WEBVTT - Full Show Podcast: 25 July 2026 0:00:06.667 --> 0:00:10.427 You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 0:00:10.707 --> 0:00:16.507 from News Talks EDB. The only place for the big names, 0:00:16.747 --> 0:00:21.747 the big issues, the big controversies and the big conversations. 0:00:22.347 --> 0:00:25.667 It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason Vine and the 0:00:25.747 --> 0:00:29.667 Volkswagen Amarok v SEX on Youth Talks VB, your home 0:00:29.707 --> 0:00:30.347 of sport. 0:00:30.987 --> 0:00:33.147 Hi, thank you to good afternoon. Welcome into the Saturday 0:00:33.267 --> 0:00:35.307 edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks VB for the 0:00:35.307 --> 0:00:39.107 twenty fifth of July. Happy sixtieth birthday to former KeyWe 0:00:39.147 --> 0:00:42.827 Leak Star Now commentator Darryl Halligan, looking good for sixty. 0:00:43.107 --> 0:00:46.547 I'm Jason Pine, Show producer Andy McDonald. We're talking sport 0:00:46.587 --> 0:00:49.507 with you until three this afternoon. Netpule's been in the 0:00:49.507 --> 0:00:53.427 headlines this week, a significant financial loss for the national 0:00:53.467 --> 0:00:57.107 body in twenty twenty six, linked largely to the A 0:00:57.267 --> 0:01:00.027 n Z premiership. Keen for you to join me this 0:01:00.107 --> 0:01:03.707 afternoon in charting the way forward. We are where we 0:01:03.747 --> 0:01:06.747 are that can't be changed. So how can the sport 0:01:06.907 --> 0:01:12.027 move forward positively? And what should the priorities be for 0:01:12.107 --> 0:01:15.107 those in charge of this great game? Hugely respected Netball 0:01:15.187 --> 0:01:18.387 administrator Sheryl Dawson standing by the chat to us and 0:01:18.427 --> 0:01:20.227 I'm keen to chew this over with you. The model 0:01:20.267 --> 0:01:24.667 has to change, so what should it look like netball 0:01:25.027 --> 0:01:28.147 to start today? 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For your text messages, send your 0:02:04.947 --> 0:02:07.707 emails to Jason. It news to Talb dot Co dot 0:02:07.787 --> 0:02:11.307 Nz eight and a half past mid day call it how. 0:02:11.147 --> 0:02:13.667 You see us On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 0:02:13.867 --> 0:02:19.387 Weekend Sports with Jason Vahine and the Volkswagen AMAROKVSS uncompromised 0:02:19.427 --> 0:02:22.187 capability on sale from eighty nine to nine nineteen. 0:02:22.347 --> 0:02:23.427 News Talk SADB. 0:02:23.867 --> 0:02:27.147 Doubt continues to swirl over the future of our domestic 0:02:27.347 --> 0:02:30.867 netball competition. The a in Z Premiership is set to 0:02:30.907 --> 0:02:35.107 record a significant loss of around three point seven million 0:02:35.147 --> 0:02:38.827 dollars this year, and Netball New Zealand itself will run 0:02:38.867 --> 0:02:41.987 at a loss of close to six million dollars in 0:02:42.067 --> 0:02:45.987 twenty twenty six. Board chair Alista Carruthers said yesterday the 0:02:46.027 --> 0:02:49.907 shortfall would be covered by the organization's cash reserves, but 0:02:50.507 --> 0:02:54.627 he warned that approach cannot continue. So what is the 0:02:54.667 --> 0:02:58.427 way forward? How can this financial bleeding be stopped? What 0:02:58.587 --> 0:03:03.187 could and should the domestic netball competition look like moving forward? 0:03:03.587 --> 0:03:05.867 And how important is it that we have a strong 0:03:05.907 --> 0:03:10.067 domestic competition to support our silver ferns. Let's bring in 0:03:10.187 --> 0:03:15.267 vastly experienced and hugely respected netball leader. Former CEO of 0:03:15.307 --> 0:03:18.867 the Magic Now They're Commercial Manager, former President of the 0:03:18.867 --> 0:03:22.107 International Netball Federation, member of the New Zealand Order of 0:03:22.187 --> 0:03:26.147 Merit for services to Netball and recipient of the International 0:03:26.187 --> 0:03:31.347 Netball Federation Service Award. Cheryl Dawson Cheryl, thanks for joining 0:03:31.387 --> 0:03:34.307 us this afternoon. It's obviously been a very difficult time 0:03:34.747 --> 0:03:38.667 for everybody involved in netball here in this country. What 0:03:38.867 --> 0:03:43.667 are the board and senior leadership team's biggest priority b 0:03:44.507 --> 0:03:45.467 right now? 0:03:46.267 --> 0:03:49.507 Well, I think, as Alistair said the other day, we've 0:03:49.547 --> 0:03:52.907 got to sit down and redesign our business of netball 0:03:53.787 --> 0:03:57.387 and redesign it in a way that we sort of 0:03:57.787 --> 0:04:03.027 complete things to enable a good strong balance between the 0:04:03.067 --> 0:04:07.387 community gain at of course our high performance level games 0:04:07.507 --> 0:04:11.947 out there for the public to enjoy. So I really 0:04:11.987 --> 0:04:16.867 believe this redesign needs to be done extremely thoroughly and 0:04:17.027 --> 0:04:20.347 people are going to have to be patient through this. Yes, 0:04:20.467 --> 0:04:24.347 it's very very tough times, but we've got to get 0:04:24.347 --> 0:04:26.787 it right to take the game into the future. 0:04:27.227 --> 0:04:29.907 So if this is an opportunity to start with a 0:04:29.907 --> 0:04:33.467 blank sheet of paper, how different should the a n 0:04:33.547 --> 0:04:36.787 JED Premiership of the future look to the one that 0:04:36.787 --> 0:04:38.867 we've had for the past decade or so. 0:04:40.587 --> 0:04:42.747 Well, I think there are a lot of positives out 0:04:42.747 --> 0:04:46.547 of what occurred this year. If you read the recent 0:04:48.107 --> 0:04:52.787 publication of the numbers for the game this year, it's 0:04:52.867 --> 0:04:56.627 absolutely amazing. And when you sit there and look at 0:04:56.627 --> 0:04:59.667 something like that final we saw between the mystics and 0:04:59.787 --> 0:05:04.307 still it's a fantastic product. The part we have to 0:05:04.347 --> 0:05:08.107 get right is how we we cover the costs that 0:05:08.187 --> 0:05:14.427 are associated with running a semi professional game at that level. 0:05:14.507 --> 0:05:17.667 I think we need to think about where are we 0:05:17.747 --> 0:05:21.547 going to find the money to take this game into 0:05:21.547 --> 0:05:26.147 the future. We can't just continue to rely on reserves 0:05:26.267 --> 0:05:29.187 or rely on the good will of everybody. We have 0:05:29.307 --> 0:05:34.987 to find substantial sponsorship to support what we see as 0:05:34.987 --> 0:05:38.987 a positive semi professionally, because let's face it, they're not 0:05:39.227 --> 0:05:40.307 truly professional. 0:05:41.187 --> 0:05:45.627 You mentioned they're the viewing numbers, also, of course extremely 0:05:45.667 --> 0:05:49.427 strong participation numbers. There are a lot of New Zealanders 0:05:49.747 --> 0:05:52.987 heavily invested in the game at various levels. But the 0:05:52.987 --> 0:05:55.867 financial model, as you say, isn't working right now. So 0:05:56.267 --> 0:05:59.747 does the sport need to become better at selling its 0:05:59.827 --> 0:06:01.947 value to potential sponsors. 0:06:03.107 --> 0:06:06.307 Absolutely, And I've always felt that I think we've under 0:06:06.427 --> 0:06:12.187 sold ourselves out there in that sort of commercial world. 0:06:12.227 --> 0:06:16.667 I think people I know from my own experiences where 0:06:16.667 --> 0:06:20.347 we bring people into a netble match they've never been 0:06:20.587 --> 0:06:23.867 And this season I had a number of people in 0:06:23.907 --> 0:06:28.227 corporate hospitality who were I would say slightly nervous about 0:06:28.307 --> 0:06:31.787 being there, but at the end of the game, they 0:06:31.827 --> 0:06:36.027 were totally enamored with the sport, and so we've got 0:06:36.027 --> 0:06:40.947 to capture some of that excitement and somehow sell it 0:06:40.987 --> 0:06:43.627 to the people out there. I mean, I live not 0:06:43.747 --> 0:06:45.907 too far from the Tote on a Nepple Theater and 0:06:45.947 --> 0:06:51.427 I know how hard they work Saturday after Saturday for 0:06:51.667 --> 0:06:54.147 the people of this community to play the game, and 0:06:54.187 --> 0:06:58.387 they're bursting at the scenes and they're very supportive of 0:06:58.587 --> 0:07:02.867 what we've been doing at that A and Z Premiership level. 0:07:03.227 --> 0:07:07.067 So we need to find ways to find the bigger 0:07:07.107 --> 0:07:10.067 players in the market, convince them of the value of 0:07:10.107 --> 0:07:16.067 this strong female market, large numbers as you mentioned, and 0:07:16.147 --> 0:07:21.587 somehow find them to invest in the future of our sport, 0:07:22.067 --> 0:07:23.507 that wonderful game of metal. 0:07:24.067 --> 0:07:27.827 And the big question, Cheryl is how do we do that? 0:07:28.067 --> 0:07:32.107 Where do you think the biggest untapped commercial opportunities are 0:07:32.587 --> 0:07:34.187 and how can they be unlocked? 0:07:35.427 --> 0:07:38.787 Well, I think the commercial opportunities lie in a lot 0:07:38.867 --> 0:07:45.787 of those products that women use, like hair skins, all 0:07:45.827 --> 0:07:48.627 of those things which seem to cost a force through. 0:07:50.387 --> 0:07:53.867 They must have some money to invest in a very 0:07:53.907 --> 0:07:57.147 strongly female sport. And I think we've got to go 0:07:57.227 --> 0:08:00.307 to them and say, here are some different ways that 0:08:00.427 --> 0:08:03.827 you might get involved. It might be about the look 0:08:03.867 --> 0:08:06.787 of the hair. I mean, as we know, are soon 0:08:06.987 --> 0:08:10.547 than our players look fabulous when they're all dressed up 0:08:10.667 --> 0:08:13.827 and ready to go. And I think that we need 0:08:14.347 --> 0:08:19.987 to capture that mark, capture that female market of products 0:08:20.067 --> 0:08:23.507 out there, because to be honest, we have relied heavily 0:08:24.107 --> 0:08:27.627 on our banks. Like we began with a National Bank 0:08:27.667 --> 0:08:30.947 Cup and then it became AMZ Championship and then it 0:08:30.987 --> 0:08:35.267 became a v Premiership. Perhaps it's time to move outside 0:08:35.307 --> 0:08:40.307 the realm of those businesses and look for strongly female 0:08:40.827 --> 0:08:46.347 centered businesses and have them use the players to promote 0:08:46.387 --> 0:08:50.147 their products, because, let's safe it, these young women are 0:08:50.227 --> 0:08:51.907 champions at promoting. 0:08:52.587 --> 0:08:52.747 Well. 0:08:52.747 --> 0:08:55.787 Look, Cheryl, and you've actually alluded nicely into a question 0:08:55.827 --> 0:08:58.987 I was going to ask about about the use of 0:08:58.667 --> 0:09:02.147 the elite players and all members of the netball community 0:09:02.187 --> 0:09:05.667 in terms of promoting products and being ambassadors for the game, 0:09:05.667 --> 0:09:10.627 because it seems to me that our top female elite 0:09:10.627 --> 0:09:14.907 players are just wonderful ambassadors for the sport. Surely a 0:09:14.987 --> 0:09:18.947 corporate brand would want to align with athletes like that 0:09:18.987 --> 0:09:21.147 wouldn't they Well. 0:09:20.947 --> 0:09:24.827 That's my feeling, and I've conveyed that to people that 0:09:25.667 --> 0:09:28.467 you know, we've just got to look outside the square 0:09:28.547 --> 0:09:32.867 of the normal pathways we've gone. We've got to look 0:09:32.907 --> 0:09:37.227 for these people who want a piece of the action 0:09:37.627 --> 0:09:43.067 of a first class game where it's truly a team 0:09:43.187 --> 0:09:47.467 game because not everybody can score the goal. So we've 0:09:47.507 --> 0:09:51.587 got to say, hey, guys, here's a chance to be 0:09:51.787 --> 0:09:55.987 involved in something with people who will do their darness 0:09:56.107 --> 0:09:58.467 to make it work for you. And I know how hard. 0:09:59.227 --> 0:10:02.547 For example, this season that the adis Magic, players have 0:10:02.707 --> 0:10:08.707 worked to promote their sponsors for to support at that level. 0:10:08.787 --> 0:10:12.227 What we need now is to find a way to 0:10:12.347 --> 0:10:17.267 capture that build it into a package for the development 0:10:17.347 --> 0:10:20.427 of this league, whatever it may look like going forward. 0:10:21.227 --> 0:10:25.347 How important is having a strong domestic competition for producing 0:10:25.427 --> 0:10:28.107 successful Silver Ferns teams. 0:10:28.187 --> 0:10:32.467 Extremely And you know, I don't have any problem with 0:10:32.587 --> 0:10:34.947 the players that have gone overseas. I think it's been 0:10:35.627 --> 0:10:38.667 fantastic for their growth and development, and we're seeing it 0:10:38.707 --> 0:10:42.107 in other sports where they go away, but they do 0:10:42.187 --> 0:10:44.307 want to come back and play for their country. And 0:10:44.747 --> 0:10:48.587 in the meantime, it gives you the chance to grow 0:10:48.747 --> 0:10:54.827 a whole other level of elite athletes. These young women 0:10:54.867 --> 0:10:58.507 who sat behind many of those players have now had 0:10:58.547 --> 0:11:02.067 a chance this year to show what they're capable out 0:11:02.147 --> 0:11:05.467 on court, the capable of out on court, and I 0:11:05.507 --> 0:11:10.027 think we've seen I'm exciting new young players come through 0:11:10.067 --> 0:11:13.387 this season and I think they've added to the vibrancy 0:11:13.627 --> 0:11:16.227 of what we saw on court during the A and 0:11:16.307 --> 0:11:17.227 Z Premiership. 0:11:17.707 --> 0:11:21.187 You nip On New Zealand has temporarily relaxed their eligibility 0:11:21.267 --> 0:11:24.027 rule so now anyone can play overseas and remain eligible 0:11:24.067 --> 0:11:27.027 for the Silver Ferns. Sure is that a sensible short 0:11:27.107 --> 0:11:30.667 term move while the domestic situation is sorted out? 0:11:31.667 --> 0:11:35.427 Well, I have to say we have to be sensible 0:11:35.507 --> 0:11:39.907 here and we've got no choice. Really, we can't say 0:11:40.027 --> 0:11:44.747 right now Huger contract for twenty twenty seven, so we 0:11:44.947 --> 0:11:48.507 have to be very practical about this. It's the same 0:11:48.627 --> 0:11:54.147 with the many people who have worked contracts for the events. 0:11:54.627 --> 0:11:56.627 They've got to look at it the same way. We've 0:11:56.667 --> 0:12:00.667 just got to say to everybody, let's remain optimistic, let's 0:12:00.667 --> 0:12:04.707 remain positive, let's work together. And I think and Hay 0:12:04.907 --> 0:12:09.507 said from the Pulse see being optimistic is important and 0:12:10.307 --> 0:12:13.867 this is how we need to go and right now, 0:12:14.427 --> 0:12:18.467 I believe Alistair for others in the Netball New Zealand 0:12:18.547 --> 0:12:24.187 board are working hard with our six current franchise teams. 0:12:24.707 --> 0:12:29.467 They're working with the New Zealand Players Association. They've been 0:12:29.667 --> 0:12:34.027 sensible in saying to people go overseas and what they're 0:12:34.067 --> 0:12:38.307 doing is, let's come up with something that's really worthwhile, 0:12:38.627 --> 0:12:42.987 really outstanding, and not just put a band aid over everything. 0:12:43.627 --> 0:12:47.787 There's been discussion around private investment and different ownership models. 0:12:47.827 --> 0:12:50.827 Do you think that's something that Netborne New Zealand should 0:12:50.827 --> 0:12:51.507 be exploring. 0:12:52.667 --> 0:12:55.187 I think they are exploring it, and I think you've 0:12:55.187 --> 0:12:59.907 got to explore every avenue you possibly can. I mean, 0:13:00.027 --> 0:13:03.387 as we know, all the American sports are privately owned, 0:13:03.427 --> 0:13:07.267 and my goodness me, look at how women's basketball over 0:13:07.307 --> 0:13:11.307 there has grown as the private owners have invested more 0:13:11.387 --> 0:13:14.667 in their game. So I think, you know, you've got 0:13:14.667 --> 0:13:18.587 to look at every opportunity and a private investors and 0:13:18.667 --> 0:13:22.107 my goodness, may they couldn't invest in anything better? Could they? 0:13:22.387 --> 0:13:25.587 No? No, you did right? And for years the broadcast 0:13:25.587 --> 0:13:29.067 deal has underpinned the competition. This feels share all like 0:13:29.107 --> 0:13:32.787 a chance to stop relying so heavily on one income 0:13:32.827 --> 0:13:36.867 stream and build a more diversified commercial model. I mean 0:13:36.907 --> 0:13:41.667 sometimes periods of disruption can have an opportunistic feel about them. 0:13:41.747 --> 0:13:44.587 Is that kind of where you feel we are that 0:13:44.587 --> 0:13:47.427 that word optimism you use that? Do you feel optimistic? 0:13:48.747 --> 0:13:48.987 Yes? 0:13:49.027 --> 0:13:49.267 I do. 0:13:49.587 --> 0:13:53.947 I've always felt optimistic. I love the game, passionate about 0:13:53.987 --> 0:13:59.987 the game, and I absolutely believe that having several income 0:14:00.107 --> 0:14:04.667 streams is essential. And you know, the reality is, we 0:14:05.307 --> 0:14:10.387 haven't got fifty and seedar stadiums, so we're not going 0:14:10.427 --> 0:14:14.707 to drive huge revenue streams out of crowds. But what 0:14:14.787 --> 0:14:17.507 we can do is drive those streams on a number 0:14:17.507 --> 0:14:23.707 of digital platforms, through television, through numerous possibilities now that 0:14:23.747 --> 0:14:27.267 we didn't have in the past. So I see, yes, 0:14:27.627 --> 0:14:30.147 balance is important. 0:14:31.147 --> 0:14:33.307 Just to finish. If we're sitting here chatting in two 0:14:33.347 --> 0:14:35.587 or three years time saying Okay, Nepal got this right, 0:14:36.507 --> 0:14:39.147 what will have happened between now and then for us 0:14:39.147 --> 0:14:42.507 to have that positive conversation in two or three years 0:14:42.507 --> 0:14:43.267 from now. 0:14:44.107 --> 0:14:49.067 Well, I think that the redesigning of our business and 0:14:49.867 --> 0:14:55.227 the various competitions we have the support of the growth 0:14:55.267 --> 0:14:58.907 that the community level our centers do an absolutely fantastic 0:14:59.027 --> 0:15:03.387 job the way we look after our fans. You know 0:15:03.467 --> 0:15:07.067 we're getting rave reviews about that. I think three years 0:15:07.187 --> 0:15:10.347 time what we could see is netball goes to a 0:15:10.387 --> 0:15:15.307 whole new level if we get our new look absolutely right, 0:15:15.427 --> 0:15:17.627 and I have every confidence we will. 0:15:18.267 --> 0:15:20.547 Cheryl, thanks for joining us this afternoon, lending us your 0:15:20.787 --> 0:15:24.267 experience and your expertise. Here's to a positive future for 0:15:24.307 --> 0:15:25.747 the game of netball here in New Zealand. 0:15:26.427 --> 0:15:28.587 Absolutely and go the silver fan. 0:15:28.587 --> 0:15:31.307 Yeah, go the silver ferns. Indeed, Cheryl, they play tonight, 0:15:31.307 --> 0:15:35.107 don't they calm games against Scotland. That's Cheryl Dawson, your 0:15:35.187 --> 0:15:38.987 chance to react or to contribute to this conversation now, oh, 0:15:38.987 --> 0:15:41.867 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are well and 0:15:41.867 --> 0:15:45.227 truly open on this. I'm not interested in a pylon 0:15:46.227 --> 0:15:49.027 on netball New Zealand or we are where we are. 0:15:50.027 --> 0:15:54.827 There's no real need to relitigate how this has happened, 0:15:54.907 --> 0:15:59.187 apart from, of course, understanding how it happened. As this 0:15:59.307 --> 0:16:01.067 was playing out over the last twelve months or so, 0:16:01.107 --> 0:16:04.347 we questioned those and positions of power, and many of 0:16:04.347 --> 0:16:07.507 those people are no longer in those positions of power. 0:16:07.507 --> 0:16:12.267 We're here now, we can't turn back time. There's no 0:16:12.387 --> 0:16:15.267 question that this has been a hugely disruptive time for 0:16:15.267 --> 0:16:19.507 the game of netball here. But with disruption comes opportunity. 0:16:20.667 --> 0:16:23.267 Much as there's a fair degree of short term pain 0:16:23.547 --> 0:16:26.227 to go through here, Netball New Zealand now have the 0:16:26.347 --> 0:16:30.427 chance to reimagine what the domestic competition should look like 0:16:30.627 --> 0:16:36.787 and most importantly, how it is financially underpinned. Board chair 0:16:36.827 --> 0:16:39.587 Alistair Carruthers, who fronted media yesterday and I think actually 0:16:39.587 --> 0:16:41.747 did a pretty good job, said a couple of things 0:16:41.787 --> 0:16:46.547 that really stood out to me. He said, turnarounds begin 0:16:46.667 --> 0:16:48.867 when you have a shared understanding of the problem. Now 0:16:48.907 --> 0:16:52.027 that's a very corporate phrase, but it is accurate. Netball 0:16:52.067 --> 0:16:55.667 New Zealand's biggest problem is obviously financial. For far too 0:16:55.747 --> 0:17:00.467 long they have relied on broadcasting money from Sky to 0:17:00.587 --> 0:17:06.747 run their domestic competition, and because of institutional complacency, which 0:17:06.787 --> 0:17:10.947 at times flowed into arrogance, they believe that tap would 0:17:11.027 --> 0:17:14.907 not be turned off. They thought netball was untouchable because 0:17:14.907 --> 0:17:17.587 of its place in our sporting history and its incredibly 0:17:17.627 --> 0:17:23.227 strong community connection massive participation numbers. But things change, nothing 0:17:23.347 --> 0:17:26.427 is certain, and having all of your eggs in one 0:17:26.507 --> 0:17:30.027 financial basket is never a sound strategy. And now that 0:17:30.107 --> 0:17:32.427 basket has been removed and Netball and New Zealand are 0:17:32.467 --> 0:17:38.427 financially exposed. But there's a chance now to stop relying 0:17:38.587 --> 0:17:42.107 so heavily on one income stream and build a more 0:17:42.187 --> 0:17:45.747 diversified commercial model. It amazes me and Cheryl brought this 0:17:45.867 --> 0:17:49.827 up that businesses who target a female market are not 0:17:49.987 --> 0:17:54.227 queuing up to invest in netball to connect with its 0:17:54.627 --> 0:17:58.707 enormous community base and to align with our elite players 0:17:58.747 --> 0:18:01.787 who are not only great athletes, but many of them 0:18:02.027 --> 0:18:05.787 rarely magnetic personalities. Look, we could sit here and very 0:18:05.867 --> 0:18:08.427 very quickly easily make a list of the products and 0:18:08.467 --> 0:18:12.387 services that large segments of the female population use and 0:18:12.467 --> 0:18:17.067 also make the purchasing decisions about in their households. Hair 0:18:17.107 --> 0:18:21.587 care and skincare, clothing brands, technology, travel, food and beverage, 0:18:21.587 --> 0:18:26.627 motor vehicles. That's just a start. But commercial partners are 0:18:26.627 --> 0:18:31.227 not charities. Netborn New Zealand can't go cap in hand 0:18:31.507 --> 0:18:36.067 to sponsors and ask them to bail them out. They 0:18:36.107 --> 0:18:38.467 need to show them the value of a long term 0:18:38.547 --> 0:18:43.267 partnership with them. There's no doubt that commercial sponsors currently 0:18:44.027 --> 0:18:48.467 undervalue netball. And maybe in a world where those partnerships 0:18:48.467 --> 0:18:52.547 weren't important because there was a big pot of broadcast money, 0:18:53.307 --> 0:18:56.827 those relationships weren't nurtured properly by Netball New Zealand because 0:18:56.827 --> 0:19:01.467 they always had the TV money. Now they don't. So 0:19:01.547 --> 0:19:04.547 let's start again. Let's reopen those conversations or start some 0:19:04.627 --> 0:19:06.747 new ones, come up with a suite of benefits for 0:19:06.747 --> 0:19:12.027 those partners, show them value and start to build a 0:19:12.187 --> 0:19:17.227 diverse revenue base to support the domestic competition and in fact, 0:19:17.267 --> 0:19:19.787 the game of netball here in this country. As I 0:19:19.787 --> 0:19:23.787 said at the start, we are here now, we're here now. 0:19:24.907 --> 0:19:29.307 Previous netball leaders at governance and operational level have dropped 0:19:29.307 --> 0:19:31.787 the ball, or at the very least taken their eyes 0:19:31.787 --> 0:19:35.227 off it. But that's only going to be a disaster 0:19:36.627 --> 0:19:38.027 if you don't pick it back up again. 0:19:38.787 --> 0:19:40.307 Big calls, big moments. 0:19:40.467 --> 0:19:43.987 We can sport with Jason Vayne and to Volkswagen Amarak 0:19:44.107 --> 0:19:48.507 Vsex from eighty nine to ninety ninety for a limited time, Newstorgs. 0:19:47.987 --> 0:19:50.627 NB lines are open on Newstorgs NB are eight hundred 0:19:50.627 --> 0:19:53.307 and eighty ten eighty. It is twelve twenty six. 0:19:53.347 --> 0:19:58.587 Hello Calvin, Yeah, in to your fini. If the netpor situation, 0:19:59.187 --> 0:20:01.307 it can only be overcome with money, you know, like 0:20:01.467 --> 0:20:05.267 somebody like me wins forty minutes tonight. I'll be down 0:20:05.307 --> 0:20:08.587 there to see them. But the reality is before they 0:20:08.587 --> 0:20:12.587 had the A n Z Championship under different guys as 0:20:12.587 --> 0:20:17.427 of premiership and championship they had before that started a 0:20:17.427 --> 0:20:22.307 few years ago. It previously the Nepal situation. New Zealand 0:20:22.347 --> 0:20:27.107 was an annual competition for the best club team, which 0:20:27.227 --> 0:20:32.147 was the local Verdet's Hamilton team. They won a two 0:20:32.227 --> 0:20:35.107 or three years running against all of the other club 0:20:35.267 --> 0:20:38.227 teams in New Zealand. And I can recall going out 0:20:38.267 --> 0:20:42.907 to Mystery Creek on the outskirts of Hamilton City where 0:20:42.947 --> 0:20:45.187 the field days is held of their big building, and 0:20:45.227 --> 0:20:49.907 they had three courts set up inside there and you 0:20:49.907 --> 0:20:52.267 could go out there and if you position yourself correctly, 0:20:52.267 --> 0:20:54.307 you could keep one eye and the whole three games 0:20:54.347 --> 0:20:58.587 going at the same time. But then of course it changed. 0:20:58.667 --> 0:21:00.627 The A and Z coming in in those days, they 0:21:00.667 --> 0:21:06.627 started up the team's Foce Diamonds, Comets, Wildcats, Magic Flyers, Shakers, Games, 0:21:06.707 --> 0:21:10.787 Rebels and Sting and after one year they ditched the 0:21:10.867 --> 0:21:12.947 comets and. 0:21:12.747 --> 0:21:16.387 They Calvin, Calvin, Calvin. Before you go much further, mate, 0:21:16.507 --> 0:21:19.907 I'd rather look ahead here. Have we got some solutions 0:21:19.947 --> 0:21:20.667 moving forward? 0:21:21.787 --> 0:21:23.907 Well, as I said right from the staff, the only 0:21:23.987 --> 0:21:24.867 solution is money. 0:21:26.067 --> 0:21:28.507 Yeah, and and I've said, you know that's where they 0:21:28.547 --> 0:21:31.587 have to diversify their income streams. They haven't got the 0:21:31.587 --> 0:21:36.227 broadcast money anymore. They must diversify their income streams. And 0:21:36.907 --> 0:21:41.747 the most obvious one to me is commercial partnerships and 0:21:41.747 --> 0:21:46.427 and you know commercializing I guess alternative broadcast platforms as well. 0:21:47.867 --> 0:21:51.147 This is a self perpetuating thing if Netborn New Zealand 0:21:51.187 --> 0:21:55.307 start to partner with some some corporates, some as I 0:21:55.347 --> 0:22:00.147 said before, some businesses who target a largely female demographic. 0:22:00.787 --> 0:22:03.427 You know, you go to a game of ams Premiership 0:22:03.467 --> 0:22:04.827 netball right now, a couple of things. You go to 0:22:04.867 --> 0:22:08.947 a game, it's the in game experience is terrific. Anyone 0:22:08.947 --> 0:22:12.347 who's been to an AM's Premiership netball game, we'll say, 0:22:12.427 --> 0:22:15.267 we'll tell you that it's a really good experience. The 0:22:15.267 --> 0:22:19.907 game day experience is excellent. And these franchises, clubs call 0:22:19.947 --> 0:22:21.987 them what you will, are doing a really good job 0:22:22.147 --> 0:22:25.747 of super serving those who come along. But then you 0:22:25.747 --> 0:22:27.347 look around, and I had this point it out to 0:22:27.387 --> 0:22:30.307 me by somebody who's a very stute observer of sport 0:22:30.307 --> 0:22:33.667 in this country. You look around at the advertising hoardings 0:22:34.907 --> 0:22:38.787 and the commercial partners are not those you'd expect. Where 0:22:38.787 --> 0:22:43.227 are the haircare brands, Where are the skincare brands? Where 0:22:43.267 --> 0:22:47.707 are the technology companies, the travel these sorts of things 0:22:47.747 --> 0:22:52.747 that that you know target, if not exclusively, then largely 0:22:52.827 --> 0:22:58.907 a female customer base. Where is this alignment? Why aren't 0:22:58.947 --> 0:23:04.027 these companies being partnered with Oh, eight hundred and eighty 0:23:04.147 --> 0:23:05.347 ten eighty is our number. 0:23:05.827 --> 0:23:09.947 Hell, they cann't rely on your reserves any longer. That's 0:23:09.987 --> 0:23:12.107 no good. What are they doing in Australia and Australia 0:23:12.147 --> 0:23:14.467 make a profit. We could copy what they do over there. 0:23:15.107 --> 0:23:16.627 They wouldn't be making a loss, would they. 0:23:17.147 --> 0:23:19.387 I don't think so. No, I don't think the super 0:23:19.427 --> 0:23:21.867 Nipple competition is making a loss. They've got a broadcast 0:23:21.867 --> 0:23:25.267 deal Ellison, which helps obviously is a huge help, but 0:23:25.307 --> 0:23:28.227 they also have other revenue strings as well. Commercial one 0:23:28.267 --> 0:23:30.747 big of country of course. But you know they're they're 0:23:30.747 --> 0:23:32.947 doing okay, Yeah, I just thought. 0:23:32.787 --> 0:23:35.467 The advertising site, they've got to do something different. It 0:23:35.467 --> 0:23:37.907 won't be fixed until a couple of years. A whay, 0:23:37.947 --> 0:23:40.267 it looks like it's just unfortunate for the players. It 0:23:40.347 --> 0:23:43.227 must be hard for them. They don't know what money 0:23:43.227 --> 0:23:44.507 they're going to get you and that's why they have 0:23:44.547 --> 0:23:47.787 to go to Australia obviously. But as that people lady 0:23:47.827 --> 0:23:50.987 said our firitual and said, it's good for these other 0:23:51.027 --> 0:23:53.547 players here because the ones going over there to get 0:23:53.587 --> 0:23:55.827 all these other ones coming through. So that is very 0:23:55.827 --> 0:23:58.867 good for our ones coming through, the ones coming through. 0:23:59.107 --> 0:24:01.747 But it must be annoying, well, not knowing what money 0:24:01.747 --> 0:24:03.787 you're going to be getting for you to live on. 0:24:03.827 --> 0:24:05.987 As what I would say there, that's for the players, 0:24:06.027 --> 0:24:07.307 you know, yeah. 0:24:07.147 --> 0:24:11.267 I'll say yeah yeahertain and uncertain future is exactly what 0:24:11.347 --> 0:24:14.467 they have they do and as much as that is 0:24:14.987 --> 0:24:17.507 going to be the cause of anxiety, we as I said, 0:24:17.547 --> 0:24:19.947 we are where we are so nipple New Zealand and 0:24:19.987 --> 0:24:22.387 their wisdom have said, right, you don't, you don't have 0:24:22.427 --> 0:24:24.467 to stay. You can go if you can get a 0:24:24.507 --> 0:24:26.907 contract somewhere else. And Alistair Caruther said this yesterday the 0:24:26.947 --> 0:24:28.787 chair of the board. If you can fight a contract 0:24:28.787 --> 0:24:31.307 somewhere else, but in Australia or further afield. You should 0:24:31.307 --> 0:24:34.507 take it because we can't offer you certainty right now. 0:24:35.107 --> 0:24:38.507 We're in the process of working towards that certainty, but 0:24:38.587 --> 0:24:40.347 at the moment we can't offer it to you. So 0:24:40.747 --> 0:24:42.827 if you're off at something overseas, you should take it. 0:24:42.987 --> 0:24:45.627 We're not going to penalize you by making you ineligible 0:24:45.667 --> 0:24:49.147 for the silver Ferns. Hopefully this is just a temporary situation, 0:24:49.467 --> 0:24:51.867 but I think that's wise because there is uncertainty. They 0:24:51.907 --> 0:24:55.587 had to do that. They couldn't hold players here because 0:24:55.587 --> 0:24:59.027 there's nothing to hold them herewith that will come. They 0:24:59.107 --> 0:25:01.907 will stand a competition up next year. It almost certainly 0:25:01.947 --> 0:25:04.827 won't look the same as this year, but they'll stand 0:25:04.827 --> 0:25:08.707 one up and then I presume anyway, they'll then work 0:25:08.747 --> 0:25:12.987 their way towards what a more structured future looks like. 0:25:13.107 --> 0:25:15.667 Good to talk to Ellison, Steve Simon, Please hold with 0:25:15.707 --> 0:25:18.427 you after this talking netball on eight hundred eighty ten, 0:25:18.547 --> 0:25:20.427 eighty twenty nine Away from one. 0:25:20.347 --> 0:25:22.067 No hydration breaks here. 0:25:22.267 --> 0:25:26.347 Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and the Volkswagen amarank v 0:25:26.507 --> 0:25:29.267 SX Power and Comfort combined on sale now. 0:25:29.467 --> 0:25:30.267 News Talks v. 0:25:30.827 --> 0:25:33.467 Twenty six away from one massive volume of texts coming through. 0:25:33.507 --> 0:25:35.227 I'll get to those when I can. Oh, eight hundred 0:25:35.307 --> 0:25:37.707 eighty ten eighty a phone call is the best way 0:25:37.707 --> 0:25:39.627 to get your point across today, Simon, thanks for holding 0:25:40.827 --> 0:25:41.507 good day, Bunny. 0:25:42.467 --> 0:25:45.627 Yeah, about netball, we have to face a harsh reality 0:25:45.787 --> 0:25:49.427 that it doesn't dominate the market anymore. This cricket, the 0:25:49.547 --> 0:25:54.227 football is rugby sevens, rugby league, basketball, and all of 0:25:54.307 --> 0:25:58.107 US athletics, cycling and other things that young woman and girls, 0:25:58.507 --> 0:26:01.587 and it's more entertaining the public are telling us this. 0:26:02.947 --> 0:26:06.147 You're talking about in a participation sent Simon, or in 0:26:06.187 --> 0:26:07.307 a viewing sense or both. 0:26:08.227 --> 0:26:13.667 Well, well, I know participation is excellent, you know, at 0:26:13.707 --> 0:26:16.907 a young age grade. But but there's so many other 0:26:17.027 --> 0:26:20.427 choices that the young women to work, to do and play, 0:26:21.027 --> 0:26:24.427 and the public enjoying watching some of these other games 0:26:24.427 --> 0:26:26.027 more than they are watching netball. 0:26:27.787 --> 0:26:29.787 Yep. I would I would agree with that, Simon. I 0:26:29.787 --> 0:26:33.067 would agree that there are way more options. And as 0:26:33.067 --> 0:26:36.427 I said at the top or during this discussion, I 0:26:36.427 --> 0:26:40.187 think there's been a degree of complacency with netble that 0:26:40.267 --> 0:26:42.507 it has or and maybe other sports in this country 0:26:42.507 --> 0:26:45.827 and Rugby's been accused of this. Maybe there's a complacency 0:26:45.827 --> 0:26:48.227 about the iconic nature of the sport in New Zealand. 0:26:48.907 --> 0:26:53.387 And I guess, ignoring the fact that you're right, there 0:26:53.387 --> 0:26:56.227 are a lot more, a lot more, a lot more 0:26:56.347 --> 0:26:57.147 sports around now. 0:26:57.507 --> 0:27:01.587 Yeah, five warman sports that they would would would rather watch, 0:27:02.227 --> 0:27:04.507 that's all, you know. They're more entertaining. 0:27:05.587 --> 0:27:08.987 Good on assigning. Look, I mean, and you're right, this 0:27:09.067 --> 0:27:10.707 is the environment we live in. But you look at 0:27:10.747 --> 0:27:12.867 those other sports and you say, well, they've had to 0:27:12.867 --> 0:27:14.827 cut their cloth to suit as well. I've had it 0:27:14.867 --> 0:27:16.547 pointed out to me by a couple of people that 0:27:18.107 --> 0:27:22.787 netball doesn't have a large men's competition to complement the 0:27:22.787 --> 0:27:25.787 women's side. It's probably the only sport in New Zealand 0:27:25.827 --> 0:27:29.507 anyway where the women's game is way more popular than 0:27:29.547 --> 0:27:32.907 the men's game. A lot of other sports, you know, 0:27:32.987 --> 0:27:35.187 the women's game is catching up to the men's game. 0:27:35.187 --> 0:27:36.947 And I look at football, and I look at rugby, 0:27:36.987 --> 0:27:39.947 and I look at cricket. All of those sports basketball, 0:27:40.747 --> 0:27:46.107 they have elite competitions for both genders. Netball doesn't have that, 0:27:46.507 --> 0:27:50.387 so it doesn't have a men's competition or an aspect 0:27:50.427 --> 0:27:54.027 to it to underpin or to help support the women's 0:27:54.027 --> 0:27:58.547 side of things. But Simon's right, there are other games 0:27:58.587 --> 0:28:03.667 in town, and so the complacency around netball being the 0:28:03.707 --> 0:28:06.547 only game in town both for participation and for or 0:28:06.827 --> 0:28:10.547 viewership is gone. That's that's no longer the case. So 0:28:10.907 --> 0:28:13.867 adapt I want to go back to the commercial side 0:28:13.907 --> 0:28:20.267 of this though, and I know this takes expertise, and 0:28:20.347 --> 0:28:26.187 even some of our big, big sports have trouble commercializing themselves, 0:28:27.867 --> 0:28:30.907 you know, I mean sports with you know, like, Okay, 0:28:30.947 --> 0:28:33.907 I'm going to use football as an example. New Zealand football. 0:28:33.987 --> 0:28:37.707 Yes they've got commercial partners, but you think to yourself, 0:28:37.707 --> 0:28:42.907 with the participation base that they have, you know, there 0:28:42.987 --> 0:28:47.027 must be opportunities for big partnerships, and there are, there are. 0:28:48.147 --> 0:28:50.987 But I think there's the expertise that is also needed 0:28:51.027 --> 0:28:56.387 in these in these conversations, we're talking big big companies 0:28:56.427 --> 0:28:59.707 here and up on New Zealand. It's not a big 0:28:59.747 --> 0:29:02.227 big company. You know, how many staff would they have 0:29:02.307 --> 0:29:05.707 I don't know, But would they have the commercial expertise? 0:29:05.707 --> 0:29:08.827 Would they have the numbers in their phone to know 0:29:08.867 --> 0:29:12.587 who to go to to start having these conversations at 0:29:12.267 --> 0:29:17.827 the Laurels of this world. How are you Steve? 0:29:20.707 --> 0:29:22.347 Gooday, how are you very good? 0:29:22.387 --> 0:29:23.347 Steve? Thanks, thanks for calling. 0:29:25.347 --> 0:29:27.547 I'd just like to say I was involved with one 0:29:27.587 --> 0:29:31.347 of the franchises a few years ago and under the 0:29:31.387 --> 0:29:35.267 previous management of Netbal New Zealand, and we had a 0:29:35.307 --> 0:29:39.867 lot of local people that wanted to support and fund 0:29:40.267 --> 0:29:45.387 and provide sponsorship dollars, but it was controlled by Netble 0:29:45.467 --> 0:29:48.067 New Zealand and so if they had to say we 0:29:48.107 --> 0:29:51.387 wanted to go to the local ponder dealer, they had 0:29:51.427 --> 0:29:55.827 to deal with Fear, which delivered nothing to the local franchises. 0:29:56.307 --> 0:30:01.867 We could have actually made our franchise sustainable by going 0:30:01.907 --> 0:30:04.987 to all the local people that would have supported our franchise. 0:30:05.667 --> 0:30:09.227 But New Zealand, under the previous regime and I've been 0:30:09.227 --> 0:30:11.747 out of it for a few years, just controlled the 0:30:11.787 --> 0:30:14.387 whole process and said you can't go there, you can't 0:30:14.467 --> 0:30:19.507 go there, all of those things, and have actually stifled 0:30:19.667 --> 0:30:25.747 our ability to raise funds and to get sponsorship. We 0:30:25.787 --> 0:30:30.467 could have we could have actually using the model that 0:30:31.267 --> 0:30:34.667 I'm sure the Crusaders and the High Livers and the 0:30:34.667 --> 0:30:38.467 Blues and everybody else they went to their local sponsors 0:30:38.507 --> 0:30:41.827 and got significant funding. We could have done that, but 0:30:42.027 --> 0:30:45.347 we were controlled by Netwing New Zealand under the previous regime. 0:30:45.387 --> 0:30:46.707 As I said, I've been out of it for a 0:30:46.747 --> 0:30:50.987 few years, but that was for Stifler for it. I 0:30:51.027 --> 0:30:55.547 agree with you. There's all these and then they said, 0:30:55.667 --> 0:31:00.027 well we will get the funding for you through sponsorship. 0:31:00.587 --> 0:31:03.787 They never delivered. Now the new regime might do that, 0:31:04.427 --> 0:31:07.627 but I agree a hundred received with you. Why aren't 0:31:08.187 --> 0:31:14.587 every woman's passion product on Netball New Zealand's radar. The 0:31:14.667 --> 0:31:16.747 other thing was we had a classic back in the 0:31:16.867 --> 0:31:20.947 day where we could have got a sponsor, you know, 0:31:20.947 --> 0:31:24.667 if we could have got naming rights for our franchise 0:31:25.387 --> 0:31:32.267 from a serious woman's retailer, but they decided instead of 0:31:32.347 --> 0:31:34.427 doing that, they wanted to put a sign on the 0:31:34.467 --> 0:31:38.467 wall at the rugby stadium. So there's also that sort 0:31:38.507 --> 0:31:43.307 of it's controlled by those people that make the buying decisions, 0:31:43.747 --> 0:31:47.067 and some of them are just they just want to 0:31:47.107 --> 0:31:53.187 be seen with an all black versus one of the netballers. 0:31:53.387 --> 0:31:57.507 Whereas the netball girls are absolutely fantastic. Every time we 0:31:57.587 --> 0:32:01.187 had a function, they are the best mixes with everybody. 0:32:01.267 --> 0:32:04.507 You go to a rugby function and the rugby guys 0:32:04.507 --> 0:32:07.587 are all sitting in the corner by them having a 0:32:07.587 --> 0:32:11.587 few beers, whereas the netball girls get out and socialize 0:32:11.667 --> 0:32:15.547 with all the sponsors that we did have and they 0:32:15.667 --> 0:32:21.187 sponsor and they are superb. I can't believe that the 0:32:21.267 --> 0:32:25.067 commercial people in New Zealand aren't supporting. 0:32:24.627 --> 0:32:27.867 Netball more Steve, I totally a great, great summary. I 0:32:27.907 --> 0:32:32.347 agree on all points. The one of the sponsorship one 0:32:32.387 --> 0:32:34.987 is so interesting to me. As you say, if you know, 0:32:35.027 --> 0:32:37.507 if a national body has a car dealer or a 0:32:37.547 --> 0:32:41.107 bank or whatever it might be as a major sponsor. Yeah, 0:32:41.147 --> 0:32:43.547 that's not rare, is it that they'll say, right the 0:32:43.547 --> 0:32:45.947 car market, you can't approach, you can't have a you know, 0:32:45.987 --> 0:32:48.547 you can't have feet if we've got Ford or vice versa, 0:32:48.667 --> 0:32:50.787 why not? Why not? 0:32:51.267 --> 0:32:51.467 You know? 0:32:51.627 --> 0:32:55.227 I mean, yeah, exactly what you'd explain to me. Why not? 0:32:55.627 --> 0:32:58.227 Or if there's a reason that it's in the contract, 0:32:58.427 --> 0:33:00.667 then change the contract. I get that a you know, 0:33:00.987 --> 0:33:03.107 a Netborne New Zealand might want to get a and 0:33:03.107 --> 0:33:04.747 I'm just blucking names out here, I might want to 0:33:04.747 --> 0:33:07.187 get a mist of Bishy on board right to sponsor them, 0:33:07.187 --> 0:33:09.707 But in that contract, say hey, in order to to 0:33:09.867 --> 0:33:14.907 create sustainable franchises. You might have exclusivity. You'll have exclusivity 0:33:14.987 --> 0:33:18.227 over the overall competition, but not over the over the clubs. 0:33:18.267 --> 0:33:20.347 And if that's if that's a sticking point, then just 0:33:20.387 --> 0:33:21.307 work the contract. 0:33:21.667 --> 0:33:27.067 Just work it one hundred percent degree. You've got exclusivity 0:33:27.267 --> 0:33:31.427 for the firms. But if the Tactics or the Steel 0:33:31.707 --> 0:33:34.387 or whoever want to go and do something with a 0:33:34.427 --> 0:33:38.187 local dealer, they can do it because that's where the 0:33:38.227 --> 0:33:42.147 money is. Because in all of those local French like 0:33:42.227 --> 0:33:45.267 I'm in South Island, are all those local franchises, they 0:33:45.387 --> 0:33:50.507 would support them because they know how powerful the brand 0:33:50.747 --> 0:33:54.827 of net Bull is. But they're controlled by the over 0:33:55.627 --> 0:33:58.907 overarching umbrella which says no, you can't go there, you 0:33:58.947 --> 0:34:04.027 can't go there. It's absolutely bes because if they could 0:34:04.027 --> 0:34:07.547 go to their local I don't know, do you Mitsabushi 0:34:07.827 --> 0:34:12.107 sponsored the fans, Fine, but we are the Steel or 0:34:12.147 --> 0:34:15.347 we are the Tactics, so we can go to our 0:34:15.427 --> 0:34:20.187 local guy who wants to be supportive of us and 0:34:20.267 --> 0:34:22.707 be involved with us, and he wants to give us 0:34:22.947 --> 0:34:23.867 serious bucks. 0:34:24.427 --> 0:34:25.507 Where's the problem. 0:34:26.027 --> 0:34:28.587 Yeah, Well, there isn't one Steve unless you make one 0:34:28.747 --> 0:34:30.667 good on your mate and just on on your point 0:34:30.707 --> 0:34:33.987 about the athletes and how good they are as ambassadors 0:34:33.987 --> 0:34:36.787 and working a room. I couldn't agree more. Yeah, I've 0:34:36.787 --> 0:34:39.147 been at corporate functions where you know, the pulse have 0:34:39.227 --> 0:34:42.827 been for example, and they're just I mean, why would 0:34:42.827 --> 0:34:45.507 you not want to align with athletes like that? They 0:34:45.667 --> 0:34:49.947 you know, they's such good communicators and brand ambassadors. Anyway, 0:34:50.027 --> 0:34:52.267 we're probably preaching to the converted. You and I, Steve, 0:34:52.267 --> 0:34:54.387 thanks for your call mate another Steve got you in 0:34:54.467 --> 0:34:56.107 just a second before I get to you. Got to 0:34:56.107 --> 0:34:58.027 take a break before that, can Ponty. I work with 0:34:58.067 --> 0:35:00.907 a new CEO, Jenny Wooten in the sports sector. She's 0:35:00.947 --> 0:35:04.507 open minded, a good communicator and an all round sharp operator. 0:35:04.547 --> 0:35:06.787 They've made a good pointment there not to loss over 0:35:06.827 --> 0:35:08.947 the challenges she faces, but I have confidence she will 0:35:08.987 --> 0:35:12.467 deliver for netball. Yeah, Jenna Whatson impresses me in terms 0:35:12.507 --> 0:35:14.867 of her CV. Look forward to chatting to her when 0:35:14.867 --> 0:35:17.267 she gets into the role in August. But you're right, 0:35:17.267 --> 0:35:19.347 she's got a she's got a big job ahead, Steve. 0:35:19.387 --> 0:35:21.547 I'm with you after this. We're talking netball till one 0:35:21.707 --> 0:35:23.587 sixteen away from one here on Weekend. 0:35:23.387 --> 0:35:27.747 Sport Big Calls Big Moments Weekend Sport with Jason Vine 0:35:27.827 --> 0:35:31.067 and the Volksvangen Amarak v Sex from eighty nine nine 0:35:31.227 --> 0:35:33.627 ninety for a limited time news Talks. 0:35:33.347 --> 0:35:35.267 Envy coming up twelve to one. 0:35:35.307 --> 0:35:37.747 Get a Steve kay Man, how are you brother? 0:35:37.947 --> 0:35:38.107 Good? 0:35:38.147 --> 0:35:40.307 Yeah, very good, Thank you Steve Hey. 0:35:40.307 --> 0:35:42.307 Listen, mate, I totally agree with that last guy, and 0:35:42.347 --> 0:35:46.227 also with you mate. There's there's a lot of money 0:35:46.227 --> 0:35:51.027 floating around for interest and sponsoring Nepple. There's there's no 0:35:51.107 --> 0:35:53.707 problem about that, okive issue as I can tell you 0:35:53.747 --> 0:35:56.587 that from first hand experience as well. Problem is when 0:35:56.627 --> 0:36:00.347 we try to put some some local sponsorship and we're 0:36:00.387 --> 0:36:04.107 talking you know, as a company, we're looking at we 0:36:04.107 --> 0:36:07.267 were looking at sort of two U three different regions, 0:36:07.307 --> 0:36:11.067 you know, you know, just putting in some su sponsorship. 0:36:11.867 --> 0:36:14.467 Bloody hell Neple New Zealand said, oh, no, you can't 0:36:14.467 --> 0:36:19.227 do that because you know, we have agreements with you 0:36:19.267 --> 0:36:22.747 know another you know, it's sort of company that's in 0:36:22.747 --> 0:36:26.027 our industry and they take exclusivity. And I said, made, 0:36:26.027 --> 0:36:30.147 that's yes, That's totally yes, because the kind of money 0:36:30.147 --> 0:36:32.227 that we're putting in us for grassroots is going to 0:36:32.267 --> 0:36:37.427 benefit the primary and the college girls, get them equipment, 0:36:37.547 --> 0:36:41.827 get them some transport bolts of the competition in those areas, 0:36:41.827 --> 0:36:45.347 because that's really the feeder to your competition. They said, 0:36:45.747 --> 0:36:47.627 oh no, no, we can't, we can't do that. We've 0:36:47.627 --> 0:36:52.387 got other we've got exclusivity with you know, national and 0:36:52.427 --> 0:36:55.587 international brands, and we just pulled out, mate. And the 0:36:55.667 --> 0:36:57.547 kind of money that we're talking about for you know, 0:36:57.587 --> 0:37:00.747 sort of three for different regions was you know, out 0:37:00.787 --> 0:37:03.627 of fifty k and I would have thought, you know, 0:37:03.707 --> 0:37:07.067 look ten k p per region. That would help the 0:37:07.147 --> 0:37:09.947 local schools and different things. Gives us a little bit 0:37:09.987 --> 0:37:12.427 of branding and say, the supports my girls that play 0:37:12.627 --> 0:37:15.507 in that particular reason. And we just gave up, mate, 0:37:15.547 --> 0:37:17.627 after two years of trying to talk to them, we 0:37:17.707 --> 0:37:22.507 just gave up. And you're probably find Piney that there's 0:37:22.547 --> 0:37:26.507 a lot of regional, local businesses that would really love 0:37:26.587 --> 0:37:30.787 to support that at at the most bigger scale. But yeah, 0:37:30.867 --> 0:37:33.907 Netble New Zealand, which are so closed minded off and 0:37:33.947 --> 0:37:35.787 that's one of the reasons why it turns people off. 0:37:36.027 --> 0:37:36.867 It's as simple as that. 0:37:37.947 --> 0:37:40.187 I hope it changes, Steve, because you're so right. It's 0:37:40.427 --> 0:37:42.427 you know, they and I understand the concept right of 0:37:42.427 --> 0:37:44.547 course I do. If Netble New Zealand, and I'm sure 0:37:44.547 --> 0:37:46.227 you don't send this to If Newborn New Zealand are 0:37:46.227 --> 0:37:47.987 talking to a big car dealer, let's use them as 0:37:47.987 --> 0:37:50.347 an example. They would like to be able to offer 0:37:50.387 --> 0:37:53.627 them exclusivity across the game in New Zealand. But we 0:37:53.667 --> 0:37:55.907 are where we are, the future are what it used 0:37:55.947 --> 0:37:58.427 to be. So yes, we'd love to have you on board. 0:37:58.467 --> 0:38:00.667 We can offer you this benefit, this benefit, this benefit 0:38:00.787 --> 0:38:03.067 around the Silver Ferns and Zi Premiership, whatever it is. 0:38:03.427 --> 0:38:06.267 But you do not have exclusivity in terms of your 0:38:06.387 --> 0:38:09.227 industry within the game in New Zealand because we need 0:38:09.267 --> 0:38:12.507 to give our franchises and our regions the ability to 0:38:12.547 --> 0:38:16.507 commercialize their areas too. You just need to change the conversation. 0:38:16.627 --> 0:38:19.667 Man, It's absolutely and you look at rugby in the 0:38:19.707 --> 0:38:22.787 way that's done it with you know, with the guys 0:38:22.827 --> 0:38:25.987 like you know Albert and the Mills, Albert the sponsor 0:38:26.027 --> 0:38:28.707 of the the Wellington lines and those sort of companies, 0:38:29.107 --> 0:38:33.147 fantastic organizations, you know what I mean. You know you've 0:38:33.147 --> 0:38:36.707 got Malcolm Gillies and Wellington. He sponsors a lot of 0:38:36.747 --> 0:38:39.707 sport and a lot of those guys look they would 0:38:39.747 --> 0:38:42.147 love to get involved in neple in a most bigger 0:38:42.147 --> 0:38:44.507 way as well, because, as you quote rightly say, nepple, 0:38:44.747 --> 0:38:49.267 I would say is probably the most popular sport in 0:38:49.347 --> 0:38:51.867 New Zealand for females hands down. 0:38:52.387 --> 0:38:56.187 Yep it is, Steve, it is and so and make 0:38:56.267 --> 0:38:58.667 great to talk to you, mate. We should talk again soon. 0:38:59.787 --> 0:39:03.507 It's here. We are in a position where there is 0:39:03.587 --> 0:39:09.867 still a massive, massive netball community. All right, it's massive there. 0:39:10.067 --> 0:39:10.227 You know. 0:39:10.227 --> 0:39:12.507 You go to any nepball court anywhere in this country 0:39:12.667 --> 0:39:15.747 on winter Saturday morning and the evidence is there for 0:39:15.787 --> 0:39:19.387 all to see. There must be a way to commercialize there. 0:39:19.707 --> 0:39:21.667 A part of Harmer of pushed us right up against 0:39:21.667 --> 0:39:22.987 the top of the hour, mate, But always good to 0:39:23.067 --> 0:39:23.387 chat to. 0:39:23.387 --> 0:39:26.987 You, okay, bro, I'll be pretty quick then hopefully you 0:39:26.987 --> 0:39:28.507 can hear me. There's a lot of concrete around there. 0:39:28.507 --> 0:39:29.947 In more Wilson's. 0:39:31.467 --> 0:39:33.507 I feel like there's a model pony that is ready 0:39:33.547 --> 0:39:35.907 to be copied, that's run on a shoe string, has 0:39:36.027 --> 0:39:39.627 coverage on Sky. It ain't making much money, but it 0:39:39.707 --> 0:39:44.747 pays its athletes. That's the sales MBL. They got more teams. Okay, 0:39:44.787 --> 0:39:48.027 they have their struggles, but they're on TV. They get 0:39:48.067 --> 0:39:50.747 imports in We don't need imports in netball, but I 0:39:50.827 --> 0:39:53.027 don't know. Sit down and talk to them, figure out 0:39:53.027 --> 0:39:56.387 how they do it, and you can probably save your 0:39:56.427 --> 0:40:00.107 comp We're a small market pony and there's not a 0:40:00.187 --> 0:40:03.667 lot of money to go around these days. But lean 0:40:03.747 --> 0:40:07.227 into socials, find other ways to support sponsors, make it regional. 0:40:07.267 --> 0:40:09.347 But yeah, sales MBL, good model for me. 0:40:09.507 --> 0:40:09.907 That's it. 0:40:10.467 --> 0:40:14.227 Good on your Padahama and enjoy more Wilson's love it there. 0:40:14.347 --> 0:40:15.747 Good to have you listening in while you're out doing 0:40:15.747 --> 0:40:18.227 your shopping too, mate, this isn't This is a great 0:40:18.267 --> 0:40:20.667 investment in the show from you. Good to talk to you, 0:40:20.707 --> 0:40:22.227 a mate, eide away from one new stalks. 0:40:23.347 --> 0:40:25.707 When there's a mine call, it's your call. 0:40:26.147 --> 0:40:31.427 Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News Talks mb kelvin. 0:40:31.427 --> 0:40:34.027 You're involved in netball sponsorship. What's your view on this? 0:40:35.107 --> 0:40:37.507 Gay parney and not great topic? And I think I've 0:40:37.507 --> 0:40:39.627 only got sixty seconds, so I'll be quickly. I am 0:40:39.667 --> 0:40:42.427 a mainline sponsor of one of the netball leads, that's 0:40:42.467 --> 0:40:45.027 the netball lead that feeds into the Premiership. Done it 0:40:45.027 --> 0:40:46.547 for about five years, so I'm the ext a guy 0:40:46.587 --> 0:40:48.947 who writes out the chick to New Zealand Netball and 0:40:48.987 --> 0:40:51.987 I'd have to say in the five years have been involved, 0:40:51.987 --> 0:40:54.947 they have been absolutely fantastic in the commercial process and 0:40:55.427 --> 0:40:58.427 everything connected to it. But the problem that all businesses have, 0:40:58.507 --> 0:41:02.467 including ours New Zealand Netball, is the market's constantly changing 0:41:02.547 --> 0:41:05.067 and the costs of running a business in the cost 0:41:05.147 --> 0:41:08.867 of sport involvement and that sort of thing has skyrocket 0:41:08.907 --> 0:41:11.347 in it and it's something that you're right. The model 0:41:11.387 --> 0:41:14.947 has to change. I don't know what the final product is, 0:41:15.027 --> 0:41:16.907 but you know I'm in to here business. I do 0:41:16.947 --> 0:41:19.507 spots in New Zealand and they are great, the girls 0:41:19.547 --> 0:41:23.147 are great. Current fault them, but looking forward to what 0:41:23.267 --> 0:41:26.787 the next way it's going to look, don't know, can't wait. 0:41:27.467 --> 0:41:29.707 Good on your Calvin. Hey, we well summarized and look 0:41:29.747 --> 0:41:31.067 you sound like the kind of guy who needs to 0:41:31.067 --> 0:41:34.147 be involved in the discussion. I hope that the relationship 0:41:34.187 --> 0:41:37.027 with Netball New Zealand continues to be a fruitful one 0:41:37.067 --> 0:41:39.227 for you. Thanks for calling and apologize I had to 0:41:39.267 --> 0:41:42.347 catch you so short. Let's shed again sometime. Really good topic. 0:41:42.347 --> 0:41:45.627 As I say, dozens and dozens of texts for people 0:41:45.627 --> 0:41:48.387 to say that you know no one cares about netball, 0:41:49.187 --> 0:41:51.827 I would utterly refute that. Thanks Roy, your calls more 0:41:51.867 --> 0:41:52.547 to come on. 0:41:52.587 --> 0:41:57.067 This the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues 0:41:57.387 --> 0:42:01.907 on on the head of the field enough. It's all 0:42:01.987 --> 0:42:07.067 on Weekend Sports with Jason and the Volkswagen Amarava. 0:42:07.307 --> 0:42:09.827 On Youthtalms MB, your home of sport. 0:42:10.507 --> 0:42:12.547 Hello there, welcome in, Welcome back one O seven. I'm 0:42:12.627 --> 0:42:15.547 Jason Pine. Andy McDonald's here as well. We're bringing you 0:42:15.587 --> 0:42:20.747 weekend Sport until three Calm Games up and running. It's 0:42:20.787 --> 0:42:25.227 our four yearly hit of the Commonwealth Games, albeit truncated 0:42:25.227 --> 0:42:30.427 this time. Fewer sports are shorter duration, but still a 0:42:30.467 --> 0:42:33.227 bit to celebrate a couple of silver medals and the 0:42:33.267 --> 0:42:35.867 Paul this morning going to cover that off shortly, we'll 0:42:35.907 --> 0:42:40.027 preview the Super Rugby Open Key Final this afternoon under 0:42:40.067 --> 0:42:44.907 the roof in christ Church, Mata to hosting the Blues. 0:42:45.347 --> 0:42:47.907 The Blues are double defending champions Muta Too won at 0:42:47.947 --> 0:42:52.387 last and twenty twenty three. Kendrick Coxedge going to preview 0:42:52.387 --> 0:42:54.467 the game for US. Adam Peacock did you see this 0:42:54.547 --> 0:42:58.147 story during the week Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent that 0:42:58.267 --> 0:43:05.227 Todd Greenberg, who is the CEO of Cricket Australia, said well, 0:43:05.387 --> 0:43:10.587 we might play an ASHES test in India. What what 0:43:10.627 --> 0:43:15.187 do you mean? It might have been taken out of context. 0:43:15.427 --> 0:43:19.027 I don't know. I'll ask Adam about it. But to 0:43:19.107 --> 0:43:23.227 suggest that an ASHES test should be played outside of 0:43:23.267 --> 0:43:27.067 Australia or England, it's just hair brain, doesn't it. 0:43:27.107 --> 0:43:27.307 Look? 0:43:27.347 --> 0:43:31.187 I get certain sports taking games to different places. Look, 0:43:31.347 --> 0:43:34.627 the NFL is coming down to Australia, isn't it in 0:43:34.667 --> 0:43:36.787 a state of origins? Coming to New Zealand. I get that, 0:43:36.867 --> 0:43:38.907 you know, one in Queensland, one in New South Wales. 0:43:39.427 --> 0:43:42.187 You know for the last long time, for the last 0:43:42.227 --> 0:43:44.707 long time. That's good grammar, for a long time. Now 0:43:44.747 --> 0:43:48.987 they have taken a game outside of those two states. 0:43:49.827 --> 0:43:54.467 But an ASHES test in India really anyway, we'll get 0:43:54.507 --> 0:43:58.947 to that. Thanks for all of your feedback, calls, correspondents, emails, 0:43:59.027 --> 0:44:03.547 texts and such like on the netball topic last hour. 0:44:03.587 --> 0:44:06.587 It is a live conversation, a live conversation. Just to 0:44:06.667 --> 0:44:10.387 rap it, I would say that it feels as though 0:44:10.467 --> 0:44:13.507 we're in good hands moving forward. At the very least 0:44:15.027 --> 0:44:19.947 Alistair Caruther's board chair, Interim CEO Jane Patterson and incoming 0:44:20.027 --> 0:44:23.627 CEO Jenna Wooton have shown a willingness to pick up 0:44:23.627 --> 0:44:26.867 the ball that has been dropped here and to at 0:44:26.947 --> 0:44:30.147 least do something about it. At the risk of repeating myself, 0:44:30.187 --> 0:44:35.747 we are where we are. It's only a catastrophe if 0:44:35.787 --> 0:44:38.867 you don't react positively to it. There's some work to 0:44:38.947 --> 0:44:42.867 do and some short term pain to go through, but 0:44:42.947 --> 0:44:45.707 it feels as though at least they've taken the first 0:44:46.427 --> 0:44:53.427 cautiously optimistic steps along this journey towards a reimagined domestic competition. 0:44:54.947 --> 0:44:57.787 The Silver Ferns in action tonight, actually so we can 0:44:57.827 --> 0:45:01.427 watch some nipple on the court. They play Scotland eight 0:45:01.467 --> 0:45:04.187 o'clock tonight and the New Zealand team have their first 0:45:04.227 --> 0:45:08.547 medals of the Glasgow Commonwealth Games, Lewis Claibert in the 0:45:08.587 --> 0:45:10.987 two hundred meter individual medley. 0:45:11.307 --> 0:45:13.547 But look at this from Duncan Scott. He's a defending 0:45:13.667 --> 0:45:15.747 champion in this Man's stood of movie and he's gonna 0:45:15.747 --> 0:45:16.787 win gold by thinks. 0:45:16.667 --> 0:45:18.747 Charging love is Claireburt. He's going to get that, such 0:45:18.747 --> 0:45:19.227 as just. 0:45:19.307 --> 0:45:22.547 Duncan Scott's Duncan Scott Wan's the gold on the very 0:45:22.627 --> 0:45:26.347 last stroke, my goodness being Lewis Claireber came flying back 0:45:26.387 --> 0:45:29.027 down that last fifty What's a wonderful race. 0:45:29.067 --> 0:45:31.867 That was a great race from Lewis Clarebird who set 0:45:31.907 --> 0:45:34.947 a new New Zealand record, obviously a new personal best 0:45:34.987 --> 0:45:37.827 and improved on the bronze that he won in this 0:45:37.907 --> 0:45:41.347 event four years ago. So a silver for Lewis Clairebird 0:45:41.387 --> 0:45:46.307 in the two hundred individual medley, just behind Scotland's Duncan Scott. 0:45:46.427 --> 0:45:49.627 Erica Fairweather has also picked up silver in the women's 0:45:49.667 --> 0:45:51.427 four hundred meter freestyle. 0:45:51.387 --> 0:45:53.467 But the gold mad that's going to go to Australia's 0:45:53.507 --> 0:45:56.307 ninety Pallister. Her first four hundred med is freestyles higher 0:45:56.467 --> 0:45:57.547 the Tomworlf Games. 0:45:57.547 --> 0:45:58.587 A wonderful swoman. 0:45:58.627 --> 0:46:00.907 Look at that three fifty nine to fifty six and 0:46:01.147 --> 0:46:04.707 grace went from her. The silver's a Fairweather of New Zealand's, 0:46:04.867 --> 0:46:07.187 but the thorns has gone to the sad Australium. 0:46:07.347 --> 0:46:09.067 That's Jenni Forrester Seer. 0:46:08.827 --> 0:46:12.467 Swim Here, well done to Erica Fairweather and Lewis Claire Bert. 0:46:12.507 --> 0:46:15.307 Let's bring in one of the New Zealand swim team 0:46:15.427 --> 0:46:21.147 coaches in Glasgow, massively experienced swim coach at multiple Commonwealth 0:46:21.227 --> 0:46:24.347 and Olympic Games. David Lyles David, a great way to 0:46:24.347 --> 0:46:26.307 start the games for our swim team with a couple 0:46:26.387 --> 0:46:28.107 of medals. How much of a boost is it to 0:46:28.147 --> 0:46:30.707 get to get a couple of your swimmers standing on 0:46:30.747 --> 0:46:32.987 the podium nice and early in the games? 0:46:34.067 --> 0:46:37.387 Huge boost, Jason, Day one. 0:46:37.627 --> 0:46:39.387 If you hit the ground running, then you're off to 0:46:39.627 --> 0:46:42.387 a flying star and things can build momentum from there. 0:46:42.427 --> 0:46:45.867 We've had one hundred percent success rate today converting heats 0:46:45.867 --> 0:46:49.427 and semifinals into finals, and two of those finals into metals, 0:46:49.467 --> 0:46:51.067 so we couldn't really have asked for about a soth. 0:46:51.307 --> 0:46:53.067 Let's have a look at the two races where we've 0:46:53.307 --> 0:46:55.947 got the medals. Erica's race, I heard her afterwards say 0:46:55.987 --> 0:46:58.587 she didn't put the race together very well, but was 0:46:58.627 --> 0:47:01.347 still happy with the outcome. How do you assess her final? 0:47:03.067 --> 0:47:05.267 Well, I mean, that's Erica's first medal at the kom 0:47:05.307 --> 0:47:09.187 Off Games. She's she's incredible, experienced, But that race, if 0:47:09.227 --> 0:47:12.187 you look in the world rankings, the Aussies are stacked, 0:47:12.227 --> 0:47:14.907 the Canadians are stank, the Americans are stacked, and Erica's 0:47:14.987 --> 0:47:17.667 right up there with the best in the world. There's 0:47:17.667 --> 0:47:20.227 a there's a tiny group of girls and ladies that 0:47:20.267 --> 0:47:23.147 have gone sub four minutes. She's lucky to be in there, 0:47:23.267 --> 0:47:25.027 and it just shows, you know, fourth of the Olympic 0:47:25.107 --> 0:47:28.667 second the Komos Komos is not an easy ride for swimming. 0:47:29.187 --> 0:47:31.987 Absolutely not. So she'll be happy with the silver though. 0:47:32.027 --> 0:47:33.587 Like I said, I heard her say afterwards when she 0:47:33.627 --> 0:47:36.507 said she didn't put together the race the way she wanted. 0:47:36.547 --> 0:47:37.627 But what does she mean by that? 0:47:39.027 --> 0:47:41.067 Well, I mean I don't coach Erica personally, but I 0:47:41.107 --> 0:47:44.107 would think that the way she's split and paced the race. 0:47:45.347 --> 0:47:47.867 You know, you have many choices before the race. I'm 0:47:47.907 --> 0:47:49.307 going to go out fast, I'm going to go out 0:47:49.387 --> 0:47:51.187 steady and build. I'm going to go out fast and whole. 0:47:51.227 --> 0:47:53.587 I'm going to negative split, come back faster on the 0:47:53.587 --> 0:47:55.987 second half of the race. And so maybe she's just 0:47:55.987 --> 0:47:57.987 going to go back and rethink a strategy. But she's 0:47:58.107 --> 0:48:02.267 racing Lonie Palliser. I mean, she's, you know, Olympic medalist 0:48:02.307 --> 0:48:04.627 and one of the very top female distance swimmers in 0:48:04.627 --> 0:48:08.387 the world right now, has been you know, within striking 0:48:08.467 --> 0:48:12.267 De Cincellani and you can't underestimate and the success and 0:48:12.347 --> 0:48:13.547 the performers there. 0:48:13.867 --> 0:48:16.667 We also hid three kiwi's in that final, with Caitlin 0:48:16.707 --> 0:48:19.227 Dean's and Eve Thomas there as well. There in itself 0:48:19.267 --> 0:48:22.147 has to be significant, doesn't it. Three Keywi swimmers in 0:48:22.147 --> 0:48:22.507 the final. 0:48:23.467 --> 0:48:24.507 Well, I'm glad you mentioned that. 0:48:24.547 --> 0:48:26.507 I mean we're only allowed to enter three, so we 0:48:26.627 --> 0:48:29.987 got the maximum number of ladies. And I mean those 0:48:29.987 --> 0:48:33.107 three girls of all swam at this level for a 0:48:33.187 --> 0:48:34.507 number of years and to get them all in the 0:48:34.547 --> 0:48:38.227 final from from Letlold, New Zealand is an awesome achievement. 0:48:38.547 --> 0:48:41.147 So Erica on the podium and then we straight away 0:48:41.147 --> 0:48:45.227 afterwards watched Lewis Clarbert one manute fifty six point seven 0:48:45.347 --> 0:48:48.667 seven of pbee and New Zealand record second and he 0:48:48.787 --> 0:48:51.547 was closing in, wasn't he. If there'd been another teen 0:48:51.587 --> 0:48:54.347 meters in that race, you may well have been number 0:48:54.347 --> 0:48:55.027 ten meters. 0:48:55.227 --> 0:48:57.427 Yeah, another ten meters Lewis have had the gold. 0:48:57.467 --> 0:49:00.587 I mean Duncan Scott, a world class swimmer his own right, 0:49:00.667 --> 0:49:03.547 multiple Olympic medalist, come off summer swimming in front of 0:49:03.587 --> 0:49:06.347 his parents, his home crowd, his home nation. I mean 0:49:06.507 --> 0:49:09.147 Duncan was always going to be hard to beat, but 0:49:09.387 --> 0:49:11.667 Lewis was coming back like a train and he gave 0:49:11.707 --> 0:49:15.387 a really good race, awesome PB and a great result. 0:49:15.147 --> 0:49:17.507 For him absolutely. I heard him say afterwards as well 0:49:17.707 --> 0:49:19.787 about his lane draw. If he was a bit closer 0:49:19.827 --> 0:49:22.267 to Duncan Scott might then have made a difference. 0:49:23.307 --> 0:49:25.187 Yeah, it probably would have. I mean it was super 0:49:25.227 --> 0:49:26.067 tight in the heats. 0:49:26.067 --> 0:49:28.467 I think there was four or five boys within a 0:49:28.547 --> 0:49:31.267 tenth of a second. I mean, blink your eyes and 0:49:31.667 --> 0:49:34.507 five guys have finished a race. And so yeah, he 0:49:34.587 --> 0:49:37.427 was just on the wrong side perhaps for that. But yeah, 0:49:37.467 --> 0:49:40.227 he's had an awesome swim national record on day one. 0:49:40.307 --> 0:49:41.867 I think he's going to go well this week. 0:49:42.027 --> 0:49:45.387 Absolutely. And also well, you mentioned before you've had a 0:49:45.427 --> 0:49:48.867 tremendous strike rate in terms of getting swimmers into, you know, 0:49:48.907 --> 0:49:52.467 into finals. I see hazels An oven Hand and Zoe 0:49:52.587 --> 0:49:55.707 Peterson have also made the final of the women's fifty 0:49:55.747 --> 0:49:56.507 meter butterfly. 0:49:58.227 --> 0:50:01.227 Yeah, another great set of results for us, those two 0:50:01.307 --> 0:50:02.387 girls of a world class. 0:50:02.387 --> 0:50:04.867 Obviously, Zoe world junior champion last year. 0:50:04.867 --> 0:50:07.547 Hazel's my swimmer, She's the reason and I'm here, so 0:50:07.587 --> 0:50:11.107 I'm relieved that she's gone through with a fairly high ranking. 0:50:11.347 --> 0:50:14.267 I mean again, she's ranked. She was ranked seventh in 0:50:14.267 --> 0:50:16.507 the world last year. She's ranked third here at the Comwells. 0:50:16.507 --> 0:50:19.627 But the Aussies of South Africans is fighting for medals. 0:50:19.667 --> 0:50:21.947 If we can get at least one of those ladies 0:50:21.947 --> 0:50:24.627 on the podium tomorrow, we've done another fantastic job. 0:50:24.947 --> 0:50:27.547 Well just on Hazeldeen, I mean, you have a pretty 0:50:28.027 --> 0:50:30.227 obviously a very close connection with her. How do you 0:50:30.227 --> 0:50:32.987 assay her chances to find herself on the podium. 0:50:34.107 --> 0:50:36.507 Well, I mean she's coming ranked third, She's going into 0:50:36.547 --> 0:50:38.507 the final ranked third. She had a bit of a 0:50:38.587 --> 0:50:41.067 shaky heat this morning. I think I was fair to say. 0:50:41.107 --> 0:50:42.907 I think I can qualify to say that. 0:50:43.467 --> 0:50:44.107 But she pulled. 0:50:44.347 --> 0:50:47.027 She pulled a much bigger swim tonight. There's still more 0:50:47.027 --> 0:50:50.787 in the tank. She's not on PB yet. But to 0:50:50.787 --> 0:50:52.707 be honest, when you're at this level and it's she's 0:50:52.747 --> 0:50:55.827 a hundredth I think ahead of fourth place, it's who 0:50:55.867 --> 0:50:58.307 touches the wall. The time is really irrelevant. It's about 0:50:58.387 --> 0:50:59.787 racing and finishing. 0:51:00.547 --> 0:51:04.627 What's the swimming venue, like, David, give us give us 0:51:04.667 --> 0:51:07.667 an insight into it, you know, I mean you've seen 0:51:07.707 --> 0:51:09.427 a lot of these, You've seen a lot of pools. 0:51:09.547 --> 0:51:10.467 What's this one like? 0:51:10.947 --> 0:51:13.667 Well, yeah, well, I'll come originally from the UK. 0:51:14.187 --> 0:51:17.187 I've been coming to Glasgow for probably twenty the best part. 0:51:17.027 --> 0:51:18.707 Of twenty years, not more than twenty years. 0:51:19.307 --> 0:51:21.707 The last come Walf Games were held here as well, 0:51:22.067 --> 0:51:23.627 so for those of us old. 0:51:23.547 --> 0:51:26.347 Enough to remember those brings back fond memories. 0:51:26.747 --> 0:51:28.547 Last time we were here we got medals in the 0:51:28.627 --> 0:51:29.707 four hundred prey as well. 0:51:30.667 --> 0:51:34.067 Yeah, the facilities were great. 0:51:33.307 --> 0:51:37.187 And the organization and the staff and everything couldn't be simpler. 0:51:37.187 --> 0:51:38.867 It's been a really good start for us in a 0:51:38.867 --> 0:51:40.267 great venue. We're happy to be here. 0:51:40.987 --> 0:51:42.627 I don't know, don't expect you to tell me if 0:51:42.627 --> 0:51:45.947 this is the case or not, but well, actually the 0:51:45.947 --> 0:51:47.547 first part of the question is do you have a 0:51:47.587 --> 0:51:50.987 middle target as far as the swim team is concerned. 0:51:51.027 --> 0:51:52.467 And I don't expect you to tell me what it is, 0:51:52.507 --> 0:51:53.507 but do you have one? 0:51:55.067 --> 0:51:55.427 Well? 0:51:55.467 --> 0:52:00.067 I think I think, I think we haven't stated one 0:52:00.187 --> 0:52:03.507 publicly and we haven't really discussed it privately between as 0:52:03.507 --> 0:52:06.187 a staff, but we did set the bar really high. 0:52:06.467 --> 0:52:09.827 Fourth fastest ranked from the Commonwealth to be here, so 0:52:09.947 --> 0:52:13.587 everybody that's here. Swimming has a realistic opportunity to be 0:52:13.707 --> 0:52:15.587 top four. And once your top four in those middle 0:52:15.667 --> 0:52:17.787 lanes and you line up on the block, you know 0:52:17.907 --> 0:52:21.187 you've you've got a sniff of a medal. So, I mean, 0:52:21.227 --> 0:52:24.547 everybody could think about coming home with a medal, but 0:52:25.147 --> 0:52:28.547 I mean it's it's a different Kettler fish when you 0:52:28.587 --> 0:52:30.907 start racing some of the best womens in the world. 0:52:30.947 --> 0:52:33.147 So too in the first day, if we could keep 0:52:33.147 --> 0:52:35.427 that average up and finish finish the meet with eight 0:52:35.547 --> 0:52:38.787 ten sort of medals, we'd be coming home pretty happy. 0:52:38.867 --> 0:52:40.907 Yeah, I can imagine. So well, it's a great start 0:52:40.947 --> 0:52:43.787 with Ericafia, withther In Lewis Clearbert leading the way, Lots 0:52:43.827 --> 0:52:45.987 more to come, David, appreciate you taking the time for 0:52:45.987 --> 0:52:47.787 a check. We'll look forward to catching up again throughout 0:52:47.787 --> 0:52:48.187 the games. 0:52:49.507 --> 0:52:50.827 It's an honor to be on newstalks. 0:52:50.867 --> 0:52:52.787 There'd be I listen to you guys every day and 0:52:52.867 --> 0:52:56.267 at the weekend, and yeah, I wondered how long it 0:52:56.267 --> 0:52:59.747 will be before I go on, So yeah, anytime. 0:53:00.747 --> 0:53:02.907 I can't believe we've waited this long. David, great to 0:53:02.987 --> 0:53:05.627 chat to you, mate. Thanks for taking their cool my pleasure. 0:53:05.707 --> 0:53:10.507 Jason David Lyles there. He's part of our coaching team 0:53:10.747 --> 0:53:13.987 for our swimmers. He's been around for a while, international 0:53:13.987 --> 0:53:16.987 swim coach for Great Britain, for China, now for New Zealand. 0:53:17.107 --> 0:53:20.067 So great to have his expertise with us. So a 0:53:20.067 --> 0:53:23.067 couple of silvers, one for Lewis Clarebert, one for Erica 0:53:23.507 --> 0:53:28.067 fair Weather the Common Games when they roll around. I think, 0:53:28.467 --> 0:53:31.867 you know, we all become an expert on sports. We 0:53:31.907 --> 0:53:34.987 don't get the chance to watch as often as we 0:53:35.147 --> 0:53:38.627 otherwise might. You know, we all become experts on the 0:53:38.667 --> 0:53:42.027 different attributes that you need for the clean and jerk, 0:53:42.147 --> 0:53:44.667 or the snatch and weightlifting, or the optimum time to 0:53:44.707 --> 0:53:47.507 stay under water at the start of a backstroke race, 0:53:47.587 --> 0:53:49.187 or what the order of the events is and the 0:53:49.227 --> 0:53:53.307 de Catalon. Things like that and medals are what gets 0:53:53.347 --> 0:53:57.227 us engaged and great to have Lewis and Erica on 0:53:57.307 --> 0:54:00.507 the podium nice and early. Hopefully we get the time 0:54:00.547 --> 0:54:03.067 modern tradition as well of a of an athlete none 0:54:03.067 --> 0:54:05.067 of us have heard of, really, apart from those deeply 0:54:05.067 --> 0:54:07.547 invested in the sport that they're in vested in. Somebody 0:54:07.547 --> 0:54:09.627 who we haven't really heard of, but find themselves on 0:54:09.667 --> 0:54:13.707 the podium, blinking back tears and maybe even on the 0:54:13.747 --> 0:54:16.227 top of the national anthem playing they met Nicki Jenkins, 0:54:16.827 --> 0:54:21.547 the gymnast in nineteen ninety, Darren Ladell, the weightlifter, Tanya 0:54:21.627 --> 0:54:25.307 Murray the high jumper, lots of others who have sort 0:54:25.307 --> 0:54:28.467 of leaped into our consciousness because of their feats at 0:54:28.507 --> 0:54:32.987 Commonwealth Games. And whenever the Commonwealth Games roll around, I 0:54:33.067 --> 0:54:38.107 always hear these opinions being proffered by people. Are you 0:54:38.147 --> 0:54:41.987 know they're not the Olympics, That don't mean anything, They're 0:54:42.027 --> 0:54:45.387 not the World Champs. It's only the Commonwealth Games. Well, 0:54:46.507 --> 0:54:49.467 you tried telling that to anyone who stood on the 0:54:49.467 --> 0:54:52.467 dice and heard the national anthem, or even those who 0:54:52.507 --> 0:54:55.427 get to wear the fern. For many of these athletes, 0:54:56.827 --> 0:55:00.187 the Commonwealth Games is a pinnacle event. They don't just 0:55:00.267 --> 0:55:03.267 mean something, They mean everything to these athletes. Anyone who 0:55:03.307 --> 0:55:05.587 downplays them needs, I reckon to go away, train for 0:55:05.707 --> 0:55:09.427 years and years, sacrifice a lot, experience every part of 0:55:09.467 --> 0:55:12.587 the emotional scale, shed blood, sweat and tears and equal 0:55:12.627 --> 0:55:16.347 measure and then tell me that they're insignificant. Of course, 0:55:16.347 --> 0:55:19.227 they're not going to carry the prestige of the Olympics. 0:55:19.227 --> 0:55:21.427 But you if you enjoy the Commonwealth Games for what 0:55:21.467 --> 0:55:24.547 they are, you can immerse yourself in some familiar and 0:55:24.627 --> 0:55:27.387 unfamiliar sports and find a lot of key. Weis to 0:55:27.507 --> 0:55:29.547 cheer on from the couch, So stock up on the 0:55:29.587 --> 0:55:32.027 coffee and get amongst it. I will be. Here's what 0:55:32.067 --> 0:55:35.347 you've got to look forward to. Tonight eight o'clock Silver Fern, 0:55:35.427 --> 0:55:37.947 Scotland and their first poll match. Good chance to watch 0:55:37.947 --> 0:55:42.427 some nepple on the court. Our artistic gymnasts, June McDonald, 0:55:42.427 --> 0:55:46.347 Courtney McGregor, seeing a shields. They're inaction, swimming plenty of that. 0:55:46.507 --> 0:55:48.027 Eric A fair weathers back in the poll. The two 0:55:48.107 --> 0:55:51.067 hundred freestyle heats tonight, the finals tomorrow morning if she 0:55:51.147 --> 0:55:54.667 makes it, Amber George and Savannah Eve Martin, and the 0:55:54.707 --> 0:55:58.347 one hundred backstroke heats seemis it tomorrow morning. If they 0:55:58.347 --> 0:56:00.507 make it. We've got the four by one hundred meter 0:56:00.627 --> 0:56:05.067 mixed freestyle relay heats. As the name would suggest, two males, 0:56:05.067 --> 0:56:08.587 two females. Eric A fair Weather, Chelsea Edwards, Cameron Gray 0:56:08.587 --> 0:56:12.267 and Carter Swift are our team. They're swimming in the 0:56:12.307 --> 0:56:14.747 heats later on tonight, the final tomorrow morning, and as 0:56:14.787 --> 0:56:18.667 you heard David mentioned that Hazel Owen, Hunt and Zoe 0:56:18.907 --> 0:56:23.467 Peterson are in the women's fifty meter butterfly final tomorrow morning. 0:56:23.507 --> 0:56:26.667 We've got a boxer, Finn bar O'Sullivan in the round 0:56:26.707 --> 0:56:29.667 of thirty two and the men's lightweight sixty kilogram class. 0:56:29.667 --> 0:56:32.907 He fights a Scottish fighter by the name of Nicholas Devlin. 0:56:34.707 --> 0:56:37.587 Three by three basketball New Zealand women in Action they 0:56:37.587 --> 0:56:40.347 play three games overnight tonight and our lawn bowlers as well, 0:56:40.907 --> 0:56:43.787 So lots of keywies to look out for and we'll 0:56:43.787 --> 0:56:46.587 be sure to bring you their successes across the next 0:56:46.587 --> 0:56:48.747 ten days or so. Here on News Talks, head B 0:56:49.427 --> 0:56:51.867 one twenty two. Let's take a break. When we come back, 0:56:51.907 --> 0:56:54.387 we'll head to christ Church where this afternoon the Super 0:56:54.467 --> 0:56:58.067 Rugby OPICCKI Final is taking place. Mata Tuo hosting the 0:56:58.067 --> 0:57:00.907 blues Kendrack Coxedge going to break it down for us when. 0:57:00.787 --> 0:57:01.267 We come back. 0:57:01.907 --> 0:57:04.467 You know, in sport, the best performers have two gears. 0:57:04.627 --> 0:57:07.547 They're quietly reliable when the on the line, and then 0:57:07.587 --> 0:57:10.747 when the moment calls for it, they deliver something special. 0:57:11.027 --> 0:57:15.107 The Volkswagen amarok V six works exactly the same way 0:57:15.427 --> 0:57:19.667 during the week, it's your dependable everyday workhorse, commute, work site, 0:57:19.707 --> 0:57:22.267 school run, whatever gets thrown at it. 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I'll try to be 0:58:31.387 --> 0:58:33.427 more relevant in the future. Get a piny any idea 0:58:33.467 --> 0:58:36.347 where Nicky Jenkins is these days? How great would it 0:58:36.347 --> 0:58:38.947 be to hear from her about what the nineteen ninety 0:58:38.947 --> 0:58:43.547 Commonwealth Games meant to her and how it changed her life? Yeah, 0:58:42.987 --> 0:58:46.467 I think we need to find out. I think in 0:58:46.507 --> 0:58:48.827 the past. I remember in the old radio sport days, 0:58:49.067 --> 0:58:50.387 we used to do a sort of a where are 0:58:50.427 --> 0:58:52.987 they now? Feature? And Nicki Jenkins was one that I 0:58:53.027 --> 0:58:55.987 was always really keen to find out about because he's 0:58:55.987 --> 0:58:59.387 this teenager who just sort of vaulted to a gold 0:58:59.427 --> 0:59:02.147 medal and sort of into New Zealand hearts in nineteen ninety. 0:59:02.787 --> 0:59:06.507 I know she carried on in her gymnastics career. To 0:59:06.547 --> 0:59:09.547 know where she is and Davin to her and you'll 0:59:09.547 --> 0:59:13.867 get on to that producer EXTRAORDINAI he'll find her speaking 0:59:13.947 --> 0:59:16.867 is one involved in swimming for forty years now, says Chrissy, 0:59:16.987 --> 0:59:20.787 I can say with confidence the current elite swimming squad 0:59:21.187 --> 0:59:24.507 is the best since Daniel Loder, Anthony Moss and the 0:59:24.667 --> 0:59:29.147 Ana simsic Era maybe even better. Chrissy, that is great 0:59:29.147 --> 0:59:32.747 to hear, really great to hear, and we look forward 0:59:32.747 --> 0:59:35.307 to more medals from them, and not just this year, 0:59:35.307 --> 0:59:38.107 but ahead to the Los Angeles Olympics in a couple 0:59:38.147 --> 0:59:41.347 of years as well. One twenty seven, let's go to 0:59:41.787 --> 0:59:45.667 rugby because the Super Rugby opicky season reaches its climax 0:59:45.707 --> 0:59:49.027 this afternoon. Mata Tuo hosting the Blues in what is 0:59:49.067 --> 0:59:51.707 shaping is a fascinating final in christ Church. 0:59:52.027 --> 0:59:56.987 Great goaline defense, butter two wide surely and it well 0:59:57.427 --> 1:00:03.147 Sarnson McGhee. Good patience rewarded by the Blues and they 1:00:03.227 --> 1:00:08.027 stretched the advantage back out Tonine Blues are and the 1:00:08.147 --> 1:00:13.147 Poems out and MARKETU will host the decider. The joy 1:00:13.227 --> 1:00:16.627 on the face of the defending champions because they know 1:00:16.707 --> 1:00:19.747 they're going to have another shot at defending the title 1:00:19.787 --> 1:00:21.027 that they won last year. 1:00:21.187 --> 1:00:23.667 Yeah, these two teams have split their meetings this season, 1:00:23.667 --> 1:00:26.427 the Blues winning a thrilling contest last weekend. But much 1:00:26.427 --> 1:00:29.827 are two doing enough to earn home advantage for the final. 1:00:30.187 --> 1:00:33.707 Pretty intriguing battle between the competition's best attack and one 1:00:33.707 --> 1:00:37.467 of its toughest defensive sides. Plenty of Black Fern stars 1:00:37.507 --> 1:00:40.467 on both teams and of course a title on the line. 1:00:40.507 --> 1:00:42.187 So to break it all down, we're joined by former 1:00:42.187 --> 1:00:45.827 Black Ferns captain sixty eight Test black Fern and now 1:00:45.867 --> 1:00:49.507 women's High Performance Pathway manager at New Zealand Rugby, as 1:00:49.507 --> 1:00:52.627 well as rugby commentator and analyst Kendrack cox Edge. Kendra, 1:00:52.667 --> 1:00:54.707 thanks for joining us ahead of this one. Have we 1:00:54.947 --> 1:00:57.907 got the best two teams in the final? Do you think? 1:00:58.547 --> 1:00:58.747 Yeah? 1:00:58.827 --> 1:01:01.107 I'd say I think we've got the two best teams 1:01:01.347 --> 1:01:04.587 in the final. I mean, obviously heavily got as saw 1:01:04.627 --> 1:01:08.467 the Power this season. You know, there's probably three teams 1:01:08.467 --> 1:01:10.707 for the first time ever in this competition. That was 1:01:10.827 --> 1:01:12.427 right down to the wire of who was going to 1:01:12.427 --> 1:01:15.147 make make the final. But I think overall we've got 1:01:15.387 --> 1:01:18.427 the two best teams. Then Clostally obviously unfortunately messed out 1:01:18.427 --> 1:01:18.947 by it by. 1:01:18.867 --> 1:01:21.627 The Power so Mata to earn the right to host 1:01:21.827 --> 1:01:26.067 despite their loss to the Blues last weekend. Psychologically, who 1:01:26.147 --> 1:01:27.747 would have taken more out of the game, the Blues 1:01:27.827 --> 1:01:30.707 with the worn or mater II securing home advantage. 1:01:31.227 --> 1:01:33.827 Well, I think it's can me Max stay like I think, 1:01:33.907 --> 1:01:35.867 you know, it's always good for your confidence to get 1:01:35.867 --> 1:01:38.667 that one leading into a into a final. But at 1:01:38.667 --> 1:01:40.987 the same time, with a loss, you can also learn 1:01:41.267 --> 1:01:42.867 learn quite a lot. And if you can learn and 1:01:42.907 --> 1:01:44.787 fix on the six up on the things that didn't 1:01:44.827 --> 1:01:46.547 go well in that game and lead it into training 1:01:46.587 --> 1:01:48.747 this week and into the game this week, I mean 1:01:48.867 --> 1:01:51.187 kind of find holes. So I think it can go 1:01:51.267 --> 1:01:54.387 either way. I mean, I wouldn't say that Master two 1:01:54.387 --> 1:01:56.947 are underdogs or anything, but like from that lost last week, 1:01:56.987 --> 1:01:59.107 they probably do go in as a slight Oh you 1:01:59.147 --> 1:02:00.907 know they lost last weekend? Can they get up this week? 1:02:00.947 --> 1:02:03.227 And I think, yeah, I've got no idea who's going 1:02:03.267 --> 1:02:05.107 to win win today? And I just thank god that 1:02:05.107 --> 1:02:07.507 we were under the roof because there is terrible down here, 1:02:08.107 --> 1:02:10.987 terrible that's raining and cold. So it's yeah, good that 1:02:11.027 --> 1:02:11.787 will be under the roof. 1:02:11.867 --> 1:02:14.267 Wonderful stuff. Yeah, great for running rugby. It's not great 1:02:14.267 --> 1:02:16.227 in Wellington where I am either, so I think we're 1:02:16.227 --> 1:02:18.067 all in the same boat there. As far as the 1:02:18.107 --> 1:02:20.267 fact that they played each other just so recently at Kendra. 1:02:20.347 --> 1:02:24.267 It's just say last weekend is that important? Today? Is 1:02:24.307 --> 1:02:26.467 that relevant at all? Or do we just clean the 1:02:26.507 --> 1:02:28.467 slate and say this is a Grand Final and none 1:02:28.467 --> 1:02:29.347 of that really matters. 1:02:29.907 --> 1:02:32.387 Yeah, clean slater, as you do, and I assume the 1:02:32.387 --> 1:02:34.587 players we're doing the same. You could say it's kind 1:02:34.587 --> 1:02:36.827 of one all throughout the season, but you go into 1:02:36.867 --> 1:02:39.227 it the clean slate, it's final footy. Anything can happen. 1:02:39.507 --> 1:02:41.307 We all know that we watched that final last year 1:02:41.307 --> 1:02:43.427 against the much Or two and the Blues as well, 1:02:43.467 --> 1:02:45.627 and that came down to the wire with the Braxton 1:02:45.747 --> 1:02:48.267 Johnson McGee got an intercept try which kind of sealed it. 1:02:48.387 --> 1:02:50.467 So I think, you know, it's one of those games, 1:02:50.667 --> 1:02:52.627 as you said, like they're both running footy, they both 1:02:52.667 --> 1:02:54.947 know where the tryline is. I think it's going to 1:02:54.947 --> 1:02:57.467 be good running rug because it'll be dry and just 1:02:57.507 --> 1:03:00.267 the accuracy of both teams is important. You could be 1:03:00.267 --> 1:03:02.787 a cliche and so for much I said, like obviously 1:03:02.827 --> 1:03:04.947 defense swims games. There's a couple of things on the 1:03:05.147 --> 1:03:07.347 HD last week that I know that they would have 1:03:07.347 --> 1:03:09.947 fixed up on leading into today's game. And if they 1:03:09.987 --> 1:03:11.747 get that right, I think we'll go down to the wire. 1:03:12.107 --> 1:03:14.947 No shortage of black ferns on both sides. There's a 1:03:14.947 --> 1:03:17.907 real role call of our top players playing in this 1:03:17.947 --> 1:03:20.587 final this afternoon, and I guess that's understandable once your 1:03:20.587 --> 1:03:24.227 reach Grand Final Day. Anyone in particular Kendro who you 1:03:24.267 --> 1:03:27.747 think might have a really significant impact on this final. 1:03:28.427 --> 1:03:31.027 Yeah, it's say for Martha turd Red kay p or 1:03:31.067 --> 1:03:34.947 Olsen Baker. I think she's scored eight tries in twenty 1:03:34.987 --> 1:03:37.747 twenty six and she's probably you know, that's a try 1:03:37.787 --> 1:03:40.187 a game. So I think someone like her, if she 1:03:40.267 --> 1:03:44.627 can lead that pack around and dominate the ball carrying 1:03:45.187 --> 1:03:47.867 in that tackle area, if they can't stop her, then 1:03:47.907 --> 1:03:50.427 if she gets that front football, I think it's going 1:03:50.507 --> 1:03:52.707 to be difficult for the likes of the Blues. But 1:03:52.747 --> 1:03:55.827 then you match it up with Leana mckelie two on 1:03:55.867 --> 1:03:58.107 the other side, who's a wrecking ball and who I 1:03:58.147 --> 1:04:00.667 think has been really obviously awesome in their lineouts too, 1:04:00.707 --> 1:04:03.707 which adds another both for her. So I think you've 1:04:03.707 --> 1:04:06.787 got Amaranti Setiti, who's an up and coming bolter. They's 1:04:06.787 --> 1:04:08.467 got those types of players, you know, and then you've 1:04:08.467 --> 1:04:11.027 got like a real hate, real hate dement mean, I 1:04:11.067 --> 1:04:13.467 think in a final, and probably a little bit biased 1:04:13.467 --> 1:04:15.947 being a half back, but I think whatever nine and 1:04:15.947 --> 1:04:18.707 ten gets get that team moving around the park early 1:04:18.787 --> 1:04:22.507 and dominates that Church in position, I think we'll end 1:04:22.587 --> 1:04:25.067 up taking out taking out the game. But then as 1:04:25.067 --> 1:04:26.827 long as that, you know, as I said earlier, the 1:04:26.827 --> 1:04:30.107 defense defense fums titles, so that's also going to play 1:04:30.107 --> 1:04:30.947 a big, big. 1:04:30.827 --> 1:04:31.267 Role as well. 1:04:31.347 --> 1:04:33.907 Yeah, I guess when you when you look at team lineups, 1:04:33.907 --> 1:04:35.547 and it's not just half backs who do this, I'm 1:04:35.587 --> 1:04:37.747 sure you sort of do gravitate towards nine and ten, 1:04:37.827 --> 1:04:41.187 don't you. And Tara Turner Rea her Dumont for the Blues, 1:04:41.467 --> 1:04:44.347 I mean real Dumont's been around for forever really, but 1:04:44.387 --> 1:04:47.027 she still seems to have such a big influence on games. 1:04:47.107 --> 1:04:50.027 I mean, without wanting to labor the point, how important 1:04:50.107 --> 1:04:51.507 might she be this afternoon? 1:04:52.027 --> 1:04:55.027 Yeah, in a role like that, it's heavily important. And 1:04:55.107 --> 1:04:56.827 I think with the Blues that I've probably kicked more 1:04:56.827 --> 1:04:58.787 than we've ever seen an over key. And you know, 1:04:58.787 --> 1:05:00.387 if you get your team into the right areas of 1:05:00.387 --> 1:05:02.427 the field, you know, she's a she's a triple threat 1:05:02.707 --> 1:05:05.267 with their game. And I think Musto will know that. 1:05:05.667 --> 1:05:07.907 So the likes of loose forwards, you know, Clipe Wilson 1:05:07.947 --> 1:05:10.507 Baker and that will be targeting, targeting here and making 1:05:10.507 --> 1:05:12.907 sure there's no space for her to get through any gaps. 1:05:12.907 --> 1:05:15.467 But your tens do play a big role, and obviously 1:05:15.467 --> 1:05:18.067 with them to two losing Hanna King for the season, 1:05:18.427 --> 1:05:20.627 but they've got Shanto Pookor who's their experience. So I 1:05:20.667 --> 1:05:23.027 was lucky enough to play with who's also a very 1:05:23.027 --> 1:05:27.107 talented kicker and obviously decision maker who vision decisions pretty 1:05:27.147 --> 1:05:29.747 high too. So you know those types of players we say, 1:05:29.747 --> 1:05:31.907 you know, big players need to make big players in finals. 1:05:32.147 --> 1:05:34.467 It's also an opportunity for the like the young ones 1:05:34.507 --> 1:05:39.347 like Amaranti Satiti to accept her dominance in finals footy. 1:05:39.187 --> 1:05:41.827 The Blues are definitely going into enemy territory. They'll know 1:05:41.907 --> 1:05:43.707 all about it this afternoon under the roofs. They have 1:05:43.747 --> 1:05:47.227 big crowd expected. How much of an advantage might home 1:05:47.307 --> 1:05:47.987 advantage be? 1:05:48.947 --> 1:05:51.267 Yeah, well I was look from obviously World Cup twenty 1:05:51.267 --> 1:05:53.827 twenty one or twenty twenty two. Sorry, you know, like 1:05:53.907 --> 1:05:56.787 having a home home crowd is heavily, heavily important if 1:05:56.827 --> 1:05:58.467 you get you know, to get them behind you. It 1:05:58.467 --> 1:06:01.427 does add an extra player, I would say to your 1:06:01.427 --> 1:06:03.987 team in terms of that, So it is, it is 1:06:04.027 --> 1:06:07.027 always hard and as they've been inside andctually probably getting 1:06:07.067 --> 1:06:08.747 a decent crowd as well. I think there's over ten 1:06:08.787 --> 1:06:12.947 thousand tickets tickets sold now, which is awesome and you 1:06:12.987 --> 1:06:14.667 know you can kind of get up for that time. 1:06:15.027 --> 1:06:16.747 It's the first time in the finals been in the 1:06:16.787 --> 1:06:19.147 South Island. We're in a new stadium. You probably couldn't 1:06:19.147 --> 1:06:21.387 really pick a better Openy Final in terms of the 1:06:21.427 --> 1:06:23.427 teams that are in it, where it is and the 1:06:23.427 --> 1:06:25.187 crowd that's going to roll in there today and. 1:06:25.147 --> 1:06:27.027 The quality of the competition just seems to go up 1:06:27.027 --> 1:06:29.187 every year. And you know, from a Wellington point of view, 1:06:29.427 --> 1:06:31.627 very biased of course, I thought the Hurricanes poler had 1:06:31.627 --> 1:06:33.387 a really good season. No, you just missed out on 1:06:33.947 --> 1:06:36.307 making it through to the Big Dance. The quality seems 1:06:36.347 --> 1:06:40.667 to improve every year. Kendra, how much has Opacky accelerated 1:06:40.707 --> 1:06:42.267 the development of the women's game here? 1:06:43.027 --> 1:06:46.347 Yeah, I think it's been important. It's been awesome to 1:06:46.347 --> 1:06:48.947 see and that's all you ask for someone RFC in 1:06:48.947 --> 1:06:51.387 MySpace in terms of that pathways working in that, but 1:06:51.427 --> 1:06:54.587 also just being a fan and being involved in women's rugby, 1:06:54.627 --> 1:06:57.227 it's really cool to see the competition become so tight, 1:06:57.387 --> 1:06:59.867 so close. You know, it's extended pre season at the 1:06:59.867 --> 1:07:02.467 players are more full time together in season, so you 1:07:02.467 --> 1:07:04.467 can actually see that we've seen the effects that it's 1:07:04.507 --> 1:07:07.147 actually working, you know what which to do in terms 1:07:07.147 --> 1:07:08.907 of giving you and it still needs to be better, 1:07:08.947 --> 1:07:10.747 don't don't get me wrong, but I think it's in 1:07:10.787 --> 1:07:13.147 a really good space and if we continue to grow 1:07:13.187 --> 1:07:15.627 it out, get more games a year, and then hopefully 1:07:15.627 --> 1:07:17.667 in the future we can look at you know, obviously 1:07:17.667 --> 1:07:21.867 Australia kind of can get more competitive across their superw 1:07:22.027 --> 1:07:24.107 as well, and we can compete with them and have 1:07:24.147 --> 1:07:27.147 a crossover competition of some sort of potentially what ideally 1:07:27.187 --> 1:07:30.307 leading into the next World Cup would be the ideal world. 1:07:30.467 --> 1:07:32.827 And beyond this, of course, the Black Fernds go into 1:07:32.907 --> 1:07:34.667 what is a really busy time for them at the 1:07:34.747 --> 1:07:37.387 back end of twenty twenty six. Whitney Hanson no doubt 1:07:37.427 --> 1:07:41.827 will be a very interested spectator this afternoon. You know, 1:07:42.027 --> 1:07:46.267 is it likely that players who really put their hand 1:07:46.307 --> 1:07:48.147 up this afternoon might catch her eye? 1:07:48.867 --> 1:07:51.347 I'd say, you know, when you're thinking about selection. You know, 1:07:51.387 --> 1:07:53.307 I think they'd have a majority of that done. Obviously, 1:07:53.427 --> 1:07:55.747 they get together and in a couple of weeks to 1:07:55.747 --> 1:07:58.547 play the Black Foods Swift then in Australia, so that team, 1:07:58.587 --> 1:08:00.387 I know, the coaches will be in the thicker selection 1:08:00.467 --> 1:08:02.587 at the moment, and you know it might come down 1:08:02.627 --> 1:08:04.947 to two players you know then to compete against the 1:08:04.987 --> 1:08:08.027 other for selection and like today and it can probably 1:08:08.107 --> 1:08:11.147 influence that slightly. But I'd say they probably have ninety 1:08:11.227 --> 1:08:14.387 nine percent of their team kind of selected before before 1:08:14.547 --> 1:08:16.707 you know, before the game. But at the same time, 1:08:16.747 --> 1:08:19.107 we always want to see what's what's out there, who 1:08:19.147 --> 1:08:22.307 does step up, who doesn't, what the future is as 1:08:22.347 --> 1:08:24.267 well of the young ones kind of coming through. As 1:08:24.267 --> 1:08:26.627 we know there's sextra talented and our young ones that 1:08:26.707 --> 1:08:27.347 are coming. 1:08:27.147 --> 1:08:30.027 Through, all right, prediction time, who's lifting this trophy later 1:08:30.067 --> 1:08:35.347 on tonight and and what's the decisive factor in all 1:08:35.387 --> 1:08:35.547 of this? 1:08:36.467 --> 1:08:39.147 Yeah, it's like, honestly, like a lot of people have 1:08:39.187 --> 1:08:41.107 asked me that this weecond. Obviously I played plays for 1:08:41.187 --> 1:08:43.627 MARTERA two. We know how successful the Blues are too 1:08:43.707 --> 1:08:46.587 with the team that they've got, and it's all like 1:08:46.587 --> 1:08:48.427 I'm sitting here going for I actually don't know who's 1:08:48.427 --> 1:08:49.467 going to win. To that it's going to be the 1:08:49.467 --> 1:08:51.907 team who who rocks up on the dan. I'll probably 1:08:51.907 --> 1:08:54.107 able to pick it in the first maybe twenty odd minutes. 1:08:54.187 --> 1:08:56.427 But you'd have to be silly not to back Mater 1:08:56.507 --> 1:08:59.147 two at home and at one end z for the 1:08:59.147 --> 1:09:02.107 first final in the South Island. But it's going to 1:09:02.107 --> 1:09:03.947 be tough with them against the Blues, and I think 1:09:03.947 --> 1:09:06.627 it'll it'll be tight. And they said they'll say kind 1:09:06.627 --> 1:09:08.587 of a couple of things that they needed to fix 1:09:08.707 --> 1:09:11.027 up last week. Then I think they'll go all right, 1:09:11.067 --> 1:09:13.547 and I'd say that, yeah, it'll be a tight game, 1:09:13.587 --> 1:09:14.987 probably within within a try. 1:09:15.227 --> 1:09:19.027 Yeah, seven points, Yeah, mouthwatering, mouthwatering prospect this afternoon. Blues 1:09:19.107 --> 1:09:22.587 vmather to four to twenty under the roof and christych Kendra, 1:09:22.667 --> 1:09:26.267 thanks for previewing the game for us. Understand, you're just 1:09:26.307 --> 1:09:28.107 there is a punz of this afternoon. You just you 1:09:28.147 --> 1:09:29.627 have got to watch you like the rest of us. 1:09:29.947 --> 1:09:32.027 No, I'm just as a normal punt and I'm looking 1:09:32.107 --> 1:09:35.667 looking forward to just watching watching the game and knowing 1:09:35.667 --> 1:09:37.907 that it's going to be a spectacle. So yeah, looking 1:09:37.947 --> 1:09:38.467 forward to that. 1:09:38.627 --> 1:09:40.587 Appreciate you taking that call, Kendra. Enjoy the game this 1:09:40.627 --> 1:09:43.627 afternoon and thanks for your time now, Jason, thank you, no, 1:09:43.707 --> 1:09:46.187 thank you, Kendra. Kendrack Cox Edge there ahead of the 1:09:46.267 --> 1:09:51.107 Super Rugby Opicky final twenty past four this afternoon, and 1:09:51.147 --> 1:09:54.307 he sent me through some facts about Super Rugby Opicky 1:09:54.387 --> 1:09:59.547 this season sixty two points per game on average, nearly 1:09:59.627 --> 1:10:02.987 ten more per game than last year. Ten matches, though 1:10:03.027 --> 1:10:07.187 decided by seven points or fewer, so some close contests. 1:10:07.787 --> 1:10:11.707 He tells me also that Capo Olsen Baker escort eight 1:10:11.747 --> 1:10:14.587 tries the most by any player in a single Super 1:10:14.627 --> 1:10:18.907 Rugby OPIKI season. And in terms of the attendance this afternoon, 1:10:20.107 --> 1:10:26.267 the Opeki attendance record is eleven seven hundred and eighty three. 1:10:27.107 --> 1:10:29.387 Mata III had that many come along to go and 1:10:29.387 --> 1:10:31.387 that was earlier the season. From memory, well, they've already 1:10:31.387 --> 1:10:34.707 sold well over ten thousand tickets to this afternoon. I'm 1:10:34.747 --> 1:10:37.187 hoping to get an update at some stage on on 1:10:37.267 --> 1:10:39.227 where ticket sales are at the moment, but you'd have 1:10:39.267 --> 1:10:42.107 to think with walk ups, etc. That they'll go past 1:10:42.107 --> 1:10:45.027 the eleven seven eighty three, probably closer to fifteen thousand. 1:10:45.067 --> 1:10:47.947 Under the roof there this afternoon. So yeah, so the 1:10:47.947 --> 1:10:49.587 Blues won it last year they beat Masta two in 1:10:49.627 --> 1:10:51.467 the final twenty six nineteen. They also won at the 1:10:51.507 --> 1:10:54.867 previous year beating Chiefs Manawah and Materatu. Last won it 1:10:55.067 --> 1:10:58.507 when they beat Manawah in twenty twenty three. Four twenty 1:10:58.547 --> 1:11:01.107 this afternoon, that is when that game will take place. 1:11:01.147 --> 1:11:02.987 All the best of both of those two teams twenty 1:11:02.987 --> 1:11:05.547 one away from two will take a break head across 1:11:05.587 --> 1:11:09.307 the Tasman talk to Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent, including 1:11:09.307 --> 1:11:15.627 this rather mysterious quote from Cricket Australia CEO Todd Greenberg 1:11:15.667 --> 1:11:19.707 this week about taking an asher's cricket Test to India. 1:11:19.987 --> 1:11:21.947 That and other Australian sporting matters. 1:11:22.147 --> 1:11:26.227 When we come back from brilliant victories to battling selections, 1:11:26.347 --> 1:11:27.387 it's all fair game. 1:11:27.667 --> 1:11:30.267 On Weekend Sport with Jason. 1:11:29.987 --> 1:11:34.747 Vine and the Volkswagen Amarank b Sex Uncompromised Capability, Premium 1:11:34.747 --> 1:11:36.187 Comfort News Talks eNB. 1:11:36.787 --> 1:11:40.067 One two on Weekend Sport. 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How has this been 1:12:39.267 --> 1:12:40.187 greeted over there? 1:12:41.107 --> 1:12:44.347 Yeah, good afternoon, Piney with the amusement. 1:12:45.627 --> 1:12:48.827 Look, we're going to investigate the context of what it 1:12:48.867 --> 1:12:51.387 was said, whether or not it was just a flowing conversation, 1:12:51.507 --> 1:12:53.707 and mid conversation he was as, what about if you 1:12:53.747 --> 1:12:56.707 ever thought of oh no, we're open everything, or he's 1:12:56.787 --> 1:12:59.467 directly come out and sat it as part of their strategy. 1:13:00.547 --> 1:13:05.347 Seems very strange things thing to say. I cannot see 1:13:05.347 --> 1:13:10.827 it ever happening and will not fly like Ashes is like, yeah, 1:13:10.947 --> 1:13:14.347 you just can't. Sorry, but you just can't because it's 1:13:14.387 --> 1:13:17.947 too it means too much to people here and Citi 1:13:17.987 --> 1:13:21.387 who hosted in Australia and same in England. And I 1:13:21.427 --> 1:13:24.827 love progress in sport. I love trying things that there 1:13:24.827 --> 1:13:27.387 are some things that you don't need to try, and yeah, 1:13:27.547 --> 1:13:30.307 this is this is one of my origin over there 1:13:30.307 --> 1:13:33.147 in Auckland. I like that idea because there's three matches 1:13:33.187 --> 1:13:35.387 and it's one anch in you sow I was in Queensland. 1:13:35.707 --> 1:13:39.067 Take the other one somewhere. That's that's fine, but no, 1:13:39.667 --> 1:13:42.067 this is one of those ones that goes in the 1:13:42.067 --> 1:13:44.067 why solve a problem that wasn't a problem in the 1:13:44.347 --> 1:13:45.347 first place basket. 1:13:45.507 --> 1:13:48.147 Yeah, absolutely, it's a yeah, it's a solution looking for 1:13:48.227 --> 1:13:52.667 a problem. I've heard it once said of situations like this, Yeah, 1:13:52.707 --> 1:13:56.267 he's been on the BBC's Stumped podcast. We'd have to 1:13:56.267 --> 1:13:58.907 be open to consider all options. I mean, he's just 1:13:58.947 --> 1:14:01.227 say that. Seems like it's a wide sweeping statement. There 1:14:01.307 --> 1:14:03.707 might have been in the middle of another another conversation. 1:14:04.107 --> 1:14:06.107 He goes on to say, our relationship with the ECB, 1:14:06.547 --> 1:14:09.107 but also the BCCI is very strong. Clearly there are 1:14:09.147 --> 1:14:12.587 opportunities in India to put more content into certain area. 1:14:12.587 --> 1:14:15.027 As much as you start talking about sports content and 1:14:15.267 --> 1:14:16.507 we've got into a bad place. 1:14:17.587 --> 1:14:21.547 Yeah, yeah, we have, but that's the modern language. Look 1:14:21.587 --> 1:14:24.027 that they're taking a big bash game over there, that's fine. 1:14:24.867 --> 1:14:27.987 Ther best like, that's a good idea, promotes Australia, maybe 1:14:27.987 --> 1:14:30.787 tourism as well, so that's all good. But yeah, just 1:14:31.387 --> 1:14:33.347 leave the test matches line. Looking if they're going to 1:14:33.347 --> 1:14:37.347 have it anywhere offshore, either Australia or the British Isles, 1:14:37.827 --> 1:14:39.187 I'm calling for Mount Monganui. 1:14:41.267 --> 1:14:44.107 I think you're yeah, you're angling for a trip to 1:14:44.147 --> 1:14:47.467 the to the wonderful, wonderful Bay of Plenty here and 1:14:47.547 --> 1:14:51.267 I can understand why you'd want to. Absolutely let's move 1:14:51.307 --> 1:14:54.427 on to other matters. Les Kiss has officially taken over 1:14:54.507 --> 1:14:59.027 as Wallaby's rugby coach. What is he inheriting. 1:15:00.027 --> 1:15:03.507 Joe Smith's team, There's only like one, there's only one 1:15:03.587 --> 1:15:08.707 or two changes in the squad. Look, he's inheriting a 1:15:08.747 --> 1:15:11.827 scene that perhaps got a really good schooling in the 1:15:11.827 --> 1:15:15.587 fundamentals of rugby, which makes you kind of look at 1:15:15.627 --> 1:15:19.027 the pathway in Australia and perhaps go, well, why aren't 1:15:19.027 --> 1:15:21.387 they doing that along that pathway? Why do we need 1:15:21.387 --> 1:15:25.027 a coach that has so much experience on the world 1:15:25.067 --> 1:15:28.467 stage and is brought into kind of restructure things In 1:15:28.507 --> 1:15:32.587 a sense, I think he takes over a sight that's 1:15:32.667 --> 1:15:36.827 close but we still don't know how close enough, and 1:15:36.867 --> 1:15:39.467 we'll probably fight. We'll get our first test when we 1:15:39.507 --> 1:15:42.827 play you guys in South Africa and say okay, well 1:15:43.427 --> 1:15:46.267 there we go. I just get the feeling that again, 1:15:46.347 --> 1:15:50.467 now our depth stocks are not quite where they could 1:15:50.507 --> 1:15:53.107 be and should be. And that's the one thing and 1:15:53.187 --> 1:15:55.507 I think Rugby Australia recognize that, and that's why they're 1:15:55.547 --> 1:15:57.747 not going to get all bullish with their money that 1:15:57.747 --> 1:16:00.427 they've got from the Lions and also the World Cup 1:16:00.467 --> 1:16:02.747 and just start spending freely that they're actually going to 1:16:02.747 --> 1:16:05.827 plunge it into proper processes to make sure that all 1:16:05.827 --> 1:16:08.187 of his coaches in ten twenty years time don't have 1:16:08.227 --> 1:16:11.387 the issue of oh my goodness, we've got no depth. 1:16:11.667 --> 1:16:14.627 So you know, not that we don't have depth, we 1:16:14.747 --> 1:16:17.227 just need more of it because it's such a brutal sport. 1:16:17.307 --> 1:16:19.747 So I don't know, how do you guys see us 1:16:19.827 --> 1:16:21.347 in another new era? 1:16:21.547 --> 1:16:21.867 Oh? 1:16:21.907 --> 1:16:24.347 Look, I mean curious, I think more than anything. I mean, 1:16:24.427 --> 1:16:28.307 Joe Schmidt's tenure there I think can best be described 1:16:28.347 --> 1:16:30.587 as as underwhelming. I mean, we're not what a great 1:16:30.667 --> 1:16:33.227 rugby coach he is, but he just couldn't get the results. 1:16:33.227 --> 1:16:35.467 To be fair though, Adam, you know they probably should 1:16:35.467 --> 1:16:37.467 have beaten the British and Irish lions. You know that 1:16:37.747 --> 1:16:40.107 that could you know, and so that would be honest 1:16:40.147 --> 1:16:44.667 CV didn't happen. Look, yeah, time for a change. Is 1:16:44.667 --> 1:16:47.867 there enough runway for Leed's kiss between now and the 1:16:47.907 --> 1:16:50.747 World Cup? I guess we're asking similar questions about Dave 1:16:50.827 --> 1:16:52.987 re any over here. Is there enough time for them 1:16:52.987 --> 1:16:54.907 to put together an all black side that can challenge 1:16:55.027 --> 1:16:57.467 South Africa and others for the Rugby World Cup? But 1:16:57.547 --> 1:16:59.667 what you've got Japan and a couple of test matches, 1:16:59.707 --> 1:17:04.067 haven't you then we're into the rugby champion. Yeah. Look, 1:17:04.067 --> 1:17:06.467 I'm looking forward to seeing how how we shad up 1:17:06.507 --> 1:17:09.147 against you in October, looking forward to seeing seeing the 1:17:09.187 --> 1:17:10.427 Wallabies underleast. 1:17:10.067 --> 1:17:13.107 Kiss likewise, Yeah, likewise. 1:17:12.787 --> 1:17:16.827 Let's go to NRL. The NRL trouble at the West Tigers. 1:17:17.267 --> 1:17:19.627 But a friction, was it? Adam Dowey? You said, I 1:17:19.627 --> 1:17:21.307 don't want to play in that position, so I'm not 1:17:21.387 --> 1:17:24.307 going to play at all, storming out of training. What's 1:17:24.347 --> 1:17:24.947 going on here? 1:17:27.027 --> 1:17:30.587 Confusing story? So earlier in the week that came out 1:17:30.907 --> 1:17:35.547 and then he got absolutely pillared by everyone for not 1:17:35.827 --> 1:17:38.547 being team first. As a weird I was down. That 1:17:38.627 --> 1:17:40.667 dropped in the Herald in the last twelve hours, which 1:17:40.827 --> 1:17:44.467 just looks like it was it was written by a 1:17:44.507 --> 1:17:47.427 journalists who has fed good info from the Adam Dewis 1:17:47.467 --> 1:17:50.427 side of the situation. He didn't talk, but you know 1:17:50.467 --> 1:17:53.347 it was obvious where the info was coming from, saying no. 1:17:54.027 --> 1:17:59.347 I basically wasn't in the headspace to play, so it 1:17:59.387 --> 1:18:02.507 was better for everyone else around me because I feel 1:18:02.507 --> 1:18:05.547 like I'm putting absolutely everything into this club and others aren't. 1:18:06.067 --> 1:18:07.627 And I think he's having a bit of a crack 1:18:07.667 --> 1:18:10.867 there at Jerome Louie, I'm not sure about, you know, 1:18:11.107 --> 1:18:13.587 putting team perst doing all this. And Adam dow is 1:18:13.627 --> 1:18:16.427 a guy who's lived through I think three or four 1:18:16.507 --> 1:18:20.107 atls he's had to come back from, so he's done it. 1:18:20.067 --> 1:18:20.587 The hard way. 1:18:21.507 --> 1:18:25.707 He is the best player this year. Undoubtily, he's like 1:18:25.787 --> 1:18:27.667 when he's not played an happy chorus out as well, 1:18:27.707 --> 1:18:28.987 the Tigers will look far worse. 1:18:29.547 --> 1:18:31.307 But yeah, I don't know what. 1:18:31.307 --> 1:18:33.747 Benji was playing out and bringing the kid through probably 1:18:33.747 --> 1:18:37.107 deserves his debut, but at the expense of ticking off 1:18:37.507 --> 1:18:40.227 your best performer when street and available is a weird one. 1:18:40.227 --> 1:18:43.547 And then do what this article is saying is he's 1:18:43.547 --> 1:18:46.867 basically said to the coach and the CEO, Look, I'm 1:18:46.907 --> 1:18:49.347 not in the headspace after everything that I feel like 1:18:49.427 --> 1:18:52.427 I'm doing and putting in absolutely everything to get the 1:18:52.507 --> 1:18:54.627 best out of this team. Then I'll get true. 1:18:54.507 --> 1:18:54.867 To like that. 1:18:55.227 --> 1:18:57.787 I think it's best for everyone that I just take 1:18:57.827 --> 1:18:59.427 a week off, take a breath, and I'll come back 1:18:59.427 --> 1:19:02.627 and play next week. So it's a weird story, very 1:19:02.667 --> 1:19:06.027 weird story offer out of a club that is kind 1:19:06.027 --> 1:19:08.667 of just the experts in dealing up dishing up with 1:19:08.827 --> 1:19:11.187 stories Yeah, we've got the Raiders later on today, haven't 1:19:11.187 --> 1:19:12.027 they up against it there? 1:19:12.147 --> 1:19:14.507 So we'll see how they go there. Just before you go, 1:19:15.107 --> 1:19:18.947 mess of some schedule coming up for the Australian cricket team. 1:19:18.987 --> 1:19:23.107 This is obviously, you know, pretty normal for the Aussie 1:19:23.107 --> 1:19:24.907 cricket team, and we're coming over there of course for 1:19:24.947 --> 1:19:27.587 a highly anticipated tour later in the year and into 1:19:27.587 --> 1:19:31.147 the early part of next year. The Willow Talk Cricket 1:19:31.187 --> 1:19:33.707 podcast will know about be firing up again soon. 1:19:34.827 --> 1:19:38.707 Well in a way, yes, we're back together again. We've 1:19:39.067 --> 1:19:42.707 breck branded myself, Alisahay and New Zealand's favorite son, Brad 1:19:42.747 --> 1:19:44.027 Hadn't we. 1:19:45.787 --> 1:19:47.467 Love that man. We love that man. 1:19:48.387 --> 1:19:52.547 We're calling it keeping it Cricket, so we're doing it independently, 1:19:52.627 --> 1:19:54.547 so you'll have to find us again. It's called keeping 1:19:54.587 --> 1:19:57.747 It Cricket. We'll be doing the same old thing, same 1:19:57.747 --> 1:20:00.507 old stick like, just talking anything about cricket that's interesting 1:20:00.547 --> 1:20:02.867 and a few other things about life that's interesting as well. 1:20:03.827 --> 1:20:07.707 I actually I had was tasked with doing the set 1:20:07.787 --> 1:20:13.507 dressing Piney, so I've got two photos in particular, so 1:20:13.587 --> 1:20:16.547 hearly that was an easy one. That magnificent moment in 1:20:16.587 --> 1:20:19.027 twenty twenty when the women won the T twenty World 1:20:19.027 --> 1:20:20.867 Cup at the MCG in front of eighty thousand kdy 1:20:20.867 --> 1:20:22.267 pair and everything like that. So I've got the team 1:20:22.267 --> 1:20:24.107 shut there and I thought the hats, which one am 1:20:24.147 --> 1:20:26.147 I going to get? So I ended up laughing. On 1:20:26.827 --> 1:20:30.227 MCG twenty fifteen, first over of the World Cup final, 1:20:30.307 --> 1:20:35.547 Brad Hadden celebrating the dismissal of B McCullum Bold M stuck. 1:20:36.027 --> 1:20:40.867 So that's the photo of hats, So just to improve 1:20:40.947 --> 1:20:44.627 relations between him and your foreign country of that's going 1:20:44.667 --> 1:20:46.027 to be on the set of the podcast. 1:20:46.467 --> 1:20:49.947 Yeah, well it was. I'm not sure it'll necessarily enhance 1:20:49.987 --> 1:20:53.387 your viewership over here, but I do like the way 1:20:53.427 --> 1:20:55.507 you're thinking. So keep it in cricket. Is that the 1:20:55.587 --> 1:20:59.467 name of the of the pod? Now, Keeping it, keeping it, cricket, 1:20:59.547 --> 1:21:02.387 keeping it, cricket, keeping it, cricket, got it, got it? 1:21:02.587 --> 1:21:06.587 Yeah, to two wicket keepers that didn't mind it. Chat 1:21:06.667 --> 1:21:08.907 VI on the stunt a chat by on a microphone 1:21:08.907 --> 1:21:09.227 as well. 1:21:10.067 --> 1:21:12.227 Good content, good content. Look forward to hearing that across 1:21:12.267 --> 1:21:15.307 the next little while. And are you of course on 1:21:15.547 --> 1:21:17.747 ZB here most say today so we'll do it again 1:21:17.787 --> 1:21:21.347 next week. So no, thank you, mate. That's Adam Peacock, 1:21:21.387 --> 1:21:26.347 our regular Australian correspondence, his usual slot here on News 1:21:26.347 --> 1:21:29.147 Talk ZB. I'm not exactly sure that using Brad Hadden 1:21:29.227 --> 1:21:33.227 to enhance New Zealand viewership or listenership podcast is the 1:21:33.227 --> 1:21:35.907 best strategy, but I'm pretty sure we're not the target market. 1:21:36.147 --> 1:21:40.027 Keeping a cricket Adam Peacock, Brad Hadd and Alyssa Heally, 1:21:40.067 --> 1:21:42.187 it's a it's a good listen, a really good listen. 1:21:42.267 --> 1:21:43.747 Eight away from two News TALKSB. 1:21:44.307 --> 1:21:48.467 The biggest names and sport are here Weekend Sport with 1:21:48.747 --> 1:21:50.907 Jason Vine, News Talk ZB. 1:21:51.307 --> 1:21:54.707 Coming up five to two. Nathan says on Tescao Jason 1:21:54.707 --> 1:21:57.547 off to the under eighty five kilogram final mass EV 1:21:57.827 --> 1:22:02.507 Silverdale at Silverdale this afternoon. Whether not looking too flash 1:22:02.507 --> 1:22:04.747 reminds me of another big final this year, says Nathan. 1:22:06.707 --> 1:22:09.907 Nathan looking forward to some great rugby. Indeed, yes, the 1:22:10.027 --> 1:22:13.667 Silverdale under Ready fives against the Massy under Ready five's 1:22:14.027 --> 1:22:19.427 Grand Final this afternoon Silverdale Park two forty five kickoff 1:22:19.987 --> 1:22:23.787 Silverdale war Memorial Park to give it its correct name. 1:22:24.867 --> 1:22:27.427 There's a DJ on between four thirty and eight thirty 1:22:27.467 --> 1:22:30.067 as well, so that's great once the game's finished. But 1:22:30.067 --> 1:22:32.867 if a DJ says here on the poster, bring the vibes, 1:22:33.507 --> 1:22:36.867 I'm sure you will. To Silverdale War Memorial Park under 1:22:36.907 --> 1:22:40.667 Ready five final this afternoon, Silveradale against MASSI. Thanks for 1:22:40.747 --> 1:22:42.707 letting us know, Nath. If there's something you want to 1:22:42.707 --> 1:22:45.067 tell us about and let us tell other people about, 1:22:45.187 --> 1:22:48.187 please text it through nineteen nine and two after two o'clock, 1:22:48.227 --> 1:22:52.027 Peter Berling's on the show Sale GP has hit Portsmouth 1:22:52.067 --> 1:22:55.667 in the UK. The Blackfoils are back on the water. 1:22:55.707 --> 1:22:57.787 Of course, they had four months offered after the crash 1:22:57.827 --> 1:23:02.947 in Auckland. They returned in Halifax, Canada last month, so 1:23:03.027 --> 1:23:05.067 this is their second regatta back in their new boat. 1:23:05.627 --> 1:23:08.027 They were fifth the last regatta in Halifax. How they 1:23:08.187 --> 1:23:11.227 shaping towards the weekend. Peter Berlin going to join us 1:23:11.307 --> 1:23:13.507 after the news at two and incash you missed it 1:23:13.507 --> 1:23:13.867 as well. 1:23:15.707 --> 1:23:19.387 The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on on. 1:23:20.267 --> 1:23:22.507 Have had off the field better story. 1:23:23.067 --> 1:23:26.147 It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and the 1:23:26.227 --> 1:23:30.747 Volkswagen amarok V SX on Youth Talks ENV your Home 1:23:30.787 --> 1:23:31.307 of Sport. 1:23:31.907 --> 1:23:34.187 They're coming up two oh seven. Welcome in or back 1:23:34.227 --> 1:23:35.947 to the show, as the case may be. I'm Jason 1:23:35.987 --> 1:23:38.267 Pine Andy mc donald running things here for Weekend Sport. 1:23:38.307 --> 1:23:40.987 We're here till three to beverage after three with the 1:23:40.987 --> 1:23:44.867 Weekend Collective. Dave Rennie three from three to start his 1:23:44.947 --> 1:23:48.387 tenure as All Blacks head coach. What would the challenges 1:23:48.427 --> 1:23:51.987 have been coming into the environment for Dave Rennie or 1:23:52.027 --> 1:23:55.947 for any new coach coming in trying to stamp their 1:23:56.027 --> 1:23:59.667 mark on it, but also paying tribute and respecting the 1:23:59.747 --> 1:24:02.827 legacy of the jersey and what's been achieved up until now. 1:24:03.307 --> 1:24:06.547 Our coach in Guru Wayne Goldsmith this hour on that 1:24:06.667 --> 1:24:10.347 dynamic and where Dave Rennie should be focusing his attention, 1:24:10.467 --> 1:24:13.547 perhaps in the short time he has or the relatively 1:24:13.587 --> 1:24:16.187 short time he has between now and next Rugby World Cup. 1:24:16.347 --> 1:24:18.347 Les Kis has got the same issue, hasn't he? Going 1:24:18.347 --> 1:24:21.227 into the Australian environment. Just on the All Blacks two 1:24:21.507 --> 1:24:24.347 they name their squad for the South African tour on 1:24:24.467 --> 1:24:28.427 Monday tomorrow. On the show, we'll kick around who might 1:24:28.467 --> 1:24:31.427 be added to the thirty four because you'd have to 1:24:31.427 --> 1:24:33.787 expect that they would all go. I'll add ten more, 1:24:33.827 --> 1:24:37.627 which positions, who's in the running, all that sort of thing. Yeah, 1:24:37.627 --> 1:24:40.547 we'll cover that off on the show tomorrow, Peter Berling. 1:24:40.667 --> 1:24:45.547 Shortly your calls and correspondents always welcome, oh eight hundred 1:24:45.547 --> 1:24:47.427 and eighty ten eighties in number nineteen ninet two for 1:24:47.427 --> 1:24:53.547 your text or for slightly longer correspondents Jason at NEWSTALKSVB 1:24:53.667 --> 1:24:56.547 dot co dot nz. But as we approach eight past seven, 1:24:56.787 --> 1:24:58.947 as we always eight past seven, eight pass two, as 1:24:58.947 --> 1:25:02.147 we always do on We Can Sport, it's time to 1:25:02.187 --> 1:25:05.227 catch you up with some of the stuff you might 1:25:05.267 --> 1:25:08.587 have missed, in case you missed it. Starting on the 1:25:08.627 --> 1:25:11.787 Tour de France, a record climb of Alp Duez overnight 1:25:11.827 --> 1:25:12.987 by guess who. 1:25:13.547 --> 1:25:18.107 Taday Pegacia on the up to ass is going to 1:25:18.147 --> 1:25:22.347 be the champion of this mythical climb. He comes up 1:25:22.387 --> 1:25:27.267 the last little section Tarde, Pegaca has struck. On the 1:25:27.307 --> 1:25:30.947 out t Ass, a tornado has ripped across the twenty 1:25:30.987 --> 1:25:33.387 one half in bads, Pigaca. 1:25:32.947 --> 1:25:36.587 Wins absolutely blitzing the field. Two stages to go and 1:25:36.707 --> 1:25:41.467 he's over seven minutes ahead of his closest rival. To 1:25:41.627 --> 1:25:45.387 the Glasgow Commonwealth Games, our men's three x three basketball 1:25:45.427 --> 1:25:48.347 team overcame an early loss to Australia. They won their 1:25:48.347 --> 1:25:49.147 next two games. 1:25:49.667 --> 1:25:55.187 Sunch Lewis carls On through again and that will be it. 1:25:57.547 --> 1:25:59.347 And another chapter in the book. 1:25:59.787 --> 1:26:02.947 From New Zealand across to the NRL are late daily 1:26:03.147 --> 1:26:08.067 Cherry Evans dagger sunk the Knights scrum. Looker at it 1:26:08.147 --> 1:26:09.067 Boltoya here. 1:26:08.947 --> 1:26:12.187 He goes the woman for a track. 1:26:12.307 --> 1:26:15.547 Oh yes, when did it up till late long? 1:26:17.547 --> 1:26:19.107 Maybe four or five is not. 1:26:19.187 --> 1:26:21.907 Beyond death here the roost is up to second for now. 1:26:22.107 --> 1:26:24.867 The Night's drop down to seventh and have a deepening 1:26:25.267 --> 1:26:30.107 injury crisis, including Dylan Brown, who has done his acl 1:26:30.187 --> 1:26:33.107 by the sounds of things, so that's him the key. 1:26:33.147 --> 1:26:36.067 We out of the upcoming Rugby League World Cup unfortunately, 1:26:36.147 --> 1:26:38.347 and for the rabbit Os they may have put an 1:26:38.387 --> 1:26:42.547 end to the Melbourne Storms already pretty slim finals hopes. 1:26:43.107 --> 1:26:43.747 Melbourne up. 1:26:43.787 --> 1:26:49.907 They two hug Freeze La plumb for Walker, Edward over 1:26:49.987 --> 1:26:52.027 the top, Graham's on his way. 1:26:52.627 --> 1:26:54.387 The Rabbits in the front. 1:26:54.827 --> 1:26:56.827 They say Sorr is out of control. 1:26:57.667 --> 1:27:01.067 That's offens access. The Rabs are back. 1:27:00.947 --> 1:27:06.227 In fronts analyzing the pleas and getting the insight. Weekend 1:27:06.387 --> 1:27:08.987 Sport with Jason Vine News talks. 1:27:09.027 --> 1:27:12.267 He'd be ten pass to the Warriors play toonight of 1:27:12.267 --> 1:27:14.387 course as well against the Bulldogs. We'll cover that tomorrow too, 1:27:14.427 --> 1:27:17.867 whatever should happen at a core stadium. But sale GP 1:27:18.067 --> 1:27:21.347 gets to Portsmouth on England's South coast this weekend. The 1:27:21.387 --> 1:27:24.307 Black Foils looking to build on and encouraging return to 1:27:24.387 --> 1:27:28.987 racing in Halifax, Canada last month after spending four months 1:27:29.027 --> 1:27:32.547 off the water following that dramatic crash in Auckland back 1:27:32.547 --> 1:27:36.107 in February, New Zealand with fifth in Canada and Ode 1:27:36.347 --> 1:27:38.787 hoping for another step forward this weekend. We're joined by 1:27:38.787 --> 1:27:42.427 Black Foyle's co CEO and driver Peter Berling. Thanks for 1:27:42.427 --> 1:27:44.707 your time has always better. How satisfied were you with 1:27:44.747 --> 1:27:48.307 the way the team returned to racing in Halifax after 1:27:48.387 --> 1:27:49.827 four months off the water. 1:27:50.547 --> 1:27:54.107 Yeah, it was awesome to get racing, to be honest, 1:27:54.187 --> 1:27:56.547 not massively set aside of the result. I felt like 1:27:56.627 --> 1:27:58.907 were was certainly well enough to make it through to 1:27:58.947 --> 1:28:01.587 the final. See I had a great battle with Spain 1:28:01.627 --> 1:28:05.187 and that that last race to you know, eventually they 1:28:05.347 --> 1:28:07.707 just managed to beat for that that final spot from 1:28:07.747 --> 1:28:10.427 from outside of the draw. So yeah, I think, you know, 1:28:10.507 --> 1:28:12.547 I'm saying that for the team to be up for 1:28:12.587 --> 1:28:14.667 four months and you know, to still feel like a 1:28:14.747 --> 1:28:18.227 disappointing results to mister final and the way we did 1:28:18.307 --> 1:28:19.507 is I think really. 1:28:19.347 --> 1:28:21.387 Associate at the standard we're able to operate. 1:28:21.427 --> 1:28:23.587 It in massive credit to everyone in the group to 1:28:24.147 --> 1:28:27.027 better keep that standard high during the During the period. 1:28:26.747 --> 1:28:29.947 Off the water, did you feel immediately at home in 1:28:29.987 --> 1:28:31.307 your new boat or not? 1:28:33.947 --> 1:28:34.187 Yeah? 1:28:34.627 --> 1:28:36.867 To be honest, that the venues probably feel make the 1:28:36.907 --> 1:28:39.587 boats feel more different than the actual actual boats themselves. 1:28:40.427 --> 1:28:42.827 You know, we you know, the shaw Cream and the 1:28:42.867 --> 1:28:44.587 rest of the group did an amazing job setting up the 1:28:44.627 --> 1:28:50.267 boat very similarly to how we normally have it. And yeah, 1:28:50.267 --> 1:28:55.347 it definitely felt very normal straight away with all the 1:28:55.667 --> 1:28:58.707 graphics and and everything that kind of makes it makes 1:28:58.707 --> 1:28:59.227 it our boat. 1:28:59.427 --> 1:29:03.627 So yeah, the boat was absolutely awesome and you looking 1:29:03.667 --> 1:29:05.587 forward to to showing what she can do. You know 1:29:05.627 --> 1:29:06.827 this weekend, have. 1:29:06.827 --> 1:29:09.707 You shifted your focus as a team from from chasing 1:29:09.707 --> 1:29:14.547 the overall title to now just trying to win individual regattas. 1:29:17.027 --> 1:29:19.707 I wouldn't say that's a conscious shift and focus, but 1:29:19.787 --> 1:29:22.347 you know, we definitely, you know, we need to go 1:29:22.467 --> 1:29:26.547 there and perform. You know, we've always I mean the 1:29:26.587 --> 1:29:29.667 team's always had the kind of duel I suppose goals 1:29:29.707 --> 1:29:32.307 of you know, trying to keep that rate of improvement 1:29:32.347 --> 1:29:35.307 super high and also perform at the highest level across 1:29:35.307 --> 1:29:38.227 these events. So that definitely hasn't changed. Obviously, we've been 1:29:38.267 --> 1:29:40.787 off the water for four months now and it's become 1:29:41.427 --> 1:29:44.107 quite mathematically hard for us to make it through to 1:29:44.147 --> 1:29:45.707 the final, and you know, the best thing we can 1:29:45.747 --> 1:29:48.107 do to give ourselves kind of the best shot of 1:29:48.107 --> 1:29:50.747 that is to go there and try and when these 1:29:50.827 --> 1:29:53.227 races really our best look forward and you know, we're 1:29:53.227 --> 1:29:55.987 super excited by the I suppose chance we've got to 1:29:56.227 --> 1:29:57.987 be able to go out there and do that this weekend. 1:29:58.067 --> 1:30:00.707 You know, we've performed really well and in Portsmanth of 1:30:00.707 --> 1:30:04.227 Love last year, I really really know the venue well 1:30:04.267 --> 1:30:06.307 and enjoy the SAT again. 1:30:06.467 --> 1:30:09.387 Yeah, of course I'll win in Portsmouth last year at 1:30:09.427 --> 1:30:12.307 the at the same event. So going back there a 1:30:12.347 --> 1:30:14.347 place you've had good success in the past, is that 1:30:14.467 --> 1:30:16.547 at a layer of confidence for you? 1:30:18.187 --> 1:30:18.427 Yeah? 1:30:18.427 --> 1:30:20.747 I think it definitely layers adds a layer of confidence. 1:30:20.827 --> 1:30:25.987 You know, Portsmouth is reasonably I suppose challenging venue in 1:30:26.067 --> 1:30:29.987 terms of the shifting nature of the racetrack here, and 1:30:30.107 --> 1:30:31.867 you know, we really felt like we had a good 1:30:31.987 --> 1:30:35.387 grasp on that last year, so I'm really excited to 1:30:36.027 --> 1:30:37.187 get stack out of their racing. 1:30:37.427 --> 1:30:41.747 NFLA were still finding our I suppose traps a little bit. 1:30:43.467 --> 1:30:47.547 In Halifax, particularly when we use the configuration on the 1:30:47.547 --> 1:30:51.507 second day, which you know, we definitely haven't used in 1:30:51.507 --> 1:30:54.507 that wind strength ever before, so it took a little 1:30:54.507 --> 1:30:56.667 bit of getting used to that, you compared to the 1:30:56.667 --> 1:30:58.747 rest of the fleet that's done a couple of events 1:30:58.747 --> 1:31:00.587 and then that exact configuration. 1:31:00.707 --> 1:31:02.067 But yeah, I don't think we've. 1:31:02.027 --> 1:31:03.707 Seen that this weekend, back to kind of a more 1:31:03.747 --> 1:31:07.867 standard Yeah, twenty four meter wing speed foils set up 1:31:07.907 --> 1:31:10.507 and yeah, something we really enjoy racing that setup. 1:31:10.827 --> 1:31:15.667 We saw the fleet split in Halifax group racing, I 1:31:15.667 --> 1:31:18.107 think it's called officially. Is that likely to happen again 1:31:18.107 --> 1:31:19.867 this weekend in Portsmouth. 1:31:21.187 --> 1:31:24.107 Yeah, they're actually just conplearned that they're going to draw 1:31:24.107 --> 1:31:26.907 it for the rest of the season. Then yeah, we've 1:31:26.907 --> 1:31:30.267 definitely ended up on what i'd call the pool of 1:31:30.307 --> 1:31:36.107 death side again both the Australians, Spanish again and you 1:31:36.107 --> 1:31:40.267 know French. So yeah, and the seven teams, not the six. 1:31:40.467 --> 1:31:42.027 It deffinitely feels like we're in the hardest side of 1:31:42.067 --> 1:31:45.707 the draw. But now I'm saying that that's to be honest, executive, 1:31:45.747 --> 1:31:47.347 we want to be Yeah, we want to be adversing 1:31:47.427 --> 1:31:51.387 the strong teams and giving ourselves the best shot at 1:31:52.387 --> 1:31:55.347 taking them down and learning the most we can. 1:31:55.467 --> 1:31:57.707 So excited to get into that challenge this weekend. 1:31:58.027 --> 1:32:00.147 How much does that change the way you race? Having 1:32:00.707 --> 1:32:02.987 you know, rather than having thirteen boats out on the 1:32:03.067 --> 1:32:06.147 race course, having seven, how much of a change is 1:32:06.427 --> 1:32:08.867 in the way you approach a race. 1:32:10.467 --> 1:32:11.387 Changes excessively. 1:32:11.747 --> 1:32:15.427 I'm just I mean, just the wind shadows around the 1:32:15.467 --> 1:32:18.027 course go down heaps, and it feels like there's a 1:32:18.707 --> 1:32:21.867 whole heap of space out there on the racetrack. And yeah, 1:32:21.907 --> 1:32:24.427 it definitely comes down a lot more to both speed 1:32:24.507 --> 1:32:29.467 and handling and being clean around the racetrack where it 1:32:29.587 --> 1:32:33.427 was the bigger, the bigger fleets. You know, the start 1:32:33.747 --> 1:32:37.587 becomes incredibly important. And yeah, that I suppose positioning of 1:32:37.667 --> 1:32:41.187 the boat. You know, there's not many opportunities to to 1:32:41.227 --> 1:32:43.227 really go forward, so that you've got to be really 1:32:43.267 --> 1:32:44.867 careful how you go about things. 1:32:45.667 --> 1:32:47.987 You know, it's definitely, you know, something you have to 1:32:47.987 --> 1:32:48.427 evolve to. 1:32:48.507 --> 1:32:51.267 But to be honest, it's been something that in practice racing, 1:32:51.307 --> 1:32:54.467 we've we've done a whole heap over the over the years, 1:32:54.667 --> 1:32:57.547 the last couple of years, so it's something we've all 1:32:57.587 --> 1:32:58.667 become pretty familiar with. 1:32:59.507 --> 1:33:02.067 After Auckland, when you got to Halifax and back into 1:33:02.067 --> 1:33:06.907 a race situation, Pete, did you find yourself approaching risk 1:33:07.387 --> 1:33:13.067 any differently, Oh, to. 1:33:13.507 --> 1:33:17.187 Be honest, yeah, I think you know, we obviously had 1:33:17.187 --> 1:33:20.987 a massive dive into the incident in Auckland and you 1:33:21.027 --> 1:33:24.187 know what you potentially could have done different and you're 1:33:24.187 --> 1:33:29.387 definitely getting into some pretty pretty minor details or very 1:33:29.427 --> 1:33:32.947 minute details. Yeah, I think everyone on board did it 1:33:32.947 --> 1:33:36.387 actually a really good job doing their role missing the Italians, 1:33:36.387 --> 1:33:40.667 and there's obviously little details you would would do looking 1:33:40.707 --> 1:33:43.267 back at it. But yeah, I think it's one that 1:33:43.467 --> 1:33:47.867 you know, both the leagues made some good changes now 1:33:47.907 --> 1:33:49.467 to the system to allow us to be a bit 1:33:49.467 --> 1:33:54.707 more responsive and also I suppose these kind of ongoing 1:33:54.787 --> 1:33:57.387 changes to to really address the issue long term. So 1:33:57.427 --> 1:34:04.707 it's yeah, it feels like, yeah, something that it was 1:34:04.747 --> 1:34:08.147 one of those situations where a whole heap of I 1:34:08.227 --> 1:34:11.907 suppose events happened at once to lead to a really 1:34:12.187 --> 1:34:16.747 nasty outcome, and yeah, we're really thankful that we've managed 1:34:17.027 --> 1:34:22.507 to get through that now. Obviously louis still still in recovery. Yeah, 1:34:22.507 --> 1:34:24.387 he was definitely the on our team, the one that 1:34:26.147 --> 1:34:29.187 yet got hurt the most, and you know, we're definitely 1:34:29.347 --> 1:34:32.627 still supporting him as much as we can through that recovery. 1:34:32.747 --> 1:34:35.107 And that definitely feels a little weird to be back 1:34:35.107 --> 1:34:38.827 out racing without him, But you know, he's been incredibly 1:34:38.867 --> 1:34:40.667 supportive to the team to get back out there on 1:34:40.707 --> 1:34:43.467 the water, and I think that's made it a lot 1:34:43.467 --> 1:34:45.467 easier for the rest of us to to be able 1:34:45.507 --> 1:34:47.827 to get out there and switch in and do our jobs. 1:34:48.227 --> 1:34:50.347 So in the lead into Halifax, then you didn't have 1:34:50.387 --> 1:34:51.867 any doubt in your mind, did you? 1:34:51.987 --> 1:34:52.347 Did you? 1:34:52.587 --> 1:34:54.467 I don't know, think to yourself, I might second guess 1:34:54.507 --> 1:34:57.107 myself out on the water if a situation like that 1:34:57.187 --> 1:35:01.467 arises again, you were you were reasonably confident that instinct 1:35:01.547 --> 1:35:04.507 would just would just kick in and you'd you'd be 1:35:04.587 --> 1:35:05.507 okay out there. 1:35:07.307 --> 1:35:08.387 Well, I think I'd be pretty lucky. 1:35:08.387 --> 1:35:10.067 I've been able to do a fair bit of sailing 1:35:10.667 --> 1:35:14.067 between the two events, you know, definitely that kind of 1:35:14.067 --> 1:35:16.707 initial nerves of getting back hell in the water at 1:35:16.747 --> 1:35:19.067 long past, and I think we're very lucky that a 1:35:19.107 --> 1:35:20.627 lot of the rest of our group had been in 1:35:20.627 --> 1:35:23.587 a similar situation, you know, with with Live sailing with 1:35:23.627 --> 1:35:27.107 the French couple of events, Marcus sailing with Denmark for 1:35:27.227 --> 1:35:29.787 a couple of events, So that kind of I suppose 1:35:30.187 --> 1:35:34.507 trust and your own abilities is definitely still there. And yeah, 1:35:34.547 --> 1:35:36.707 I think the one thing looking back at that incident 1:35:37.347 --> 1:35:40.467 definitely kind of the scary part of it as you 1:35:40.507 --> 1:35:43.267 were kind of a passenger I suppose for the last 1:35:44.027 --> 1:35:46.787 you know, two or three seconds before before the incident. 1:35:46.867 --> 1:35:52.547 So it's the one that yeah, like I said, when 1:35:52.587 --> 1:35:54.467 you look back at it, you're really getting into some 1:35:54.467 --> 1:35:56.867 some small details as to as to what you would 1:35:56.867 --> 1:35:58.707 have done differently at the time. 1:35:59.747 --> 1:36:03.467 Apart from the racing. The Black Boils leading the Impact League. 1:36:04.467 --> 1:36:06.187 How proud are you that the team is sitting the 1:36:06.587 --> 1:36:11.187 mark for making a positive environmental impact, you know, particularly 1:36:11.187 --> 1:36:13.387 in a sport that's so closely connected to the ocean. 1:36:15.347 --> 1:36:18.467 Yeah, yeah, it was a very exciting to see us, 1:36:19.187 --> 1:36:21.307 I supposed to get recognized for the hard work to 1:36:22.667 --> 1:36:26.067 live ocean and both the team have done to really 1:36:26.147 --> 1:36:31.027 raise awareness about the the issues of bottom trawling and 1:36:31.347 --> 1:36:37.307 really that cord action of ending yeah, seamouns and bottom 1:36:37.347 --> 1:36:41.107 trawling of seamouns in New Zealand waters and I think 1:36:41.107 --> 1:36:45.587 it's something that the amount of noise and attention some 1:36:45.667 --> 1:36:48.307 of those issues that the ocean are facing is getting 1:36:48.347 --> 1:36:51.587 at the moment in New Zealand's you know something, I'm incredibly. 1:36:51.267 --> 1:36:53.507 Proud of both as yeah. 1:36:53.387 --> 1:36:56.907 The work we've done with Live Ocean and also the 1:36:57.227 --> 1:37:01.667 Black Fails and really hoping to see some positive change. 1:37:01.547 --> 1:37:04.347 You come sometimes soon. 1:37:04.747 --> 1:37:07.787 Just to finish. Then back to Awtmouth this weekend at 1:37:07.827 --> 1:37:10.027 the end of the regatta. If you're looking back and 1:37:10.307 --> 1:37:13.067 you say, okay, that was a successful weekend, is that 1:37:13.107 --> 1:37:15.587 purely results or are there other boxes that you want 1:37:15.627 --> 1:37:18.107 to tick as well. 1:37:18.147 --> 1:37:21.467 I think all these events we've definitely got a dual focus. 1:37:22.467 --> 1:37:24.627 The results is obviously a big part of it. It's 1:37:24.627 --> 1:37:26.987 always really nice for. 1:37:26.987 --> 1:37:31.107 The group to get a successful event on the board. 1:37:31.667 --> 1:37:33.227 It would be great for us to be able to 1:37:33.227 --> 1:37:35.867 say walk away winning a winning our first event of 1:37:35.907 --> 1:37:38.467 the season, but you know, and saying that, it's never 1:37:38.747 --> 1:37:41.507 never quite that simple and For us, it's really about 1:37:42.227 --> 1:37:46.547 continuing the build back into into racing. You know, with 1:37:47.427 --> 1:37:50.147 missing four months of racing, you know that the team's 1:37:50.227 --> 1:37:53.107 definitely slightly on the back food in terms of being 1:37:53.107 --> 1:37:55.667 as as race sharp as a lot of the other teams. 1:37:55.707 --> 1:37:57.907 And we've been doing a lot of work between the 1:37:57.947 --> 1:38:00.907 events and enduring that downtime to try and bridge that 1:38:00.947 --> 1:38:03.347 gap as much as we can. But you know, it'd 1:38:03.387 --> 1:38:08.067 be awesome to keep uraging that and to keep a 1:38:08.147 --> 1:38:12.507 road of learning high and really really kind of keep 1:38:12.547 --> 1:38:14.707 the rampants the end of the season going strong. 1:38:15.227 --> 1:38:16.907 Look forward to watching you trying to emulate what you 1:38:16.947 --> 1:38:18.707 did in Portsmouth last year. Pete, Thanks for the jet 1:38:18.707 --> 1:38:20.387 has always made all the best to you and the 1:38:20.387 --> 1:38:21.347 team across the weekend. 1:38:21.667 --> 1:38:23.507 Awesome, thanks you going to find it, No thank you, Pete. 1:38:23.507 --> 1:38:27.067 Pete Berling there CEO or co CEO driver of the 1:38:27.067 --> 1:38:30.227 Black Foil. So midnight Tonight New Zealand times when the 1:38:30.347 --> 1:38:32.827 first day of racing is in Portsmouth as the Black 1:38:32.867 --> 1:38:36.267 Foils loot to bounce back from that long time off 1:38:36.267 --> 1:38:39.227 the water. He got close in Halifax, but you're looking 1:38:39.267 --> 1:38:41.347 to make that three boat final at the back end 1:38:41.427 --> 1:38:44.547 of sal GP UK in Portsmouth over the next couple 1:38:44.587 --> 1:38:48.267 of days two twenty two it is. We'll take a break, 1:38:48.307 --> 1:38:51.427 come back and chat with our coaching guru, Wayne Goldsmith 1:38:51.467 --> 1:38:54.747 about Dave Rennie start. It was All Blacks tenure and 1:38:54.827 --> 1:38:57.587 the challenges I guess he would have overcome during that time. 1:38:57.707 --> 1:39:00.627 Don't forget about a sporting chance. We've got that with 1:39:00.667 --> 1:39:03.267 the tab before three o'clock as well. We'll give you 1:39:03.267 --> 1:39:05.227 the opportunity to win a one hundred and fifty dollars 1:39:05.267 --> 1:39:08.667 bonus bet. You just have to decide which of our 1:39:08.667 --> 1:39:10.707 three options should place it on. We'll place it, You'll 1:39:10.707 --> 1:39:13.347 get the winnings if it happens. A sporting chance at 1:39:13.347 --> 1:39:15.427 some stage before three o'clock as well. Back in a 1:39:15.427 --> 1:39:16.707 moment on Weekend Sport. 1:39:17.027 --> 1:39:19.387 The scoreboard only tells half the story. 1:39:19.547 --> 1:39:23.147 Fine, he tells the rest Weekend Sport with Jason Vine 1:39:23.187 --> 1:39:26.787 and the Volkswagen Amarak v SX Power and Confort combined 1:39:26.947 --> 1:39:27.507 on sale. 1:39:27.507 --> 1:39:28.747 Now news talks end. 1:39:28.667 --> 1:39:32.627 Be bang on to twenty five. Dave Renni three tests 1:39:32.707 --> 1:39:35.547 into life as All Blacks head coach, chalking up three 1:39:35.627 --> 1:39:38.787 wins to start his tenure as a new coach into 1:39:38.867 --> 1:39:42.987 a high performance environment. How challenging would that dynamic have 1:39:43.147 --> 1:39:46.507 been How would he have struck the balance between respecting 1:39:46.547 --> 1:39:49.987 the legacy of the jersey and the previous coach while 1:39:50.067 --> 1:39:52.907 still making it feel like it's now his team? How 1:39:52.947 --> 1:39:55.987 much do you change and how much do you leave alone? 1:39:56.107 --> 1:39:59.507 And with just fifteen months until the next Rugby World Cup, 1:39:59.827 --> 1:40:03.267 where should Dave Renni invest his time and energy to 1:40:03.307 --> 1:40:06.907 get maximum return? Well to answer these questions, joined by 1:40:07.147 --> 1:40:12.067 our regular coaching guru here on Weekend Sport, Wayne Goldsmith. Wayne, 1:40:12.067 --> 1:40:14.187 thanks for taking the time. As always, every new coach 1:40:14.627 --> 1:40:18.347 inherits a team of course, rather than building one from scratch, 1:40:18.387 --> 1:40:20.747 So it's the first job when you come in to 1:40:20.907 --> 1:40:24.387 understand what the team is all about already before you 1:40:24.467 --> 1:40:26.387 start thinking about making any changes. 1:40:27.107 --> 1:40:29.827 Well at is pointing and welcome back and great the 1:40:29.907 --> 1:40:33.947 chat as always the temptation and I'm sure if you 1:40:34.107 --> 1:40:37.387 had a look at Dave Renie's telephone bill or how 1:40:37.387 --> 1:40:40.507 to look at his mobile phone connections in the last 1:40:40.547 --> 1:40:43.747 few months, he would have had everybody who's ever picked 1:40:43.787 --> 1:40:45.867 up a rugby ball or even seen the game of 1:40:45.907 --> 1:40:48.627 rugby in New Zealand telling him what he should do. 1:40:49.387 --> 1:40:52.347 And part of it is knowing what not to do, 1:40:52.747 --> 1:40:55.427 because everyone will have a strong opinion about, Oh, there 1:40:55.427 --> 1:40:56.067 should be more. 1:40:55.987 --> 1:40:57.467 Crusaders or less crusaders. 1:40:57.747 --> 1:41:00.187 There should be more highlanders, there should be more canes, 1:41:00.507 --> 1:41:02.747 there should be more forwards, more backs. You should go 1:41:02.827 --> 1:41:05.787 for speed, you should go for size. Everyone's going to 1:41:05.787 --> 1:41:08.467 tell him what to do, and part of the trick 1:41:09.147 --> 1:41:12.067 is taking a breath, just looking at what you've got 1:41:12.107 --> 1:41:15.027 and what's working. What are the sort of things that 1:41:15.067 --> 1:41:16.947 you know is working. Because it's an all blacks team, 1:41:16.987 --> 1:41:19.387 there's a lot of things that are always working well, 1:41:20.147 --> 1:41:22.907 and not listen to all the noise, because man, if 1:41:22.907 --> 1:41:25.947 you listen to the thousands of calls and emails that 1:41:25.987 --> 1:41:29.787 he's probably got, you'd be changing everything and everybody, even 1:41:29.787 --> 1:41:32.867 their haircuts and the clothes they wear and everything else. 1:41:33.387 --> 1:41:35.827 And that's not really going to be effective. 1:41:35.867 --> 1:41:40.187 He's got to be very discerning about what's working, what's 1:41:40.267 --> 1:41:42.107 not working, and what are some of the things he 1:41:42.147 --> 1:41:45.067 could introduce logically and systematically over time. 1:41:46.227 --> 1:41:50.747 Now overlaying that is the short time frame that he has. Normally, 1:41:51.667 --> 1:41:54.107 a new coach of a rugby nation comes and at 1:41:54.147 --> 1:41:56.307 the start of a World Cup cycle, they've got four 1:41:57.027 --> 1:42:00.907 entire years to get themselves ready. Dave Rennie only has 1:42:00.947 --> 1:42:03.987 fifteen months before the next Rugby World Cup, so how 1:42:04.067 --> 1:42:08.547 ruthless and specific what he need to be with his priorities. 1:42:10.147 --> 1:42:12.867 You've got to be fairly tough, but your vision's got 1:42:12.867 --> 1:42:15.867 to be clear and look some time ago, I was 1:42:15.947 --> 1:42:19.547 lucky enough to be invited in post the twenty eleven 1:42:20.147 --> 1:42:22.867 World Cup win by New Zealand, the way smith invited 1:42:22.867 --> 1:42:27.187 me into Wellington to be part of the debrief process 1:42:27.227 --> 1:42:29.707 and some work that they were doing after games. And 1:42:29.947 --> 1:42:32.067 I remember the term that Smithy used, and I know 1:42:32.107 --> 1:42:34.507 it's been in a legacy book and others, but Smithy 1:42:34.547 --> 1:42:36.827 said one of the things we did was have. 1:42:36.867 --> 1:42:37.987 A croseness approach. 1:42:38.067 --> 1:42:41.307 We looked ahead to exactly what it was going to 1:42:41.347 --> 1:42:45.227 be like on finals night in Wellington in the World Cup, 1:42:45.587 --> 1:42:47.947 and with some very intelligent people, we said what is 1:42:47.987 --> 1:42:49.867 it going to look like? Will the game be faster? 1:42:50.307 --> 1:42:53.067 Who are we likely to be playing? What sort of 1:42:53.467 --> 1:42:55.627 challenges are we likely to be getting? And then they 1:42:55.667 --> 1:42:59.227 work backwards and it's a very good strategy to look 1:42:59.227 --> 1:43:00.907 ahead the World Cup next to you and say, right, 1:43:00.987 --> 1:43:05.067 what a likely final I should probably go? Well, maybe 1:43:05.507 --> 1:43:09.347 Ireland only maybe France, could they can come from anywhere. 1:43:09.987 --> 1:43:12.907 England look like they might be starting to turn things 1:43:12.947 --> 1:43:16.227 around South Africa of course. All right, so there's four 1:43:16.307 --> 1:43:19.467 or five likely contenders. What's it going to look like, 1:43:19.547 --> 1:43:20.507 what's it going to feel like? 1:43:20.907 --> 1:43:23.147 Who am I likely to have in my team at 1:43:23.147 --> 1:43:23.787 that time? 1:43:24.187 --> 1:43:26.347 And then work backwards and say, right, what do I 1:43:26.547 --> 1:43:31.107 do to be best prepared for that likely scenario that 1:43:31.187 --> 1:43:33.387 I'm going to be facing at the World Cup. That's 1:43:33.387 --> 1:43:35.467 a pretty good way of doing it is first of all, 1:43:35.467 --> 1:43:39.867 be really clear, using the expertise and what's Dave about 1:43:39.907 --> 1:43:43.907 sixty sixty two and the amazing people around him. He's 1:43:43.907 --> 1:43:47.107 got anoka back, He's got some very smart people around him, 1:43:47.707 --> 1:43:51.067 use their collective expertise and say what are we likely 1:43:51.107 --> 1:43:52.827 to be looking at it the World Cup? And then 1:43:52.867 --> 1:43:56.467 work backwards and say, well, then what is the team, 1:43:56.667 --> 1:43:59.987 the strategy, the tactics, the physical preparation. 1:44:00.147 --> 1:44:02.507 What does that look like now for us to end 1:44:02.587 --> 1:44:04.787 up there? Because remember they're going to have to go 1:44:04.827 --> 1:44:05.587 into the World. 1:44:05.427 --> 1:44:10.427 Cup, and you improve progressively and you play into the 1:44:10.467 --> 1:44:14.747 World Cup. So you're thinking, right and a finals, not 1:44:14.827 --> 1:44:16.867 only are we going to have to be playing good football? 1:44:16.907 --> 1:44:18.307 But we're going to have to be resilient. 1:44:18.347 --> 1:44:20.867 We'll probably have injuries, we might have had a couple 1:44:20.907 --> 1:44:24.187 of people have been carded. We have all sorts of issues, 1:44:24.587 --> 1:44:27.267 So let's work backwards and be prepared. 1:44:26.867 --> 1:44:29.267 For what we're actually going to be dealing with. 1:44:30.387 --> 1:44:32.547 So Dave Rennie's new to the All Blacks environment, but 1:44:32.587 --> 1:44:34.907 of course he's also new to all of these players 1:44:34.947 --> 1:44:38.347 so well most of them anyway. So when players hear 1:44:38.747 --> 1:44:42.347 a new voice for the first time, what are they 1:44:42.387 --> 1:44:42.907 looking for? 1:44:44.987 --> 1:44:48.667 Well, I think the first of all, before they're hoping 1:44:48.707 --> 1:44:52.747 to hear something, the smart coaches ask them questions and 1:44:52.867 --> 1:44:55.947 listen to the answers and really get to know them. 1:44:55.947 --> 1:44:59.107 Because it's funny, pointy that everyone would think if you're 1:44:59.107 --> 1:45:01.627 in the All Blacks and heading towards the World Cup 1:45:01.667 --> 1:45:04.827 next year, everybody's motivated by the same three or four things. 1:45:05.187 --> 1:45:07.187 I want to be part of a winning All Black team. 1:45:07.427 --> 1:45:09.387 I want to be part of a great experience and 1:45:09.467 --> 1:45:11.707 a victorious work up campaign. 1:45:11.827 --> 1:45:12.827 I want to enjoy it. 1:45:13.067 --> 1:45:15.307 Maybe I want to be thinking about contracts and other 1:45:15.347 --> 1:45:19.547 things as well, But not everybody's motivated by the same things. 1:45:19.707 --> 1:45:22.427 Some people will say when you walk in you might 1:45:22.467 --> 1:45:24.747 ask him a question about, so, what do you want 1:45:24.787 --> 1:45:26.987 from this World Cup experience or from being part of 1:45:27.027 --> 1:45:28.947 the All Blacks. Some of them say, mate, I just 1:45:28.987 --> 1:45:30.867 love playing footage, I just want to be part of 1:45:30.907 --> 1:45:34.307 this team. Or I've dreamt about this my whole life, Dave, 1:45:34.867 --> 1:45:36.587 I want to be part of this because this is 1:45:36.627 --> 1:45:40.427 a fulfillment of the last twenty five years of my life. 1:45:40.707 --> 1:45:43.187 Or it could be I want to prove myself against 1:45:43.227 --> 1:45:44.027 the best in the world. 1:45:44.067 --> 1:45:45.587 Day it's really. 1:45:45.307 --> 1:45:49.147 Important your first step and a great line from the 1:45:49.187 --> 1:45:54.267 first chapter of Stephen Covey's book, seek to understand before 1:45:54.307 --> 1:45:57.187 trying to be understood. And he's a pretty smart guy 1:45:57.227 --> 1:45:59.587 and he's got some very clever people around him. I 1:45:59.627 --> 1:46:02.387 would imagine the first thing is to figure out what's 1:46:02.587 --> 1:46:05.747 driving each of the individuals, what's motivating them, what's the 1:46:05.787 --> 1:46:08.947 little five are in their chest. To understand what's motivating 1:46:09.027 --> 1:46:11.027 them before they say, right, we're going to do this, 1:46:11.107 --> 1:46:13.547 We're going to do that, before saying this is where 1:46:13.547 --> 1:46:16.667 we're going. Spend some time getting to know the players 1:46:16.667 --> 1:46:20.547 and understand what's really driving and motivating them as individuals. 1:46:21.067 --> 1:46:22.867 Just to build on that point. These are new Zealand's 1:46:22.867 --> 1:46:26.867 best players. They're already incredibly strong technically and physically, otherwise 1:46:26.907 --> 1:46:29.227 they wouldn't be all blacks. Does that mean that the 1:46:29.267 --> 1:46:34.147 real competitive advantage can come from the mental and emotional 1:46:34.267 --> 1:46:35.387 side of the game. 1:46:37.107 --> 1:46:40.987 Absolutely, Pinal and look more and more that. Look, there 1:46:41.067 --> 1:46:43.667 was a time because of where New Zealand and to 1:46:43.707 --> 1:46:47.387 a lesser degree Australia, where we are geographically the tyranny 1:46:47.467 --> 1:46:49.787 of distance. We're at the bottom of the world, We're 1:46:49.827 --> 1:46:53.427 away from everybody else, and you could build a campaign 1:46:53.587 --> 1:46:56.867 and keep it relatively quiet and certainly with you guys 1:46:56.907 --> 1:46:58.987 going to twenty eleven what you were doing and were 1:46:59.107 --> 1:47:01.507 some exceptional things that nobody knew about. 1:47:02.227 --> 1:47:03.987 Now with social media now with. 1:47:04.547 --> 1:47:08.427 Bones and contexts and everyone has social media accounts and 1:47:08.507 --> 1:47:12.347 everyone's watching every game a TV from under tens upwards. 1:47:12.947 --> 1:47:14.787 That there are no secrets in rugby. 1:47:14.907 --> 1:47:17.507 Everyone knows what everyone There is no secret all black 1:47:17.547 --> 1:47:18.547 formula anymore. 1:47:18.907 --> 1:47:21.347 Everybody knows what everybody knows. 1:47:21.867 --> 1:47:23.987 So I look at it and say, all right, well, 1:47:23.987 --> 1:47:25.867 they know the way the all blacks will play the game. 1:47:25.907 --> 1:47:30.667 They know all blacks are always very well physically prepared technically. 1:47:31.187 --> 1:47:34.667 Your rugby system's fantastic. They've always got great technical skills 1:47:34.707 --> 1:47:38.307 and say, all right, well, then if I assume that 1:47:38.387 --> 1:47:42.027 everybody knows that, and that everybody's roughly got the same 1:47:42.627 --> 1:47:45.947 level of expertise in those areas, where's my advantage. Well, 1:47:45.987 --> 1:47:53.307 the advantage is leadership, team dynamics, connectedness, recovery, so they 1:47:53.307 --> 1:47:57.107 recover better from game to game, tactics and strategies, and 1:47:57.387 --> 1:48:02.107 absolutely absolutely the mental emotional side. The great line that 1:48:02.467 --> 1:48:04.787 old truck and field coaching friend of one is to say, 1:48:05.267 --> 1:48:07.667 if you don't manage the emotion of the moment, the 1:48:07.747 --> 1:48:11.907 emotion of the moment manages you. And we know from 1:48:12.027 --> 1:48:14.507 football World Cups don't win, from Olympic games and the 1:48:14.547 --> 1:48:16.867 com games that are about to kick off, we know 1:48:16.987 --> 1:48:20.627 that that quite often it's the athletes who manage the 1:48:20.667 --> 1:48:24.187 emotion of those moments as critical moments. They're the ones 1:48:24.227 --> 1:48:26.787 that come through in the big events. To me, that's 1:48:26.867 --> 1:48:29.907 where the advantage is, and the All Blacks have proven 1:48:29.947 --> 1:48:32.187 over the last few World Cup cycles they're very good 1:48:32.227 --> 1:48:32.467 at that. 1:48:33.427 --> 1:48:35.747 On a slightly different but related topic, you also sent 1:48:35.747 --> 1:48:37.387 me a phrase during the week when we were having 1:48:37.467 --> 1:48:40.987 our regular back and forth to yarn about stuff You 1:48:41.027 --> 1:48:43.667 sent me this phrase, happy off the field equals happy 1:48:43.707 --> 1:48:46.587 on the field. It sounds so self evident. But how 1:48:46.667 --> 1:48:50.347 can family, friendships, a player support network, how do those 1:48:50.347 --> 1:48:53.147 things directly affect a players performance? 1:48:54.507 --> 1:48:55.787 Well, it's funny, funny. 1:48:55.787 --> 1:48:58.147 It was just a conversation I had with some colleagues 1:48:58.147 --> 1:49:00.387 at the Queensland Academy of Sport a few weeks ago 1:49:00.427 --> 1:49:05.227 that about planning and preparation for the twenty thirty two games, 1:49:05.267 --> 1:49:09.307 and one of their heads of performance stood up and 1:49:09.387 --> 1:49:14.267 he said with I think we're entering the era of simplicity. 1:49:14.947 --> 1:49:17.387 And it was a very interesting session. What he talked 1:49:17.387 --> 1:49:18.027 about is, he. 1:49:17.987 --> 1:49:20.747 Said, we went through the era of supplements, and we 1:49:20.787 --> 1:49:24.507 went through the ear of protein powders and pito diets 1:49:24.507 --> 1:49:27.867 and all these really complicated things. He said, what we're 1:49:27.987 --> 1:49:30.467 seeing if you dig into the research and you look 1:49:30.507 --> 1:49:34.507 at what's consistently presenting as factors that lead to high 1:49:34.587 --> 1:49:38.107 level performance, he said, it's the basic things, seven or 1:49:38.147 --> 1:49:41.987 eight hours sleep a night, making sure you're staying hydrated, 1:49:42.067 --> 1:49:44.947 eating foods are as close to natural as possible, and 1:49:45.027 --> 1:49:47.907 away from over process boots. But this thing blew my 1:49:48.027 --> 1:49:50.627 mind on it, he said, And some of the consistent 1:49:50.707 --> 1:49:53.387 things that are coming out is that the athletes who 1:49:53.387 --> 1:49:59.507 are performing well surround themselves with friends and family who 1:49:59.507 --> 1:50:02.187 they feel comfortable with, where they know their loved and 1:50:02.267 --> 1:50:06.307 people that in term they can love and the can 1:50:06.387 --> 1:50:10.547 consistency and calm and peace of a loving home environment 1:50:10.947 --> 1:50:13.707 seems to have a bigger influence on high performance sport 1:50:13.947 --> 1:50:14.587 than we thought. 1:50:15.027 --> 1:50:17.227 And it blew my mind because how many times have 1:50:17.307 --> 1:50:18.307 you and I talked. 1:50:18.027 --> 1:50:21.827 About different elements of performance and we all try to 1:50:21.907 --> 1:50:25.187 overcomplicate it and look for tricky things and pieces of equipment. 1:50:25.747 --> 1:50:29.227 And I really believe he's on I really think that's right. 1:50:29.347 --> 1:50:33.107 Is that if your relationships are stable, got some friends, 1:50:33.147 --> 1:50:34.787 if you go and play golf in a Sunday with 1:50:35.187 --> 1:50:39.027 you care about family dinner on Sunday night, those basic 1:50:39.387 --> 1:50:43.747 human family relationship issues, you've got a real sense of 1:50:43.827 --> 1:50:45.987 peace and joy in your heart, which means then you 1:50:46.027 --> 1:50:48.627 can go out and be right on the edge and 1:50:48.707 --> 1:50:50.827 do her of everything you got to do. But I 1:50:50.867 --> 1:50:52.347 was going to two thousand and four Olympics with this 1:50:52.467 --> 1:50:55.907 Tralian triathlon team. We're at the airport and one of 1:50:55.987 --> 1:50:58.867 the athletes got a phone call from a four year 1:50:58.947 --> 1:51:01.707 living girlfriend and fiance saying, I think we should see 1:51:01.707 --> 1:51:06.947 other people broke the relationship up in real and him 1:51:06.947 --> 1:51:10.107 and I have spoken about this many times since. In reality, 1:51:10.187 --> 1:51:14.027 it effectively finished his Olympic campaign because as much as 1:51:14.067 --> 1:51:16.107 we try to support him and help him through and 1:51:16.707 --> 1:51:19.667 give him as much love as we could ourselves, that 1:51:20.267 --> 1:51:23.707 it was so shattering to have that massive disruption and 1:51:23.747 --> 1:51:27.027 heartache in his personal life. I don't think we've thought 1:51:27.027 --> 1:51:30.507 about that enough. And I think that happy off field, 1:51:30.547 --> 1:51:33.747 happy on field has been very underestimated. 1:51:34.547 --> 1:51:36.667 Just back to Dave Rennie to finish, you know, you 1:51:36.667 --> 1:51:38.947 can talk about coming in. He's only new things are 1:51:38.947 --> 1:51:41.027 going to take time, you know, the beating and all 1:51:41.027 --> 1:51:43.507 of that sort of thing. But how important is it 1:51:43.547 --> 1:51:46.147 to get some early wins, to win some tessmatches, which 1:51:46.187 --> 1:51:48.987 he's done. How important is that for him, for his players, 1:51:49.307 --> 1:51:50.707 for the All Blacks fan base. 1:51:52.387 --> 1:51:55.387 Yeah, we've got an acronym for that pony called ROTV 1:51:55.627 --> 1:51:56.507 runs on the board. 1:51:56.667 --> 1:51:56.907 Yep. 1:51:57.067 --> 1:52:02.827 That the that what it does, getting early success, because 1:52:02.867 --> 1:52:05.187 it's okay coming in. I think I read something he 1:52:05.227 --> 1:52:07.387 said the other week which was we're going to chip 1:52:07.387 --> 1:52:09.107 away at this one week at a time, which is 1:52:09.107 --> 1:52:12.027 a fantastic for loss of him, and that's brilliant that 1:52:12.067 --> 1:52:12.587 he said that. 1:52:13.227 --> 1:52:16.027 But I think because the board took the. 1:52:16.027 --> 1:52:19.347 Jump so close to the World Cup, that and you've 1:52:19.347 --> 1:52:21.747 got a new CEO, when you've got some changes in 1:52:22.187 --> 1:52:24.947 admin and Dave's come back and you've got all those 1:52:24.947 --> 1:52:30.867 things going on, that the credibility of success early on 1:52:31.187 --> 1:52:33.747 gives you a mandate to maybe squeeze a little bit 1:52:33.747 --> 1:52:34.347 hard later on. 1:52:34.707 --> 1:52:37.107 So if he had got if you guys got beaten. 1:52:36.867 --> 1:52:39.027 By Island, for example, if you'd had a few losses, 1:52:39.667 --> 1:52:43.787 it would be more difficult politically and with the community 1:52:43.787 --> 1:52:46.067 and maybe even with the player group to say I 1:52:46.107 --> 1:52:47.907 think I'm on the right track. Come with me on 1:52:47.947 --> 1:52:50.507 the journey that we're about to embark on. I think 1:52:50.587 --> 1:52:52.987 now they've gone, well, hang on, this guy can coach 1:52:53.427 --> 1:52:56.707 and we can do some So the belief inside the 1:52:56.707 --> 1:52:59.587 team and outside the team has now started to take 1:52:59.627 --> 1:53:01.587 hold and people will get behind him. 1:53:01.627 --> 1:53:04.187 So he's done a huge favor for. 1:53:04.227 --> 1:53:07.587 Himself by having these early wins and now he can 1:53:07.627 --> 1:53:10.387 start to make some little changes here or there and 1:53:10.427 --> 1:53:14.427 you'll have some support behind him. That's important when you've 1:53:14.427 --> 1:53:16.827 only got to look at the change of the coaching 1:53:16.907 --> 1:53:21.427 in the NRL recently in merely Ringer and the Sea 1:53:21.467 --> 1:53:25.227 Eagles that they've changed to coach mid season. They've taken 1:53:25.227 --> 1:53:27.067 a little bit of a punt. He's a younger coach. 1:53:27.347 --> 1:53:29.827 He's come in and they had a string of successes 1:53:29.867 --> 1:53:32.387 and all of a sudden, the whole club's lifted. The 1:53:32.467 --> 1:53:35.587 journals are behind him, that the numbers at the ground 1:53:35.587 --> 1:53:36.107 have gone up. 1:53:36.387 --> 1:53:37.787 It's even numbers have gone up. 1:53:37.827 --> 1:53:42.107 And of course foruns Now I got a multiple season 1:53:42.147 --> 1:53:43.027 extension as a coach. 1:53:43.387 --> 1:53:46.507 Those early wins, everybody. 1:53:45.867 --> 1:53:48.907 Then starts to say, war hang on this, this is 1:53:48.947 --> 1:53:49.467 going to happen. 1:53:49.507 --> 1:53:52.707 This is really good. So that's an absolute blessing. 1:53:52.827 --> 1:53:54.907 And good on him and the team for pulling it 1:53:54.947 --> 1:53:58.067 off early because now they can start to make some tweaks. 1:53:58.147 --> 1:54:00.307 Runs on the board. That's there's many more ones to come. 1:54:00.347 --> 1:54:03.107 As always, Wayne, so insightful chatting dear, Thanks for being 1:54:03.147 --> 1:54:05.827 so generous with your time this afternoon. Now look forward 1:54:05.827 --> 1:54:07.187 to catching up again sometime soon. 1:54:08.667 --> 1:54:10.227 Always looking forward to a pinty. 1:54:10.267 --> 1:54:12.747 The one thing that terrifies me, or remember the other 1:54:13.187 --> 1:54:15.867 I think Dave Rennie said in his press conference, we've 1:54:15.867 --> 1:54:17.907 only just begun there's a lot more in us that 1:54:17.947 --> 1:54:20.347 absolutely terrifies me as an Australian. 1:54:20.147 --> 1:54:23.027 Way, and so it should Wayne, and so it should Mate. 1:54:23.067 --> 1:54:26.787 Thanks again, Wayne Goldsmith, our coaching guru here on Weekend 1:54:26.867 --> 1:54:30.107 Sport wg coaching dot com'ss website. If you want to 1:54:30.107 --> 1:54:34.147 find out more, get in touch with Wayne. Just just 1:54:34.187 --> 1:54:36.787 a so much wisdom every time we chat to them, 1:54:36.787 --> 1:54:40.027 and we really appreciate his time as always. What are 1:54:40.147 --> 1:54:42.827 we twenty to three just on the All Blacks there, 1:54:43.027 --> 1:54:46.867 as I say, naming their side or their squad for 1:54:47.027 --> 1:54:50.467 the South African tour on Monday three o'clock Monday afternoon, 1:54:50.467 --> 1:54:53.627 that squad will be revealed. Well, of course cover off 1:54:53.627 --> 1:54:55.347 for you here on news talks. He'd be make sure 1:54:55.387 --> 1:55:00.227 you know who's in. Forty four names are to be included. 1:55:00.427 --> 1:55:03.387 Thirty four in the Rugby Championship squad, plus a couple 1:55:03.427 --> 1:55:06.187 of guys who got called in. Jamie Hannah was one 1:55:06.507 --> 1:55:09.227 who got called in to cover injury. So tomorrow we're 1:55:09.227 --> 1:55:11.267 going to have a look at exactly what that squad 1:55:11.307 --> 1:55:13.027 might look like just after the midday news. We've got 1:55:13.067 --> 1:55:15.547 a couple of experts on you. The main experts though 1:55:15.587 --> 1:55:17.707 on this so you can give us your view. Just 1:55:17.707 --> 1:55:19.787 looking ahead to this tour that someone asks me win 1:55:19.827 --> 1:55:22.347 of these games, I'm just going to quickly run through them. Saturday, 1:55:22.427 --> 1:55:24.507 the eighth of August, what's that a couple of weeks away, 1:55:25.387 --> 1:55:28.667 five am they play the Stormers. Then midweek Wednesday, the 1:55:28.667 --> 1:55:30.547 twelfth of August. These are all New Zealand times, by 1:55:30.547 --> 1:55:33.187 the way, five am they play the Sharks, and then Sunday, 1:55:33.227 --> 1:55:36.547 August sixteenth, at five am they play the Balls. So 1:55:36.707 --> 1:55:39.627 three kind of warm up games before they play the 1:55:39.667 --> 1:55:42.707 first Test. That is three o'clock in the morning on Sunday, 1:55:42.747 --> 1:55:46.107 August the twenty third at Alis Park in Joehannesburg. That's 1:55:46.107 --> 1:55:49.027 the first Test, then another midweek game against the Lions, 1:55:49.067 --> 1:55:52.707 also at Allis Park. That's on the morning of August 1:55:52.747 --> 1:55:56.467 twenty six The second Test is down in Cape Town 1:55:57.467 --> 1:56:00.867 DHL Stadium in Cape Town on the morning of Sunday, 1:56:00.947 --> 1:56:04.947 August the thirtieth, and then it's back up to Joehannesburg, 1:56:05.067 --> 1:56:08.627 but to Soccer City or First National Bank Stadium as 1:56:08.627 --> 1:56:12.107 it's called for the third Test Sunday, the sixth of September, 1:56:12.147 --> 1:56:14.867 and then both teams hop on a plane to Baltimore. 1:56:15.147 --> 1:56:18.187 Of course, of course they do to M and T 1:56:18.507 --> 1:56:23.707 Banks Stadium, Baltimore, Maryland for the Fourth Test, nine o'clock 1:56:23.707 --> 1:56:25.907 in the morning, New Zealand time. 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How are you, Colin? 1:57:46.107 --> 1:57:48.267 Yeah, very very well, thank you. How are you doing? 1:57:48.707 --> 1:57:51.547 I'm doing very well. What sort of sport are you into? 1:57:51.627 --> 1:57:54.427 What would you say your your favorite sports are. 1:57:56.387 --> 1:58:01.707 Football definitely first, Boxing would be seconds, and almost any 1:58:01.707 --> 1:58:02.667 other sports third? 1:58:03.067 --> 1:58:04.947 All right, well I don't have any football or boxing 1:58:04.987 --> 1:58:10.147 for your colin. Sorry, but that's okay. Who do you 1:58:10.147 --> 1:58:11.387 follow them in the UK? 1:58:13.267 --> 1:58:15.947 I'm the track to boy Ipswich Town. 1:58:15.507 --> 1:58:18.387 Ipswich Town fan. I've got a couple of friends ap 1:58:18.427 --> 1:58:22.307 Switch Town fans long suffering. But yeah, but then they 1:58:22.627 --> 1:58:24.587 well go back going back to that anyway. I shouldn't 1:58:24.587 --> 1:58:27.027 really get into this because this isn't what this conversations about. 1:58:27.027 --> 1:58:28.987 But good to having. Good to have an it Switch 1:58:28.987 --> 1:58:30.907 fan on the show. Okay, We're gonna give you three options. 1:58:30.987 --> 1:58:35.227 Three options short, evens and long just listen carefully to them, Colin, 1:58:35.307 --> 1:58:37.427 and then you just have to choose which one you'd 1:58:37.467 --> 1:58:37.907 like to go for. 1:58:38.067 --> 1:58:39.867 Okay, sounds good. 1:58:40.467 --> 1:58:45.547 Short The three Pete Denial Special Super Rugby Opicky Final. 1:58:45.867 --> 1:58:48.907 It's the women's final this afternoon. Mutter two against the Blues. 1:58:49.467 --> 1:58:51.587 The bet is for Mutter too to win the game. 1:58:51.987 --> 1:58:55.507 It's paying a dollar sixty five. 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You would win one thousand, nine hundred 1:59:44.427 --> 1:59:48.067 and fifty, So to recap for you, Colin Marta tu 1:59:48.107 --> 1:59:51.027 to win the Super Rugby Opicki Final, you'd win ninety 1:59:51.027 --> 1:59:54.627 seven dollars fifty Tade Pagacha to win Stage twenty in 1:59:54.667 --> 1:59:56.947 the Tour de France tonight, you'd win two sixty two 1:59:57.107 --> 2:00:00.387 fifty or Tomarti Martin to score two or more tries 2:00:00.427 --> 2:00:04.307 for the Warriors this afternoon, you'd win one thousand, nine 2:00:04.387 --> 2:00:06.867 hundred and fifty. Which one would you like choose? 2:00:08.267 --> 2:00:10.027 I'm going to have to go the short option. 2:00:10.627 --> 2:00:13.747 I think just the short option matter two to win 2:00:14.187 --> 2:00:18.627 Super Rugby this afternoon. Yeah, I'll take that one. Please, 2:00:19.147 --> 2:00:21.867 ninety seven to fifty. Nothing wrong with that, Colin, nothing 2:00:21.907 --> 2:00:24.307 wrong with that at all. 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Couple of texts through regarding the spring Box Tour, 2:00:59.387 --> 2:01:03.067 James's madness playing all those warm up games. They'll just 2:01:03.067 --> 2:01:05.987 want to smash us to pieces and injure as many 2:01:06.027 --> 2:01:08.987 players as they can. That's the way they spring Boks roll. Now. 2:01:09.427 --> 2:01:12.347 It'll also give them insights into our game plans. We 2:01:12.387 --> 2:01:14.707 need to go over there fresh and give it everything 2:01:14.787 --> 2:01:18.387 to beg them rather than exhausting ourselves before the big matches. 2:01:18.627 --> 2:01:22.467 Interesting point, you make their James forty four players though, 2:01:22.587 --> 2:01:26.667 and Dave Renie said at the back end of last 2:01:26.707 --> 2:01:28.547 week or sorry, I think after the test last week 2:01:28.547 --> 2:01:32.107 he said, we've already come up. We've already got our 2:01:32.107 --> 2:01:35.507 squads for the first four games. So I've got their 2:01:35.507 --> 2:01:39.507 squad of forty four and not only that, they've also 2:01:39.667 --> 2:01:43.347 picked I guess injury permitting their match day twenty threes 2:01:44.267 --> 2:01:47.067 for the first three matches are four matches rather of 2:01:47.107 --> 2:01:51.827 the tour, which are Stormers, Sharks Balls and the first Test, 2:01:52.747 --> 2:01:55.187 so that they're already well down the track. Of who 2:01:55.187 --> 2:01:58.187 they're going to use. I get what you're saying, but 2:01:58.307 --> 2:02:01.747 with the squad that size, I think they'll be okay. 2:02:01.867 --> 2:02:03.347 The other part of this is I think they'd want 2:02:03.347 --> 2:02:06.347 some warm up games. We often say with the Black Caps, 2:02:06.387 --> 2:02:08.227 for example, they go to Australia, we need to have 2:02:08.267 --> 2:02:10.187 some warm up games to get used to the conditions, 2:02:10.307 --> 2:02:11.427 all that sort of thing. I know it's a bit 2:02:11.427 --> 2:02:13.427 different with the cricket, but yeah, I don't mind the 2:02:13.427 --> 2:02:17.027 warm up games. Another textend of Blacks up to black 2:02:17.147 --> 2:02:18.667 or the All Blacks are going to be partially injured 2:02:18.667 --> 2:02:21.107 before they even get to the first test. I think 2:02:21.147 --> 2:02:23.067 the satur Bringins are going to target who they want 2:02:23.107 --> 2:02:25.507 to make sure they're not in good shape. Yeah, I 2:02:25.587 --> 2:02:27.987 mean will they though? I don't know. I mean there's 2:02:27.987 --> 2:02:29.867 nothing to stop the All Blacks that they're playing against 2:02:30.187 --> 2:02:32.707 players and the Sharks, the Bulls and the Stormers who 2:02:32.707 --> 2:02:33.907 they think are going to be in the spring box 2:02:33.947 --> 2:02:36.187 to target them. I don't think it'll happen. Forty four 2:02:36.227 --> 2:02:42.507 players more than enough, more than enough to I think 2:02:42.907 --> 2:02:48.827 handle it all. Monday afternoon three o'clock. That squad is named, well, 2:02:48.827 --> 2:02:51.387 are we eight and a half away from three News talksb. 2:02:52.707 --> 2:02:55.667 The big names and the big calls on your home 2:02:55.747 --> 2:02:59.787 of sport Weekend Sport with Jason Fine News Talks. 2:02:59.787 --> 2:03:02.587 Heb coming up five to three. Just had confirmation through 2:03:02.587 --> 2:03:05.067 the ticket sales for the Super Rugby Opiki Final up 2:03:05.107 --> 2:03:09.707 over eleven thousand. Now the Opik attendance records eleven seven 2:03:09.747 --> 2:03:12.307 eighty three. They're going to smash that. So over eleven 2:03:12.347 --> 2:03:16.147 thousand pre sold for the Super Rugby Opicky Final this afternoon. 2:03:16.187 --> 2:03:19.467 Fantastic stuff. That's us on Weekend Sport for today. Tim 2:03:19.507 --> 2:03:22.067 Beverage after three with the Weekend Collective. We're back tomorrow 2:03:22.267 --> 2:03:26.987 talking all Blacks, talking Warriors, talking Auckland FC against Tottenham 2:03:26.987 --> 2:03:29.707 tomorrow afternoon and other things too. Thanks for listening in. 2:03:29.867 --> 2:03:32.547 Huge thanks to Andy McDonnell for producing what is our 2:03:32.547 --> 2:03:34.147 exit song today? He is finally. 2:03:34.147 --> 2:03:36.987 The one thing we haven't discussed today is of course 2:03:37.187 --> 2:03:41.747 Lebron James, the basketballing superstar, announcing he's going to another 2:03:41.827 --> 2:03:44.627 new team, the Philadelphia seventy Sixers. So we've got the 2:03:45.627 --> 2:03:49.467 Philadelphia seventy Sixers win song. Here comes the Sixers to 2:03:49.547 --> 2:03:50.467 lead us out tonight. 2:03:52.107 --> 2:03:52.827 Thank you Andy. 2:03:53.467 --> 2:04:23.707 Enjoy your afternoon everyone, We'll see you Tomorrow Midday. 2:04:11.427 --> 2:04:31.987 Seventy six Star to be seventy six, seventy six Start 2:04:32.067 --> 2:04:58.427 to be seventy six, seventy six to be seventy six, 2:05:01.347 --> 2:05:05.867 the last sevent 2:05:07.867 --> 2:05:11.067 For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live 2:05:11.147 --> 2:05:14.467 to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 2:05:14.507 --> 2:05:16.107 the podcast on iHeartRadio