1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Ever do for z Ellens. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 2: Act Party leader David Seymour has announced he wants to 3 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: slash the number of ministers and ministries. He's pointed out 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 2: that we have more ministers than Ireland, which is a 5 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: country about the similar population, and even more than the UK, 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: which is a country with a much larger population. And 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: he's with us right now. 8 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: David, Hello, good a, Heather. 9 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Were you listening to the show yesterday. 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask if you were reading 11 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: the ACT Party's excellent publication Free Press about eight weeks ago, 12 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: because I saw a similar idea there too, and that's 13 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: what I thought when I was listening to your show yesterday. 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: As I am from four to seven. 15 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Every day, i'll listen to you. Well, now I have 16 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: to say yes, I read it absolutely every week. Wouldn't 17 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: go a week without missing it. Now, David, tell me 18 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: how this is going to work. Forty one government department. 19 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: You want to get it down to thirty. So what 20 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: do you cut? 21 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: Well, people are going to go straight to that, and 22 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to I've got a list and it 23 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: only has thirty on it. And that's what you need 24 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: to do. The things that most people would expect a 25 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: government to do. But I know as soon as I 26 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: start naming them, people are saying I'm trying to attack 27 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: their department, and it's all politically. I think we just 28 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: need to get this idea right because right now there 29 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: are ministers that have seven different departments. There are departments 30 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: such as MB that answer to nineteen different ministers. There 31 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: are portfolios. Just give you one example, not to pick 32 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: on it, but the minister for Auckland that Labor created 33 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: that there's no Auckland department, there's no Auckland vote in 34 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: the budget. It's just a made up thing, frankly, and 35 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: I think that really we should be moving to a 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: world where each department has only one minister, No portfolios 37 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: exist unless they have an actual department with a budget 38 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: and a thing to do, and there should be no 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: ministers outside of the cabinet. Everyone should be sitting around 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: at the same table. That's going to take a lot 41 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: of people making a concession, But if we could get there, 42 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: I think the whole thing would just get stuff done faster. 43 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: And a lot of people that say, look, you know, 44 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: why doesn't stuff happen quicker? It might be a little happier. 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: Right, Well, I mean I obviously love this, but how 46 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: realistic is it? 47 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Well, I don't believe it will happen before the election. 48 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: You know, Chris is the Prime Minister and he's set 49 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: the table and we agreed to that, so we're partner 50 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: to him about it. I an't passing, sure, but I 51 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: go into all our conversations. But I mean, I think you've. 52 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: Got from him, David. Has he thought it was a 53 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: brilliant idea or was he poop pooed it? 54 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: Well, Chris codis teeth as a manager, and I'm sure 55 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: that it's something that, without speaking for intuit if we get. However, 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't believe it will change before the election. I'd 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: love it too, I don't think it will. This is 58 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: the kind of thing where at a halftime point between 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: two elections we need to have a bit of a 60 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: team talk, say what's so on well and ask what 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: will we do differently in the future. 62 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: Brilliant Love it, David, Thanks very much, David Seymour as 63 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: Party leader. 64 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 65 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: News Talks it B from four pm weekdays, or follow 66 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.