --> 01:45:58,093
Speaker 25: if they're saying, hey, look, you know, we need you

2311
01:45:58,133 --> 01:46:01,652
Speaker 25: guys to be in uniform. And I guess you could

2312
01:46:01,652 --> 01:46:04,772
Speaker 25: say this could be particularly in a more challenged area,

2313
01:46:04,973 --> 01:46:10,013
Speaker 25: but that's not necessarily so either. But to fund you know,

2314
01:46:10,053 --> 01:46:14,572
Speaker 25: the socks, the shorts, the shirts, the peer uniform, it

2315
01:46:14,692 --> 01:46:17,253
Speaker 25: doesn't take that much of a percentage of the school's

2316
01:46:17,253 --> 01:46:22,493
Speaker 25: operational funding, but it saves a heap for families, particularly

2317
01:46:22,532 --> 01:46:24,732
Speaker 25: you know, some families might have as you they pop

2318
01:46:24,772 --> 01:46:26,772
Speaker 25: them out as often as you can. They might have

2319
01:46:26,853 --> 01:46:30,412
Speaker 25: five or six kids going to school, and if you're

2320
01:46:30,452 --> 01:46:33,973
Speaker 25: talking let's say four hundreds per student just at this

2321
01:46:34,053 --> 01:46:38,692
Speaker 25: time of year, let alone stationary, littlelone subject fees, littlelone

2322
01:46:38,732 --> 01:46:40,772
Speaker 25: trip fees later in the year, all of that kind

2323
01:46:40,853 --> 01:46:44,692
Speaker 25: of stuff. Then it can smash a family. Around two

2324
01:46:44,692 --> 01:46:49,052
Speaker 25: thousand dollars this week is a lot for many families

2325
01:46:49,093 --> 01:46:50,932
Speaker 25: if they've got multiple kids going to school.

2326
01:46:51,093 --> 01:46:56,852
Speaker 2: But if you've had say a thousand people at the school,

2327
01:46:56,893 --> 01:46:59,293
Speaker 2: and the uniforms cost five hundred bucks, that's five hundred

2328
01:46:59,333 --> 01:47:02,572
Speaker 2: thousand dollars school can a school headle five hundred thousand.

2329
01:47:03,732 --> 01:47:05,612
Speaker 25: That's not what it costs when you go directly to

2330
01:47:05,652 --> 01:47:12,053
Speaker 25: the wholesaler, right reckonend half then probably half of that.

2331
01:47:12,412 --> 01:47:15,772
Speaker 25: And you know schools will often have their own little

2332
01:47:15,812 --> 01:47:18,052
Speaker 25: uniform shop with their margin on top of that as well,

2333
01:47:19,213 --> 01:47:19,572
Speaker 25: so it is.

2334
01:47:19,572 --> 01:47:21,772
Speaker 3: A revenue gatherer for school. Then in that case that

2335
01:47:21,893 --> 01:47:23,972
Speaker 3: if they've got the operational budget there as you say,

2336
01:47:24,013 --> 01:47:27,333
Speaker 3: for uniforms, then if they are charging the uniforms out

2337
01:47:27,572 --> 01:47:30,253
Speaker 3: and more than it costs and make them and clearly

2338
01:47:30,293 --> 01:47:31,693
Speaker 3: pocketing the profit.

2339
01:47:31,612 --> 01:47:33,812
Speaker 2: And would they do that in a sort of an

2340
01:47:33,853 --> 01:47:34,692
Speaker 2: affluent area.

2341
01:47:36,933 --> 01:47:39,293
Speaker 25: I think I think they do it, do that.

2342
01:47:39,253 --> 01:47:42,772
Speaker 2: In every area, right, just get bit more money, and

2343
01:47:43,013 --> 01:47:43,612
Speaker 2: we've got to have a.

2344
01:47:43,532 --> 01:47:46,133
Speaker 25: Look at it and go why do we exist? We

2345
01:47:46,213 --> 01:47:49,253
Speaker 25: exist because we want to provide a great education track.

2346
01:47:49,293 --> 01:47:56,252
Speaker 25: Cads exist because we want to help the family get ahead. Therefore,

2347
01:47:56,333 --> 01:47:58,333
Speaker 25: what can we do it this time of year? Well, hey,

2348
01:47:58,492 --> 01:48:01,213
Speaker 25: we can use a portion of our operational funding. We

2349
01:48:01,253 --> 01:48:03,333
Speaker 25: can fund the uniform that we require. Now you may

2350
01:48:03,412 --> 01:48:05,452
Speaker 25: leave something out like shoes because they're a bit more

2351
01:48:05,492 --> 01:48:10,013
Speaker 25: personal and things like that, and and there are organizations

2352
01:48:10,053 --> 01:48:11,812
Speaker 25: that can help with that a little bit as well

2353
01:48:12,133 --> 01:48:14,293
Speaker 25: when it is really tough. But to do the basic

2354
01:48:14,412 --> 01:48:20,052
Speaker 25: uniform as a smallish proportion of operational and the money

2355
01:48:20,093 --> 01:48:22,412
Speaker 25: that you say for families can make a huge difference.

2356
01:48:22,652 --> 01:48:24,333
Speaker 2: Is there Do you think there's enough done in schools?

2357
01:48:24,333 --> 01:48:27,572
Speaker 2: Because every year there's kids getting too big and there's

2358
01:48:27,612 --> 01:48:31,653
Speaker 2: kids leaving school, right, So are they doing enough to

2359
01:48:31,652 --> 01:48:35,213
Speaker 2: to you know, reprocess those uniforms through each year. But

2360
01:48:35,253 --> 01:48:37,973
Speaker 2: because if it became standard that uniforms were pretty much

2361
01:48:37,973 --> 01:48:40,852
Speaker 2: sick in hand all the time. So there's absolutely no stigma,

2362
01:48:40,893 --> 01:48:43,133
Speaker 2: not that there should be any stigma I know my

2363
01:48:43,612 --> 01:48:45,973
Speaker 2: youngest son has basically been spent a lot of his

2364
01:48:46,013 --> 01:48:47,892
Speaker 2: time in second hand uniforms because he's an older brother

2365
01:48:47,893 --> 01:48:49,852
Speaker 2: and all his older brothers friends uniforms. We just got

2366
01:48:49,812 --> 01:48:51,612
Speaker 2: to have a lunch of uniforms. As I was saying before,

2367
01:48:52,093 --> 01:48:54,013
Speaker 2: But do you think they do enough to go, you know,

2368
01:48:54,692 --> 01:48:58,133
Speaker 2: drop your uniform off, you know, have have the last

2369
01:48:58,253 --> 01:49:00,412
Speaker 2: the last day of the year, like a mufty day

2370
01:49:00,452 --> 01:49:01,892
Speaker 2: on the last day of the year, and you bring

2371
01:49:01,933 --> 01:49:03,892
Speaker 2: your school uniform that's too small for you for the

2372
01:49:03,893 --> 01:49:06,213
Speaker 2: next year or if you're leaving, so it all gets

2373
01:49:06,213 --> 01:49:07,732
Speaker 2: put through the system.

2374
01:49:08,532 --> 01:49:10,093
Speaker 25: If some schools do a really good job with that,

2375
01:49:10,213 --> 01:49:12,053
Speaker 25: I'd still say that they should be passing them on

2376
01:49:12,173 --> 01:49:15,933
Speaker 25: next to free because it's the schools that's putting the

2377
01:49:15,973 --> 01:49:19,852
Speaker 25: requirement there. Look, when I grew up Phillipe, I still

2378
01:49:19,973 --> 01:49:23,932
Speaker 25: laughed at you know, I played some reasonable cricket and

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Speaker 25: but I only had one pair of whites through my

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Speaker 25: whole five years. And I remember the wicket keeper from

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Speaker 25: any collegia saying, why are your pants so tight? And

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Speaker 25: I just felt that I couldn't couldn't tell him there

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Speaker 25: that for five years.

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Speaker 2: Classic wicket keepers, they just so.

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Speaker 25: Lucky as I was one, and I still not turning

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Speaker 25: around into say because I'm big down there, but.

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Speaker 2: Well I stair away with you think about it twenty

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Speaker 2: years later.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, but I just parents should know and they should

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Speaker 25: say to their schools, you know, why are we paying

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Speaker 25: so much for uniforms? Even if you went, hey, you

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01:50:05,572 --> 01:50:08,892
Speaker 25: guys buying wholesale and passed it on to us at wholesale. Yeah,

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Speaker 25: that's progress or what do you mean to be operational funding?

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Speaker 2: What do you think about Tyler's idea that the uniforms

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01:50:16,412 --> 01:50:18,053
Speaker 2: all the same across the country and just put a

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Speaker 2: badge so it's all the same polo across the same country,

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Speaker 2: bulk bought and the only difference between schools is a

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Speaker 2: little badge on the front.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad idea if it was

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Speaker 25: in mals China, But you know, schools do like to

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01:50:34,532 --> 01:50:37,812
Speaker 25: reentrate themselves and you're probably not likely to get there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well thank you for your call, right, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: almost also a communists?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yes, yeah, thank you ellen. Right, beg very shortly

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Speaker 3: it is nine to four taking your calls. Eight hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3: is during the Tour de France, what do the competitors ride?

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Speaker 3: Their clue again, during the Tour de France, what are

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Speaker 2: Peter, We've got about sixteen seconds for your thoughts. I

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Speaker 2: think sixty seconds.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 11: Sorry.

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Speaker 22: I think all school uniforms are weighed made by Whitty

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01:51:32,853 --> 01:51:36,492
Speaker 22: Wheat suits. They just seem to shrink every year, and

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Speaker 22: there needs to be something. There's sad about it because

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Speaker 22: my child is forever is a new new pe uniform

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Speaker 22: because he's trying a different sport, different plays. I don't

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01:51:49,812 --> 01:51:51,852
Speaker 22: like jerseys. Now I need to wear a vet and

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01:51:51,973 --> 01:51:56,173
Speaker 22: it's on and arm, so I just reckon dress them

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01:51:56,173 --> 01:51:57,133
Speaker 22: in near prim.

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Speaker 11: And go for it.

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Speaker 3: Planned obsolescence in the uniforms.

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Speaker 2: Some kind of thing. I know that that they solved

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Speaker 2: a lot of the problem with. Like in the Third World,

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Speaker 2: it was a charity that made shoes that could extend

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Speaker 2: because one of the things is you shoe people, and

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01:52:12,612 --> 01:52:15,053
Speaker 2: then the kid's feet are growing so fast, right, so

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Speaker 2: they made these extendable shoes.

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Speaker 3: Smart, really clever.

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01:52:17,812 --> 01:52:20,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so maybe we need that. Just you buy

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01:52:20,093 --> 01:52:21,932
Speaker 2: one uniform and then it's got just a whole lot

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01:52:21,933 --> 01:52:24,173
Speaker 2: of things to let out. I mean my parents said

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01:52:24,173 --> 01:52:26,053
Speaker 2: that to me by putting sending me to school in

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01:52:26,093 --> 01:52:29,572
Speaker 2: the most stupidly big pair of shorts on my first

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01:52:29,652 --> 01:52:32,173
Speaker 2: day and third form as it was called back then. Yeah,

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01:52:32,213 --> 01:52:33,653
Speaker 2: like just ridiculous.

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01:52:33,812 --> 01:52:35,253
Speaker 3: Say, you're going to get picked on for the first

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Speaker 3: couple of years, but you'll grow into them.

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Speaker 2: You'll grow into them as well, in those massive shorts.

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01:52:40,692 --> 01:52:43,012
Speaker 2: And there's other part of this story that we haven't

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01:52:43,013 --> 01:52:45,452
Speaker 2: got to is you spend all that money whatever twelve

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01:52:45,532 --> 01:52:47,053
Speaker 2: hundred dollars or whatever it is to get your kids

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01:52:47,093 --> 01:52:50,173
Speaker 2: into the uniform, and then they go to school and

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01:52:50,452 --> 01:52:54,612
Speaker 2: they leave their jersey there, yep, and they go they

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01:52:54,732 --> 01:52:57,452
Speaker 2: leave their expensive jacket that you've bought them.

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01:52:57,492 --> 01:53:00,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another three hundred bucks. Yeah, so true.

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01:53:00,572 --> 01:53:03,133
Speaker 2: Nothing makesperience more angry than you have bought this nice

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01:53:03,133 --> 01:53:04,812
Speaker 2: thing and they just don't seem to care about it

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Speaker 2: at all.

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Speaker 3: A great discutch, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 2: It brings us to the end of another edition of

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Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler Afternoons on News Talks and b We'll

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Speaker 2: be back live again from twelve pm with more conversations

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Speaker 2: with people on O E one hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighty and nine to nine two. But Tyler, why am

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Speaker 2: I playing the song?

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01:53:27,133 --> 01:53:29,973
Speaker 3: Great tune? Talking here? It's burning down the house. We

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01:53:30,013 --> 01:53:33,173
Speaker 3: had a ripper of an hour and some fantastic stories,

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01:53:33,452 --> 01:53:35,612
Speaker 3: mainly from people when they were ten years old. It

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01:53:35,652 --> 01:53:39,012
Speaker 3: turned out burning down a whole bunch of things.

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01:53:39,053 --> 01:53:40,092
Speaker 2: Why a ten year old? Boys?

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01:53:40,093 --> 01:53:42,892
Speaker 3: Such pyromaniacs absolutely loose?

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01:53:43,133 --> 01:53:45,492
Speaker 2: All right? You said, as he will, let you go

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01:53:45,572 --> 01:53:46,772
Speaker 2: give a taste to keep it from us.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Love you.

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Speaker 9: Man, Tyler Radams.

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