1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: We've got some good news on the education front. For once, 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: the amount of kids passing NCA co requisite tests is 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: slowly improving. Now, these are the exam students must pass 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: in order to pass the year level move on up. 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: Fifty seven percent of students achieve maths up from forty 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: five percent. Sixty one percent pass reading up from fifty 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: eight percent, so just three percent there. Meanwhile, writing stayed 8 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: unchanged at fifty five percent. So Kate Gainsford is the 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: secretary principal's council chair. She's also a principal. She's the 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: principal at a college. And she joins her. Now, good 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: morning to you. 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: Kate, good morning, how are you today? 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: Very well, so fifty morning, it is a Tuesday morning. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, principal, and don't give me detention. 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: So a fifty seven percent pass rate for maths is 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: not great, but it is up, so I guess you'll 17 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: take that. Well. 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Yes, it's really happening to see that after all of 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: the effort that has gone on into it. So what 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: we need to see, of course, is that effort continuing. 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: You know, there's been some things that have come together 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: very nicely around this. There's been cross party agreement on 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: the need to focus on these things, and we haven't 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 2: seen that for some time, so that has lent some 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: continuity to things. That's great. We've seen we've seen the 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: government and other agencies really listening to teachers and schools 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: and they feedback about some earlier poor performance of the 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: digital platform and even some of the assessments themselves, and 29 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: that's seen some improvements. And of course we've seen a 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: little bit of extra resource in some schools to pay 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: for some additional tutoring and support, but we've got a 32 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: way to go yet to improve that. 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: So the funny thing you say, cross party supports you know, 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: everybody's supporting this, but reading, writing, and arithmetic was always 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: the very basis of our education. Why do we let 36 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: it slip? 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: Well, it hasn't been resourced in this way, certainly in 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: the primary schools with a common practice model and then 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: the structured literacy and their approach to maths. It hasn't 40 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: been resourced in anything like this way before with the 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: all of the rest of the professional development that seaches 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: have received. So it certainly has been a significant investment 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: of money and that does make a difference. If you 44 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: put more into a system you get more out of it. 45 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: So is it the resourcing or is it the government's 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: new curriculum? 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: Well it is as I said, this government and the 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: previous government had reached agreement on some approaches to literacy 49 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: that I think are proving to be fruitful. So the 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: curriculum focus is useful. What we have to make sure 51 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 2: we don't do is make sure that we neglect other 52 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: parts of the curriculum. We have too much of a 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: focus on its narrow so that we because the focus 54 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: has not been spread across other areas like science and 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: technology and languages and so forth, and those are also important. 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: Of course access to those is helped if you had 57 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: illiterate and numerate. So looking at the basics as useful. 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: Well, well done to the teachers because all the past 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: all the rates are over the fifty percent pass rate. 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: But we can do better and we still get a 61 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: long way to go, and that is Kate Gainsford's Secretary, 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: Principal's Council Chair and principal at our Tear College. For 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live to 64 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: news Talks it be from five am weekdays, or follow 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio,