1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:14,467 Speaker 1: from NEWSTALKSB but that James Maconey, would you. 3 00:00:14,827 --> 00:00:17,587 Speaker 2: Yes, it's right, Yeah, there's all I mean, look how 4 00:00:17,587 --> 00:00:20,547 Speaker 2: many spoilers we are we looking after here? You know? 5 00:00:20,787 --> 00:00:23,907 Speaker 2: Like I think for movies it's fair, but for live sport, 6 00:00:23,947 --> 00:00:25,787 Speaker 2: when you're listening to a sports show, I don't think 7 00:00:25,787 --> 00:00:29,267 Speaker 2: you can ask the host to have no spoilers. Sorry, yeah, 8 00:00:29,307 --> 00:00:29,827 Speaker 2: I haven't. 9 00:00:29,587 --> 00:00:32,107 Speaker 3: Given away the ending. Yeah, you haven't given by the 10 00:00:32,187 --> 00:00:34,307 Speaker 3: ending to six cents or anything like that, have I? 11 00:00:34,627 --> 00:00:36,787 Speaker 2: Exactly? Yeah, it's right if you Yeah, we're not going 12 00:00:36,867 --> 00:00:39,507 Speaker 2: to give away the end, the twist and sixtent, so 13 00:00:39,587 --> 00:00:44,067 Speaker 2: you're saved out there, but you might give a cricket score, okay, 14 00:00:44,187 --> 00:00:45,667 Speaker 2: so yeah, it's fine. 15 00:00:46,427 --> 00:00:47,947 Speaker 3: Did you think there was going to be a twist 16 00:00:48,107 --> 00:00:50,667 Speaker 3: in the All Blacks Scotland game? Did you think that 17 00:00:51,067 --> 00:00:54,267 Speaker 3: Scotland might finally get that elusive victory this morning? 18 00:00:55,187 --> 00:00:57,587 Speaker 2: Well, there was a way that third quarter with the 19 00:00:57,867 --> 00:01:01,467 Speaker 2: Scottish attack what I would describe as high octane one 20 00:01:01,507 --> 00:01:05,267 Speaker 2: out running. Where look when they when they lift the 21 00:01:05,387 --> 00:01:07,667 Speaker 2: tempo like that, I think it's hard for any team 22 00:01:07,707 --> 00:01:11,307 Speaker 2: to withstand that. But the All Blacks. I thought they 23 00:01:11,307 --> 00:01:14,067 Speaker 2: showed a lot of resolve, though super plucky on defense. 24 00:01:14,827 --> 00:01:17,027 Speaker 2: The way that when they did come in waves that 25 00:01:18,107 --> 00:01:20,347 Speaker 2: you know, some of our defense, some of the tackles 26 00:01:20,347 --> 00:01:24,267 Speaker 2: from Larkie wallas Att while he was on there, and 27 00:01:24,387 --> 00:01:26,507 Speaker 2: others in the forwards as well, I just thought was 28 00:01:26,707 --> 00:01:31,987 Speaker 2: really impressive. And I think when our razor talks about moments, 29 00:01:32,107 --> 00:01:34,427 Speaker 2: and I think all your callers have talked about several 30 00:01:34,467 --> 00:01:38,107 Speaker 2: of those moments, and the ones that stand out for 31 00:01:38,147 --> 00:01:41,827 Speaker 2: me were the turnovers from Larki and Lester fining, the mukoup, 32 00:01:43,187 --> 00:01:46,707 Speaker 2: the trysaver from Cameroy guard and then those those three 33 00:01:46,747 --> 00:01:49,347 Speaker 2: moments from Damien McKenzie who won us the game. 34 00:01:49,907 --> 00:01:54,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no moments and amongst an earty minute game year, 35 00:01:54,987 --> 00:01:57,027 Speaker 3: it's being on Those are the things we talk about 36 00:01:57,067 --> 00:02:00,667 Speaker 3: and the things that are so integral that fifty twenty two. 37 00:02:01,187 --> 00:02:02,947 Speaker 3: I know we see the most games, right, there's a 38 00:02:02,987 --> 00:02:05,307 Speaker 3: fifty twenty two in a lot of rugby games, but 39 00:02:05,467 --> 00:02:08,147 Speaker 3: just win that fifty two twenty two came and I 40 00:02:08,147 --> 00:02:11,507 Speaker 3: think the demoralizing effect it had on Scotland sort of 41 00:02:11,547 --> 00:02:14,267 Speaker 3: nearing the end of that game was was pretty key. 42 00:02:14,387 --> 00:02:16,107 Speaker 3: Was and I think that was the key moment. 43 00:02:16,987 --> 00:02:18,747 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too, And it looked like a 44 00:02:18,827 --> 00:02:20,827 Speaker 2: set play to me. It looked like they didn't want 45 00:02:20,827 --> 00:02:25,107 Speaker 2: to cross the halfway line, therefore giving McKenzie the opportunity 46 00:02:25,307 --> 00:02:27,707 Speaker 2: to kick the fifty twenty two. Of course, there's not 47 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:30,627 Speaker 2: that far the actual to be able to kick those. 48 00:02:30,747 --> 00:02:34,307 Speaker 2: I've seen them kicked by accident. Peter o'mony at sky 49 00:02:34,387 --> 00:02:38,547 Speaker 2: Stadium in Wellington springs to mind an accidental fifty twenty two. 50 00:02:38,667 --> 00:02:41,347 Speaker 2: So dmac was back on the ten meter, but landing 51 00:02:41,387 --> 00:02:43,507 Speaker 2: it so close to the Scottish goal line was an 52 00:02:43,587 --> 00:02:47,227 Speaker 2: absolute dagger and I applaud him he drew up that 53 00:02:47,307 --> 00:02:52,987 Speaker 2: play because it did look really deliberate and dmac's contortionist, 54 00:02:53,627 --> 00:02:55,667 Speaker 2: you know, like honestly, it was like something out of 55 00:02:55,707 --> 00:02:58,747 Speaker 2: Circus Lay And I mean, I don't want to get 56 00:02:58,747 --> 00:03:01,427 Speaker 2: into my dating history, but there was this one. No anyway, 57 00:03:01,787 --> 00:03:05,307 Speaker 2: it was like there was. It was an impressive finish. 58 00:03:05,387 --> 00:03:09,107 Speaker 2: I haven't seen anything more like that in a big Test. 59 00:03:09,147 --> 00:03:12,867 Speaker 2: Just two players sort of swatted aside as he sort 60 00:03:12,907 --> 00:03:17,187 Speaker 2: of slammed it behind his back. That was massive and 61 00:03:17,267 --> 00:03:22,027 Speaker 2: also a substitute winning man in the match. You hardly 62 00:03:22,067 --> 00:03:22,627 Speaker 2: ever see it. 63 00:03:23,147 --> 00:03:25,987 Speaker 3: No, it was a performance to be proud of for 64 00:03:26,067 --> 00:03:27,507 Speaker 3: Damien McKenzie, that's for sure. 65 00:03:29,587 --> 00:03:31,547 Speaker 2: Before we move on, I didn't notice that one of 66 00:03:31,547 --> 00:03:35,707 Speaker 2: your listeners was saying maybe the theme song for the 67 00:03:35,707 --> 00:03:39,387 Speaker 2: All Blacks should be Yellow by Coldplay, and I have 68 00:03:39,507 --> 00:03:41,827 Speaker 2: pens and lyrics if you'd like to hear it listens 69 00:03:41,827 --> 00:03:44,507 Speaker 2: for that listener, I'd love to dedications. 70 00:03:44,947 --> 00:03:47,347 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, here we go. 71 00:03:48,067 --> 00:03:52,347 Speaker 4: Look at the card, the ones the ref shows you 72 00:03:53,467 --> 00:03:56,907 Speaker 4: for all the sins that you do, and they were 73 00:03:56,987 --> 00:04:02,227 Speaker 4: all yellow. You tripped the guy collapse, the mall or 74 00:04:02,227 --> 00:04:07,027 Speaker 4: two slap down a past day through and you got 75 00:04:07,027 --> 00:04:07,827 Speaker 4: show yellow. 76 00:04:09,787 --> 00:04:13,507 Speaker 3: That is utterly brilliant, utterly bro I just I just 77 00:04:13,547 --> 00:04:15,067 Speaker 3: know that's what we're going to be hearing on Craig 78 00:04:15,147 --> 00:04:17,387 Speaker 3: goes well tomorrow night, surely or is it just is 79 00:04:17,427 --> 00:04:18,267 Speaker 3: it just for us? 80 00:04:19,147 --> 00:04:20,827 Speaker 2: It's just for me? You do you want exclusive? 81 00:04:20,907 --> 00:04:21,907 Speaker 4: There'll be exclusive. 82 00:04:22,547 --> 00:04:28,387 Speaker 3: I'm so proud to get it. That's magnificent stuff. I'll 83 00:04:28,427 --> 00:04:30,427 Speaker 3: let him know tomorrow morning on the I'll let them 84 00:04:30,427 --> 00:04:32,467 Speaker 3: know tomorrow morning on the ten past eight Commentary Box 85 00:04:32,507 --> 00:04:35,187 Speaker 3: and say hey, hey, Mike, I've got a little song 86 00:04:35,347 --> 00:04:35,867 Speaker 3: for you. 87 00:04:36,787 --> 00:04:38,467 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll. 88 00:04:38,227 --> 00:04:42,667 Speaker 3: Love it speaking of yellow and yellow fever segue there 89 00:04:42,707 --> 00:04:44,187 Speaker 3: for you. Do you think the Phoenix will level win 90 00:04:44,227 --> 00:04:44,987 Speaker 3: one of these derbies? 91 00:04:46,547 --> 00:04:49,227 Speaker 2: Yes they will. I thought they were pretty impressive. I've 92 00:04:49,267 --> 00:04:52,387 Speaker 2: never heard the term high line mentioned so many times 93 00:04:52,827 --> 00:04:57,267 Speaker 2: in commentary, Pinety, but you're definitely. If you're playing a 94 00:04:57,347 --> 00:04:59,627 Speaker 2: drinking game where you mentioned high line, I think there'll 95 00:04:59,667 --> 00:05:02,227 Speaker 2: be a few inebriated spectators, don't you think? 96 00:05:02,627 --> 00:05:02,947 Speaker 4: Yeah? 97 00:05:03,027 --> 00:05:05,267 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's some. It is a talking point, isn't it, 98 00:05:05,347 --> 00:05:07,387 Speaker 3: especially when you when the high line lets you down 99 00:05:07,427 --> 00:05:09,107 Speaker 3: after twenty eight seconds. 100 00:05:09,707 --> 00:05:11,747 Speaker 2: And it is it's a danger, right, this is the 101 00:05:11,787 --> 00:05:13,667 Speaker 2: whole thing. And it's happened to them again. I mean, 102 00:05:13,787 --> 00:05:16,907 Speaker 2: well it happened against Perth and now we see it. 103 00:05:16,947 --> 00:05:19,227 Speaker 2: And of course what we're talking about is where the 104 00:05:19,267 --> 00:05:22,147 Speaker 2: defense are pretty much forcing the issue, standing a bit 105 00:05:22,227 --> 00:05:25,707 Speaker 2: further forward than they normally would that defensive line. And 106 00:05:26,347 --> 00:05:28,427 Speaker 2: I don't know, Yes, it puts a bit of pressure 107 00:05:28,467 --> 00:05:30,947 Speaker 2: on but I'll tell you what, it leads gaps, and 108 00:05:31,307 --> 00:05:34,427 Speaker 2: I think that it has to stop the high line 109 00:05:34,467 --> 00:05:37,267 Speaker 2: once they get or they come up with a compromise. 110 00:05:37,747 --> 00:05:42,587 Speaker 2: Because they scored an absolute beauty of a goal. You 111 00:05:42,627 --> 00:05:45,827 Speaker 2: can tell. I mean Where did they find this Nigerian striker? 112 00:05:46,547 --> 00:05:49,667 Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible. You know his last club was in Iraq. 113 00:05:50,107 --> 00:05:52,547 Speaker 3: You've got to love football to play football in Iraq. 114 00:05:53,587 --> 00:05:55,547 Speaker 2: That's what he's played for. All the Ols. You know 115 00:05:55,627 --> 00:05:59,347 Speaker 2: that our every club begins with OL. You know, call 116 00:05:59,427 --> 00:06:01,747 Speaker 2: me OL. So I mean the one thing with the 117 00:06:02,187 --> 00:06:05,827 Speaker 2: Phoenix that I think. And you've got Steve Carriker, I 118 00:06:05,827 --> 00:06:07,667 Speaker 2: think coming up, I'm not sure, but. 119 00:06:07,707 --> 00:06:10,587 Speaker 3: He no, no, he's up after two. 120 00:06:11,387 --> 00:06:13,347 Speaker 2: He's a stern fellow and I think a bit a 121 00:06:13,347 --> 00:06:15,987 Speaker 2: fair factor helps when it comes down to closing out 122 00:06:16,027 --> 00:06:19,587 Speaker 2: big games like that. And I mean chief he is lovely, 123 00:06:19,747 --> 00:06:22,507 Speaker 2: lovely man, but you know there's there's that and also 124 00:06:23,187 --> 00:06:27,067 Speaker 2: just leadership, and that's where how Aukan they see based. 125 00:06:27,107 --> 00:06:30,107 Speaker 2: Their team had Orki Sakai, a few others, a few 126 00:06:30,187 --> 00:06:33,307 Speaker 2: key people that they got in there the strata. We 127 00:06:33,507 --> 00:06:38,227 Speaker 2: sort of solidify their team. Whereas I think Wellington, apart 128 00:06:38,227 --> 00:06:41,067 Speaker 2: from Alex Rufer, there's always a bit of a bit 129 00:06:41,107 --> 00:06:43,307 Speaker 2: of a movable feast and once they settle on that, 130 00:06:43,507 --> 00:06:45,227 Speaker 2: I think it's a fair fight. Right now, I look 131 00:06:45,267 --> 00:06:47,147 Speaker 2: forward to the to the rematch, to be honest. 132 00:06:47,827 --> 00:06:51,027 Speaker 3: A couple of red cards shown last night Steve Corriker 133 00:06:51,067 --> 00:06:53,227 Speaker 3: didn't agree with the first one. I'll ask him why 134 00:06:53,267 --> 00:06:55,867 Speaker 3: after two. I think the logan Rogerson won, there's no 135 00:06:55,987 --> 00:06:59,907 Speaker 3: intense but the outcomers he's he's landed as studs halfway up. 136 00:07:00,027 --> 00:07:02,107 Speaker 3: Lucas Kelly healed shin. That was always going to be 137 00:07:02,147 --> 00:07:02,787 Speaker 3: a red, wasn't it. 138 00:07:03,507 --> 00:07:05,787 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. The one issue I have with 139 00:07:05,787 --> 00:07:08,387 Speaker 2: with red in the A leaguers. They're shown very easily 140 00:07:08,467 --> 00:07:11,027 Speaker 2: to the New Zealand teams, but I've seen pretty much 141 00:07:11,547 --> 00:07:13,827 Speaker 2: a shoulder charge it would be a sin but at 142 00:07:13,907 --> 00:07:18,267 Speaker 2: least in most in either rugby code, and the player 143 00:07:18,307 --> 00:07:20,507 Speaker 2: just wanders around like it is no big deal, you know, 144 00:07:21,027 --> 00:07:23,027 Speaker 2: and they and they say it's shoulders, the shoulder, and 145 00:07:23,027 --> 00:07:25,427 Speaker 2: it's like, that's not really what the law is intended. 146 00:07:25,467 --> 00:07:27,747 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you can come in and absolutely take 147 00:07:27,787 --> 00:07:30,747 Speaker 2: someone out. So I find that the physicality, yes, I 148 00:07:30,747 --> 00:07:32,747 Speaker 2: mean you're right studs. When the studs are up and 149 00:07:32,787 --> 00:07:37,147 Speaker 2: they and they really do some damage, then yes, But 150 00:07:37,307 --> 00:07:39,547 Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of stuff that happens in 151 00:07:39,587 --> 00:07:43,787 Speaker 2: football where you know it is accidental, there's no malice intended, 152 00:07:43,907 --> 00:07:46,187 Speaker 2: and then sometimes the red card just comes. 153 00:07:45,987 --> 00:07:49,267 Speaker 3: Out just before you go, Key, We's tour some more 154 00:07:49,387 --> 00:07:55,467 Speaker 3: tonight in the Pacific Championship Rugby League Final. Could this 155 00:07:55,547 --> 00:07:58,507 Speaker 3: be quite close? It could be quite close. Could some 156 00:07:58,547 --> 00:07:59,107 Speaker 3: more won't this? 157 00:08:00,307 --> 00:08:03,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent they could. They blew it last time. Really, 158 00:08:04,307 --> 00:08:05,867 Speaker 2: I think it was Dean narrow and to put down 159 00:08:06,107 --> 00:08:08,947 Speaker 2: a pretty sharp ball. Had a bit of source on 160 00:08:08,987 --> 00:08:11,987 Speaker 2: it really from Blaze to Lungey. But this is the 161 00:08:12,027 --> 00:08:14,787 Speaker 2: whole thing. I think even Brian Tall had a chance 162 00:08:15,467 --> 00:08:18,747 Speaker 2: in the dying stages of the early game. Amount smart, 163 00:08:18,787 --> 00:08:21,627 Speaker 2: I mean, some more do. That's a star studded team, 164 00:08:22,027 --> 00:08:24,787 Speaker 2: so even those players have just mentioned there, you've got 165 00:08:25,227 --> 00:08:28,787 Speaker 2: premiership winners with recent premiership winners, You've got Roger Tuvass 166 00:08:29,067 --> 00:08:32,827 Speaker 2: paying houses in there like that, there's no weak links 167 00:08:33,067 --> 00:08:36,507 Speaker 2: because even if you look at your house, combine combo 168 00:08:36,587 --> 00:08:39,867 Speaker 2: with Jerome Lewy joining Blaize to Lungey, it's just really 169 00:08:39,987 --> 00:08:43,187 Speaker 2: nice team to watch and so I think it will 170 00:08:43,267 --> 00:08:46,427 Speaker 2: be an entertaining game. But the one wonder thing about 171 00:08:46,467 --> 00:08:48,547 Speaker 2: the Kiwis is they seem to be They've got a 172 00:08:48,587 --> 00:08:53,747 Speaker 2: really tough heart to the team and the spine seems 173 00:08:53,747 --> 00:08:57,147 Speaker 2: to be operating just well enough. Phoenix Crossland will be 174 00:08:57,147 --> 00:08:59,427 Speaker 2: in at Hoker, which has always been a little bit 175 00:08:59,427 --> 00:09:01,827 Speaker 2: of a problem position over the years for the for 176 00:09:01,907 --> 00:09:06,227 Speaker 2: the Kiwis and you know Karan Furran just hanging on. 177 00:09:06,987 --> 00:09:10,507 Speaker 2: But look, for example, if Jarromes Hughes was fit, I'd say, hey, 178 00:09:10,547 --> 00:09:12,827 Speaker 2: we're winning this, but right now it looks like it 179 00:09:13,307 --> 00:09:15,627 Speaker 2: could be very close. I haven't written a song for 180 00:09:15,667 --> 00:09:18,907 Speaker 2: this one, sorry, Poney, but I'm definitely worth a look 181 00:09:18,907 --> 00:09:20,467 Speaker 2: At six pm. 182 00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:25,187 Speaker 3: On Sky what could I request a song about Wellington's 183 00:09:25,227 --> 00:09:27,787 Speaker 3: Highline to the tune of Back in the High Life 184 00:09:27,907 --> 00:09:29,747 Speaker 3: Again by Steve Winwood? Would you be able to come 185 00:09:29,787 --> 00:09:32,667 Speaker 3: up with something? I'm not straight away, but maybe next week. 186 00:09:32,707 --> 00:09:33,107 Speaker 3: I don't know. 187 00:09:33,787 --> 00:09:36,507 Speaker 2: No, I'm happy to do that and quite in speaking 188 00:09:36,507 --> 00:09:38,747 Speaker 2: of quite a high voice, Steve when would say, asking 189 00:09:38,747 --> 00:09:40,627 Speaker 2: a lot of me piney, but I'm happy to deliver. 190 00:09:40,987 --> 00:09:44,707 Speaker 3: Okay, love it, James, always good chatting mate, James mcconey, 191 00:09:44,707 --> 00:09:45,747 Speaker 3: big part of our Sundays. 192 00:09:46,427 --> 00:09:49,627 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine. Listen live 193 00:09:49,747 --> 00:09:53,027 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow 194 00:09:53,067 --> 00:09:54,667 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.