1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Government is saying yes please to woolen insulation and carpets 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: and government buildings over synthetic materials. From July. All government 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: buildings worth more than nine million dollars and refurbishments with 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: the price tag of one hundred thousand dollars or more 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: must use KIWI will quote where possible. This is all 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: part of the New Zealand First coalition. Dear Winston, Peter's 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: proud as punch. 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: We are proud as a government as a party to 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: back our farmers and rural sectors and there many thousands 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: of workers. We are putting New Zealand wool first again. 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Kara Biggs is with the campaign for wool here and 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: she's with me now. 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 2: Hikara, Hello, Ryan, thanks for having us. 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: You happy as Winston is? 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: I think maybe can we be happier, really ecstatic about this. 16 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: It's amazing. 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: What about the nine million dollars? You know they're going 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: to have to build buildings worth more than nine million dollars. 19 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: How many of those are they doing well? 20 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: It's hard to say at the moment, but what they 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: are doing is they are absolutely making sure that agencies 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: within the government are making sure that they prioritize wool 23 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: products within all of their builds. And not only that, 24 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean Nicola Wallace also willis Sorry also said that 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: she is asking agencies to report against why they haven't 26 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: chosen wools, so they really they don't really have a 27 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: get out of jail free card. Yeah. 28 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I was going to say, there is that language still 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: around you know where possible. I think it says or 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: as appropriate. Are you worried about that? 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: So honestly I was, But having heard the three of 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: them speak today, not so much. They will be asking 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: for reports. They say, wool stacks up. They say it's 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: a value conversation. Now it's not a cost conversation. And 35 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: it's a long term play. So it's not just about 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 2: how much this is going to cost now, it's what's 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: the value for money in the long term. So now 38 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 2: very much less worried about that. 39 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Wool is so good for so many different reasons. And 40 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I say this as the son in law of a 41 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: sheep and beef farmer who and so I've kind of 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: learned over the last few years. But can you just 43 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: tell us even the flammable qualities you put a match 44 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: up to a lighter up to this over the synthetic stuff. 45 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: It's day night. 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. So if you put a 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: match up to a synthetic product, it will basically melt, 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: and it melts in a big gooey mess. It can 49 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: melt onto skin. It causes all sorts of issues. If 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: you have a wool product, it will ignite at a 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: very high temperature, but to start with, it basically scorches. 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: And that's why as kids we were all given you know, 53 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: woolen back blankets on the end of our bed so 54 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: that we could wrap ourselves up at them and you know, 55 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: run out of a house fire will it will scorch, 56 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: but it will not burn until it is a very 57 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: very high ignition point. 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: How much do you reckon it might be worth kara 59 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: something like this. 60 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: Millions and millions. So basically it's not just what the 61 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: government has put in front of us. So I think 62 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: Minister Patterson said we could easily double exports with this. 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: Now obviously this isn't an export conversation, but what this 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: will do is it will start to create more and 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: more demand. So growers, manufacturers, brands, they will all read 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: the benefits, the financial benefits from this decision. 67 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Today Cara, appreciate your time. Thank you very much. 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