1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: So the big news is India and the Prime Minister 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: has met with India's PM Narendra Modi in New Delhi 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: and we'll be talking with Mike Hosking shortly. Of course. 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister has been leading a delegation into India 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: this week and has announced free trade negotiations will begin 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: next month. And that announcement came as soon as they landed. Basically, 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: Tom McClay was already there. I mean he lives there 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: now basically, and this is great for lux and politically 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: well at least he was thought so. So both leaders 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: have signed memorandums of understanding and key areas like defense, 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: education and forestry. And the New Zealand Herald political reporter 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Adam Pearce has been traveling to India and has witnessed 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing and joins you, now, hello, Adam good a, 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: how are you good? That welcome for Christopher Luxen was 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: quite something. 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly was. It's true what they say about 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: India being a bit of an assault on the census 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: when you first kind of land. But no, certainly it 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: has been all go since really minute one. We have 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: had free trade negotiations confirmed as resuming as of next month. 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it was really something that us as reporters 22 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: traveling with the Prime minister, we were expecting that to 23 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: escually was going to be an announcement. It was going 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: to come towards the ends, you know, after there's been 25 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: some talks, and particularly after or at least after Prime 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: Mister Christopher Luxon had met with Prime Minister Mody, so 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 2: certainly set the tone for the trip. And it's really 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: continued with the meeting that we've had with Prime Minister 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: Mody today India time was yesterday in New Zealm time, 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: which seems to have gone gone pretty well. The pir 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: seemed to get on. They've spent quite a bit of 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: time together actually today with a couple of events that 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: ordinarily you wouldn't actually expect someone like Prime Minister Modi 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: to take pat in. So we're good signs for reluxtion. 35 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and he In fact, Christopher Luxson spoke at 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: India's Premier Defense and Security conference today just a few 37 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: minutes ago. Really and this is the first time a 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: foreigner has been invited to address the conference. So how 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: big a deal was that? 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, not quite the first time that foreigners addressed 41 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: the conference has been a couple of others, but it's 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: kind of it is primarily European leaders, so certainly significant 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: that we've got Christopher Luxon and the addressing, addressing a 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: crowd full of whether there's several heads of government there, 45 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: a lot of foreign ministers. He actually gave a pretty 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: good speak was it was probably about twenty minutes talking 47 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: about New Zealand's relationship with India, advertise there how they're 48 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: looking to boost defense cooperation, but also how New Zealand 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: and how Christopher Luxeon sees the world evolving, particularly as 50 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: we see what's going on with the US and Donald 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: Trump's trade war, what we're seeing with China, and how 52 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: particularly in the Pacific moving in in area, so especially 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 2: with the Cook Islands, Solomon Islands. I think so really 54 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: interesting to see his take on there. And it's quite 55 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: a form as well. This is India's premiere defense and 56 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: security conference, and he held himself pretty well. You know, 57 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: sometimes lux And as we've seen, struggles to can struggle 58 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: to hit the right notes sometimes, but I mean this 59 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: was a big deal for him to take on that role, 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: big deal to take on that speech, and I think 61 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: he's managed himself pretty well. 62 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: So going forward, what do these memorandums of understanding actually mean. 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: Oh look, I mean you can put as much value 64 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: to them as you like, but they simply signal priority areas. 65 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: You know, so education as an obvious one, right, and 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: education has been one of the main attractions for New 67 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: Zealand to attract people from India. You know, our quality 68 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: education facilities, and you know areas like tourism, sport in particular, 69 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: very proud sporting relationship between the two countries. So you know, 70 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 2: it really just does signal the way forward, the priority areas. 71 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: And rocketry obviously in defense and also their space aspirations 72 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: and not dairy which you can understand they don't need 73 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: us now, but they might need us in the future. 74 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing we've often heard from christ Lux 75 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: in the days, you know, from when this trip started, 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: about how India's population is changing. It's becoming more wealthy, 77 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: there are more people entering that middle class and therefore, 78 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: you know, those those specific niche markets that dairy can 79 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: can access will become bigger, offering up opportunities. However, you know, 80 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: the majority of the dairy industry here in India, small 81 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: scale farming outfits. And as we've known, both past negotiations 82 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: have not been successful because they want to protect their market. 83 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: So it'll come. Who knows when. 84 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly right. Dairy came in twenty years after the 85 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: Chinese Free Trade Dealer, and it will come. They've got 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: three hundred million towns and India low yields two liter 87 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: a cow. We're at like eight. They will need. 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: Us for more. From Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen 89 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: live to News Talks it be from five am weekdays, 90 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio