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Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. The big names, the big issues,

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Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home of Sport

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Speaker 2: O Kayota. Good afternoon and welcome into the Sunday edition

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Speaker 2: of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. August eleven. I'm

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine Show producer Annie McDonald. We're here till three

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Speaker 2: talking sport and talking gold medals. Carrington Carrington I said she's.

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Speaker 3: Got the race face on the Red Sunnies. It's Carrington

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Speaker 3: Carrington coming.

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Speaker 4: Down to the line.

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Speaker 3: It is gonna be gold for New Zealand's Lisa Carrington.

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Speaker 5: Co cohuts through and it's down. I'm golden for Lydia

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Speaker 5: com and.

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Speaker 2: Kerr, Hamu's Kerr for the gold middle Kiwi's can fly.

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Speaker 6: And Hamus Kerr scales his everest.

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Speaker 2: And his high jump Olympic champion Hamish kursed anybody to

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Speaker 2: chat to us. Lydia Coe with us this hour as well.

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Speaker 2: We'll hear from Dame Lisa Carrington a bit later on too,

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Speaker 2: as we celebrate one of the greatest days in our

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Speaker 2: Olympic history. I would love to hear about your pride

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Speaker 2: in watching three magnificent moments in our sporting history in

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Speaker 2: the last twelve to fourteen hours. Lines open immediately on

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Speaker 2: that other metters around today. Well, there's this text and.

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Speaker 7: The touts and the capitol Kurt continues. The old Lacks

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Speaker 7: lose again in Wellington just thirty eight thirty if thoud

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Speaker 7: even defeat to Argentina and lost. Pomus celebrates again the

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Speaker 7: Lord the Black Scott Robinson's Movester peters All.

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Speaker 2: Black Head coach, Assistant coach Jason Holland along with us

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Speaker 2: after one o'clock. Your thoughts are welcome. Two on what

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Speaker 2: you saw last night in Wellington and where was everybody?

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Speaker 2: New Zealand's number one darts player Hope by Pooha is

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Speaker 2: with us ahead of the Hamilton Darts Masters next weekend,

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Speaker 2: the action at Globbox Arena and Hamilton. James mcconey out

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Speaker 2: of Paris as well. That guy has been doing magnificent

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Speaker 2: work over there in Paris. Live Sport this afternoon Parah

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Speaker 2: keep our eyes on those games for you, but please

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Speaker 2: join the show whenever you're like, oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 1: Freaking down the Mary's and the Epic Fails weekends for

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Speaker 1: it with Jason Pine, News Talk.

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Speaker 2: Zenb So the Sporting We witnessed the most dramatic of

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Speaker 2: men's high jump finals, Hamish Kurr and American Shelby McEwan

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Speaker 2: with a last two left with two meters thirty eight

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Speaker 2: they went into a jump off for gold. Now they

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Speaker 2: kept it at two thirty eight. They have one jump

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Speaker 2: they both missed. They bring it down to two thirty six.

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Speaker 2: They each had one jump they both missed. They brought

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Speaker 2: it down to two thirty four. And shall be missed

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Speaker 2: at two thirty four, which left Hamish Kurr needing to

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Speaker 8: Weeks and years of training, Hamus Kerr for the.

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Speaker 6: Gold medal, Kiwi's can fly and Hamous Kurr jails his

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Speaker 2: He is an Olympic champion.

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Speaker 9: In the most.

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Speaker 10: Dramatic of high jump finals, Hamous Kerr brings it home

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Speaker 10: for New Zealand's what a moment and it couldn't happen

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Speaker 2: And that bloke Hamish Kurr joins US now out of Paris,

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Speaker 2: Hamish Olympic high jump champion, with a few hours to reflect.

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Speaker 2: Have you been able to process what you've done gold

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Speaker 11: No, No, I haven't. It's been pretty pretty crazy since then.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's just such an amazing, amazing night.

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Speaker 11: And to be able to share it with with not

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Speaker 2: True two thirty four on the bar a height you

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Speaker 12: And that's what was going through my head.

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Speaker 11: You know, I I wasn't afraid of failing.

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Speaker 12: I wasn't afraid of the water ifs.

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Speaker 11: I was just accepting the fact that, you know, I

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Speaker 12: And that's that's what happened.

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Speaker 2: How much of you thought back to your third leap

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Speaker 11: Look, that was the hardest jump of that this whole

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Speaker 12: To face what could have been disaster looked.

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Speaker 11: It was pretty raw, and I was pretty emotional afterwards,

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Speaker 11: And qualifying was not quite on the Bingo card hints

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Speaker 2: Amazing and we've got a proud history of middle distance

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Speaker 11: Look, I mean that's that's the amazing thing with sport

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Speaker 2: It provided us with goosebumps of breakfast time back here Homis.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations mate, absolutely amazing. Thank you for joining us, mate,

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Speaker 12: Awesome thanks hates mate.

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Speaker 2: No, thank you, Hamish Hamish Kerr. Now this tells you

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Speaker 2: all you need to know. It's currently quarter past two

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Speaker 2: guess that's what you get when you're an Olympic champion.

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Speaker 2: Great to get the chance to chat with Hamish Kerr

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Speaker 2: after a remarkable, remarkable high jump competition this morning. Let's

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Speaker 2: celebrate this super Sunday, shall we, or super Saturday as

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Speaker 2: it was over in Paris, Oh eight hundred and eighty

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Speaker 13: Tell us what.

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Speaker 2: Stands out the most. Three very different gold medals, but

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Speaker 2: a scarcely believable eighth Olympic gold medal. It leaves us

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Speaker 2: and Rio bronze and Tokyo gold. Here and Hamish Kerr

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Speaker 2: just the third Kiwi to win an Olympic track medal,

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Speaker 2: after long jumper Dame Evette Williams and Helsinki nineteen fifty

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Speaker 2: providing moments that will go down in our sporting history,

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Speaker 2: just to say, you little beauty or your little beauties. Oh,

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Speaker 2: multi hull bronze. Michael Wilkinson, Erica Dawson. Seven of our

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Speaker 2: So who knows the twenty from Tokyo may be under threat.

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Speaker 9: It's more than just a game. Weekend Sport with Jason

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Speaker 2: Twelve twenty one. When I talked about the track medals,

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Speaker 2: I said track gold medals. I think I did. If

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Speaker 14: flepped watching Hamish Kerr this morning. I actually went. I

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Speaker 16: She blitzed too, you know when she won that gold,

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Speaker 13: It's a few.

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Speaker 18: Seven of them. They've got the seven of the nine

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Speaker 2: spread across nine different sports. You're missing a bit of sleep, Dallas, are.

431
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Speaker 18: You, Yeah, but not as much as you and I.

432
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Speaker 20: Just want to thank you Piney. You deserve a gold

433
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Speaker 20: medal for your commentary.

434
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Speaker 2: It's very kind. It's part of a team effort. There's

435
00:23:48,027 --> 00:23:50,547
Speaker 2: there's six of us here working through and I think

436
00:23:50,547 --> 00:23:52,107
Speaker 2: we've all I think we've all had the chance. We've

437
00:23:52,107 --> 00:23:54,067
Speaker 2: all had the chance to call medals. I think most

438
00:23:54,107 --> 00:23:55,707
Speaker 2: of us have had the chance to call golds, which

439
00:23:55,707 --> 00:23:58,147
Speaker 2: has been a very nice, very nice thing to be

440
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Speaker 2: a part of. Dallas.

441
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Speaker 20: No, I don't I rely on radio. I don't have

442
00:24:02,547 --> 00:24:05,827
Speaker 20: a TV as such, so I've been listening to everything

443
00:24:05,827 --> 00:24:08,387
Speaker 20: on radio. So just thank you for.

444
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Speaker 21: All the drama.

445
00:24:09,267 --> 00:24:13,107
Speaker 20: And last night I just actually I couldn't bear to

446
00:24:13,147 --> 00:24:19,747
Speaker 20: listen to Lydia when she put the ball in the water.

447
00:24:19,867 --> 00:24:21,907
Speaker 20: You know, you can just tear the groan across the country.

448
00:24:21,907 --> 00:24:23,547
Speaker 20: Oh no, it's slipping.

449
00:24:23,227 --> 00:24:23,707
Speaker 13: Away, you know.

450
00:24:23,787 --> 00:24:28,267
Speaker 14: And but she pulled it back and oh, she's just.

451
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Speaker 20: Fantastic Lydia and they all are. And and this is

452
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Speaker 20: a very good point about when does confidence become arrogance

453
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Speaker 20: and that that would be a good question for a

454
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Speaker 20: sports psychists next time you have them on, you know,

455
00:24:43,307 --> 00:24:44,227
Speaker 20: you know, it's.

456
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Speaker 2: Tell us, yeah, because I think we probably all agree

457
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Speaker 2: that that you have to be confident, right. I think

458
00:24:50,147 --> 00:24:51,947
Speaker 2: to reach the top of a sporting field, you have

459
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Speaker 2: to have a degree of self confidence.

460
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Speaker 8: Uh.

461
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Speaker 2: And whether that outwardly then crosses that line into what

462
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Speaker 2: we perceive as arrogance or brashness or the I guess

463
00:25:02,307 --> 00:25:05,147
Speaker 2: the overplaying of the strength can sometimes be the weakness,

464
00:25:05,187 --> 00:25:07,747
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean. Yeah, a lot of

465
00:25:07,747 --> 00:25:09,147
Speaker 2: our athletes seem to be able to get up to

466
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Speaker 2: the line, have the self confidence, a little bit of swagger,

467
00:25:11,987 --> 00:25:15,827
Speaker 2: and certainly internal confidence without coming across as being a

468
00:25:15,827 --> 00:25:16,467
Speaker 2: bit of a dickhead.

469
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Speaker 20: I'm so impressed with our athletes. They're so grounded, they're

470
00:25:21,027 --> 00:25:24,227
Speaker 20: so grounded, they know what they can do, what they

471
00:25:24,227 --> 00:25:28,267
Speaker 20: can't do, and they're just so humble. But at the

472
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Speaker 20: same time, the positive you know, it's just fantastic whos

473
00:25:31,787 --> 00:25:35,427
Speaker 20: and the coaches, I guess deserve a lot of credit

474
00:25:35,547 --> 00:25:38,747
Speaker 20: for that. And yeah, it just makes you proud to

475
00:25:38,787 --> 00:25:39,867
Speaker 20: be a Kiwi, doesn't.

476
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Speaker 2: It, Dallas? It certainly does. And that's a great question

477
00:25:42,427 --> 00:25:45,507
Speaker 2: you ask, when does confidence become arrogance? And how do

478
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Speaker 2: you tread that fine line. We'll make sure we get

479
00:25:47,627 --> 00:25:50,547
Speaker 2: to our coach in Guru, Wayne Goldsmith onto that, because

480
00:25:50,547 --> 00:25:52,507
Speaker 2: I'm sure he'd have some great thoughts on that, And

481
00:25:52,907 --> 00:25:55,427
Speaker 2: and do you can you train confidence as well as

482
00:25:55,467 --> 00:25:57,867
Speaker 2: another thing? Can you train to be this way to

483
00:25:58,267 --> 00:26:01,947
Speaker 2: go right to that line and not cross it? You know,

484
00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:05,907
Speaker 2: we've seen a lot a lot of different styles of

485
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Speaker 2: athlete at these Olympic Games. We've got the very very brash,

486
00:26:09,627 --> 00:26:14,587
Speaker 2: the very very outward exuberant extroverts, and then we've got

487
00:26:14,667 --> 00:26:18,427
Speaker 2: the other end of the scar that the humble and quiet,

488
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Speaker 2: quieter achievers. And I think it's kiwis we probably like

489
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Speaker 2: that a little bit more. I think we like our

490
00:26:23,787 --> 00:26:27,587
Speaker 2: sports people a little bit more humble, you know, And

491
00:26:27,747 --> 00:26:29,507
Speaker 2: I think for the most part that's what we've got

492
00:26:29,827 --> 00:26:31,267
Speaker 2: with ours. But I would like to think that if

493
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Speaker 2: we had an athlete who was super successful, and they

494
00:26:34,427 --> 00:26:37,107
Speaker 2: were a bit brash and they were a bit arrogant

495
00:26:37,307 --> 00:26:38,907
Speaker 2: that we wouldn't tear them down for it. And you

496
00:26:38,947 --> 00:26:41,467
Speaker 2: know who I land on with that israel A de Sonya.

497
00:26:42,107 --> 00:26:44,667
Speaker 2: Here's a guy who does beat his chest, who does

498
00:26:45,387 --> 00:26:48,307
Speaker 2: display outward brashness, and I think sometimes he is an

499
00:26:48,307 --> 00:26:51,587
Speaker 2: easy target for people. But then I remember listening to

500
00:26:51,627 --> 00:26:57,227
Speaker 2: his speech at the Hallbergs and he he was so

501
00:26:57,507 --> 00:27:01,467
Speaker 2: articulate and so real and so authentic, and he made

502
00:27:01,507 --> 00:27:04,387
Speaker 2: such good sense. He said something along the lines of

503
00:27:05,387 --> 00:27:10,067
Speaker 2: when I rise, we all So it does take all types.

504
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Speaker 2: Whose decision was it asks this one to have the

505
00:27:14,227 --> 00:27:16,347
Speaker 2: jump off instead of sharing? It's a it's a good

506
00:27:16,427 --> 00:27:20,387
Speaker 2: question because there are mixed reports on this. So they

507
00:27:20,427 --> 00:27:24,547
Speaker 2: could have shared the gold medal. Hamish Kerr and Shelby

508
00:27:24,627 --> 00:27:29,067
Speaker 2: McEwen of the United States, they could have shared the

509
00:27:29,667 --> 00:27:32,147
Speaker 2: shared the gold medal if they both agreed on that.

510
00:27:32,147 --> 00:27:35,627
Speaker 2: That's what happened three years ago when two jumpers who

511
00:27:35,667 --> 00:27:39,067
Speaker 2: were both there this morning, actually Barshim of Katta and

512
00:27:39,147 --> 00:27:42,627
Speaker 2: Tamberry of Italy, they were in exactly the same situation

513
00:27:42,707 --> 00:27:45,107
Speaker 2: three years ago in Tokyo and they decided they would

514
00:27:45,107 --> 00:27:50,347
Speaker 2: share the gold medal this time. I think I think

515
00:27:50,507 --> 00:27:54,107
Speaker 2: they asked McEwen first, the American, do you want to share?

516
00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:55,787
Speaker 2: And he said no, So only one person has to

517
00:27:55,787 --> 00:27:59,027
Speaker 2: say no. But in listening to an interview that Hamish

518
00:27:59,067 --> 00:28:01,827
Speaker 2: Kerr did with Michael Burgess from the New Zealand Herald,

519
00:28:02,387 --> 00:28:04,787
Speaker 2: he said that if he'd been asked first, he probably

520
00:28:04,787 --> 00:28:06,907
Speaker 2: would have said no, let's jump for it as well.

521
00:28:07,067 --> 00:28:08,907
Speaker 2: I think you said something along the lines of I

522
00:28:08,907 --> 00:28:15,747
Speaker 2: would rather win silver by jumping for it than share

523
00:28:15,787 --> 00:28:18,667
Speaker 2: a gold. Even though there's you know, that was a

524
00:28:18,747 --> 00:28:21,267
Speaker 2: nice storyline three years ago, which edited to the legacy

525
00:28:21,347 --> 00:28:25,227
Speaker 2: of the Olympics. I quite liked the fact that they

526
00:28:25,227 --> 00:28:27,667
Speaker 2: both said, now we'll give it a crack. Let's see

527
00:28:27,707 --> 00:28:34,667
Speaker 2: who's Let's see who's best today. Let's see who's best today.

528
00:28:35,067 --> 00:28:38,987
Speaker 2: Sam says, Jason got home last night from my mates sixtieth,

529
00:28:39,347 --> 00:28:41,627
Speaker 2: watched the K one on record superb then onto the

530
00:28:41,627 --> 00:28:43,987
Speaker 2: golf with Lydia. I've never watched the game of golf

531
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Speaker 2: for my life, and I watched from the thirteenth to

532
00:28:46,747 --> 00:28:50,587
Speaker 2: the eighteenth hole, nervous but confidence awesome. I thought fondly

533
00:28:50,627 --> 00:28:53,347
Speaker 2: of one of Lydia's biggest fans, Murray Deeker, good on

534
00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:55,947
Speaker 2: your Sam. Yeah, oh, Murray would have loved it, would

535
00:28:55,947 --> 00:29:00,227
Speaker 2: have absolutely loved it. You're thinking of taking a sick

536
00:29:00,307 --> 00:29:02,587
Speaker 2: day tomorrow from lack of sleep, Mark.

537
00:29:03,707 --> 00:29:09,787
Speaker 18: Yeah, sleep's parwadive at the moment. But I've got to

538
00:29:09,867 --> 00:29:11,947
Speaker 18: listen to this show, so that's not.

539
00:29:11,907 --> 00:29:13,027
Speaker 15: Going to happen for a while.

540
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Speaker 22: As you know, I've done a lot of white Water

541
00:29:15,787 --> 00:29:19,747
Speaker 22: and Water Canoe and Jason, to me, the whole lot

542
00:29:20,147 --> 00:29:24,707
Speaker 22: last night was brilliant. But Lisa Carrington? Are we ever

543
00:29:25,067 --> 00:29:27,387
Speaker 22: going to see another Lisa Carrington?

544
00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:28,027
Speaker 13: Well?

545
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Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think? What do you think?

546
00:29:31,347 --> 00:29:31,547
Speaker 12: Mark?

547
00:29:31,587 --> 00:29:34,547
Speaker 2: Having been in the sport? Is she just a generational

548
00:29:34,627 --> 00:29:35,067
Speaker 2: one off?

549
00:29:35,907 --> 00:29:39,107
Speaker 22: She's a she's a giry, She's just she's a freak,

550
00:29:39,947 --> 00:29:44,787
Speaker 22: an absolute brilliant freak. And I really hope she goes

551
00:29:44,827 --> 00:29:49,227
Speaker 22: into coaching because that is where it's going to come from.

552
00:29:49,667 --> 00:29:52,187
Speaker 22: She's got the mine, she's got the.

553
00:29:54,187 --> 00:30:01,707
Speaker 23: She's got the knowledge. Obviously, she is very, very fit and.

554
00:30:01,787 --> 00:30:05,307
Speaker 22: That takes a lot of dedication to get us fitters.

555
00:30:05,307 --> 00:30:06,227
Speaker 19: Watch how old is she?

556
00:30:07,387 --> 00:30:09,107
Speaker 2: I think she's mid thirties now.

557
00:30:09,707 --> 00:30:12,507
Speaker 22: Yeah, right, A woman of that age to be that

558
00:30:12,707 --> 00:30:15,787
Speaker 22: fit and to do what she's done.

559
00:30:16,747 --> 00:30:17,867
Speaker 17: Man another Hallberg.

560
00:30:19,787 --> 00:30:21,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think she's got to be a front runner.

561
00:30:22,227 --> 00:30:24,307
Speaker 2: That's the good thing about Olympic years. We've got nine

562
00:30:24,387 --> 00:30:26,987
Speaker 2: gold medalists. Now look at the Sportsman of the year

563
00:30:27,067 --> 00:30:31,947
Speaker 2: for starters, Hamish Kurr, Hayden Wilde, Finn Butcher. There you go,

564
00:30:32,107 --> 00:30:36,667
Speaker 2: three gold medalists right there. There's three of your finalists

565
00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:39,187
Speaker 2: straight away, and how do you separate them? How do

566
00:30:39,227 --> 00:30:42,027
Speaker 2: you separate those three? Actually know wild didn't win the gold. Sorry,

567
00:30:42,387 --> 00:30:43,827
Speaker 2: didn't win the gold, did he? I'm going to bet

568
00:30:43,827 --> 00:30:46,427
Speaker 2: carried away there Andy, Sorry, but I think he's still

569
00:30:46,427 --> 00:30:54,347
Speaker 2: there or thereabouts. Finn Butcher and Hamish Kurr certainly in there. Yeah,

570
00:30:54,347 --> 00:30:58,507
Speaker 2: the Hallberg's are always always interesting. After an Olympic year,

571
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Speaker 2: Lydia coe along shortly a couple of tech set Hamish Kurr.

572
00:31:04,547 --> 00:31:08,187
Speaker 2: What are two hours of drama? It was like watching

573
00:31:08,747 --> 00:31:11,907
Speaker 2: Saint Lisa rowing for two hours. It wasn't it like that?

574
00:31:12,027 --> 00:31:14,507
Speaker 2: Wasn't it? It was a lot like that. I went

575
00:31:14,547 --> 00:31:17,427
Speaker 2: to bed, said Rosalie at four am after Lydia finished

576
00:31:17,427 --> 00:31:19,667
Speaker 2: with her gold, got up again at six to watch Hamish.

577
00:31:19,747 --> 00:31:21,907
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a bit dusty, but it was so worth it.

578
00:31:21,987 --> 00:31:26,067
Speaker 2: It really was, Rosalie, It really was worth it. Jason.

579
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Speaker 2: There's one gold medal moment that stands out for me,

580
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Speaker 2: Hamish Kerr. We're well known for kayaking, for rowing, for cycling,

581
00:31:31,347 --> 00:31:36,507
Speaker 2: but high jump, that is my golden moment, says Michael

582
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Speaker 2: Brian says, taking into account the individual achievements of Jamee, Lisa,

583
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Speaker 2: Lydia and Hamish, this is perhaps New Zealand's greatest sporting

584
00:31:46,307 --> 00:31:50,507
Speaker 2: day in our history. May well be, may well be.

585
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Speaker 24: Hello Chris, Oh hey buddy, how are you men?

586
00:31:53,267 --> 00:31:54,307
Speaker 2: Very good Chris? How are you mean?

587
00:31:54,827 --> 00:31:55,267
Speaker 24: It's good?

588
00:31:55,267 --> 00:31:55,467
Speaker 25: Hey?

589
00:31:55,507 --> 00:31:57,947
Speaker 24: Look, I can't believe that high jump last night. I

590
00:31:57,987 --> 00:32:00,467
Speaker 24: had to rewatch the whole thing this morning. Like I

591
00:32:00,467 --> 00:32:02,427
Speaker 24: don't think I've ever thought in my mildestreet that would

592
00:32:02,467 --> 00:32:03,587
Speaker 24: ever win a high jump medal.

593
00:32:03,867 --> 00:32:06,747
Speaker 2: I know, I know that seems so well, it just

594
00:32:06,787 --> 00:32:09,027
Speaker 2: seems so odd, just like we've got another things, but

595
00:32:09,187 --> 00:32:10,147
Speaker 2: high jump, you know we.

596
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Speaker 24: Never where did that come from?

597
00:32:12,307 --> 00:32:12,507
Speaker 26: Well?

598
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Speaker 24: But I mean the dramas that's really cool, right, that's

599
00:32:15,347 --> 00:32:16,907
Speaker 24: I think that's the whole thing. It's really cool, but

600
00:32:17,027 --> 00:32:19,947
Speaker 24: the high jump. But what I want to say real

601
00:32:20,027 --> 00:32:22,587
Speaker 24: quickly was I couldn't believe Lydia Coe. And and I

602
00:32:22,587 --> 00:32:24,147
Speaker 24: think it was a comment that a comment that made

603
00:32:24,387 --> 00:32:26,387
Speaker 24: that struck me. He went through all at accolades and

604
00:32:26,387 --> 00:32:31,587
Speaker 24: then he said, she's completed golf at twenty seven. Completed golf.

605
00:32:31,747 --> 00:32:34,107
Speaker 24: You've completed it, like that's what You've cropped the game,

606
00:32:34,227 --> 00:32:37,107
Speaker 24: that's all I can Yeah, I do you believe that

607
00:32:37,267 --> 00:32:39,267
Speaker 24: golf is the most hardest sport probably in the world

608
00:32:39,787 --> 00:32:42,507
Speaker 24: to actually win. You've completed the twenty seven.

609
00:32:42,827 --> 00:32:43,827
Speaker 2: That's such a good comment.

610
00:32:43,907 --> 00:32:44,547
Speaker 24: Unbelievable.

611
00:32:44,627 --> 00:32:47,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's clocked. She's clocked. And she said,

612
00:32:47,267 --> 00:32:49,027
Speaker 2: well she's in the Hall of Fame now, that takes

613
00:32:49,027 --> 00:32:51,427
Speaker 2: her into the Hall of fame. She I mean, she

614
00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:54,027
Speaker 2: she said, after after this one, Chris, it will be

615
00:32:54,067 --> 00:32:57,307
Speaker 2: her last Olympics. So whether that means she's going to

616
00:32:57,347 --> 00:32:59,867
Speaker 2: call it a day completely or whether she just doesn't

617
00:32:59,867 --> 00:33:02,187
Speaker 2: want to go on for another four years. But something

618
00:33:02,227 --> 00:33:03,987
Speaker 2: about the Olympic Games and Lydia Co, I mean, you

619
00:33:03,987 --> 00:33:05,907
Speaker 2: know how hard golf is, right, It's hard enough to

620
00:33:05,947 --> 00:33:08,827
Speaker 2: win a tournament, let alone win three medals across three

621
00:33:08,827 --> 00:33:10,707
Speaker 2: Olympic Games. I justs honished you one.

622
00:33:11,067 --> 00:33:13,947
Speaker 24: Yeah, gold, silver Bronch's won all three and then and

623
00:33:13,987 --> 00:33:16,147
Speaker 24: then literally the last comment that guy said, Oh she's

624
00:33:16,187 --> 00:33:22,107
Speaker 24: completed golf queen okay in comparison to delay, just the

625
00:33:22,107 --> 00:33:24,187
Speaker 24: most hardest, mentally tough sport in the world. You just

626
00:33:24,227 --> 00:33:28,027
Speaker 24: completed something at twenty seven. Yeah, that's amazing. It's being

627
00:33:28,027 --> 00:33:31,587
Speaker 24: an amazing night. It's an amazing, amazing Olympics. Honest, fantastry.

628
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Chris, great stuff mate, good to chat

629
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Speaker 2: and hear your enthusiasm.

630
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Speaker 27: Love it.

631
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably you know, in seventy years from now

632
00:33:37,827 --> 00:33:41,587
Speaker 2: put that on your headstone. Lidia Co she completed golf

633
00:33:42,467 --> 00:33:45,667
Speaker 2: at the age of twenty seven. Seventeen to one, Stay there, Dennis,

634
00:33:45,707 --> 00:33:46,507
Speaker 2: with you right after this.

635
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Speaker 9: From Penrose to Paris.

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Speaker 1: You make the call On eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: Sunday Here, How are you, Dennis?

641
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Speaker 26: Good after morning Lydia Co. My late wife was probably

642
00:34:13,227 --> 00:34:19,187
Speaker 26: her biggest fan and every game she's almost ever played.

643
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Speaker 26: We're up watching what my wife was and I've been

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Speaker 26: watching so much Olympics, whatever time it was, I've had

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Speaker 26: enough and went to bed and I was woken up

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Speaker 26: at three o'clock by my wife. I think, to come

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Speaker 26: and watch Olidia.

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Speaker 28: Brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just yeah, she must have known it. She must

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Speaker 2: have known.

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Speaker 26: Oh sure, yeah, she's up there with them all. And yeah,

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Speaker 26: I thought, no, I'm not going to watch Lydia because

653
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Speaker 26: she'll do the water or you know, all that sort

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Speaker 26: of stuff and we'll be disappointed. But three o'clock and

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Speaker 26: I sleep hours night. You know, I was working up.

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Speaker 26: I don't know how next thing I'm from a TV

657
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Speaker 26: about three o'clock and watched it. Thought, yep, I know

658
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Speaker 26: she got me up there. There we go.

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Speaker 2: What a moment, What a moment, Dennis terrific night.

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Speaker 26: Yep, she'll be she'll be over the moon. She used

661
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Speaker 26: to text Lydia. Lydia comes from a Hopey beach. My

662
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Speaker 26: oldest daughter lives up there, and it's not friendly with

663
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Speaker 26: her but knows no acquainted with you that sort of thing.

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Speaker 26: And uh yeah, and finally, thank you very much for

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Speaker 26: you and the team. I've just in between I'm doing

666
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Speaker 26: portrait painting and when I'm not watching TV, i'm missing

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Speaker 26: the few eyes I think as gold medals do you

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Speaker 26: all deserve.

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Speaker 2: Boddy, marvelous, good man, Dennis, all the best, take care

670
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Speaker 2: of yourself. Thank you for calling in.

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Speaker 29: Hi, Julie, Hey Fanny, thank you so much for you

672
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Speaker 29: call this morning on Hamish's high dump. I was listening

673
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Speaker 29: on the radio and my stomach was a Nazi created

674
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Speaker 29: everyone and I've had got so much I want to

675
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Speaker 29: say to you. But the highlights, the numerous, like the

676
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Speaker 29: synchronicity on the dive board and on the gym floor

677
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Speaker 29: and sitting on the couch trying to hold my breath

678
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Speaker 29: while those thin night swimmers are doing their things, the water,

679
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Speaker 29: and the humbleness that has been touched on by both

680
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Speaker 29: our successful athletes and our ones that feel that they

681
00:36:43,027 --> 00:36:48,027
Speaker 29: haven't quite matched their performance they wanted. But two golden

682
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Speaker 29: quotes was Lidia Cove this morning in one of our

683
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Speaker 29: interviews saying it would be quite cool if I went

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Speaker 29: out and got a medal. And then the Homeless gave

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Speaker 29: us care this morning when he said, you know that's

686
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Speaker 29: bought for you though it makes us do cool shit.

687
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Speaker 2: I heard that too. That was awesome.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, So thanks, finally loved out and looking forward to

689
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Speaker 29: getting out, sleep back.

690
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Speaker 2: Good on you, Jerlie Lovely to chat to you, thank

691
00:37:15,347 --> 00:37:18,267
Speaker 2: you for calling her. Yeah, it was there's some, there's some.

692
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Speaker 2: There's some quotes for the ages coming through, that's for sure.

693
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Speaker 2: Stoke for them all, says Nick. But watching Lisa Carrington,

694
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Speaker 2: I was most nervous. I really wanted her to win.

695
00:37:28,747 --> 00:37:31,707
Speaker 2: Coe was the most pleasing. Kerr was the most surprising,

696
00:37:31,747 --> 00:37:35,387
Speaker 2: but all bloody marvelous. Yeah, that's that's well put, Nick,

697
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Speaker 2: That is well put. Jason, Lydia took a few years

698
00:37:39,467 --> 00:37:42,947
Speaker 2: off my life glean after she found the water on thirteen.

699
00:37:43,027 --> 00:37:45,907
Speaker 2: Her five shot lead disappeared in seconds and every shot

700
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Speaker 2: thereafter was like a match point of a sudden death penalty.

701
00:37:49,227 --> 00:37:52,787
Speaker 2: She has the coolest temperament of any sports person I've seen. Incredible,

702
00:37:52,987 --> 00:37:54,867
Speaker 2: love it a bit, It's good on you. Glenn Well

703
00:37:54,907 --> 00:37:58,947
Speaker 2: said similar this one. What Lydia co has achieved is

704
00:37:58,947 --> 00:38:01,587
Speaker 2: nothing short of sensational. And to get into the Golfing

705
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame first ever, key we Dame Lydia. Surely

706
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Speaker 2: Jason is this Brian not New Zealand's greatest day in sport?

707
00:38:09,387 --> 00:38:11,907
Speaker 2: Who would have thought that possible? With the All Blacks

708
00:38:11,907 --> 00:38:15,107
Speaker 2: going down last night. Yeah, good call, Brian, good call

709
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Speaker 2: and not a New Zealand athlete. But this morning, what

710
00:38:17,347 --> 00:38:20,387
Speaker 2: about that women's fifteen hundred final, the Kenyan winner her

711
00:38:20,427 --> 00:38:24,147
Speaker 2: third success of gold Olympic medal in this event. How

712
00:38:24,187 --> 00:38:26,427
Speaker 2: amazing is that? The best fifteen hundred meter race? I

713
00:38:26,467 --> 00:38:28,827
Speaker 2: think I've ever seen so many moments. And that's the

714
00:38:28,827 --> 00:38:31,227
Speaker 2: thing too, is that, yes, we've watched out our kiwis

715
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Speaker 2: and reveled in their success and loved what they're doing,

716
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Speaker 2: but we have seen sporting ability at the very top

717
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Speaker 2: of it's you know, it's mountain. These are the best

718
00:38:45,227 --> 00:38:48,067
Speaker 2: of the best, and in some of these events, you

719
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Speaker 2: just marvel at what the human body can do or

720
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Speaker 2: what the mind of these athletes can compel the human

721
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Speaker 2: body to do. Night away from one US Talks EB.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

723
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Speaker 1: on eighty Weekends with Jason Hine News Talk ZB.

724
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for all your texts. They're flowing

725
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Speaker 2: in and I'm enjoying reading all of them. My apologies,

726
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Speaker 2: i can't read them all out, but I'll just get

727
00:39:14,747 --> 00:39:16,627
Speaker 2: to a selection of them before the news at one

728
00:39:16,867 --> 00:39:19,667
Speaker 2: and it says Jason was ready for bed after Lisa's gold,

729
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Speaker 2: ended up watching Lydia until half past one, went to

730
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Speaker 2: bed with the radio on, woke up to here she

731
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Speaker 2: was walking to the eighteenth Green, so got up to

732
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Speaker 2: see her final part. What an amazing young lady signing

733
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Speaker 2: golf balls and giving them to the volunteers, signing hats, shirts,

734
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Speaker 2: et cetera in the crowd. What a humble lady. So proud.

735
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Speaker 2: Then woke up and caught the end of Hamish Curves Gold.

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Speaker 2: Very very proud. Key we hear not just for the

737
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Speaker 2: medals but also for the down to Earth keyweiks. Thanks Enna,

738
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Speaker 2: Dawn says, also add to the humble, honest, down to

739
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Speaker 2: Earth New Zealander list, our weightlifter David Letty and our

740
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Speaker 2: shot putterer Maddie Wishy a joy to watch, agreed Dawn.

741
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Ponty. Great effort by Lydia, co says David

742
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Speaker 2: to stay carm and to win extreme pressure from the

743
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Speaker 2: Kiwi public. For context, it's more difficult to win a

744
00:40:02,987 --> 00:40:05,987
Speaker 2: major as there are so many more players. Anyone can

745
00:40:06,027 --> 00:40:08,387
Speaker 2: just have a blinder. You can't control that, Thanks David.

746
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Speaker 2: Good point, well made, PINDI don't now, don't forget our

747
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Speaker 2: cycling girls. Two golds and a silver and maybe more. Yeah,

748
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Speaker 2: that's absolutely right, and there may well be more. There

749
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Speaker 2: is still a really good chance of another gold medal

750
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Speaker 2: tonight for Elise Andrews and the sprint. She's into the

751
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Speaker 2: semi finals, so if she wins her sprint semi she's

752
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Speaker 2: racing for gold. This is Elise Andrews already, She's already

753
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Speaker 2: won a silver in the team sprint and a gold

754
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Speaker 2: in the Karen. It's all of a sudden she's in

755
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Speaker 2: this conversation. Imagine trying to pick Sportswoman of the Year

756
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Speaker 2: next year. Alisa Hoskins got two gold medals. She probably

757
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Speaker 2: looks across at Dame Lisa as well, I can't really

758
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Speaker 2: beat your three. But then Alise Andrews, like I say,

759
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Speaker 2: could do incredibly well. We've got Brook Francis and Lucy

760
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Speaker 2: Spores who won gold and the women's double skulls in

761
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Speaker 2: the rowing. I think they need to extend the number

762
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Speaker 2: of finalists andy out to ten or something like that.

763
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Speaker 2: It's been a terrific Olympic Games. It's been really really good.

764
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Speaker 2: Have loved it. I want to come back to it

765
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Speaker 2: as well. After two after one though, We've got a

766
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Speaker 2: call scheduled with All Black's assistant coach Jason Holland he's

767
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Speaker 2: going to join us to recap last night. Can you

768
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Speaker 2: get your thoughts as well.

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Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

770
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Speaker 1: on and after fields.

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Speaker 9: It's all on Wi jen Ford with Jason Vaine on

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Speaker 9: your Home of Sport. Why we used talks in.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into the show. It's one oh seven. What

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Speaker 2: time does the lease race later tonight? Asks this text.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you she is underway at twenty two

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Speaker 2: minutes past nine twenty two past nine. In fact, she's

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Speaker 2: the second of the two heats, so I guess nine

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Speaker 2: twenty five. You'll probably say, tune in to us on

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Speaker 2: Gold Sport at nine twenty two and you won't miss it.

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Speaker 2: So it's effectively semi finals Elise Andrews race as a

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Speaker 2: British writer. There are German and Dutch writers in the

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Speaker 2: other semi The winners race for gold and silver, the

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Speaker 2: loser's race for bronze. So regardless of what happens, Elise

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Speaker 2: Andrews will be certainly racing for another medal. If she

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Speaker 2: wins her heat of the women's sprint, then she's racing

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Speaker 2: for gold. Incredible, Craig says. Most people probably don't realize

787
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Speaker 2: what the athlete's clear and high jump if you live

788
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Speaker 2: in a house with an eight foot start, look at

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Speaker 2: a wall and the bottom of the trum up to

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Speaker 2: the roof and that's it. Incredible, Thanks Craig. Linda says Jason.

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Speaker 2: I watched Lydia from start to finish, went to bed

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Speaker 2: at four, continue to watch cycling and high jump. Sleep

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Speaker 2: will have to wait. My son and is in the

794
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Speaker 2: New Zealand dodgeball team competing at the World Champs in

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Speaker 2: Austria this week. Good on your Linda, and David says

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Speaker 2: I reckon there should be a special of ward at

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Speaker 2: the Hellbergs for the outstanding success of these medalists. Can

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Speaker 2: never say never, but I feel like it will be

799
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Speaker 2: a long time before we see this again. Hope they

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Speaker 2: get reasonable remuneration. Thank you, David, that's all to come.

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Speaker 2: I guess the renumerble remuneration conversation. Co's medal is the

802
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Speaker 2: best for me, says this one by far a more

803
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Speaker 2: competitive and larger sport, elite numbers wise and nature of

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Speaker 2: the game. Thank you very much. Indeed, we'll revisit the

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Speaker 2: Olympic Games. After two, Well chat Olivia. Co actually James

806
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Speaker 2: mcconey as well out of Paris. He has been doing

807
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Speaker 2: incredible work over there. He's going to join us and

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Speaker 2: before we knock it on the head at three, we

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Speaker 2: will be talking some darts with Hope I Puoh, our

810
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Speaker 2: number one darts player head at Hamilton Darts Masters next

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Speaker 2: week coming up ten past to one.

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Speaker 28: They throw themselves at the line.

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Speaker 13: Argentina's over.

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Speaker 7: They take back the lad through their thirty nine year

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Speaker 7: old hooker and he can't believe it. Thirty three thirty

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Speaker 7: to come and the All Blacks will need to respond.

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Speaker 7: Test to come from directly under the un right.

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Speaker 2: So last for the All Blacks last night thirty eight

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Speaker 2: points to thirty. Let's bring in assistant coach Jason Holland. Jase,

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Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time for a chat. What's the

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Speaker 2: overnight test? Telling you about what played out last night?

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Speaker 15: Oh look, obviously we're really disappointed with the outcome and

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Speaker 15: some fatters of how we went about went about our

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Speaker 15: game and how we got pressure on ourselves. So yeah,

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Speaker 15: a lot of things we need to we need to

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Speaker 15: get to a bit of standard to make sure that

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Speaker 15: how we want to play next weekend.

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Speaker 2: What are some of the things that perhaps I don't

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Speaker 2: know whether they kept you all wake last night, but

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Speaker 2: the things that are front of mind for you and

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Speaker 2: the others this morning.

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Speaker 15: Oh, there's a couple of things, like there's a couple

833
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Speaker 15: of times where we really put them under under lots

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Speaker 15: of pressure with some of our skill set and some

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Speaker 15: of our playing on top of them, but a couple

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Speaker 15: of obvious ones, we seem to score point and then

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Speaker 15: not be able to get out our own half. And

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Speaker 15: what we've seen is when whenever we saw Argentine that

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Speaker 15: got him to the opposition twenty two, there was points

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Speaker 15: came from under one and we just were inefficient enough

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Speaker 15: at getting out of our own end post points and

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Speaker 15: then being able to convert that pressure. So there's a

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Speaker 15: game of small margins around the pressure moments, and we

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Speaker 15: went good enough and a few and a good few

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Speaker 15: of them last night.

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Speaker 2: Why was it so challenging to exit your own territory.

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Speaker 15: Well, Argentina a good side and they got some really

848
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Speaker 15: good kickoffs going on and put us under pressure. And

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Speaker 15: we we you know, with the combination of a little

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Speaker 15: bit of skill set around our kick skills and in

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Speaker 15: a little bit of understanding of structure and how we're

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Speaker 15: going to get out of our own ends. So we'll

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Speaker 15: work hard at that this week and make sure that

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Speaker 15: we get into into Argentina's half.

855
00:45:45,667 --> 00:45:48,667
Speaker 2: Do you think you kicked too much or not?

856
00:45:50,067 --> 00:45:53,307
Speaker 15: No, we didn't kick too much. We just didn't kick

857
00:45:53,307 --> 00:45:55,987
Speaker 15: acurately enough. And if you kick accurately straight away, then

858
00:45:57,067 --> 00:45:59,787
Speaker 15: ideally your next starting point will be something you can

859
00:45:59,867 --> 00:46:03,987
Speaker 15: play with ball in hands. So yeah, it's aught about execution,

860
00:46:04,147 --> 00:46:06,027
Speaker 15: getting ball back when you kick in the air, those

861
00:46:06,067 --> 00:46:06,867
Speaker 15: sorts of things.

862
00:46:07,387 --> 00:46:11,467
Speaker 2: As coaches, how do you address unforced errors? Because there

863
00:46:11,467 --> 00:46:14,707
Speaker 2: were a few of those last night too, Yeah.

864
00:46:14,507 --> 00:46:14,867
Speaker 28: There was.

865
00:46:16,387 --> 00:46:20,227
Speaker 15: Yeah, obviously we're challenging boys to you know, skill sets

866
00:46:20,267 --> 00:46:23,067
Speaker 15: under pressure, so we've going to train that. We're going

867
00:46:23,107 --> 00:46:24,547
Speaker 15: to make sure we're under pressure the whole week in

868
00:46:24,547 --> 00:46:28,427
Speaker 15: our skill seat and nailed on so that we again,

869
00:46:28,507 --> 00:46:30,907
Speaker 15: as I say, apply the pressure Argentina the whole time

870
00:46:30,987 --> 00:46:32,987
Speaker 15: rather than letting them off to hook when we feel

871
00:46:33,027 --> 00:46:35,307
Speaker 15: like we getting on top of them. So little things

872
00:46:35,347 --> 00:46:37,627
Speaker 15: around breakdown, little things around there, catch past stuff or

873
00:46:37,667 --> 00:46:40,467
Speaker 15: the little skill seat or something that we just got

874
00:46:40,467 --> 00:46:41,627
Speaker 15: to keep nailing during the week.

875
00:46:41,787 --> 00:46:43,507
Speaker 2: How do you apply pressure in those situations?

876
00:46:43,587 --> 00:46:43,787
Speaker 13: Jase?

877
00:46:43,827 --> 00:46:45,387
Speaker 2: Because I know you can. You can ask you know,

878
00:46:45,387 --> 00:46:47,907
Speaker 2: your pliers to keep high standards. But at the end

879
00:46:47,907 --> 00:46:49,107
Speaker 2: of the day, in the back of the minds, it

880
00:46:49,227 --> 00:46:50,867
Speaker 2: is just training. How do you how do you apply

881
00:46:50,947 --> 00:46:52,427
Speaker 2: that pressure in a training situation?

882
00:46:53,787 --> 00:46:57,867
Speaker 15: Yeah, nothing's really just training. You know, our sessions during

883
00:46:57,867 --> 00:47:01,067
Speaker 15: the week and especially our Thursday sessions a high speed,

884
00:47:01,907 --> 00:47:05,147
Speaker 15: no space. The boys that are in the twenty three

885
00:47:05,227 --> 00:47:08,107
Speaker 15: are always applying mess of pressure and looking to apply

886
00:47:08,267 --> 00:47:10,227
Speaker 15: just as much, if not more pressure than what the

887
00:47:10,267 --> 00:47:12,867
Speaker 15: opposition and the weekend are going to do. So Thursday

888
00:47:12,907 --> 00:47:16,707
Speaker 15: we built our weeks at Thursday's high speed, high pressure

889
00:47:16,547 --> 00:47:20,147
Speaker 15: and not much time or space. So yeah, which could

890
00:47:20,147 --> 00:47:22,107
Speaker 15: be more accurately to flow into the game.

891
00:47:22,427 --> 00:47:25,427
Speaker 2: Are the players executing the game plan you want them to?

892
00:47:27,547 --> 00:47:31,227
Speaker 15: Yeah? As I say, yeah, the game plan and what

893
00:47:31,267 --> 00:47:34,507
Speaker 15: we're looking to achieve is showing some really good moments

894
00:47:34,507 --> 00:47:39,747
Speaker 15: at times those were scoring thirty points and being able

895
00:47:39,787 --> 00:47:42,907
Speaker 15: to you know, as the things we've talked around around

896
00:47:42,907 --> 00:47:45,347
Speaker 15: some of our stuff and putting pressure on ourselves is

897
00:47:46,187 --> 00:47:50,867
Speaker 15: more around execution and making good decisions at good times.

898
00:47:50,907 --> 00:47:53,267
Speaker 15: So there's a click as a coaching group and as

899
00:47:53,267 --> 00:47:57,067
Speaker 15: a playing group, when we'll keep working really hard making

900
00:47:57,067 --> 00:48:00,147
Speaker 15: sure we can execute what we intend put out of you.

901
00:48:00,627 --> 00:48:02,667
Speaker 2: Did you get what you expected from Argentina?

902
00:48:04,227 --> 00:48:08,227
Speaker 15: Yep, yep, one hundred percent. The mushroom if for the

903
00:48:08,227 --> 00:48:10,547
Speaker 15: court physicality, they're ablieve to get off the line and

904
00:48:10,547 --> 00:48:14,627
Speaker 15: put pressure on you. And then the the kerry and

905
00:48:14,667 --> 00:48:18,227
Speaker 15: that the big boys and they you know, have been

906
00:48:18,227 --> 00:48:20,307
Speaker 15: pretty impressive and the lead up and we knew exactly

907
00:48:20,307 --> 00:48:23,387
Speaker 15: what was coming there with both sides of the ball.

908
00:48:23,507 --> 00:48:26,707
Speaker 15: So yep, we got that. And uh no credit to them.

909
00:48:26,747 --> 00:48:28,827
Speaker 15: They were they were they were good, and they heard

910
00:48:28,867 --> 00:48:30,747
Speaker 15: us for the little bit that we didn't get right.

911
00:48:31,267 --> 00:48:34,387
Speaker 2: And uh, I guess this is all still relatively new

912
00:48:34,627 --> 00:48:36,467
Speaker 2: to you guys as a coaching group for the first

913
00:48:36,467 --> 00:48:39,027
Speaker 2: time on a Sunday, you're you're picking over the bones

914
00:48:39,027 --> 00:48:42,027
Speaker 2: of a defeat. What what will that process look like

915
00:48:42,107 --> 00:48:44,227
Speaker 2: for the rest of today and into tomorrow? When do

916
00:48:44,267 --> 00:48:46,747
Speaker 2: you when do you finish your review and start looking

917
00:48:46,827 --> 00:48:47,907
Speaker 2: ahead to next Saturday?

918
00:48:48,747 --> 00:48:51,307
Speaker 15: Yeah, look, obviously today's a travel day, so we traveled

919
00:48:51,347 --> 00:48:54,187
Speaker 15: all done this afternoon. A good few of us have

920
00:48:54,267 --> 00:48:59,067
Speaker 15: been watching watching the footage one morning and having some

921
00:48:59,107 --> 00:49:02,067
Speaker 15: meetings and some conversations around around all the things that you,

922
00:49:02,267 --> 00:49:03,427
Speaker 15: you and me have just talked around.

923
00:49:03,547 --> 00:49:05,627
Speaker 14: So we'll we'll.

924
00:49:05,427 --> 00:49:08,187
Speaker 15: Have lots of conversations as we travel the meetings tonight

925
00:49:08,267 --> 00:49:12,547
Speaker 15: and we'll review in the morning and then look at

926
00:49:12,547 --> 00:49:15,187
Speaker 15: the way that we're going to look to beat Argentina

927
00:49:15,187 --> 00:49:17,587
Speaker 15: on the weekend, on dunchdown tomorrow and move forwards.

928
00:49:17,627 --> 00:49:19,347
Speaker 14: So we've got a learning no idea.

929
00:49:19,707 --> 00:49:22,867
Speaker 15: This environment was hard on each other, having each other

930
00:49:22,907 --> 00:49:26,387
Speaker 15: as coaches and hard each other's players, and we worked

931
00:49:26,427 --> 00:49:30,067
Speaker 15: really hard to make sure Yeah, we put we put

932
00:49:30,067 --> 00:49:31,547
Speaker 15: a bit of performance that we did last night.

933
00:49:31,667 --> 00:49:33,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got to frame a reference now with Argentina.

934
00:49:33,667 --> 00:49:35,507
Speaker 2: So do you is it more is it likely that

935
00:49:35,547 --> 00:49:37,747
Speaker 2: you'll just use a similar kind of game plan and

936
00:49:37,747 --> 00:49:40,107
Speaker 2: just look to execute better or do you think there'll

937
00:49:40,147 --> 00:49:41,227
Speaker 2: be tweaks to the game plan?

938
00:49:42,227 --> 00:49:44,467
Speaker 15: Our combination of both, combination of both, There will be

939
00:49:44,507 --> 00:49:46,267
Speaker 15: some areas that we look at that we say, okay,

940
00:49:46,267 --> 00:49:49,547
Speaker 15: we'll do things a little bit differently to put them

941
00:49:49,627 --> 00:49:52,427
Speaker 15: under more pressure. So it's a good point. You just

942
00:49:53,107 --> 00:49:55,067
Speaker 15: you've you've got a plan in place for one week

943
00:49:55,067 --> 00:49:56,947
Speaker 15: and then you look at it and we'll tweak it

944
00:49:56,987 --> 00:49:58,227
Speaker 15: but it'll be a combination of both.

945
00:49:58,427 --> 00:50:00,067
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, thanks Jason, I going to plan to

946
00:50:00,107 --> 00:50:03,427
Speaker 2: catch appreciate you by taking our call. Jason Holland, assistant

947
00:50:03,427 --> 00:50:06,187
Speaker 2: coach of the All Blacks, your chance to react to

948
00:50:06,187 --> 00:50:08,227
Speaker 2: what you just heard there from Jason and what you

949
00:50:08,267 --> 00:50:10,307
Speaker 2: saw last night. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

950
00:50:10,307 --> 00:50:11,787
Speaker 2: can open the lines on the rugby. The word I

951
00:50:11,787 --> 00:50:15,507
Speaker 2: wrote down watching last night was and this was after

952
00:50:15,507 --> 00:50:17,627
Speaker 2: the first half, was chaotic. It was all just a

953
00:50:17,667 --> 00:50:22,867
Speaker 2: but helter skelter, the pass, kick catch basics for some reason,

954
00:50:22,947 --> 00:50:25,627
Speaker 2: just seemed to desert some of the best players on

955
00:50:25,667 --> 00:50:30,347
Speaker 2: the planet at kind of inopportune times. Argentina absolutely came,

956
00:50:30,387 --> 00:50:35,947
Speaker 2: as advertised, stuck to a game plan which gave them success.

957
00:50:36,347 --> 00:50:38,587
Speaker 2: They run hard, they tackle hard, they kick well. They

958
00:50:38,707 --> 00:50:42,387
Speaker 2: forced their All Blacks into positions they didn't really want

959
00:50:42,387 --> 00:50:44,867
Speaker 2: to be in less than ideal. No space in the

960
00:50:44,867 --> 00:50:46,547
Speaker 2: middle of the field and no real ability to make

961
00:50:46,587 --> 00:50:48,067
Speaker 2: space out wide. All in all, I think it was

962
00:50:48,107 --> 00:50:50,147
Speaker 2: just a below par performance and all the players said

963
00:50:50,147 --> 00:50:55,227
Speaker 2: that afterwards. I've heard post batted interviews with the likes

964
00:50:55,267 --> 00:50:58,387
Speaker 2: of Jordi, Barrett Boden, Barrett, Artie Savie others, and they

965
00:50:58,427 --> 00:51:00,987
Speaker 2: all said the same thing. We just didn't play well

966
00:51:01,107 --> 00:51:06,307
Speaker 2: enough positives. Always liked to look for them. Sam Darren

967
00:51:06,627 --> 00:51:10,027
Speaker 2: I like him, does the basics well, winsor's lineouts as

968
00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:12,827
Speaker 2: if the ballers trying to him scored a try. He's

969
00:51:12,827 --> 00:51:14,547
Speaker 2: a guy who could be around the All Blacks for

970
00:51:14,547 --> 00:51:17,187
Speaker 2: a long time. I like the look of Sam Dowry.

971
00:51:18,027 --> 00:51:23,587
Speaker 2: Also good to see Will Jordan back after a prolonged

972
00:51:23,627 --> 00:51:27,507
Speaker 2: period on the sidelines. I think obviously he adds to

973
00:51:27,587 --> 00:51:31,467
Speaker 2: any team he's in. But that's about it, really, And again,

974
00:51:32,187 --> 00:51:34,627
Speaker 2: this is nothing that the players don't know. They all

975
00:51:34,667 --> 00:51:36,827
Speaker 2: said exactly the same last night. They were brutally honest

976
00:51:36,827 --> 00:51:39,587
Speaker 2: in their self assessment. Let me know what you thought,

977
00:51:39,907 --> 00:51:42,867
Speaker 2: what you saw, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine,

978
00:51:42,947 --> 00:51:46,067
Speaker 2: two ninety two on text, And just a word on

979
00:51:46,147 --> 00:51:51,827
Speaker 2: the crowd or lack of crowd, twenty five thousand there

980
00:51:51,907 --> 00:51:57,227
Speaker 2: last night. My good friend Brad Olsen messaged me last

981
00:51:57,267 --> 00:51:58,907
Speaker 2: night and said, do you know what the crowd is?

982
00:51:58,947 --> 00:52:01,827
Speaker 2: And I said, well, I've got the official word through,

983
00:52:01,987 --> 00:52:04,627
Speaker 2: which was twenty five thousand. That seems like a very

984
00:52:04,707 --> 00:52:07,187
Speaker 2: arbitrary number to me. You know, whether it's twenty five

985
00:52:07,267 --> 00:52:08,827
Speaker 2: or whether it's twenty four nine, two six or what

986
00:52:08,947 --> 00:52:10,987
Speaker 2: the heck it is that it's around twenty five thousand.

987
00:52:11,067 --> 00:52:14,987
Speaker 2: Let's say Brad came back and said to me that

988
00:52:14,987 --> 00:52:18,787
Speaker 2: that's the lowest crowd for a Test in Wellington since

989
00:52:18,827 --> 00:52:24,387
Speaker 2: the stadium was built. It's the lowest crowd since the

990
00:52:24,427 --> 00:52:28,547
Speaker 2: All Blacks played Argentina at Athletic Park in nineteen ninety seven.

991
00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:31,907
Speaker 2: And there's no way of hiding it in Wellington? Is

992
00:52:31,947 --> 00:52:36,627
Speaker 2: there with those bright yellow seats? Why aren't we turning

993
00:52:36,707 --> 00:52:39,107
Speaker 2: up in the numbers that we used to. Is it

994
00:52:39,147 --> 00:52:43,427
Speaker 2: now just easier not to go? Certainly cheaper Test tickets

995
00:52:43,467 --> 00:52:46,907
Speaker 2: aren't cheap, but a big part of me says, you

996
00:52:46,947 --> 00:52:50,867
Speaker 2: know what, if the tickets aren't going to sell, and

997
00:52:50,907 --> 00:52:53,187
Speaker 2: you know they're not going to sell, and you get

998
00:52:53,307 --> 00:52:56,027
Speaker 2: to the back end of the week before a Test match,

999
00:52:57,907 --> 00:53:01,627
Speaker 2: then pay a visit to a bunch of schools and

1000
00:53:01,707 --> 00:53:05,267
Speaker 2: give some kids who would never even dream of being

1001
00:53:05,307 --> 00:53:08,027
Speaker 2: able to go to an All Blackstis Test the chance

1002
00:53:08,067 --> 00:53:10,627
Speaker 2: to do exactly that. If you're not going to make

1003
00:53:10,667 --> 00:53:14,907
Speaker 2: money from those seats, then do some good with them.

1004
00:53:14,947 --> 00:53:18,067
Speaker 2: A whole bunch of decol one schools in Wellington could

1005
00:53:18,067 --> 00:53:21,027
Speaker 2: have been given those tickets. They could have headed out,

1006
00:53:21,067 --> 00:53:23,827
Speaker 2: the players could have taken them out. Imagine those kids

1007
00:53:25,787 --> 00:53:27,827
Speaker 2: if the All Blacks turn up at their school and say, hey,

1008
00:53:28,027 --> 00:53:31,507
Speaker 2: we're not just here for signatures and selfies. Here's some

1009
00:53:31,507 --> 00:53:32,907
Speaker 2: tickets to the game. And while we're at it, we'll

1010
00:53:32,907 --> 00:53:34,987
Speaker 2: get a bust. You know, we'll get a bust to

1011
00:53:35,027 --> 00:53:35,547
Speaker 2: the game as well.

1012
00:53:35,587 --> 00:53:35,867
Speaker 28: For you.

1013
00:53:36,747 --> 00:53:42,347
Speaker 2: Imagine the good will that would create. Instead we're talking

1014
00:53:42,387 --> 00:53:46,747
Speaker 2: about the bays and bays of yellow seats. But to

1015
00:53:46,787 --> 00:53:49,427
Speaker 2: crack into that, keen to hear your thoughts. Oh, eight

1016
00:53:49,547 --> 00:53:52,347
Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty, I see we've got a full

1017
00:53:52,347 --> 00:53:56,027
Speaker 2: board already. It didn't take food long. I looked away

1018
00:53:56,067 --> 00:53:57,587
Speaker 2: and then look back, and all of a sudden, here

1019
00:53:57,627 --> 00:53:59,867
Speaker 2: we are. So let's get into it, Rusty, thanks for holding.

1020
00:54:00,867 --> 00:54:05,067
Speaker 19: Thank you very much. Well, you know, I think that

1021
00:54:05,187 --> 00:54:07,347
Speaker 19: idea of getting the chill and there is just an

1022
00:54:07,387 --> 00:54:10,547
Speaker 19: absolute winner. But you know, with the powers would be

1023
00:54:10,707 --> 00:54:13,947
Speaker 19: to ever think of that in a practical sense getting

1024
00:54:13,987 --> 00:54:17,307
Speaker 19: onto the game. You know the panic situation when they

1025
00:54:17,347 --> 00:54:20,027
Speaker 19: threw a ball back and back. I think the first

1026
00:54:20,067 --> 00:54:21,867
Speaker 19: ball was thrown by Artie, wasn't.

1027
00:54:21,707 --> 00:54:24,627
Speaker 2: It yes, I think so well.

1028
00:54:25,267 --> 00:54:28,467
Speaker 19: I mean a fighter forward like that, he just picks

1029
00:54:28,507 --> 00:54:31,667
Speaker 19: the ball up and drives forward and sets up. He

1030
00:54:31,747 --> 00:54:35,467
Speaker 19: doesn't throw the ball back. I mean she was with

1031
00:54:35,907 --> 00:54:38,627
Speaker 19: this is kids now. The other thing is the line

1032
00:54:38,707 --> 00:54:41,867
Speaker 19: out now? And again went well, but why oh why

1033
00:54:42,387 --> 00:54:45,787
Speaker 19: when Lord came on the tallest man in the paddock

1034
00:54:46,147 --> 00:54:48,547
Speaker 19: and they threw the ball right out the back, where

1035
00:54:48,627 --> 00:54:51,027
Speaker 19: was the you know, the talk there of what we're

1036
00:54:51,027 --> 00:54:54,147
Speaker 19: going to do with it. It's just ridiculous. You're going

1037
00:54:54,187 --> 00:54:56,627
Speaker 19: to win that ball a lot easier at two and

1038
00:54:56,667 --> 00:54:58,947
Speaker 19: four than you went at the back, and this you've

1039
00:54:58,987 --> 00:55:02,067
Speaker 19: got first five running to it or a man back

1040
00:55:02,107 --> 00:55:05,747
Speaker 19: there ready for it. So where was that discussion? And

1041
00:55:05,787 --> 00:55:08,427
Speaker 19: then I'm going going on to this kicking business in

1042
00:55:08,467 --> 00:55:13,227
Speaker 19: the last quarter of an hour unless when we need points,

1043
00:55:14,027 --> 00:55:16,507
Speaker 19: Bode and Barrett kick the ball and they won the

1044
00:55:16,547 --> 00:55:20,107
Speaker 19: line out. You keep the ball in hand when you're

1045
00:55:20,147 --> 00:55:24,427
Speaker 19: behind and just keep working and working and working, winning

1046
00:55:24,987 --> 00:55:28,667
Speaker 19: winning the rucks, winning this and winning that, but making progress.

1047
00:55:28,707 --> 00:55:31,747
Speaker 19: But kick it and kick it out. It's just ridiculous.

1048
00:55:31,827 --> 00:55:35,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I do. I you surely though, understand that,

1049
00:55:35,787 --> 00:55:37,667
Speaker 2: like if they're just keeping hold of the ball and

1050
00:55:37,707 --> 00:55:40,107
Speaker 2: they're not getting past the advantage line, which Argentina weren't

1051
00:55:40,147 --> 00:55:41,987
Speaker 2: letting them. Do you know, you're just banging against a

1052
00:55:41,987 --> 00:55:44,387
Speaker 2: brick wall. You do have to try other things to field.

1053
00:55:44,427 --> 00:55:46,747
Speaker 2: Position is still valuable in the game of rugby, even

1054
00:55:46,787 --> 00:55:47,707
Speaker 2: if you don't have the ball.

1055
00:55:48,827 --> 00:55:51,987
Speaker 19: Yeah, when you've got a we were tortoise kids on

1056
00:55:52,107 --> 00:55:54,587
Speaker 19: an eight eighty two year old man. We were tortoise kids.

1057
00:55:54,827 --> 00:55:57,467
Speaker 19: When you're against to good forward pack, you get the

1058
00:55:57,507 --> 00:56:00,347
Speaker 19: ball to the outside and keep working to the outside.

1059
00:56:00,627 --> 00:56:03,467
Speaker 19: But how many times did our center get the ball

1060
00:56:03,507 --> 00:56:08,107
Speaker 19: to the wingers? Very very few. And I'll tell you

1061
00:56:08,147 --> 00:56:10,627
Speaker 19: what I did see was brilliant. Haven't seen it for

1062
00:56:10,747 --> 00:56:13,307
Speaker 19: years as the centry kick and we scored.

1063
00:56:13,547 --> 00:56:16,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good, wasn't it. With Cody Taylor charging

1064
00:56:16,187 --> 00:56:17,427
Speaker 2: up the middle. Rusty Sorr. I've got to get to

1065
00:56:17,467 --> 00:56:19,987
Speaker 2: some other calls, mate, But yeah, that was also what

1066
00:56:20,027 --> 00:56:24,227
Speaker 2: impressed me about Sam Dowry that he got that try. Yeah,

1067
00:56:24,267 --> 00:56:27,147
Speaker 2: the center and kick from Bowden Barrett is Cody Taylor

1068
00:56:27,227 --> 00:56:29,347
Speaker 2: charging up the middle. For all the world it looked

1069
00:56:29,387 --> 00:56:32,227
Speaker 2: like he would score. Sam Dowry could easily have just

1070
00:56:32,387 --> 00:56:34,827
Speaker 2: you know, let him sort of you know, leave him

1071
00:56:34,827 --> 00:56:36,587
Speaker 2: to it, but he followed up, just in case, just

1072
00:56:36,627 --> 00:56:40,787
Speaker 2: in case, just in case, and there he was got

1073
00:56:40,827 --> 00:56:45,467
Speaker 2: the try. Someone said they're the best thing for me.

1074
00:56:45,627 --> 00:56:49,307
Speaker 2: Aside from Argentina's performance, was Sam Dowry's mum's reaction to

1075
00:56:49,387 --> 00:56:52,707
Speaker 2: her son's try. I didn't see that she's involved in

1076
00:56:52,707 --> 00:56:55,267
Speaker 2: the all black setup, isn't she Sam Dowry's mum. She's

1077
00:56:55,307 --> 00:57:00,187
Speaker 2: involved in the nutritional side of things. What did you

1078
00:57:00,227 --> 00:57:00,547
Speaker 2: make of it?

1079
00:57:00,627 --> 00:57:03,627
Speaker 28: Mark terrible?

1080
00:57:06,547 --> 00:57:09,787
Speaker 21: One of the most disappointing games I've ever seen. I

1081
00:57:09,867 --> 00:57:12,387
Speaker 21: just wanted to say quickly about Lydia car. I think

1082
00:57:12,387 --> 00:57:15,547
Speaker 21: it's one of the best sporting events I've ever watched.

1083
00:57:15,627 --> 00:57:17,787
Speaker 21: I mean, just the way she handled the pressure while

1084
00:57:17,787 --> 00:57:21,227
Speaker 21: all the competitors just fell away was Yeah, it's just

1085
00:57:21,307 --> 00:57:24,347
Speaker 21: mind blowing. Really, I thought she was years just that. Absolutely,

1086
00:57:24,347 --> 00:57:27,267
Speaker 21: I haven't seen anything like that apart from Tiger Woods

1087
00:57:27,267 --> 00:57:29,507
Speaker 21: in his heyday. Really, it was just she was just

1088
00:57:29,547 --> 00:57:32,547
Speaker 21: so dominant in control, and I thought, yeah, just blew

1089
00:57:32,587 --> 00:57:32,987
Speaker 21: me away.

1090
00:57:33,067 --> 00:57:36,067
Speaker 30: Really amazing how she could turn that on at the

1091
00:57:36,107 --> 00:57:39,867
Speaker 30: Olympics time after time, you know, and it's good to

1092
00:57:39,907 --> 00:57:42,467
Speaker 30: know that she's got into the Hall of Fame and yeah,

1093
00:57:42,627 --> 00:57:43,427
Speaker 30: just incredible.

1094
00:57:43,867 --> 00:57:44,627
Speaker 31: But the All Blacks.

1095
00:57:45,987 --> 00:57:49,267
Speaker 21: It's just yeah, it was just just sad to watch. Really,

1096
00:57:49,267 --> 00:57:53,107
Speaker 21: they look completely disorganized. I think the worst news I

1097
00:57:53,147 --> 00:57:55,467
Speaker 21: heard was raised just before saying they're going to stick

1098
00:57:55,507 --> 00:57:58,867
Speaker 21: with d MAC. I mean, the only reason I can

1099
00:57:58,907 --> 00:58:01,547
Speaker 21: see them sticking with d MAC. And you know, I

1100
00:58:01,547 --> 00:58:03,387
Speaker 21: feel a bit sorry for Bowden bear and I mean

1101
00:58:03,547 --> 00:58:06,707
Speaker 21: you think, wow, you know, he's a multimillionaires, you know,

1102
00:58:06,827 --> 00:58:09,187
Speaker 21: player of the Year twice. But I mean it's a

1103
00:58:09,187 --> 00:58:11,667
Speaker 21: bit like Liam Lawson. I mean, we're seeing d MAC

1104
00:58:11,827 --> 00:58:14,227
Speaker 21: is just not handling it well under the pressure. And

1105
00:58:14,267 --> 00:58:17,547
Speaker 21: you've got you know, two time best player in the world,

1106
00:58:17,987 --> 00:58:21,347
Speaker 21: who I think is, apart from probably Richie m Wanga

1107
00:58:21,547 --> 00:58:24,747
Speaker 21: is is the best number ten in the game. And

1108
00:58:24,747 --> 00:58:26,907
Speaker 21: I mean he's not getting any game time, which probably

1109
00:58:26,907 --> 00:58:29,227
Speaker 21: doesn't help things. But the only thing I can think

1110
00:58:29,267 --> 00:58:32,147
Speaker 21: of why they're sticking with DMAC is that in the

1111
00:58:32,187 --> 00:58:34,707
Speaker 21: next World Cup. I think they're thinking Richie and Wanga

1112
00:58:34,747 --> 00:58:37,987
Speaker 21: will probably be back, and they want d MAC is

1113
00:58:38,027 --> 00:58:40,947
Speaker 21: the backer and Bowden you know, probably paired with Will

1114
00:58:41,027 --> 00:58:41,947
Speaker 21: Jordan as fullback.

1115
00:58:42,147 --> 00:58:45,227
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, potentially. I also don't mind

1116
00:58:45,347 --> 00:58:47,787
Speaker 2: the idea of saying to a player at the start

1117
00:58:47,827 --> 00:58:51,147
Speaker 2: of a year. Look, you're our first five, so play unencumbered.

1118
00:58:51,227 --> 00:58:53,107
Speaker 2: Even if we lose, We're not going to drop you,

1119
00:58:53,467 --> 00:58:56,307
Speaker 2: so don't be fearful of that. And we all know

1120
00:58:56,387 --> 00:58:58,987
Speaker 2: that at his best, Damien mackenzie is a player who

1121
00:58:59,707 --> 00:59:02,987
Speaker 2: you know, who plays best unincumbered. He's a free spirit

1122
00:59:03,467 --> 00:59:05,107
Speaker 2: if you if you like it, and there's not everyone's

1123
00:59:05,107 --> 00:59:06,547
Speaker 2: cup of tea at first five. But I don't don't

1124
00:59:06,587 --> 00:59:10,147
Speaker 2: mind the idea mark of them saying we're not going

1125
00:59:10,227 --> 00:59:11,827
Speaker 2: to drop you just because we've lost the game.

1126
00:59:13,227 --> 00:59:15,627
Speaker 21: And I think you're right in the way, and I

1127
00:59:15,667 --> 00:59:21,107
Speaker 21: think Richie Muhanga did have the same problems when he started,

1128
00:59:21,147 --> 00:59:23,427
Speaker 21: and I guess that's what they're trying to play out

1129
00:59:23,427 --> 00:59:26,187
Speaker 21: with the Mac, you know, I mean that that that

1130
00:59:26,307 --> 00:59:29,547
Speaker 21: super that pressure that comes with testa Mac rugby. They

1131
00:59:29,587 --> 00:59:31,747
Speaker 21: call it the rush defense, but it's basically they have

1132
00:59:31,867 --> 00:59:35,587
Speaker 21: less time to make that the decisions. And I don't

1133
00:59:35,627 --> 00:59:38,667
Speaker 21: think even in Super Rugby Final, you know, d Mac

1134
00:59:38,867 --> 00:59:42,307
Speaker 21: under pressure did not perform well. And you know when

1135
00:59:42,307 --> 00:59:45,267
Speaker 21: he's given time and just a little bit more time,

1136
00:59:45,667 --> 00:59:49,547
Speaker 21: he's amazing, but just under that international pressure, and I

1137
00:59:49,587 --> 00:59:52,787
Speaker 21: mean Jason Holland said before that the Sargentinian is a

1138
00:59:52,827 --> 00:59:55,507
Speaker 21: great side and not a great side. You know, we

1139
00:59:56,227 --> 00:59:58,707
Speaker 21: saw not a great side Australia put to the sword

1140
00:59:58,747 --> 01:00:02,227
Speaker 21: by an amazing South African side and at the moment

1141
01:00:02,227 --> 01:00:04,267
Speaker 21: our all Black team is nowhere near that. And I

1142
01:00:04,307 --> 01:00:06,347
Speaker 21: mean it's quite scary that we're going to be facing

1143
01:00:07,307 --> 01:00:09,867
Speaker 21: South Africa in a very short time and we're probably

1144
01:00:09,867 --> 01:00:13,387
Speaker 21: looking at a similar sort of result that probably Australia

1145
01:00:13,427 --> 01:00:15,627
Speaker 21: at the moment, because I don't actually think we looked

1146
01:00:15,627 --> 01:00:18,187
Speaker 21: that good. We just looked completely disorganized.

1147
01:00:18,827 --> 01:00:20,707
Speaker 2: Good on you, Mark, thanks for your thoughts, good points

1148
01:00:20,747 --> 01:00:23,227
Speaker 2: well made as always. Yeah, the trip to South Africa.

1149
01:00:23,307 --> 01:00:25,947
Speaker 2: I know they'll just concentrate on next weekend's Test against Argentina,

1150
01:00:25,947 --> 01:00:29,067
Speaker 2: But that trip to South Africa. Yeah, I only had

1151
01:00:29,107 --> 01:00:30,947
Speaker 2: half an eye, I must admit on the South African

1152
01:00:30,987 --> 01:00:33,947
Speaker 2: Australian game yesterday. But every time I every time I

1153
01:00:34,067 --> 01:00:36,547
Speaker 2: looked up, it seemed as though the score was going up.

1154
01:00:37,707 --> 01:00:40,107
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a bit of a come down for

1155
01:00:40,707 --> 01:00:43,947
Speaker 2: Joe Schmidt and Australia. We've got to go to Joe

1156
01:00:43,987 --> 01:00:49,187
Speaker 2: Burg in Cape Town and try and win over there. Yeah,

1157
01:00:49,947 --> 01:00:52,867
Speaker 2: let's concentrate on this coming Saturday. First and turning around

1158
01:00:52,907 --> 01:00:54,787
Speaker 2: what happened last night. I guess that's what they'll be saying.

1159
01:00:54,787 --> 01:00:57,707
Speaker 2: One twenty six, Dave Richard, Please holt, I've got to

1160
01:00:57,707 --> 01:00:59,827
Speaker 2: get a breakaway with you right after this. Your calls

1161
01:00:59,827 --> 01:01:02,787
Speaker 2: are welcome on eight ten eighty Back after this on

1162
01:01:02,827 --> 01:01:03,347
Speaker 2: News Talk.

1163
01:01:03,227 --> 01:01:08,187
Speaker 1: SEEDBT the tough Questions after to weekend Sport with Jason

1164
01:01:08,227 --> 01:01:12,147
Speaker 1: Tyne and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

1165
01:01:14,027 --> 01:01:16,107
Speaker 2: Back to the lines on a sec. Here's Scott robertson

1166
01:01:16,107 --> 01:01:18,107
Speaker 2: this morning talking about Damien McKenzie at ten.

1167
01:01:19,387 --> 01:01:22,107
Speaker 32: Damian's got some some hell of moments, isn't he. He

1168
01:01:22,187 --> 01:01:26,587
Speaker 32: showed some really incredible class touches, you know, that chip

1169
01:01:26,667 --> 01:01:31,867
Speaker 32: kick and because short passing games are really really good. Look,

1170
01:01:32,027 --> 01:01:36,587
Speaker 32: Neil grows a game manager. This is the biggest area. Yeah.

1171
01:01:36,627 --> 01:01:39,227
Speaker 2: And does Razor accept that they're going to have to

1172
01:01:39,227 --> 01:01:40,587
Speaker 2: make some changes for next week?

1173
01:01:41,107 --> 01:01:42,347
Speaker 32: Yeah, Look, it's.

1174
01:01:44,947 --> 01:01:45,387
Speaker 28: It's good.

1175
01:01:45,747 --> 01:01:48,067
Speaker 32: The first thing you have to do to accept anything

1176
01:01:48,107 --> 01:01:50,147
Speaker 32: like that to be honest with each other. So we'll

1177
01:01:50,187 --> 01:01:57,347
Speaker 32: be honest. Once we're honest, well appear, you know, with

1178
01:01:57,347 --> 01:01:59,667
Speaker 32: with a real clear focus what's required this week and

1179
01:01:59,707 --> 01:02:01,987
Speaker 32: people owning firstly, to be honest, you'll own it and

1180
01:02:01,987 --> 01:02:04,947
Speaker 32: then get the leaders right in place, and we know

1181
01:02:04,947 --> 01:02:06,307
Speaker 32: how much as a stake this weekend.

1182
01:02:06,907 --> 01:02:09,907
Speaker 2: And is Scott Robertson speaking earlier today, Thanks for holding Dave,

1183
01:02:11,067 --> 01:02:11,587
Speaker 2: that's all right.

1184
01:02:12,387 --> 01:02:14,947
Speaker 27: I don't think they want to let that fortress. They've

1185
01:02:14,947 --> 01:02:17,907
Speaker 27: never lost at Eden Park. They won't want to lose

1186
01:02:17,987 --> 01:02:22,627
Speaker 27: at Eden Park. And I agree with your idea. Get along,

1187
01:02:22,827 --> 01:02:25,347
Speaker 27: give tickets to the schools and the counties and tim

1188
01:02:25,427 --> 01:02:29,347
Speaker 27: and correct out this way. And because they give tickets

1189
01:02:29,347 --> 01:02:35,547
Speaker 27: to my grandsons along to the Blues Blues game out

1190
01:02:35,587 --> 01:02:38,347
Speaker 27: there to see the Blues play, and they should do

1191
01:02:38,427 --> 01:02:42,187
Speaker 27: the same out here all over Auckland and get them along.

1192
01:02:42,227 --> 01:02:47,227
Speaker 27: And they do the basic things right and the forward's

1193
01:02:47,307 --> 01:02:50,147
Speaker 27: mill it, don't get penalties way, and don't let their

1194
01:02:50,227 --> 01:02:53,467
Speaker 27: argentiniansk boards get on top of them. As you said,

1195
01:02:53,707 --> 01:02:58,227
Speaker 27: throw the ball and properly and basic things right. They'll

1196
01:02:58,307 --> 01:03:00,267
Speaker 27: do it. They get it right. They win at Edon Park.

1197
01:03:00,347 --> 01:03:03,147
Speaker 27: They won't want that record record Eden Park.

1198
01:03:03,547 --> 01:03:08,307
Speaker 2: Eden Park's fortress, indeed it is. And I thanks for

1199
01:03:08,307 --> 01:03:10,347
Speaker 2: you Court. I don't think they'll lose there, but then

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01:03:10,347 --> 01:03:13,387
Speaker 2: I didn't think they'd lose last night either the idea,

1201
01:03:13,667 --> 01:03:15,587
Speaker 2: the idea about school kids at the game isn't new,

1202
01:03:16,587 --> 01:03:18,587
Speaker 2: but I was just thinking about it this morning when

1203
01:03:18,587 --> 01:03:20,587
Speaker 2: I was watching a replay of the game and seeing

1204
01:03:20,627 --> 01:03:23,947
Speaker 2: those empty seats and thinking, you're not getting money for

1205
01:03:23,987 --> 01:03:26,507
Speaker 2: those seats anyway. It's like when an aeroplane takes off.

1206
01:03:26,787 --> 01:03:28,467
Speaker 2: Once there are aplane takes off, you can't sell any

1207
01:03:28,507 --> 01:03:31,027
Speaker 2: more tickets to it. Once the game starts, you can't

1208
01:03:31,027 --> 01:03:34,147
Speaker 2: get any more revenue. So what would you rather banks

1209
01:03:34,147 --> 01:03:36,107
Speaker 2: of yellow seats that we're going to be talking about today,

1210
01:03:36,267 --> 01:03:39,427
Speaker 2: or the experience of a lifetime for a bunch of

1211
01:03:39,507 --> 01:03:42,667
Speaker 2: kids who would never get that experience otherwise. There are

1212
01:03:42,667 --> 01:03:45,747
Speaker 2: some kids, I mean, we have to sometimes remember how

1213
01:03:45,827 --> 01:03:49,267
Speaker 2: lucky we are. There are some kids who don't even

1214
01:03:49,307 --> 01:03:51,707
Speaker 2: get to go into the city, let alone get to

1215
01:03:51,707 --> 01:03:55,747
Speaker 2: go to a game of rugby. It is expensive, far

1216
01:03:55,867 --> 01:03:58,667
Speaker 2: beyond the means of a large slice of our population.

1217
01:03:59,947 --> 01:04:03,787
Speaker 2: Imagine if unsold tickets on a Thursday at the back

1218
01:04:03,867 --> 01:04:06,307
Speaker 2: end of the week, or even on the Wednesday, when

1219
01:04:07,067 --> 01:04:09,987
Speaker 2: you know the team typically has a lighter training day.

1220
01:04:10,667 --> 01:04:14,587
Speaker 2: Imagine if Artie Savia and Rico Joanni turn up at

1221
01:04:14,587 --> 01:04:17,627
Speaker 2: your school and hanging out a bunch of Test tickets

1222
01:04:17,947 --> 01:04:19,587
Speaker 2: and say to them and all you have to do

1223
01:04:19,627 --> 01:04:21,587
Speaker 2: is be at this place on Saturday night. We'll bust

1224
01:04:21,627 --> 01:04:28,187
Speaker 2: you when I'm back. Imagine the goodwill and the full

1225
01:04:28,227 --> 01:04:32,667
Speaker 2: stadium as well. Richard, Hi, mate Hi.

1226
01:04:32,827 --> 01:04:34,667
Speaker 14: Finally, it couldn't agree with him more about the ticket.

1227
01:04:34,747 --> 01:04:37,547
Speaker 14: So I couldn't believe my eyes last night when Sky

1228
01:04:37,667 --> 01:04:39,827
Speaker 14: accidentally showed the other side of the stadium, that was

1229
01:04:39,907 --> 01:04:43,147
Speaker 14: I reckon it was three quarters empty on the one side. Yeah,

1230
01:04:43,347 --> 01:04:45,147
Speaker 14: I just thought, and I agree with you. Get the

1231
01:04:45,227 --> 01:04:47,987
Speaker 14: kids involved, because the kids are not feeling in connection

1232
01:04:48,027 --> 01:04:49,867
Speaker 14: with these days, I'm sure of it, and that's why

1233
01:04:49,867 --> 01:04:53,147
Speaker 14: a lot of them aren't playing rugby anymore. But last

1234
01:04:53,227 --> 01:04:59,067
Speaker 14: night's match was a really excellent All Black performance by

1235
01:04:59,147 --> 01:05:02,067
Speaker 14: the opposition, if you think about it in these terms.

1236
01:05:02,267 --> 01:05:07,587
Speaker 14: Argentina considered an early lead in a scrappy try. They

1237
01:05:07,707 --> 01:05:10,387
Speaker 14: fought back from twenty to eight down, They scored both

1238
01:05:10,387 --> 01:05:13,227
Speaker 14: sides and a half time they went under the half down.

1239
01:05:13,307 --> 01:05:15,387
Speaker 14: How often were seeing the All Blacks do that? And

1240
01:05:15,427 --> 01:05:17,747
Speaker 14: then the second half they dealt to the All Blacks

1241
01:05:17,787 --> 01:05:21,187
Speaker 14: twenty three to ten. That's not a small margin, that's

1242
01:05:21,227 --> 01:05:23,987
Speaker 14: a big margin against anybody in the top five teens.

1243
01:05:24,667 --> 01:05:26,947
Speaker 14: Argentina played like the All Blacks last night and the

1244
01:05:26,947 --> 01:05:27,707
Speaker 14: result shows it.

1245
01:05:27,907 --> 01:05:30,147
Speaker 2: That's a great that's a great way of looking at it. Richard,

1246
01:05:30,187 --> 01:05:32,707
Speaker 2: You're right because the stuff you're saying, there's the stuff

1247
01:05:32,707 --> 01:05:34,707
Speaker 2: that we yeah, we used to expect from our team.

1248
01:05:34,787 --> 01:05:37,067
Speaker 2: Right if we were behind, that's okay, we'll run over

1249
01:05:37,067 --> 01:05:39,347
Speaker 2: the top of them, you know, a becket of a game.

1250
01:05:39,387 --> 01:05:41,107
Speaker 2: We'll you know, we'll use our bench to you know,

1251
01:05:41,347 --> 01:05:43,307
Speaker 2: to get the job done. It's a really good point

1252
01:05:43,307 --> 01:05:43,547
Speaker 2: you make.

1253
01:05:44,427 --> 01:05:47,027
Speaker 14: Can I come in on the Australians African match?

1254
01:05:47,107 --> 01:05:47,547
Speaker 2: Yeah? Please?

1255
01:05:48,267 --> 01:05:50,347
Speaker 14: Yeah, I watched that. I'm a bit of a jogment fan.

1256
01:05:50,427 --> 01:05:52,947
Speaker 14: I'm quite enjoying how Australian rug is sending itself around

1257
01:05:52,987 --> 01:05:55,027
Speaker 14: at moment. There isn't a team in the world that

1258
01:05:55,147 --> 01:05:57,347
Speaker 14: was stuck with saith Avera yesterday. That was the best

1259
01:05:57,347 --> 01:06:00,187
Speaker 14: of African performance I've seen in a long time. They

1260
01:06:00,347 --> 01:06:04,187
Speaker 14: absolutely mollered them, They rolled them everywhere. And if it

1261
01:06:04,347 --> 01:06:07,987
Speaker 14: wasn't for the defense of aggression of some of the

1262
01:06:08,387 --> 01:06:11,787
Speaker 14: all the Wallabies, the step score even sixty points. I

1263
01:06:11,787 --> 01:06:13,947
Speaker 14: know that's the strangest thing to say, but that was

1264
01:06:13,987 --> 01:06:17,747
Speaker 14: an impressive South African performance and the All Black coaches

1265
01:06:18,027 --> 01:06:21,587
Speaker 14: must be worried about going to Africa next month. You

1266
01:06:21,707 --> 01:06:22,907
Speaker 14: must be worried about going there.

1267
01:06:23,067 --> 01:06:27,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I am not worried. I'm actually quite curious,

1268
01:06:27,667 --> 01:06:31,107
Speaker 2: to be honest, Richard, because yeah, they South Africa Cleveland.

1269
01:06:31,147 --> 01:06:32,347
Speaker 2: Like I said, I didn't watch the game in as

1270
01:06:32,387 --> 01:06:33,987
Speaker 2: much detail as you did. I've I've sort of I've

1271
01:06:33,987 --> 01:06:35,307
Speaker 2: had a look at the highlights. Like I say, every

1272
01:06:35,347 --> 01:06:37,667
Speaker 2: time I looked up last night, they were putting points on.

1273
01:06:37,747 --> 01:06:40,307
Speaker 2: But from what you've seed, they're they're they're They're an

1274
01:06:40,307 --> 01:06:43,147
Speaker 2: imposing force as they always are, but maybe even more

1275
01:06:43,187 --> 01:06:45,147
Speaker 2: so this year because Australia have kind of been a

1276
01:06:45,147 --> 01:06:46,867
Speaker 2: bit like us even't though they've won their first couple

1277
01:06:46,867 --> 01:06:50,467
Speaker 2: against against Wales and and you know, not got to

1278
01:06:50,547 --> 01:06:52,427
Speaker 2: the top of their game, but against a real opposition

1279
01:06:52,507 --> 01:06:55,347
Speaker 2: like South Africa, they clearly what do you they got, Mullard.

1280
01:06:55,627 --> 01:07:00,387
Speaker 14: Mullard, Yeah, well, they spent their entire first half in

1281
01:07:00,427 --> 01:07:04,027
Speaker 14: their own half, the worldbeest, and they didn't like scoring

1282
01:07:04,107 --> 01:07:07,827
Speaker 14: for seventy minutes. That's that's more of a friction of

1283
01:07:08,307 --> 01:07:10,667
Speaker 14: the South Africans and how well organized they are, right

1284
01:07:10,667 --> 01:07:13,987
Speaker 14: now because they're organized and those forwards are big, and

1285
01:07:14,027 --> 01:07:18,347
Speaker 14: they're fast, and they're confident, and it's a Beth He's

1286
01:07:18,387 --> 01:07:21,107
Speaker 14: going to be difficult to stop, very difficult to stop.

1287
01:07:21,427 --> 01:07:22,347
Speaker 14: It's a good team.

1288
01:07:22,467 --> 01:07:24,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, good on your Richard. Hey, thanks mate, Please call again.

1289
01:07:24,867 --> 01:07:28,227
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed listening here to your analysis. Yeah, please please

1290
01:07:28,387 --> 01:07:30,587
Speaker 2: stick with us across the Rugby Championship. Might i'd like

1291
01:07:30,667 --> 01:07:33,107
Speaker 2: to hear from you again? Eight hundred and eighty ten

1292
01:07:33,187 --> 01:07:35,107
Speaker 2: eighty kids don't go to the city. What is there

1293
01:07:35,107 --> 01:07:35,387
Speaker 2: to see that?

1294
01:07:35,507 --> 01:07:35,627
Speaker 23: Now?

1295
01:07:35,627 --> 01:07:37,827
Speaker 2: What I guess what I meant was that a trip

1296
01:07:37,907 --> 01:07:39,907
Speaker 2: into the city is like we go to town is

1297
01:07:39,907 --> 01:07:43,507
Speaker 2: a bit of a treat, right. I remember hearing from

1298
01:07:43,507 --> 01:07:45,627
Speaker 2: some kids who got free tickets to a Phoenix game,

1299
01:07:46,667 --> 01:07:49,627
Speaker 2: and that's that's where I guess I got this this

1300
01:07:49,787 --> 01:07:51,987
Speaker 2: phrase from. Is that not only was it the first

1301
01:07:52,027 --> 01:07:54,467
Speaker 2: time a lot of these kids had been to the stadium,

1302
01:07:54,947 --> 01:07:56,307
Speaker 2: it was the first time a lot of them based

1303
01:07:56,307 --> 01:07:58,107
Speaker 2: out in the Hut Valley had even been into the city.

1304
01:07:58,947 --> 01:08:01,427
Speaker 2: There was this whole new world for them. Not saying

1305
01:08:01,427 --> 01:08:02,827
Speaker 2: that they should be able to go in there all

1306
01:08:02,907 --> 01:08:05,147
Speaker 2: or would want to, but the fact that they had

1307
01:08:05,227 --> 01:08:08,827
Speaker 2: never left the Hut Valley and gone into Wellington City.

1308
01:08:10,107 --> 01:08:12,387
Speaker 2: As I said, we need to remember that not everybody

1309
01:08:12,427 --> 01:08:13,307
Speaker 2: is as lucky as us.

1310
01:08:15,827 --> 01:08:18,347
Speaker 13: Hey, Kevin, how.

1311
01:08:18,187 --> 01:08:18,987
Speaker 28: Are you good?

1312
01:08:19,747 --> 01:08:23,707
Speaker 23: Can I just make two points from last night the

1313
01:08:23,787 --> 01:08:27,507
Speaker 23: rugby yep? First of all, this seems to be a

1314
01:08:27,547 --> 01:08:29,907
Speaker 23: lot of people wanting to knock Damien McKenzie, and I

1315
01:08:29,947 --> 01:08:33,387
Speaker 23: think it was all based around that scrambled towards the

1316
01:08:33,467 --> 01:08:36,787
Speaker 23: end of the game when the Argentinian scored, the ball

1317
01:08:36,907 --> 01:08:40,427
Speaker 23: came back and it was surrounded Damien McKenzie and then

1318
01:08:40,627 --> 01:08:45,307
Speaker 23: he tried to get it back to Barrett. But if

1319
01:08:45,347 --> 01:08:47,747
Speaker 23: you have a look how that started, and it was

1320
01:08:47,947 --> 01:08:50,707
Speaker 23: Ardie save that stuffed that up. He went down for

1321
01:08:50,827 --> 01:08:52,947
Speaker 23: the ball when it was a bit of a maul

1322
01:08:53,107 --> 01:08:55,267
Speaker 23: and Radama was trying to pick it up, and he

1323
01:08:55,387 --> 01:08:58,027
Speaker 23: took it off radamah and he was and he threw

1324
01:08:58,107 --> 01:09:03,267
Speaker 23: that pass that was nowhere near McKenzie, And of course

1325
01:09:03,347 --> 01:09:05,667
Speaker 23: McKenzie then at the scramble and he tried to get

1326
01:09:05,707 --> 01:09:09,147
Speaker 23: it back and Barrett was running, was running and overran it.

1327
01:09:09,547 --> 01:09:11,827
Speaker 23: So that was just a comedy of errors. But I

1328
01:09:11,867 --> 01:09:14,827
Speaker 23: reckon it was Ardie Savia caused that, and I think

1329
01:09:14,827 --> 01:09:16,507
Speaker 23: he wants to go back and have a look at that.

1330
01:09:16,787 --> 01:09:18,907
Speaker 23: If the halfback wants the ball, let him have it.

1331
01:09:18,947 --> 01:09:20,147
Speaker 23: For God's sake, I.

1332
01:09:20,067 --> 01:09:23,307
Speaker 2: Think Kevin, I think he's so yeah, I'll let you

1333
01:09:23,307 --> 01:09:25,547
Speaker 2: get to your second point. Just on that. Artie Savia

1334
01:09:25,587 --> 01:09:27,387
Speaker 2: totally owned up to that last night. He said yeah.

1335
01:09:27,587 --> 01:09:29,827
Speaker 2: He held his hand up in the postmatch press conference

1336
01:09:29,827 --> 01:09:31,187
Speaker 2: and said exactly that.

1337
01:09:31,587 --> 01:09:31,747
Speaker 13: Yah.

1338
01:09:32,387 --> 01:09:34,147
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but no, no, no, no. I wouldn't have

1339
01:09:34,147 --> 01:09:36,147
Speaker 2: expected you to have heard it. I just wanted to

1340
01:09:36,347 --> 01:09:38,827
Speaker 2: make the point that, yeah, of anybody, and they all

1341
01:09:38,827 --> 01:09:41,627
Speaker 2: did it, but he in particular owned that specific mistake

1342
01:09:41,627 --> 01:09:43,067
Speaker 2: that he made. Sorry your second point.

1343
01:09:44,427 --> 01:09:47,467
Speaker 23: Yeah, My second point is that I believe that under

1344
01:09:47,507 --> 01:09:51,707
Speaker 23: this current regime we tended to run our subs on

1345
01:09:51,947 --> 01:09:54,867
Speaker 23: and all our subs were newbies. Now, if you have

1346
01:09:54,987 --> 01:09:57,707
Speaker 23: a look at the Argentinians and who they brought on

1347
01:09:58,027 --> 01:10:01,147
Speaker 23: towards the end a man, there's a lot of experience

1348
01:10:01,187 --> 01:10:05,307
Speaker 23: there and the South Africans do that. If you want impact,

1349
01:10:05,867 --> 01:10:09,627
Speaker 23: you don't give it to newbies that really haven't been

1350
01:10:09,707 --> 01:10:13,107
Speaker 23: under pressure like that. Amoa threw the ball and badly twice.

1351
01:10:14,187 --> 01:10:16,587
Speaker 23: They took the young fellow that they had in what's

1352
01:10:16,627 --> 01:10:17,187
Speaker 23: his name.

1353
01:10:17,587 --> 01:10:21,387
Speaker 2: Darryl or the Locke, the New Boys, Sam Deary, the Blues,

1354
01:10:21,427 --> 01:10:22,787
Speaker 2: Sam Deary.

1355
01:10:22,467 --> 01:10:25,507
Speaker 23: Yeah, Sam dearrk darry that's it. He was going like

1356
01:10:25,547 --> 01:10:27,747
Speaker 23: a train. Why take him off? He can run for

1357
01:10:27,787 --> 01:10:31,707
Speaker 23: eighty minutes for goodness sake, these guys if they why

1358
01:10:31,707 --> 01:10:33,987
Speaker 23: do we have to pull them off? He know. I

1359
01:10:33,987 --> 01:10:35,867
Speaker 23: bet he got off the field and thought, Buggert, I'm

1360
01:10:35,907 --> 01:10:38,907
Speaker 23: doing all right. And I just looked at the changes

1361
01:10:38,947 --> 01:10:43,427
Speaker 23: they made and they all seemed to they didn't have

1362
01:10:43,507 --> 01:10:48,467
Speaker 23: any effect. But maybe you bring on Cody Taylor as

1363
01:10:48,507 --> 01:10:50,667
Speaker 23: the impact player rather than run him on. But he

1364
01:10:50,707 --> 01:10:53,107
Speaker 23: could probably could have run for eighty minutes too. So

1365
01:10:53,227 --> 01:10:56,707
Speaker 23: I just think that we seem to want to change

1366
01:10:57,027 --> 01:10:58,987
Speaker 23: when a lot of these players should be fit enough

1367
01:10:59,027 --> 01:11:02,547
Speaker 23: to play at least sixty five minutes going on, you

1368
01:11:02,627 --> 01:11:04,867
Speaker 23: know what I mean. So that's my point. I just

1369
01:11:04,907 --> 01:11:09,067
Speaker 23: think they made very bad choices with their subs.

1370
01:11:09,307 --> 01:11:11,787
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin, two points well made by you. Yeah,

1371
01:11:11,827 --> 01:11:14,227
Speaker 2: I mean Argentina, when you've got Augustine Cleevey coming off

1372
01:11:14,227 --> 01:11:16,707
Speaker 2: the bench who scored a really nice try, didn't he

1373
01:11:16,707 --> 01:11:19,387
Speaker 2: a guy who's played one hundred and ten Test matches

1374
01:11:19,387 --> 01:11:22,267
Speaker 2: for Argentina then yeah, you've you've got, you know, a

1375
01:11:22,347 --> 01:11:25,747
Speaker 2: real weapon there. Just on al Moor, I've always liked

1376
01:11:25,747 --> 01:11:27,747
Speaker 2: the way I suffer. I more plays the game of rugby.

1377
01:11:29,387 --> 01:11:32,107
Speaker 2: But and a lot of what's impressive about him happens

1378
01:11:32,147 --> 01:11:35,747
Speaker 2: in the loose, picks it up, thighs pumping, gets up

1379
01:11:35,747 --> 01:11:39,227
Speaker 2: over the advantage line, takes guys on, smashes into them,

1380
01:11:39,227 --> 01:11:42,787
Speaker 2: that sort of thing. But he again freely admits that

1381
01:11:42,827 --> 01:11:46,027
Speaker 2: it is his core role that he has to work on,

1382
01:11:46,107 --> 01:11:47,827
Speaker 2: and that a couple of throws into the line out

1383
01:11:47,907 --> 01:11:50,787
Speaker 2: last night just I'm sure he's looking back today thinking

1384
01:11:51,067 --> 01:11:54,747
Speaker 2: I must be better. I must be better. They're they're

1385
01:11:54,747 --> 01:11:57,867
Speaker 2: all thinking that after the game last night. I don't think.

1386
01:11:57,867 --> 01:12:00,427
Speaker 2: I don't think. I can't remember a time where there

1387
01:12:00,507 --> 01:12:05,867
Speaker 2: was as much honest self evaluation so soon after the

1388
01:12:05,867 --> 01:12:11,227
Speaker 2: final was or from all Blacks players they know, they

1389
01:12:11,267 --> 01:12:15,347
Speaker 2: know nineteen to two back with more calls after this

1390
01:12:15,387 --> 01:12:16,227
Speaker 2: On News Talks EP.

1391
01:12:16,707 --> 01:12:20,627
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1392
01:12:20,187 --> 01:12:21,907
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1393
01:12:22,107 --> 01:12:24,907
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1394
01:12:25,027 --> 01:12:28,107
Speaker 2: News Talks MB Matt says Jason crowd was disappointing, but

1395
01:12:28,147 --> 01:12:30,387
Speaker 2: not surprising with all the job cuts and cost of living,

1396
01:12:30,467 --> 01:12:33,507
Speaker 2: Wellington's really struggling. If someone's worried about their mortgage, a

1397
01:12:33,507 --> 01:12:35,987
Speaker 2: couple of hundred bucks for rugby tickets isn't a priority.

1398
01:12:36,027 --> 01:12:38,147
Speaker 2: Good point, Matt Allison says. One reason for the empty

1399
01:12:38,147 --> 01:12:40,827
Speaker 2: stadium the Olympics. Many of us wanted to see the

1400
01:12:40,867 --> 01:12:45,107
Speaker 2: single skulls with Lisa and Amy. All right, Bevan, let

1401
01:12:45,107 --> 01:12:45,507
Speaker 2: me have it.

1402
01:12:46,467 --> 01:12:50,187
Speaker 17: All right, I'm going to give it to you. Nighttime

1403
01:12:50,267 --> 01:12:53,947
Speaker 17: rugby and I've been on it forever is the reason

1404
01:12:53,987 --> 01:12:56,187
Speaker 17: why those seats were empty. I mean, if you look

1405
01:12:56,187 --> 01:13:02,027
Speaker 17: at Brisbane Wallabies and South Africa sold out. So I

1406
01:13:02,027 --> 01:13:06,467
Speaker 17: don't care anymore about this argument about the northern hemisphere. Well,

1407
01:13:06,347 --> 01:13:09,507
Speaker 17: well there's no normal northern hemisphere, so why was the

1408
01:13:09,587 --> 01:13:13,387
Speaker 17: game at nighttime? The second point I'd like to make

1409
01:13:13,507 --> 01:13:15,707
Speaker 17: is that we don't have size. We don't have this.

1410
01:13:15,987 --> 01:13:18,387
Speaker 17: We've got no bulk. You know, you think about Sunny

1411
01:13:18,387 --> 01:13:21,507
Speaker 17: Burll and none who you know people like that. We

1412
01:13:21,587 --> 01:13:25,187
Speaker 17: don't have that size anymore. And in my opinion Argentina,

1413
01:13:25,267 --> 01:13:27,707
Speaker 17: it just masses. And when the All Blacks come up

1414
01:13:27,707 --> 01:13:30,947
Speaker 17: against South Africa, well it's going to be even worse.

1415
01:13:31,067 --> 01:13:33,427
Speaker 17: I mean, those guys are just like running bulls.

1416
01:13:35,507 --> 01:13:40,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't disagree with either thing. BEVN the daytime stuff.

1417
01:13:40,427 --> 01:13:43,347
Speaker 2: You're right if in some sort of parallel universe the

1418
01:13:43,387 --> 01:13:45,307
Speaker 2: All Blacks are playing at two thirty on a Saturday

1419
01:13:45,347 --> 01:13:48,107
Speaker 2: afternoon rather than seven o'clock at night, I think you're right.

1420
01:13:48,147 --> 01:13:50,747
Speaker 2: I think there are more there. It just kind of yeah,

1421
01:13:50,787 --> 01:13:54,107
Speaker 2: and it was. Was there any reason given for the

1422
01:13:54,347 --> 01:13:57,747
Speaker 2: for the Australia South Africa game being being at that time?

1423
01:13:57,827 --> 01:14:01,947
Speaker 2: Was it purely for the crowds? It can't have been broadcast.

1424
01:14:02,267 --> 01:14:06,067
Speaker 17: Because of the AFL. I suppose that's sort of yeah,

1425
01:14:06,547 --> 01:14:08,227
Speaker 17: they sort of wanted that, you know, there's a bit

1426
01:14:08,267 --> 01:14:13,267
Speaker 17: more of a bit more people looking on television. But

1427
01:14:13,307 --> 01:14:15,507
Speaker 17: the thing is is that, you know, like when there's

1428
01:14:15,587 --> 01:14:18,707
Speaker 17: daytime rugby, you know, I reckon if because Wellington was

1429
01:14:18,787 --> 01:14:22,387
Speaker 17: it was a nice day yesterday, Well why yeah, Like

1430
01:14:22,427 --> 01:14:25,267
Speaker 17: why wouldn't you Why wouldn't you do it? Like I

1431
01:14:25,667 --> 01:14:30,547
Speaker 17: just don't understand this obsession. Every time the Orbitex play

1432
01:14:30,707 --> 01:14:32,787
Speaker 17: it's at nighttime, I mean, and it's I mean, who

1433
01:14:32,867 --> 01:14:34,827
Speaker 17: wants to do that? I mean, who wants to go

1434
01:14:34,907 --> 01:14:37,707
Speaker 17: out there? Get your kids in the car? And stuff.

1435
01:14:37,707 --> 01:14:39,467
Speaker 17: You go to have the dinner before dinner after and

1436
01:14:39,507 --> 01:14:40,947
Speaker 17: then you've got to get out of there, and it's

1437
01:14:40,987 --> 01:14:43,387
Speaker 17: just like and then you lose or whatever. I mean,

1438
01:14:43,427 --> 01:14:45,787
Speaker 17: you know, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But I mean,

1439
01:14:45,867 --> 01:14:48,787
Speaker 17: it's it's not a it's not an attractive proposition.

1440
01:14:50,227 --> 01:14:52,587
Speaker 2: It's not an attractive proposition. It's a good, good way

1441
01:14:52,587 --> 01:14:56,907
Speaker 2: to finish that that little encapsulation of it, Bevan, It's

1442
01:14:56,907 --> 01:15:00,547
Speaker 2: not an attractive proposition. You're right, Otherwise that would there

1443
01:15:00,547 --> 01:15:02,507
Speaker 2: would have been more there last night than twenty five thousand.

1444
01:15:03,947 --> 01:15:08,387
Speaker 2: You know, again, this is perhaps unfair, but I feel

1445
01:15:08,427 --> 01:15:10,547
Speaker 2: like this is I'm reading the pulse right here. It's

1446
01:15:11,467 --> 01:15:15,067
Speaker 2: people say it's only Argentina. They're not as glamorous an

1447
01:15:15,107 --> 01:15:19,467
Speaker 2: opponent as Australia or South Africa or England even you know,

1448
01:15:19,507 --> 01:15:22,067
Speaker 2: it's only Argentina. They don't tend to be box office.

1449
01:15:23,867 --> 01:15:25,547
Speaker 2: I wonder how it will be this coming Saturday at

1450
01:15:25,627 --> 01:15:31,387
Speaker 2: Eden Park. Will they absolutely definitely sell Eden Park out?

1451
01:15:33,147 --> 01:15:34,827
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that they will. I hope they do,

1452
01:15:35,067 --> 01:15:38,227
Speaker 2: of course, I hope they do. You want people, We all,

1453
01:15:38,267 --> 01:15:39,947
Speaker 2: I think want the same thing, don't we. For the

1454
01:15:39,987 --> 01:15:44,107
Speaker 2: most part, we want full Stadia to watch our all

1455
01:15:44,147 --> 01:15:48,627
Speaker 2: blacks Eden parks a fortress. Got to make sure it

1456
01:15:48,627 --> 01:15:51,307
Speaker 2: stays that way.

1457
01:15:51,987 --> 01:15:56,027
Speaker 33: Hello, Murray, Hey doing pony. Well, the public have got

1458
01:15:56,227 --> 01:15:59,107
Speaker 33: everything they wanted, so we're glad you brought it up.

1459
01:15:59,427 --> 01:16:01,547
Speaker 33: I mean, after sort of baying for blood and the

1460
01:16:01,627 --> 01:16:04,867
Speaker 33: trial by me, they've got rid of Fozzy, they've got

1461
01:16:04,907 --> 01:16:08,587
Speaker 33: rid of Cane basically had bb relegated to the bench,

1462
01:16:08,667 --> 01:16:12,987
Speaker 33: and now Rico for the snatch as well. So what

1463
01:16:13,347 --> 01:16:18,147
Speaker 33: surprised me is how despondent and almost dejected Scott Robinson

1464
01:16:18,187 --> 01:16:22,667
Speaker 33: sounded when we're just talking about Damien mckenzey, No, Damien McKenzie,

1465
01:16:22,707 --> 01:16:27,947
Speaker 33: when we've talked about Dave McKenzie and supporting him while

1466
01:16:27,987 --> 01:16:32,147
Speaker 33: he's learning. Excuse me, I just fell off my chairman.

1467
01:16:32,227 --> 01:16:34,907
Speaker 33: Damien McKenzie has been all back for eight years now.

1468
01:16:35,427 --> 01:16:37,907
Speaker 33: I don't want any learning. I want a performance.

1469
01:16:38,907 --> 01:16:41,227
Speaker 2: I guess it's you know, no Ray, no, no good point.

1470
01:16:41,467 --> 01:16:44,947
Speaker 2: I guess Damien McKenzie has never played under razor and

1471
01:16:45,147 --> 01:16:47,347
Speaker 2: the first five is a big part of a game plan, right,

1472
01:16:47,427 --> 01:16:50,347
Speaker 2: so maybe you know if I'm playing Devil's advocate. To

1473
01:16:50,347 --> 01:16:54,747
Speaker 2: your point, I'd say you know that Damien McKenzie is

1474
01:16:54,827 --> 01:16:56,987
Speaker 2: learning how to play within Scott Robertson's system.

1475
01:16:58,507 --> 01:16:59,187
Speaker 33: Yeah, I get it.

1476
01:16:59,347 --> 01:17:01,467
Speaker 2: No, I mean you no, No, Look, I don't know

1477
01:17:01,507 --> 01:17:03,267
Speaker 2: whether I'm right or you're right, or neither of us

1478
01:17:03,267 --> 01:17:05,147
Speaker 2: are right or wrong. But I just wonder whether that's

1479
01:17:05,187 --> 01:17:05,627
Speaker 2: what he meant.

1480
01:17:07,747 --> 01:17:09,427
Speaker 14: Yeah, I.

1481
01:17:11,347 --> 01:17:13,147
Speaker 33: Mean I was at the last I was. I was

1482
01:17:13,187 --> 01:17:15,427
Speaker 33: pretty much delivered last night with how things turned out.

1483
01:17:15,467 --> 01:17:18,267
Speaker 33: And I I thought about half time we were done

1484
01:17:19,387 --> 01:17:21,707
Speaker 33: when it was twenty fifteen, I was in covenant at all.

1485
01:17:23,227 --> 01:17:25,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, you weren't confident even though we were a hit

1486
01:17:25,347 --> 01:17:27,547
Speaker 2: at half time. Must know we were a hit at

1487
01:17:27,547 --> 01:17:28,067
Speaker 2: half time.

1488
01:17:29,627 --> 01:17:30,507
Speaker 15: I wasn't.

1489
01:17:30,867 --> 01:17:32,587
Speaker 33: No, I was too much. It was too scrabby, too

1490
01:17:32,627 --> 01:17:36,987
Speaker 33: much going on, didn't didn't didn't look I thought fig

1491
01:17:37,947 --> 01:17:39,907
Speaker 33: the fact that we went and played FIGI I thought

1492
01:17:39,907 --> 01:17:42,987
Speaker 33: there was a waste of time and it didn't advance

1493
01:17:43,147 --> 01:17:46,107
Speaker 33: our rugby dal In. We paid the price last night

1494
01:17:46,627 --> 01:17:48,227
Speaker 33: and it could have been a lot worse. If BB

1495
01:17:48,347 --> 01:17:50,347
Speaker 33: having two none performance to get Thinger, we'd be looking

1496
01:17:50,387 --> 01:17:51,787
Speaker 33: at two losses. And you know it. Ever in the

1497
01:17:51,787 --> 01:17:52,387
Speaker 33: country knows that.

1498
01:17:53,147 --> 01:17:54,707
Speaker 2: Oh Murray, I'm not going to argue with that about

1499
01:17:54,747 --> 01:17:56,827
Speaker 2: Boden Barratt's performance against it with the neat and park

1500
01:17:56,867 --> 01:18:01,147
Speaker 2: there was sensational. Yeah, I totally agree. People have made

1501
01:18:01,147 --> 01:18:04,587
Speaker 2: the point that the Warriors sell out rayan Halo shine

1502
01:18:04,987 --> 01:18:08,067
Speaker 2: at nighttime as well. It's a good point. Australian Rugby

1503
01:18:08,107 --> 01:18:10,947
Speaker 2: advertised US today's test, says Keith, as family friendly. I

1504
01:18:10,947 --> 01:18:14,867
Speaker 2: think they also had family tickets. Terrific idea, terrific idea.

1505
01:18:15,467 --> 01:18:19,027
Speaker 34: Ricardo, Hi mate, Hey good so only can hear me aka?

1506
01:18:19,227 --> 01:18:23,027
Speaker 34: I can fantastic. Look, we've had this problem for years,

1507
01:18:23,067 --> 01:18:27,747
Speaker 34: to be honest, midfield. Midfield seems to be a huge

1508
01:18:27,787 --> 01:18:31,067
Speaker 34: issue for US ever since Noney sort of left. You know,

1509
01:18:31,107 --> 01:18:36,467
Speaker 34: you noticed an international play. You know, these two two

1510
01:18:36,547 --> 01:18:40,427
Speaker 34: key areas that are quite intimidating for the opposition, and

1511
01:18:40,467 --> 01:18:43,307
Speaker 34: that's the centers who evers playing in that censer position

1512
01:18:43,387 --> 01:18:45,787
Speaker 34: twelve or thirteen, because you know, you've got that robust,

1513
01:18:45,867 --> 01:18:48,627
Speaker 34: sort of no nonsense sort of approach player that's just

1514
01:18:48,627 --> 01:18:50,507
Speaker 34: going to bang it up the middle and run it straight.

1515
01:18:50,907 --> 01:18:53,347
Speaker 34: And then you've got that intimidating sort of cano sort

1516
01:18:53,347 --> 01:18:56,027
Speaker 34: of factor in that forward pack, either a six uce

1517
01:18:56,227 --> 01:18:58,667
Speaker 34: or eight that's going to fly out of nowhere and

1518
01:18:58,747 --> 01:19:02,067
Speaker 34: absolutely become Akazi, anyone that's coming through. We don't have

1519
01:19:02,267 --> 01:19:04,627
Speaker 34: any of those fear factors in either of those positions.

1520
01:19:05,027 --> 01:19:07,827
Speaker 34: You know, Rico Yowanna, Yeah, okay, whilst he was benched,

1521
01:19:08,107 --> 01:19:11,427
Speaker 34: he's too light. We need someone quite heavy, heavy and

1522
01:19:11,667 --> 01:19:14,307
Speaker 34: and and you know, like a no new type of player.

1523
01:19:14,347 --> 01:19:16,667
Speaker 34: We still haven't found that. And then the forwards. Yea,

1524
01:19:16,827 --> 01:19:19,307
Speaker 34: Artie's great, like, don't get me wrong, He's done wonders

1525
01:19:19,307 --> 01:19:23,267
Speaker 34: for us, but we need someone out else to sort

1526
01:19:23,307 --> 01:19:25,467
Speaker 34: of have that sort of back up as well that

1527
01:19:25,627 --> 01:19:29,067
Speaker 34: can accommodate Artie's presence, and we don't have that. And

1528
01:19:29,827 --> 01:19:33,227
Speaker 34: you know, Argentina showed us up to be honest, like

1529
01:19:33,267 --> 01:19:35,267
Speaker 34: that previous caller said, we could have easily lost those

1530
01:19:35,307 --> 01:19:36,987
Speaker 34: three tests could have been three tests in a row.

1531
01:19:37,267 --> 01:19:39,707
Speaker 34: We could have we we could have lost by now.

1532
01:19:39,907 --> 01:19:42,547
Speaker 34: You know, we were very fortunate that we've got those

1533
01:19:42,627 --> 01:19:46,747
Speaker 34: victories over England, but Argentinas, come on, you know they're

1534
01:19:46,747 --> 01:19:49,947
Speaker 34: not even Yeah, okay, you know why of all of

1535
01:19:49,987 --> 01:19:52,827
Speaker 34: all teams we lost to Argentina, I don't know. And

1536
01:19:52,907 --> 01:19:54,867
Speaker 34: you know it was public's choice at the end of

1537
01:19:54,907 --> 01:19:56,867
Speaker 34: the day. You look, we got to you know, read

1538
01:19:56,907 --> 01:19:59,507
Speaker 34: what we so we we wanted Razor and now we

1539
01:19:59,667 --> 01:20:01,707
Speaker 34: just got to I guess by time. Now, yeah, I

1540
01:20:01,707 --> 01:20:05,827
Speaker 34: think he's on a long term contract. Just yes, look,

1541
01:20:06,507 --> 01:20:08,507
Speaker 34: we's got to have faith in him. But look, we

1542
01:20:08,547 --> 01:20:10,587
Speaker 34: didn't expect that that came out of nowhere. To be honest,

1543
01:20:10,587 --> 01:20:11,587
Speaker 34: they had lost to Argentina.

1544
01:20:11,987 --> 01:20:13,507
Speaker 2: I agree on one.

1545
01:20:13,187 --> 01:20:15,387
Speaker 34: Or one or two losses against England. Yeah, okay, we

1546
01:20:15,427 --> 01:20:19,547
Speaker 34: could have fathom that. But losing Argentina, that's that's non negotiable.

1547
01:20:19,787 --> 01:20:20,987
Speaker 34: That that's unheard of.

1548
01:20:21,427 --> 01:20:23,147
Speaker 2: That point you make about the number six, about the

1549
01:20:23,227 --> 01:20:25,787
Speaker 2: Jerome kin or kind of player. I think they hoped

1550
01:20:25,827 --> 01:20:28,427
Speaker 2: and it may still be. Are they that summer Penny

1551
01:20:28,427 --> 01:20:31,987
Speaker 2: Female is that guy, but he seems to have fallen

1552
01:20:32,027 --> 01:20:35,547
Speaker 2: out of favor. He wasn't even on the reserve bench

1553
01:20:35,947 --> 01:20:38,227
Speaker 2: last night. They've gone with Wallace a Titi instead. And

1554
01:20:38,507 --> 01:20:40,667
Speaker 2: I think Female and that enforce a role for the

1555
01:20:40,747 --> 01:20:44,067
Speaker 2: Chiefs has on many occasions proven that he can be

1556
01:20:44,147 --> 01:20:47,947
Speaker 2: that intimidating force. I just don't know why. You know,

1557
01:20:48,347 --> 01:20:50,867
Speaker 2: he may come again, but I think they hoped and

1558
01:20:50,907 --> 01:20:54,267
Speaker 2: he may still be that bloke for them.

1559
01:20:54,307 --> 01:20:54,867
Speaker 14: Well I hope.

1560
01:20:54,867 --> 01:20:57,347
Speaker 34: So look, look, you just got to give him time,

1561
01:20:57,387 --> 01:20:58,987
Speaker 34: don't you. You know, you've got to give him game time.

1562
01:20:59,427 --> 01:20:59,627
Speaker 14: Yep.

1563
01:20:59,947 --> 01:21:02,387
Speaker 34: You know, these sort of players are confidence players and

1564
01:21:02,667 --> 01:21:04,627
Speaker 34: if they're sort of left out in limbo. You know,

1565
01:21:04,667 --> 01:21:06,307
Speaker 34: you know what happened to the east of Taller Market

1566
01:21:06,467 --> 01:21:08,947
Speaker 34: back in the yester years. He was a phenomenal sort

1567
01:21:08,947 --> 01:21:10,947
Speaker 34: of threat and then you know, because they didn't play him,

1568
01:21:10,947 --> 01:21:13,267
Speaker 34: he lost a lot of confidence and before you know what,

1569
01:21:13,267 --> 01:21:15,267
Speaker 34: he was on the outer and I hope that's not

1570
01:21:15,307 --> 01:21:17,427
Speaker 34: going to happen to that player that you just mentioned.

1571
01:21:17,467 --> 01:21:19,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hope so too. Ricardo, good to chat

1572
01:21:19,707 --> 01:21:22,067
Speaker 2: to you, mate. Yeah, Summer Penny Finale, I think he's

1573
01:21:22,147 --> 01:21:26,147
Speaker 2: got tremendous potential he for the Chiefs. When I've watched

1574
01:21:26,227 --> 01:21:28,867
Speaker 2: him at his best for the Chiefs, he is frightening

1575
01:21:29,427 --> 01:21:32,507
Speaker 2: the way he flies out and times has HiT's on

1576
01:21:32,587 --> 01:21:36,507
Speaker 2: the first five. Yeah, I'm not sure what's happened there,

1577
01:21:36,547 --> 01:21:38,867
Speaker 2: But like you can't give everybody a game Ethan Blackadder

1578
01:21:38,947 --> 01:21:42,387
Speaker 2: last night was the number six. Obviously, Papal Savia think

1579
01:21:42,427 --> 01:21:44,667
Speaker 2: Savia obviously plays. Somebody's made the point. We'll play three

1580
01:21:44,707 --> 01:21:47,387
Speaker 2: number sevens and the Lucy's interesting point. Seven to two

1581
01:21:47,387 --> 01:21:51,587
Speaker 2: News talks.

1582
01:21:49,667 --> 01:21:52,307
Speaker 1: The school from the track fields and the Court on

1583
01:21:52,427 --> 01:21:56,827
Speaker 1: your home of Sport Weekends for it with Jason Vine Talks.

1584
01:21:56,707 --> 01:21:58,627
Speaker 2: B one fifty six. Already, what was going to our

1585
01:21:58,667 --> 01:22:00,747
Speaker 2: talking rugby? I think we tried to solve a few

1586
01:22:00,747 --> 01:22:03,067
Speaker 2: problems there. Thank you for all your calls and texts,

1587
01:22:03,827 --> 01:22:07,107
Speaker 2: most of which, in fact almost entirely all of them

1588
01:22:07,147 --> 01:22:10,547
Speaker 2: were making good points, So thank you. After two we're

1589
01:22:10,547 --> 01:22:12,427
Speaker 2: going to flip our focus back to the Olympic Games.

1590
01:22:12,507 --> 01:22:15,867
Speaker 2: Lydia Co gold medalist and the golf is on the

1591
01:22:15,867 --> 01:22:18,187
Speaker 2: show with us and James mconey, who has been doing

1592
01:22:18,227 --> 01:22:22,187
Speaker 2: some absolutely incredible work over there, including meeting Tony Hawk,

1593
01:22:22,987 --> 01:22:26,107
Speaker 2: the goat of skateboarding during the week and Hope by

1594
01:22:26,147 --> 01:22:28,987
Speaker 2: pul how our best darts plan ahead of the Hamilton

1595
01:22:29,067 --> 01:22:30,027
Speaker 2: Darts Masters next week.

1596
01:22:30,147 --> 01:22:34,347
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1597
01:22:35,027 --> 01:22:39,987
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1598
01:22:40,067 --> 01:22:43,827
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

1599
01:22:44,307 --> 01:22:44,907
Speaker 1: News Talks.

1600
01:22:44,947 --> 01:22:49,347
Speaker 2: It'd be two o seven, Hello and welcome in all.

1601
01:22:49,427 --> 01:22:51,507
Speaker 2: Welcome back as the case may be. I'm Jason Pyne,

1602
01:22:51,547 --> 01:22:54,347
Speaker 2: Adam McDonald here too. We're with Hettel three and then

1603
01:22:54,387 --> 01:22:56,107
Speaker 2: Tim Beverige is going to take over He came in

1604
01:22:56,147 --> 01:22:58,907
Speaker 2: before and said you want to carry on and talk

1605
01:22:58,987 --> 01:23:02,787
Speaker 2: more sport, I said no, the listeners would riot Tim

1606
01:23:02,907 --> 01:23:06,507
Speaker 2: if you weren't here for the weekend collective at three.

1607
01:23:06,667 --> 01:23:08,827
Speaker 2: So we'll be here till three and then we'll pass

1608
01:23:08,867 --> 01:23:11,027
Speaker 2: it over as we normally do. Lydia Co's on the

1609
01:23:11,067 --> 01:23:13,867
Speaker 2: show on a sec. James mcconey out of Paris as well.

1610
01:23:13,867 --> 01:23:15,307
Speaker 2: We didn't get to the last hour because of the

1611
01:23:15,307 --> 01:23:19,747
Speaker 2: all Blacks chat and Hope I Pooha from well from darts,

1612
01:23:20,227 --> 01:23:25,187
Speaker 2: Shall we say our number one darts player, Hamilton Darts

1613
01:23:25,227 --> 01:23:27,507
Speaker 2: Masters next weekend. We've got a double pass to give

1614
01:23:27,507 --> 01:23:30,707
Speaker 2: away to Friday night's action in and around our chat

1615
01:23:30,747 --> 01:23:33,627
Speaker 2: with Hope I Pooh. You can continue to send you

1616
01:23:33,707 --> 01:23:36,107
Speaker 2: text we'd love to read them, and we'll read out

1617
01:23:36,107 --> 01:23:37,747
Speaker 2: a few too. This one from Billy's great as for

1618
01:23:37,787 --> 01:23:40,347
Speaker 2: the Olympics, it was quite the eventful night in our house,

1619
01:23:40,347 --> 01:23:42,907
Speaker 2: says Billy. We had sick kids all around, dealing with

1620
01:23:42,947 --> 01:23:46,907
Speaker 2: tubby bugs, buckets at the ready, a real circus. But

1621
01:23:46,987 --> 01:23:49,147
Speaker 2: amidst all the chaos, we were jumping up and down,

1622
01:23:49,227 --> 01:23:52,267
Speaker 2: glued to the screen, cheering on the incredible performances of

1623
01:23:52,307 --> 01:23:55,547
Speaker 2: Lisa Carrington, Lydia Coe and the phenomenal high jump. What

1624
01:23:55,627 --> 01:23:58,507
Speaker 2: a fantastic effort from our Kiwi athletes. Despite being completely

1625
01:23:58,547 --> 01:24:01,507
Speaker 2: wiped out, both kids and parents were left smiling. It

1626
01:24:01,587 --> 01:24:04,067
Speaker 2: certainly made the All Blacks loss a little easier to bear.

1627
01:24:04,067 --> 01:24:06,227
Speaker 2: Good on you, Billy hope everybody's feeling a lot better.

1628
01:24:07,867 --> 01:24:10,027
Speaker 2: Eight minutes past two. As we always do it around

1629
01:24:10,027 --> 01:24:11,307
Speaker 2: about this time, we like to keep you up to

1630
01:24:11,347 --> 01:24:13,187
Speaker 2: date with the stuff you may have missed, and there's

1631
01:24:13,227 --> 01:24:16,347
Speaker 2: so much going on at the Olympics we can't clearly

1632
01:24:16,387 --> 01:24:18,827
Speaker 2: can't cover everything, but Annie McDonald's picked out a few

1633
01:24:18,827 --> 01:24:23,067
Speaker 2: things which he thinks are particularly noteworthy. A new Olympic

1634
01:24:23,147 --> 01:24:27,387
Speaker 2: record and the means marathon courtesy of Ethiopian tamar At Tola.

1635
01:24:27,667 --> 01:24:32,427
Speaker 31: Chamirat Toller will be the chost to beat Theopia today,

1636
01:24:33,067 --> 01:24:38,107
Speaker 31: an absolutely magnificent victory. He's the Olympic champion and he

1637
01:24:38,147 --> 01:24:41,467
Speaker 31: breaks the Olympic record as well. He adds his name

1638
01:24:41,547 --> 01:24:45,267
Speaker 31: to a rich list of champions taller with the performance

1639
01:24:45,307 --> 01:24:46,547
Speaker 31: of a lifetime.

1640
01:24:46,427 --> 01:24:50,307
Speaker 2: And a record an Olympic record in the fifteen hundred

1641
01:24:50,387 --> 01:24:54,667
Speaker 2: meters from Kenyan legend Faith kip Yegon leading from.

1642
01:24:54,467 --> 01:24:58,227
Speaker 31: The front, leading by example, take a moment to save

1643
01:24:58,307 --> 01:24:59,107
Speaker 31: for these images.

1644
01:24:59,467 --> 01:25:01,467
Speaker 2: We've never seen anybody.

1645
01:25:00,987 --> 01:25:04,307
Speaker 31: Win three in a row, and now we have faith.

1646
01:25:04,387 --> 01:25:07,987
Speaker 2: Jim Yah god put in new Olympic big record was.

1647
01:25:08,027 --> 01:25:12,427
Speaker 3: Not to be denied, the crowning moment of a glittering career.

1648
01:25:13,027 --> 01:25:17,227
Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff. The United States meantime have shocked absolutely nobody

1649
01:25:17,747 --> 01:25:19,507
Speaker 2: and won gold in the means basketball.

1650
01:25:19,587 --> 01:25:21,947
Speaker 25: Curry with it behind the back. He'll pull up with

1651
01:25:22,027 --> 01:25:23,267
Speaker 25: two hands in his face.

1652
01:25:23,307 --> 01:25:26,147
Speaker 6: Off, stop it, stop it.

1653
01:25:27,947 --> 01:25:29,267
Speaker 9: You have got to be kidding me.

1654
01:25:29,347 --> 01:25:35,667
Speaker 5: Stiff Curry, another May three and that should do it.

1655
01:25:36,507 --> 01:25:39,987
Speaker 25: Stiff Curry, you are simply special.

1656
01:25:40,667 --> 01:25:48,067
Speaker 2: And our first b boy gold medalist has revealed himself

1657
01:25:48,107 --> 01:25:50,467
Speaker 2: in the new sport of breaking.

1658
01:25:51,187 --> 01:25:56,027
Speaker 35: We are watching a dance with Olympic destiny. Will it

1659
01:25:56,067 --> 01:26:00,867
Speaker 35: be Phil Wizard and the gold for Canada or will

1660
01:26:00,907 --> 01:26:06,067
Speaker 35: it be Danny Dan and an Olympic title for France?

1661
01:26:06,787 --> 01:26:10,387
Speaker 6: Around tigs to fill Wizard and he is the first

1662
01:26:10,787 --> 01:26:11,827
Speaker 6: be by with a.

1663
01:26:11,947 --> 01:26:15,947
Speaker 1: Gold metal when it's down to the line. You made

1664
01:26:15,947 --> 01:26:16,587
Speaker 1: a call on.

1665
01:26:18,707 --> 01:26:21,827
Speaker 9: Weekend Sports with Jason Hine, News Talk zeb.

1666
01:26:22,227 --> 01:26:26,547
Speaker 25: Lydia Coe, the teenage sensation who has been a household

1667
01:26:26,627 --> 01:26:29,627
Speaker 25: name here in New Zealand for well over a decade.

1668
01:26:30,187 --> 01:26:31,627
Speaker 25: There's two puts here for gold.

1669
01:26:32,387 --> 01:26:33,227
Speaker 9: The boy would she love?

1670
01:26:33,267 --> 01:26:39,587
Speaker 5: A Birdie Co putts through and it's down. A golden

1671
01:26:39,747 --> 01:26:45,987
Speaker 5: glow for lydia com runner up in Rio, two back

1672
01:26:46,027 --> 01:26:50,067
Speaker 5: in Tokyo and at top of the podium in Paris.

1673
01:26:50,827 --> 01:26:59,747
Speaker 5: The fairy tale is complete. Lydia Co is an Olympic champion.

1674
01:26:59,947 --> 01:27:02,627
Speaker 2: Indeed, she is Lydia Coe's one Olympic gold and the

1675
01:27:02,627 --> 01:27:06,747
Speaker 2: women's golf at LA Golf National simultaneous Lisa kurring entry

1676
01:27:06,867 --> 01:27:10,147
Speaker 2: into the LPGA's Hall of Fame. She fired at one

1677
01:27:10,227 --> 01:27:12,947
Speaker 2: under past seventy one in her final round, sinking that

1678
01:27:13,027 --> 01:27:16,187
Speaker 2: bertie on the eighteenth to finish ten under overall for

1679
01:27:16,267 --> 01:27:19,627
Speaker 2: a two shot winner. Completes, of course, the trifecta of medals.

1680
01:27:20,027 --> 01:27:24,387
Speaker 2: After lydia Co won silver in Rio and bronze in Tokyo.

1681
01:27:24,787 --> 01:27:29,187
Speaker 2: Lydia Co's with us with a gold medal around her neck. Congratulations,

1682
01:27:29,427 --> 01:27:31,227
Speaker 2: Lydia How do you reflect on your day?

1683
01:27:32,467 --> 01:27:35,107
Speaker 36: Yeah, you know, I think I stayed really patient today.

1684
01:27:35,747 --> 01:27:37,867
Speaker 36: I was nervous, and I knew going into the day

1685
01:27:37,907 --> 01:27:40,387
Speaker 36: that I was going to be nervous, but I stuck

1686
01:27:40,427 --> 01:27:43,147
Speaker 36: to the same routines as any other day and tried

1687
01:27:43,147 --> 01:27:45,507
Speaker 36: to take a lot of deep breaths. And I've been

1688
01:27:45,587 --> 01:27:48,867
Speaker 36: doing a lot of good work with my coaches, and

1689
01:27:49,667 --> 01:27:55,387
Speaker 36: I felt like all those training and all those moments

1690
01:27:55,467 --> 01:28:01,107
Speaker 36: were were you know, I guess working, and like I

1691
01:28:01,227 --> 01:28:04,307
Speaker 36: was able to prove to myself that I could do

1692
01:28:04,387 --> 01:28:08,227
Speaker 36: it for this moment. So it's honestly so cool that all,

1693
01:28:08,427 --> 01:28:10,747
Speaker 36: you know, all of the hard were not only just

1694
01:28:10,747 --> 01:28:13,827
Speaker 36: from myself but from my team is like peed off

1695
01:28:13,827 --> 01:28:16,667
Speaker 36: and honestly paid off at the biggest event in my

1696
01:28:16,747 --> 01:28:17,507
Speaker 36: hometoire line.

1697
01:28:17,627 --> 01:28:21,867
Speaker 2: Indeed, Well, you had that tricky moment on eighteen yet

1698
01:28:21,907 --> 01:28:24,907
Speaker 2: to get it over the water, you know, with not

1699
01:28:25,067 --> 01:28:27,267
Speaker 2: much room to play with and certainly not much room

1700
01:28:27,267 --> 01:28:29,187
Speaker 2: on the scoreboard. What was your mental process as you

1701
01:28:29,307 --> 01:28:32,267
Speaker 2: as you played your approach to the eighteenth green? Yeah,

1702
01:28:32,627 --> 01:28:32,987
Speaker 2: you know, I.

1703
01:28:32,947 --> 01:28:36,667
Speaker 36: Heard it wasn't the best contact off the T shirt,

1704
01:28:36,707 --> 01:28:38,907
Speaker 36: but I knew being at the bell way it was crucial,

1705
01:28:39,107 --> 01:28:43,707
Speaker 36: and you know, I worked through the numbers patiently with

1706
01:28:44,347 --> 01:28:47,907
Speaker 36: my Katie Paul and having that wed shirt was effing

1707
01:28:48,107 --> 01:28:50,027
Speaker 36: a nice way to kind of approach the Green.

1708
01:28:50,227 --> 01:28:52,507
Speaker 34: But I didn't want it to be greedy.

1709
01:28:52,667 --> 01:28:57,867
Speaker 36: But at the same time, just like focus focus on

1710
01:28:57,987 --> 01:29:00,067
Speaker 36: what I've got to do, and just know that it's

1711
01:29:00,107 --> 01:29:03,027
Speaker 36: never over until the end, So just put one hundred

1712
01:29:03,027 --> 01:29:05,307
Speaker 36: percent effort in until that board drops.

1713
01:29:05,627 --> 01:29:07,667
Speaker 2: And going back to to the thirteenth, you had that

1714
01:29:07,707 --> 01:29:09,987
Speaker 2: double bogie, which which sets you back a little bit.

1715
01:29:10,227 --> 01:29:12,227
Speaker 2: How did you recover from that? What was the mental

1716
01:29:12,267 --> 01:29:13,027
Speaker 2: process behind that?

1717
01:29:14,507 --> 01:29:17,587
Speaker 36: Yeah, you know, I actually didn't hit like a bad

1718
01:29:17,627 --> 01:29:20,267
Speaker 36: shot for it to cool in the water, So I

1719
01:29:20,307 --> 01:29:23,467
Speaker 36: think in ways like because I knew obviously I made

1720
01:29:24,107 --> 01:29:27,547
Speaker 36: ne mistic. I didn't like take it to the head

1721
01:29:27,787 --> 01:29:31,507
Speaker 36: right away, and you know, with fourteen being a part

1722
01:29:31,547 --> 01:29:36,907
Speaker 36: of five, I knew that it was like where I

1723
01:29:36,907 --> 01:29:38,907
Speaker 36: could potentially make a broody and kind of come back

1724
01:29:38,907 --> 01:29:42,267
Speaker 36: and find my momentum again. And even though I didn't,

1725
01:29:42,347 --> 01:29:45,827
Speaker 36: I just did patient and just know that there's still

1726
01:29:45,907 --> 01:29:48,347
Speaker 36: holes left and just got to focus on what's in

1727
01:29:48,387 --> 01:29:50,747
Speaker 36: front of me and not what happened, not what has

1728
01:29:50,787 --> 01:29:51,507
Speaker 36: already happened.

1729
01:29:51,587 --> 01:29:51,787
Speaker 13: Yeah.

1730
01:29:51,827 --> 01:29:55,227
Speaker 2: I saw a really cool quote from you in one

1731
01:29:55,267 --> 01:29:58,067
Speaker 2: of your post round interviews when you talked about a

1732
01:29:58,147 --> 01:30:01,507
Speaker 2: quote you'd heard from American gymnast Simone Biles about it

1733
01:30:01,627 --> 01:30:04,947
Speaker 2: being up to you to write your own conclusion, the

1734
01:30:04,987 --> 01:30:09,387
Speaker 2: own conclusion to story. Is that a quote that's kind

1735
01:30:09,387 --> 01:30:10,827
Speaker 2: of set in your mind this whole time.

1736
01:30:12,427 --> 01:30:15,587
Speaker 36: Yeah, I saw her documentary and it said and she said,

1737
01:30:15,667 --> 01:30:18,147
Speaker 36: I get to write my own ending, and that's what

1738
01:30:18,187 --> 01:30:21,267
Speaker 36: I tried to embrace today. I didn't want, you know,

1739
01:30:21,347 --> 01:30:24,827
Speaker 36: somebody else playing bad or good to dictate how I

1740
01:30:24,867 --> 01:30:27,707
Speaker 36: was approaching it. So I just wanted to focus on

1741
01:30:27,827 --> 01:30:30,147
Speaker 36: me and made sure that I got the job done.

1742
01:30:30,427 --> 01:30:33,107
Speaker 2: As you're playing the funnel round for the or any around,

1743
01:30:33,347 --> 01:30:35,547
Speaker 2: are you aware of the scoreboard as you're going around?

1744
01:30:35,547 --> 01:30:39,107
Speaker 2: Were you aware of how close those behind you were? Today?

1745
01:30:40,067 --> 01:30:40,307
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1746
01:30:40,587 --> 01:30:42,667
Speaker 36: I mean there's a lot of scoreboards, so it's hard

1747
01:30:42,707 --> 01:30:47,027
Speaker 36: to like miss it. So I knew what the situation was.

1748
01:30:47,187 --> 01:30:51,067
Speaker 36: So I think hitting quality iron shots. I'm fifteen and sixteen,

1749
01:30:51,107 --> 01:30:53,587
Speaker 36: I knew was going to be the most important factors

1750
01:30:53,667 --> 01:30:55,907
Speaker 36: where you know, I was going to take like big

1751
01:30:56,027 --> 01:30:59,227
Speaker 36: numbers out of the way. So and you know, I

1752
01:30:59,267 --> 01:31:01,947
Speaker 36: had I hold two good three footos for Parr on

1753
01:31:02,027 --> 01:31:05,747
Speaker 36: those two holes to kind of you know, reset myself

1754
01:31:05,787 --> 01:31:08,947
Speaker 36: and get ready for seventeen and eighteen. So yeah, I

1755
01:31:08,947 --> 01:31:11,667
Speaker 36: would have preferred a little bit more of a cushion

1756
01:31:11,747 --> 01:31:15,987
Speaker 36: going down the last, but no eighteen being a part five,

1757
01:31:16,867 --> 01:31:18,907
Speaker 36: I wanted to just stick to my game plan and

1758
01:31:20,227 --> 01:31:22,187
Speaker 36: you know, just take it one shot at a time

1759
01:31:22,267 --> 01:31:24,867
Speaker 36: and to better finish with the birdie. It really couldn't

1760
01:31:24,867 --> 01:31:25,587
Speaker 36: have been any better.

1761
01:31:25,907 --> 01:31:28,267
Speaker 2: So a third Olympic medal for you now one of

1762
01:31:28,307 --> 01:31:31,667
Speaker 2: each color of course, silver, Rio, bronze, Tokyo, now gold

1763
01:31:31,707 --> 01:31:33,747
Speaker 2: here in Paris. Can you can you put into context

1764
01:31:33,747 --> 01:31:35,827
Speaker 2: with everything else you have achieved in your golf in

1765
01:31:35,907 --> 01:31:37,987
Speaker 2: Korea where your Olympic medals sit.

1766
01:31:39,787 --> 01:31:42,347
Speaker 36: Yeah, you know, it means a lot, you know, to

1767
01:31:42,467 --> 01:31:44,587
Speaker 36: be able to represent museum and to do it at

1768
01:31:44,587 --> 01:31:48,187
Speaker 36: the Olympics three times. I'm very proud to call myself

1769
01:31:48,187 --> 01:31:51,267
Speaker 36: a three time Olympian and now a three time Olympic

1770
01:31:51,307 --> 01:31:57,107
Speaker 36: medalists and to collect both all all colors of the

1771
01:31:57,627 --> 01:32:01,307
Speaker 36: of the medal. It's it's on a c cereal. And yeah,

1772
01:32:01,307 --> 01:32:03,787
Speaker 36: you know, I I think when I lost in the

1773
01:32:03,787 --> 01:32:08,747
Speaker 36: playoff in Tokyo, I wish I had you know, one silver,

1774
01:32:09,227 --> 01:32:12,907
Speaker 36: But you know, maybe it was a golfing god's way

1775
01:32:12,947 --> 01:32:15,547
Speaker 36: of saying, hey, get ready for gold in Paris.

1776
01:32:16,347 --> 01:32:20,067
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, whoever was making these decisions certainly got it

1777
01:32:20,147 --> 01:32:23,107
Speaker 2: right today and just to finish. In the context of

1778
01:32:23,227 --> 01:32:26,547
Speaker 2: everything you've done as a golfer across your pro career,

1779
01:32:26,587 --> 01:32:28,107
Speaker 2: where does this rank, this gold medal?

1780
01:32:29,267 --> 01:32:32,627
Speaker 36: I think every win is special in its own way.

1781
01:32:32,707 --> 01:32:36,787
Speaker 36: You know, my bronze and silver medal, they are just

1782
01:32:36,827 --> 01:32:38,827
Speaker 36: as up there as any of my other wins, so

1783
01:32:38,867 --> 01:32:41,187
Speaker 36: it's kind of hard to compare that. But for now,

1784
01:32:41,267 --> 01:32:43,547
Speaker 36: this is you know, it feels like the biggest moment

1785
01:32:43,587 --> 01:32:44,147
Speaker 36: in my career.

1786
01:32:44,347 --> 01:32:46,907
Speaker 2: Wonderful. Thank you for joining us, Lydia, really appreciate it

1787
01:32:46,947 --> 01:32:51,067
Speaker 2: and you're packed schedule. Lydia Coe gold medalist in the

1788
01:32:51,067 --> 01:32:54,107
Speaker 2: women's golfer gold of silver and a bronze for her now.

1789
01:32:54,667 --> 01:32:56,427
Speaker 2: Just staying with the Olympics for a second. If there

1790
01:32:56,467 --> 01:32:59,227
Speaker 2: was any doubt about who the greatest of all time

1791
01:32:59,347 --> 01:33:01,787
Speaker 2: in a kayakers, well that was well and truly put

1792
01:33:01,827 --> 01:33:02,667
Speaker 2: to bed last night.

1793
01:33:02,947 --> 01:33:07,067
Speaker 3: Charrington now has her bow in front, She's on ahead

1794
01:33:07,307 --> 01:33:10,147
Speaker 3: of Cheapish of Hungary. Oh, it's gonna be a fight

1795
01:33:10,227 --> 01:33:13,427
Speaker 3: to the finish between New Zealand and Hungary. The rest

1796
01:33:13,427 --> 01:33:17,187
Speaker 3: have been left behind. Can Lisa Carrington make it eight

1797
01:33:17,467 --> 01:33:18,307
Speaker 3: gold medals?

1798
01:33:18,867 --> 01:33:21,747
Speaker 2: Carrington, she's putting the stroke right up.

1799
01:33:22,067 --> 01:33:25,427
Speaker 3: She's half a boat length ahead of Cheapish. She's got

1800
01:33:25,427 --> 01:33:31,467
Speaker 3: the race face on the red Sonnies. It's Carrington Charrington coming.

1801
01:33:31,147 --> 01:33:32,107
Speaker 4: Down to the line.

1802
01:33:32,587 --> 01:33:37,147
Speaker 3: It is gonna be gold for New Zealand's Lisa Carrington.

1803
01:33:37,587 --> 01:33:41,507
Speaker 3: It is Paris perfection for Lisa Carrington.

1804
01:33:41,627 --> 01:33:44,987
Speaker 2: Here Dame Lisa Carrington completing a second successive hat trick

1805
01:33:45,067 --> 01:33:47,667
Speaker 2: of gold medals, paddling to victory there in the K

1806
01:33:47,787 --> 01:33:50,307
Speaker 2: one five hundred last night, she had to overhaul silver

1807
01:33:50,347 --> 01:33:53,867
Speaker 2: medalist Hungarian Tamara Cheapish, who led it halfway mark, but

1808
01:33:53,867 --> 01:33:57,107
Speaker 2: the key we eventually stopped the clock in Olympic record

1809
01:33:57,187 --> 01:34:00,547
Speaker 2: time of one minute forty seven point three six. So

1810
01:34:00,907 --> 01:34:04,187
Speaker 2: what does an eighth Olympic medal and a third of

1811
01:34:04,227 --> 01:34:06,107
Speaker 2: these games mean to Lisa Carrington.

1812
01:34:07,387 --> 01:34:12,267
Speaker 37: Yeah, it's incredible, It's it probably means I mean it

1813
01:34:12,307 --> 01:34:15,427
Speaker 37: means a lot. I think after achieving what we did

1814
01:34:15,467 --> 01:34:19,307
Speaker 37: in the K four, in the K two, and then

1815
01:34:19,467 --> 01:34:21,987
Speaker 37: you know, making an individual race like this a team

1816
01:34:22,027 --> 01:34:25,947
Speaker 37: event with my three teammates on the sidelines cheering me on,

1817
01:34:27,667 --> 01:34:31,107
Speaker 37: I mean, it's just special to have even I think

1818
01:34:31,147 --> 01:34:33,027
Speaker 37: that I could have tried to achieve this.

1819
01:34:34,147 --> 01:34:36,667
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean this one's really special.

1820
01:34:36,787 --> 01:34:39,707
Speaker 2: What was going through Lisa Carrington's mind at the two

1821
01:34:39,747 --> 01:34:41,947
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen meter mark when she was in a

1822
01:34:41,987 --> 01:34:43,867
Speaker 2: battle with Cheapish for the gold.

1823
01:34:44,147 --> 01:34:45,387
Speaker 4: Oh, I just knew exactly.

1824
01:34:46,347 --> 01:34:48,507
Speaker 37: I think it's just sticking to my own game plan

1825
01:34:48,587 --> 01:34:52,827
Speaker 37: and my own strategy. And I knew, you know, through

1826
01:34:52,867 --> 01:34:55,027
Speaker 37: the through the week that she was performing really well

1827
01:34:55,067 --> 01:34:57,307
Speaker 37: in her team event. So you kind of get an

1828
01:34:57,347 --> 01:34:59,787
Speaker 37: understanding of how the field might be and to not

1829
01:34:59,827 --> 01:35:04,227
Speaker 37: panic when someone who is not always there turns up,

1830
01:35:04,347 --> 01:35:06,747
Speaker 37: or who should I expect at the two fifty or

1831
01:35:07,267 --> 01:35:09,547
Speaker 37: but I was prepared to you know, you've got to

1832
01:35:09,547 --> 01:35:09,947
Speaker 37: go out there.

1833
01:35:09,947 --> 01:35:12,587
Speaker 4: It's you want a good race, you want to fight,

1834
01:35:12,787 --> 01:35:14,827
Speaker 4: you want to, you know, really earn it.

1835
01:35:14,907 --> 01:35:18,147
Speaker 37: So I'm so stoked that I could meet that fight

1836
01:35:18,227 --> 01:35:21,707
Speaker 37: with tomorrow today and just stick to how I know

1837
01:35:21,747 --> 01:35:25,667
Speaker 37: how to peddle and you know, as boring as anything,

1838
01:35:25,747 --> 01:35:28,147
Speaker 37: but just come back to some good technical cues and

1839
01:35:28,187 --> 01:35:29,987
Speaker 37: how to and lean on my training.

1840
01:35:30,267 --> 01:35:32,947
Speaker 2: And when did Dame Lisa know that she'd won.

1841
01:35:35,067 --> 01:35:39,107
Speaker 37: I don't know, maybe like I never maybe in the

1842
01:35:39,147 --> 01:35:41,547
Speaker 37: last fifty or twenty five, I don't know.

1843
01:35:41,547 --> 01:35:42,987
Speaker 4: Actually I couldn't actually see tomorrow.

1844
01:35:43,067 --> 01:35:46,147
Speaker 37: She was a few lanes over from me, and I

1845
01:35:46,187 --> 01:35:51,467
Speaker 37: think it's you know, you've actually got the camera with

1846
01:35:51,547 --> 01:35:54,707
Speaker 37: the car driving along the side, so you could think

1847
01:35:54,747 --> 01:35:57,747
Speaker 37: that that was a person as well. But yeah, I

1848
01:35:57,747 --> 01:35:59,427
Speaker 37: mean it's just trying to say my own lane. And

1849
01:35:59,467 --> 01:36:01,667
Speaker 37: I just knew that the last kind of one hundred

1850
01:36:01,707 --> 01:36:03,627
Speaker 37: meters or even one fifty was going to come down

1851
01:36:03,667 --> 01:36:08,067
Speaker 37: to a lot of heart and just not just sticking

1852
01:36:08,067 --> 01:36:10,187
Speaker 37: to my technique.

1853
01:36:10,267 --> 01:36:13,867
Speaker 13: And to finish it, you must have thought she might

1854
01:36:13,867 --> 01:36:16,707
Speaker 13: come over the top of me the third time this year.

1855
01:36:17,747 --> 01:36:19,307
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's right.

1856
01:36:19,387 --> 01:36:23,827
Speaker 37: You never know anyone, right, like, because obviously we're all

1857
01:36:23,867 --> 01:36:26,107
Speaker 37: tying up, we're all getting tired, but it's really like

1858
01:36:26,147 --> 01:36:28,547
Speaker 37: who's got the strong back end as well, So some

1859
01:36:28,587 --> 01:36:30,467
Speaker 37: people might leave their back end a bit too late

1860
01:36:30,627 --> 01:36:33,627
Speaker 37: or they started too early and die. So absolutely I

1861
01:36:33,707 --> 01:36:38,747
Speaker 37: was under no kind of well, I didn't, I didn't not.

1862
01:36:38,907 --> 01:36:40,427
Speaker 37: I knew that I hadn't had it at the two

1863
01:36:40,467 --> 01:36:42,587
Speaker 37: fifty four hundred. I just had to keep going to

1864
01:36:42,627 --> 01:36:44,907
Speaker 37: the end, and yeah, I said to keep leaning on

1865
01:36:44,947 --> 01:36:45,827
Speaker 37: my fitness.

1866
01:36:45,507 --> 01:36:46,347
Speaker 4: In that part of the race.

1867
01:36:46,947 --> 01:36:51,947
Speaker 2: Dame Lisa Carrington eight gold medals, nine total, the goat

1868
01:36:52,267 --> 01:36:55,307
Speaker 2: without a shadow of a doubt to twenty one. When

1869
01:36:55,347 --> 01:36:57,707
Speaker 2: we come back. We're off to Paris. It's about twenty

1870
01:36:57,787 --> 01:37:01,067
Speaker 2: past four in the morning over there. But James McConney said, no, no,

1871
01:37:01,147 --> 01:37:03,627
Speaker 2: give me a call, so we will. James mcconey right

1872
01:37:03,627 --> 01:37:03,947
Speaker 2: after this.

1873
01:37:04,427 --> 01:37:05,547
Speaker 9: Don't get caught offside.

1874
01:37:05,707 --> 01:37:10,427
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1875
01:37:10,587 --> 01:37:14,707
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1876
01:37:14,827 --> 01:37:17,987
Speaker 2: Two twenty four on News Talks NB four twenty four

1877
01:37:17,987 --> 01:37:20,987
Speaker 2: in the morning in Paris. But James McCarney is up

1878
01:37:21,027 --> 01:37:25,667
Speaker 2: and about taking our call. Good the chat to your mate. Gee,

1879
01:37:25,667 --> 01:37:27,467
Speaker 2: I don't know where to start. You've been all over

1880
01:37:27,507 --> 01:37:29,667
Speaker 2: the place at the Olympics, but I get the I

1881
01:37:29,707 --> 01:37:31,507
Speaker 2: got a message from you to say you spent time

1882
01:37:31,547 --> 01:37:36,627
Speaker 2: with shot put silver medallist Maddie Wishy over there. How

1883
01:37:36,947 --> 01:37:39,387
Speaker 2: How was that? And I mean she's an absolute diamond,

1884
01:37:39,387 --> 01:37:39,787
Speaker 2: doesn't she.

1885
01:37:40,907 --> 01:37:41,827
Speaker 28: Oh, fantastic.

1886
01:37:41,867 --> 01:37:44,707
Speaker 38: Your whole family are just awesome and it was lovely

1887
01:37:44,747 --> 01:37:48,027
Speaker 38: to see them at New Zealand House there and Maddie

1888
01:37:48,067 --> 01:37:50,227
Speaker 38: has really sort of done it her way, you know,

1889
01:37:50,307 --> 01:37:53,987
Speaker 38: she didn't even realize that Dame Vale was a legend

1890
01:37:53,987 --> 01:37:57,667
Speaker 38: because she didn't really watch athletics that much on TV.

1891
01:37:58,187 --> 01:38:01,827
Speaker 38: So when she was starting to compete and she realized that, old,

1892
01:38:01,827 --> 01:38:04,907
Speaker 38: wait a second, I'm up against the goat. And and

1893
01:38:04,947 --> 01:38:07,187
Speaker 38: of course had a great relationship and ship with Val

1894
01:38:07,347 --> 01:38:10,627
Speaker 38: and there's nowhere there as big.

1895
01:38:11,187 --> 01:38:15,547
Speaker 28: But she through nineteen eighty six ninety.

1896
01:38:15,307 --> 01:38:17,907
Speaker 38: Meter is eighty six on a wet night, and she

1897
01:38:18,027 --> 01:38:19,747
Speaker 38: was saying that, you know, because she grew up in

1898
01:38:19,787 --> 01:38:23,147
Speaker 38: Auckland and trained out at why Tarkety there in west Auckland,

1899
01:38:23,627 --> 01:38:26,587
Speaker 38: she knew all about throwing in the wet, so she

1900
01:38:26,707 --> 01:38:32,267
Speaker 38: was she was well prepared and just an absolute delight.

1901
01:38:32,547 --> 01:38:34,947
Speaker 38: So happy for her, and I think that she will

1902
01:38:35,027 --> 01:38:39,987
Speaker 38: inspire a new generation because I mean, with all due respect,

1903
01:38:40,107 --> 01:38:43,027
Speaker 38: Vale was six ft five is six ft five, but

1904
01:38:43,107 --> 01:38:47,027
Speaker 38: Maddie Wishy is one of those you know, she's well

1905
01:38:47,107 --> 01:38:50,907
Speaker 38: under six foot and just really powerful and good at

1906
01:38:50,947 --> 01:38:54,067
Speaker 38: what she does and is quite relatable.

1907
01:38:54,907 --> 01:38:58,667
Speaker 2: It's incredible that the feedback we're getting a lot on

1908
01:38:58,707 --> 01:39:01,107
Speaker 2: the show today and yesterday and across the Olympics is

1909
01:39:01,187 --> 01:39:04,667
Speaker 2: just how humble our sporting champions are and just how

1910
01:39:04,707 --> 01:39:07,707
Speaker 2: proud we all are because they are that way. I

1911
01:39:07,707 --> 01:39:09,667
Speaker 2: think it's very key we isn't it. But I think

1912
01:39:09,667 --> 01:39:12,067
Speaker 2: of Maddie Wishy. I know, you know you've spoken to

1913
01:39:12,147 --> 01:39:15,027
Speaker 2: many of the others as well. Daniel Hillier, Van Butcher

1914
01:39:15,107 --> 01:39:18,387
Speaker 2: was so humble, you know, Hamish kur Lydia, Lisa Carrington,

1915
01:39:18,587 --> 01:39:21,187
Speaker 2: the list goes on. It's just isn't it great to

1916
01:39:21,227 --> 01:39:22,627
Speaker 2: be a kiwe at a time like this?

1917
01:39:24,027 --> 01:39:26,627
Speaker 38: Yeah, I find that our athletes are definitely the most

1918
01:39:26,627 --> 01:39:32,147
Speaker 38: approachable and even if they've they've been disappointed by their results,

1919
01:39:32,147 --> 01:39:35,587
Speaker 38: they're still willing to give their time in chat and

1920
01:39:35,587 --> 01:39:38,947
Speaker 38: they understand how important it is to you know, put

1921
01:39:38,947 --> 01:39:41,587
Speaker 38: this sport on the map, to be a good ambassador

1922
01:39:42,267 --> 01:39:45,547
Speaker 38: and to and to reach the people of New Zealand.

1923
01:39:45,587 --> 01:39:48,707
Speaker 38: That's that a lot of the athletes really talk about

1924
01:39:49,667 --> 01:39:52,867
Speaker 38: the next generation and hoping that they can inspire them

1925
01:39:52,867 --> 01:39:55,667
Speaker 38: and hope. Even David Lezi tonight, I was at the

1926
01:39:56,707 --> 01:39:59,947
Speaker 38: at the weightlifting and he came eighth and it was

1927
01:40:00,627 --> 01:40:02,627
Speaker 38: you know, he's the eighth strongest man in the world.

1928
01:40:02,667 --> 01:40:05,387
Speaker 38: He made me repeat that several times in the interview.

1929
01:40:05,547 --> 01:40:09,147
Speaker 38: I love it because I mean, that's amazing, isn't it.

1930
01:40:09,147 --> 01:40:09,347
Speaker 28: Really?

1931
01:40:09,467 --> 01:40:12,347
Speaker 38: Let's be honest, He's up there with in the big leagues,

1932
01:40:12,387 --> 01:40:16,867
Speaker 38: and some of these guys are absolute freak. So you know,

1933
01:40:17,307 --> 01:40:19,547
Speaker 38: he was making a point that he found a passion

1934
01:40:19,587 --> 01:40:21,827
Speaker 38: and just really went for it. And he hopes that

1935
01:40:21,827 --> 01:40:24,307
Speaker 38: that young kids will look at that, look at him,

1936
01:40:24,547 --> 01:40:28,867
Speaker 38: and and young Pacifica kids will try something different from

1937
01:40:28,907 --> 01:40:32,427
Speaker 38: maybe rugby or whatever it is. And he was talking

1938
01:40:32,427 --> 01:40:35,787
Speaker 38: about Koreas just finding a passion. You know, it doesn't

1939
01:40:36,147 --> 01:40:38,587
Speaker 38: necessarily have to be sport, but it can be. And

1940
01:40:39,067 --> 01:40:41,347
Speaker 38: I love that message and I thought that, you know,

1941
01:40:41,587 --> 01:40:43,467
Speaker 38: he's he really acquitted himself.

1942
01:40:43,227 --> 01:40:46,907
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, And Hamish Kerr said, you know that before

1943
01:40:47,227 --> 01:40:49,187
Speaker 2: or when he was growing up doing high jump, there

1944
01:40:49,187 --> 01:40:51,027
Speaker 2: was no one for him to look up to necessarily

1945
01:40:51,067 --> 01:40:53,187
Speaker 2: as that you know that that that person who had

1946
01:40:53,227 --> 01:40:55,307
Speaker 2: been there and done that, and now he becomes that

1947
01:40:55,427 --> 01:40:57,427
Speaker 2: for somebody else. You know, there'll be there'll be kids

1948
01:40:57,467 --> 01:40:59,947
Speaker 2: around the country this morning, you know, setting up sort

1949
01:40:59,947 --> 01:41:02,427
Speaker 2: of bars or maybe bits of rope or ribbon in

1950
01:41:02,467 --> 01:41:06,067
Speaker 2: their backyard and doing the Fosberry flop or whatever it

1951
01:41:06,147 --> 01:41:09,067
Speaker 2: might be to try and emulate him. Now, speaking of

1952
01:41:09,107 --> 01:41:14,427
Speaker 2: meeting people, Tony Hawk, you met Tony Hawk, the skateboard goat.

1953
01:41:15,827 --> 01:41:16,267
Speaker 28: I did.

1954
01:41:16,347 --> 01:41:21,547
Speaker 38: The goat was wandering around after the men's park skateboard final,

1955
01:41:21,667 --> 01:41:24,587
Speaker 38: and so was Snoop Dogg as well, by the way,

1956
01:41:24,627 --> 01:41:26,947
Speaker 38: but he had a lot of security around him. But

1957
01:41:27,267 --> 01:41:29,587
Speaker 38: Tony wandered past the mix on, which is just a

1958
01:41:29,587 --> 01:41:32,187
Speaker 38: little sort of pig pen where all the media sort

1959
01:41:32,187 --> 01:41:34,707
Speaker 38: of wait for athletes to come by, and I thought,

1960
01:41:35,067 --> 01:41:37,067
Speaker 38: I'll just ask him to say if I'll have a word,

1961
01:41:37,147 --> 01:41:40,027
Speaker 38: and he turned around. I said the words New Zealand

1962
01:41:40,107 --> 01:41:42,587
Speaker 38: and I think that pretty much got him over and

1963
01:41:43,547 --> 01:41:47,067
Speaker 38: he and obviously, you know, I locked eyes with him,

1964
01:41:47,547 --> 01:41:49,627
Speaker 38: and so that was something.

1965
01:41:50,307 --> 01:41:50,667
Speaker 28: But I.

1966
01:41:52,147 --> 01:41:56,147
Speaker 38: Actually think that he really is, you know, probably the

1967
01:41:56,227 --> 01:42:01,227
Speaker 38: most famous person I've interviewed, but not necessarily the most

1968
01:42:02,387 --> 01:42:06,227
Speaker 38: famous from this Olympics, because I interviewed the Australian break

1969
01:42:06,427 --> 01:42:11,427
Speaker 38: answer Who's gone viral Reygun, who had a very interesting routine,

1970
01:42:11,427 --> 01:42:15,267
Speaker 38: shall we say, and and that was that's that's something

1971
01:42:15,307 --> 01:42:18,227
Speaker 38: that has ended up going around the world. But also

1972
01:42:18,307 --> 01:42:22,467
Speaker 38: the New Zealanders can't believe that she won the Oceanian chaps.

1973
01:42:25,307 --> 01:42:27,187
Speaker 2: Did you interview her? Have you have you had a

1974
01:42:27,227 --> 01:42:30,267
Speaker 2: chet to Reygun? She is ultra famous now.

1975
01:42:31,187 --> 01:42:34,787
Speaker 38: She is super famous and for the for the listeners

1976
01:42:34,827 --> 01:42:37,307
Speaker 38: out there, if they haven't seen what she did. She

1977
01:42:37,547 --> 01:42:40,547
Speaker 38: kind of arrived on the floor. It reminded me of

1978
01:42:40,587 --> 01:42:43,387
Speaker 38: an episode of Kath and Kim. You know, look Amy,

1979
01:42:43,507 --> 01:42:47,227
Speaker 38: look a moy and and then she did something that

1980
01:42:47,267 --> 01:42:50,307
Speaker 38: resembled a kangaroo. And there were a couple of times

1981
01:42:50,347 --> 01:42:52,107
Speaker 38: where she looked like she was mopping the floor with

1982
01:42:52,187 --> 01:42:57,427
Speaker 38: her head and it just was quite bizarre. And you know,

1983
01:42:57,667 --> 01:43:00,147
Speaker 38: she was genuine. She she was really proud to be there.

1984
01:43:00,187 --> 01:43:03,867
Speaker 38: She's a thirty six year old university lecturer. Although after

1985
01:43:03,907 --> 01:43:07,907
Speaker 38: watching her perform, I wouldn't trust you to teach anything, so.

1986
01:43:09,307 --> 01:43:11,027
Speaker 28: It just didn't add up.

1987
01:43:11,107 --> 01:43:14,267
Speaker 38: And look, I hope that she's okay because I think

1988
01:43:14,307 --> 01:43:15,507
Speaker 38: she's going to get a lot of attention.

1989
01:43:15,627 --> 01:43:17,747
Speaker 28: You know what Australians are like, if you're.

1990
01:43:17,587 --> 01:43:20,307
Speaker 38: Not ripping the green and gold the right way, they'll

1991
01:43:20,347 --> 01:43:22,187
Speaker 38: come down on you like a ton of bricks.

1992
01:43:22,507 --> 01:43:24,707
Speaker 2: I wonder that actually, because I've seen a lot of

1993
01:43:25,507 --> 01:43:27,867
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, people mentioning this and as

1994
01:43:27,907 --> 01:43:30,627
Speaker 2: you would have seen this online, she has just exploded.

1995
01:43:30,667 --> 01:43:34,547
Speaker 2: She probably is as as prominent in the last weekends

1996
01:43:34,627 --> 01:43:37,267
Speaker 2: as Tony Hawk. But I think people are some people

1997
01:43:37,347 --> 01:43:39,907
Speaker 2: are like, this is absolutely ridiculous. What is going on,

1998
01:43:40,027 --> 01:43:43,907
Speaker 2: she's she's become a laughing stock or made our country

1999
01:43:43,987 --> 01:43:46,787
Speaker 2: laughing stock. Well, I think there's another side of some

2000
01:43:46,867 --> 01:43:49,867
Speaker 2: Australians that I've seen who actually now are making her

2001
01:43:49,867 --> 01:43:52,107
Speaker 2: into a bit of a cult hero. So it'll be

2002
01:43:52,147 --> 01:43:54,467
Speaker 2: interesting to see where it lands once she gets back home.

2003
01:43:55,867 --> 01:43:56,587
Speaker 28: Yeah, she is.

2004
01:43:57,387 --> 01:44:03,027
Speaker 38: She's somewhere between in the Eagle, Eric the Eel and

2005
01:44:03,707 --> 01:44:07,587
Speaker 38: that that I skates Stephen Bradbury who won a gold

2006
01:44:07,627 --> 01:44:08,827
Speaker 38: medal when everyone fell over.

2007
01:44:08,987 --> 01:44:12,387
Speaker 28: Yes, yes, but I mean look, I mean.

2008
01:44:12,307 --> 01:44:16,067
Speaker 38: Bradbury was a proper racer. I feel the only issue

2009
01:44:16,107 --> 01:44:20,547
Speaker 38: with ray gun Rachel Gunn is.

2010
01:44:20,547 --> 01:44:25,867
Speaker 28: That she is that she ended up looking kind of comical.

2011
01:44:25,947 --> 01:44:29,267
Speaker 38: Really, that's the only problem was I was, I was

2012
01:44:29,347 --> 01:44:30,547
Speaker 38: enjoying it in the wrong way.

2013
01:44:30,627 --> 01:44:32,947
Speaker 28: Really, that was something to behold.

2014
01:44:34,027 --> 01:44:36,067
Speaker 38: There were a few memes out there saying this is

2015
01:44:36,067 --> 01:44:40,827
Speaker 38: what happens after a six year old says watch me

2016
01:44:41,587 --> 01:44:43,347
Speaker 38: and mum watched this.

2017
01:44:44,627 --> 01:44:46,707
Speaker 2: It's like when they put on when you have visitors

2018
01:44:46,707 --> 01:44:50,867
Speaker 2: around and they put on shows. That's exactly. Another one

2019
01:44:50,947 --> 01:44:53,147
Speaker 2: I saw was here's a move I like to call

2020
01:44:53,227 --> 01:44:55,107
Speaker 2: Tracy's had a few vodkas.

2021
01:44:56,187 --> 01:44:58,067
Speaker 38: Yeah, I know, I mean, it's just the guess that

2022
01:44:58,147 --> 01:45:01,387
Speaker 38: keeps on giving. So yeah, we've all been chasing big names.

2023
01:45:01,427 --> 01:45:05,027
Speaker 38: I mean I spoke to Scottish Scheffler after after he

2024
01:45:05,947 --> 01:45:09,547
Speaker 38: won the gold middle of the men's golf and I thought, Okay,

2025
01:45:09,547 --> 01:45:11,747
Speaker 38: it's not going to get much bigger than Scottie Scheffler.

2026
01:45:11,747 --> 01:45:14,787
Speaker 38: But hey, a couple of days later, Tony Hawk and

2027
01:45:14,827 --> 01:45:15,787
Speaker 38: then Raygun.

2028
01:45:16,547 --> 01:45:19,947
Speaker 2: That's the holy Trinity of the Olympic Games. You've absolutely

2029
01:45:20,027 --> 01:45:22,227
Speaker 2: nailed it. And I have to say, and the discussion

2030
01:45:22,267 --> 01:45:27,067
Speaker 2: back here is that only James mcconey gets those interviews. Look,

2031
01:45:27,107 --> 01:45:29,107
Speaker 2: I know you won't likely saying this, but you are

2032
01:45:29,147 --> 01:45:34,227
Speaker 2: the most disarming person I've ever met. And I'm sure

2033
01:45:34,227 --> 01:45:37,427
Speaker 2: that when Tony Hawk and Scotti Scheffler and Raygun locked

2034
01:45:37,427 --> 01:45:39,827
Speaker 2: eyes with you, they were brought under that spell that

2035
01:45:39,987 --> 01:45:43,467
Speaker 2: so many others have been and just felt compelled to

2036
01:45:43,587 --> 01:45:46,067
Speaker 2: open their hearts to you. I just think you have

2037
01:45:46,107 --> 01:45:51,507
Speaker 2: an incredible ability to disarm people and to make them

2038
01:45:51,547 --> 01:45:53,987
Speaker 2: want a chat to you. And look, it's something that

2039
01:45:54,187 --> 01:45:55,747
Speaker 2: I've admired for a long long time.

2040
01:45:56,987 --> 01:45:58,587
Speaker 28: Thanks man, I really appreciate that.

2041
01:45:58,747 --> 01:46:00,747
Speaker 38: You know what, I still get people coming up on

2042
01:46:00,747 --> 01:46:03,627
Speaker 38: the street and asking for directions. I am that guy. Yes,

2043
01:46:04,227 --> 01:46:08,987
Speaker 38: we're people. Yeah, and I don't even speak for each

2044
01:46:09,067 --> 01:46:10,987
Speaker 38: or know where the hell I'm going. So, you know,

2045
01:46:11,347 --> 01:46:15,947
Speaker 38: I think that there is something there's something in that maybe.

2046
01:46:15,987 --> 01:46:18,987
Speaker 38: But the one thing I do think with guys like

2047
01:46:19,027 --> 01:46:22,347
Speaker 38: Scottie Scheffler and I think You've got this exactly exact

2048
01:46:22,387 --> 01:46:24,867
Speaker 38: same ability as well, is that as soon as you

2049
01:46:25,067 --> 01:46:27,067
Speaker 38: talk to them, you realize whether you can get on

2050
01:46:27,107 --> 01:46:29,307
Speaker 38: the same page with those people, you know, whether they've

2051
01:46:29,307 --> 01:46:32,947
Speaker 38: got a little bit of enjoyment and fun in their

2052
01:46:32,947 --> 01:46:35,827
Speaker 38: in their life, you know. And I think I've I've

2053
01:46:35,867 --> 01:46:38,107
Speaker 38: got that even just from my family. You know, my mom,

2054
01:46:38,187 --> 01:46:42,507
Speaker 38: my grandmother, and you know, my sisters. We're all very

2055
01:46:42,547 --> 01:46:45,787
Speaker 38: similar like that. We like to find out people's life

2056
01:46:45,787 --> 01:46:49,747
Speaker 38: story in two minutes and you know, and counting. Really

2057
01:46:49,787 --> 01:46:52,227
Speaker 38: it's just a it's a family curse.

2058
01:46:52,547 --> 01:46:57,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well it is also a magic powerte a magic power. Indeed, James,

2059
01:46:57,267 --> 01:46:59,107
Speaker 2: great to chat to you. Presume you'll be coming home

2060
01:46:59,147 --> 01:47:00,947
Speaker 2: at some stage. Can we look forward to your company

2061
01:47:01,027 --> 01:47:03,987
Speaker 2: next Sunday from somewhere maybe back here, over there or

2062
01:47:04,027 --> 01:47:04,907
Speaker 2: somewhere in between.

2063
01:47:05,987 --> 01:47:08,667
Speaker 38: Well, I'm going to drive you crazy because I think

2064
01:47:08,707 --> 01:47:12,667
Speaker 38: I'll be at the opening day of the Ignish Premier

2065
01:47:12,787 --> 01:47:14,947
Speaker 38: League Bornemouth versus at Nottingham Forest.

2066
01:47:15,027 --> 01:47:19,347
Speaker 28: So you can oh and get excited about that, mate.

2067
01:47:19,107 --> 01:47:21,627
Speaker 2: Safe travels there, can't wait to catch up next Sunday,

2068
01:47:21,707 --> 01:47:23,667
Speaker 2: get some sleep. Always great to chat.

2069
01:47:24,667 --> 01:47:27,747
Speaker 38: Cheers mate, really appreciate it and can't wait to get back.

2070
01:47:27,827 --> 01:47:29,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to see when you get back, mate,

2071
01:47:29,507 --> 01:47:32,627
Speaker 2: But off to Bournemouth with you to watch Bournemouth against

2072
01:47:32,667 --> 01:47:35,347
Speaker 2: Nottingham Forest. Unfortunately Alex Paulson's not going to be there.

2073
01:47:35,347 --> 01:47:37,387
Speaker 2: We didn't even get the chance to chat about Alex

2074
01:47:37,427 --> 01:47:39,627
Speaker 2: Paulson over the weekend. There was so much else going on.

2075
01:47:40,667 --> 01:47:44,507
Speaker 2: Alex Paulson to Auckland FC. Maybe we can address that

2076
01:47:44,587 --> 01:47:47,987
Speaker 2: once the games are over. Twenty six away from three

2077
01:47:48,027 --> 01:47:50,387
Speaker 2: when we come back. It's New Zealand's number one dance

2078
01:47:50,427 --> 01:47:53,147
Speaker 2: player Hope by Pooh and we'll let you know how

2079
01:47:53,187 --> 01:47:54,867
Speaker 2: you can get your hands on a couple of tickets

2080
01:47:54,907 --> 01:47:56,987
Speaker 2: to the Hamilton Dance Masters next Friday.

2081
01:47:57,987 --> 01:48:01,507
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

2082
01:48:01,627 --> 01:48:06,067
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason GJ Gunn Homes New Zealand's most trusted

2083
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Speaker 1: home builder, News talks.

2084
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2085
01:48:11,347 --> 01:48:14,787
Speaker 2: next weekend at a Globbox arena in Hamilton, coming to

2086
01:48:14,827 --> 01:48:18,307
Speaker 2: New Zealand. We spoke to world number one Luke Humphreys yesterday,

2087
01:48:18,347 --> 01:48:21,507
Speaker 2: world champion, World match Play champion, and bunch of other

2088
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Speaker 2: champions as well. Michael Smith is coming, Gerwin Price, Rob Cross,

2089
01:48:26,427 --> 01:48:29,587
Speaker 2: Peter Wright, Luke Littler to meet Roy Vandenberg, Damon Hetter.

2090
01:48:29,907 --> 01:48:33,147
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2091
01:48:33,227 --> 01:48:35,227
Speaker 2: number one, Hope by Pouha, who's standing by the chat

2092
01:48:35,267 --> 01:48:38,467
Speaker 2: to us. We've got a double pass to Friday's session,

2093
01:48:38,507 --> 01:48:42,307
Speaker 2: Friday night session at the Hamilton Darts Masters. If you

2094
01:48:43,267 --> 01:48:46,907
Speaker 2: would like those tickets, simply text I was gonna what

2095
01:48:46,987 --> 01:48:48,747
Speaker 2: do it do? Yesterday we got people to text the

2096
01:48:48,747 --> 01:48:50,987
Speaker 2: word darts. I know what we'll do today. Why don't

2097
01:48:51,027 --> 01:48:54,147
Speaker 2: you tech through the highest score you can get with

2098
01:48:54,267 --> 01:49:01,987
Speaker 2: three darts? Tech through that that score to nine nine two,

2099
01:49:02,867 --> 01:49:05,267
Speaker 2: the highest score you can get with three darts? What

2100
01:49:05,467 --> 01:49:08,867
Speaker 2: is that? To nine two nine two? And we will

2101
01:49:09,347 --> 01:49:11,987
Speaker 2: will draw a winner in the next fifteen minutes or so.

2102
01:49:12,507 --> 01:49:16,267
Speaker 2: I hope, I booh, number one in Oceania is with us,

2103
01:49:16,787 --> 01:49:20,347
Speaker 2: and I hope I First of all, I've got a

2104
01:49:20,387 --> 01:49:22,107
Speaker 2: lot of questions for you about the year you've had,

2105
01:49:22,147 --> 01:49:24,027
Speaker 2: but how much you're looking forward to coming home and

2106
01:49:24,027 --> 01:49:25,067
Speaker 2: competing on home soil.

2107
01:49:26,347 --> 01:49:28,787
Speaker 13: Yeah, Hamilton has always top of the list for me,

2108
01:49:29,587 --> 01:49:33,867
Speaker 13: playing in front of the home crowd. Yeah, I'm stoked.

2109
01:49:34,067 --> 01:49:34,627
Speaker 13: I can't wait.

2110
01:49:35,307 --> 01:49:38,587
Speaker 2: It's been a big year for you, a landmark year

2111
01:49:38,627 --> 01:49:40,587
Speaker 2: in any ways. We spoke to you, I think right

2112
01:49:40,587 --> 01:49:42,147
Speaker 2: at the start of the year when you earned your

2113
01:49:42,147 --> 01:49:44,467
Speaker 2: PDC tour card. Can you tell us what the first

2114
01:49:44,507 --> 01:49:46,307
Speaker 2: six months of the year have been like for you.

2115
01:49:49,267 --> 01:49:51,347
Speaker 13: It's just yeah, it's just it's been. It's been tough

2116
01:49:51,387 --> 01:49:55,627
Speaker 13: at times. It's been my family's been been here in

2117
01:49:55,667 --> 01:49:58,427
Speaker 13: New Zealand, so I've been over there in the deep

2118
01:49:58,507 --> 01:50:01,187
Speaker 13: end by myself. So at times it is lonely, but

2119
01:50:02,547 --> 01:50:06,227
Speaker 13: I'm over there. I'm a trailblazer. I'm soaking it all up.

2120
01:50:06,467 --> 01:50:11,547
Speaker 13: I'm one of, you know, one of the professionals in

2121
01:50:11,547 --> 01:50:15,427
Speaker 13: the room. So I've been working hard. I've been grinding away,

2122
01:50:15,947 --> 01:50:19,107
Speaker 13: treating it as a job. Some of the results haven't

2123
01:50:19,147 --> 01:50:22,067
Speaker 13: really been going my way, but I've been getting better

2124
01:50:22,067 --> 01:50:26,147
Speaker 13: and better every time. I'm back home now after six months,

2125
01:50:26,747 --> 01:50:29,267
Speaker 13: so Yeah, it's been good to catch up with the

2126
01:50:29,307 --> 01:50:32,027
Speaker 13: family when on a bit of a holiday the last

2127
01:50:32,027 --> 01:50:35,067
Speaker 13: couple of weeks. And yeah, the last couple of days,

2128
01:50:35,107 --> 01:50:37,587
Speaker 13: I've been back on the board two weeks off and

2129
01:50:37,627 --> 01:50:40,747
Speaker 13: it's start like it feels like I haven't fronted up

2130
01:50:40,747 --> 01:50:45,147
Speaker 13: for like months. So yeah, I've been doing two sessions

2131
01:50:45,147 --> 01:50:48,307
Speaker 13: a day, trying to get back in the swing of things,

2132
01:50:47,907 --> 01:50:50,427
Speaker 13: and yeah, and enjoining all of it.

2133
01:50:51,427 --> 01:50:53,587
Speaker 2: I guess we all just assume it's a glamorous life,

2134
01:50:53,627 --> 01:50:55,587
Speaker 2: don't we. But that must have been harday, being away

2135
01:50:55,587 --> 01:50:58,427
Speaker 2: from your family for six months. How have you How

2136
01:50:58,467 --> 01:51:01,347
Speaker 2: have you gone about dealing with that? WAT strategies have

2137
01:51:01,427 --> 01:51:01,827
Speaker 2: you used?

2138
01:51:05,227 --> 01:51:08,107
Speaker 13: Well, we're lucky day and age of technology, we can

2139
01:51:08,227 --> 01:51:12,467
Speaker 13: have video calls, so video calls twice a day in

2140
01:51:12,507 --> 01:51:15,747
Speaker 13: the morning, well in the morning news. The other morning

2141
01:51:15,867 --> 01:51:18,267
Speaker 13: I would ring before the kids go to school and

2142
01:51:18,267 --> 01:51:22,707
Speaker 13: then obviously before bedtime. So yeah, and to be fair,

2143
01:51:22,787 --> 01:51:26,827
Speaker 13: it's probably I speak more to the kids while I

2144
01:51:26,867 --> 01:51:30,947
Speaker 13: was away than when I'm actually at home. So so yeah,

2145
01:51:30,987 --> 01:51:36,747
Speaker 13: that's a big yeah, big I mean, plus having having

2146
01:51:36,827 --> 01:51:44,547
Speaker 13: devices like this at the same time. Yeah, it's it's

2147
01:51:44,587 --> 01:51:46,707
Speaker 13: not just my goal, it's it's a family go it's

2148
01:51:46,707 --> 01:51:49,667
Speaker 13: our goal. So I'm over there trying to make a

2149
01:51:49,667 --> 01:51:52,507
Speaker 13: better life for us, so trying to get off the tools,

2150
01:51:52,627 --> 01:51:55,987
Speaker 13: trying to get off the roofs, and yeah, make something

2151
01:51:55,987 --> 01:51:56,267
Speaker 13: of it.

2152
01:51:56,387 --> 01:52:00,707
Speaker 2: Well, you're making the steps towards that made it's it's

2153
01:52:00,707 --> 01:52:03,027
Speaker 2: it's awesome to see. So tell us about the tell

2154
01:52:03,067 --> 01:52:04,947
Speaker 2: us about the week to week of being a you know,

2155
01:52:05,067 --> 01:52:08,347
Speaker 2: being a professional on the dark room. You know, do

2156
01:52:08,387 --> 01:52:10,547
Speaker 2: you still do you still have to pinch me moments

2157
01:52:10,587 --> 01:52:12,467
Speaker 2: or do you feel, look, I am I do belong

2158
01:52:12,547 --> 01:52:12,907
Speaker 2: here now?

2159
01:52:14,707 --> 01:52:17,987
Speaker 13: To be fair, I always thought I belonged. Uh you

2160
01:52:18,107 --> 01:52:20,827
Speaker 13: might ask me who's my favorite player, and I still

2161
01:52:20,907 --> 01:52:24,027
Speaker 13: do say Gary Anderson until he's at the ockey with

2162
01:52:24,107 --> 01:52:27,667
Speaker 13: me and there you know. But yeah, when when you

2163
01:52:27,707 --> 01:52:30,747
Speaker 13: walk into the room, it's hard to have the same mindset.

2164
01:52:30,947 --> 01:52:33,987
Speaker 13: Like in New Zealand, I walk into a room and

2165
01:52:34,067 --> 01:52:37,707
Speaker 13: feel like, you know, I'm nine, I'm a good chance

2166
01:52:37,747 --> 01:52:39,707
Speaker 13: of winning. But when you walk into the room over

2167
01:52:39,747 --> 01:52:41,307
Speaker 13: there and you look to the left and there's Michael

2168
01:52:41,387 --> 01:52:43,667
Speaker 13: Van going, and I look to the right and there's

2169
01:52:43,947 --> 01:52:46,587
Speaker 13: you know, Littler and Humphreys and Peter right, you know,

2170
01:52:46,667 --> 01:52:50,867
Speaker 13: it's it's that is a tough part. And and it's

2171
01:52:50,907 --> 01:52:55,267
Speaker 13: even though the halls are packed with people, it's still

2172
01:52:55,907 --> 01:52:58,627
Speaker 13: you know, I'm still over there by myself. It's relatively

2173
01:52:58,667 --> 01:53:03,667
Speaker 13: learning at the same time. But yeah, it's just yeah,

2174
01:53:03,747 --> 01:53:08,107
Speaker 13: just going away and small small steps to get better

2175
01:53:08,147 --> 01:53:11,867
Speaker 13: and better. And it is looking. It's all we all

2176
01:53:11,907 --> 01:53:14,627
Speaker 13: can't be little at learn and when everything that we

2177
01:53:14,667 --> 01:53:17,747
Speaker 13: look at when we first get there. But as much

2178
01:53:17,747 --> 01:53:18,347
Speaker 13: as we want to.

2179
01:53:18,347 --> 01:53:20,747
Speaker 2: Be, he's just burst onto the scene has now. I

2180
01:53:20,747 --> 01:53:22,347
Speaker 2: want to ask you a bit about him in a second.

2181
01:53:22,347 --> 01:53:23,987
Speaker 2: But something you said there about you know, looking to

2182
01:53:24,027 --> 01:53:26,307
Speaker 2: your left and see Michael van Go and looking to

2183
01:53:26,347 --> 01:53:28,947
Speaker 2: your right and seeing, look littler who it might be.

2184
01:53:29,147 --> 01:53:32,187
Speaker 2: But you still feel like, you know, there's no I

2185
01:53:32,187 --> 01:53:35,587
Speaker 2: guess some you know, psychological being overawed by this. You're

2186
01:53:35,587 --> 01:53:38,347
Speaker 2: still like, well, I'm here too, you know, it's just me.

2187
01:53:38,467 --> 01:53:40,147
Speaker 2: It's me and my three darts on the board against

2188
01:53:40,187 --> 01:53:40,547
Speaker 2: that bloke.

2189
01:53:41,387 --> 01:53:44,587
Speaker 13: Yeah. To be fair, when when I do play against

2190
01:53:44,867 --> 01:53:47,787
Speaker 13: those types of guys, you know what you're in for,

2191
01:53:47,987 --> 01:53:50,427
Speaker 13: so you know you have to play good. So those

2192
01:53:50,467 --> 01:53:52,107
Speaker 13: sort of games I tend to play a bit better.

2193
01:53:52,147 --> 01:53:57,787
Speaker 13: But it's the less known people, you know, like we think, oh,

2194
01:53:57,827 --> 01:54:00,067
Speaker 13: I might have a chance here and then they have

2195
01:54:00,187 --> 01:54:02,187
Speaker 13: one hundred and ten, so they're they're in the same

2196
01:54:02,187 --> 01:54:04,467
Speaker 13: boat i'm and you know, they're thinking the same thing.

2197
01:54:04,467 --> 01:54:07,427
Speaker 13: They don't know who I am. And it does get

2198
01:54:07,467 --> 01:54:07,867
Speaker 13: a bit late.

2199
01:54:09,227 --> 01:54:12,467
Speaker 2: Luke Littler, as I say, you know, I guess eighteen

2200
01:54:12,507 --> 01:54:14,547
Speaker 2: months ago not many people would have heard of him,

2201
01:54:14,587 --> 01:54:18,227
Speaker 2: but an incredible world championship of course, and now you know, know,

2202
01:54:18,427 --> 01:54:21,547
Speaker 2: and across the world of darts and wider than that

2203
01:54:21,627 --> 01:54:24,707
Speaker 2: as well. You've obviously had the chance to be in

2204
01:54:24,707 --> 01:54:26,827
Speaker 2: the same space with him. Have you had much to

2205
01:54:26,867 --> 01:54:28,467
Speaker 2: do with Luke Littler at all?

2206
01:54:29,227 --> 01:54:33,307
Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, so in the darling world, we're all known

2207
01:54:33,387 --> 01:54:36,187
Speaker 13: who luck litter is. He's still be enough to play,

2208
01:54:38,507 --> 01:54:40,747
Speaker 13: you know, the amateur tournaments and stuff like that. So

2209
01:54:41,147 --> 01:54:43,827
Speaker 13: it's only you had to be sixteen to be a professional.

2210
01:54:43,947 --> 01:54:46,747
Speaker 13: So he's probably been good enough to be on the

2211
01:54:46,787 --> 01:54:49,827
Speaker 13: pro circuit since he was thirteen. So like he's been

2212
01:54:49,867 --> 01:54:52,307
Speaker 13: winning for a long time. It's just the fact that

2213
01:54:52,387 --> 01:54:54,587
Speaker 13: he turned sixteen and become a pro and now the

2214
01:54:54,627 --> 01:54:57,027
Speaker 13: world can see him. We already knew who he was.

2215
01:54:57,427 --> 01:55:00,187
Speaker 13: He beat us, He beat us up online like many

2216
01:55:00,227 --> 01:55:04,467
Speaker 13: a times, so We didn't think he was going to

2217
01:55:04,507 --> 01:55:06,947
Speaker 13: have that much of an impact, which is it's it's

2218
01:55:06,987 --> 01:55:09,947
Speaker 13: been good, Like it's throughout the board, you know, with darts,

2219
01:55:09,947 --> 01:55:13,907
Speaker 13: Hour's accessories, boards, just the hyper darts. He's brought a

2220
01:55:13,947 --> 01:55:17,387
Speaker 13: lot of hype to our sport, which is good, and

2221
01:55:17,427 --> 01:55:20,467
Speaker 13: the money has gone up everywhere. So he's been he's

2222
01:55:20,507 --> 01:55:20,987
Speaker 13: been awesome.

2223
01:55:20,987 --> 01:55:23,507
Speaker 2: For the game playing, we can work out like you

2224
01:55:23,547 --> 01:55:25,947
Speaker 2: have been. Where have you seen the big improvements in

2225
01:55:25,987 --> 01:55:26,427
Speaker 2: your game?

2226
01:55:30,347 --> 01:55:35,267
Speaker 13: Well, numbers don't mind the averages. You know, everything's on

2227
01:55:35,427 --> 01:55:41,667
Speaker 13: Dark connect now, so the averages pretty much even just

2228
01:55:41,827 --> 01:55:47,027
Speaker 13: mindset practice, like just seeing it going, like I practice

2229
01:55:47,107 --> 01:55:49,587
Speaker 13: really really good, like half the time when I when

2230
01:55:49,627 --> 01:55:53,187
Speaker 13: I my good game never comes out. It's just a

2231
01:55:53,187 --> 01:55:55,187
Speaker 13: matter of time. Hopefully, hopefully it's going to be one

2232
01:55:55,187 --> 01:55:56,347
Speaker 13: of the next two world series.

2233
01:55:57,467 --> 01:56:00,347
Speaker 2: So you can put it all together, you know, you

2234
01:56:00,347 --> 01:56:03,027
Speaker 2: can let the numbers in practice. What what does it

2235
01:56:03,107 --> 01:56:06,107
Speaker 2: take to to then convert that into into doing that

2236
01:56:06,747 --> 01:56:10,947
Speaker 2: on the really big stages, just.

2237
01:56:10,347 --> 01:56:13,187
Speaker 13: Just doing it more and more, getting used to it.

2238
01:56:14,627 --> 01:56:18,907
Speaker 13: They you know, the top guys in front of thousands

2239
01:56:18,947 --> 01:56:23,267
Speaker 13: of people, like every week. I like, lower down the ranks,

2240
01:56:23,267 --> 01:56:26,827
Speaker 13: we don't get to play all the time, so they're

2241
01:56:26,827 --> 01:56:30,227
Speaker 13: playing week in week out. We were practicing. You have

2242
01:56:30,307 --> 01:56:33,587
Speaker 13: to qualify, so for half of the events that they're playing,

2243
01:56:33,627 --> 01:56:38,067
Speaker 13: and we we're like trying to qualified for them. So

2244
01:56:38,267 --> 01:56:42,027
Speaker 13: there is a lot of downtime for me. So not

2245
01:56:42,227 --> 01:56:45,147
Speaker 13: enough downtime that I can come home, but enough to

2246
01:56:45,747 --> 01:56:48,987
Speaker 13: you know, three weeks in between some events for me,

2247
01:56:49,387 --> 01:56:52,867
Speaker 13: whereas they're playing like every single week, and though even

2248
01:56:52,907 --> 01:56:58,467
Speaker 13: have exhibitions with hundreds to thousands of people as well.

2249
01:56:58,587 --> 01:57:01,907
Speaker 13: So it's just it looks so normal to them because

2250
01:57:01,907 --> 01:57:02,267
Speaker 13: it is.

2251
01:57:03,787 --> 01:57:05,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a gap that you believe you can

2252
01:57:05,707 --> 01:57:07,907
Speaker 2: bridge because as you say, I'm sure there's a lot

2253
01:57:07,947 --> 01:57:09,907
Speaker 2: of guys sort of at your level. You talk about

2254
01:57:09,907 --> 01:57:12,627
Speaker 2: the top guys and you've just outlined what their lives

2255
01:57:12,627 --> 01:57:14,627
Speaker 2: are like. But there must be that level that you're

2256
01:57:14,667 --> 01:57:16,547
Speaker 2: on where there are a lot of guys just you know,

2257
01:57:16,667 --> 01:57:18,987
Speaker 2: just looking to make that step up. You believe you

2258
01:57:18,987 --> 01:57:20,347
Speaker 2: can you can bridge that gap.

2259
01:57:21,507 --> 01:57:25,907
Speaker 13: I've had some good games one hundred, one hundred plus

2260
01:57:25,987 --> 01:57:29,747
Speaker 13: averages and winning against like some of the best players

2261
01:57:29,747 --> 01:57:33,107
Speaker 13: in the world. I still think but my practice has

2262
01:57:33,147 --> 01:57:35,747
Speaker 13: still been really really good. It's still a matter of time,

2263
01:57:36,187 --> 01:57:40,027
Speaker 13: but Yeah, it's just I don't know, it's a weird game.

2264
01:57:40,067 --> 01:57:44,787
Speaker 13: It's a game of minimeters. When I backstage sometimes I

2265
01:57:44,827 --> 01:57:47,347
Speaker 13: feel like I can't miss, and then you get on

2266
01:57:47,387 --> 01:57:49,987
Speaker 13: stage and then you can't hit anything, and then and

2267
01:57:50,027 --> 01:57:53,347
Speaker 13: then vice versa. I'll be backstage and can't have anything,

2268
01:57:53,387 --> 01:57:55,587
Speaker 13: get on stage and win. You know, like it's just

2269
01:57:55,627 --> 01:57:58,027
Speaker 13: a it's a very weird game. But they always say

2270
01:57:58,067 --> 01:58:00,867
Speaker 13: the more you get comfortable about what's doing in it,

2271
01:58:00,947 --> 01:58:05,427
Speaker 13: the more the results will come. Just keep running away,

2272
01:58:05,547 --> 01:58:07,787
Speaker 13: black Phil Taylor. Just grind away and grind away.

2273
01:58:08,147 --> 01:58:08,347
Speaker 28: Yeah.

2274
01:58:08,547 --> 01:58:11,947
Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed, indeed he did. He's still you're still at

2275
01:58:11,987 --> 01:58:17,787
Speaker 2: the same. Favorite doubles, any doubles, A good double.

2276
01:58:19,347 --> 01:58:21,347
Speaker 13: Where when when you're playing the best in the world

2277
01:58:21,347 --> 01:58:23,147
Speaker 13: and you just hope to get a chance of a double.

2278
01:58:25,227 --> 01:58:27,027
Speaker 2: It's a really good way of looking at it, a

2279
01:58:27,067 --> 01:58:29,547
Speaker 2: really good way of looking at it. Yeah, So just

2280
01:58:29,587 --> 01:58:32,947
Speaker 2: to finish back home in Hamilton, you know it's you

2281
01:58:33,027 --> 01:58:34,907
Speaker 2: must love that that home crowd. I mean, we obviously

2282
01:58:34,947 --> 01:58:37,227
Speaker 2: watch it on television all of these big events around

2283
01:58:37,227 --> 01:58:38,947
Speaker 2: the place, but you know, to get the chance to

2284
01:58:39,347 --> 01:58:41,587
Speaker 2: see the likes of yourself and the other players, I

2285
01:58:41,587 --> 01:58:43,067
Speaker 2: mean to pour up close. You must get a real

2286
01:58:43,187 --> 01:58:44,787
Speaker 2: energy from a home crowd, do you.

2287
01:58:44,907 --> 01:58:49,027
Speaker 13: Yeah, it'll be good to not get booed and not

2288
01:58:49,067 --> 01:58:53,667
Speaker 13: get whistled at this. I'm looking forward to that. The

2289
01:58:53,987 --> 01:58:58,507
Speaker 13: European crowds and they're yeah, they're something else. There is

2290
01:58:58,547 --> 01:58:59,027
Speaker 13: that right?

2291
01:58:59,107 --> 01:59:00,187
Speaker 2: They let you have it.

2292
01:59:02,307 --> 01:59:06,027
Speaker 13: Especially if you like, especially the pro tours. When you're

2293
01:59:06,027 --> 01:59:09,787
Speaker 13: playing the Euros, when you're playing in Germany against Germans,

2294
01:59:09,827 --> 01:59:11,627
Speaker 13: you know you're inmper.

2295
01:59:11,467 --> 01:59:14,827
Speaker 2: It amazing And just to confirm.

2296
01:59:15,547 --> 01:59:17,347
Speaker 13: It is tough. When you listen back to it, you're like,

2297
01:59:17,387 --> 01:59:19,867
Speaker 13: oh my god, that's really bad. But as part of

2298
01:59:19,907 --> 01:59:23,507
Speaker 13: the game now you've got to have a thick, thick skin.

2299
01:59:23,387 --> 01:59:26,427
Speaker 2: Now, absolutely, And just to confirm the tour card, so

2300
01:59:26,707 --> 01:59:28,907
Speaker 2: to retain that, what do you have to do to

2301
01:59:28,987 --> 01:59:30,067
Speaker 2: retain your tour card?

2302
01:59:31,667 --> 01:59:36,187
Speaker 13: So if you stay in the top sixty four and

2303
01:59:36,227 --> 01:59:39,147
Speaker 13: the money moneyless and money rankings and stuff like that,

2304
01:59:39,307 --> 01:59:40,547
Speaker 13: you can have a tour card forever.

2305
01:59:41,987 --> 01:59:44,147
Speaker 2: And so whereabouts are you in relation to that.

2306
01:59:45,667 --> 01:59:47,267
Speaker 13: I'm right at the bottom. I'm not at the bottom.

2307
01:59:47,307 --> 01:59:52,547
Speaker 13: I'm about one hundred okay. So the rankings is a

2308
01:59:52,587 --> 01:59:55,787
Speaker 13: two year cycle, so I'll do two years and then

2309
01:59:55,827 --> 01:59:57,947
Speaker 13: if I'm inside the sixty four, then I wouldn't actually

2310
01:59:57,987 --> 02:00:01,267
Speaker 13: go back. All right, that's one of the goals, right, so.

2311
02:00:01,267 --> 02:00:02,827
Speaker 2: Plenty of time for that. Then you already watched six

2312
02:00:02,827 --> 02:00:03,707
Speaker 2: months and is that right?

2313
02:00:04,827 --> 02:00:06,707
Speaker 13: Yep, that's quick, that's correct, brilliant.

2314
02:00:06,707 --> 02:00:08,667
Speaker 2: Well, I bet your family delighted to have you home,

2315
02:00:08,827 --> 02:00:11,147
Speaker 2: Hope IY. So we can't wait to see you up

2316
02:00:11,147 --> 02:00:14,587
Speaker 2: on the ocky at Hamilton in a couple of weeks time.

2317
02:00:14,747 --> 02:00:17,827
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time for a chat. No, thanks

2318
02:00:17,867 --> 02:00:20,547
Speaker 2: for having me, Thanks for joining us, Hope, I hope,

2319
02:00:20,547 --> 02:00:23,827
Speaker 2: I pooh our number one darts player. Not a couple

2320
02:00:23,827 --> 02:00:27,107
Speaker 2: of weeks this coming week Friday Saturday at Globbox Arena

2321
02:00:27,147 --> 02:00:30,467
Speaker 2: in Hamilton, the New Zealand Darts Masters sell some tickets available.

2322
02:00:30,507 --> 02:00:33,027
Speaker 2: I understand. Thank you for all your texts. The answer

2323
02:00:33,067 --> 02:00:34,867
Speaker 2: is one hundred and eighty. Of course, the high score

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Speaker 2: you can get with three darts. Some people took it

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Speaker 2: literally and said, well, the high school I can get

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Speaker 2: with three darts is about fourteen. I enjoyed your originality there,

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Speaker 2: and we have picked out one or out. I should

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Speaker 2: have actually mentioned at the start we can't get you

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Speaker 2: to Hamilton. You need to get there under your own steam.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure people realized that when I didn't mention Airfair's

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Speaker 2: accommodation and such like. It's just the tickets. So hopefully

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Speaker 2: our winner, Christine can get there. Christine, we've drawn you

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Speaker 2: out and he's going to be in touch and let

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Speaker 2: you know how those tickets can get to your place

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Speaker 2: and you can get along to watch the Hamilton Darts

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Speaker 2: Masters on Friday night at Globbox Arena and Hamilton. What

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Speaker 2: are we nine and a half away from?

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Speaker 39: Three back after this analyzing every view from every angle

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Speaker 39: in the sporting world Weekends for it with Jason vine

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Speaker 39: Call and eighty News Talks eNB six.

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Speaker 2: To three just before we hand it over to the

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Speaker 2: Weekend Collective. Tonight is the final night of competition at

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Speaker 2: the Olympic Games and our main focus is at the Vlodrome.

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Speaker 2: We do have Camille French though, in the women's marathon

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Speaker 2: that gets underway at six o'clock tonight New Zealand time,

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Speaker 2: and then we're off to the track. Alie Wallaston taking

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Speaker 2: part in the women's omnium. Sam Daykon is in the men's.

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Speaker 2: Karen Elise Andrews is in the women's sprint. So Ellie

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Speaker 2: Williston from nine, Sam Dakin from nine twenty nine, Elise

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Speaker 2: Andrews from nine fifty. That is when you can watch

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Speaker 2: them in action and listen to them action on gold

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Speaker 2: Sport via iHeartRadio. That's where we will be for the

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Speaker 2: sixteenth and final time as we bring you the final

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Speaker 2: day of competition at the Paris Olympic Games. Thanks so

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Speaker 2: much for listening in this afternoon. It's been great fun

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Speaker 2: chatting to you both about the Olympics, the All Blacks

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Speaker 2: and everything else in between. Huge thanks to Andy McDonald

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Speaker 2: for pulling together the show today and yesterday too. We're

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Speaker 2: working through a bunch of different time zones at the moment,

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Speaker 2: so it's a little bit challenging, but thanks mate, terrific

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Speaker 2: heavy lifting from you, and thanks indeed to you for

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Speaker 2: listening in as well. It's been a privilege as always

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Speaker 2: to bring the radio show to you next weekend. I

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Speaker 2: presume anyway, I'm having a guess here, the show will

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Speaker 2: come to you from Eden Park next Saturday for the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks against Argentina. Were secured that commentary position? Have

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Speaker 2: we for the show? Andy?

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Speaker 13: I hope? So all right.

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Speaker 2: I haven't put any work in behind the scenes, so

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Speaker 2: that I never put it. No y, Actually, I tell

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Speaker 2: a lie.

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Speaker 12: I always put in the work.

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Speaker 2: I'll get it sordered for you finding it. Thank you Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon song to

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Speaker 2: go out. I loved all the gold medals overnight. I

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Speaker 2: love Dame Lisa, love Lydia Cove, but I think most

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Speaker 2: of all I loved Hamish Curve leaping into our sporting history.

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Speaker 2: This was another breakdancing one. You can if you you can,

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Speaker 2: you can call it that if you like. I certainly

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Speaker 2: I'm not giving a nod to B Gills and B

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Speaker 2: Gills and boys from the boom Box, from the boombox,

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Speaker 2: the ghetto blaster. Now this is simply titled Jump by

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Speaker 2: Criss Cross. We're back on Sports Talk tomorrow night.

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Speaker 8: Till you see then.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live

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Speaker 1: to news Talks at B Weekends from midday, or follow

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Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.