1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fyne 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from Newstalk c B. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,347 Speaker 2: Let's get you back to Ireland though to Dublin, I 4 00:00:15,347 --> 00:00:18,027 Speaker 2: think even still to a Viva stadium where at TIA 5 00:00:18,187 --> 00:00:21,627 Speaker 2: Radio rugby commentator Michael Corkran joins us. Michael, thanks for 6 00:00:21,627 --> 00:00:23,787 Speaker 2: staying up so I like and joining us across New Zealand. 7 00:00:23,827 --> 00:00:26,747 Speaker 2: What was your assessment of the Irish performance in the 8 00:00:26,827 --> 00:00:27,347 Speaker 2: taste match? 9 00:00:28,747 --> 00:00:30,267 Speaker 3: Jason is good at talk to you again, Matt. 10 00:00:30,787 --> 00:00:33,267 Speaker 4: I thought I thought Aran were pretty poor and looked 11 00:00:33,307 --> 00:00:38,587 Speaker 4: really rusty and undercooked. I had expressed that concern during 12 00:00:38,587 --> 00:00:41,587 Speaker 4: the course of the week. You know, it's the first 13 00:00:41,627 --> 00:00:45,467 Speaker 4: or first game together since since June July, since the 14 00:00:45,467 --> 00:00:48,827 Speaker 4: trip to South Africa. But having said that, there are 15 00:00:48,867 --> 00:00:50,307 Speaker 4: quite a few of the players in the in the 16 00:00:50,307 --> 00:00:52,867 Speaker 4: certain team as well have been out injured and haven't 17 00:00:52,867 --> 00:00:57,187 Speaker 4: played actually any footy so far this season that I'm 18 00:00:57,227 --> 00:00:58,907 Speaker 4: not I say that just as a background, but it 19 00:00:58,947 --> 00:01:00,067 Speaker 4: certainly isn't an excuse. 20 00:01:00,147 --> 00:01:00,787 Speaker 3: I thought they were. 21 00:01:00,947 --> 00:01:02,907 Speaker 4: They were really poor, med a lot of hunting ours 22 00:01:02,907 --> 00:01:04,547 Speaker 4: get way and off a lot of penalties during the 23 00:01:04,547 --> 00:01:07,387 Speaker 4: course of the match. I'm not trying to take away 24 00:01:07,387 --> 00:01:09,667 Speaker 4: from what New Zealand did and achieved. I thought they 25 00:01:09,667 --> 00:01:14,107 Speaker 4: were excellent. Their game, game control, game management was really 26 00:01:14,147 --> 00:01:17,627 Speaker 4: good and I think Ireland were slightly flattered by the 27 00:01:17,627 --> 00:01:20,907 Speaker 4: final score because if you think, you know, New Zealand 28 00:01:20,907 --> 00:01:23,227 Speaker 4: had plenty of opportunities to kick penalties. 29 00:01:22,827 --> 00:01:24,227 Speaker 3: And they didn't. They went for the corner. 30 00:01:24,907 --> 00:01:26,987 Speaker 4: One of the penalties came back off of the of 31 00:01:27,467 --> 00:01:30,227 Speaker 4: the upright and I think Arland were kind of slightly 32 00:01:30,267 --> 00:01:32,187 Speaker 4: fortunate to have only lost the game by what is 33 00:01:32,227 --> 00:01:35,227 Speaker 4: the ten points twenty three thirteen. I think they were 34 00:01:35,267 --> 00:01:36,987 Speaker 4: kind of fortunate enough. I mean New Zealand could have 35 00:01:37,027 --> 00:01:41,827 Speaker 4: scored certainly another maybe nine points, that's the reality about it, 36 00:01:41,907 --> 00:01:43,467 Speaker 4: and it could have been a heavier look to the 37 00:01:43,507 --> 00:01:46,627 Speaker 4: score line. So like New Zealand certainly deserved to win. 38 00:01:46,747 --> 00:01:48,747 Speaker 4: I thought they were I thought they were really good. 39 00:01:48,787 --> 00:01:50,627 Speaker 4: It was a bit of a strange match, to be fair, 40 00:01:52,307 --> 00:01:54,427 Speaker 4: but yeah, you know, Ireland put themselves in a good 41 00:01:54,427 --> 00:01:56,227 Speaker 4: position early in the second half of the match, but 42 00:01:56,267 --> 00:01:58,347 Speaker 4: New Zealand just closed it out really well. Their bench 43 00:01:58,347 --> 00:02:00,627 Speaker 4: had a good impact. I didn't gave away a lot 44 00:02:00,627 --> 00:02:02,387 Speaker 4: of penalties. You could say that came from a lot 45 00:02:02,427 --> 00:02:05,827 Speaker 4: of the pressure from New Zealand, but Newisalan had a 46 00:02:05,827 --> 00:02:08,227 Speaker 4: really good but all carriers are in front of difficult 47 00:02:08,227 --> 00:02:11,107 Speaker 4: to cope with that and just couldn't cope with the 48 00:02:11,227 --> 00:02:14,307 Speaker 4: pace And that's game pace and that comes from you. You 49 00:02:14,307 --> 00:02:15,707 Speaker 4: can be as fit as you want, but if you 50 00:02:15,707 --> 00:02:18,707 Speaker 4: don't play matches, and you haven't played matches, you're lacking 51 00:02:18,787 --> 00:02:19,507 Speaker 4: match sharpness. 52 00:02:19,507 --> 00:02:20,427 Speaker 3: That's the reality about it. 53 00:02:20,427 --> 00:02:23,587 Speaker 4: And Aren't looked like a team that hadn't played haven't 54 00:02:23,587 --> 00:02:25,587 Speaker 4: played a game for a while. New Zealand looked like 55 00:02:25,627 --> 00:02:27,707 Speaker 4: a team that have played matches over the last two 56 00:02:27,707 --> 00:02:30,547 Speaker 4: weekends and ultimately for me, that was a difference between 57 00:02:30,547 --> 00:02:31,427 Speaker 4: the two sides tonight. 58 00:02:32,347 --> 00:02:36,987 Speaker 2: Yeah, great summary. It's it's an uncontrollable though for Ireland, 59 00:02:37,067 --> 00:02:39,547 Speaker 2: isn't it? You know they it's just the nature of 60 00:02:39,627 --> 00:02:42,587 Speaker 2: the rugby calendar. How do you mitigate the market? How 61 00:02:42,627 --> 00:02:45,427 Speaker 2: do you yeah, how do you capitalize on the fact 62 00:02:45,467 --> 00:02:48,907 Speaker 2: that you're fresh? Perhaps, you know, could Island have been 63 00:02:48,987 --> 00:02:52,187 Speaker 2: better in terms of you know, the freshness? I thought 64 00:02:52,187 --> 00:02:54,867 Speaker 2: that were good, you know that very physical, very vigorous 65 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:56,747 Speaker 2: in the first twenty thirty minutes. Do you get the 66 00:02:56,787 --> 00:02:58,907 Speaker 2: feeling which just the last twenty where things started to, 67 00:02:59,667 --> 00:03:01,227 Speaker 2: you know, fall off a cliff a little bit for them. 68 00:03:02,027 --> 00:03:03,427 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they were a build under the pump 69 00:03:03,467 --> 00:03:05,907 Speaker 4: at that stage, to be fair. I mean, you know, 70 00:03:05,987 --> 00:03:08,587 Speaker 4: it was tight enough at halftime. I don't think it 71 00:03:08,627 --> 00:03:10,107 Speaker 4: was a whole up between the two teams in the 72 00:03:10,107 --> 00:03:14,027 Speaker 4: first half. And again just the lack of match sharpness. 73 00:03:16,587 --> 00:03:21,307 Speaker 4: Lack of match sharpness there. And you know, I thought 74 00:03:21,307 --> 00:03:23,387 Speaker 4: New Zealand deserved to be ahead a halftime. I thought, 75 00:03:23,707 --> 00:03:25,947 Speaker 4: as you said, gave themselves a chance with that. Josh 76 00:03:26,027 --> 00:03:28,067 Speaker 4: vander Fleer tried to start the second half to kick 77 00:03:28,067 --> 00:03:28,627 Speaker 4: the penalty. 78 00:03:29,147 --> 00:03:30,227 Speaker 3: But the response to. 79 00:03:30,227 --> 00:03:34,227 Speaker 4: New Zealand was really good and as you I mean, 80 00:03:34,267 --> 00:03:36,827 Speaker 4: you would expect that, you know. I mean people were 81 00:03:36,827 --> 00:03:39,067 Speaker 4: talking during the course of the week about Cody Taylor 82 00:03:39,147 --> 00:03:41,067 Speaker 4: not playing, Bud Barrett not playing. 83 00:03:41,067 --> 00:03:43,707 Speaker 3: What a big lass they are, and they were. 84 00:03:43,827 --> 00:03:47,067 Speaker 4: But you know, the people like Jamie McKenzie was outstanding, 85 00:03:47,067 --> 00:03:51,347 Speaker 4: I thought, and they totally really well. Luckily I don't 86 00:03:51,387 --> 00:03:52,747 Speaker 4: have a vote from out of the match. I thought 87 00:03:52,827 --> 00:03:55,867 Speaker 4: Artie Save was brilliant. I mean, I just think he's immense. 88 00:03:57,067 --> 00:03:58,827 Speaker 4: He certainly would have got my vote. That's the reality 89 00:03:58,827 --> 00:04:01,307 Speaker 4: about it. While as the t t was excellent. I'm 90 00:04:01,307 --> 00:04:04,507 Speaker 4: not leaving out Sam Kine, like if I don't even 91 00:04:04,547 --> 00:04:07,707 Speaker 4: mention his name, it's almost disrespectful to him. I thought, 92 00:04:08,107 --> 00:04:11,187 Speaker 4: I thought the New Zealand back row was way better 93 00:04:11,227 --> 00:04:14,667 Speaker 4: than the Irish one, and that that was a big 94 00:04:14,667 --> 00:04:17,027 Speaker 4: factor as well too. And it's just it's just a 95 00:04:17,147 --> 00:04:20,787 Speaker 4: lack of match sharpness, a bit of fatigue in terms 96 00:04:20,787 --> 00:04:23,387 Speaker 4: of the amount of tackles they had to make. I 97 00:04:23,427 --> 00:04:26,347 Speaker 4: think Ireland made certainly over twice as many tackles they missed, 98 00:04:26,347 --> 00:04:27,267 Speaker 4: an offlader of tackles. 99 00:04:27,267 --> 00:04:30,827 Speaker 3: I think I read some of that, Harry. 100 00:04:30,867 --> 00:04:32,667 Speaker 4: I'm trying to unwind after the match and I'm kind 101 00:04:32,667 --> 00:04:34,227 Speaker 4: of trying to keep up with the statistics, but I 102 00:04:34,227 --> 00:04:38,147 Speaker 4: think Ireland missed thirty tackles during the course of the game. 103 00:04:38,147 --> 00:04:40,467 Speaker 4: They gave away huge amount of penalties, and that's a 104 00:04:40,667 --> 00:04:45,307 Speaker 4: very un ireland Like performance, if you understand what I mean. 105 00:04:45,347 --> 00:04:48,427 Speaker 4: They normally don't miss. The tackle completion rates quite high 106 00:04:48,867 --> 00:04:51,387 Speaker 4: and they rarely they gave away throughout the course of 107 00:04:51,667 --> 00:04:55,827 Speaker 4: this season. Twenty twenty four calendar year, gave away an 108 00:04:55,867 --> 00:04:59,267 Speaker 4: average of ten penalties per game, and by halftime tonight 109 00:04:59,307 --> 00:05:02,067 Speaker 4: they'd given away seven. So I would I would, I 110 00:05:02,107 --> 00:05:05,507 Speaker 4: would say it's it's it's well up into the into 111 00:05:05,587 --> 00:05:08,467 Speaker 4: the teams, that the final count was just an error 112 00:05:08,547 --> 00:05:11,747 Speaker 4: strewn performance. Again, I'm not taking away from New Zealand 113 00:05:11,827 --> 00:05:13,667 Speaker 4: at all, but I mean you're asking me a question 114 00:05:13,667 --> 00:05:15,467 Speaker 4: about Ireland way where they said poor and trying to 115 00:05:15,867 --> 00:05:18,467 Speaker 4: try and explain to you why. But I thought New 116 00:05:18,547 --> 00:05:20,387 Speaker 4: Zealand were excellent to fully deserve the victory. 117 00:05:21,347 --> 00:05:23,547 Speaker 2: So if we look at the calendar year, Michael, the 118 00:05:23,627 --> 00:05:26,227 Speaker 2: Six Nations, Ireland won the Six Nations with four wins 119 00:05:26,307 --> 00:05:29,507 Speaker 2: and a defeat. They squared the series with the world 120 00:05:29,547 --> 00:05:33,587 Speaker 2: champions South Africans, So you know, good performances in the republic. 121 00:05:33,667 --> 00:05:36,547 Speaker 2: Where are we in the life cycle of this current 122 00:05:36,627 --> 00:05:39,227 Speaker 2: Irish sie for example, how many of these players will 123 00:05:39,227 --> 00:05:40,747 Speaker 2: still be around at the nixt World Cup. 124 00:05:42,507 --> 00:05:44,627 Speaker 4: Well, the interesting thing is that there are seventeen of 125 00:05:44,667 --> 00:05:47,587 Speaker 4: the twenty three that played were involved tonight or at 126 00:05:47,587 --> 00:05:49,587 Speaker 4: the last World Cup. From an Ireland point of view, 127 00:05:49,587 --> 00:05:53,987 Speaker 4: there's only ten of the twenty three for the old. 128 00:05:53,787 --> 00:05:56,947 Speaker 3: Blocks, So there are. 129 00:05:58,387 --> 00:06:01,227 Speaker 4: You know, there are a few, quite a few of 130 00:06:01,267 --> 00:06:03,387 Speaker 4: them actually will not be around next time. So Peter 131 00:06:03,427 --> 00:06:06,187 Speaker 4: Amani was on the bench tonight so was Connor, Murray 132 00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:08,067 Speaker 4: is Key and Heally. Between the three of them, I 133 00:06:08,067 --> 00:06:09,907 Speaker 4: think they have a combined age of almost one hundred 134 00:06:09,907 --> 00:06:15,027 Speaker 4: and ten. I mean, certainly o'manny and Murray will be 135 00:06:15,067 --> 00:06:17,427 Speaker 4: gone by by the end of the season because that 136 00:06:17,547 --> 00:06:20,627 Speaker 4: they're they've just signed a one year contract extension. Minustan 137 00:06:20,747 --> 00:06:23,867 Speaker 4: is Keen Healey's contact is up as well, so that 138 00:06:23,987 --> 00:06:27,387 Speaker 4: there will be there will be a sort of natural turnover, 139 00:06:28,227 --> 00:06:29,787 Speaker 4: but it's not it's not going to come at this 140 00:06:29,867 --> 00:06:32,547 Speaker 4: time of the year like like our cycle is kind 141 00:06:32,587 --> 00:06:35,107 Speaker 4: of slightly different to yours, if you understand in terms 142 00:06:35,147 --> 00:06:38,867 Speaker 4: of the where the calendar is structured. So we probably 143 00:06:39,507 --> 00:06:43,827 Speaker 4: see you know, probably most of those players will be involved, 144 00:06:45,147 --> 00:06:47,627 Speaker 4: excuse me, during the course of the sixth Nations Championship. 145 00:06:47,627 --> 00:06:50,307 Speaker 4: But then because of the British and Irish lines toward 146 00:06:50,347 --> 00:06:54,707 Speaker 4: too to Australia, you know that that's an Ireland I 147 00:06:54,707 --> 00:06:58,227 Speaker 4: think they're playing Romania and Georgia or maybe Romanian Portigal 148 00:06:58,347 --> 00:07:01,027 Speaker 4: or Portigal involvement some way as well. So that will 149 00:07:01,027 --> 00:07:03,507 Speaker 4: that will be a kind of natural handover of the 150 00:07:03,547 --> 00:07:05,427 Speaker 4: baton if you and a Samma mean in terms of 151 00:07:05,467 --> 00:07:09,387 Speaker 4: a new generation of players, coming through, but certainly you know, 152 00:07:09,507 --> 00:07:13,387 Speaker 4: for for o'many, for Murray, for Key and Heally, tonight will. 153 00:07:13,187 --> 00:07:14,627 Speaker 3: Be the last time that they've faced. 154 00:07:15,947 --> 00:07:18,587 Speaker 4: It's the hockey, and you know they've had some good 155 00:07:18,627 --> 00:07:21,147 Speaker 4: memories in the past, but obviously not a good one tonight. 156 00:07:21,987 --> 00:07:23,907 Speaker 2: All right, Michael, I really appreciate your standing up on 157 00:07:23,907 --> 00:07:26,747 Speaker 2: how it's called a past midnight there you probably eyeing 158 00:07:26,827 --> 00:07:29,067 Speaker 2: up a ginner s or two and you you absolutely 159 00:07:29,147 --> 00:07:31,027 Speaker 2: deserve it. Thanks for joining us across news you with 160 00:07:31,107 --> 00:07:31,587 Speaker 2: your assessment. 161 00:07:31,747 --> 00:07:34,427 Speaker 4: Friends, No whe is Jason, I can tell you it's 162 00:07:34,427 --> 00:07:36,347 Speaker 4: a hot cup of Barris tea and I'm already at 163 00:07:36,347 --> 00:07:39,627 Speaker 4: home kind of chilling out, trying to one mind and 164 00:07:39,627 --> 00:07:40,907 Speaker 4: and trying to take me in mind off the match. 165 00:07:40,947 --> 00:07:43,507 Speaker 4: But it's going to take another hour two to chill out, 166 00:07:43,507 --> 00:07:46,187 Speaker 4: I have to say to be fair. Congratulations again, fully deserve. 167 00:07:45,947 --> 00:07:49,347 Speaker 2: One good Man, Thanks so much, Michael. Always enjoyed chatting 168 00:07:49,347 --> 00:07:53,627 Speaker 2: Michael good only mate for in Ireland. I called them 169 00:07:53,627 --> 00:07:55,507 Speaker 2: match tonight, good assessment of it. 170 00:07:56,067 --> 00:07:59,227 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 171 00:07:59,347 --> 00:08:02,627 Speaker 1: to News Talks it'd be weekends from midday or follow 172 00:08:02,667 --> 00:08:04,267 Speaker 1: the podcast on I had radio