1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Barry Soper, senior political correspondents with US right now, Barry, Hello, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: good afternoon. Now Barry Labor wants an inquiry into the 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: mongrel ob raids to determine what exactly. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Please, I mean, honestly, let's put this in perspective. Police 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: executed thirty search warrants on this. They twenty eight people 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: were arrested, methamphetamines, ammunition and guns. 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Were found, and now those assassinations were prevented. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: That's right, prevented. Labour's says that the inquiry should be 9 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: made into the allegations that children were somehow, somehow kept 10 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: by police in the houses for some hours. A spurious 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: allegation that was made, and of course it's been vehemently 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: denied by the Minister of Police. Well, there's one avenue 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: to do if you really want to take the police 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: to to task, go to the complaint Police complaints authority. 15 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: That's where you take your complaint. Don't have a formal enquirum. 16 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: And these people with a mongrel mob and really by 17 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Labor throwing its weight behind others in the political spectrum, 18 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: really I don't know where they think they're going to 19 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: end up. In the Maldi Party. 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: It's a weird thing because it is a weird cause 21 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: to champion. 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: Isn't it. It's just weird. 23 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, Now what do you make of Luxeon's performance 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: this morning where he didn't know anything about conversations about 25 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: the use of force outside boot camps when he was 26 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: part of those conversations. 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: Well, of course he did know, and maybe he'd forgotten, 28 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: who knows, But look, it was very much to the four. 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: In parliament this afternoon there was a leaked ministerial document 30 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: from the Children's Commissioner Current Tour's offers that showed force 31 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: would be able to be used at these camps, and 32 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: that was seen as terrible by the Green Party's Timotha Paul, 33 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: who obtained that document. She said the government's proposal was scary. 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: It's the use of force against these young people who 35 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: have committed we've got to remember serious crimes that seem 36 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: to upset but Paul, but certainly not Current. 37 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 3: Sure does she support for profit organizations being able to 38 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 3: run military style academies and use force against young people. 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: It is the power to use minimum force as reasonably requiet. 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm proud of the fact we've managed to step up 41 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 4: a pilot, have ten young people have a chanced to 42 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 4: turn their lives around and invest in making sure they 43 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: have every opportunity to be the best that they can be. 44 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 4: I'm proud of that, and I'm looking forward to seeing 45 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 4: many more children have that opportunity. 46 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: I'd say, heir to that, but not happy to leave 47 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: it alone. Labors will a gen prime. She fired another 48 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: question and got more than she gave. 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: Does she agree with the advice from ordering a Tamaiti 50 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: key officials that the provision of powers to use force 51 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 3: may result in harm if not used appropriately? And if not, 52 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: why not? 53 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 4: Yes, mister speaker, that's why it must be used appropriately. 54 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: The whole point is making sure we mitigate those risks. 55 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: You get in a car, you put on a seat pal, 56 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: you get in a boat, you put on a life jacket. 57 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 4: This is about us giving the young people the life 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 4: jacket and the seatbelt they need to better their lives. 59 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: Yep, fair enough too. And look I just looked up. 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: To qualify for these boot camps, these young angels that 61 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: shouldn't be touched must have committed at least two serious 62 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: crimes are carrying a sentence of ten years or more. 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: No, perfectly that's serious, yep, perfectly. Well we have children, yeah, okay, 64 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: So Benjamin Doyle has been sworn in to replace our 65 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: friend Darlene. 66 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: He has and look called the old fashioned. And I 67 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: thought about Rob Muldoon, dare I say it when he 68 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: owed into the house this afternoon to be sworn And 69 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: I mean Muldoon would be turning in his sky, his 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: star in the sky if he was witnessing what happened today. 71 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: In terms of dress, I must say Benjamin Doyle is 72 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: the first non binary MP in New Zealand's history. Now 73 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: he strode in essentially in a skirt and a sort 74 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: of a blousey top and a Palestinian flag as an 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: accessory draped over his arm, and a rather interesting looking hat. 76 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: And I looked at kind of like I looked Atavid 77 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: David Siemol's face and his jaw was a gog as 78 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: this man. 79 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: Strad to be sworn anklet socks and Doc Martins. 80 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: The little tattoo down near the ankle. But look, he 81 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: said he's looking forward to representing Maldy because he his 82 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: part Scottish as well. I think it was a kilt, No, 83 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: it was not a kilt. 84 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: It he's very kilty. 85 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Look I looked at it very closely, so astounded I 86 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 2: had to look at it closely. He said he's looking 87 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: forward to representing Maldy and queer voices in Scott's in Parliament. 88 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: And Scott's he's looking forward to Britain and queer voice. 89 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, I just thought, because I thought you said 90 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: he's part Scottish, so I think. 91 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 2: He admitted to being intimidated by the structure of Parliament 92 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: in an interview this morning. He said it's a colonial 93 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: institution and as someone who's an advocate for Maldy and 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: who's really upfront with his feelings, he most certainly is 95 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: about the institution and racism and white white supremacy. He 96 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: feels it quite confronting. Well, you know he's come to 97 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: Parliament with a great attitude. You will be pleased to hear. 98 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: Hither he admitted that he doesn't want to become Prime Minister. 99 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 2: Bring back darn. 100 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: Your slim chance of that, I was say, being a 101 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Green MV. 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