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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin to find the real story. Or

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Speaker 1: it's Ryan Bridge on hither du for ce Ellen Drive

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Speaker 1: with One New Zealand let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 2: They'd be good afternoon at the seven after for Todd

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Speaker 2: McLay on the tariffs this afternoon plus the Trump Insider,

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Speaker 2: the former US ambassador who is now coaching our incoming

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Speaker 2: US ambassador. He gives us the lowdown, bad Bath and

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Speaker 2: beyond find big Bucks. Today we'll find out why Triciusen

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Speaker 2: and Josie Bagani are on the huddle and Kanye's nude

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Speaker 2: girlfriend at the Grammys. I've seen the unpixelated photos so

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Speaker 2: that you don't have.

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Speaker 3: To Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: In the next few weeks, we should get a political

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Speaker 2: poll from TV inst And here's a prediction for you.

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Speaker 2: I'll ask voters if they think the government should it's

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Speaker 2: it'll last. Voters. I should say whether they think the

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Speaker 2: government should sell off state owned assets. Do you agree

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Speaker 2: with the government selling public assets or something like that?

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Speaker 2: And here's another prediction for you. The majority of Kiwis

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Speaker 2: will say no, and the media will then go on

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Speaker 2: a rampage against asset sales and tell us that kiwis

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Speaker 2: hate them. Another prediction, just while we hear the unions

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Speaker 2: will get involved. They'll fire out press releases, they'll put

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Speaker 2: up billboards, they'll tell us that Seymour and Luxon are

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Speaker 2: going to sell off the family silver and that will

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Speaker 2: all be worse off, etc. We've seen this before. Another prediction,

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Speaker 2: will go ahead. Why Two reasons. One, we're not ready

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Speaker 2: because those pole questions are stupid. I've got a real

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Speaker 2: problem with them. In fact, I was quite exercised at

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Speaker 2: The pole questions are stupid, and here's why they don't

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Speaker 2: example for you, local councils run around shouting from their

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Speaker 2: moral high horses about cycle ways. And they do this

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Speaker 2: community engagement and the polls and the surveys consistently support

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Speaker 2: the idea of more cycle ways. But when you ask people,

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Speaker 2: comments from the people online, there's visceral hatred about cycle ways.

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Speaker 2: It's all about the question you ask. Would you like

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Speaker 2: more space for safe cycling in your suburb?

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Speaker 2: Yes, please, that sounds lovely. Why not would you like

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Speaker 2: think I'll be fine. Same principle goes with asset sales.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you ask somebody, do you want to

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Speaker 2: What will we have left? But would you like to

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Speaker 2: Lovely idea. The government owns half a trillion dollars worth

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Speaker 3: After four Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Right, Teenagers, if you've got one, you might know about

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Really good. Thank you. Is this something that you're

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Speaker 2: What you mentioned that people should young people should sort

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when I my first job, I think was when

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Speaker 5: I have no So many university leavers this year who've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kate, thank you very much to that, Kate Ross.

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Speaker 2: These swivel careers who looks after help seventeen to twenty

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Speaker 2: Some people expect everything when they leave school. They expect

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Speaker 2: It sounds to me like this particular individual was willing

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Speaker 2: Nine two ninet two is the number detext What was

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Speaker 2: of feedback on this Getting your first job, Angela says

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Speaker 2: she's an employer. Many school leavers eliminate themselves. This is

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Speaker 2: interesting because they can't say that they are a non

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Speaker 2: smoker or non vapor which is a requirement for employment

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Speaker 2: from Rapell. Honestly, first teenagers need to get a job

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Speaker 2: they don't necessarily want, like washing dishes at your local cafe.

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock tonight on News talk ZBB. Hey Jason, could

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Speaker 2: I ride night Phille at Woolworth's for me?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 2: What did that pay?

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Speaker 6: Is it not a lot?

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Speaker 7: Not a lot? Back at eighty six mot.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you to Bob and ten pence or something.

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Speaker 7: I'm not that long ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you get it? Was it through a friend?

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Speaker 2: Because I got mine?

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: I basically took all my brother's jobs, my older brother.

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Speaker 2: Once he would leave one, I would take that one.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of how it worked for me. And Neff

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Speaker 9: Well, friend at school said hey, I do this, come

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Speaker 2: It's the good hard work, right. The NFL is bringing

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: They've been looking to expand their international presence in recent years.

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Speaker 9: They've been to the likes of London, Brazil, Germany. Next season,

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Speaker 9: I think they're going to Real Madrids Stadium in Spain

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Speaker 1: Nothing, recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.

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Speaker 3: It's Ryan Bridge on Hither duple see Alan drive.

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Speaker 2: Joy joy jolly, come on, you don't come home good

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Speaker 2: Joe Lean by Beyonce from the album Cowboy Carter. It's

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Speaker 3: It's the World Wires on news Dogs, Eddy.

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Speaker 2: Drive, trade walls on Trump hit Mexico, Canada and China.

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Speaker 2: Canada's hit back. Mexico is about to and China is strategizing.

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Speaker 2: Here is Trudeau Lake the American Terris.

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Speaker 6: Our response will also be far reaching.

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Speaker 10: And include every day items such as American Beer Line, Bourbon,

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Speaker 2: Floodwaters have been rising for the third day in a

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Speaker 2: row in North Queensland. One woman has died in the flooding.

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Speaker 2: Towns have been evacuated and more than ten thousand properties

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Speaker 11: It's been an amazingly monsoonal event, and we just want

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Speaker 2: Finally, this afternoon Ozzie golfer Jason Day has been criticized

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Speaker 12: I think if you look at most golfing attire, Ryan like,

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Speaker 2: But it's the same style of clothing. It's just loose fishing.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: Oliver Patterson six pr pers Line presented with US. Oliver,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Good to have you on GID

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Speaker 2: A Ryan. What's the latest on the floods in North Queensland.

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Speaker 6: Oh, that deluge is just quite unbelievable.

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Speaker 13: Six months of rain they are saying within three days,

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Speaker 13: Queensland is really suffering under this monsoonal rainfall that you

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Speaker 13: four hundred people are currently taking shelter in six evacuations.

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Speaker 13: Now you've got major supermarkets obviously closed and or isolated

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Speaker 13: that many residents there in Far North Queensland are going

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Speaker 6: So just keep your fingers and toes crossed. Everyone will

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Speaker 2: And the federal government that's on the issue of terrorism

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Speaker 13: Yeah they are, and obviously parliaments about the seat and

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Speaker 13: As you mentioned, they're particularly in Sydney and Melbourne.

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Speaker 6: There are space andy Semitic Gatashi actually.

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Speaker 6: People are looking for more leadership from the front.

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Speaker 13: a good two and a half hours away from the

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Speaker 13: Sydney CBD.

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Speaker 6: On Australia Day, of all days.

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Speaker 13: She summons a car which, by the way, under the

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Speaker 13: rules you can use a ministerial car for private purposes.

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Speaker 13: The car drives from Sydney to the Hunt of Valley,

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Speaker 13: takes her and some friends, including the Housing minister whose

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Speaker 13: name is Rose Jackson, out for lunch. And it cost

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Speaker 13: seven hundred and fifty bucks. Right, that's what it costs

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Speaker 13: to hire this car just so she could go with

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Speaker 13: her girlfriends to have a boozy lunch. Now, this is

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Speaker 13: a cost of seven hundred and fifty bucks. As I said,

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Speaker 13: thirteen hour shift on Australia day, a four hundred and

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Speaker 13: forty six kilometers round trip, just so the driver could

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Speaker 13: take her from Hunter Valley out to a Hunter Valley winery.

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Speaker 13: As I pose the question, Ryan, what does it take

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Speaker 13: to get sacked anymore when you're a minister of the crowd.

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Speaker 13: I mean, anybody would say this doesn't pass the pub test,

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Speaker 13: but on Astralia Day long weekend she has to be kidding.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what sort of cars they get show

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Speaker 2: from round them?

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Speaker 6: I think she had no.

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Speaker 13: This one was a Kia Carni or you know Keya. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: one of those kind of minibuses if you like the

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Speaker 13: seven seaters. Nothing too looking, but non you imagine being

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Speaker 13: the driver, imagineing that call Ryan, how you gotta go

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Speaker 13: pick up you know, this minister up in the hut

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Speaker 13: of valley and take her out to lunch.

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Speaker 6: It'd be spitting chips.

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Speaker 2: Imagine the chat on the way home. Hey, thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for that. Oliver Oliver Peterson XPR Perth Live

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Speaker 2: presenter with us with all the news you need to

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Speaker 2: know from Australia. Eighteen minutes away from five, we're trying

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Speaker 2: to get hold of Disley Simpson. Is she going to announce?

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Speaker 2: She was apparently pondering it said, oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: that was just a joke. My son hiring the you know,

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Speaker 2: licensing the website Disley FORMEA dot co dot MZ However,

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Speaker 2: she has since said that she's she's not saying no

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Speaker 2: at this point. So is Wayne Brown going to force

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Speaker 2: her hand? As I said on Friday, I think it's

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Speaker 2: a terrible thing if she does this, because if you're

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Speaker 2: somebody who's on the right of politics, then you're going

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Speaker 2: to split the vote. Disley Simpson associated with the National Party,

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Speaker 2: Wayne Brown man of the right. More than anything, You're

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Speaker 2: going to split the vote and it in comes some

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Speaker 2: Johnny come lately from the left. Michael Wood, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean to take your pick seventeen to five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with centrics, credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 2: Certaindy, you're on news talk z B. It's quarter to five,

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Speaker 2: so you apparently Simpson thinking about running from here of Auckland,

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Speaker 2: and Bernie has texted and say, hey, Ryan, has Michael

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Speaker 2: would because I said maybe he'd come in and deal

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Speaker 2: with the vote splitting on as Michael would sold those

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Speaker 2: airports shares yet and probably not. Barry Soaper is here. Hey, Barry, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: see you.

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Speaker 7: It was nice to be back for such a long break.

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Speaker 2: I must say you're looking actually quite festive with your

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Speaker 2: summer shirt on. You're almost as bad as Chris Hopkins who.

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Speaker 7: Came back because Christmas. That's my problem.

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Speaker 2: Hey, do you think Dear's going to run?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think she will, almost.

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Speaker 2: Certain, but it's she'll split the vote waiting.

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Speaker 7: I think. I just hope that she learns to put

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Speaker 7: the sunglasses on her nose and not on the top

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Speaker 7: of her head. It seems rain, hail or shine, she's

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Speaker 7: got those bloody sunglasses on top of her head.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to spend fifteen hundred dollars on a

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Speaker 2: pair of sunglasses, Berry, everybody needs to see that, probably, hey,

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Speaker 2: Lux And finally telling he who's going to be on

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Speaker 2: White Tonguey Day.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's interesting because an Akarah, I mean not known

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Speaker 7: for violent protest against the treaty on Treaty Day, but

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Speaker 7: he's going to be there with the Governor General. Cindi

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Speaker 7: Kiro is going down there as well. And Akia has

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Speaker 7: a population of under eight hundred, but it is the

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Speaker 7: oldest town in Canterbury, was settled by Europeans in eighteen forty,

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Speaker 7: the same year as we know that the treaty was signed.

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Speaker 7: But he's not going to get much of a fight

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Speaker 7: with Naitahu, who will be hosting them in the small town.

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Speaker 7: But it's an interesting choice, isn't it when you consider that. Look,

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Speaker 7: there are other places that maybe you could get a

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Speaker 7: bit of profile and a bit more debate, but that's

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Speaker 7: going to get in Akara.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what he doesn't want it. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: basically running to the other side of of the country. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know I'm running.

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Speaker 7: But I've got to say. The way the people are

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Speaker 7: talking up at white Tongey as they all always do,

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Speaker 7: a head of it, saying, look, politicians, reception is going

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Speaker 7: to be hot. We're told by a man called Tippany,

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Speaker 7: who is one of the organizers up there, and they

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Speaker 7: warn the politicians every time before they go there that

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Speaker 7: they're going to get a rowdy reception. If you're a politician,

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Speaker 7: why would you bother? Winston Peters is going. David Seymour,

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Speaker 7: the architect of the Treaty Settlement's bill, he's going to

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Speaker 7: be there, and good luck to him. I think he

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Speaker 7: should go on front up and this has got exactly

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Speaker 7: what David Seymour wants, and that's debate on the treaty.

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Speaker 7: So good thing.

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Speaker 2: This is Raeli newspaper, so we were talking about this

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Speaker 2: last week. It was the visit of visa and the

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Speaker 2: soldier coming here apparently denied entry on the basis of

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Speaker 2: being a soldier. Whatever these read newspaper now correcting the story.

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Speaker 7: Well, it took them a long time, didn't it. I

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Speaker 7: mean it caused an international uproar, which is extraordinary for

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Speaker 7: a story when you consider that in his if you're

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Speaker 7: a male or a female, you're required to do military

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Speaker 7: service of up to thirty six months. So everybody that

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Speaker 7: comes here from Israel above a certain age will have

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Speaker 7: done military service somewhere, So why should we put them

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Speaker 7: to any other test. I think that argument has sort

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Speaker 7: of been lost in this whole thing. And Winston Peters

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Speaker 7: has been accused of trump Ism for saying it was

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Speaker 7: fake news. Well, indeed, it was fake news. They said

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Speaker 7: that when they must have known full well that New

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Speaker 7: Zealand had not changed its visa requirements for anyone, and

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Speaker 7: neither it'joed for Palestinians nor for Israeli.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that kind of story has the potential to

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Speaker 2: do real damage to our reputation in America. Right, And

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Speaker 2: when I saw Ted Cruz oh treating about it, I thought, Oh.

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Speaker 7: Shed cru saying we're not ollies. Well, first information. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we've always been seen as very very close friends until

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Speaker 7: God Eliza Rice came and battered Islands Winston Peters at

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Speaker 7: one stage and she said, we're back to the ally

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Speaker 7: status again. Well if that, if Ted Cruise has got

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Speaker 7: his way, we're not even there yet.

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Speaker 2: I know, changes to the benefit system, the traffic light system,

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Speaker 2: we've had a couple of changes.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and look they're not that significant really when you

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Speaker 7: think about it. They're going to there's a bill before

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Speaker 7: Parliament at the moment. These changes will be part of that.

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Speaker 7: And look, if you're unemployed, you should be off your

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Speaker 7: butt out looking for work. So anybody that's a naysayer

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Speaker 7: on this one, I think you know they're pushing the

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Speaker 7: wrong barrow if you like. And of course they're always ah,

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Speaker 7: you've got Riccardo Mendez March. He's having the standoff with

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Speaker 7: Shane Jones at the moment. The Green MP says it's

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Speaker 7: another punitive measure that would punish beneficiaries deeper and push

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Speaker 7: them deeper into hardship.

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Speaker 2: See does he really think that they're doing it as punishment. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's designed to try and help them to

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Speaker 2: get off the thing.

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Speaker 7: To apply for jobs, to do some training. It was

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Speaker 7: interesting you saying, I think you had the same apprenticeship

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Speaker 7: as me. It sounds like the paper run. I had

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Speaker 7: a paper run. The gore end sign I used to deliver.

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Speaker 7: It used to be called the Materian sign on those days.

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Speaker 7: Then I went on and I did the milk run,

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Speaker 7: running around with the milk bottles, keep fit. And then

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Speaker 7: I worked in a tobacco shop, and then in J. T.

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Speaker 7: Sharp and Sons, a men'swear store. All this was available

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Speaker 7: to us before we left school.

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Speaker 3: I loved it.

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Speaker 7: It was great.

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Speaker 2: There you're good.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 2: So you've got to start somewhere, don't you. And you

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Speaker 2: start close to home, which is you know, not just

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Speaker 2: the paper run. Hey, thanks for that, Barry.

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Speaker 7: Nice to be back.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you back, and great to see you.

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Speaker 2: Barry Soper. News Talks here, be senior political correspondent. It

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Speaker 2: is nine to five on News Talks here, but don't

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Speaker 2: forget Todd McClay. After five, we're going to ask them

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Speaker 2: all about the so called t trade war between the States, Mexico, China, Canada.

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Speaker 2: What does it mean for us?

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 14: We wes tariffs are underway from Mexico, Canada and China,

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Speaker 14: with more to count form of trade negotiated. Charles finnedback

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Speaker 14: with US.

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Speaker 15: I think it is more extreme than what we saw

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Speaker 15: during the first Trump presidency.

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Speaker 14: Where do we fit in irony being Let's announced that

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Speaker 14: suddenly they're the second biggest trading partner. We've got beating

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Speaker 14: out Australia now and we don't even have a deal.

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Speaker 15: Luckily, there's been no talk of tariff's being composed on

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Speaker 15: New Zealand. There is still talk about a global tariff,

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Speaker 15: but that would be very problematic in the US law.

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Speaker 15: I don't think it can be implemented by executive order.

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Speaker 15: At the breast for US in the short term is

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Speaker 15: that there's going to be a whole lot of trade

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Speaker 15: clad's distructed, but there will be some opportunities there as well.

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Speaker 14: Back tomorrow at six am, the mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 14: the Rain drove of the last news talk z B.

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Speaker 2: Five to five inflation, So we had the CPI number

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Speaker 2: you know about that. Today we got inflation from Stats

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Speaker 2: in z It's called household living cost Price index and

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Speaker 2: this looks at different groups because obviously, when inflation happens,

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Speaker 2: we give you the you know it's two and a

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Speaker 2: half percent whatever that's on average across a basket of goods,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't tell you how it will affect you and

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Speaker 2: your household. So what this does is break it up

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Speaker 2: into thirteen different groups. So we know that the highest

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Speaker 2: earners their inflation for the year was two point seven percent,

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Speaker 2: the average three percent, and the worst affected three point

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Speaker 2: six percent. Now that was your pensioness, so their inflation

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Speaker 2: was three point six percent. Insurance, rates and rent made

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Speaker 2: up the biggest increase for them. Then you've got your

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Speaker 2: beneficiaries three point three percent. Biggest contributors for them rent

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Speaker 2: four and a half percent, then cigarettes and tobacco seven

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Speaker 2: point seven percent, then rates, and for Mardi it was

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Speaker 2: up three point one percent. Their biggest contributors rent, interest, cigarettes,

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Speaker 2: and tobacco, because of course the taxes on those go

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Speaker 2: up every year, so it's always sort of creeps its

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Speaker 2: way in there. Anyway, the highest earners two point seven percent.

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Speaker 2: For them, interest, insurance and rates unsurprisingly made up the

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Speaker 2: largest or worthy largest contributor to their increase. So there

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Speaker 2: you go, and the CPA, because the CPI just gives

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Speaker 2: you the number that for the whole country doesn't really

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Speaker 2: mean much. This kind of gives you some context to it,

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Speaker 2: which is quite interesting. Todd McLay is next. This is

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Speaker 2: the pop singer Sabrina Carpenter and she's just got herself

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Speaker 2: a few awards at the Grammys today. Her album Shortened

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Speaker 2: Sweet one Best Pop Vocal Album and this song Espresso

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Speaker 2: Best Solo Performance. Todd McLay next, and.

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Speaker 16: What's the best.

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Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on Heather Duplicy allan drive with one New

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Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be good evening. It's five oh seven. Great to

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Speaker 2: have your company this evening. The New Zealand stock market

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Speaker 2: was down about one and a half percent almost two

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Speaker 2: percent at low point today. This reacting to Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. The New Zealand company

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Speaker 2: Fisher and Pipel Healthcare announced its costs would increase as

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Speaker 2: a result. That's because about forty percent of their products

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Speaker 2: are made in Mexico for the US market, so they

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Speaker 2: are affected by that. This she has finished the day

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Speaker 2: down six point eight percent. Top acclaims the Trade minister

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Speaker 2: he's with me, good evening, Ryan, heyst Did you expect

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Speaker 2: him to go as far as he did.

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Speaker 17: Well, Look, I think it's fair to say it was

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Speaker 17: campaigned on, it's been pretty well signaled, so not surprised

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Speaker 17: by it at all. Twenty five percent tariffs against Mexico

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Speaker 17: and against Canada, a lesser amount for China. The very

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Speaker 17: interesting thing, I think, and this is probably nuanced as

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Speaker 17: he said, these will go on unless so. The President

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Speaker 17: of America has said he is concerned about what's happening

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Speaker 17: at their borders with those two countries, and it's obviously

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Speaker 17: he wants them to engage and to make some many

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Speaker 17: full changes there. But in the meantime they're facing tariffs which,

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Speaker 17: whilst we're not directly captured, is going to have an

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Speaker 17: impact upon some New Zealand businesses.

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Speaker 2: Canada, Canada and Mexico and China are obviously speaking out

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Speaker 2: complaining Will we support them in their complies?

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Speaker 17: Well, firstly, we're focused on what's happening in our relationship

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Speaker 17: with the US and any impact that there could be,

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Speaker 17: you know, for New Zealand exporters, I think it's important

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Speaker 17: to note that we've always had a very positive, constructive

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Speaker 17: relationship with US. The difference in our trade with America

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Speaker 17: compared to those three countries is it's a very well balanced.

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Speaker 17: We buy and sell very similar amounts of trade and

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Speaker 17: investment in both directions, and therefore I think we're in

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Speaker 17: a very very different camp and they are. But there's

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Speaker 17: been a lot of contact at official level with the

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Speaker 17: new administration. Prime Minister Luxen has spoken with President Trump directly,

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Speaker 17: which was very constructive, and the Foreign Minister recently had

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Speaker 17: ongoing and detailed conversations with his counterparts. So we are

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Speaker 17: talking to them about the importance of the relationship and

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Speaker 17: how balanced the trade is, and we're just going to

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Speaker 17: keep doing that for New Zealand exports.

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Speaker 2: We'd be stupid to join forces in sing in chorus

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Speaker 2: with Canada, or with Mexico or with China. Albeit we

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Speaker 2: support free trade because we don't want to make ourselves

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Speaker 2: a target, do we? But at some point, you know,

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Speaker 2: we remember of the wto China is taking a case

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Speaker 2: there do we have in a position?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, well, we'll wait and see exactly what that case is.

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Speaker 17: I mean, China themselves are doing an investigation and a

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Speaker 17: beef into their market, of which we are providing information

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Speaker 17: because we're an export of beef there.

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Speaker 18: I think.

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Speaker 17: I think in as far as the W is concerned,

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Speaker 17: there have always been issues around trade. They come up

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Speaker 17: a lot, and they come up very very often, and

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Speaker 17: ultimately where it's in New Zealand's interest and we have

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Speaker 17: a role to play or we're involved, we do take

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Speaker 17: our position to speak up to today though our exporters

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Speaker 17: are asking us to focus on that relationship with the

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Speaker 17: US and make sure that we not only have reached

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Speaker 17: out to the new administration, we are promoting the very

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Speaker 17: fair and balanced way that New Zealand trades with the US.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get a meeting there soon, but they

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Speaker 2: are with lux and do you think or with.

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Speaker 17: This, well, there are opportunities during the course of this

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Speaker 17: year in as far as trades concerned. My counterpart, the

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Speaker 17: USTR Trade representative career, he's not in place yet, he's

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Speaker 17: still going to go through the confirmation and so in

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Speaker 17: the moment that he has I have the ability to

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Speaker 17: talk to him. Interestingly, he was part of the Trump

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Speaker 17: administration and trade last time President Trump was the president,

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Speaker 17: I was a Trade Minister then as well, and we

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Speaker 17: faced similar sorts of things that were tariffs against Mexico

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Speaker 17: and America and Mexico and Canada. Then you remember they

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Speaker 17: pulled out of the CPTPP that you know, New Zealand's

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Speaker 17: the forefront with We were able to build a good

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Speaker 17: relationship with that administration, and again based upon New Zealand

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Speaker 17: respecting rules and actually you know, the trade being very

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Speaker 17: very balanced. We'll be doing everything we can to make

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Speaker 17: sure they're aware of that of the US and as

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Speaker 17: soon as my counterparty is confirmed, me seeking at the

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Speaker 17: very least a good positive telephone conversation with him.

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Speaker 2: I've got Scott Brown on, former US Ambassador to New

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Speaker 2: Zealand from you know, former US ambassadors to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: He's coming on the show after six and he's told

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Speaker 2: me just before we came on, he said he thinks

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Speaker 2: we should be going for an FTA even with Trump

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Speaker 2: and because of that balance of trade that you've been

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Speaker 2: talking about.

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Speaker 17: Well, we're free traders and we believe in a rules

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Speaker 17: based approach. You've seen last year we've done two deals

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Speaker 17: very very quickly, in surprise people actually with the UAE,

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Speaker 17: and that one was the golf states the GCC. You know,

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Speaker 17: after a long time still talking.

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Speaker 2: You'd still push, you know, even though it's Trump, and

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Speaker 2: even though he likes a tariff, you're still push for

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Speaker 2: an FDA.

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Speaker 17: Well, what I was going to say is the likelihood

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Speaker 17: of an FDA with the US is not strong. We'll

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Speaker 17: be talking about ways to grow to a trade that's

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Speaker 17: beneficial for the two economies. I don't expect we would

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Speaker 17: have an FDA, so it's probably not going to be

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Speaker 17: the first thing I'll raise with them when I get

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Speaker 17: my call in.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, Todd. Todd and played the trade minister.

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Speaker 2: It's just gone twelve after five. Ryan Bridge, bed Bath

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Speaker 2: and Beyond Being Naughty fined two hundred and thirty thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars for selling children's pajamas and hot water bottles that

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Speaker 2: didn't meet safety requirements. So this is the story. The

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Speaker 2: non compliant pajamas and hot water bottles were sold between

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Speaker 2: March and October of twenty two. Here is the really

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Speaker 2: interesting bit, the reasons these products were so dangerous. The

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Speaker 2: pajamas didn't have fire hazard information printed on them gasp,

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Speaker 2: and the hot water bottles didn't include any instructions about

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Speaker 2: safe usage and storage. The Comments Commission took this case

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Speaker 2: to court. Vanessa Horn is the commission General manager of Competition,

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Speaker 2: Fair Trading and Credit, and she's with me this evening,

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Speaker 2: good evening, Hi, Ryan, Is this serious?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It is. So.

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Speaker 8: You know, parliaments decided there were a few products safety

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Speaker 8: standards on some consumer products that particularly those ones that

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Speaker 8: have a detrimental impact for children, and night wears one

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Speaker 8: of those things, and so we do take it very seriously.

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Speaker 2: What is that So the pajamas didn't have a fire

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Speaker 2: hazard label printed on them? Are they a fire hazardicular?

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Speaker 2: They particularly?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 6: So yeah, your bag on.

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Speaker 8: So so there's a NightWare standard that particularly focuses on

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Speaker 8: the pajamas that kids wear, and there's a label requirement,

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Speaker 8: mainly for parents, so that they know that that particular

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Speaker 8: pair of pajamas might be more flammable than another. The

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Speaker 8: reason why that's really important is that we still have

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Speaker 8: quite a lot of open fireplaces in New Zealand and

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Speaker 8: we want to make sure that those kids who you know,

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Speaker 8: have got more flammable pajamas, you know, they know not

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Speaker 8: to go next to the fireplace in winter time.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, And what about the other issue, the hot

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Speaker 2: water bottles, no instructions about safe usage and storage. I mean,

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Speaker 2: is that not obvious? Fill it with hot water, you know,

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Speaker 2: be careful it's hot water.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really interesting. And bed Bath and Beyond sold

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Speaker 8: twenty three thousand of these that in that period a

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Speaker 8: couple of winters ago. So again, the hot water bottle

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Speaker 8: standard basically tries to remind people to, you know, check

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Speaker 8: that hot water bottle at the start of each winter,

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Speaker 8: sort of like what we all do with electric blankets

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Speaker 8: as well, to make sure that that hot water bowl.

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Speaker 2: Is still safe to use.

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Speaker 8: We often here at the start of winter, particularly old

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Speaker 8: people who have you know, might use their hot water

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Speaker 8: bottle from the previous year or maybe even from five

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Speaker 8: years ago, and it's warped and that the hot water

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Speaker 8: goes straight through it and they get burnt.

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Speaker 2: Vanessa, thank you for that. The Commerce Commission. This is

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Speaker 2: Vanessa Horn. She took the case. Commerce Commission General Manager

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Speaker 2: of Competition, Fair Trading and Credit took the case against

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Speaker 2: bed Bath and Beyond. They are now bad Bath and

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Speaker 2: Beyond and they have been fined two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Someone's turned up naked at the Grammys upgrades.

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Speaker 2: The Grammys will get to the half not even half naked,

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Speaker 2: completely naked woman at the Grammys in a second but

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Speaker 2: they're under the underway in Hollywood right now. Number of

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Speaker 2: artists have taken to the stage. This is Sabrina Carpenter,

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Speaker 2: who won Best Pop Vocal Album. Beyonce, she's there, She's

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Speaker 2: proven well there's nothing she can't do, including winning Best

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Speaker 2: Country Album. Here's a reaction.

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Speaker 16: I think sometimes genre is a cold word to keep

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Speaker 16: us in our place as artists, and I just want

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Speaker 16: to encourage people to do what they're passionate about.

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Speaker 2: Beyonce should win everything because she can both sing and

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Speaker 2: dance at the same time, which half of these people,

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Speaker 2: including Taylor Swift, can't. But I'll move on Best New

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Speaker 2: Artists went to Chapel Rohn. Is that how you say it?

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Speaker 2: She sent a strong message to the record labels.

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Speaker 19: I told myself, if I ever won a Grammy and

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Speaker 19: I got to stand up here in front of the

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Speaker 19: most powerful people in music, I would demand that labels

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Speaker 19: and the industry profiting millions of dollars off of artists,

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Speaker 2: Right host Trevenoah made a special mention of the LA wildfires.

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Speaker 20: Everybody in Los Angeles and building tonight, you know, working

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Speaker 20: on stage and off knows somebody who has lost their home,

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Speaker 20: their business, or the lives that they knew less than.

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Speaker 2: A month ago.

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Speaker 20: And I just want everybody to remember what this moment was.

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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, it is worth remembering. But the big award

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Speaker 2: of the night Album of the Year, we're not sure

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Speaker 2: about you. Sean Mandel is our entertainment reporter in La

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Speaker 2: Sean Giddey, gooday, how are you?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Have we got that top award that gong

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Speaker 2: yet No, we.

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Speaker 21: Are waiting on it right now. It is going to

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Speaker 21: be any moment. We've just heard some big categories beginning

873
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Speaker 21: to come out. As you mentioned, Beyonce had a big

874
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Speaker 21: moment tonight, big surprising moment, winning Country Album of the Year.

875
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Speaker 21: She seemed very much genuinely shocked. So that was a

876
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Speaker 21: really heartwarming moment. And we're going to be waiting to

877
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Speaker 21: see here who takes home that top prize in our

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Speaker 21: the year.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of tops, somebody turned up without one all bottoms

880
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Speaker 2: for that matter, Kanye West's girlfriend. Apparently they were kicked

881
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Speaker 2: out even though he was nominated for an award. Can

882
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Speaker 2: you talk us through this?

883
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Speaker 21: Yeah, so really interesting turn of events this evening. Some

884
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Speaker 21: different conflicting reporting in terms of what happened about why

885
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Speaker 21: they were escorted out. No official word yet from the

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Speaker 21: Recording Academy, but the moment occurred after they walked the

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Speaker 21: red carpet with Bianca Sensory, Kanye West's girlfriend known for

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Speaker 21: oftentimes wearing let's call it daring fashion or pieces of

889
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Speaker 21: it anyway, and not wearing very much in fact on

890
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Speaker 21: the red carpet today. So that definitely got a lot

891
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Speaker 21: of heads turning. But it's not something that we've seen

892
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Speaker 21: yet in We didn't see it in the Grammy Hall

893
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Speaker 21: in the Crypto dot Com Arena in downtown la As.

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Speaker 21: They did not make it into that part of the show, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, because you know, to be honest, the Grammy's

896
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Speaker 2: all of these awards, it's almost like the goal is

897
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Speaker 2: to wear as little as possible. Anyway, I thought, well,

898
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Speaker 2: in some ways, I thought, credit to her for just

899
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Speaker 2: just doing it what everybody else clearly wants to do,

900
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Speaker 2: and just take all of your clothes off.

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Speaker 21: I mean she leaned in.

902
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Speaker 2: She certainly did, and I mean she looked great doing it.

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Speaker 2: So good on her, all right, Sean, have we got

904
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Speaker 2: an album of the unit yet? Not yet? We'll have

905
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Speaker 2: to come back.

906
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Speaker 18: No, not yet.

907
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Speaker 21: We're still about eight minutes out from the end. That's

908
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Speaker 21: of everything keeps going on time, So we are still

909
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Speaker 21: a few minutes out there, but shortly we will be.

910
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Speaker 21: We will be getting a winner, and you know, all

911
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Speaker 21: eyes are on Beyonce. She is the front runner right now,

912
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Speaker 21: so it'll be I think a bigger The biggest surprise

913
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Speaker 21: will be if Beyonce doesn't win.

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Speaker 2: Good to hear Sean Sean Mandel is that entertainment reporter

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Speaker 2: in l A great to have you on Beyonce. We'll

916
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Speaker 2: be wearing clothes because she's a class act. I just

917
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Speaker 2: I do think, you know, especially when you're talking about

918
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Speaker 2: pop music, that ability to both sing and dance at

919
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Speaker 2: the same time and breathe and do it all with conviction.

920
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Speaker 2: I think that that's worth an award. Taylor Swift sits

921
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Speaker 2: down most of the time. I mean, honestly. Twenty three

922
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Speaker 2: after five News Talks.

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Speaker 1: MB Informed Inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 1: Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: News Talks NB.

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Speaker 2: Five twenty six. So as we previewed on Friday, the

927
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Speaker 2: trade war has kicked off. Trump's hit Canada, Mexico, and

928
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Speaker 2: to a lesser extent, China. So far, Canada has hit

929
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Speaker 2: back Mexico's promising to do the same, though as it

930
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Speaker 2: hasn't identified any targets, and it won't stop there because

931
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Speaker 2: if you read his executive orders, Trump has left the

932
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Speaker 2: door open to more retaliation. To the retaliation. This is

933
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: eye for an eye stuff and we all know how

934
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Speaker 2: Trump likes a fight. The real question is who wins

935
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Speaker 2: in a trade war. The answer, of course, is nobody.

936
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Speaker 2: Canadian factories will close. Tariffs will go on every single

937
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Speaker 2: little tiny widget that's imported from these three countries, not

938
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Speaker 2: just finished goods, in services. So the little screw that

939
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Speaker 2: tightens the engine that's assembled in America will go up

940
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Speaker 2: in price as well. So stuff that's made in America

941
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Speaker 2: will increase in price because of what they import to

942
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Speaker 2: put in it. These three countries account for forty percent

943
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Speaker 2: of imports to the United States. Sure it will create

944
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Speaker 2: some local jobs, but you'll then be hit with higher prices.

945
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Speaker 2: America has been the driver of global growth over the

946
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Speaker 2: past few years, so if their demand starts wavering as

947
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Speaker 2: stuff becomes more expensive, and with China and Europe Week

948
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Speaker 2: at the moment, then we will lose. It's why we

949
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Speaker 2: spend the eighties and nineties knocking down tariffs quicker than

950
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Speaker 2: the Berlin Wall. Each country, in theory has a competitive

951
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: advantage in make something. For us. It's been high quality,

952
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: carbon efficient farming as an example. So doing away with

953
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: subsidies and terrorists which distort markets encourages investment, innovation, specialization.

954
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Speaker 2: You get really good at doing something and then selling

955
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Speaker 2: it to the world. Free trade is one of the

956
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Speaker 2: most important economic developments that this country has ever seen.

957
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Speaker 2: And in Trump's world, it's an idea. Sadly that's under threat,

958
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Speaker 2: and that is not a good thing for any of us.

959
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Speaker 3: Cryanbridge.

960
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Speaker 2: Twenty eight minutes after five, We'll take you back to

961
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Speaker 2: the Grammys. This is Kendrick Lamar. He's one Record of

962
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Speaker 2: the Year at the Grammys. Apparently, is this Kendrick Lamar. Oh,

963
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Speaker 2: this is Chapel Roone. I've got the wrong one. Oh,

964
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Speaker 2: this is Chapel Roone. She is your best new artist,

965
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Speaker 2: which is why I've never heard of him before. Twenty

966
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Speaker 2: eight after five News Talks EDB. We're talking Palmi and

967
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Speaker 2: fizzy drinks.

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Speaker 1: Next on the iHeart app and in your car on

969
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Speaker 1: your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on Heather dupers Allen

970
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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected.

971
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Speaker 3: News Talks edber.

972
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Speaker 2: Good Evening, twenty four minutes away from six News Talks V.

973
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Speaker 2: This is rapper Kendrick Lamar. He's one Record of the

974
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Speaker 2: Year at the Grammys. Now that's not the same as

975
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Speaker 2: Album of the Year. We were talking up album of

976
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Speaker 2: the Year earlier. We don't know who that is just yet.

977
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Speaker 2: This is Record of the Year, which is a different award.

978
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Speaker 2: The story is too long to be bothered with, to

979
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Speaker 2: be honest, but his song not Like Us has beaten Beyonce,

980
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Speaker 2: Billie Eilish and even the Beatles to take out the

981
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Speaker 2: major award. Unfortunately, this is not not Like Us? And

982
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Speaker 2: why would we not play you not Like Us? It's

983
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Speaker 2: filled with too many swear words apparently, so it wouldn't

984
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Speaker 2: be appropriate. It is twenty three away.

985
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Speaker 3: From sex Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Palmerston North Mayor Grant Smith has spoken out against a

987
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Speaker 2: proposal to ban the sale of fizzy drinks. It's some

988
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Speaker 2: major sport venues in the city. Council staff put the

989
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Speaker 2: proposal to the council as a way of improving oral

990
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Speaker 2: health in the region. The mayor says people should be

991
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Speaker 2: able to make their own decisions about what they can

992
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Speaker 2: purchase and drink. Now, Brent Barnett, Sorry, Brent Barrett is

993
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Speaker 2: a Palmeston North City councilor and he is with me

994
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Speaker 2: this evening. Hello, Brent, Hey, how are you going good?

995
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Speaker 2: Thank you? Whose mad idea was this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we've taken a proposal out to the community

997
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Speaker 4: and it strengthens a position that we were in in

998
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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen. And the reason for that is that we

999
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Speaker 4: know there's a direct line between sugar and the kind

1000
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Speaker 4: of pressure that comes on our health system through writing

1001
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Speaker 4: to use diabetes, et cetera. We want to see is

1002
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Speaker 4: their community appetite for any kind of change?

1003
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Speaker 2: So do you support the change? Do you support banning

1004
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: you know, a coke zero a coke or a pepsi

1005
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Speaker 2: or whatever the council venues.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to see us find ways to reduce the

1007
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Speaker 4: harm that sugar causes in the community. So I'm open

1008
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Speaker 4: to options there, and I appreciate the community feedback here.

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Speaker 4: It's given me some thinking about some way as we

1010
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Speaker 4: might approach it.

1011
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Speaker 2: But how so, because a lot of people are talking

1012
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 2: about the children and their teeth, the tooth decay. How

1013
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: is stopping someone having a coke at the Palmerston North

1014
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Speaker 2: Convention s into going and fix that problem?

1015
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Speaker 3: Do you think.

1016
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Speaker 4: What it's going to do is a couple of things.

1017
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Speaker 4: It would, if it goes ahead, send a signal out

1018
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: broadly to the community that hey, just another reminder these

1019
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: things aren't the healthiest and that's probably the strongest thing

1020
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 4: that it would do. And obviously it would change what

1021
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Speaker 4: would happen in the venue itself.

1022
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Speaker 2: Aren't you just killing the fun?

1023
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Speaker 4: I think what we're doing at this point is listening

1024
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Speaker 4: to the community. So the communities come back to so

1025
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Speaker 4: what their preferences are. Am I thinking is that we

1026
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Speaker 4: need to listen to that so it won't happen to

1027
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Speaker 4: what eruptions will take because it's like won't.

1028
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Speaker 2: But it's like it's eighty percent again, So if you're listening,

1029
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Speaker 2: then the answer would be a big wouldn't it.

1030
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Speaker 3: Well?

1031
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: I think sometimes what you're faced with is that the

1032
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Speaker 4: right thing isn't always the popular thing. And I'm coming

1033
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Speaker 4: to the meeting with an open minded march and see

1034
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Speaker 4: where the debate goes.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a big one. Thank you very much for that.

1036
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Speaker 2: Nice to have you on the program. That's Brent Barrett.

1037
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Speaker 2: He's the Palmeerston North City councilor sometimes the right thing

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Speaker 2: isn't always the popular thing. Twenty one to six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, Local and

1040
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Speaker 2: Tris Shurson Hurson Willis pr Is with us tonight. Hi Trish, Hi,

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Speaker 2: Ryan and Josie PEGANI child fun Ceo is here too, Hey,

1043
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Speaker 2: Josie Cura, Hellojuda. Good to have you on the show.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with that, should we the fizzy drinks?

1045
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 2: Oh yes, let's Josie. So I get annoyed by this stuff,

1046
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Speaker 2: but I mean I'm quick to anger on, particularly coke zero,

1047
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Speaker 2: which I know wouldn't technically be caught. What are your thoughts?

1048
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Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean one argument is that this is good

1049
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 22: fun for all the family, brought to you by your

1050
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Speaker 22: local organic military gym homeopaths. I mean, it's sort of

1051
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 22: fun police gone extreme. But there's a more important point.

1052
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 22: I think that it's this is just a really bad

1053
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 22: way to address the problem that he thinks he's trying

1054
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Speaker 22: to address. I kids drinking too many fizzy drinks and

1055
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Speaker 22: sweets and sugar and so on. Because if you're going

1056
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Speaker 22: to say that everything bad for you or everything that's

1057
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Speaker 22: not good for you is the equivalent of a cigarette,

1058
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 22: I you should never ever ever have it, then you're

1059
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 22: it's not not going to work.

1060
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Speaker 3: Right.

1061
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Speaker 22: So we're all going to have a fizzy drinks sometimes.

1062
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Speaker 22: And the place that you have it is places like

1063
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 22: sports stadiums, a day out with a family. You know, hey,

1064
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 22: get some chips, get some chippies and have a hot dog,

1065
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 22: and yep, you can have a coke. If you're going

1066
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Speaker 22: to make people feel bad about a treat, then you're

1067
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Speaker 22: not going to get them to go. But business as

1068
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Speaker 22: usual every day. We're not going to have fizzy drinks

1069
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Speaker 22: and takeaways in KFC and whatnot. So yeah, it's just

1070
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Speaker 22: it's just not effects. That's the thing that really gets me.

1071
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Speaker 22: It's like, you're just and he sounds so smug. Oh

1072
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Speaker 22: my god, he sounds so smug. It's not an effective

1073
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Speaker 22: way of dealing with the problem he thinks he wants

1074
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Speaker 22: to deal with.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but sometimes the right thing is not the popular thing.

1076
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Speaker 23: Trish, Yeah, yeah, said every politician who ever got voted out.

1077
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Speaker 23: You know what this isn't This is an idea that's

1078
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Speaker 23: absolutely gone flat, excuse the pun. And what makes me

1079
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Speaker 23: smile here is that obviously these guys on the and

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Speaker 23: woman on the Palmerston North City Council, they have absolutely

1081
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Speaker 23: missed the memo from their immediate past president Simmy and Brown,

1082
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Speaker 23: past Minister Simmy and Brown, who has given very clear

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Speaker 23: guidelines to counsels that he wants them to get off

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Speaker 23: of the stuff, swim in their own lane. And these guys,

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Speaker 23: instead of worrying about who's having a coke at the rugby,

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Speaker 23: they should be worried about what's the quality of the

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Speaker 23: road to.

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Speaker 3: Drive to the rugby?

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Speaker 23: Are they looking after the potholes, the water, the rubbish,

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Speaker 23: the stuff that their rate payers really expect them to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's And interestingly, Josie, this is part of which

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Speaker 2: I didn't existed, but part of a health policy. Should

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Speaker 2: a council have a bloody health policy?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 22: I mean, if you think it's realistic that every child

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Speaker 22: is going to eat raw carrots and drink water every

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Speaker 22: day of the week, then you know, I don't know

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Speaker 22: what planet they're living on. So you've got to have something.

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Speaker 22: You've got to do the best things first. What's the

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Speaker 22: best thing you can do to get people not to

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Speaker 22: drink fizzy drinks every day?

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Speaker 24: Say?

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Speaker 22: Well, I don't know, make the healthy stuff cheaper or

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Speaker 22: make the bad stuff more expensive. There are lots of

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Speaker 22: things you can do. This is just a really bad

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Speaker 22: way of doing it and it makes people feel like shit. Basically,

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Speaker 22: if you give your child a fuzzy drink.

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Speaker 23: He's a great idea from here on in for those

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Speaker 23: at the partisan North City Council who want to go

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Speaker 23: with this policy, it could be a scruggen only catered

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Speaker 23: lunch from here on and at the council change a

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Speaker 23: good point.

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Speaker 2: Good point, I mean you wouldn't you shouldn't be having

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Speaker 2: a red meat, shouldn't you? I mean that that gives

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Speaker 2: you a col on cancer apparently, breeders, cards.

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Speaker 22: Dogs, No, yeah, nothing.

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Speaker 23: Just show your fingernails and just well, maybe a green

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Speaker 23: tea and an activated nut for afternoon tea.

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Speaker 7: Yeah right, Tricias.

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Speaker 22: Organic though only quite right.

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Speaker 2: Tricius and Josie Bugani on the panel. Chris Luxeen going

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Speaker 2: south for white Tangy Day will discuss that next.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty elevate the

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Speaker 1: marketing of your home.

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Speaker 2: Tricius and Joseph Bigani on the Huddle tonight. Trisha, Chris

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Speaker 2: Luxen and Dame Cindi Ketto will spend White Day Akro

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Speaker 2: this year in the South Island. That's Nahu. It's about

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Speaker 2: as far away as you can get from White Tonguey,

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Speaker 2: and which I suppose is part of the appeal, but

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Speaker 2: good idea.

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Speaker 23: I think politically luxe AND's made the calculation that there

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Speaker 23: there is no win for him in going to White Hangy.

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Speaker 23: I personally think this will be the biggest White Hangey

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Speaker 23: that we've seen. It's been building over the last few years.

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Speaker 23: And if any one listening has never been to White

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Speaker 23: Hanging on White any day, I would suggest that you go.

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Speaker 23: It is an absolutely it's a fantastic day. Luxeon wants

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Speaker 23: to separate himself from, of course the Treaties Principal's Bill

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Speaker 23: and all of the debate that will go on around

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Speaker 23: that this year, and obviously David Seymour will be at

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Speaker 23: White Hangy. So the other I guess calculation that the

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00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 23: Prime Minister's press team will have made is that he's

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00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 23: down in Okadawa. There will be if you like, clean

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00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 23: pictures for him on White Angy Day.

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Speaker 25: He'll be down there.

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00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 23: There'll be some nice picks of things he's doing, whereas

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00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 23: you know, the main focus will be at at White Haungy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Josie, what about you do you? I mean, obviously

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00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: a lot cart was presumably a lot karma and environment.

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Speaker 2: And also we've still got Winston of course, and Seymour

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00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: going to White Tangy, so if there is anything going on,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's where it'll be.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, it's quite a clever move on Luxeon's part because

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 22: you know this is this is a place in Unukou

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00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 22: Marai where the treaty was signed as well in nineteen

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00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 22: ninety eight, it was where the Crown delivered its formal

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00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 22: apology to night Tahu for breaches of the treaty. So

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Speaker 22: it's not it's not that he's you know, he's not

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Speaker 22: doing something that's nothing to do with the treaty and

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Speaker 22: nothing to do with White Tangy. And I do think that,

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Speaker 22: you know, I've heard people say that White Tangy's our

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Speaker 22: national day where we shout at each other and we

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Speaker 22: have difficult conversations, and that's a good thing, except that

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Speaker 22: it's become more than that it had for most people.

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00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 22: It's just become a family day now where you try

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Speaker 22: and avoid the news and try and avoid seeing pictures

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Speaker 22: of people shouting and spitting each other. And it's a

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Speaker 22: real shame. I think that it can't be something more

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00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 22: like July fourth than the US or Bastille Day in France.

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Speaker 22: And maybe Matariki is going to be a day where

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Speaker 22: we feel more united as a country, because it certainly

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Speaker 22: doesn't feel like white Tongey is that day, and it

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Speaker 22: is possible to have that feeling on a day that's

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Speaker 22: quite quite difficult, like if you look at Martin Luther

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Speaker 22: King Day in America. My family live in Georgia and Atlanta,

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Speaker 22: where Martin Luther King lived and was born, and it's

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Speaker 22: a wonderful day and you have difficult conversations about race

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Speaker 22: issues in America on that day, but you also celebrate

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Speaker 22: something amazing, which is the civil rights movement. So I

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Speaker 22: just think it is really sad that it has become

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Speaker 22: something that most New Zealanders try and avoid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're both absolutely right, Trisha and Josie

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Speaker 2: with us on the huddle tonight, Let's go to the

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Speaker 2: most important story of the day. That is, of course

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01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: for the Grammys and Kanye West. Now people will know

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Speaker 2: Kanye West. He's been a rapper for about twenty plus

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Speaker 2: years now, a long time. He was married to Kim

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01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: Kardashi and they had a bunch of kids and so

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Speaker 2: it's very, very famous. Now he has come with his girlfriend,

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Speaker 2: Bianca Sensori to the Grammar which is watched by you know,

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Speaker 2: millions of people around the world, and brought his girlfriend

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Speaker 2: and she has come literally but naked. Josie, she's not

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01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: she's not wearing a little bit, she's wearing nothing.

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Speaker 22: Well, I didn't realize any of them were fully dressed.

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Speaker 22: It feels like for years they've all been nearly naked.

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Speaker 22: This is just the logical conclusion. And I do find

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Speaker 22: with these things like either they're up there telling us

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Speaker 22: that we're all racist, sexist, misogynists, or they're turning up

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Speaker 22: naked showing off their perfect bodies. It's that either way,

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Speaker 22: shut up, you know, put some.

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Speaker 2: Clothes on, go awake, you do the talking.

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Speaker 26: I mean a nice one.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, but it actually crashed the virtually crashed the internet,

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Speaker 22: you know, And so I don't know, for the first

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Speaker 22: time in history, people are searching the internet to look

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Speaker 22: at a naked lady who knew.

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Speaker 23: Well, this reminds me of a fantastic saying an old

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Speaker 23: colleague of mine used to have, which was all for

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Speaker 23: hote and no knickers. And that is exactly what it is,

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Speaker 23: exactly what Kanye's girlfriend wore to the Grammys. But think

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Speaker 23: about for her and Kanye, well, think about every artist

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Speaker 23: that goes to the Grammy. That red carpet moment is

1213
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 23: a huge moment for their particular brands and profiles during

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Speaker 23: the year. And these guys have absolutely nailed it, so

1215
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Speaker 23: to speak.

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Speaker 2: Except the only problem with it is trish that normally

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01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: they're there for a promoting some designer. But you've got

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Speaker 2: if you've got no clothes on, you've got nothing to sell,

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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Ye naked, well, I think sell.

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Speaker 22: So I want to know they both should have been naked.

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01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 2: Settled down Josie.

1222
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 3: Go the full way.

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Speaker 22: I mean, he's standing there like some kind of like

1224
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,479
Speaker 22: he's I don't know, he's got a sort of pet

1225
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 22: on a lead or something. He's sort of standing there

1226
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 22: behind it weird.

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Speaker 2: Like a pimple or something. It was weird.

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Speaker 22: It take your clothes off, Kanye.

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Speaker 2: We know what Josie wants. Thank you guys, Sharson, willispr

1230
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Speaker 2: and Josep Vigani child fun Ceo on the Hudle tonight,

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Speaker 2: nine minutes away from six on News Talk Z'B. So

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Speaker 2: we've done the fizzy drinks out of Palmerston North. We

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Speaker 2: have spoken about trade and the Trump War. After six,

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,959
Speaker 2: I'm really ented to chat to Scott Brown. Now he's

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Speaker 2: the former ambassador, American Ambassador to New Zealand. Now he's

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01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: been speaking with and coaching, if you like, the incoming ambassador,

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: whose name is Jared Nevlli. Now he owns a I

1238
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: think it's a basketball team out of Australia. He is

1239
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: coming in as Trump's ambassador to New Zealand. So Scott

1240
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: Brown has been in conversations with him, gearing him up

1241
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: for his new job as new role. What does he

1242
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 2: think about the trade war and the potential for a

1243
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 2: tariff on New Zealand. He's with us.

1244
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Speaker 1: After six, it's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show

1245
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: podcast on My Art Radio powered by News Talks BE.

1246
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,959
Speaker 2: News Talk said B. It is five away from six

1247
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 2: so many texts coming in on Parmest North and their

1248
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: plan and it's out just out for consultation. They're not

1249
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: definitely doing it to ban fizzy drinks from council venues. Ryan,

1250
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 2: I think it's one of the craziest ideas I have

1251
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 2: ever heard. They did this in schools already, I was

1252
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: okay with that, but honestly, to try and do it

1253
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: to a rugby venue or to a events center nonsense.

1254
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: Just gone five to six. As I said, Now the

1255
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: Auckland meyor Wayne Brown has been in touch with us.

1256
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: So the last hour I was telling you about this

1257
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: Herald report, it's suggesting that things have kind of come

1258
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 2: to a head between Wayne Brown and his deputy Desley Simpson.

1259
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 2: Now Disley Simpson has wonderful Gutchie sunglasses on her head,

1260
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: we know that. But she also apparently got her son

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01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 2: last year to register the domain name Desley for mea

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01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 2: dot co dot nz, implying that she might want to

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Speaker 2: run for MEA, which is obviously you know, rankled a

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Speaker 2: few people. Anyway, The Herald is vading a sauce in

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01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 2: Wayne Brown's team, saying that Wayne Brown and Dessley Simpson

1266
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: are expected to meet over the next day or so.

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Speaker 2: When they do so, the source says Brown would demand

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Speaker 2: to know if she plans to run for mayor and

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Speaker 2: if so, would expect her to stand down from the

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Speaker 2: deputy roll Now our producer Laura, she's been on the

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01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: blower with Wayne and we wanted to get him on

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01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: the show to talk about this, obviously, as we did

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01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: with Desley. He's declined and he wanted us to clarify

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01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: that he hasn't spoken to Desley Simpson yet and the

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Speaker 2: Herald's reporter's just gossip. Wayne. Thank you for listening Wayne

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01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 2: while we've got you. As soon as you've now confirmed

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01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 2: that you are definitely listening, can you please sort out

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01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: the traffic on Ponsonby Road. They've put a bus way

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Speaker 2: in and a cycle way in, no one uses them,

1280
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 2: and there's traffic up the wazoo my commute in fact,

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: do you know what, I'm now going around a completely

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: different route to get to my gym. How much time

1283
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 2: have we got Wayne? A completely different route to to

1284
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,360
Speaker 2: my gym? And I'm just thinking, and that's taking me longer,

1285
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 2: and I'm using more I'm sure I'm using more emissions.

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01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: So every time you put a bus lane and every

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01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 2: time you put a cycle lanean is anyone actually measuring

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 2: whether the emissions come down? Is anyone actually asking that question?

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Speaker 2: I don't think they are anyway, Thanks for listening. One

1290
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Speaker 2: Good luck Besley. This is Beyonce. She has one album

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Speaker 2: of the year, The Cowboy Carter.

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Speaker 3: Where Business meets Insight. The Business Hour.

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Speaker 2: Evening, it is six oh seven. You're on news Talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be great to have your company shit Solly Harbor

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Speaker 2: asset Management with us in just a second talking Fisher

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Speaker 2: and Pikell Scott Brown, former US ambassador on the trade war,

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Speaker 2: and Gavin Gray is in the UK right now. Nicola

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Speaker 2: Willis is here the Finance minister. Minister. Good evening, Good evening,

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show. Let's talk growth

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Speaker 2: because it's a big focus at the moment. Look, there's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of commentary about your government. Obviously you're

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Speaker 2: moving on the foreign investment stuff. That's good. There's some

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Speaker 2: tinkering to be done with immigration settings, with nomad visas etc.

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Speaker 2: Are we going to see anything transformation or from you

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Speaker 2: in this role.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 24: Transformational is a word that Ja cinder Ardern used to

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Speaker 24: use a lot, so it's not one I repeat in

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Speaker 24: my lexicon that much. But are you going to see

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Speaker 24: bold initiatives that will make it easier for firms in

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Speaker 24: New Zealand to invest, to hire people and to grow. Yes,

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Speaker 24: will it be one silver bullet, No, because what we

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Speaker 24: know from economies the world over is it's never just

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Speaker 24: one thing. You actually have to do a lot of

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Speaker 24: things right that are on the side of growth. You

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Speaker 24: have to educate your people, you have to have not

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Speaker 24: too much regulation, you have to have a tax system

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Speaker 24: that works well. You have to have good trading relationships.

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Speaker 24: You need to encourage people to come and invest in

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Speaker 24: your country. So we've got a lot of work to

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Speaker 24: do because, for I would say successive decades, governments in

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Speaker 24: New Zealand have been complacent about growth. They've always been

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Speaker 24: able to trade it off against other things, saying we've

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Speaker 24: got to be careful about this, we've got to be

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Speaker 24: careful about that. And all of that may be true,

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Speaker 24: but right now New Zealanders are feeling poorer and if

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Speaker 24: we want to feel wealthier, we have to prioritize growth

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Speaker 24: and that's what our government is going to do across

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Speaker 24: a number of areas. So you will see a lot

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Speaker 24: of initiatives from us. You know, people have said, oh, well, tourism,

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Speaker 24: that's one small thing. If we got tourism just back

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Speaker 24: to the levels it was a few years ago, that

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Speaker 24: would be worth more than three and a half billion

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Speaker 24: dollars for the wealth of our economy. That means more jobs,

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Speaker 24: people being paid more. It also means hundreds of millions

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Speaker 24: of dollars more going into the government accounts, which is

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Speaker 24: then available to spend on schools and hospitals and the

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Speaker 24: things we care about. So we have to do lots

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Speaker 24: of things well run, and that's what we're going to do.

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Speaker 2: Have we got our company tax settings right?

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Speaker 24: Well, if you compare New Zealand with the rest of

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Speaker 24: the world, we're not as competitive as we used to be,

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Speaker 24: which is to say that our corporate tax level is

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Speaker 24: reasonably high when you compare it to the rest of

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Speaker 24: the developed world. So looking at that, our government says, okay, well,

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Speaker 24: what could we do to make sure that the tax

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Speaker 24: settings in New Zealand are supportive of businesses wanting to

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Speaker 24: invest and grow. Realizing that on the other side of that,

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Speaker 24: we have to pay for it, because if we're taking

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Speaker 24: in less tax, then we have to find other ways

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Speaker 24: of getting that money so we can invest in the

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Speaker 24: things that really matter, our public services, and also ensure

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Speaker 24: that we're still on track to get our budget back

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Speaker 24: and balance and reduce debt over time. So as a government,

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Speaker 24: we need to work through all of the those questions.

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Speaker 24: But the honest answer to your question is we need

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Speaker 24: need to be more competitive in that area.

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Speaker 2: So you are looking at changing the corporate.

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Speaker 24: Tax rate, Well, there's many different ways we can approach

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Speaker 24: the TEX system. One thing is the corporate tax rate,

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Speaker 24: but there are all sorts of tax rules that sit

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Speaker 24: underneath that, and I'm actually interested in the detail of

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Speaker 24: the way the whole system works, not just the headline rate,

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Speaker 24: but you're.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the headline rate and the other things together

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Speaker 2: to make it more competitive.

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Speaker 24: My interest is how do we make sure that it's

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Speaker 24: competitive in New Zealand that a when our small businesses

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Speaker 24: here are looking to grow or looking to invest, that

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Speaker 24: the tax system doesn't stop them doing that. But also

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Speaker 24: as we look to be a country that other people

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Speaker 24: want to invest in and bring their businesses to, how

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Speaker 24: can we make this a competitive business environment. Tax is

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Speaker 24: one part of that, but it's also about red tape.

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Speaker 24: It's about the rules in the Overseas Investment Act, it's

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Speaker 24: about being able to get a resource consent, it's about

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Speaker 24: employment law, all of those things. Firms will tell you

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Speaker 24: they've got a list when they're looking at other countries.

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Speaker 24: Tax is one pull it point on the list. It's

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Speaker 24: not the only bullet point.

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Speaker 2: Hugely important one, though. Would you look at you know,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned international firms, multinationals, and you look at Ireland

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Speaker 2: and what Island's done, and we know lux and likes

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Speaker 2: Ireland that you've got so much tax now they're putting

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Speaker 2: it into a sovereign wealth fund. Are we going to

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Speaker 2: do anything to be more competitive for that type of investment.

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Speaker 24: Well, we have a sovereign wealth fund too, it's the

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Speaker 24: New Zealand Super Fund. It's got more than seventy billion

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Speaker 24: dollars worth of assets as I talk to you today.

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Speaker 24: But when we look at Ireland's story, you're right, there's

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Speaker 24: a lot that we can take from it. They made

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Speaker 24: a real active decision to look out to the world,

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Speaker 24: to attract investment, to be a trading nation, to vigorously

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Speaker 24: improve their education system to get smart about innovation, and

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Speaker 24: they looked at tax. So we can't take tax off

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Speaker 24: the table because it could make a difference to our competitiveness.

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Speaker 24: We always have to balance that against our other pressing needs,

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Speaker 24: which include investing in frontline public services, ensuring we're getting

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Speaker 24: our deficit down, and taking other steps across the board

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Speaker 24: to make ourselves more competitive.

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Speaker 2: And what about the fastest depreciation on manufacturing technology purchases.

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Speaker 2: The Employees and Manufacturers Association has been on this program

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Speaker 2: and told them, you know that's doing that type of Yes,

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Speaker 2: it will cost you something, but you will add to growth, productivity,

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Speaker 2: wages will go up. Is that sort of stuff on

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Speaker 2: your radar too?

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Speaker 24: Oh, look, that's on my radar. That's something that I

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Speaker 24: have listened to both the employer and manufacturers, but other

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Speaker 24: organizations have promoted that idea to me, and I'm keeping

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Speaker 24: my mind open to it. Ultimately, Cabinet needs to make

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Speaker 24: decisions about what our priorities are. We haven't made those

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Speaker 24: deliberations yet, but I think it is right when we're

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Speaker 24: saying we're a government going for growth, that we do

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Speaker 24: keep all of the options on the table and we

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Speaker 24: consider what we think will make the biggest impact. So

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Speaker 24: if my mind's open.

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Speaker 2: Okay, if you're going for growth and you're also trying

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Speaker 2: to get back to surplus, some of these growth ideas

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Speaker 2: will cost money. Are you willing to further push surplus

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Speaker 2: date out if it means will you prioritize growth? If

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Speaker 2: it means will you sacrifice surplus?

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Speaker 24: If it means growth, We're going to prioritize growth. But

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Speaker 24: it's not an either or scenario because if we don't

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Speaker 24: run good books, ie we don't actually show the people

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Speaker 24: who lend to us internationally that we are going to

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Speaker 24: have sustainable finances, then the result of that can be

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Speaker 24: that it becomes a lot more expensive for New Zealand

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Speaker 24: as a whole, and New Zealand is individually to borrow

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Speaker 24: and that's very bad for growth. So there's always a

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Speaker 24: balancing that goes on here in terms of funding initiatives

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Speaker 24: that support growth. That's why it's on important we keep

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Speaker 24: looking all across government and so well where are the

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Speaker 24: areas that we're spending now that are lower value? Because

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Speaker 24: if we did some reprioritizing, then we could support the

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Speaker 24: things that will drive growth faster. And that's our agenda.

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Speaker 24: It's about saying, how do we get the growth that

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Speaker 24: will allow us to have more choices in the future,

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Speaker 24: about investing in more public services, and on the way through,

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Speaker 24: getting rid of the things that aren't moving the dial,

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Speaker 24: that aren't delivering good results for New Zealanders, the parts

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Speaker 24: of government that have become slow, wasteful, bureaucratic. Let's get

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Speaker 24: resource out of there so we can do the exciting

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Speaker 24: things that will make this a more prosperous country where

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Speaker 24: people can get ahead.

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Speaker 2: The Interroland of ferry to move on. Why the procuring

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Speaker 2: company for the inter island is still not set up well?

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Speaker 24: Obviously, Winston Peters is now responsible for keep Rail and

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Speaker 24: the Fury project, and I understand that he has the

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Speaker 24: appointment process underway for that company and once directors are appointed,

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Speaker 24: he will be incorporating it. I think he's got something

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Speaker 24: to say about that this week, because it's.

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Speaker 2: Still the March deadline, right, and if we don't get

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Speaker 2: the ferry that he wants by March, then we're going

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Speaker 2: with your two Toyota ones, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 24: That's right. And we made sure we had a fallback

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Speaker 24: position so that if the Minister for Rail doesn't come

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Speaker 24: up with a better option. Then we've got something ready

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Speaker 24: to go so that New Zealanders can be confident boats

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Speaker 24: in twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: So is your package like good and ready to go?

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Speaker 2: Because it might come down to the wire with him

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Speaker 2: and we don't want to be waiting even more time.

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Speaker 2: So is your have you got your little Toyota's ready

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Speaker 2: to go?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, So Cabinet has agreed to a funding envelope. We've

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Speaker 24: agreed to a procurement plan. We've agreed that this ferry

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Speaker 24: company that's being set up could do the purchasing of

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Speaker 24: the ships. We know that there are ships available internationally.

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Speaker 24: So that's ready to go. But the Minister for rail's

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Speaker 24: doing the right thing. He is comparing that option with

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Speaker 24: what else might be out there, and he's running a

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Speaker 24: process to.

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Speaker 3: Do that right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, the Waikata Medical School Treasury Advice says that

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Speaker 2: they think it's a waste of clearly you think otherwise,

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Speaker 2: well do you?

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Speaker 24: Well, Well, we've taken it to the next stage, which

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Speaker 24: is what they call a detailed business case. And I

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Speaker 24: know that sounds like gobbledy girk, but the idea is,

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Speaker 24: let's really dig into these numbers about what benefits it

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Speaker 24: will bring. How many more graduates we'd expect. Will they

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Speaker 24: be graduates who might not otherwise have studied medicine, Will

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Speaker 24: we get more people working in the areas of medicine

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Speaker 24: where we have shortages? What are the real costs of this?

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Speaker 24: And so that detailed business case is underway, it's been

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Speaker 24: worked on. Then Cabinet will consider it before making a

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Speaker 24: final decision. We're dotting our eyes, we're crossing our t's,

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Speaker 24: We're digging into the detail as you'd expect.

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Speaker 2: Minister, Thank you very much for your time. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: Finance Minister Nicola Willis. It has just gone seventeen minutes

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Speaker 2: after six, So you go. They are considering the corporate

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Speaker 2: tax rate as part of the well presumably as part

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Speaker 2: of the budget process. And that is as close as

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Speaker 2: you'll get Nicola Willis to saying anything remotely out of

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Speaker 2: line when it comes to the budget process. Seventeen after six,

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Speaker 2: we're going to look at next We're going to look

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Speaker 2: Twenty one minutes after six, Shane Solly's here Harvest Asset

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Speaker 2: Management to talk about the market. So today the trade

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Speaker 2: wars lots to talk about, Shane good evening.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, get a right.

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Speaker 2: So we got these tariffs twenty five percent for Canada, Mexico,

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Speaker 2: ten percent for China. How the market's reacted?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, look, yeah, sual announcement of the terriffs adittle bit

1531
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 18: of opportunity. Market investors have been anticipating some of this,

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01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 18: So the initial reactions they're actually been pretty modest. The

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01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 18: US Shimaker was down half a percent. UI still actually

1534
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 18: was quite strong. Oil price up and US bowns up

1535
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 18: of it. But we're actually seeing overnight there's a bit

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01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 18: more reaction to come. When I look at the futures,

1537
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,559
Speaker 18: I can see what markets are anticipating is a bit

1538
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 18: more weakness coming through. So yet to see. We're seeing

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01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 18: a bit of reaction from some of the other countries

1540
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 18: that are involved as well. So it's a pretty fast

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01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 18: evolving story.

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01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 2: And what's been the impact specifically on New Zealand companies,

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01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 2: especially Fisher and pikel.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, Look, we're not directly exposed. We are exposed to

1545
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 18: a tip battle between the US and China in particular,

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01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 18: and then there's this ten percent universal tariff that the US.

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Speaker 7: Government's still talking about.

1548
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Speaker 18: What we're really seeing is our US dollar Cross has

1549
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 18: done all the hard work grind. We've seen the New

1550
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 18: Zealand dollar back to fifty five since and a half,

1551
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 18: so it's going to make those holidays. So the U

1552
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 18: is very expensive, good good for people coming down. We've

1553
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 18: seen now on New Zealand youre market down one point

1554
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 18: four percent and that has predominantly been driven by Fisher

1555
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 18: and Pikele healthcare's weakness. And I think you know what

1556
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 18: we've got to keep an eye is really this ten

1557
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 18: percent tariffs that would hit a wider range of economy. Dairy, meat, wine,

1558
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 18: all those types of things would be knocked around by

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01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 18: that ten percent. But on the day, it's all about

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01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:01,799
Speaker 18: Fisher and Bible.

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Speaker 2: We had a couple of another and a couple of

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Speaker 2: other announcements I should say today Feature Building, Sky Study.

1563
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Speaker 2: What did you make of them? A new chair for

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Speaker 2: Feature Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Look, we've seen Peter Crowley appointed as chair. He's been

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Speaker 18: on the board for a little while and we've also

1567
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 18: seen the ex Bunnings boss Jackie Coombs as in the Pint.

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Speaker 18: I think this is sort of hopefully the start of

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Speaker 18: the business being able to refocus on rebuilding itself. You know,

1570
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Speaker 18: we've got Barbara Chapman, she's stepping down Fletcher Building ship

1571
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 18: Rice on the day up slightly to kill eighty eight.

1572
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Speaker 18: Sky City agreed to pay Izzie thirty eight million to

1573
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Speaker 18: set a long running dispute with the South Australian Treasury,

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Speaker 18: So that really is a good resolution. It gets rid

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Speaker 18: of a sort of an overhand for it. I think

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Speaker 18: we're going to keep focusing on fusher on bib we

1577
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 18: rf care for a while. The stock price was down

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01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,800
Speaker 18: almost seven percent today, back of thirty five dollars and

1579
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Speaker 18: ten since we don't know exactly how long the tariffs

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Speaker 18: stay on. The company came out today and said, hey,

1581
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 18: look we're okay for twenty twenty five, but if these

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01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 18: teriffs saying we're going to have to change where we use,

1583
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 18: they're going to bring more product back to u zond

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Speaker 18: And of course at the moment the zeon production is

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01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,679
Speaker 18: not getting hit with the tariff, and that would help,

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01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 18: that would reduce the impact, but still might see earnings

1587
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 18: down five percent, so the market reacted to that risk.

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Speaker 18: Anywheretween five to ten percent downside to earnings, share price

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Speaker 18: we've down in reaction to that risk.

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Speaker 2: Shane, Thanks for that. Shane solely Harbor Asset Management for

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Speaker 2: the market update. Twenty four minutes after six, you're on

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Speaker 3: Croaching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and MAS insurance

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Speaker 2: Six twenty six. You know Santorini and Greece, beautiful romantic

1598
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Speaker 2: island getaway. The schools have been shut there, special forces

1599
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Speaker 2: have been brought in, Rescue teams have been brought in,

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Speaker 2: They've got tenths, they've got drones being sent into this island.

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Speaker 2: And it's all to do with a big earthquake. The

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Speaker 2: thing is, the earthquake hasn't happened yet. This is precautionary,

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Speaker 2: which you know when I read this story, this flies

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Speaker 2: in the face of everything they tell us about earthquakes

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Speaker 2: that we can't predict when they're going to come. But

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01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: they're seismologists, and their scientists in Greece say that there

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Speaker 2: have been enough small tremors going on around Santorini to

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Speaker 2: warrant this type of pre action, you know, a precaution reaction.

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01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: So they've sent in everything but the kitchen sink by

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Speaker 2: the sounds of it. And what's the reason they've done this.

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Speaker 2: They sit on multiple fault lines there. They had a

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Speaker 2: huge earthquake back in the fifties. It's often rattled by earthquakes.

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Speaker 2: Experts described the increased seismic activity over the space of

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Speaker 2: forty eight hours, with more than two hundred tremors, registering

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Speaker 2: as dramatic. So there you go. They are I mean,

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Speaker 2: I suppose if you are that worried, you take some action. Hey,

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Speaker 2: this is the Beatles. Great news. They have won a

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Speaker 2: song that they released in November twenty twenty three called

1620
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Speaker 2: Now and then they put John Lennon's vocals on it.

1621
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Speaker 2: The old recordings and the AI wizardry somehow don't want

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Speaker 2: a Grammy.

1623
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Speaker 3: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics.

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Speaker 3: These talks double start you and I no Pennant be Humble,

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Speaker 3: Sit down, Humble, Sit down, Humble.

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Speaker 7: Up, sit down, Little Heloup Liam.

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Speaker 2: Good evening. Twenty four away from seven. You're on news

1630
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Speaker 2: talks b you haven't switched over to Underno Flavor or something.

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Speaker 2: It's the Grammys today. Actually this song is for Deasley Simpson.

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Speaker 6: Sit down, little pull up, Liam, Hit those.

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Speaker 2: Gucci sunglasses off your head, get those meural aspirations out

1634
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Speaker 2: of your head. Honestly, this is Wayne's world now, Kendrick Lamar,

1635
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: That's a really good song, isn't it. Anyway, this is

1636
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 2: his song Not Like Us. We're not playing because it's

1637
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 2: filled with profanities that we can't play on the radio.

1638
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 2: But this is humble. Kendrick Lamar has just one Record

1639
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 2: of the Year and the Song of the Year for

1640
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: Not Like Us of the Grammys, which once again raises

1641
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 2: the question why they need two different awards for Record

1642
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 2: and song when it's the same thing. Anyway. Twenty three

1643
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: away from seven, Trump has well he is set to

1644
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 2: speak with leaders of Canada and Mexico in just a

1645
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:39,599
Speaker 2: few hours. It comes as both of those countries announced

1646
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: they will impose tariffs in retaliation China, which has also

1647
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: been in the news and hit by the tariffs has

1648
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 2: said it'll take the case to the World Trade Organization.

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01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: Scott Brown is a former US Ambassador to New Zealand.

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01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 2: Scott good evening, Well, good evening to you, Scott. Great

1651
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 2: to have you on the show. As always, is this

1652
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 2: phone call are these uncle is going to change anything?

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01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, of course, it's part of the process. I mean,

1654
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 10: we have already been seeing success. Obviously, we started with

1655
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 10: some of the people that were here illegally being returned

1656
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 10: to a country and the President said that he would

1657
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 10: impose tariffs and other things in the President reversed his course.

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01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 10: I think it was Columbia, if I'm not mistaken. That

1659
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 10: being said, we have a poorest border, not only in

1660
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 10: Mexico but in Canada as well, and the fentanyl's coming

1661
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Speaker 10: through people who are not supposed to be there coming through.

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01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 10: And the President's been asking for quite a while to

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01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 10: you know, close the border and allow for the stay

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01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 10: in Mexico policy and a whole host of other things.

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01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 10: And the reason that tariffs are a tool one of

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01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 10: the tools in the toolbox is that you know, there's

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01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 10: some of these products that are in other countries. We're

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01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 10: being taxed to death, and yet they're coming into our

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01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 10: countries at a much lesser rate. So it's a mechanism,

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Speaker 10: it's a tool.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 10: I'm sure that they'll ultimately work it out.

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01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: Are you guys happy, I mean, are Republicans happy to

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01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 2: pay more for goods and services if it means if

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01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: it allows Trump to do this, because that's the outcome, right.

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01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 10: Well, it could be sure. Yeah, if we're talking about

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01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 10: national security and we got to pay a little bit

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01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 10: more from milk or cheese a butter, yeah, of course

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01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 10: we're okay with that because you know, we have to

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Speaker 10: secure a border. We have to stop the flow of sentinel.

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 10: It's killing you know, the next generation of people. And

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01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 10: they're not listening. So well, we're going to make them listen.

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01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 10: And I think it's important to get those two issues

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Speaker 10: especially a result.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon that the Mexicans actually have the capability

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01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: to stop the flow of migrants inventional.

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01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 10: Well, they certainly have a mechanism they did before to

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01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,520
Speaker 10: keep them stay in Mexico policy right now, the cartels

1689
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 10: are obviously controlling way more than they did during President

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01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 10: Trump's previous term. That's why he's designated them designated them

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01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 10: a terrorist organization, so they can actually you know, be

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01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 10: more aggressive and stuff up in the cartels. I would

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01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 10: argue and suggest, as in the years past, it would

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01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 10: be a joint effort not only with the US but

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01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 10: with Mexico, you know, on both sides of the border

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Speaker 10: to secure it.

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Speaker 25: Yeah.

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01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 10: I believe they have the tools and resources to do so.

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Speaker 2: Sure, this is at the moment seems to be very

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01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,799
Speaker 2: much about fentanal. I mean, regardless of whether Trump has

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01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 2: wider reasons for doing this, at the moment, the stated

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01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 2: reasons are fentional and migration. Does that mean that we

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01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,880
Speaker 2: should not worry because you know, we're not big on

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01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 2: exporting fentanyl from New Zealand. It's more you know, sheep

1705
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,759
Speaker 2: and beef products, dairy products.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. Yeah, Well, first of all, hello to everybody. I've

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01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 10: been actually speaking with your new ambassador elect and no,

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01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 10: listen to sixteen billion dollars of trade. It's relatively even.

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01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 10: I have not heard anything to say that we're going

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01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 10: to impose tariffs on New Zealand. Obviously we have the

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01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 10: milk and dairy and that issue that's always been there.

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01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 10: You know, full that the new ambassador will pursue a

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01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 10: free trade agreement with New Zealand, as has been since

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01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 10: the late eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds. President's past

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01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 10: have said, yeah, we need to do it, and I

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Speaker 10: know Winston Peters is working in a hirclean way to

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Speaker 10: get that done. He did with me and we were

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Speaker 10: able to do the Kiwi Act, and then he's done

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Speaker 10: other things with Ambassador you'd all as well, And it's

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Speaker 10: really important to get a free trade agreement with New

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Speaker 10: Zealand and I'm one hundred percent behind it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but doesn't that not fly on the fight Because

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, it'll be fantastic, But doesn't that

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Speaker 2: fly in the face of Trump's I mean he's called

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01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: himself missed tariff, you know, and IFTI in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: would seem to fly on the fightce of that, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 10: No, Because you know, when you're talking about the tariff

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Speaker 10: issue itself, it's because we're not getting fair access to

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Speaker 10: other countries. And we are with New Zealand. It's a

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Speaker 10: pretty balanced trade. But with China, you know, they you know,

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Speaker 10: the free speech issues for example, I mean they have

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Speaker 10: for example tikke, so they don't even allow it in

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Speaker 10: their wrong country, but it's in our country. A lot

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Speaker 10: of the goods that we want to have, whether it's

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Speaker 10: cars or any type of manufacturing, you know, they don't

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Speaker 10: allow it without massive tarras. And you know, we just

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Speaker 10: want a more free access to these markets that we

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Speaker 10: allow in return. And you know, it could be any country.

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Speaker 10: There's motorcycles they believe in India, or you know, there's

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Speaker 10: all different types of things that you need to just

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Speaker 10: make it fair. Let's compare a let's battle on a

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Speaker 10: fair basis. I think that's really the key.

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Speaker 2: Scott, Thank you for that. Scott Brown, former US Ambassador

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand, speaking to us from the United States

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Speaker 2: after Trump introduced those tariffs and China and then well,

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Speaker 2: so far, actually it is only Canada that has retaliated.

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Speaker 2: Mexico has indicated they will retaliate but hasn't yet done that,

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Speaker 2: and China is weighing up its options and taking a

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Speaker 2: case to the World Trade Organization. All three of those

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Speaker 2: countries going to sport work. Yes, three of those countries

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Speaker 2: going to speak with Donald Trump at some point. We

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Speaker 2: know in the next few hours, Pitt Trudeau will be

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Speaker 2: the first to do so, right eighteen minutes away from

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Speaker 2: seven still to come. We're into the UK with Gavin Gray.

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Speaker 2: Lots to talk about with Gavin tonight, the former president

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Speaker 2: of Spain's football federation is going on trial later today.

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01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 2: We've got the tariffs and what exactly they might mean

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Speaker 2: for Europe. Also, Kirs Starmer heading to Brussels and he's

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Speaker 2: talking about Brexit. What exactly is he saying about Brexit?

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Speaker 2: We'll ask Gavin.

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Speaker 27: Gray everything from SMS to the big corporates, the Business

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Speaker 27: Hour with Ryan Bridge and as Insurance and ended vestments,

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Speaker 27: Grew your wealth, Protect your Future newstalks V.

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Speaker 2: Just gone quarter to seven. Gavin Gray is a UK correspondent.

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Speaker 2: He is going to be with us very shortly. State

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Speaker 2: Highway one and Wellington for those who are interested, State

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Speaker 2: Highway one and Wellington is going to be closed for maintenance.

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Speaker 2: This is in the coming days and in fact this

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Speaker 2: week and next week there will be certain times at

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Speaker 2: which it has closed. You can find out more information

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Speaker 2: on the council website, NCTA website, State Highway one and

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Speaker 2: the Urban Motorway. This is basically Wellington to the Hut

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Speaker 2: that's going to be affected as well. And I just wonder.

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01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 2: It's road maintenance, which is important and needs to happen,

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Speaker 2: and of course you know resurfacing the road, you need

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Speaker 2: that to happen. I just wonder where they're doing it

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Speaker 2: at the moment because people are away on holiday. Is

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Speaker 2: it just me? Or do you feel like people are

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01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 2: taking these four days or these three days plus the

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Speaker 2: fourth day on the Friday off and just having this

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Speaker 2: whole week off so they've had the weekend, they'll have

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Speaker 2: all this week and they'll have next weekend as well.

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Speaker 2: Because I you know, call me stupid, but when I

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Speaker 2: went to the mall on Sunday, there was no one there,

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Speaker 2: and there's usually a lot of people in the mall

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Speaker 2: coming to work. Feels like no one's here, So I

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Speaker 2: just wonder, Yeah, are you are one of these people

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Speaker 2: that's taken the whole We've only just had whole based

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Speaker 2: for goodness saves? How many do you need? Anyway? It

1790
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Speaker 2: has just gone thirteen minutes away from seven Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: Kevin Gray is a UK correspondent. Gevin, thanks for being

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Speaker 2: with us this evening. The former president of Spain's football

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Speaker 2: federation is going on trial later today. What's this about?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, well you'll remember run back in the twenty twenty

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01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 25: three Women's Football World Cup that Spain won, and on

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Speaker 25: the winner's podium, the former president of the Football Federation,

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Speaker 25: Louis Rubialis, grabbed the head of one of the star players,

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Speaker 25: Jenny Hamoso, and by the head, he grabbed her with

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Speaker 25: both hands either side of her cheek and then well,

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Speaker 25: the argument is, the accusation is he then pulled her

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Speaker 25: head towards his and kissed her fully on the lips. Now,

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01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 25: afterwards Hermoso, the player, said the kiss had not been consensual.

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01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 25: Rubialis insisted it had been. And so he's now in

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Speaker 25: court today at a very unusual court, accused of sex assault

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Speaker 25: for kissing the player. And it sort of led as

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Speaker 25: an issue about sexism and consent discussions in Spain and

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Speaker 25: all triggered really after this, and indeed it triggered ruby

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Speaker 25: Ardis's record resignation. It entered the political arena. The Prime

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01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 25: Minister said that they really needed to look at gender

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Speaker 25: equality and ensure consent and sexual relations, which in some

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Speaker 25: aspects Spain was seen to be behind. So who would

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Speaker 25: have thought that in celebrating the victory for Spain in

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Speaker 25: the Women's World Cup in twenty twenty three, one man

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Speaker 25: would now end up in court for effectively, well allegedly

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Speaker 25: assaulting a player on the winner's podium.

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Speaker 2: Quite extraordinary, it is, especially because we all witnessed it, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: really strange, like do Donald Trump is the terrorf issue.

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about this all afternoon. Imports from the EU,

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01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 2: he says, will definitely happen following what he's done with

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Speaker 2: Canada and Mexico and China. How's that landing.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, where you can imagine? Not particularly well. It's been

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01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 25: debated for so long about will he do it, won't

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Speaker 25: he do it? And as Donald trumpbenter talks shortly with

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Speaker 25: Canada and Mexico, he's actually threatening that he could wratch

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01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,080
Speaker 25: it up those tariffsies issued on those countries further if

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Speaker 25: and when they retaliate that you'd come in, of course,

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01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 25: in about a day's time. So there is lots of

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01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:26,639
Speaker 25: talk about this here in the EU, what it'll mean,

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Speaker 25: and of course to the UK. So of the EU,

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Speaker 25: he said, quote, they've really taken advantage of us. They

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Speaker 25: don't take our cars, they don't take our farm products,

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Speaker 25: they take almost nothing, and we take everything.

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Speaker 3: He says.

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Speaker 25: Millions of cars, tremendous amounts of food and farm products.

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Speaker 25: The reporter then said, look, are you you know is

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Speaker 25: there a timeline? When's that going to happen? He said,

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Speaker 25: it's going to be pretty soon, and then carried on

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Speaker 25: with his famous sort of stance that the US has

1839
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 25: been ripped off by virtually every country in the world.

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Speaker 25: But what about the UK? Well that was slightly different.

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Speaker 25: Said there were issues, he said, And yeah, that's a possibility.

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Speaker 25: He said, But the Prime Minister here, Sir kist Armer

1843
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 25: had and I love this bridge, Ryan Bridge, he says,

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01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 25: kist arm has been very nice.

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Speaker 2: Bizarre. Well, it's all about relationships, doesn't it. I mean

1846
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:22,799
Speaker 2: with Trump, that's the that's the key to the castle,

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01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,720
Speaker 2: I guess. And speaking of Kis Darmer, he's heading to Brussels.

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Speaker 2: This is for the European Union Union leaders meeting.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, and lots of people who voted for Brexit, believe

1850
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 25: in Brexit, don't like this cozying back up to the

1851
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 25: European Union. They fear it's re entering the Union via

1852
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 25: the back door. But this is an important meeting. It

1853
01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 25: is the first time a British prime minister has done

1854
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 25: this since Brexit. He's heading over the English Channel, then

1855
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 25: most of the discussions won't be about the economy. There'll

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01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 25: be defense and security cooperation. He's also meeting the NATO

1857
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:01,799
Speaker 25: Secretary General Mark Rutter. But what Sakis Starmer is calling

1858
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 25: a reset between the UK and the European Union, well round,

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01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 25: plenty of people here are wondering if it's more, Will

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01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,760
Speaker 25: they really not discuss the economy at all? Ministers have

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01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,520
Speaker 25: already said they want to see a better relationship on crime, defense, security,

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Speaker 25: but also trade, and will this potentially be the start

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Speaker 25: of some sort of rapproch one about that. It was

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Speaker 25: never going to happen under Boris Johnson, it was never

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01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 25: going to happen under Liz Truss. Rishi soon acting to

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Speaker 25: be warmer to the idea, but was aware that many

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Speaker 25: in his political party as Prime Minister would not have

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Speaker 25: really allowed this at all. Sakis Farmer coming at it

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Speaker 25: from a different angle. Let's see what happens. But it

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01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 25: is this argument about perhaps closer links over trade that

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01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 25: is going to be extremely, extremely divisive here in the UK.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like, Devin, thank you so much for that.

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Speaker 2: Devin Gray, are UK correspondent. Your news talks in B.

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Speaker 2: It's eight to seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the hitherto per Se Allan Drive full show podcast

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Speaker 1: on Iheartrated powered by News Talk ZEBB.

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Speaker 2: Six to seven on News Talk ZIB. Now, we've been

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Speaker 2: talking today about the Grammys and the sorry yeah, the Grammys,

1879
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:14,759
Speaker 2: and then the Oscars are coming next and the Oscars.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone has seen this movie, Amelia Perez,

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01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 2: but it's lead actress who's a transactress, is getting herself

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01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,839
Speaker 2: in all sorts of trouble over the last couple of days.

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01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 2: Well she to be fair, she hasn't done anything. She

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01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:32,000
Speaker 2: just did some tweets a while ago that are now resurfacing.

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Speaker 2: So she has been nominated for Actress of the Year

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Speaker 2: or Actor of the Year, whatever you want to call it,

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01:37:38,479 --> 01:37:41,400
Speaker 2: and that is now in jeopardy because of these tweets

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01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 2: that have been resurfaced. Now among them, she talks about

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01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 2: picking her daughter up from school and there being lots

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Speaker 2: of Muslim people because she's Spanish, she lives in Spain,

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01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 2: lots of Muslim people and saying, oh am, I going

1892
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 2: to have to learn Arabic. All these kinds of things,

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Speaker 2: which are obviously not last things to say. So tweets

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01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 2: of that nature years ago. The film that she's in

1895
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 2: is Being, which is about a trans woman and the

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01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:11,640
Speaker 2: cartels in Mexico. The film that she's in Being absolutely

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01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 2: slammed online because it doesn't represent Mexico well or represent

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Speaker 2: trans people. Well, I mean, all this stuff and you

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Speaker 2: just think she's an actress. It's a movie. It's all

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Speaker 2: make believe. I mean really, the only question in my

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01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 2: mind that should matter is can they act? Did they

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01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:37,879
Speaker 2: give a good performance? The rest surely is just noise. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: it's coming up to four away from seven, Well, what

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01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 2: are we going out to?

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Speaker 12: And right, yeah, back to the Grammys for a moment. Ran.

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Speaker 12: We're not going out to Billy Eilish and we're not

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01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 12: going out to Tailorsoft because neither of them won anything

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01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 12: at the Grammys. Tailorsoft was nominated for six awards, Billy

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Speaker 12: Eilish was nominated for seven, and neither of them managed

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01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,080
Speaker 12: to actually win it in which is actually quite interesting,

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Speaker 12: possibly not deserved, I don't know, but one person who did,

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Speaker 12: Charlie XC. She won two of the awards she was

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Speaker 12: nominated for. She won Best Electronic Album, which is controversial

1914
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 12: because it was more of a Pop Album but whatever,

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01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 12: And she also won Best a Dance Pop Recording that

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01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 12: well at least has pop in the name, so she

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Speaker 12: won that for Von Dutch. I can't play that because

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Speaker 12: that's false wheel words too. That seems to be a

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Speaker 12: trend at the Grammys this year, so we're.

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Speaker 2: Going out with Apple Goodness. Nice Taylor Swift took home

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01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 2: all the money. Of course, with that eraors, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't think she'll lose any sleep.

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Speaker 26: Don't worry.

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