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Speaker 1: Government's reducing the housing density plan yet again. First they

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Speaker 1: said two million new homes in Auckland, then a lowered

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Speaker 1: that to one point six. Now Bishops is one point four.

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Speaker 1: Richard Hill's Aukland City councilor hey Richard, how.

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Speaker 2: Are you cured it? How's it going good?

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Speaker 1: Does it actually matter this number? Does it actually mean anything?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the overall number, no matter what it is,

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Speaker 2: is a capacity target, So it's if every single person

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Speaker 2: develops their property to the fullest height and sur size possible,

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Speaker 2: like everyone. So kind of it's not It's always been

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Speaker 2: a theoretical figure anyway. But the one point four was

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Speaker 2: a surprise. I think the day before we were expected

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Speaker 2: one point six, as we we've been working on the

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Speaker 2: last six weeks, and then it changed to one point four.

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Speaker 2: But here's the complicated bit that everyone won't understand. But

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Speaker 2: the National Policy Statement for Urban Development, which is a

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Speaker 2: legal requirement, and that's the apps earning around stations and towns,

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Speaker 2: enters and all that sort of thing, will require us

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Speaker 2: to get to about one point six anyway, So the

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Speaker 2: one point four is really a moot point because to

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Speaker 2: do all the things that we legally have to do

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Speaker 2: across the city. It gets us to about one point six.

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Speaker 2: We're just slightly under.

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Speaker 1: So in short, in short, the one point four doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean much. Let's not read too much into it.

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Speaker 2: What what's just politics? Ifect where?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, where does the does it change where you

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Speaker 1: zone where you allow high rises to go?

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Speaker 2: The number that changed not really, it means that we're not,

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Speaker 2: you know, I guess pushing to put it that little

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Speaker 2: bit further, maybe with a bit of additional height around

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Speaker 2: the place, but really we're still going to be zoning.

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Speaker 2: You know. Where this came from was that that mdrs

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Speaker 2: three stories on every single property. We've already moved to

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Speaker 2: a situation where it makes a bit more sense around

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Speaker 2: where infrastructure is and where the jobs are and things

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Speaker 2: like that. This again, we asked for this flexibility, but

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Speaker 2: we didn't ask through a solid number. But now now

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Speaker 2: it's largely the same as it was a couple of

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Speaker 2: days ago, because because we have to get to around

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Speaker 2: one point six anyway.

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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, it sounds like a bit of a waste

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Speaker 1: of time. Do you have maps, David Seamour says, you

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Speaker 1: guys have got maps. Have you been shown any maps

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Speaker 1: of where the houses will actually end.

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Speaker 2: Up, so we don't this. This is the confusion as well.

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Speaker 2: There's never a system where we just put in a

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Speaker 2: number and then a map spits out the other end.

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Speaker 2: The way it works is we put all the different

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Speaker 2: controls in, so you know, six stories around centers and

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Speaker 2: ten stories around translations, and move it around here, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: and then you put all that data into the system

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Speaker 2: and all the controls change the shape of the map.

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Speaker 2: We haven't done that work. I've been working six weeks

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Speaker 2: with everyone to get them to understand the one point

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Speaker 2: six and say here are the options how you could

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Speaker 2: do it, where you might remove it from. Then it

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Speaker 2: has to go into like a whole modeling system because

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Speaker 2: every part of the city is different. So some areas

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Speaker 2: have sections that are like six hundred square meters and

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Speaker 2: then other parts of the city about eight or nine hundred.

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Speaker 2: So every time you move some of the zoning, then

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Speaker 2: that means something quite different in each part of the city.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just as simple as clicking a switch

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Speaker 2: or pressing a button as some people think, which changes

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Speaker 2: the maps. So there's no map. There's no magical maps

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Speaker 2: that we've got anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Lichend Hell's Aorten Council. I appreciate your time.

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