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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial

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Speaker 1: and rural news talks Head Been Willy, You're.

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Speaker 2: Welcome today and turns from within the Police over the

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Speaker 2: quality of new recruit Sir Graham Henry with some tips

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Speaker 2: for the all Blacks, the Prime Minister of course, cash

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Speaker 2: rights and power inquiries, the Lads and the commentary Box

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Speaker 2: and good Tourism News Richard Arnold, Steve Price, They Poney

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Speaker 2: up as well, Hosky Brand New Week Welcome to It,

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Speaker 2: seven past six. The obvious question is why on earth

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Speaker 2: don't we or didn't we do that every single time?

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Speaker 2: The Titans curse or hurdle or whatever it is you

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Speaker 2: want to call is legendary, and yet Saturday, of course

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Speaker 2: we killed them, as we should, given we're top of

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Speaker 2: the table and they are not. So here's a thought.

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Speaker 2: Could we be coming right at the right time? Could

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Speaker 2: we be on the ascendency. Teams who peak at the

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Speaker 2: right time of course win competitions. The Panthers are on

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Speaker 2: a roll until whoops, they weren't. The table has moved

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Speaker 2: a little to start to favor us. Some of the

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Speaker 2: teams that might have been within a point and no longer.

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Speaker 2: We are a comfortable fourth. With how much talked about

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Speaker 2: easy run. In so two games to go, I had

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Speaker 2: us winning three of four. If you go back a

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Speaker 2: couple of weeks, I had us winning three of four.

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Speaker 2: Could be wrong. We might win the lot. And if

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Speaker 2: we win the lot, do we go nuts or do

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Speaker 2: we get nervous? And second guess our ability in a streak?

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Speaker 2: Are we capable of a streak? Do some of the

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Speaker 2: injuries come right enough to bolster the side even further?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I know Metcalf was sort of coming

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Speaker 2: right in the kicking department before the injury, But look

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Speaker 2: at Tanna Boyd, where's he Beino Pompy's good as well.

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Speaker 2: We've got two excellent kickers, and we stuck with Metcalf

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Speaker 2: in any number of misses. But I'd agress a good

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Speaker 2: win over a bogey team cannot be underestimated at this

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Speaker 2: end of the season. If for no other reason, then

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Speaker 2: it puts to bed that roadblock we had a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks ago when the injuries were mounting along with

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Speaker 2: the losses. We still will enter the playoffs having not

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Speaker 2: beaten the top sides that we will be about to face.

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Speaker 2: But there's nothing we can do about that now other

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Speaker 2: than perhaps draw from the reassurance and hope that we

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Speaker 2: didn't really know how to beat the Titans properly until

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Speaker 2: we did with this win, these last two and two

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Speaker 2: more goodwins. Surely, surely the confidence must be at a

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Speaker 2: level where genuine belief provides the side of the fan

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Speaker 2: base that twenty twenty five could just be it. It

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Speaker 2: could just be our year.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds sound.

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Speaker 2: In Europe where the Ukrainians have been marking Independence Day.

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Speaker 3: Of today, Ukraine celebrates Independence Day fighting defending itself against

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Speaker 3: attacks and air raid alarms. We are strong and not alone.

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Speaker 3: Every day we are pushing this war back to where

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Speaker 3: it came from.

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Speaker 2: Special guest was Canadian PM Marc Kenny.

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Speaker 4: The approach for securing peace must remain consistent with these

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Speaker 4: principles of no decisions about Ukraine being taken without Ukraine

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Speaker 4: and no decisions about Europe being taken without Europe.

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Speaker 2: Now it's at this point you might be going, what

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Speaker 2: about that meeting?

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Speaker 1: There is no meeting.

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Speaker 5: Blend Putune is ready to meet Bzilian when the agenda

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Speaker 5: would be ready for a standard, and this agenda is

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Speaker 5: not Radieto.

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Speaker 2: So if there's no making, the war rolls on. But

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Speaker 2: Russia has issues in terms of progress.

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Speaker 6: They've really lost badly already because one of the things

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Speaker 6: they did not want was more NATO closer to Russia. Well,

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Speaker 6: they've got Finland and Sweden in NATO now, and they've

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Speaker 6: also got new determination by the Europeans to up their

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Speaker 6: spending on defense.

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Speaker 2: Straight side busy weekend for the dawn, he went patrolling

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Speaker 2: with the Guard on the OsO safe streets of Washington,

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Speaker 2: which gave them an idea.

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Speaker 7: The people in Chicago, mister Vice President, are screaming for

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Speaker 7: us to cast the You're wearing red hats just like this.

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Speaker 7: When we're ready, we'll go in and world straight down Chicago,

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Speaker 2: It's not just Chicago. He's going into New York as well.

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Speaker 2: Then in Britain, we've got the obligatory protests out of

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Speaker 2: the weekend, some from Palestine, some for migrants and hotels.

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Speaker 2: But what about notting Hill. Surely a festival's a good time.

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Speaker 8: I saw someone today get bottled in front of me,

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Speaker 8: pouring out with blood.

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Speaker 9: There was a helicopter a top.

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Speaker 1: Of me like this.

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Speaker 9: This was about one.

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Speaker 8: Point thirty this afternoon, and it's quite scary to be

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Speaker 8: around that kind of you know, Aura.

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Speaker 2: At the festival. Finally, from the sports memorabilia market this morning,

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Speaker 2: we have a basketball card of Michael Jordan Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 2: You probably know the names anyway, John images of both

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Speaker 2: logo patches on the jersey, which makes it all legit. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: what do you reckon pre option? They said ten mil

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Speaker 2: went for twenty two point twenty seven. Previous basketball record

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Speaker 2: was Steph Curry's rookie Logo Man card that went to

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Speaker 2: ten point one. And this new car, by the way,

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Speaker 2: beat out the previous all sports cards record, which was

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Speaker 2: a fifty two tops Mickey Mantle and that previously it's

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Speaker 2: old for twenty one points in US of the world

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Speaker 2: in ninety Japan, you want a bit of Japanese news,

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Speaker 2: manufacturing activity contracted for the second month in a row.

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Speaker 2: They're at forty nine to nine, so it's on the precipice.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, below fifty is still contractions headline inflation. What

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Speaker 2: do they got three point one headline at three point

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Speaker 2: one in the Core Corps. Who doesn't love Core Corps anyway?

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Speaker 2: That came in at three point four twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: Mike, did youred Gregor Paul's brilliant piece about the shock

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Speaker 2: that was Cody Taylor's one hundred?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I did? But are we really the dumbest and dirtiest

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Speaker 2: team in rugby? Is that what we still seem to

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Speaker 2: have that nineteen seventies let's go down and a heave

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Speaker 2: when we lose a game vibe anyway? Graham Henry shortly

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Speaker 2: fourteen past six now from Devin Funds Management, Greg Smith,

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Speaker 2: Good morning morning, Mike, Jackson hole and Jerome came to

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Speaker 2: the party, did he not?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they're calling him Rocketman.

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Speaker 10: The Dow Jones sawed by one hundred and forty six

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Speaker 10: they went too. Sure they were going to play his

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Speaker 10: a dual mandate of inflation but also unemployment, and he

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Speaker 10: tricky position. Might you've got the tariffs. Of course they

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Speaker 10: a possibility that being stowed up in infantries and that

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Speaker 10: American consumers are going to get the impact down the line.

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Speaker 10: But he said that there was a reasonable base case

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Speaker 10: that tariff impacts would be short lived in transitory and

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Speaker 10: I was just wondering where we heard that before. And

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Speaker 10: he did make his point during his speech that central

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Speaker 10: being temporary. But he did say they don't want history

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Speaker 10: So we know the Trump administration view they reckon tear

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Speaker 10: us are not going to cause lasting inflation. They want

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Speaker 10: to see rate carts. The jury is out, but just

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Speaker 10: course what President Trump has been sort of targeted and

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Speaker 10: the importance of FED independence. But an event looks like

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Speaker 10: Trump will get what he wants next month. Market of

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Speaker 10: pricing and the ninety percent probability of a quarter point

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Speaker 2: Okay, so fon Terra speaking of things and getting what

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Speaker 2: assuming they did enough in the field days and the

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you would have to think so. So yeah, party

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Speaker 10: mode again for sort of the dairy ex sect obviously

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Speaker 10: co op up almost twenty percent of the selling and

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Speaker 10: selling the unit to France has lacked us. That's the

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Speaker 10: of results next month. But you'd have to think that

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Speaker 10: that vote goes through.

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Speaker 2: Just quickly running through the two Skys City and TV.

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Speaker 10: Okay, So yeah, but basically sort of at the point

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Speaker 10: but people are spending less. They think things are going

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Speaker 10: to remain tough for this year. Earning Sept four ten

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Speaker 10: She has felled twenty two percent as markets priced in

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Speaker 10: that discounted rights issue, better reaction results in sky TV

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Speaker 10: They lifted the dividend sixteen percent.

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Speaker 2: A lot of the random American stuff happened over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Drive the Hotel Hostels Australia known currently in christ Jurg.

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Speaker 14: There are new and emerging brand in quite a trendy

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Speaker 14: There's plenty of room in New Zealand. We had three

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Speaker 2: Well exactly So where are we at with hotels? I'm

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Speaker 2: Right so do they build it and then the backpacker comes,

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Speaker 14: Well, now, the first thing you've got to remember is

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Speaker 2: To use your term, good on you, James. Nice to

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Speaker 16: For twenty one years Lavrov has been Russia's foreign minister.

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Speaker 16: He's been on the front line forever, and now today

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Speaker 16: he's done this interview with American TV saying what I

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Speaker 16: guess we knew. There is no meeting planned between Russia's

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Speaker 16: Pertin and Ukraine. Zelenski Lavrov saying, quote, there needs to

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Speaker 16: be an agenda first. This agenda is not ready at all,

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Speaker 16: he says. So that puts into the clearest perspective, does

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Speaker 16: it not. The Trump team's claims of significant progress at

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Speaker 16: the Alaska summit, situation on the battlefield tells the story

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Speaker 16: in blood and continuing destruction. Into the weekend, Russia launched

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Speaker 16: the largest assault on Ukraine in weeks, firing nearly six

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Speaker 16: hundred drones and forty crews missiles at targets, including an

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Speaker 16: American owned factory in western Ukraine. Some six hundred civilians

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Speaker 16: were working at this site and at least fifteen workers

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Speaker 16: been injured. Kristen Welker of NBC Todd Levov that many

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Speaker 16: see this as a slap in the face to the

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Speaker 16: Trump team, Levov asserting it was a military target.

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Speaker 17: This is an electronics factory. I've spoken to people on

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Speaker 17: the ground there.

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Speaker 5: It builds coffee machines, among other electronics. This is not

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Speaker 5: a military site. Well, I understand that some people are

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Speaker 5: read in naive and when they see a coffee machine

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Speaker 5: and the window, they believe that this is the place

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Speaker 5: of the coffee machines are produced.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, coffeemakers can be dangerous, right. Jd Vance, US Vice President,

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Speaker 16: also was pressed about this attack on the plant.

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Speaker 17: I don't like it, Kristen, but this is a war,

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Speaker 17: and this is why we want to stop the killing.

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Speaker 16: A military science, says Lavrov. You know, last year I

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Speaker 16: spoke with Associated Press reporter mister Slavchunhoff, who stayed behind

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Speaker 16: Russian lines as they were advancing on the Ukrainian city

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Speaker 16: of Mariopol, which was decimated by Russian siege in twenty

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Speaker 16: twenty two. He videotaped civilians at the local hospital who

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Speaker 16: had been injured in the attacks, and some were bleeding

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Speaker 16: to death and corridors unable to find effective medical assistance.

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Speaker 16: When those videos aired in the West, Lavrov said those

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Speaker 16: injured were actors. Human Rights Watch says some eight thousand

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Speaker 16: people were killed in this siege. Meantime, there was an

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Speaker 16: unexpected moment during the White House meeting about the World

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Speaker 16: Cup soccer draw when Trump suggested that Putin might visit

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Speaker 16: this country to watch a soccer match. Then he pulled

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Speaker 16: out a photo of himself and Vlad on the red

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Speaker 16: carpet in Alaska, saying Putin had sent him the picture.

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Speaker 16: A nice photo of Putin, said Trump, who then said

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Speaker 16: he planned to sign it for Vlad, who is such

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Speaker 16: a big fan of the American president.

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Speaker 2: Do we get anything out of the Maxwell papers?

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Speaker 16: Some of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and Jelaine Maxwell's

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Speaker 16: child six trafficking and responding to the documents, the transcripts,

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Speaker 16: and the tapes from this eight hour interview.

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Speaker 1: The audio was rolled.

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Speaker 16: Out over the weekend when news coverage is less as

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Speaker 16: we know, it has Maxwell saying of Trump, the one

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Speaker 16: person in the world who might give her a pardon.

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Speaker 18: President Trump was always very cordial and very kind to me,

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Speaker 18: and I just want to say that I find I

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Speaker 18: admire his extraordinary achievement in becoming the president now and

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Speaker 18: I like him and I've always later.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this from Maxwell, who is serving a twenty year

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Speaker 16: prison term for setting up and participating in pedophilia. Trump

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Speaker 16: always was a gentleman, she says. Now, some of the

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Speaker 16: victims of these sexual abuses say they are quote unquote

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Speaker 16: outraged over the fact that Trump's former criminal lawyer Todd

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Speaker 16: Blanche even did this interview with Maxwell. At this point,

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Speaker 16: what was it even about? They calling the release of

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Speaker 16: the type a bid to quote rewrite history, says Jennifer Freeman,

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Speaker 16: a lawyer for several Epstein accuses it's grotesque.

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Speaker 1: It's another betrayal for the survivors.

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Speaker 9: Again and again they're not given a voice.

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Speaker 2: Outrageous, she says.

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Speaker 16: Barry Levine, who wrote a book about Epstein and Massaga,

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Speaker 16: says one.

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Speaker 19: Of the witnesses said that she was fourteen years old,

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Speaker 19: met them at a summer camp and that Gillaine Maxwell was.

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Speaker 9: Present during sex.

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Speaker 19: Kate, another of the victims, said that miss Maxwell made

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Speaker 19: her dress up in a schoolgirl at outfit to serve

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Speaker 19: Jeffrey Epstein tea and then have sex with him. Carolyn,

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Speaker 19: who was fourteen, said Maxwell first said, oh, you have

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Speaker 19: a great body for Jeffrey Epstein and his friends.

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Speaker 16: After her interview with a deputy DA Lane, Maxwell was

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Speaker 16: moved to a minimum security prison and takes us where

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Speaker 16: like in one of the grounds at Will. They're out

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Speaker 16: in the actual prison cells, but there is yoga and.

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Speaker 2: Pilates Wensday Richard Arnold state. So the other couple of things,

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Speaker 2: Higseeth fired a guy called Jeffrey. Jeffrey was in charge

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Speaker 2: of the report into Iran. The b twos went in,

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Speaker 2: Trump and Hickseeth claimed that they decimated the capability of Iran.

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Speaker 2: The officials said, well, dented it, and they didn't like that.

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Speaker 2: So they're gone. There's about three of them sacked. We

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Speaker 2: also noted over the weekend, and this is significant. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how they're going to do this. Some of

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Speaker 2: the stuff they're doing requires an element of resource that

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Speaker 2: you would wonder whether it's possible. Anyway, Rubio announce they're

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Speaker 2: going to be reviewing fifty five million visas and if

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Speaker 2: they find anything they don't like overstays, criminal activity, threats

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Speaker 2: to public safety, engaging in any form of terrorist activity,

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Speaker 2: providing support to a terrorist organization, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: If they find anything they don't like in those fifty

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Speaker 2: five million visas, they're going to boot you out of

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Speaker 2: the country. Ten away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike asking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement Communities News

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Speaker 1: togs head been.

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Speaker 2: Mike, don't look down on the backpackage. The backpacker today

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Speaker 2: may well be the wealthy tourist in a few years time.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't looking down on them as just the debate we

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Speaker 2: had over the last couple who remember tourism. Minister Stuart

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Speaker 2: Nash said we only wanted a high quality form of tourist.

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Speaker 2: So we've had this ongoing angsty debate about who we

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Speaker 2: want and who we don't want. Morning, Mike, I run

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Speaker 2: a business in the construction industry. I had bugger all

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Speaker 2: work since March, picked up six months of contracts last week.

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Speaker 2: There's a breeze forming in the economy. I backed luckson

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Speaker 2: or I back lucksm Thank you, Warren. Mike is a

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Speaker 2: farmer shareholder of Fonterra. Like you against the sale, I'm

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Speaker 2: not really. I mean, I'm sort of over it now.

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Speaker 2: I mean I would have voted no. I just never

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Speaker 2: understood why you can't own something success. I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a reason they're paying over three billion. And the reason

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Speaker 2: they're paying over three billion is they see the upside.

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Speaker 2: Why can't we see the upside? I'm all about that,

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Speaker 2: but the average farmer says Pete, it's getting over four

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars that's going to go through. There's no

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Speaker 2: question about that. Mike is a dairy farmer who had

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Speaker 2: monumental amounts of capital taken from our payout for years,

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Speaker 2: whether we could afford it or not. I'm pleased to

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Speaker 2: finally see some capital coming back. Let's sell. I think

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Speaker 2: that's the way it's going to go. I'm piggy the

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Speaker 2: high sixties, early seventies. I think the bulk of farmers

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Speaker 2: will be into it like a robber's dog five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the ouse. It's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Thing of growing staff, thrive and twenty five is not

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Speaker 2: going to happen. And chocolate can tell you that for nothing.

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Speaker 2: So the warning this morning is we're not going to

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Speaker 2: see a shift in cocoa until Easter of next year.

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Speaker 2: And even when you see the shift, prices are never

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Speaker 2: going to be what they were never ever, ever, ever

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Speaker 2: ever coco As we sit here at this morning near

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Speaker 2: record prices thanks to the weather. They got some pests

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Speaker 2: in West Africa. West Africa supplies about seventy five percent

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Speaker 2: of the world's cocoa in the UK. The other day

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Speaker 2: when we told you about their inflation rate. Their inflation

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Speaker 2: rate came out the other day was disaster. Part of

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Speaker 2: that was chocolate products highest average inflation rate in that

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Speaker 2: particular part of the world at eleven percent in the US.

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Speaker 2: And here's here's where the tariffs are going to hurt

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Speaker 2: their economy in the US. It isn't the highest, but

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Speaker 2: it's still twelve percent annually, So that would lead you

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Speaker 2: to ask, all of twelve isn't the highest? What is

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Speaker 2: you see? He's going to introduce tariffs on furniture? I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, and what are you going to do? Sing

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Speaker 2: Antonio Cheterio, sitting in Rome is suddenly going to go

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Speaker 2: I now, I'm going to move to America make my

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Speaker 2: furniture there. B and b it talliers going into Chicago?

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Speaker 2: Are they what a load of crap? I mean? Is

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Speaker 2: America known as one of the great furniture makers of

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Speaker 2: the world. No, So, therefore, what's the point apart from

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Speaker 2: paying more for your stuff from people who do make furniture? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Where was I twelve percent for the chocolate lint? The

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Speaker 2: boss globally says, never again are we going to see

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Speaker 2: the prices as low as we once knew?

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Speaker 5: Them.

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Speaker 2: At the moment, coco per metric ton is thirteen thousand,

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Speaker 2: five hundred and twenty four dollars, which is down from

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Speaker 2: January when it was over fourteen thousand dollars. This time

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Speaker 2: three years ago. You're ready for this time three years ago. This,

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Speaker 2: this will upset you. Remember the number I gave you

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Speaker 2: right now, thirteen thousand, five hundred and twenty four. Three

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Speaker 2: years ago it was four grand, So it's gone from

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Speaker 2: four to thirteen and a half. Now. What is happening

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Speaker 2: is the CHOCOLATEA is there busy using coco they purchased

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Speaker 2: back in Q four of last year. That was when

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Speaker 2: it was at its peak, and that's why you're paying

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Speaker 2: so much at retail at the moment. JP Morgan says,

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Speaker 2: as supply improves and the productions ramping up, we're likely

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Speaker 2: to see the average price eventually get down to ten

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Speaker 2: thousand per metric ton. Tariffs aren't helping, but that's only

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Speaker 2: for America because the Ivory Coast and Garner they've been

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Speaker 2: hit with some fifteen percent. So you can't afford a chair,

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Speaker 2: you can't afford the chocolate.

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Speaker 9: But through of shame, it's the best time to eat chocolates.

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Speaker 9: When you're sitting down.

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Speaker 2: America is the most winning country. We're making money like this.

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Speaker 2: Never been wearing two hundred dollars anyway. Concerns this morning

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Speaker 2: over the police and are new recruits some of them.

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Speaker 2: They did a survey and it's an internal survey within

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Speaker 2: the police. I think that's the key here, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are saying, look, they're just not what

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Speaker 2: they should be. So we'll see what's happening there. We've

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Speaker 2: got the obligatory Monday morning angst after the weekend, and

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Speaker 2: the all black so Sir Graham Henry on that, the

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister in the studio after seven person.

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Speaker 1: News opinion and everything in between, the mic hosting breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Rainthrover leading by example, use togs that'd be.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven. More ranks around our new police recruits.

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Speaker 2: We've got a survey canvassing senior police views that says

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Speaker 2: cops leaving college are barely equipped with the basics of arresting,

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Speaker 2: laying charges. Eighty three percent of respondents also felt the

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Speaker 2: new recruits were poor at organizing official paperwork and a

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Speaker 2: touch a penny as the Assistant Police Commissioner and is

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Speaker 2: with us morning, Good morning, Mike, do we have a

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Speaker 2: problem with our recruits.

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Speaker 20: No, we don't have a problem. We're putting out police

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Speaker 20: officers after twenty weeks that are already for their two

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Speaker 20: year of probationary constable training.

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Speaker 2: So how do we explain the survey and the concern

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Speaker 2: within the force.

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Speaker 20: So the survey is really important because, like anything, we

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Speaker 20: know we're not perfect and we know these always areas

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Speaker 20: to improve. I mean the survey had some good results,

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Speaker 20: we were doing well, but to your point, it had

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Speaker 20: three key areas that we really need to look at

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Speaker 20: and that's under a view at the moment to see

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Speaker 20: how we improve.

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Speaker 2: So will changes be made?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, absolutely, Look, we are the nature of policing now,

654
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Speaker 20: so dynamics that we need to keep graduate tracking. We

655
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Speaker 20: need to actually really challenge ourselves. We're doing a review

656
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Speaker 20: at the moment and early next year we will be

657
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Speaker 20: making some changes to the curriculum.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime before you make those changes, do we

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Speaker 2: have a bad bunch or a batch or two of

660
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Speaker 2: these people have come through that aren't quite up to scratch.

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Speaker 20: Oh no, Look, we have ordinary New Zealanders who take

662
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Speaker 20: on an extraordinary role. They come in and we do

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Speaker 20: twenty weeks training look like it's like anything. It is

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Speaker 20: the start of your apprenticeship. We've got mister and missus

665
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Speaker 20: Smith who come in and within twenty one weeks they

666
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Speaker 20: are actually securing some powers that we take really seriously.

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Speaker 20: So this is just part of their trade ship.

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Speaker 2: Is this any different to what you've seen previously? I

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Speaker 2: mean the fact this is in the public domain. Do

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Speaker 2: you review this on an ongoing basis and tweak and

671
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Speaker 2: twist when you need to?

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Speaker 20: So, yes, we do. I mean we just increased from

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Speaker 20: sixteen weeks to twenty weeks in January twenty four. You

674
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Speaker 20: will seem more of this. We need to make sure

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Speaker 20: that our graduate trekking is on the mark because policing

676
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Speaker 20: is changing and is dynamics, so we will do more

677
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Speaker 20: and more of this, and we just need to be

678
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Speaker 20: transparent and open and say you know what we're searching.

679
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Speaker 20: We're looking at other jurisdictions. We are really deliberate about

680
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Speaker 20: wanting to put out great police officers. So you will

681
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Speaker 20: see more of this not there.

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Speaker 2: Do you face what many employers in this economy face

683
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Speaker 2: at the moment, getting good people is increasingly hard.

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Speaker 20: Well, look for every one hundred applicants we get who

685
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Speaker 20: want to join place, we take just under ten, so

686
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Speaker 20: our standards are really high. Looks recruitment across the world.

687
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Speaker 20: I don't know what it's like the journalism, Mike, but

688
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Speaker 20: we're working really hard to get the right people into

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Speaker 20: the organization.

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Speaker 2: It's shocking for journalism. I can tell you that for nothing.

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Speaker 2: So Mark Mitchell earlier on this morning said it's world class.

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Speaker 2: You would confer not wanting to get you in trouble

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Speaker 2: with Mark Mitchell, of course, but you would confer it

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Speaker 2: as world class, remains world class, and you're confident of

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Speaker 2: what you do.

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Speaker 11: Well.

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Speaker 20: I appreciate you not wanting me to get in trouble

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Speaker 20: with the minister. But look, Mike, we are constantly trying

699
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Speaker 20: to be the best we can be, and we know

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Speaker 20: that we have worked to do. But you know here

701
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Speaker 20: today what I can ensure all of New Zealanders. We

702
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Speaker 20: just have such amazing police officers on the frontline doing

703
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Speaker 20: the absolute toughest jobs they can do. We have work

704
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Speaker 20: to do in training, of course we do. Are we

705
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Speaker 20: going to be perfect? Probably not, but are we going

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Speaker 20: to try bloody hard.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely good to hear, nice to talk to you, appreciate

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Speaker 2: it very much Tusha Penny, who was the Assistant Police

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Speaker 2: Commission At ten minutes past seven related matters, we might

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Speaker 2: have found a tough judge in what some are calling

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Speaker 2: a sort of a landmark case in Napier. We've got

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Speaker 2: a twenty year old man with no previous convictions has

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Speaker 2: been sentenced to twenty seven months jail after crashing while

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Speaker 2: under the influence of cannabis. The crash killed one friend

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Speaker 2: and left another wheelchair bound, the judge stressing the need

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Speaker 2: for serious consequences for impaired driving. Now, John Unrose a

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Speaker 2: criminal defense lawyer and is with us. John morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, way.

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Speaker 2: Is this unusual?

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Speaker 21: I don't think it really is, beause the judge took

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Speaker 21: a starting point in the sentence of faunat half years

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Speaker 21: I think for memory, which is within the range for

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Speaker 21: that sort of offense for two basically one person deed

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Speaker 21: and one seriously maimed. So I don't think it's that unusual.

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Speaker 2: No, that's what we were having a debate off here

726
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Speaker 2: as to whether this was the thing or not, whether

727
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Speaker 2: we're going to see some sort of change. And because

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Speaker 2: you start at fifty four, he had twenty percent discount

729
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Speaker 2: for guilty please, fifteen percent for you, five percent for

730
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Speaker 2: allowing his victims to be heard through the restorative justice process,

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Speaker 2: and ten percent for the rehabilitative efforts. And by the

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Speaker 2: time you get to that, you're down to twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: which is above the twenty four for the two years,

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Speaker 2: which means you're going to jail, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: That's right, Yeah, that's right. It he missed out on

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Speaker 21: the sort of threshold, which was twenty four months, and

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Speaker 21: that's probably going to get tougher as well, because if

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Speaker 21: the starting point remains the same for an offense which

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Speaker 21: takes place perhaps in a year's time, those discounts, if

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Speaker 21: you call them, that is going to be kepped at

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Speaker 21: forty percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. How someone when when you start at fifty four

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Speaker 2: as he did. How prescriptive is that?

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Speaker 14: It's really not that prescriptive.

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Speaker 21: Because it's dealt with by past cases, so there'll be

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Speaker 21: precedents around that sort of guide the judge in that

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Speaker 21: fashion as to where he should start at.

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Speaker 2: The defense. So you're arguing, for home D, is that

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Speaker 2: standard as it doesn't matter what's happened, Let's have some

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Speaker 2: home D.

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Speaker 21: Not necessarily. I mean my style usually is if it

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Speaker 21: gets if it gets close, will try for home d

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Speaker 21: and other things can get discounts, such as at the

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Speaker 21: time they were on bail, electronic bail for example, he

755
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Speaker 21: might have slipped under, but not necessarily no, but I

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Speaker 21: will oss after I've done the reductions of my own head,

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Speaker 21: I'll try for home detention.

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Speaker 2: Okay, appreciate your insight. John John Munroe, who's criminal defense lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen coming up to thirteen minutes past seven past sailor

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Speaker 2: to economies, so pressinct properties they did. If you know

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Speaker 2: Commercial Bay in Auckland, that's a commercial bay. They're now

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Speaker 2: into the domestic side of the equation. They got a

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Speaker 2: billion dollars plus worth of new Auckland apartments coming, including

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Speaker 2: a place called Pillars twenty unit, four levels, College Hillst.

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Speaker 2: Mary's Bay, very nice part of the world. They're a

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Speaker 2: big force in the apartment so you think, oh good, excellent.

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Speaker 2: So a nice big pipeline there. Counteract that with Smith City,

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Speaker 2: you know, the name business has dropped forty percent from

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Speaker 2: two years ago. They're not renewing leases on five of

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Speaker 2: their store So Nelson, Blen and Wellington Parmers to North

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Speaker 2: Towering are already closed. Wanaka, they're in the process of

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Speaker 2: shutting up shop. At its height, thirty five shops around

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Speaker 2: the country. Now they've got eleven. It's the economy. You

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Speaker 2: don't buy a TV to eat. They reduce staff at

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Speaker 2: head office, they reduce staff in stores. So they've got problems.

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Speaker 2: Somebody who's building? So are we bullish or are we not?

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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister at about twenty minutes time fourteen pass the.

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Speaker 1: Hike asking breakfast full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: B sixteen past seven, So what a difference a week

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Speaker 2: can make? Ay? The All Blacks go down to the

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Speaker 2: argues for the first time at their place, and you

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Speaker 2: know how New zeal And does handle an all like

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Speaker 2: lost que the critics on a Monday morning, Sir Graham.

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Speaker 2: Henry joins us Graham morning, worrying Mike, are we in trouble?

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Speaker 8: Nah?

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Speaker 2: Good, ma'am. So what do you make on Rick this morning?

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Speaker 2: It's the dumbest and dirtiest team in rugby? Is that true?

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Speaker 13: No, that's it's just ridiculous. No, No, it's a very

790
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Speaker 13: evening competition. I think we've probably got a bit complacent,

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Speaker 13: We've got a bit comfortable. I would imagine after and

792
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Speaker 13: reasonably easy. Were in the first Test, I know we were.

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Speaker 13: We didn't play particularly well and I think they probably

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Speaker 13: got comfortable. But I think it'll be very good for

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Speaker 13: going forward against South Africa and to testone. You know,

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Speaker 13: there's nothing like a New Zealand team that's all black

797
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Speaker 13: team that's got beaten. It really galvanizes them and really

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Speaker 13: focuses them, and I think that's what they require.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 13: We got outplayed and the boys boys said that after

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Speaker 13: the game. I thought they handled that well. They gave praise.

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Speaker 13: We were was Juve Argentinian's out played across the park quite frankly,

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Speaker 13: and we were disappointing. So but going forward is probably

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Speaker 13: probably good for us.

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Speaker 2: The discipline, the rules, the interpretation of the rules. Is

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Speaker 2: there an issue there or not.

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Speaker 13: I think the rule book's too complicated. I think they

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Speaker 13: should blow it up and start again. Quite frankly, I

809
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Speaker 13: think it's a negative and you need to get some

810
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Speaker 13: rains together and just simplify the rule book so everybody understands.

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Speaker 13: Even the players sometimes are dumbfounded by the rulings of

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Speaker 13: the referee. So no, I think that's something that we'll

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Speaker 13: Rugby needs to sort out and sort out quickly.

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Speaker 2: Okay I haven't followed it closely enough, but the South

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Speaker 2: Africans Australian scenario with the two different results, are the

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Speaker 2: South Africans better or the Australians better or a bit

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Speaker 2: of both or as South Africans Well, what's going on there?

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Speaker 2: And do we need to worry?

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Speaker 13: I think the Asies have got better. Their coaching is

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Speaker 13: very good. They have improved immensely, which is great for

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Speaker 13: the game in this part of the world. I think

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Speaker 13: South Africa gone backwards from last year, but they will

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Speaker 13: be hugely motivated for the All Black tour. Eden Park

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Speaker 13: will be massive tests in two weeks time. They've got

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Speaker 13: They've got the ability, there's no doubt about that. They've

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Speaker 13: probably got the more depth than anybody else in the

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Speaker 13: world right now, depth and in talent. But Joe Smithton

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Speaker 13: and Mike Cron have done a fabulous job with the

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Speaker 13: Wallabies and they've got their pride back their problem and

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Speaker 13: they haven't got a lot of depth. So whether whether

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Speaker 13: they can keep the top team on the park or

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Speaker 13: a top team on the park is the big challenge

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Speaker 13: I think.

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Speaker 2: So it makes it exciting. SA Graham always a pleasure

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Speaker 2: appreciate your times for Graham Henry, former All Blacks coach.

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Speaker 2: So Glenn, I'm correct in saying Glenn's correct so far

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Speaker 2: one of the right, right, Sam and I had two zips,

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Speaker 2: so we're wrong, so we're out of the competition.

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Speaker 22: I believe.

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Speaker 9: I also said I wouldn't be surprised the All Blacks

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Speaker 9: one the first game in Argentina and second.

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Speaker 2: That's good, but you also have us losing two to

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Speaker 2: South Africa. Correct two and one apiece for Australia.

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Speaker 9: Correct.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well you're on the track unpatriotic.

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Speaker 9: I don't. I don't Hey, I don't want to be right.

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Speaker 9: Sometimes it's not easy being right.

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Speaker 2: Well, it turns out seven.

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Speaker 2: the code breakfast for another one of their fabulous free

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Speaker 2: gifts as well. But eight hundred triple line three oh

871
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: nine from about Health asking are we in trouble, Sir

872
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: graham Na, That's what I like. I think we still

873
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: got that hangover from the period we expect to win everything.

874
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: I mean I expect us to win everything, but you know,

875
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: sometimes you don't. MPs. Here's the headline, MPs struggle to

876
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: identify silver bullet solutions. We speak of banking MP struggle

877
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 2: to identify silver bullet solutions. So so read the headline

878
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: Friday as GENETIBS training detailed a year's worth of work

879
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: by the Finance and Expenditure Committee that's come up with nothing. Oh,

880
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: they made recommendations, don't get me wrong. I mean, imagine

881
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 2: what it would look like if they'd been toiling away

882
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: for a whole year and came up with a blank

883
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: piece of paper, but without telling you I told you so,

884
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: I told you so. And here is the difference between

885
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: us and them, right. They entered this particular exercise with

886
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 2: the banks with an ideological or conspiratorial bent the opposition

887
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: and their ideas involve public ownership of banks, Marrie banking theories,

888
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 2: all sorts of psychobabble that's got nothing to do with competition.

889
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: The government has the Nikola Willis idea that this is

890
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: all a scam. The banks are crooks, they're ripping us off.

891
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Now I've argued there is no scam. There is plenty

892
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: of competition, and I have become increasingly convinced the issue

893
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 2: really lies in the Reserve Bank and their desire for

894
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: retail banks to hold gargantuan amounts of money in reserve

895
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: just in case labor. They buy into this thinking, which

896
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: is why they appointed Adrian Or who introduced the rules

897
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: in the first place. The evidence is all around us.

898
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: Ask yourself some questions. Is their choice? Do people swap

899
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: banks a lot? Do banks openly compete for customers? Can

900
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: you do deals through brokers or directly?

901
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 5: Yes?

902
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. Would more banks help probably,

903
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: but there's nothing stopping them opening. So the committee has

904
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: no silver bullet. You know why because there isn't one.

905
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: Because guess what. The system isn't broken. No, it's not perfect.

906
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: It's what happens in limited markets and small populations. As

907
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: I've said to Nichola, willis all along. Have you got

908
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: an answer?

909
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 9: Do it?

910
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: Pull the trigger, show us your trick, wave your wand

911
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: But one year of searching tells you one thing. If

912
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: you look at things with an open mind, you wouldn't

913
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 2: have gone down the rabbit hole. Pasking what he Mike,

914
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: did you read Damien Grant's article yesterday spot On about

915
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 2: really happened with our COVID response? Yes I did. It

916
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: was quite entertaining what he was referring to if you

917
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: missed it is we're re litigating the labor mood. This

918
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: as Robertson, Hipkins and Dirn, etc. Who don't want to

919
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: front up to the COVID inquiry. What his argument was

920
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: is half the country literally fronted up in twenty twenty

921
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: and said, oh, we love you, we love you, we

922
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Speaker 2: love you so much, come and run in our country.

923
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: Now suddenly we hate them. So I take that point.

924
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: I worked for Smith's Mike Smith City many many years ago.

925
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: They strike me as a business that expands and contracts

926
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Speaker 2: all the time, a business that struggles to find its

927
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: place in the market. Could Mike Cristuti is a big pipeline,

928
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 2: a major event, electric cabin you sell and sounds, edgere

929
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Speaker 2: and etc. And that's before any stadium events are announced.

930
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Speaker 2: Why can christ you to get attacked together on events

931
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Speaker 2: and other cities can't. What an excellent question. The question

932
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Speaker 2: partially is answered by do you want a national strategy

933
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: on events or an individual citywide strategy on events? And

934
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Speaker 2: never the train shall meet. So there could be something

935
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Speaker 2: in that. But I will be talking to the Prime

936
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Speaker 2: Minister about that because, as I mentioned over the week

937
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Speaker 2: in Sedema Hotel, Brand said, we are desperate their words,

938
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Speaker 2: not mine, We are desperate for events. You need a pipe,

939
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Speaker 2: you bring events to places people come. So we'll talk

940
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Speaker 2: a bit about events with the Prime Minister, Mike, we

941
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Speaker 2: all came out of police college with the basics. You

942
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Speaker 2: learn most of your skills when you are skills when

943
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: you start at the station. It takes good sergeants and

944
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 2: field training officers to make a good cop lance. I

945
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: couldn't agree with you more In reading that report, what

946
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 2: becomes apparent and I think the teachers ran into this

947
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: thing as well, is there's not enough real world experience.

948
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Speaker 2: In other words, just sit in a classroom, theorizing with

949
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: a black board or a white board or you know,

950
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 2: thinking about what it might like and be like, and

951
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: suddenly you get out into the real world and it's

952
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: all help what happens now. Whereas if you get out

953
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: into the classroom or into the field more often, you

954
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: might get a better response, or you might be more

955
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: prepared for what's coming next. So I think there's something

956
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: in that, and I think that's one of the tweets

957
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 2: that they're looking to make stand by the Prime Minister

958
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 2: is next on The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

959
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The Mike

960
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate Altogether Better across residential

961
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: commercial and rural news talks dead.

962
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Speaker 2: B twenty three minutes away from eight Monday morning, it's

963
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: Prime Minister time and he is in the studio. It's

964
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Speaker 2: again with this good morning to you. Can I just

965
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: give you the smallest amount of advice take it a

966
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Speaker 2: little bit, but I'm here to help. So I'm watching

967
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: you yesterday at your railway crossing and what.

968
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 9: A stand up that was.

969
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: And so I'm watching at the railway crossings down and

970
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: I thinking to myself, so the boots I can forgive

971
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: you because you were a spade and I get it,

972
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Speaker 2: and you got a nice pair of brogues you don't

973
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Speaker 2: want to ruin. So I get that hi versves seems

974
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Speaker 2: to be a thing.

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Speaker 12: Jack.

976
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: No, No, you can do all of that. But what's

977
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: the safety glasses for? What was the problem with the

978
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Speaker 2: same What was going to happen with the space?

979
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Speaker 17: I literally get there, I show up, I say hello

980
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 17: to some people, I get handed some stuff to put

981
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Speaker 17: on right, and I don't know, I guess maybe as

982
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 17: I put the shovel into the ground where they worried about.

983
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 2: A stuff and a stone flocking up just so I thought, mate,

984
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: you're overly dressed for a space. Yes, I mean, I

985
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: mean having a digger. Yeah, I'd get it.

986
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 17: I think the I think the safety gogles with the

987
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 17: hard hats and the high verse on the test train

988
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 17: ride of the CRL was really quite something.

989
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 12: So Winston may have had a point about that.

990
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: Okay, now the events Sedema I'm watching over the weekend.

991
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: Sedema is in the hotel chain, said Auckland. And so

992
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: you've got this two speed economy and we'll come to

993
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank in a moment. So they're saying we

994
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: are desperate for events. If you have events, we will

995
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: fill hotel rooms. So I'm reading over the weekend we've

996
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: got too many hotels in Auckland. We haven't gotten up

997
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: in Queenstown. Is there something that we need to do.

998
00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, well that's the sort of thing that we're open

999
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 12: to look at.

1000
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 17: And I know Louise Upstin's thinking about the Major Events

1001
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 17: Fund in particular because I agree with you. I think

1002
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 17: that is something that is genuinely stimulating economic activity versus

1003
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 17: rinkerdink you in this point when it's tough in Auckland,

1004
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 17: there's a whole bunch of calls for stimulatory spending and

1005
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 17: doing stuff you can do crazy cost of living payments

1006
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 17: like we saw under the last lot, or you can

1007
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 17: genuinely do things like that. And I think we should

1008
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 17: rethink our whole major events. And you need to because

1009
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 17: it's a pipeline of activity. You've actually got to stuff

1010
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 17: it with things that may not pay off just this month,

1011
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 17: but actually will pay off in a year or two

1012
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 17: ahead as well. And you've got a signal that. So

1013
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 17: I've asked for a total rethink on major events. The

1014
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 17: model that I looked at was actually I spoke to

1015
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 17: about it before as Victoria under Jeff Kennett, they had

1016
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 17: a major event every quarter, they had medium events every month,

1017
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 17: they had micro events every week. And that's the kind

1018
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 17: of thing that we've got to really think about that

1019
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 17: major events.

1020
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: Are we thinking about it or we're doing it?

1021
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 12: No, we're doing it.

1022
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 17: So Louise Upston is Tourism and Hospitality of us her

1023
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 17: to run the major events our fund as well and

1024
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 17: think about what more we can do in that space.

1025
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: So on Friday we get the banking inquiry. This is

1026
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: cross party. There is no magic bullet. I've been trying

1027
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: to say this long, this thing that Nicol has gotten.

1028
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: I think you've brought into as well as there's some

1029
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: sort of scam out there in the banking world. Clearly

1030
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 2: is not true. They look for a year to find something,

1031
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: they couldn't find it.

1032
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 17: Yeah, look this, I mean they came out with nineteen recommendations.

1033
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 17: Of course, a lot of it was pretty similar to

1034
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 17: the fourteen that the Commerce Commission has done with their

1035
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 17: market study. Yet we need more innovation open banking, you know,

1036
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 17: get rid of some AML stuff that's constraining stuff. Again,

1037
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 17: A big thing is really the Reserve Bank of New Zealand's.

1038
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 12: Capital rules review, which is going on.

1039
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 17: They'll announce where they are with their proposals today. Good,

1040
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 17: which'll be Do you know what that announcement is? No,

1041
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 17: not really, but I know I've I've got a sense

1042
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 17: of where it'll go. But I haven't seen the detail

1043
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,439
Speaker 17: of the report or anything there. But I think you've

1044
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 17: seen people say, hey, us and those settings are way

1045
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 17: too conservative. Agreement that's actually drives up the cost it

1046
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 17: costs rest for agrico exactly.

1047
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: The actual problem was Adrian or money for a rainy day.

1048
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: We know banks are profitable. There isn't a problem. I mean,

1049
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: you guys have overstoked. That's happened to you. There isn't

1050
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: a scandal in the banking sector.

1051
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 17: No, But as a government we should make sure that

1052
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 17: everything is the settings are as competitive as they possibly

1053
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 17: can be. And genuinely, those are things like the open

1054
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 17: banking piece of your ability to move your information and

1055
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 17: accounts around the fact that banks, when they are praising

1056
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 17: you for a loan, should have the same criteria. All

1057
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 17: those things don't sound that sexy, but they all add

1058
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 17: up to make a much more competitive setting. Obviously, we've

1059
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 17: got the five hundred million dollar capital raise for Kiwibank.

1060
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 17: That's up to four billion dollars. That creates four billion

1061
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 17: dollars more lending. That's ten billion dollars with a household lending.

1062
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 17: That's actually quite material in terms of impact that it has.

1063
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: One analyst over the week and said, that just makes

1064
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 2: another big bank. Nothing changes, So I mean nothing. I

1065
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: mean good on you. I don't mind if they're big

1066
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 2: and they're successful, fantastic, Let them be successful. But if

1067
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 2: there's no fundamental core problem with the industry, you tinkering

1068
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 2: with it doesn't actually change. It doesn't.

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Speaker 17: No, But when you've got fourteen things that have come

1070
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 17: out of commerce Commission. When youve got nineteen things that

1071
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 17: have come out of a slipt midion inquiry and there

1072
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 17: are some and sense things about regulatory settings that we

1073
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 17: can adjust, we should do that, obviously, Kee we Bank

1074
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 17: can get an in capital. Obviously the Reserve Bank of

1075
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 17: New Zealand thinking about its capital rules. All of that

1076
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 17: is very helpful, okay, and we should. You know, our

1077
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 17: job is to make sure the operating system is as

1078
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 17: competitive as it possibly can be by each.

1079
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: Sector fair enough. And with the announcement today from the

1080
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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank, if they don't curtail some of that money

1081
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Speaker 2: put aside for a rainy day, you're not going to

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Speaker 2: be a happy prime minister.

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Speaker 17: Correct, Corrent, I mean I think the settings have been

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Speaker 17: too conservative and I think that came through actually in

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Speaker 17: the Sleet Committee inquiry. When you look at agricultural lending,

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Speaker 17: for example, it's not just about the capital requirements. It's

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Speaker 17: also been about the risk assessment that they do as well.

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Speaker 2: And so can you can you instruct that because the

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Speaker 2: argument is that it's a greater risk lending to a

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Speaker 2: farm than it is to a bloke can pons and

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Speaker 2: b downtown buying their first house? Is that true or

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Speaker 2: not in your view.

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Speaker 17: Well, I mean it depends, but I mean I don't

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Speaker 17: think that. I think that's been one of the issues

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Speaker 17: that we've highlighted as hayllis, and that doesn't all feel right.

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Speaker 12: It's set.

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Speaker 17: I mean, you're looking at look at the royal economy

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Speaker 17: at the moment. It's a pretty good place to send on.

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Speaker 2: The differences with the reserve money from the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 2: That's a specific policy that the retail banks have got.

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Speaker 17: To follow corect They've got to hold more capital, which

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Speaker 17: means they have to pass that on with higher costs

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Speaker 17: of higher interest rates.

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Speaker 2: Seeing the rural community though as a higher risk is

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Speaker 2: an approach from the retail bank, and that's an attitude.

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Speaker 2: You can't legislate or regulate attitude.

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Speaker 17: Can you know that some of the capital rule settings

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Speaker 17: have actually led to them assessing risk very differently by

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Speaker 17: sector and some of that's not right. And so I

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Speaker 17: think you'll actually see a much I hope you'll see.

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Speaker 17: All I like to see is actually much more pragmatic and.

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Speaker 2: You know what's going to happen. Well, why do you

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00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: tell me you don't know what's going to happen with you?

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Speaker 17: I haven't center for it, but I'm just saying I

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00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 17: think all of us a number of places. That's come

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00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 17: from so many different places. Hey, listen to these capital

1117
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 17: rules that were put in place by Robertson and Awe

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00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 17: actually have actually driven up interest rates in higher cost

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Speaker 17: of ending this it does need to be revisited.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the Reserve Bank, the other thing that was

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Speaker 2: fascinating last week was you were busy telling us what

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00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: a great day it was because Christian had done another

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Speaker 2: twenty five points. Why can't you? I know why you can't,

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Speaker 2: but why don't you because you must be tempted to

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Speaker 2: say what he really should have done is fifty when

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Speaker 2: he didn't do a damn thing, when he missed the

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00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: whole economy going backwards, and that was his job then,

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Speaker 2: and he's not doing his job properly.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I meet with him once before any of

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Speaker 17: those sort of announcements happen, and I can often give

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00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 17: my views in that case, but do yep. But that's

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Speaker 17: me giving my reconds and my perspective. Which but what

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00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 17: was interesting was you would have seen they published that

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Speaker 17: actually two of the six four voter for twenty five

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Speaker 17: and so he voted for fifty you know.

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't fix your problem. The economy's stall because

1137
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: he's not doing his part or they're not doing their part.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, well, I hear that frustration.

1139
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 17: I get that these but he's also got two more

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Speaker 17: shots before Christmas, and yeah, too late, and I get

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Speaker 17: may I get yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree with me?

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Speaker 12: Well I personally, yeah, I do, Yeah, I do, Yeah,

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Speaker 12: I do.

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Speaker 2: I think And is that what you told him in

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00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: the meeting pretty much?

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Speaker 19: Yep?

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00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: Right, So that's fine.

1149
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Speaker 17: So I can give my views, but I respect the

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Speaker 17: interpendence of the Reserve under legislation.

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00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: But you're the one who's going to lose your job

1152
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Speaker 2: next year if the economy doesn't come right because some

1153
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: people didn't do their job properly at the right time

1154
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 2: because they couldn't see a contraction. How you're at the

1155
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: Reserve Bank and you fail to see an economy going

1156
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: backwards is beyond me. Yeah.

1157
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Speaker 17: We had very strong growth at the end of last year,

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Speaker 17: or it got stronger in the first quarter of this year.

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Speaker 17: We hit April Liberation Day, no doubt about it. I

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Speaker 17: reckon the economy is contracted. Over April June, July, April May, June,

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Speaker 17: July we're now growing July August the supporter will be

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Speaker 17: growing again.

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Speaker 2: You believe them, So you think you think Q three

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Speaker 2: is okay, Q four better.

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Speaker 17: I think Q two was probably contracted slightly. I think

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Speaker 17: Q three will be positive slightly, and.

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Speaker 12: Q four is looking really good.

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Speaker 17: And if you look at that forecast, you know they're

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Speaker 17: still saying you're on track for two point seven percent

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Speaker 17: growth over the next average over the next few years,

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Speaker 17: the two hundred forty thousand jobs.

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Speaker 2: And do you know why I don't believe that, because

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Speaker 2: if we're on growth track, owner God, I hope I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: If we're on track for two points in growth, we're

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Speaker 2: outgrowing Australia.

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Speaker 9: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So you don't look convinced either, do you? So that

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Speaker 2: you don't know?

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Speaker 17: No, I looked at the Australian budgets and you're looking

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Speaker 17: at an Australian budget where they're not in surplus for ten years.

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Speaker 12: They're talking about.

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Speaker 17: A one trillion to one point two trillion dollar deficit.

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Speaker 17: You're looking at a growth rate that is going to

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Speaker 17: be really comparable, if not ahead of where Australia is.

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Speaker 17: That's quite reasonable. So I mean, I get it. But

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Speaker 17: I think we actually have done a lot of the

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Speaker 17: right things that we had to deal with to sort

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Speaker 17: the to take our medicine, to deal with that recession

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Speaker 17: that was created artificially that was worse than it needed

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Speaker 17: to be. I think we're doing the right things for

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Speaker 17: the long term, some of those RMA reforms, educational reforms,

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Speaker 17: what we're doing on trade and investment. You know, our

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Speaker 17: exports are up seven to nine percent this year.

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Speaker 9: You know, there's a lot of good stuff.

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Speaker 17: Going on in the economy, and there's also signs that

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Speaker 17: activity is coming back to the economy as well.

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Speaker 2: Just real quick, the Electricity Authority to announced that investigation.

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Speaker 2: Where were they last winter? In the winter before, were

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Speaker 2: they asleep?

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Speaker 17: Well, we've had an almighty come to Jesus chats and

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Speaker 17: stuff since last year series of electricity meetings, factly and

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Speaker 17: energy because we shouldn't have an electricity problem or an

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Speaker 17: energy crisis in New Zealand when we've got abundant natural resources,

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Speaker 17: you know. So yeah, we put a strategic coal reserve

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Speaker 17: in place to make sure that.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but did you put a rocket under the

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Speaker 2: electricity Authority?

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Speaker 17: We've sufficed to say we've had a series of meetings

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Speaker 17: in my office.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The only thing you can do to make me happy

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Speaker 2: this morning is announced that foreign buyers are going to

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Speaker 2: be able to buy a house.

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Speaker 17: Can it is coming so close? I'm telling you, Mike,

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Speaker 17: how weeks away? How weeks away?

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Speaker 2: How many two or three?

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Speaker 12: It could be done?

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Speaker 9: Two to three weeks?

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Speaker 2: Two to three weeks? Do you know the date?

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Speaker 22: Yes?

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Speaker 5: I do?

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Speaker 2: Is it announced on a Sunday?

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Speaker 12: I will make sure you know him in advance.

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Speaker 2: I'm available.

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Speaker 12: I can't tell you now. I tell you it's coming,

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Speaker 12: but says.

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Speaker 2: Christmas, But it's coming before Christmas? Oh yes, yes, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Christopher lux Than thirteen to wait.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: It'd be ten minutes away from Mike foreign hire a ban.

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Speaker 2: He said two to three weeks last week, and I

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Speaker 2: think even the week before that. Then jokes before Christmas?

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with them? Why can't they actually have a

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Speaker 2: solution and a timeline on a date. These are all

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00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: very fair questions. But I think you're going to be

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Speaker 2: hearing an announcement before you know it, and it's not

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Speaker 2: a moment too soon and to the people who go

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Speaker 2: the house prices will go up because of it. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's true. And having talked to a couple

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Speaker 2: of people in the last couple of weeks in the

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Speaker 2: real estate market, there are two things to watch out

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Speaker 2: for when the announcement's made. One is there a flood

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Speaker 2: of so called foreigners you suddenly come into the country.

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Speaker 2: We'll be tied to the Golden visa because the Golden

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Speaker 2: visas a smashit. And if you're putting five up to

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Speaker 2: ten million dollars into the country to put that amount

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Speaker 2: of money into the country to come and start a business,

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Speaker 2: grow a business, buy a business, whatever the case may be,

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Speaker 2: and then be told to go rent a house or

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Speaker 2: airbnb is the stupidest thing in the history of stupid things.

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Speaker 2: So will there be a flood of people all of

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Speaker 2: a suddenly go, I want to buy a house in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. Maybe maybe not, So that'll be part of

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Speaker 2: that demand thing that we're seeing in places like tourism

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Speaker 2: for example. Maybe maybe we've lost our shine. The other

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Speaker 2: thing to note is at what level do they set it.

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Speaker 2: It'll be multimillion dollars, it might be bespoke. It might

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Speaker 2: be different in Auckland and Queenstown than it is in

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Speaker 2: the rest of the country. So for example, it might

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Speaker 2: be three or four million in Auckland and Queenstown, might

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Speaker 2: be two million elsewhere, who knows. But the point being

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Speaker 2: is that will prices overall go up, not necessarily because

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Speaker 2: a person coming in from America with six million American

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Speaker 2: dollars to buy a ten million New Zealand dollar house

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Speaker 2: is not going to affect the first home buyer, are they?

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Speaker 2: But we will stand by eight minutes away from eight the.

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Speaker 1: My costing breakfast with Rainthrowvern News togs dead be Mike.

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Speaker 2: Let's say foreign buyer has to buy, say it's four

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Speaker 2: million dollar minimum, but the house he wants to buy

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Speaker 2: is only three and a half million. What if they

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Speaker 2: will still pay four million dollars to make the minimum target. Well,

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Speaker 2: you're starting to invent the market. What you're suggesting is

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Speaker 2: people who have done well for themselves in life just

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Speaker 2: wander around paying a whole lot more for something that

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Speaker 2: they don't need to pay more. One of the things

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Speaker 2: I've learned about housing is that that whole line about

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Speaker 2: oh it's the one. As soon as I saw it.

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Speaker 2: I thought that's the one for me. Such thing there's

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Speaker 2: a million houses for you, So I think you're inventing

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Speaker 2: a market that doesn't exist.

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Speaker 22: Mike.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong. I prefer this lot over the

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Speaker 2: other muppets. But you get the impression the Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: is just telling you what you want to hear. Now,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's true. Was that Luxon's resignation note

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Speaker 2: to say the economy was growing as fast as the

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Speaker 2: end of last year and was growing better the start

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Speaker 2: of this year. Is completely at odds with what most

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Speaker 2: people are saying. No, just to be fair to him,

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Speaker 2: what is saying and numbers get confusing, of course, and

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Speaker 2: Q one of this year we went up point eight percent,

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Speaker 2: more than many thought. Good piece of growth. We liked it.

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Speaker 2: Q two it fell over. Christian Hawksby and his gang

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Speaker 2: at the Reserve Bank completely missed that. We all felt it,

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Speaker 2: saw it, lived it. He missed it. Should have done

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Speaker 2: more when he did, but he didn't. Q three They

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Speaker 2: think is growing not much, but it's a bit and

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Speaker 2: they see some real umph coming in in Q four.

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Speaker 2: Q four being the final three months of the year.

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Speaker 2: Of course, my point being the Reserve Bank Governor of

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Speaker 2: Australia and her assessment last week was busy curtailing the

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00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 2: GDP in Australia at one point seven. So if we're

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Speaker 2: growing at two point seven next year, which is the

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00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: four car by the way, if we're growing at two

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00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: point seven and they're at one point seven, we are

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Speaker 2: outpacing Australia by some considerable margin. So I would take that,

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00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: and of course from his point of view, from a

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Speaker 2: political point of view, if you can get two point

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Speaker 2: seven percent growth in an election year, then things are

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00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: going very nicely, thank you, Mike. The Reserve banks sol

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00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: mandate is to manage inflation as legislated by this government

1313
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: end off, but they're not even doing that because it's

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00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: sitting at two point seven rising. They think it'll breach

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00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: three by the end of the year. So they've got

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00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 2: next to no growth. They've got inflation because of all

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00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 2: the cost plus accounting that's going on at the moment.

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00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 2: They don't know what to do about it. Economy, Mike.

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00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 2: Next quarter, farmers are spending, tourists are coming for spring

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Speaker 2: fingers crossed. I'll take a bit of that, right, oh,

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Speaker 2: Sports time in the commentary box after the news which

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00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: is next heard News Togs.

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Speaker 1: Edb setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The

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Speaker 1: Mic Harting Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way,

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00:59:55,240 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: News Dogs head bro no no one.

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Speaker 22: Come baby says.

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Speaker 11: A time up.

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Speaker 23: White Killows have won that right really, Jail Twine King three,

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Speaker 23: Wayne j.

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Speaker 24: Jo Full Time Warriors thirty two, That Titans eighty twenty nine,

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Speaker 24: twenty three and what a sign is He's bouncing Argentina.

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Speaker 24: They did it in Paramta, they did it in christ Church,

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01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 24: they did it in Wellington, but now they do It's

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01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 24: in their capital.

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Speaker 9: Babe, do get the final say here in York against

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Speaker 9: the black Ferts.

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Speaker 1: Has start their camaigne the defense of their world drowned.

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Speaker 25: We're at empathetic fifty four points to eight victory.

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Speaker 1: Iris thanked the Monday Morning Commentary Box on the Mike

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01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: Husking Breakfast with Spears Final it's supporting Kiwi businesses with

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01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: finat Solutions for over fifty years.

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Speaker 2: Jason pin Andrews haveal good morning to you both morning.

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Speaker 2: Way are we dumb and dirty? Jason? The way I'm

1344
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: reading in the paper.

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Speaker 23: This morning, interesting colin from Gregor Paul, who is a

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 23: pretty incisive analyst of the game. Look, I think when

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 23: you give up three yellow cards, all of them probably avoidable,

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01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 23: when you give away penalties and kickable positions, then I

1349
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,439
Speaker 23: guess you can say that you know they perhaps left

1350
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 23: a little to be desired. The aerial game will be

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01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 23: talked about a lot. Why on Earth can't we compete

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01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 23: in the air? Personnel changes? Are there any coming for

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01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 23: the South African Test? A lot of questions for this

1354
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 23: team as they jump on a plane back home.

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Speaker 2: Right, So let's get it on the record because Glenn's

1356
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: winning this one so far. Sam and I are wrong.

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01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: I said two wins. Sam said two wins. Gleed said

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Speaker 2: one apiece. He's got two losses for South Africa. He's

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01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: got one apiece with Australia. Jason Pine of Wellington, New

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Speaker 2: Zealand call the rest of the.

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Speaker 23: Series, all right, one apiece South Africa and both wins

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Speaker 23: against Australia.

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Speaker 22: Andrew, I wouldn't be surprised, mate.

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Speaker 25: Look, yes, the All Blacks are going to have to improve,

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01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 25: and we keep getting told that they're working on their

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01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 25: discipline and the aerial game each week, but it just

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01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 25: isn't improving. So they need to have a big turnaround

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01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 25: on that front. If they can do that, and if

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Speaker 25: they can play football that doesn't look absolutely confused at

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Speaker 25: the best of times. I think they could beat South

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Speaker 25: Africa twice here yep, and Wallabies twice, So you say

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Speaker 25: two and two. I'm not one hundred percent sure about that,

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01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 25: but that's the way I'm leaning if. And the big

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Speaker 25: if is if they finally improve, because Mike, we've had

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01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 25: five tests this year and there's no sign of overall improvement.

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Speaker 2: I don't think no, you go, you got the whole

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Speaker 2: warm into it thing. I did raise you too, and

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Speaker 2: you will remember I did raise Boden Barracks kicking last week,

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Speaker 2: did I? Or did I not? And I was I

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Speaker 2: was poo pooed by. I think you, Andrew, you were

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Speaker 2: the lead poop poo who goes no, no, And I'm

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Speaker 2: just thinking, well, what happened there?

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01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,959
Speaker 22: Yeah, you missed a few, But again, you can't pine

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01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 22: just on him.

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01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 24: Well you can.

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Speaker 2: Because and I don't want to kick him in when

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Speaker 2: he's down.

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Speaker 22: He got more all over. But there were a couple

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Speaker 22: of tricky ones from the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry tricky now are they They're all of a

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01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: sudden tricky, are they he left more points, more points

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Speaker 2: on the table than we lost by. If he'd got

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Speaker 2: them all.

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Speaker 25: If you'd got them all over, maybe argent well, Argentina

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01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 25: probably should have scored two or three more tries, but

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Speaker 25: they didn't.

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Speaker 22: They could have won by more.

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01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 25: They should have won by more with the amount of

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Speaker 25: position and territory they had, they should have beaten you

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Speaker 25: All Blackswy twenty thirty points.

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Speaker 1: I reckon you all.

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Speaker 23: Blacks to win the next four tests based on the

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01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 23: first five of the year.

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Speaker 11: Save. It's a pretty bold claim.

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 2: Mate, it's exactually, now I think about it.

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Speaker 22: You put it that way, Jason, Sometimes we have to

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01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 22: make bold claims. Jason.

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: Well, it's all on record. It's all on record.

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01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 22: Of course.

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Speaker 25: On the other hand, it could turn into an absolute disaster.

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Speaker 25: I heard I heard Graham Henry on with you earlier, Mike,

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01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 25: and I think he was being.

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Speaker 22: Nice, was he? He's clearly mellowed in his age because

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01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 22: of his all Black team.

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Speaker 25: Had it been making the same mistakes and not improving

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01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 25: after five TC, he'd be stripping word walls.

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, sir, before I forget, did you

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01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 2: guys open the champagne when you got the the MPC

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01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 2: deal on Friday with Sky Were you very.

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01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 22: Happy about it? Very happy about it?

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Speaker 25: I think it'll put clearly more eyeballs back on provincial

1422
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 25: rugby and hopefully create more of interest.

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01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 22: And more of a feeling around m PC.

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Speaker 2: I hope.

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Speaker 25: So there's there's some there's been some okay crowds in

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Speaker 25: the provinces, but in the big cities that they're not great.

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Speaker 22: Well.

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Speaker 2: I saw yesterday I saw some of that Otago game

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01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 2: who they were playing, and that it looked like an

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01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 2: ok crowd to me. Having said, the only reason I'm

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: fascinated with Free to Wear now is that nine Channel

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01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 2: nine has got the EPL and they had a game

1433
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 2: was it Manchester City playing whoever Manchester City were playing?

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01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 2: They had huge numbers. Like you put it on Free

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01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 2: to Wear, there's no denying that it will get highball

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 2: and interest. So I think that that's probably positive.

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01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 25: If and when we put so Friday night or a

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01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 25: Saturday night game on TV one next year, would you

1439
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 25: do that?

1440
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: What is Coronation Street going? What's happening there?

1441
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 22: Coronation Street can go on after the rugby? Can it?

1442
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 2: I might be but tanked to carry on with it?

1443
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 22: You can stream it. Oh okay, I'll come around and

1444
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 22: I'll help you download the air.

1445
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: Got to talk about the Warriors more in a moment.

1446
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: Jason Andrew thirteen past the.

1447
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power It

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01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:41,560
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1449
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: Talks Hip News Talks It be quarter past eight.

1450
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mic Husking Breakfast

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01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for

1452
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: over fifty years.

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01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: Jason quick word on the women's rugby. I'm not excited

1454
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: about Spain. Spain. We thrash, We did thrash them. Is

1455
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: Inland the favorite and they deserve favorites?

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01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 23: Yeah, yes, and yes, quite overwhelming favorites, I think, Mike.

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01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 23: They hardly ever loseer game. They were very impressive and

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01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 23: they're first up when we seem to be on a

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01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 23: collision course to play them in the final. If we

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01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 23: make the final against England, absolute underdogs eighty two thousand two,

1461
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 23: can be a huge day.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, got to get their first of course.

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01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 22: Okay, hey Mike, just quickly back to the All Blacks.

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Speaker 22: I think I mentioned it last week. If I was

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01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 22: David Kirk, the new cham and I'd be on the

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 22: blower of Joe Schmidt straight away.

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01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 25: Yeah, but not necessarily to work, not necessarily become the

1468
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 25: All Blacks coach all of a sudden.

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01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 2: But put him on a retainer, you reckon, Yep, Stroll.

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01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 22: I think he would work.

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Speaker 25: I don't think he would work with the current All

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01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 25: Blacks test group, but look at what he did in

1473
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 25: twenty two to twenty three with the All Blacks.

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01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 22: He can't be lost. And he's on on rugby anyway.

1475
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 2: Well, David k David Kirk will be listening to this program.

1476
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 2: He'll take Now the warrior is Andrew. I'm revisiting, and

1477
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 2: I'm increasingly embarrassed about my behavior in the last up.

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Speaker 22: We thought they were gone.

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01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 2: No, I didn't think they were gone. They're always going

1480
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs and they could maybe maybe not

1481
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: make the four. But they've turned a corner and that

1482
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: was a good win. It wasn't just a win. It

1483
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,480
Speaker 2: was a Titans win and you can't underestimate that. And

1484
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 2: I just think that things are coming right. Will they

1485
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: boot top sides? I'm still not one hundred percent convinced

1486
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 2: that's true. But we're bully, I mean, we're top four,

1487
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: we will finish in the top four.

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01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,440
Speaker 25: I think, well when when the last two games? I

1489
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 25: think it's the yields home this week, Yees put them away.

1490
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 22: Yep.

1491
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 25: So yeah they're looking good for the top four. But

1492
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 25: will that guarantee they move deep into the playoffs?

1493
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 2: Well no, you play the top so so before we

1494
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: play one, now that's our chance. Imagine. Imagine if if

1495
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 2: we play four and we play one and we beat one,

1496
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 2: then we come back home, then we come back home.

1497
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: It's all at that point, it's all on. Even if

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01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 2: we don't beat one, we come back home and it's

1499
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: all on.

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01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 22: Still. So did you did you see any of the

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01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 22: two games on Friday night?

1502
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: I saw the highlights of one. But you know those guys,

1503
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 2: these guys are all falling over, they're all sort of like,

1504
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, oh they can't be beaten. Whoops, Yes they can.

1505
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 25: They Look, they were those two games. They were sensational games.

1506
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 25: They were playoffs. I mean that Raiders Panthers game was

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01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 25: worthy of a Grand final.

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01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 14: Yes.

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01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, the football.

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01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 25: The football is entertaining, it's it's attacking. So we're not

1511
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 25: up and you look at what listen, you look at

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 25: what rugby unions become and it's just bash bash bash bash.

1513
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 25: Fifteen players fan out across the field bash bash bash

1514
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 25: rugby league. With thirteen on the field, there's more room

1515
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 25: to move.

1516
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: I agree with you. You're talking to the converted here, Jason.

1517
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 22: I think the four YEP.

1518
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 11: I think they'll be in the fourth. We'll beat the Eels,

1519
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 11: they'll beat manly.

1520
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 23: But the top four and that includes Penrith who currently

1521
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 23: I look at the table of seventh, but they feel

1522
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 23: like a top four side. The Raiders, Storm, Bulldogs Pan

1523
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 23: just feel like a cut above and watching them play

1524
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 23: Friday night there felt Having said that, though I thought

1525
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 23: the Warriors, I thought the Warriors were good the other

1526
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 23: night without being great. They let those two too late Trizon,

1527
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 23: which will be I guess a little bit of an

1528
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 23: annoyance to them, but you know they went there. I

1529
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 23: like the way Chanelle, Harris, Devita and Tanner Boyd are

1530
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 23: starting to combine. Having Roco bery back made a massive difference.

1531
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 23: Roger to vasishek man that guy, I mean, what a

1532
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 23: player he is. I like the way they're going. I

1533
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 23: think they'll get a fourth who knows from there.

1534
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: A ton of Boyd and why weren't they using him

1535
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 2: earlier when old Luky couldn't kick a ball as he

1536
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: was doing his bowden impress and couldn't kick a ball

1537
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: to save himself. Got Pompy, got Boyd, got good kickers,

1538
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 2: why not use them?

1539
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 11: Well, I think Luke Metcalf is.

1540
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 23: I think he's the He was the clear number, the

1541
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 23: clear number seven jersey wear until I got injured. So

1542
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 23: hard to put Boyd and metcalf into the same team.

1543
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 23: But I think Boyds, you know, has come through a

1544
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 23: bit of a tough patch. I think he'll he'll continue

1545
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 23: to flourish. Look, I'm looking forward to see what happens.

1546
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 11: And you're right, Mike.

1547
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 23: If they play the Raiders, for example, one v four

1548
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 23: go to Canberra, a very hard place to go and win.

1549
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 23: You know, all of a sudden you're a game away

1550
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 23: from the Grand Finals and that game is at home.

1551
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 11: So yeah, anything can happen.

1552
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 2: I reckon.

1553
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 22: Do they didn't get a playoff at home?

1554
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 11: Yes?

1555
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 2: They do. If the top four always end up at

1556
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: home unless you play above. So in other words, four

1557
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 2: players one so you go one one is at home obviously,

1558
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 2: so once say we come back home, we'll play I

1559
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 2: don't know, say seven or eight or whatever.

1560
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 22: We're at home, get a good chance.

1561
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: Damn straight, tell me how many. The only reason I'm

1562
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 2: saying this is Vulteri Botas is going to get signed

1563
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 2: by Cadillac. I've got Sugio Perez and Voultery Botas. By

1564
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: the way, if one's back this coming week, so tell

1565
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: me how many public saunas there are in Finland, either

1566
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 2: of you? Go public public saunas and Finland tell me fine.

1567
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 11: I would say.

1568
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: Population population five point five million, so, in other words,

1569
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: exactly the same population is New Zealand. How many public

1570
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 2: saunas in Finland? Sav go?

1571
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 22: I'd say a million?

1572
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 2: One million, Jason like.

1573
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 11: Seven hundred and fifty thousand.

1574
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: Three point three million. Wow, there's your fun fact.

1575
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 22: It's a lot of sweat, isn't it.

1576
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: It's a lot of sweat, but it's good for you.

1577
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 22: A lot of sweat and a lot of eucalyptus oil.

1578
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. Nice to see you again.

1579
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 25: Do you keep your do you keep your eyes on?

1580
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 25: Ears on Vulchery Botas on social media. It is very funny.

1581
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 2: He is extremely funny. And what was interesting about Botas

1582
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: and Sergio Perez is that they were going to go

1583
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 2: with an experienced person plus a beginner. Looks like they're

1584
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 2: going to go with two experienced, which would make them

1585
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 2: the most experienced combination as far as I can work

1586
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 2: out in the history of every one for a new side.

1587
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 22: Anyway, it's nice to hear from your Mic Happy days, And.

1588
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 2: You too, Andrew, and you too, Jason Pine. It is

1589
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: eight twenty two the.

1590
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs. There'd

1591
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: be now.

1592
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: Fifty five years ago, a vehicle was born that would

1593
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 2: reshape the world of luxury forever we speak, of course,

1594
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: of the fabulous original rain Driver wasn't just a U suv.

1595
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 2: It was an entirely new idea that capability and elegance

1596
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: could coexist, that a vehicle could be as at home

1597
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: on a muddy trail as it was outside that five

1598
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: star hotel. And from the very beginning, rain Drover has

1599
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: stood for something more than transportation. It's about presence and

1600
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: status and a quiet confidence. It's a name that's come

1601
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: to mean refinement without compromise, elegance with purpose, a brand

1602
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 2: that's earned its place in the driveways of royalty rebels,

1603
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: taste making and trailblazers. Alike in New Zealand, hit from

1604
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: day one found a home early embraced, not just for

1605
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: where it could go, of course, but for what it

1606
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: said about the people who drove it. In rain Drover

1607
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 2: never shouted, doesn't need to because true icons don't follow trends.

1608
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 2: They defined them. So over the decades it has remained unmistakable.

1609
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: For fifty five years, rain Drover has led by example.

1610
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 2: See for the very best of the best your local

1611
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: rain Drover retailer today asking, certainly enough, I should mention

1612
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: Harry Metcalf, who I've got a lot of time for

1613
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 2: if you're into cars, Harry's garage. He did his he

1614
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 2: reviewed his car. He's got a range drove Sport and

1615
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: he it's a PHEV and he made what I thought

1616
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: was one of those points you thought, hang on, why

1617
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 2: have I never thought of that? So he's done on

1618
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 2: average for his first year, seven thousand miles. He does

1619
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: miles because in the UK, so it is seven thousand

1620
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: miles in his first year. And he worked out that

1621
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 2: he did sixty percent of his travel on battery and

1622
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 2: forty percent on engine. But he reckoned if he didn't

1623
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: do so much towing. He does a lot of towing,

1624
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: he do eighty percent on battery and twenty percent on engine,

1625
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: his point being that if you're doing twenty percent on

1626
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: your engine, when you sell your car after four or

1627
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: five years, your engine's hardly been used. And so are

1628
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 2: they are going to be a whole pile of cars

1629
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 2: in the car market with a comparatively speaking unused engine.

1630
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 2: And is that a waste of an engine? Or what

1631
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: do you do with a car? Or does the car

1632
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 2: age more slowly? And because none of us know what

1633
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 2: happens to a battery and after I don't know six years,

1634
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: whatever it is, is the battery shot, is it still usable?

1635
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 2: Is it still very usable? And if it is very usable,

1636
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: you've still got this largely unused engine. And therefore, are

1637
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 2: you're going to be driving your car forever with an

1638
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 2: engine that's barely used if you're running eighty percent on

1639
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,439
Speaker 2: battery and twenty percent on your engine, And that's a

1640
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,600
Speaker 2: lot of money to go into an engine or a

1641
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 2: thing within your car you're not using. He loves the car,

1642
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 2: of course, being a rain driver, and it's plagued. H

1643
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: But I just thought it was interesting and I hadn't

1644
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 2: thought about, you know, given you've got two means of

1645
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: transportation and you're using one means a lot more than

1646
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 2: the other. The Other's quite an expensive thing to have

1647
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: in there and not really being used, isn't it? A

1648
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 2: lot of anngs still between Australia and Israel at the moment.

1649
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 2: Penny Wong had to go over the weekend see price

1650
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: on this and other matters after the News, which is next.

1651
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: The breakfast Show, Kiwi's Trust to Stay in the Know,

1652
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Raindrover leading by example, News

1653
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 1: Togs Dead b Mike.

1654
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 2: The issue with the petrol electric is the petrol engines

1655
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 2: don't last as long as the engine predominantly runs cold

1656
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 2: when most of the where and damage occurs. Do you

1657
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: think that's true. I'm not sure that's correct. Cadillac might

1658
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: need to minimize costs and keep developments. Experienced drivers can

1659
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 2: hopefully keep the cars on the road and not in

1660
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 2: the barriers. Means more miles and dafter. That's actually a

1661
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 2: very good point. And in reference by the way to

1662
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 2: Finland which I mentioned with the lads at three million,

1663
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: there's over three million public saunas in Finland. They put

1664
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 2: it down, they reckon at least it's a very interesting

1665
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: article over the weekend. It's one of the happiest places

1666
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: on earth, Finland, that whole Scandinavian thing, and they basically

1667
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: live the same sort of lives. They eat a lot

1668
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: of fish, they have a lot of sunlight and summer,

1669
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: and they do a lot of saunering. They put that

1670
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: they think that that's probably a major reason why they're

1671
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: run some of the.

1672
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 9: Heavy so pub public sauna, so people are going on

1673
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 9: and paying to go into a section, and there's three

1674
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 9: million of them.

1675
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: There's three million, over three million in a country a

1676
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: five point five million. Everyone's got a sauna and most

1677
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: of them are public and you go along and a

1678
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 2: lot of meetings they were telling a lot of meetings

1679
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: are done in saunas.

1680
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 9: Difficult to take notes, I would have, And a lot of.

1681
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 2: Politics is done in saunas. You've got to wear something

1682
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 2: in public saunas generally it's done naked, but in a

1683
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: public sworn you've got to wear something. But a lot

1684
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: of meetings, a lot of politics, and in the West

1685
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 2: it's seen has been a sort of a solo effort.

1686
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 2: Were as very unusual in Finland to sauna by yourself

1687
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: and that's where the camarader in the community spirit comes along,

1688
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 2: because people go along and thinks are the growth. I

1689
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: looked up as a result of that article. I looked

1690
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: up public saunas or communal saunas in this country. There's

1691
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 2: actually quite a few of them, and there are businesses

1692
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 2: that run and there was one I won't name them,

1693
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 2: but they had a They've got a series of public

1694
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: saunas around the country. But then I looked at the

1695
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 2: photo and it was a photo full of people in

1696
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: the sauna, and there was about two that.

1697
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 9: Would make me exactly unhappy. I don't agree more happy.

1698
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 9: I could have been more unhappy. I looked, I looked at.

1699
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: The twelve or thirteen people in the sauna, and I went,

1700
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: do I want to be in that room really tightly

1701
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 2: squeezed in with you? And the answer was no, I don't.

1702
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: Twenty one tonight.

1703
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 15: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

1704
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 15: for New Zealand US.

1705
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: The Tasman to the place. Very good morning to you.

1706
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 8: I'm not sure I need to hear about nakedness in

1707
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 8: the sauna at breakfast time.

1708
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 2: No, no, so, my sincere apologies about that. The Coalition

1709
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 2: and knit zero. So this goes back to what I

1710
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 2: what I'm finding interesting about this is you've got you've

1711
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: got these smaller parties on the outside going if you know,

1712
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: come on over here, if you don't like this whole

1713
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 2: knit zero obsession, come over here, give us your vote.

1714
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: So the coalition seemed to have problems with us.

1715
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 8: They do, indeed, And the one person who hasn't forgive

1716
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 8: my voice, I'll go back off. The one person has

1717
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 8: a real problem is Susan Lee. She went up to

1718
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,720
Speaker 8: the Queensland. So in Queensland, the Liberal National Party are

1719
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 8: one party, they're not a coalition. So it's the NP

1720
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 8: in queens and they had their annual conference. It was

1721
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 8: on the weekend. Susan Lee stood up and said, you know,

1722
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 8: the coalition if it wants to get re elected, has

1723
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 8: to modernize, broaden hour appeal in order to back voters.

1724
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 8: After the result in May, Well, that didn't go down

1725
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Speaker 8: all that well because the LMP in Queensland voted over

1726
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Speaker 8: Welming to walk away and dump net zero. Net zero

1727
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 8: was signed up in Paris for the Morrison outfit. And

1728
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 8: there's a clear division within the Liberal Party in particular

1729
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 8: that those on the right don't want to be signed

1730
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 8: up to net zero. Those on the left want to

1731
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 8: stay there and believe that they have to do that

1732
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 8: if they want to get re elected. So this is

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01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 8: just going to cause huge problems when you're consider that.

1734
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Speaker 8: In the LNP in the Parliament, you've got people like

1735
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 8: David Little Proud, the Leader of the Nationals. You've got

1736
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 8: Matt Canavan, a Senator from North Queensland, some quite influential

1737
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 8: MPs for Queensland to walk away, as WA has, as

1738
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 8: South Australia has. Susan Lee is the of the left

1739
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 8: in the Liberal Party. I would think her leadership is

1740
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 8: under a serious challenge right now.

1741
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 2: That's aside, are they in any way, shape or form

1742
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 2: done anything post election towards renewing themselves.

1743
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 8: She's trying very hard. She's in the media a lot.

1744
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 8: She's travel around the country. You might know she's a

1745
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 8: piloting flylight plane. She flies a plane around the country

1746
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 8: visiting people. But no is the answer, not at all.

1747
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 8: Labor is just monstering them day after day after day.

1748
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 8: Parliament resumes today and you can bet in Question times

1749
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 8: somehow labor will get mentioned in that zero.

1750
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,560
Speaker 2: In there now Cinderellen, I thought you told us that,

1751
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 2: just Cinderrellen. Despite the fact she was going to make

1752
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 2: a law for work from home, she can't actually do

1753
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: it because that's more a federal thing than a local thing.

1754
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 2: Is that not true?

1755
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 8: It is true, But she's going to push ahead and

1756
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 8: try and do it.

1757
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 13: And there is.

1758
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 8: Analysis this morning that if you enshrine working from home,

1759
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 8: that is, she wants people to be able to tell

1760
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 8: their bosses, I'm stay at home for two days a week.

1761
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 8: I don't care what you think, and you can't tack me.

1762
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Speaker 8: There is an assessment on tax.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 8: Currently your primary place of residence is tax free, you know,

1765
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 8: I mean you don't pay tax on your own property.

1766
01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 8: But a tax lawyer has said if you guaranteed working

1767
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 8: from home, so you're going to have a home office,

1768
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 8: presumably you could then face land tax bills if you

1769
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 8: take this up on a permanent basis, so you'd be

1770
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 8: paying Currently you don't pay land tax on your principal property.

1771
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 8: You pay rates, but if you turn it into an office,

1772
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 8: then this tax expert says you would be paying tax.

1773
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 8: Permanent working from home arrangements would trigger that tax, especially

1774
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 8: for freelancers. Or contractors who are mainly the sort of

1775
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 8: people who actually want to work from home. So again

1776
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 8: I'm pretty confident you won't be able to get this up,

1777
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 8: but with the Allen government you're never quite too sure.

1778
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm reading over the weekend. So the guy who was coming,

1779
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: the Israeli politician Rothman, who was coming there for a

1780
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 2: visit god is visa renewed, and he had a crack

1781
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 2: nit Nya, who's had a crack, I know that Wang

1782
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: had a crack back at them. As this goes nowhere,

1783
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: good does it?

1784
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Speaker 7: No?

1785
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 8: The person who had the biggest practist, Tony Burker, course

1786
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 8: has got a massive electric in Sydney that is highly

1787
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 8: Islamic Muslim population voting for him, and so he really

1788
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 8: got stuck into Netnya who had called the Prime Minister

1789
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 8: Anthony Alban easy week and Tony Burke came out last

1790
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 8: week and said, well, strong leaders don't make themselves strong

1791
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 8: by bombing innocent people and killing and starving people with

1792
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 8: a famine. So the left is really very agro in

1793
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 8: this space. This politician's being banned is not allowed to come.

1794
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 8: That means that Australian in Israel, people who were a

1795
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 8: part of the Palestinia Authority representing Australia in Jerusalem have

1796
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 8: now been kicked out of the country. The relationship between

1797
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,559
Speaker 8: the two groups couldn't be worse. I don't know if

1798
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 8: you saw the pictures of the weekend. There were massive

1799
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 8: rallies in Brisbane, estimate of fifty thousand people there. Police

1800
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 8: said it was ten. But there were big rallies in

1801
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 8: Sydney and big rallies again in Melbourn which happened.

1802
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 2: Well, what I mean, no one can owns what's happening

1803
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 2: with the starvation and the misery. But you're walking down

1804
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: the main street of Brisbane. What do they think is

1805
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: going to happen that Nita, who's going to wake up

1806
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 2: and go oh no, will stop the war? Thanks for protesting?

1807
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: I mean, what a wasted time.

1808
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 8: It is a waste of time. And you don't see

1809
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,799
Speaker 8: anyone protesting about what Harmask did and suggesting that Harmas

1810
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 8: lays down its weapons, it releases the hostages and stops

1811
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 8: the killing. I mean, if you want to stop the

1812
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 8: Isra what Israel is doing in Gaza, Harmas is the

1813
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 8: key to stopping that until Harmas is completely destroyed and

1814
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 8: that YO won't stop it's just a waste of time

1815
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 8: those protests.

1816
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 2: All right, mate, rest up well and we'll catch up

1817
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 2: on Wednesday with you. As Steve Price out of Australia,

1818
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 2: I will come back to this. But they've got this

1819
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: battery scheme in Australia now, and I was talking at

1820
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: the bosses just installed solar at his house to heat

1821
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 2: his pool and he's very, very happy with proceedings on

1822
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,759
Speaker 2: the heating of his pool as roof got to sixty

1823
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:46,839
Speaker 2: degrees over the weekend and it's going up six degrees

1824
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 2: a day, not continually, of course, because eventually that would

1825
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 2: turn it into a spar pole and that's not what

1826
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 2: you want. But it goes up six down six, up,

1827
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: six down six. So it's pretty happy with things at

1828
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: the moment. But they've got this battery thing going on

1829
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 2: in Australia that may well come here anyway more in

1830
01:22:58,200 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: a moment.

1831
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Speaker 1: Eight forty five the High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast

1832
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio, Howard By News talks.

1833
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Speaker 2: At b Yeah, it's a smash it this rebate scheme

1834
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: that got going Australia. They're ridding the equivalent of South

1835
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: Africa's Big battery to the grid. Every eight point seven days. People.

1836
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,120
Speaker 2: It's gone off like a rocket, so to speak. So

1837
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: projected to lift the renewable energy share of the power

1838
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 2: supply by four point five percent above the market operator

1839
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: estimates by twenty thirty, by nine percent by twenty thirty five.

1840
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 2: It's called the Cheaper Home Battery program. They're installing fifty

1841
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 2: megawat hour's worth of batteries per day, or about five

1842
01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: times more than added on the average down twenty twenty four,

1843
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,080
Speaker 2: two points seven times higher than the previous projected it

1844
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 2: would be by twenty thirty five. So people are loving it.

1845
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: Once you can store it, I think that's the key.

1846
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 2: It's all very well doing your renew renewables at your

1847
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: house because soul has been reasonably popular in Australia because

1848
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: they got a lot of sun in that particular part

1849
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 2: of the world. But of course unless you can store

1850
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 2: it for a later use, it's not as useful as

1851
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: it could be. So you've got this huge surge in

1852
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: clean power and the next point, and they sort of

1853
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 2: already ran into that in certain states already, and that

1854
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: was as solar became very popular, the energy companies lost customers.

1855
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 2: So originally the idea was you get solar and whatever

1856
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: you had left over because you couldn't store it because

1857
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: batteries were in their infancy, So whatever you had left

1858
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 2: over you gave back to the grid. Now, then the

1859
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 2: grid worked out that because you had a lot of

1860
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,839
Speaker 2: people on solar, they didn't have any customers, so suddenly

1861
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,920
Speaker 2: they didn't want to pay anymore, so they stopped paying you.

1862
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 2: So then you had just spare power. Then they're now

1863
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 2: worrying about the people who are no longer customers. They

1864
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 2: don't have a big enough customer base. So by the

1865
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: time you add batteries to this, the picture for large

1866
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 2: power companies I thought was would be somewhat suspect. But

1867
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 2: that's their problem, not ours, morning, Mike. You still need

1868
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,840
Speaker 2: to service every ten thousand k's is back to the

1869
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: PHF thing. You still need to service every ten thousand

1870
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: k's oil and the petrol engine looks like new, very

1871
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 2: low use. But when the full EV batteries were out,

1872
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: you essentially have a hybrid.

1873
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Speaker 9: Is that what it is?

1874
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: I don't think we've got to that part. Do we

1875
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: know that for a fact, because batteries haven't run out.

1876
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: Batteries haven't been around long enough to run out. Yet

1877
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: have they? But most people serve us their carab annually anyway,

1878
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: don't they. You do it on time, not necessarily miles.

1879
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: You do it on miles if you do a lot

1880
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 2: of miles, But if you don't do many miles, you

1881
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 2: do it on time, Mike, Finland might have a sauna

1882
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: in every corner, but New Zealand's got a laundromat on

1883
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: every corner. Whatever happened to everyone having their own washing machine?

1884
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 2: Somebody told me once, and I can't remember who it was,

1885
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 2: that if you want to invest, laundromats are good, and

1886
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 2: there's good money in laundromats. I would rather shoot myself

1887
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 2: than go to a laundromat. For the main reason that

1888
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 2: you were stuck time wise for god knows how long.

1889
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 2: So you put your money in the machine, and you

1890
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: don't want to leave the thing, because of course someone's

1891
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: going to indict your washing, so you've got to stay.

1892
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 2: So you put your money in the washing machine. So

1893
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: you wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait

1894
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 2: and wait, find and finished. Then you get stick it

1895
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: in the dry and then you wait wait. I mean,

1896
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 2: how many hours you're waiting for for a couple of

1897
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 2: bucks to wash.

1898
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 9: And dry, so they combine them and may have a

1899
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 9: laundromat and then you get all your communal.

1900
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,760
Speaker 2: You need a window, like most suns have a window.

1901
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: You need a window from the sauna to see your

1902
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: washing machine, because there'd be nothing worse than stepping out

1903
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 2: naked to see the guy nicking off with your washing.

1904
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 2: But it's not a bad idea. Synergies is what you're

1905
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,879
Speaker 2: talking about. There isn't it. In fact, you could recycle

1906
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: the heat and the whole things. Yeah, it's a circle.

1907
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 9: Basically, it events itself.

1908
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: All the bright ideas on the my Hosking Breakfast nine

1909
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 2: to nine.

1910
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Speaker 1: The my Casking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities News,

1911
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Speaker 1: togsad be.

1912
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Speaker 2: Remember the school lunch drama? Was it a year ago?

1913
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 2: Less than a year ago. It was a disaster. It

1914
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: was carnage. David Seymour was the devil. The food exploded,

1915
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: kids were dying, the food never turned up. It was

1916
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: like every night. It was just a calamitous mess. And

1917
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,800
Speaker 2: you notice how you don't hear about it anymore. You

1918
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 2: know why because it works. And here's your update. Thirty

1919
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 2: supplies of applied to deliver are the next bunch of

1920
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: non intermediate primary school teachers because remember they saved money

1921
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 2: and they fed more kids. Government put out a tender.

1922
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,839
Speaker 2: There's one hundred ninety six contributing schools which have pupils

1923
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 2: up to year. Sex supply is going to be announced

1924
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: in October, but thirty suppliers have But so therein it

1925
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: suddenly works. It's amazing, isn't it. It's the end of

1926
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: the world when it's not working. When it is working,

1927
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: you never hear from it again. Five minutes away from nine.

1928
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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Warehouse Great Savings every.

1929
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Speaker 2: Day World Tree Hugging Championships in Finland over the weekend,

1930
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 2: of course, forgot to mention that along with the saunering.

1931
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 2: But the trick is you hug as many trees as

1932
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 2: you can in a minute. You've got to hold each

1933
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 2: hug for five seconds, and the feeling of your love

1934
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 2: of nature must be conveyed in the hug, and also

1935
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Speaker 2: the overall creativity with your hugs, so you may be

1936
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: like a hand round the back for a bit of

1937
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 2: a tickle up.

1938
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Speaker 9: So it's sort of a we've got a sort of

1939
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 9: a gymnastics synchronized swimming sort of situation here. Maybe wrap

1940
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 9: a leg round it where it's not just the technical aspects, it's.

1941
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Speaker 2: The it's the emotion.

1942
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Speaker 9: Take fleaar.

1943
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Speaker 2: Would you grind a bit or not? Really? Would that be?

1944
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Speaker 9: I don't know if you get points on the points

1945
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 9: off for that to be honest?

1946
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:13,280
Speaker 26: Anyway, there's a video oy yoi that is that is

1947
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 26: also excellent double hugging. These are all counted as long

1948
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 26: as they're five seconds. It's time for the last seconds

1949
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 26: of this hug because we're well over one minute already and.

1950
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Speaker 23: Uh just sneaking a hat with an extra average point.

1951
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Speaker 23: So they scored forty two point five.

1952
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Speaker 11: It was Auntie and Matty.

1953
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Speaker 2: It sounds like Michael Taylor doing it similar, don't they?

1954
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: And doesn't sound like there's a lot of people there

1955
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 2: and do a lot of finished people go oh, you're YOI?

1956
01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 9: Is that they were too busy in the sawner, aren't they?

1957
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 2: They could be that anyway. They Antie and Matty one

1958
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,479
Speaker 2: a one week stay for two in Levi and a

1959
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: private acooning trip for two in the Paliuu in the

1960
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 2: Halipoo Forest. They're going to receive a foraging and food

1961
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 2: experience as well in the Arctic nature by Antarctic Frontier

1962
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Speaker 2: and if you want to enter that, and who doesn't

1963
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Speaker 2: after listening to that, oy Oi is you've got to

1964
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: win a local competition. You can't just go straight to

1965
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,759
Speaker 2: the nationals. You've got to go to the local competition.

1966
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Speaker 9: Get only there was somewhere in New Zealand where they

1967
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 9: grow trees.

1968
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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean, go go out and practice today,

1969
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Speaker 2: Go and you know yourself with a tree today and

1970
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Speaker 2: see how that goes for you. And you can join

1971
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Speaker 2: Anti and Mattie next year, next year at the tree

1972
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Speaker 2: hugging contest. All of that's true, All of that actually happened.

1973
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Speaker 2: I didn't make up.

1974
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Speaker 9: Matty was on top of Anti Bitch.

1975
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Speaker 2: Anti doesn't surprise me. Happy Days.

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