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Speaker 2: I woke up with a rumbling feeling in my chest.

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Speaker 2: I thought this morning. I didn't think we were on

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Speaker 2: a flight path, but that's what it felt like. It

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Speaker 2: felt like a seven three seven was dipping low below

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Speaker 2: our house making its way into land. That was not

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Speaker 2: the case, though, No, no, no, it was thunder and

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Speaker 2: this really weird kind of sustained thunder across the Auckland

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Speaker 2: region this morning, so not just like a quick but

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Speaker 2: like a so he could really feel it in your bones. Yes,

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Speaker 2: spring is about to spring, except as not, of course.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people get really excited at

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Speaker 2: the start of September. They say spring is here. Spring

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Speaker 2: is not here. Spring is not here until the twenty

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Speaker 2: third of September. But I'm going to pitch you something

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Speaker 2: this morning. I'm going to pitch you that we we

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Speaker 2: invent a bit of creative rounding when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the seasons, because there is certainly plenty of blossom around

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Speaker 2: the place at the moment, and the tropical weather in

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Speaker 2: the northern parts of the country, the thunderstorms and the

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Speaker 2: lights certainly give us that springtime feeling. So here's my pitch.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to spring, we round ford. So at

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Speaker 2: the start of spring, instead of pretending it's the twenty third,

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Speaker 2: which it obviously is, we say, yeah, spring starts at

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Speaker 2: the start of September. But when it comes to winter,

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Speaker 2: we take the later date. Do you get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So we take the earlier date for spring, and then

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Speaker 2: when it starts to get colder, we can aside whether

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Speaker 2: it's automore winter. I'm flexible on that. But when it

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Speaker 2: comes to the call of months, we take the later date.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a simple solution, isn't it. So tomorrow

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Speaker 2: isn't technically spring, We're going to call it spring. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow is, however, Father's Day, and before ten o'clock on

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Speaker 2: or you just want to give them a bit of

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Speaker 2: a more personal treat as well. As that our feature

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Speaker 2: interview this morning. Cannot wait for this longtime friend of

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Speaker 2: the show, legendary New Zealand athlete Sophie Pasco is going

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Speaker 2: to be with us in studio, so that is really exciting.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it's nine minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Jack Team.

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Speaker 2: So I've got this photo right from the night of

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Speaker 2: the US election in twenty sixteen. The US election eight

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Speaker 2: years ago. It was a graffiti stencil taken right outside

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Speaker 2: where Hillary Clinton hoped she would be having a celebration

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Speaker 2: party in a few hours time. It was right on

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Speaker 2: the Hudson River in New York City. Hillary Clinton was

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Speaker 2: the favorite to win the election. Of course that wasn't

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Speaker 2: the case. But there was a bit of paint on

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Speaker 2: the sidewalk where all the delegates and supporters and media

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Speaker 2: were walking in to see the celebration party that wasn't

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Speaker 2: to be, with Clinton's silhouette and a simple phrase underneath

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Speaker 2: right the stencil said, I'm with her. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to apologize, but two months ago, I am all in

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Speaker 2: on the US election. I'm all into it. Every morning

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Speaker 2: I wake up and I read every single story. I

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Speaker 2: inject all of those developments straight into my veins. But

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Speaker 2: I was reminded of that Hillary Clinton stencil I'm with

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Speaker 2: her as I watched Kamala Harris's first and only TV

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Speaker 2: interview so far as the Democrats nominee. So the interview

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Speaker 2: nothing too exciting, nothing too scandalous. I don't think it

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Speaker 2: major way. But perhaps yep was the most telling bit

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Speaker 2: from a strategic sense. At the very least was Karmala

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Speaker 2: Harris's response when she was asked about Donald Trump questioning

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Speaker 2: her black identity. Harris paused and said, just a few words,

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Speaker 2: same old tired playbook, next question, please.

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Speaker 4: That was it.

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Speaker 5: That was it.

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Speaker 2: She was served up a prime opportunity to talk at

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Speaker 2: length about her identity, and a different candidate might have

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Speaker 2: talked about America's history of racial oppression. She might have

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Speaker 2: recalled other occasions when people sought to undermine her through

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Speaker 2: But not none of that, zilch nothing, not a word

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Speaker 2: on identity, Next question, please, I just reckon as a candidate,

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Speaker 2: Krmala Harris has heaps of flaws, right, plenty of flaws.

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Speaker 2: For now, she's just getting by on vibes other than specifics,

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Speaker 2: and honestly, from the Democrats' perspective, I don't think that matters.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter one bit. She's certainly proving popular than Biden.

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Speaker 2: And Donald Trump is such a polarizing figure. People love

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. No One just feels kind

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Speaker 2: of ambivalent about Donald Trump. No one's six out of

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Speaker 2: ten on Donald Trump. It just means that any election

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Speaker 2: to be an election that focuses on policy. It just

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Speaker 2: focuses on Trump, right, And I think that in Kamala

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Speaker 2: extremely well is not talking about identity. If she wins,

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Speaker 2: she would be the first woman president, she would be

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Speaker 2: the first black woman president, she'd be the first South Asian.

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Speaker 2: All of these things are historic and arguably significant, but

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Speaker 2: they're also self evident, and I just I think it's

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Speaker 2: really notable that she and her supporters and other high

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Speaker 2: that interview, you look at that question, you look at

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Speaker 2: that opportunity to talk about identity, and I thought it

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Speaker 2: was incredible how she immediately shut it down. And I

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Speaker 2: just contrast that with Hillary Clinton eight years ago, when

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Speaker 2: so much of the campaign centered on the possibility of

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Speaker 2: her becoming America's first woman president. Krmala Harris has chosen

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Speaker 2: a different message. Instead of I'm with her, she's chosen

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Speaker 2: I'm not him.

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Speaker 3: Jack Team ninety two.

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Speaker 2: Ninety two is the text number. You can email me

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Speaker 2: from the US election and the run up to November,

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Speaker 2: which is just it's going to be an experience, to

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Speaker 2: say the very least. Before ten o'clock this morning, our

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Speaker 2: Zealand film, We Were Dangerous. Next up, Kevin Merlin will

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Speaker 2: get us underway. It's fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame.

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Speaker 2: It's Saturday morning and this is news talk.

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Speaker 1: Zi's no better way to kick off your weekend than

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Speaker 2: Be Thank you for your feedback. Deans flip me a

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Speaker 2: note to say Jack, good thinking. I have been season

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Speaker 2: rounding for some decades now. So spring and summer start

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Speaker 2: Autumn on the autumnal equinox, and winter the solstice. Maximize

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Speaker 2: what you like, Minimize what you don't like. I like that, Dean,

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Speaker 2: although you know I don't want to slag off the

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Speaker 2: I like to. I like to experience all seasons, you know.

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Speaker 2: I think it makes you value you know, who would

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Speaker 2: I like to. I think you value the warmer weather

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Speaker 2: Newstalks dB dot co dot Nz. Kevin Milne, is it

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Speaker 5: I love the rain. I love it and it's good

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Speaker 5: isn't it. You know, when rain comes down, it's going

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Speaker 5: to be doing, by and large, a hell of a

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Speaker 5: lot of good.

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Speaker 5: It's going to help our gardens, it's going to provide

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Speaker 5: water for drinking, all these sorts of things. What I

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Speaker 5: don't like is wind.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, cool, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean I know it disperses seeds and that sort

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Speaker 5: of stuff. What the hell does it do?

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Speaker 2: or something. It probably dries things out a little bit

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I don't know. I don't know me.

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Speaker 2: You guys have just got to You've got a fancy

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Speaker 2: new dryer system. It's good for the washing sometimes, Kevin, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't mind a bit of wind that like. I

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Speaker 2: it's a big, really gusty wind. Doesn't doesn't bother me

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Speaker 2: too much. But yeah, I'm with you. I'm a fan

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Speaker 2: rounding the seasons to suit us. But Kevin, you even

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Speaker 5: Sophie Pasco And I'm not talking about her swimming but

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Speaker 5: her television presenting along with Scottish Stevenson. She's fronting the

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Speaker 5: she's done little to no live presenting before, but she's

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Speaker 5: encouraging and positive, but you'd swear she had been selected

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Speaker 5: seen the jack?

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Speaker 2: Is she doing an exceptional job. I think for someone

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Speaker 5: Yes she is. And I'm going to say I've got

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Speaker 5: a bit of a sprite this morning, but I found

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Speaker 5: that you were actually interviewing. I think I better just

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Speaker 5: it can only be positive and it's fantastic. Really. In fact,

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Speaker 5: I wondered whether I shouldn't talk about something else entirely

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Speaker 5: because it sounds what I'm about to say. It sounds

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Speaker 5: like I'm just promoting the latter part of your show,

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Speaker 2: Don't be afraid of that.

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Speaker 5: Well, the thing about going out to the country live

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Speaker 5: very few presenters can nail that straight away. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Sophie Pasco has not even done an apprenticeship as a

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Speaker 5: non live presenter. She's been a swimmer. My first experience

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Speaker 5: It frightens the hell out of you, especially if you

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Speaker 5: think of how many people are watching. I'm so nervous

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Speaker 5: in control of the nerves. So I'd be interesting to

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Speaker 2: tweet something right, so nice and nice and like snappy,

431
00:23:17,333 --> 00:23:21,133
Speaker 2: good storytelling. But also I think that point about the

432
00:23:21,173 --> 00:23:24,053
Speaker 2: way in which it manages to deal with very heavy

433
00:23:24,133 --> 00:23:27,613
Speaker 2: themes but not in a way that's kind of preachy

434
00:23:27,853 --> 00:23:30,533
Speaker 2: or feels heavy. I don't know how to articulate that

435
00:23:31,573 --> 00:23:35,573
Speaker 2: anymore succinctly, but there are these really heavy, timely important

436
00:23:35,613 --> 00:23:38,133
Speaker 2: themes about abuse and stakecare, all of this kind of stuff,

437
00:23:38,373 --> 00:23:40,933
Speaker 2: but it's kind of done with. There's a real lightness

438
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Speaker 2: to it.

439
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Speaker 8: And look, you'll know, Jack, I never talk about endings

440
00:23:44,493 --> 00:23:46,813
Speaker 8: of films. I'm very very many will talk about an

441
00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:49,413
Speaker 8: ending of a film. But this film you walk out

442
00:23:50,013 --> 00:23:51,973
Speaker 8: just with the smile on your face and a little

443
00:23:52,133 --> 00:23:54,733
Speaker 8: skip in your step and thinking it's not so bad

444
00:23:54,773 --> 00:23:57,133
Speaker 8: being rebellious, you know what I mean. Like it you

445
00:23:57,293 --> 00:24:00,813
Speaker 8: leave uplifted and kind of you know, as opposed to

446
00:24:00,893 --> 00:24:04,053
Speaker 8: just go, oh my gosh, you know, yeah, it's just

447
00:24:04,093 --> 00:24:06,733
Speaker 8: horrible and terrible, you know. So I think that it's

448
00:24:06,773 --> 00:24:09,613
Speaker 8: something that Josephine's just balanced really really nicely. Is the

449
00:24:09,653 --> 00:24:11,973
Speaker 8: heaviness with the lightness, just getting that balance right, and

450
00:24:12,013 --> 00:24:12,893
Speaker 8: that's really hard to do.

451
00:24:13,253 --> 00:24:15,853
Speaker 2: I well, see, okay, so that's we were dangerous. It

452
00:24:15,973 --> 00:24:19,133
Speaker 2: is in cinemas. Now, let's haven't listened to another film

453
00:24:19,173 --> 00:24:21,853
Speaker 2: showing at the theater at the moment. This is Midas Man.

454
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Speaker 3: Hello, my name is Brian Epstein. Hello, my name is

455
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Speaker 3: John Lennon.

456
00:24:30,293 --> 00:24:31,253
Speaker 2: My name is Paul.

457
00:24:33,373 --> 00:24:39,173
Speaker 3: George Pete. First I saw it on a stage. I

458
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Speaker 3: shall never forget it.

459
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Speaker 1: I want to represent you be a manager, but you've

460
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Speaker 1: got to experience mister Brian.

461
00:24:48,613 --> 00:24:52,573
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Midas Man, a story that feels relatively familiar.

462
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Speaker 8: Yes, so this is the story of the first Beatle,

463
00:24:56,293 --> 00:24:58,173
Speaker 8: Brian Epstein, who was their manager.

464
00:24:58,733 --> 00:25:01,013
Speaker 12: And he is Brian.

465
00:25:00,813 --> 00:25:05,053
Speaker 8: Is this lovely, sort of closeted, gay Jewish young man

466
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Speaker 8: who runs the family record stores. And in nineteen sixty one,

467
00:25:08,253 --> 00:25:10,493
Speaker 8: get this, he goes to a lunchtime gig. I want

468
00:25:10,493 --> 00:25:12,413
Speaker 8: to bring back lunchtime gigs. I think that would be

469
00:25:12,413 --> 00:25:16,413
Speaker 8: so much fun to see this unknown band called the Beatles.

470
00:25:16,413 --> 00:25:18,653
Speaker 8: They're playing in Liverpool, and he just looks around and

471
00:25:18,693 --> 00:25:22,133
Speaker 8: he goes, these guys have something and off we go.

472
00:25:22,373 --> 00:25:25,213
Speaker 8: And he approaches them and asks if you know he

473
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Speaker 8: could be their manager, and they tease him quite a

474
00:25:29,053 --> 00:25:32,773
Speaker 8: lot with about his poshways, but yeah, off they go

475
00:25:32,813 --> 00:25:35,893
Speaker 8: on this journey. So it is it is a relationship

476
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Speaker 8: that kind of saw this band become one of the

477
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Speaker 8: biggest bands in the world. And you sort of see

478
00:25:40,893 --> 00:25:43,813
Speaker 8: Brian he just had these incredible instincts. He just understood

479
00:25:43,813 --> 00:25:46,973
Speaker 8: the potential of the Beatles. He got great deals, he

480
00:25:47,533 --> 00:25:50,533
Speaker 8: knew what was needed to kind of break them internationally,

481
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Speaker 8: and so that's what we kind of get that look

482
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Speaker 8: behind the scenes of It doesn't show away from his

483
00:25:56,413 --> 00:26:00,973
Speaker 8: struggle with addiction in gambling and his sexuality. Obviously, the

484
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:03,533
Speaker 8: huge success that the Beatles have that comes with a

485
00:26:03,613 --> 00:26:05,653
Speaker 8: huge amount of stress and a huge amount of struggles,

486
00:26:05,653 --> 00:26:08,813
Speaker 8: so you kind of see all that taking place. It's

487
00:26:08,933 --> 00:26:12,173
Speaker 8: very much about him as opposed to the Beatles and

488
00:26:12,213 --> 00:26:16,373
Speaker 8: how they sort of dealt with fame. It's very actually,

489
00:26:16,493 --> 00:26:19,573
Speaker 8: Jack very little Beatles music in this film, which may

490
00:26:19,613 --> 00:26:21,893
Speaker 8: have been an issue about getting the rights for it.

491
00:26:22,573 --> 00:26:24,733
Speaker 8: Look in this in general, I think this story is

492
00:26:24,773 --> 00:26:27,533
Speaker 8: told well. It is a great story, a fascinating story

493
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Speaker 8: to tell.

494
00:26:28,333 --> 00:26:29,093
Speaker 11: They've tried to.

495
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Speaker 8: Kind of lighten it up and tell it in an

496
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Speaker 8: interesting way, and occasionally the fourth wall was broken down

497
00:26:34,133 --> 00:26:35,973
Speaker 8: and Brian talks directly to us, and it tries to

498
00:26:36,013 --> 00:26:38,533
Speaker 8: have sort of once again a lightness to it. But

499
00:26:38,573 --> 00:26:40,253
Speaker 8: I'm not sure they quite nailed the balance.

500
00:26:40,293 --> 00:26:41,013
Speaker 2: I felt like this.

501
00:26:41,013 --> 00:26:43,413
Speaker 8: Film we actually did need to go into a little

502
00:26:43,413 --> 00:26:48,373
Speaker 8: bit more depth as to what was happening. Yeah, a

503
00:26:49,373 --> 00:26:51,453
Speaker 8: fun look at a period in time that a lot

504
00:26:51,493 --> 00:26:52,213
Speaker 8: of people.

505
00:26:52,133 --> 00:26:54,253
Speaker 2: Will remember and enjoy. I mean far back from me

506
00:26:54,293 --> 00:26:56,933
Speaker 2: to judge something from twelve seconds of trailer that we're

507
00:26:56,973 --> 00:27:00,733
Speaker 2: only listen to, but no, but give it a go. Well,

508
00:27:00,773 --> 00:27:03,893
Speaker 2: it just it sounded like it sounded like the actual

509
00:27:04,133 --> 00:27:06,533
Speaker 2: the band members, but Paul McCartney and John then or

510
00:27:06,533 --> 00:27:07,733
Speaker 2: maybe a little hammed up.

511
00:27:10,733 --> 00:27:10,933
Speaker 13: Yah.

512
00:27:11,013 --> 00:27:14,333
Speaker 8: Yeah, possibly, And I'm not sure we really sort of

513
00:27:14,533 --> 00:27:17,013
Speaker 8: got I think we learn more about Brian than we

514
00:27:17,093 --> 00:27:21,133
Speaker 8: did necessarily about his relationship with them. It's sort of

515
00:27:21,173 --> 00:27:24,213
Speaker 8: like almost behind the scenes of how they became.

516
00:27:23,933 --> 00:27:26,893
Speaker 2: World famous, right, Okay, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, Well,

517
00:27:26,973 --> 00:27:29,533
Speaker 2: lunchtime gigs previously a thing? Was that a well.

518
00:27:29,453 --> 00:27:31,533
Speaker 8: Apparently, I don't know. I never I'd never heard of

519
00:27:31,573 --> 00:27:34,573
Speaker 8: lunchtime gigs, but it's quite fun. How good half of

520
00:27:34,613 --> 00:27:36,173
Speaker 8: us kind of step away from our desk to have

521
00:27:36,213 --> 00:27:36,973
Speaker 8: our lunch these days.

522
00:27:37,013 --> 00:27:37,893
Speaker 14: But that's how good we go.

523
00:27:38,253 --> 00:27:39,733
Speaker 8: I'm just popping out for half an how to see

524
00:27:39,733 --> 00:27:41,813
Speaker 8: some young band, and how invigorated would you go back

525
00:27:41,813 --> 00:27:42,133
Speaker 8: to work?

526
00:27:42,173 --> 00:27:47,973
Speaker 2: I think it would be great if.

527
00:27:45,973 --> 00:27:46,613
Speaker 13: Your world d're in.

528
00:27:46,933 --> 00:27:50,653
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's probably pretty obvious reasons why there's

529
00:27:50,693 --> 00:27:52,173
Speaker 8: a lot of bands that are like younger to play

530
00:27:52,173 --> 00:27:52,533
Speaker 8: behalf in.

531
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Speaker 15: Our lunch time.

532
00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:55,733
Speaker 8: Yeah, and we wouldn't have the time really to do it,

533
00:27:55,813 --> 00:27:57,613
Speaker 8: but it is quite fun. Yeah, they went down into

534
00:27:57,613 --> 00:27:59,493
Speaker 8: the sort of dark, dark venue.

535
00:28:00,253 --> 00:28:01,373
Speaker 11: Yeah band at lunchtime.

536
00:28:01,373 --> 00:28:03,333
Speaker 2: And we used to do it at schools, you know,

537
00:28:03,413 --> 00:28:07,133
Speaker 2: like our school school bands would do it nice ill

538
00:28:07,133 --> 00:28:09,453
Speaker 2: fated school band. You had a couple of big lunchtime

539
00:28:09,533 --> 00:28:14,533
Speaker 2: gigs over the years. We're still talking about those today. No,

540
00:28:14,653 --> 00:28:16,533
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think it's a good idea. I'm into it,

541
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Speaker 2: very good. Okay, that's minus man, Thank you, Franciscap. That's

542
00:28:20,213 --> 00:28:22,853
Speaker 2: showing in cinemas now, so as We Were Dangerous, Jack

543
00:28:22,893 --> 00:28:24,933
Speaker 2: says Laura. I saw that film We Were Dangerous last

544
00:28:24,933 --> 00:28:27,053
Speaker 2: week and team I really enjoyed it. It is a

545
00:28:27,093 --> 00:28:31,373
Speaker 2: great New Zealand film. So Laura adds to Francesca's recommendation,

546
00:28:31,453 --> 00:28:33,693
Speaker 2: there go along and see We Were Dangerous. Right now,

547
00:28:33,773 --> 00:28:36,053
Speaker 2: it is seventeen minutes to ten. If you are looking

548
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Speaker 2: for something good to cook for your dad tomorrow morning,

549
00:28:38,733 --> 00:28:40,813
Speaker 2: a bit of a treat for Father's Day, boy, do

550
00:28:40,853 --> 00:28:42,453
Speaker 2: we have the recipe for you next.

551
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Speaker 2: Sophie Pasco has been competing in every Paralympics for the

555
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Speaker 2: last like sixteen years. It is crazy. This is her

556
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Speaker 2: first Paralympics in a long time that she isn't competing.

557
00:29:03,293 --> 00:29:07,013
Speaker 2: She is behind the mic in front of the camera instead.

558
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Speaker 2: But she has had quite an interesting couple of years.

559
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Speaker 2: So she's recently become a mum and that has had

560
00:29:13,453 --> 00:29:16,573
Speaker 2: some amazing experiences but also some challenges. I'm going to

561
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Speaker 2: talk to her about that after ten o'clock. She's going

562
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Speaker 2: to be with us in studio and cannot wait for

563
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Speaker 2: that conversation right now, though it's called at a ten

564
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Speaker 2: Father's Day tomorrow, of course, and if you're leaving things

565
00:29:26,093 --> 00:29:28,133
Speaker 2: kind of late, but you want to give your dad

566
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Speaker 2: a bit of a treat on Father's Day morning, NICKI

567
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Speaker 2: wacks our cook has the recipe for you?

568
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Speaker 9: Kielder, Yes, Maurena, I certainly do. And it's not too

569
00:29:37,933 --> 00:29:39,213
Speaker 9: late to think about it.

570
00:29:39,533 --> 00:29:41,653
Speaker 2: Do you know what I was going through this? Because yeah,

571
00:29:41,733 --> 00:29:44,093
Speaker 2: you hear mint on toast, right, and you think, oh yeah,

572
00:29:44,213 --> 00:29:46,373
Speaker 2: but then you think fancy mint on toast with chili,

573
00:29:46,413 --> 00:29:48,613
Speaker 2: onions and egg, and then I go through that, I

574
00:29:48,653 --> 00:29:50,173
Speaker 2: go through the ingredients which I'm not going to give

575
00:29:50,173 --> 00:29:52,893
Speaker 2: away just yet, and I think, oh, man, that looks

576
00:29:52,933 --> 00:29:55,013
Speaker 2: like a bit of me on a say that looks

577
00:29:55,013 --> 00:29:55,653
Speaker 2: like a big bit of me.

578
00:29:56,213 --> 00:29:56,493
Speaker 11: Yeah.

579
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Speaker 9: And I don't know about you, but if I'm at

580
00:29:58,213 --> 00:30:01,373
Speaker 9: a cafe and there is Minson toast on their breakfast

581
00:30:01,413 --> 00:30:03,693
Speaker 9: slash brunch menu, I'm straight there.

582
00:30:03,733 --> 00:30:06,173
Speaker 11: I don't even look at anything else by a dormance.

583
00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:09,773
Speaker 9: It's a buttery piece of toast. It's left over from

584
00:30:09,773 --> 00:30:10,213
Speaker 9: my youth.

585
00:30:10,253 --> 00:30:11,333
Speaker 11: I just I just adore it.

586
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:13,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good, nothing with it, okay?

587
00:30:13,813 --> 00:30:15,973
Speaker 9: So look and look, it's really great if you were

588
00:30:16,013 --> 00:30:19,213
Speaker 9: to make this today, because it does age well. I

589
00:30:19,293 --> 00:30:21,973
Speaker 9: always think things like this kind of tastes better on

590
00:30:21,973 --> 00:30:23,853
Speaker 9: the second day in some ways. And you don't really

591
00:30:23,893 --> 00:30:26,373
Speaker 9: want to be whipping this up tomorrow morning for brunch, So.

592
00:30:26,733 --> 00:30:27,373
Speaker 11: Make it today.

593
00:30:27,653 --> 00:30:30,573
Speaker 9: All the ingredients, though they're they sort of sound anxiety,

594
00:30:30,613 --> 00:30:32,093
Speaker 9: you should be able to find them everywhere.

595
00:30:32,133 --> 00:30:34,013
Speaker 11: So look, I start off by heating out.

596
00:30:34,053 --> 00:30:37,253
Speaker 9: I do this in a big saucepan, a big pot,

597
00:30:38,133 --> 00:30:39,773
Speaker 9: and you want to brown the mintsoff and you want

598
00:30:39,813 --> 00:30:41,453
Speaker 9: to do a little bit of quality olive oil if

599
00:30:41,493 --> 00:30:43,373
Speaker 9: you care, or some other oil it doesn't really matter,

600
00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:45,253
Speaker 9: but probably not butter because it'll burn.

601
00:30:46,013 --> 00:30:47,453
Speaker 11: You want to brown. That means to get a little

602
00:30:47,453 --> 00:30:48,173
Speaker 11: bit of flavor in it.

603
00:30:48,253 --> 00:30:49,893
Speaker 9: Jack just you don't you don't have to go all out,

604
00:30:49,973 --> 00:30:51,293
Speaker 9: but you just want a little bit of it so

605
00:30:51,373 --> 00:30:53,653
Speaker 9: that you kind of get some color, so that you

606
00:30:53,653 --> 00:30:56,373
Speaker 9: don't have one of those gray mints episodes, because that's

607
00:30:56,413 --> 00:30:59,373
Speaker 9: not going to say Happy Father's Day. And I break

608
00:30:59,413 --> 00:31:01,773
Speaker 9: it up with a fork as it cooks. But first

609
00:31:01,813 --> 00:31:03,533
Speaker 9: of all, let it kind of cook and stick to

610
00:31:03,573 --> 00:31:05,533
Speaker 9: the bottom of your pot, and that'll brown it up

611
00:31:05,573 --> 00:31:09,013
Speaker 9: a little bit. Then I add some graded carrot. I've

612
00:31:09,093 --> 00:31:11,373
Speaker 9: used two graded carrots, one to pad out your mints,

613
00:31:11,373 --> 00:31:14,373
Speaker 9: because you've bought good quality mints, but also it gives

614
00:31:14,413 --> 00:31:16,453
Speaker 9: it color and it gives it a little sweetness, which

615
00:31:16,493 --> 00:31:18,653
Speaker 9: is really nice. I chuck a bay leaf in there.

616
00:31:18,973 --> 00:31:21,773
Speaker 9: Bay leaves are a really wonderful kind of what I

617
00:31:21,813 --> 00:31:25,333
Speaker 9: refer to as a grounding flavor, So they really kind

618
00:31:25,333 --> 00:31:27,453
Speaker 9: of ground a dish, and everything else can kind of

619
00:31:27,533 --> 00:31:29,973
Speaker 9: dance around it, which is great. I've gone a cord

620
00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:31,893
Speaker 9: a coup of red wine because my dad loves his

621
00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:35,213
Speaker 9: red wine. But you could use sort of a tablespoon

622
00:31:35,333 --> 00:31:40,053
Speaker 9: or two of balsamic vinegar. You could also use worster sauce,

623
00:31:40,653 --> 00:31:43,013
Speaker 9: or you could use maybe a tablespoon off soy sauce

624
00:31:43,013 --> 00:31:45,253
Speaker 9: will get you there too, So just something like that

625
00:31:45,373 --> 00:31:47,133
Speaker 9: is kind of nice game color flavor.

626
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:47,573
Speaker 11: All of that.

627
00:31:47,853 --> 00:31:49,813
Speaker 9: Cook it for three to four minutes. Then add in

628
00:31:49,813 --> 00:31:54,373
Speaker 9: your tomatoes. I've used a good tin of tinned chopped tomatoes.

629
00:31:54,653 --> 00:31:56,853
Speaker 9: Whatever you like really there. I do tend to buy

630
00:31:56,853 --> 00:31:59,973
Speaker 9: the muoty ones. Yes, they're about fifty cents more for

631
00:32:00,013 --> 00:32:02,133
Speaker 9: a can, but they're so delicious and they're all broken

632
00:32:02,213 --> 00:32:05,373
Speaker 9: up really nicely, and then you just want to sim

633
00:32:05,373 --> 00:32:08,013
Speaker 9: of that for about twenty thirty minutes. I do a

634
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:11,733
Speaker 9: little combo of lid on lid off kind of thing.

635
00:32:12,213 --> 00:32:13,533
Speaker 9: I start off with the lid on and then I

636
00:32:13,613 --> 00:32:15,693
Speaker 9: reduce it a little bit with the lid off, Taste

637
00:32:15,733 --> 00:32:17,213
Speaker 9: it for a bit of seasoning, and I add a

638
00:32:17,213 --> 00:32:19,613
Speaker 9: bit of salt and pepper in there. Obviously, while the

639
00:32:19,733 --> 00:32:23,973
Speaker 9: mince is cooking, chop some onions, nice thin slices going

640
00:32:24,013 --> 00:32:26,573
Speaker 9: from tip to root, not across the onion.

641
00:32:26,293 --> 00:32:28,653
Speaker 11: Because if you do it tip to root, it'll cook faster.

642
00:32:29,133 --> 00:32:31,013
Speaker 9: And you want to fry those in some butter or

643
00:32:31,093 --> 00:32:33,973
Speaker 9: oil or a combo, get some really good color on them.

644
00:32:34,093 --> 00:32:36,813
Speaker 9: Jack you want them to you know that, you don't

645
00:32:36,853 --> 00:32:38,813
Speaker 9: want them just kind of softened. You want them to

646
00:32:38,853 --> 00:32:40,213
Speaker 9: actually have some color on them.

647
00:32:40,213 --> 00:32:41,893
Speaker 11: And then add in a bit of a chopped chili

648
00:32:42,413 --> 00:32:45,293
Speaker 11: or even some chili flags and set those aside.

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Speaker 9: And then you're going to use that pan to also

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Speaker 9: fry your eggs, so the eggs will also have that kind.

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Speaker 11: Of oniony flavor to them.

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Speaker 9: Plate that you have a nice little bit a bit

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Speaker 9: of toast, little dollup of mince on there. You put

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Speaker 9: fried egg on there, your chili onion mix, you say,

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Speaker 9: I love you so much, dad, And there you go.

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Speaker 9: You can sprinkle it with a bit of chive, a

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Speaker 9: bit of pass there if you really want to get

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Speaker 9: flash on it.

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Speaker 11: But it's good cheek telling it.

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Speaker 2: It looks cheeky good. So what do you think are

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Speaker 2: you thinking? Is this a chibata? We've got a sourt though?

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking?

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Speaker 11: You said, shapato.

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Speaker 9: I think it depends on the age of your dad's teeth. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 9: So my mom and dad, bless them both. I've still

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Speaker 9: got them in their eighties and they find a lot

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Speaker 9: of that sourdough carry on, just a little bit too tough.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it can.

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Speaker 9: That crust, that crust once it's toasted. Jabbata is a

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Speaker 9: nice soft one, which is great.

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Speaker 11: But look, anything will do.

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Speaker 9: To be honest, I'd look, if you've got a thick

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Speaker 9: toast slice of tip top white bread, it's still going

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Speaker 9: to be fantastic.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, don't you be worrying about that.

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Speaker 2: I've said, Oh you've said, what toast chamata? Oh well,

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Speaker 2: well we're going to say goodbye anyway, Thank you very much,

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Speaker 2: Nikki We'll make sure that Nikki's recipe for that super

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Speaker 2: fancy Father's Day mince on toast with chili, onions and

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Speaker 2: egg is available on the new talks'd be website. Thank

681
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Speaker 2: you so much for all of your texts. I've done

682
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Speaker 2: a terrible job, just a god awful job of getting

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Speaker 2: of getting to your messages this hour.

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Speaker 6: Jack.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed your opening comments this morning. I'm a Donald

686
00:34:19,373 --> 00:34:21,733
Speaker 2: Trump fan and I think you're one hundred percent right.

687
00:34:22,293 --> 00:34:25,213
Speaker 2: But I think you're one hundred percent right. The Democrats

688
00:34:25,253 --> 00:34:29,213
Speaker 2: are right not to talk about Kamala Harris's race or

689
00:34:29,213 --> 00:34:31,773
Speaker 2: talk about her being a woman. Got to say, though,

690
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Speaker 2: I reckon policy is going to matter. I think we're

691
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Speaker 2: going to have to disagree on that one. Gary, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm I think the thing about Donald Trump is everyone

693
00:34:42,093 --> 00:34:44,813
Speaker 2: knows him. Everyone's got an opinion on him, right, You

694
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Speaker 2: either love him or you hate him. And I just

695
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Speaker 2: think that no one is kind of in the middle

696
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Speaker 2: of the road when it comes to Donald Trump. And

697
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Speaker 2: he's such a polarizing figure that you know that the

698
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Speaker 2: elections unlikely to be about like details and the vision forward,

699
00:34:59,533 --> 00:35:01,933
Speaker 2: and you know, specific policies and who's going to do

700
00:35:01,973 --> 00:35:03,813
Speaker 2: exactly what I think it's going to be about people.

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Speaker 2: Jack totally disagree with you. Karmela was hopeless in that

702
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Speaker 2: interview with CNN. She was showing up, and I'm looking

703
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Speaker 2: forward to her being shown up once again once the

704
00:35:13,413 --> 00:35:16,133
Speaker 2: debates kick off. It will be interesting if there are debates.

705
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Speaker 2: I think the tenth of September US time, so eleventh

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00:35:18,893 --> 00:35:21,693
Speaker 2: is supposed to be the first debate, but still not

707
00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:23,853
Speaker 2: totally clear that that will be going ahead at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Apparently Harris's team are trying to change the rules, So

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Speaker 2: I with Joe Biden. Remember they agreed in that calamitous

710
00:35:31,893 --> 00:35:34,933
Speaker 2: debate for Joe Biden, they agreed to mute the microphones

711
00:35:35,093 --> 00:35:37,893
Speaker 2: when it wasn't their turn. Well, Karmala Harris, they want

712
00:35:37,933 --> 00:35:40,173
Speaker 2: to keep the microphones live so that if Donald Trump

713
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Speaker 2: is saying stuff when it's not his turn, that people

714
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Speaker 2: can hear. But Trump's team is saying, oh, you can't

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Speaker 2: change the rules from last time, And I'm kind of

716
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Speaker 2: with the Trump team on this one. I feel like

717
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Speaker 2: I don't feel like Carmal has Karmala Harris as much

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Speaker 2: for a lead to stand on in that sense. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: thanks for you, for you back ninety two. Ninety two

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Speaker 2: is our text number. Jacket News Talks. He'd be dot

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Speaker 2: co dot nz. It's eight to ten.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to know.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame and vpure dot co dot

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Speaker 1: nzet High Quality Supplements News Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be Jack, Jack, Jack, What are you talking about

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Speaker 2: the first of September not being the start of spring?

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Speaker 2: Of course it's the start of spring. It's not. I've

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Speaker 2: double checked it. It's the twenty third of September that

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00:36:16,973 --> 00:36:18,693
Speaker 2: is technically the start of spring. This is why I'm

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Speaker 2: advocating for the Jack Tame theory of seasonal rounding. So

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Speaker 2: we're going to call we'll call it the start of spring,

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Speaker 2: just for argument's sake tomorrow, and then you know, when

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Speaker 2: it gets a little bit cooler, it gets a little

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Speaker 2: bit grimmar, we head into waterm we head into winter.

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Speaker 2: Then we'll round in the opposite direction. I don't think

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Speaker 2: we're losing anything, aren't we?

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Speaker 13: Jack.

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Speaker 2: As far as I'm concerned, the daffodils. As far as

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned, spring has started. The daffodils are out in

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Speaker 2: christ Church, not just for Dafidil Day. Yes, that's how

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Speaker 2: you know that spring has arrived. Thank you for your feedback.

742
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Speaker 2: After ten o'clock this morning, our feature interview. Really looking

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Speaker 2: forward to this one. Get this. She is a by

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Speaker 2: my account, nineteen time Paralympic medalist. I think that's right. Nineteen.

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Speaker 2: Let me see. She's got eleven gold medals, seven silver

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Speaker 2: medals and a bronze. YEP, that's pretty impressive. Pasco is

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Speaker 2: going to be with us, Dame Sophie Pasco. It's not

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Speaker 2: just a Paralympic legend. She is also a mum, a

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Speaker 2: new mum, and she is a TV presenter as of

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Speaker 2: the last week or so, so she's gonna be with

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Speaker 2: us in studio celebrating the start of the Paralympic Games

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Speaker 2: and talking about her new life. Really looking forward to

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Speaker 2: seeing her as well as that. If you're looking for

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Speaker 2: something good to watch or stream this weekend, maybe if

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Speaker 2: it's damp in your neck of the woods you don't

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Speaker 2: really want to leave the couch, We're going to tell

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Speaker 2: you about this new show starring Sam Neil. It's called

758
00:37:37,253 --> 00:37:40,973
Speaker 2: The Twelve. It's like a jury drama, quite a gritty

759
00:37:41,093 --> 00:37:44,373
Speaker 2: jury drama. Apparently it's really interesting. So I'll give you

760
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Speaker 2: all the details of where you can watch that, but

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Speaker 2: it's just coming up to ten o'clock on your Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jack Tame News is next on News Dog zby.

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Speaker 1: On a cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings

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Speaker 1: with Jack Day and Bpure dot co dot INSID for

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Speaker 1: high quality Supplements used talks B.

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Speaker 2: Good morning you were Jack Taime on newstalks 'd B.

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Speaker 2: The Paralympics are officially underway in Paris, and for the

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Speaker 2: first time in sixteen years, Team New Zealand is missing

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Speaker 2: a very familiar face, our most decorated Paralympion ever, Sophie

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Speaker 2: Pasco So. Sophie's a four time Paralympian and eleven time

771
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Speaker 2: gold medalist, seven time silver medalist and one time bronze

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Speaker 2: Ain't no thing. She's also just become a mum. So

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Speaker 2: this year, Sophie's staying home from the Games and taking

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Speaker 2: part in a slightly different way presenting TV and z's

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Speaker 2: coverage of the competition. And she's with us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Held a good morning, good morning, so good to see

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Speaker 2: you in person.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's been a long time, Jacks, It has.

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Speaker 2: Been a long time. So I was thinking I think

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Speaker 2: we first crossed paths when you were maybe fifteen years old. Correct, gulp,

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Speaker 2: So another lifetime, which means that the last time there

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Speaker 2: was a Paralympic Games being contested in which you weren't

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Speaker 2: in the pool, you were eleven.

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Speaker 7: I was.

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Speaker 16: I just missed out actually as well?

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Speaker 2: Are you serious?

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Speaker 12: Yes?

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Speaker 13: I was like zero point zero something from qualifying eleven.

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Speaker 13: But it was I mean, it wasn't as if I

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Speaker 13: was trying to qualify for those particularly well for Athens

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Speaker 13: at the time. It was just at nationals and there

792
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Speaker 13: was obviously qualifying times on the sheet. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 13: just missed out, but it wasn't obviously on my rade a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think it held you back in

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Speaker 2: the end, to be perfectly honest, So I'm sure everyone

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Speaker 2: was asking you this, but what is it like? How

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Speaker 2: does it change your perspective on the Games to not

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Speaker 2: be competing for the first time since before you were

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Speaker 2: a teenager?

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Speaker 13: Look, to be honest, it has been a little bit

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Speaker 13: up and down, yeah, being the first time in sixteen

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Speaker 13: years every time I've been getting ready for a Paralympics. Obviously,

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Speaker 13: the Olympics is a couple of weeks prior to us

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Speaker 13: and I've always been a staging camp, and that's kind

805
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Speaker 13: of been almost I like to call the Olympics the

806
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Speaker 13: warm up event for our event, of course, but it

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Speaker 13: would get you really hyped up.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 13: It was so exciting watching our new ZLM Kiwi athletes

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Speaker 13: perform on the world stage. And I'd always be overseas,

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Speaker 13: but here I am. I'm at home, and I'm looking

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Speaker 13: after a baby, and I'm just not preparing to go

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Speaker 13: to a Paralympic Games, and so I mustn't it. It

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Speaker 13: was really hard actually watching the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 13: I felt, I did feel the fomo, and I also

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Speaker 13: felt like it wasn't really on. And I think that's

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Speaker 13: because it's the first time that I wasn't actually in

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Speaker 13: a structured routine of hey, I'm going to the Paralympics

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Speaker 13: in a few weeks time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you felt that the Paralympics went on?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, no, bos because it just it was kind

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Speaker 13: of this mentality of like, well, hang on, it's why

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Speaker 13: am I not? Why am I not overseas, you know,

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Speaker 13: with the rest of the Paralympic team ready and yeah,

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Speaker 13: but then there was the emotions of actually watching the

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Speaker 13: Olympics as well of oh, this isn't going to be

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Speaker 13: me in a few weeks time. So there was a

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Speaker 13: little bit of sadness, but there was so much excitement

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Speaker 13: because we had an incredible team and we.

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Speaker 8: Did so well.

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Speaker 13: So I loved that side of it. And I made

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Speaker 13: sure that I was able to actually watch a lot

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Speaker 13: of our team because I was breastfeeding as well, so

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Speaker 13: I actually were up in the early hours of the

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Speaker 13: morning and I was actually able to watch. But then

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Speaker 13: now that we've actually come to the Paralympics, I was

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Speaker 13: really nervous. I'm eached to my husband. I was like,

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Speaker 13: I'm actually really nervous about going into presenting and having

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Speaker 13: that real fomo feeling of not actually being over the

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Speaker 13: games of the team. But first day yesterday on show

842
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Speaker 13: and I just felt so content.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's great.

844
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Speaker 13: It's like I'm right where I need to be with

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Speaker 13: my family with my baby and right here presenting and

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Speaker 13: helping out the per team, but still feeling like I'm

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Speaker 13: part of the team, but and just in such a

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Speaker 13: different capacity.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I mean you're still engaged, You're still

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Speaker 2: part of it, just in a different context, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So I think all of that aside now I'm just like, actually,

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Speaker 13: you know what, I don't need to be there. I

853
00:43:23,333 --> 00:43:27,053
Speaker 13: watched some events last night, in particular the swimming, and

854
00:43:27,373 --> 00:43:30,213
Speaker 13: there was none of that fear of missing out and

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Speaker 13: that I should be there, and yeah, it was perfect.

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Speaker 2: Can you enjoy it? That's what I wondered, because I

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00:43:37,973 --> 00:43:41,613
Speaker 2: can totally appreciate the fomo, But I just wonder if

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Speaker 2: actually not having the pressure of your own performances and

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Speaker 2: the pressure of expectation and all of the concerns that

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Speaker 2: must go into competing is also a relief of sorts.

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Speaker 13: Yes, yes, there, I mean there's obviously not that pressure

862
00:43:55,893 --> 00:43:58,613
Speaker 13: on you, right, I mean it's you carry the pressure

863
00:43:58,653 --> 00:44:00,813
Speaker 13: of everybody else to yes, but the biggest pressure is

864
00:44:00,853 --> 00:44:03,613
Speaker 13: your own. But now obviously that's just channeled into my

865
00:44:03,613 --> 00:44:05,933
Speaker 13: own pressure that I'm putting on myself in a studio,

866
00:44:06,613 --> 00:44:08,413
Speaker 13: which I do feel is a little bit daunting in

867
00:44:08,453 --> 00:44:11,133
Speaker 13: itself because it's obviously out of my comfort zone. You know,

868
00:44:11,173 --> 00:44:14,333
Speaker 13: I'm not one to speak behind a camera every single day.

869
00:44:14,613 --> 00:44:18,213
Speaker 13: It comes, you know, in waves with obviously being an athlete.

870
00:44:18,973 --> 00:44:22,133
Speaker 13: But yeah, it's it is a little bit of relief.

871
00:44:22,173 --> 00:44:24,013
Speaker 13: Like I said, I just watched some events last night,

872
00:44:24,093 --> 00:44:27,453
Speaker 13: and I'm just so excited for our team. I still

873
00:44:27,493 --> 00:44:30,053
Speaker 13: feel the nervousness. So I think that's great.

874
00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:31,053
Speaker 2: On behalf of the team.

875
00:44:31,133 --> 00:44:33,973
Speaker 13: On behalf of the team, and you know, I feel

876
00:44:33,973 --> 00:44:36,573
Speaker 13: what you know, the likes of Nicole was going through

877
00:44:37,053 --> 00:44:40,413
Speaker 13: and Voytek last night. You get those feelings and I

878
00:44:40,413 --> 00:44:43,413
Speaker 13: don't think they'll ever go because you just know what

879
00:44:43,453 --> 00:44:45,813
Speaker 13: it's like to be standing either behind your block or

880
00:44:45,973 --> 00:44:49,933
Speaker 13: within the field or player about to compete. And I

881
00:44:49,973 --> 00:44:52,413
Speaker 13: love that feeling, Like that is the one feeling I

882
00:44:52,573 --> 00:44:55,293
Speaker 13: do miss because you know, it's like that adrenaline rush.

883
00:44:55,373 --> 00:44:58,173
Speaker 13: But I'm getting that when it's about to go, like

884
00:44:58,333 --> 00:45:01,533
Speaker 13: we're about to go live on TV now. Yeah, So

885
00:45:02,293 --> 00:45:04,493
Speaker 13: in a way, I'm kind of getting the best of

886
00:45:04,573 --> 00:45:06,293
Speaker 13: both worlds. It's just so different.

887
00:45:06,533 --> 00:45:09,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, for what is with I think you're great on camera, Oh,

888
00:45:09,893 --> 00:45:12,253
Speaker 2: I think, But no, I can see how it's like

889
00:45:12,293 --> 00:45:15,253
Speaker 2: it's an intimidating environment, right, And there's a difference between

890
00:45:16,093 --> 00:45:18,893
Speaker 2: like doing interviews if you're competing as an athlete and

891
00:45:18,933 --> 00:45:21,973
Speaker 2: then being in a TV studio kind of being in

892
00:45:21,973 --> 00:45:25,093
Speaker 2: command and having moving cameras and all of the distractions

893
00:45:25,093 --> 00:45:27,133
Speaker 2: and everything that comes with being in that environment. It's

894
00:45:27,333 --> 00:45:28,693
Speaker 2: it's an alien environment.

895
00:45:29,333 --> 00:45:32,133
Speaker 13: It is unusual, and there's you know, so many moving

896
00:45:32,173 --> 00:45:35,893
Speaker 13: aspects and moving parts to making it come to life.

897
00:45:36,253 --> 00:45:40,053
Speaker 13: And I just I have so much more appreciation now

898
00:45:40,133 --> 00:45:40,773
Speaker 13: for presenters.

899
00:45:40,933 --> 00:45:44,773
Speaker 2: Oh yes, that's what I was thinking for No, I

900
00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:45,533
Speaker 2: really do.

901
00:45:45,773 --> 00:45:48,573
Speaker 13: And you know, there's so much preparation that goes in

902
00:45:48,613 --> 00:45:51,413
Speaker 13: to making you know, the likes of this coverage happening,

903
00:45:51,733 --> 00:45:53,893
Speaker 13: and the fact that we're even getting this sort of coverage.

904
00:45:53,933 --> 00:45:56,333
Speaker 13: You know, it's amazing that TV and Z are actually

905
00:45:56,493 --> 00:46:00,053
Speaker 13: producing live TV coverage for our Paralympians. You know, we

906
00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:02,813
Speaker 13: deserve that and these athletes deserve it, and it's only

907
00:46:02,813 --> 00:46:04,613
Speaker 13: going to get better. And I just hope that I can,

908
00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:08,053
Speaker 13: you know, put my mark on the team that you

909
00:46:08,093 --> 00:46:09,213
Speaker 13: know deserve that recognition.

910
00:46:10,253 --> 00:46:12,533
Speaker 2: So do you reflect on like on that note, do

911
00:46:12,573 --> 00:46:15,573
Speaker 2: you reflect on the place of the Paralympics in New

912
00:46:15,653 --> 00:46:19,693
Speaker 2: Zealand compared to your first games however many years ago?

913
00:46:19,893 --> 00:46:23,053
Speaker 13: Totally? I was talking to someone about this the other day. Actually,

914
00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:26,533
Speaker 13: it's just it's incredible how far Paralympics has already come.

915
00:46:26,973 --> 00:46:30,053
Speaker 13: And I look back on my history in particular, you know,

916
00:46:30,093 --> 00:46:35,573
Speaker 13: I started so young, and you know, slowly becoming history myself.

917
00:46:36,733 --> 00:46:38,893
Speaker 13: But you know those first in particular, those first two

918
00:46:38,933 --> 00:46:42,893
Speaker 13: campaigns and Beijing and London, and London was really the

919
00:46:42,933 --> 00:46:48,853
Speaker 13: catalyst of you know, becoming an inclusive sport alongside their

920
00:46:48,853 --> 00:46:51,133
Speaker 13: able body peers. You know, London really made sure that

921
00:46:51,173 --> 00:46:53,373
Speaker 13: the Paralympics was going to be on the same level

922
00:46:53,413 --> 00:46:57,613
Speaker 13: as the Olympics. However, you know, there wasn't the media

923
00:46:57,613 --> 00:47:00,853
Speaker 13: and the technology like there is today and the social

924
00:47:00,893 --> 00:47:04,693
Speaker 13: media aspect of it and the sponsors getting behind para athletes.

925
00:47:05,013 --> 00:47:08,853
Speaker 13: It's constantly growing. So I have seen that change and

926
00:47:08,893 --> 00:47:12,053
Speaker 13: it's almost like I do feel like those first couple

927
00:47:12,133 --> 00:47:16,853
Speaker 13: of Paralympics for myself, I have almost been you know,

928
00:47:17,613 --> 00:47:20,093
Speaker 13: they didn't get the recognition they deserve, so it's almost

929
00:47:20,093 --> 00:47:23,693
Speaker 13: like they have just been put aside. And now you

930
00:47:23,813 --> 00:47:28,613
Speaker 13: see that for these athletes like Tokyo and now Paris,

931
00:47:29,693 --> 00:47:33,733
Speaker 13: the social media is there. We never had that in

932
00:47:33,773 --> 00:47:37,013
Speaker 13: London and in Beijing. Social media wasn't a thing.

933
00:47:37,173 --> 00:47:39,773
Speaker 2: Even little things. And this sounds so obvious, but like

934
00:47:40,053 --> 00:47:44,093
Speaker 2: being able to watch a particular event on demand, correct,

935
00:47:44,173 --> 00:47:47,333
Speaker 2: like not just being kind of a slave to whatever

936
00:47:47,413 --> 00:47:50,333
Speaker 2: is happening in the moment. It makes it sound so bad,

937
00:47:50,333 --> 00:47:51,453
Speaker 2: but you know what I mean. But like you can

938
00:47:51,573 --> 00:47:53,333
Speaker 2: you can go and say, actually, this is He's an

939
00:47:53,333 --> 00:47:55,013
Speaker 2: event that I might not have seen otherwise it was

940
00:47:55,013 --> 00:47:57,493
Speaker 2: in an inconvenient time or whatever, and I can go

941
00:47:57,533 --> 00:47:59,693
Speaker 2: and watch it. How great, so good?

942
00:47:59,853 --> 00:48:01,933
Speaker 13: And TVNZ plus have five channels to be able to

943
00:48:01,973 --> 00:48:05,333
Speaker 13: do that. And you know, now, yeah, it's obviously the

944
00:48:05,373 --> 00:48:08,373
Speaker 13: time zone doesn't really work in our favor here, but

945
00:48:08,613 --> 00:48:10,093
Speaker 13: the fact that you can wake up in the morning

946
00:48:10,093 --> 00:48:11,533
Speaker 13: and go, Okay, I am.

947
00:48:11,453 --> 00:48:14,373
Speaker 2: Going to go watch you can make whatever sport.

948
00:48:14,133 --> 00:48:18,253
Speaker 13: Of play, yeah, that you want to. So it's so great.

949
00:48:18,493 --> 00:48:19,173
Speaker 13: It's so great.

950
00:48:20,093 --> 00:48:25,013
Speaker 2: Mom life, Mom life. What has surprised you about.

951
00:48:24,773 --> 00:48:30,053
Speaker 13: Mom life that the amount of chat you have with

952
00:48:30,173 --> 00:48:33,813
Speaker 13: people prior to going into being a mum. You never

953
00:48:33,933 --> 00:48:37,333
Speaker 13: really know until you're in it, right, You can be told,

954
00:48:37,413 --> 00:48:40,453
Speaker 13: given all the advice, you can be told all these

955
00:48:40,453 --> 00:48:45,733
Speaker 13: different things, and until you're really in it, that's yeah,

956
00:48:46,013 --> 00:48:49,053
Speaker 13: that's when you know. I'm a mum and I have

957
00:48:49,293 --> 00:48:53,733
Speaker 13: so many different moving parts as well. Now, I thought

958
00:48:53,733 --> 00:48:56,173
Speaker 13: swimming was easy, did you?

959
00:48:56,653 --> 00:48:56,933
Speaker 14: Sorry?

960
00:48:57,053 --> 00:48:59,973
Speaker 13: So got I just said swimming. I thought swimming was hard.

961
00:49:01,533 --> 00:49:05,053
Speaker 13: Swimming is so easy. Yeah, mom life is the hardest

962
00:49:05,133 --> 00:49:07,733
Speaker 13: job in the world. Yeah, harder stuff in the world.

963
00:49:07,813 --> 00:49:11,613
Speaker 13: And I respect any parent out there and especially single parents.

964
00:49:11,773 --> 00:49:14,773
Speaker 13: It is it's challenging. It comes with its challenges. I mean,

965
00:49:14,773 --> 00:49:17,893
Speaker 13: you've got a young person who is just or a

966
00:49:17,933 --> 00:49:20,973
Speaker 13: young baby who is so dependent on you, and you

967
00:49:21,013 --> 00:49:23,653
Speaker 13: want to give them everything you possibly can, so you

968
00:49:23,773 --> 00:49:26,693
Speaker 13: take you know that baby is taking two loads of

969
00:49:26,813 --> 00:49:31,013
Speaker 13: energy out and then you're also obviously a person as well.

970
00:49:31,173 --> 00:49:33,613
Speaker 13: So I think the identity side of it has been

971
00:49:33,653 --> 00:49:38,133
Speaker 13: really challenging too. But I have really found mum life

972
00:49:38,493 --> 00:49:42,013
Speaker 13: so rewarding and just like I said, I'm in the

973
00:49:41,693 --> 00:49:43,533
Speaker 13: I'm the I'm in the best place right now.

974
00:49:43,573 --> 00:49:44,333
Speaker 2: It's so good to hear.

975
00:49:44,453 --> 00:49:45,413
Speaker 13: I just love being a mum.

976
00:49:45,973 --> 00:49:49,253
Speaker 2: The identity thing is interesting, and I saw you making

977
00:49:49,453 --> 00:49:53,133
Speaker 2: what I thought was just a really insightful comment about

978
00:49:53,173 --> 00:49:56,253
Speaker 2: how being a mom had kind of saying being a mom,

979
00:49:56,333 --> 00:50:00,733
Speaker 2: being a mum had like changed your relationship with your

980
00:50:00,733 --> 00:50:02,373
Speaker 2: own body and the way you think about your leg

981
00:50:02,413 --> 00:50:06,133
Speaker 2: for example, and like we always think about like how

982
00:50:06,373 --> 00:50:09,613
Speaker 2: readable women's bodies are. But that has come with its

983
00:50:09,613 --> 00:50:11,333
Speaker 2: own challenges as well, totally.

984
00:50:11,413 --> 00:50:14,773
Speaker 13: And I didn't know that until I got pregnant and

985
00:50:15,133 --> 00:50:18,413
Speaker 13: started to notice, you know, obviously the weight change, and

986
00:50:18,413 --> 00:50:20,573
Speaker 13: then the next thing, you know, all that weight shifts

987
00:50:20,613 --> 00:50:23,613
Speaker 13: within your body and your gate starts to change. And

988
00:50:23,653 --> 00:50:25,773
Speaker 13: then next thing, you know, I can't fit a leak,

989
00:50:26,173 --> 00:50:28,373
Speaker 13: so here we are having to get a new league mate.

990
00:50:29,293 --> 00:50:31,693
Speaker 13: And then it comes with the back problems because already

991
00:50:31,813 --> 00:50:36,133
Speaker 13: you know, being asymmetrical, it's just not you know, it

992
00:50:36,133 --> 00:50:39,173
Speaker 13: doesn't really work that well, you know, carrying a baby,

993
00:50:39,373 --> 00:50:41,773
Speaker 13: having a prosthetic leg, and then you know everything that

994
00:50:41,813 --> 00:50:45,733
Speaker 13: comes with being pregnant, and then the heat on top

995
00:50:45,773 --> 00:50:47,973
Speaker 13: of that. So there's the constant swelling that I had

996
00:50:47,973 --> 00:50:52,493
Speaker 13: within the prosthetic. It was constantly there reminding me that

997
00:50:52,573 --> 00:50:57,813
Speaker 13: I do have one leak. And then postpartum, you know,

998
00:50:57,933 --> 00:51:01,813
Speaker 13: started losing weight, so then still not fitting the league properly,

999
00:51:02,493 --> 00:51:04,573
Speaker 13: but then getting up in the how many times in

1000
00:51:04,613 --> 00:51:07,293
Speaker 13: the night to feed baby, and you know, I don't

1001
00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:09,693
Speaker 13: sleep with a leg on, and it's you know, having

1002
00:51:09,773 --> 00:51:11,453
Speaker 13: to make sure my leg is on and it's on

1003
00:51:11,533 --> 00:51:16,133
Speaker 13: properly because it's for the safety of my child. It's

1004
00:51:16,373 --> 00:51:19,333
Speaker 13: all those things I'm actually having to think about first

1005
00:51:19,693 --> 00:51:24,013
Speaker 13: before my baby. And you know everyone says the you know,

1006
00:51:24,053 --> 00:51:27,253
Speaker 13: your first thought is your baby. But when you carry

1007
00:51:27,373 --> 00:51:30,413
Speaker 13: a disability, you actually have to think about your disability first.

1008
00:51:31,053 --> 00:51:34,693
Speaker 13: It's for the safety of your child. It's just it's

1009
00:51:34,733 --> 00:51:36,893
Speaker 13: been a real mind shift because I've grown up with

1010
00:51:36,933 --> 00:51:40,973
Speaker 13: one league for you know, twenty eight years, and it's

1011
00:51:41,053 --> 00:51:44,613
Speaker 13: never been classes a disability in my eyes, because it's

1012
00:51:44,653 --> 00:51:50,213
Speaker 13: been automatic, routine, you know, auto pilot. However, since being pregnant,

1013
00:51:50,413 --> 00:51:53,293
Speaker 13: it's now just the first thing in my in my mind,

1014
00:51:53,333 --> 00:51:56,053
Speaker 13: you know, I live with pain most days now, like

1015
00:51:56,613 --> 00:52:01,213
Speaker 13: I'm uncomfortable, but that's because your body is changing so much.

1016
00:52:01,213 --> 00:52:04,533
Speaker 13: I'm still you know, going through hormones and when you're breastfeeding,

1017
00:52:04,613 --> 00:52:07,933
Speaker 13: like all of this. It's just it's a constant change.

1018
00:52:07,973 --> 00:52:11,773
Speaker 13: Your body just is adapting to everything. But you're also

1019
00:52:11,853 --> 00:52:14,813
Speaker 13: adapting to a prosthetic leg that was made you know

1020
00:52:14,853 --> 00:52:17,973
Speaker 13: how many months ago or yeah, and you can't obviously

1021
00:52:18,053 --> 00:52:19,533
Speaker 13: get a new league every single day.

1022
00:52:19,693 --> 00:52:20,653
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1023
00:52:20,013 --> 00:52:20,213
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1024
00:52:20,813 --> 00:52:22,693
Speaker 2: So, I mean it's the classic like adding someone else

1025
00:52:22,693 --> 00:52:26,093
Speaker 2: into the equation. Right, If it's just up to Sophie Pasco,

1026
00:52:26,253 --> 00:52:29,533
Speaker 2: you just focus on yourself and swimming, then that's one thing.

1027
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:32,533
Speaker 2: But actually the moment you add another human being into

1028
00:52:32,573 --> 00:52:33,453
Speaker 2: the equation.

1029
00:52:33,453 --> 00:52:34,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, absolutely.

1030
00:52:34,893 --> 00:52:38,573
Speaker 13: And then you know I mentioned about, you know, the

1031
00:52:38,613 --> 00:52:40,973
Speaker 13: look of having an athlete body prior to having a

1032
00:52:40,973 --> 00:52:43,013
Speaker 13: baby as well, and you know, now I look in

1033
00:52:43,053 --> 00:52:45,253
Speaker 13: the mirror and I don't have that athlete body. I'm

1034
00:52:45,293 --> 00:52:48,573
Speaker 13: trying to obviously get that back, and it's you know,

1035
00:52:48,613 --> 00:52:50,333
Speaker 13: it's not as fast as it was. You know, i'd

1036
00:52:50,373 --> 00:52:53,293
Speaker 13: have a break, say a month break, you know, between

1037
00:52:54,093 --> 00:52:58,493
Speaker 13: a pandacle event and the next season starting, and you

1038
00:52:58,533 --> 00:53:01,013
Speaker 13: know it would come back just like that. Yeah, things

1039
00:53:01,053 --> 00:53:02,693
Speaker 13: don't come back just like that anymore.

1040
00:53:04,813 --> 00:53:08,493
Speaker 2: Well, for what it's worth, I think you're positively radiating

1041
00:53:09,093 --> 00:53:11,533
Speaker 2: and you look incredible on TV. You guys are doing

1042
00:53:11,573 --> 00:53:13,693
Speaker 2: such a good job. Are you back in the pool

1043
00:53:13,693 --> 00:53:15,933
Speaker 2: at all? What's the That's what I thought. I was like,

1044
00:53:15,933 --> 00:53:17,893
Speaker 2: how are you squeezing that into your life right now?

1045
00:53:17,933 --> 00:53:20,413
Speaker 13: Look, I mean, obviously it's on hold while I'm up here,

1046
00:53:20,453 --> 00:53:22,973
Speaker 13: and I will be honest around that, But I did

1047
00:53:23,013 --> 00:53:25,053
Speaker 13: mention that the other day that I just want to

1048
00:53:25,173 --> 00:53:28,733
Speaker 13: enjoy the journey of getting back into it, and I

1049
00:53:28,813 --> 00:53:32,013
Speaker 13: have been really enjoying it. Britt and I have actually

1050
00:53:32,013 --> 00:53:34,773
Speaker 13: been swimming together in the pool, so he's been my

1051
00:53:34,853 --> 00:53:37,773
Speaker 13: motivation actually to go to the pool and get back

1052
00:53:37,813 --> 00:53:42,253
Speaker 13: in and I've been really loving it. It's been I

1053
00:53:42,253 --> 00:53:45,853
Speaker 13: guess it's my time I bring baby with me.

1054
00:53:46,053 --> 00:53:46,933
Speaker 2: It's such a good point.

1055
00:53:47,013 --> 00:53:49,573
Speaker 13: And he just sits in his pram and watches and

1056
00:53:49,693 --> 00:53:52,733
Speaker 13: all he's looked after by the staff on the side

1057
00:53:52,733 --> 00:53:56,053
Speaker 13: of the pool, Britt's wife, and it's great, you know,

1058
00:53:56,173 --> 00:53:59,373
Speaker 13: like it's we've got such a family. I mean, that's

1059
00:53:59,413 --> 00:54:03,253
Speaker 13: the beauty of ecuagym. It's a family there and family

1060
00:54:03,253 --> 00:54:06,573
Speaker 13: culture and also your team that you've created over the

1061
00:54:06,653 --> 00:54:08,573
Speaker 13: past seventeen years. You know, when I go to the

1062
00:54:08,613 --> 00:54:11,573
Speaker 13: gym as well, he comes with me and he's just

1063
00:54:11,613 --> 00:54:14,813
Speaker 13: picked up by anybody and just loves it and watches mom,

1064
00:54:14,933 --> 00:54:19,093
Speaker 13: you know, do her gym session. So those times when

1065
00:54:19,133 --> 00:54:22,373
Speaker 13: I'm there, it's about me, and it's I get to

1066
00:54:22,413 --> 00:54:26,653
Speaker 13: just fully immerse in me and think about, actually, what

1067
00:54:26,733 --> 00:54:29,773
Speaker 13: am I getting out of this session for me personally

1068
00:54:29,933 --> 00:54:35,693
Speaker 13: and physically? And yeah, I mean you only get a

1069
00:54:35,733 --> 00:54:38,053
Speaker 13: few hours and a day for yourself, and now it's

1070
00:54:38,253 --> 00:54:40,493
Speaker 13: I mean sometimes it's onny an hour or if I'm

1071
00:54:40,573 --> 00:54:44,853
Speaker 13: lucky exactly, and so I really like appreciate that. Yeah,

1072
00:54:44,973 --> 00:54:46,813
Speaker 13: And so I walk away feeling so good. I'm like,

1073
00:54:46,853 --> 00:54:49,973
Speaker 13: oh my god, I love that. Yeah I could do this.

1074
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, think of this.

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Speaker 13: Yeah it's precious, but yeah, there's like I could do

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Speaker 13: this maybe, you know, the next games. And I think

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Speaker 13: that's the beauty of being able to watch the likes

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Speaker 13: of the Olympics and paralym perks and seeing moms come back,

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Speaker 13: you know, after having children, and we're seeing it more

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Speaker 13: and more women who have paved the way for you know,

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Speaker 13: future moms to be able to come back and go, Actually,

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Speaker 13: you can do this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't have to decide that now,

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Speaker 2: right exactly.

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Speaker 13: And that's what I mean. I just want to enjoy

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Speaker 13: the journey of getting my body back to where it was,

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Speaker 13: loving my body again, because I'm not in that place

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Speaker 13: of loving it right now. And that's because I've been

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Speaker 13: so used to what you know, my body has looked

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Speaker 13: like for the past twenty odd years. And yeah, it

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Speaker 13: takes time, and I think, you know, most women who

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Speaker 13: have had a baby, we'll understand that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your time when you

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Speaker 2: were so busy at the moment, but also just like

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Speaker 2: for just being so open. You're amazing. Oh really, we

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00:55:48,933 --> 00:55:50,973
Speaker 2: really love having you in here, so thank you and

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Speaker 2: enjoy the games.

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Speaker 14: Thanks Jack.

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Speaker 13: Yes, and obviously every night from the seven thirty, you know,

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Speaker 13: free to hear TV and Z one and TV and

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Speaker 13: Z plus.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 2: That's so good. The powers that be DV and Z

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Speaker 2: are going to be very pleased with both of us.

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Speaker 2: But honestly, that was really quite profound and amazing, So

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Speaker 2: thank you very much, Sophie. We really appreciate it. That

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Speaker 2: is Sophie Pasco, Dame Sophie Pasco, Paralympic Legend, TV presenting

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Speaker 2: Legend as well. It's twenty four minutes past ten. You're

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning and this is News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 1: To start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Tame and bpuret dot code on insad for high

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Speaker 1: quality supplements use talks edb Ah.

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Speaker 2: You know I've said this before. I just feel so

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Speaker 2: privileged to have this job. Sometimes there are just days

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00:56:42,173 --> 00:56:45,053
Speaker 2: in this job and I'm like, man, you gotta likes

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00:56:45,093 --> 00:56:47,773
Speaker 2: the Wold cliche, right, You've got to pinch yourself just

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Speaker 2: to be in a position where you can have a

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Speaker 2: conversation like that with someone as accomplished and incredible as

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Speaker 2: Dame Sophie Pasco. Yeah, that was really amazing, love that interview.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your messages. Heabs and heaps and heaps

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Speaker 2: of texts and emails coming through. Ge Jack says, Muz,

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00:57:04,533 --> 00:57:07,733
Speaker 2: she is an absolute net on the radio. She's coming

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Speaker 2: across brilliantly. Jack, one incredible, well rounded woman. Mum, sportswoman

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Speaker 2: now TV presenter.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Please tell Dame Sophie how much we too are enjoying

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00:57:16,973 --> 00:57:19,413
Speaker 2: her presenting. She is a total natural. I hope she

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Speaker 2: gets a permanent job for this sort of thing if

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Speaker 2: she wants one, says Penny ninety two. Ninety two. If

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Speaker 2: you want to flick as a message jacket Newstalks, he'db

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Speaker 2: dot co dot nz is the email addresses coming up

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Speaker 2: to ten thirty, which means it's screen time time. Tara

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Speaker 2: Award is here with the screen time picks first week

1134
00:57:34,813 --> 00:57:36,373
Speaker 2: shows that you might want to watch your stream in

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Speaker 2: between all of the Paralympics coverage. Hey Tara, good morning. Okay,

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Speaker 2: three great shows to work through this morning. Let's begin

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Speaker 2: with the show streaming on Netflix. Tell us about Chaos.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is Netflix's new big prestige drama that dropped

1139
00:57:49,293 --> 00:57:51,733
Speaker 16: this week and This is a dark comedy and it's

1140
00:57:51,733 --> 00:57:55,013
Speaker 16: a modern take on Greek mythology. So it's set in

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Speaker 16: a contemporary world where the Greek gods are real and

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Speaker 16: Zeus is played by Jeff Goldbloom, who is so good

1143
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Speaker 16: in this. He plays the all powerful, quite awful Supreme

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00:58:05,333 --> 00:58:07,773
Speaker 16: God and the show was about the downfall of the

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00:58:07,773 --> 00:58:10,773
Speaker 16: gods and a mysterious prophecy that Zeus is worried will

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00:58:11,093 --> 00:58:14,813
Speaker 16: will lead him to losing his powers and he becomes

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00:58:14,853 --> 00:58:17,613
Speaker 16: increasingly paranoid as the show goes on. He is so

1148
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Speaker 16: good in this, but he's surrounded by an amazing cast.

1149
00:58:20,613 --> 00:58:22,173
Speaker 11: Cliff Curtis is in this as well.

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Speaker 16: He plays Poseidon. There's also Billy Piper, Janet Mactier, Susie

1151
00:58:26,533 --> 00:58:29,013
Speaker 16: Eddie is a Debbie Maser. It just goes on and on.

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Speaker 16: The cast is fantastic, and the show itself is really

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00:58:32,253 --> 00:58:35,253
Speaker 16: clever and quirky. It's taking those well known characters and

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Speaker 16: stories and breathing new life into them on the screen.

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Speaker 16: It's a big energy here. The humor is very tongue

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Speaker 16: in cheek. It will probably help if you know a

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Speaker 16: little bit about Greek mythology. There's lots of in jokes.

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Speaker 16: But even if you don't, I think the big energy

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Speaker 16: of this and Jeff Goldbloom's performance in particular will keep

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Speaker 16: you watching. It's intriguing and something completely different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it does sound different. Okay, sounds good. All right,

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00:58:58,493 --> 00:59:01,173
Speaker 2: there's chaos. It's on Netflix, on tv and Z plus.

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00:59:01,493 --> 00:59:02,573
Speaker 2: Sherwood is back.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm very happy to have a new season of

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Speaker 16: Sherwood back on tv Z. This is the award winning

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Speaker 16: BBC drama. The first season came out in twenty twenty

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Speaker 16: two and it's a series that mixes historical events in

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Speaker 16: the UK with a fictional murder mystery. So the first

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00:59:18,013 --> 00:59:21,733
Speaker 16: season was about a murder in an x mining community

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Speaker 16: where a lot of resentment and tensions still lingered from

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Speaker 16: the minor strikes of the nineteen eighties. So it's a

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Speaker 16: show that feels very real. It's anchored in those real

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Speaker 16: experiences of working class people in Britain. And so even

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Speaker 16: though it's a crime drama, it's also a social drama

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Speaker 16: and a political drama as well. Season two starts on

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Speaker 16: TVNZ one tomorrow night, and it's about another murder in

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Speaker 16: the Nottingham community. A lot of the same characters return

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Speaker 16: for the second season as well as some new families.

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Speaker 16: And again the cast is really impressive, David Morrissey, Leslie Manveld.

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Speaker 16: The acting is just you know quality. This is up

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Speaker 16: there with Poor Church and Happy Valley. If you're a

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00:59:58,973 --> 01:00:02,253
Speaker 16: fan of really rich, layered, thoughtful British dramas, this is

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Speaker 16: a must watch.

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Speaker 4: I love this one.

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Speaker 2: Oh nice, Okay, that's sure. It's on TVN'Z plus and

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Speaker 2: also on TVNZ The Twelves.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, this is the Australian drama The twelve. A new

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Speaker 16: season of this has just landed on TVNZ Plus as well.

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Speaker 16: And the first thing I'll say about this is that

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Speaker 16: it stars Sam Neil and if Sam Neil is going

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Speaker 16: to be in something that's always assigned to me, that

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Speaker 16: it's going to be good. And this is a courtroom

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Speaker 16: drama with a twist. It's about a murder trial, but

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Speaker 16: it focuses on the lives of the twelve members of

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Speaker 16: the jury and it explores how each of these jury

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Speaker 16: members bring their own secrets and baggage to the case

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Speaker 16: and how all those little details help them influence them

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Speaker 16: and coming to a verdict. And the case in question

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Speaker 16: is a murder in small town Australia in a community

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Speaker 16: where everyone knows the people allegedly involved in the crime,

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Speaker 16: which makes it challenging for the jury. And Sam Neill

1202
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Speaker 16: is playing one of the lawyers defending.

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Speaker 12: The co aques.

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Speaker 16: So there's lots of layers to this, which is why

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Speaker 16: I liked it. It has that small town Australian feel

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Speaker 16: to it mixed in with the tension of a courtroom drama,

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Speaker 16: and the audience is like a member of the jury.

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Speaker 16: We don't know if the accused are guilty or not,

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Speaker 16: so we're going to work it out as we go

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Speaker 16: along as well. This is great too. Three great shows

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Speaker 16: this week, Jack, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh very good. I love it. Thank you so much, Tara.

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Speaker 2: So those shows once again. The twelve is the one

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Speaker 2: with Sam Neil that is on TV and Sad Plus

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01:01:18,453 --> 01:01:22,173
Speaker 2: so too is Sherwood Season two of Sherwood, that British drama,

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Speaker 2: and on Netflix the one starring Jeff Goldblum. Chaos is

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Speaker 2: streaming now right now. It is twenty eight minutes to

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Speaker 2: eleven on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: My head's a new.

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Speaker 3: But I'm a gad you're crazy and out of my mind.

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Speaker 3: Close me loves.

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Speaker 17: All of you, love your curves and all your edges.

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Speaker 3: Are you perfect factions?

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Speaker 18: Give me.

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Speaker 11: To me A give.

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Speaker 3: To you A Jack tame?

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Speaker 2: Would you believe It's twenty years since the release of

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Speaker 2: John Legend's debut album, Get Lifted. I Love Gift Lifted.

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Speaker 2: There was a superb album. Anyway, He's been chronicled. He's

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Speaker 2: often chronicled rather defining moments of his life through his work,

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Speaker 2: just like this song. It was dedicated to Chrissy Teagan,

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01:02:36,173 --> 01:02:39,213
Speaker 2: released a month before their wedding back in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: He's certainly smooth voice. He's an egot winner, ain't no thing.

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Speaker 2: He got a start in the late nineties playing R

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Speaker 2: and B, but two decades later he's now got a

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Speaker 2: Christmas album under his belt. He's got four kids under

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Speaker 2: the age of nine, which means, of course it's time

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Speaker 2: for a children's album.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: John Legends just released a children's album. Our music reviewer

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Speaker 2: has had a bit of a listen. We're going to

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Speaker 2: play you some of that album after eleven o'clock this

1245
01:03:05,733 --> 01:03:08,013
Speaker 2: morning so we can see what we think. Thank you

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01:03:08,053 --> 01:03:10,053
Speaker 2: for your feedback. John's look me your message to say,

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01:03:10,173 --> 01:03:13,133
Speaker 2: Jack wholeheartedly agree with you and Kevin Melon on the

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Speaker 2: show today, and that Sophie Pasco is doing an amazing

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01:03:15,573 --> 01:03:18,333
Speaker 2: job on the TV. She's really natural but quite professional

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01:03:18,373 --> 01:03:21,533
Speaker 2: as well, says John. Wow. Sophie says another John. I

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Speaker 2: always knew she was a weapon, but she's just gone

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Speaker 2: to a whole new level for me. Go Sophie, thank.

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Speaker 3: You for that.

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Speaker 2: Really enjoyed that interview. If didn't hear our interview with

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Speaker 2: Sophie Pasco, you can go to newsborgs heb dot co

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Speaker 2: dot nz slash Jack and you'll be able to listen

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Speaker 2: to it there twenty four to eleven non news dogs 'db.

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 19: Confidence can always continue to fall, but I do maintain

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Speaker 19: my argument that I think I started last week. I

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Speaker 19: think things are tuning in this country and people are

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Speaker 19: keen to feel better about life and having rucks and

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Speaker 19: everyone pays rucks. Would that make it simpler?

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Speaker 5: It's more about making it farer here everybody.

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Speaker 19: They picked an interviewer that really is on a hiding

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Speaker 19: sadles and nothing unless she lays it out and puts

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Speaker 19: her on the floor back Monday from six am the

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Speaker 19: Mike Hosking bread Fist at the Rain drive of the

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Speaker 19: last news Talk ZB twenty.

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Speaker 2: One to eleven on Newstalk ZEDB. Oprah of all people

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Speaker 2: is going to educate America about AI, about artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 2: Our text Bert Paul Steinhouse is doing the same thing

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Speaker 2: for us and as well as now, hey Paul, why

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Speaker 2: is Oprah getting involved?

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Speaker 18: Well, she's been doing a lot of these TV stills

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Speaker 18: over here. She did one recently about ozepic and the

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Speaker 18: weight loss drugs to sort of educate America about those.

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Speaker 18: And so Oprah's news special is called AI and the

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Speaker 18: Future of Us and she has some heavy hitters on

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Speaker 18: the Show's going to have Bill Gates, who was the

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Speaker 18: foundercy of Microsoft, and Sam Oltman, who is the CEO

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Speaker 18: of Open Ai, which is the company that created chat GPT.

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Speaker 18: So she's going to basically explain in everyday terms sort

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Speaker 18: of how AI works, because I think there's a little

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Speaker 18: bit of a myth sometimes about how it works and

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01:05:00,693 --> 01:05:04,093
Speaker 18: maybe how magical it is and how you know, human

1287
01:05:04,333 --> 01:05:08,053
Speaker 18: like it actually is. Right, and then they're also going

1288
01:05:08,053 --> 01:05:12,653
Speaker 18: to talk about the possibilities. So in the good I guess,

1289
01:05:12,693 --> 01:05:16,493
Speaker 18: the pros, but also the risks that are ahead, as in,

1290
01:05:17,093 --> 01:05:19,653
Speaker 18: you know, what changes could we see in society, what

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01:05:19,813 --> 01:05:22,413
Speaker 18: changes could we see in the workforce. I'm really looking

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01:05:22,413 --> 01:05:25,333
Speaker 18: forward to it because, well, I think it's going to

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01:05:25,413 --> 01:05:27,253
Speaker 18: be I mean, look, I hope I know most of

1294
01:05:27,293 --> 01:05:29,413
Speaker 18: the answers to this stuff having followed it very closely,

1295
01:05:29,453 --> 01:05:30,733
Speaker 18: and you know, I have my own thoughts on it,

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01:05:30,773 --> 01:05:33,173
Speaker 18: but I'm really interested to see how it's positioned and

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01:05:33,213 --> 01:05:36,333
Speaker 18: then also how what response.

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Speaker 4: Is like to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, And does it start a conversation where people are

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01:05:40,333 --> 01:05:44,053
Speaker 18: saying to their government, the US government, that they want

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Speaker 18: some changes or they want something different. It could be

1303
01:05:46,253 --> 01:05:49,173
Speaker 18: a real it could start a little flame.

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01:05:49,293 --> 01:05:50,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be a bit of a game changer. A.

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01:05:50,973 --> 01:05:53,453
Speaker 2: It's going to be fascinating, Yeah, especial especially with those

1306
01:05:53,493 --> 01:05:56,133
Speaker 2: kind of interviews. It'll be very interesting. And speaking of AI,

1307
01:05:56,333 --> 01:05:59,573
Speaker 2: the AI wars are kind of heating up. A.

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Speaker 18: Yes, it's to kind of like pick your player at

1309
01:06:02,013 --> 01:06:06,853
Speaker 18: the moment for the big established companies because they they're

1310
01:06:06,853 --> 01:06:08,773
Speaker 18: doing the AI stuff, but they can certainly see that

1311
01:06:08,813 --> 01:06:11,773
Speaker 18: there are startups around who are doing quite well.

1312
01:06:11,853 --> 01:06:13,453
Speaker 4: Right startups Nimble.

1313
01:06:13,653 --> 01:06:16,133
Speaker 18: A work in long hours to try to make this

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Speaker 18: a reality. And Amazon actually has a new Alexa coming

1315
01:06:20,333 --> 01:06:23,853
Speaker 18: out that is supposed to be an enhanced Alexa. But

1316
01:06:24,293 --> 01:06:27,293
Speaker 18: according to Royce's reporting this week, Jack, the initial versions

1317
01:06:27,333 --> 01:06:31,213
Speaker 18: of Amazon's own AI tool said that the assistant was

1318
01:06:31,253 --> 01:06:35,093
Speaker 18: struggling with words and struggling to respond to the user prompts.

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Speaker 18: So they have now partnered with a startup called Anthropic

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Speaker 18: to be their new AI partner.

1321
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Speaker 11: But how are they going to make money out of this?

1322
01:06:42,813 --> 01:06:46,293
Speaker 18: Always the question, and it's there is some reporting that

1323
01:06:46,333 --> 01:06:50,213
Speaker 18: they could look to put this enhanced assistant behind a paywalf,

1324
01:06:50,253 --> 01:06:51,773
Speaker 18: so you could have to pay like five or ten

1325
01:06:51,813 --> 01:06:53,773
Speaker 18: dollars a month to talk to your Alexa to get

1326
01:06:53,813 --> 01:06:57,333
Speaker 18: the enhanced service. But I talk about the AI wars

1327
01:06:57,333 --> 01:07:00,053
Speaker 18: heating up right. Amazon actually already has a minority stake

1328
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Speaker 18: in that company called Anthropic Open Ai, the maker of

1329
01:07:03,333 --> 01:07:06,173
Speaker 18: chat gpt. They are looking for investment round two at

1330
01:07:06,213 --> 01:07:11,773
Speaker 18: a cool one hundred billion US scholars It didn't exist

1331
01:07:11,773 --> 01:07:14,693
Speaker 18: a few years ago. Yeah, and they Apple was interested

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01:07:14,733 --> 01:07:18,813
Speaker 18: in them. Apple interestingly is also planning to integrate chat

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01:07:18,853 --> 01:07:22,133
Speaker 18: gpt into its Suri service, and in Vidia is also

1334
01:07:22,173 --> 01:07:25,413
Speaker 18: interested and in video is the big supplier of chips Ai,

1335
01:07:25,733 --> 01:07:28,133
Speaker 18: So we really are kind of like we're getting some

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01:07:28,173 --> 01:07:30,413
Speaker 18: little circles going on in this is if you can

1337
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Speaker 18: start to do the mental map right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fascinating time. Thank you, Paul. That is

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Speaker 2: our texpert, Paul Stenhouse. Yeah, really intriguing. It'll be it'll

1340
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Speaker 2: be fascinating to see what that what impact Oprah's special

1341
01:07:41,813 --> 01:07:44,373
Speaker 2: on AI actually has, because I mean, you know, Oprah's

1342
01:07:44,853 --> 01:07:46,893
Speaker 2: power might have waned a little bit compared to the

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01:07:46,933 --> 01:07:50,493
Speaker 2: absolute healthy in days of her TV show. That being said,

1344
01:07:50,533 --> 01:07:53,973
Speaker 2: she's still an incredibly influential character in the US. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we said at the start of the show that we've

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Speaker 2: decided to generously round the season, so that for the

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Speaker 2: sake of argument, we're going to begin spring tomorrow here

1348
01:08:01,373 --> 01:08:04,453
Speaker 2: on News Talks, he'd b and after eleven o'clock, our

1349
01:08:04,453 --> 01:08:07,133
Speaker 2: sustainability expert is going to give us some tips on

1350
01:08:07,173 --> 01:08:11,413
Speaker 2: sustainable spring cleaning. So spring cleaning that doesn't involve the

1351
01:08:11,613 --> 01:08:14,013
Speaker 2: very nastiest of chemicals. And I know there are some

1352
01:08:14,053 --> 01:08:16,253
Speaker 2: people out there who say, oh, you need the nastiest

1353
01:08:16,253 --> 01:08:19,053
Speaker 2: of chemicals to get rid of all the germs and

1354
01:08:19,093 --> 01:08:22,373
Speaker 2: bugs from around your place, but she says no, no, actually,

1355
01:08:22,373 --> 01:08:23,813
Speaker 2: there are some simpler things that you can do that

1356
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Speaker 2: are just as hygienic. So she's going to share those

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Speaker 2: with us very shortly. Seventeen to eleven. You were jactating

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01:08:28,373 --> 01:08:31,293
Speaker 2: this is news. Doorgs z'edbe no bitter way to.

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Speaker 1: Kick off your weekend than with Jack Saturday Mornings with

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01:08:34,493 --> 01:08:37,533
Speaker 1: Jack Tay and beepwurt dot co dot nz for high

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01:08:37,573 --> 01:08:39,373
Speaker 1: quality supplements used talk z.

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Speaker 2: Edb quarter to eleven non newstalks 'b Bob Campbell is

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Speaker 2: our master of wine and for his best buy this week,

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Speaker 2: he's chosen and or to twenty twenty four seven blanc

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01:08:48,853 --> 01:08:51,853
Speaker 2: from Marlborough for sixteen dollars To Bob, why did you

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01:08:51,933 --> 01:08:52,333
Speaker 2: choose this?

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01:08:53,373 --> 01:08:58,733
Speaker 15: Well, so many on blancs might go to wine patically

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01:08:58,813 --> 01:09:01,653
Speaker 15: in the warmer weather, not that we're getting that today,

1369
01:09:01,693 --> 01:09:06,293
Speaker 15: but it's just is and it's as key we is

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01:09:07,013 --> 01:09:12,613
Speaker 15: as possible to get. This is we're just starting to

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01:09:12,613 --> 01:09:16,093
Speaker 15: see the first of the really excellent twenty twenty four

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01:09:16,213 --> 01:09:22,813
Speaker 15: vintage wines called malb particularly from Marlborough, and it's it's

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01:09:22,973 --> 01:09:31,453
Speaker 15: it's looking good. It's the I think that that Sovian

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01:09:31,533 --> 01:09:35,933
Speaker 15: lovers can really really look forward to some treats from this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very nice. So what does the A two twenty

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01:09:38,493 --> 01:09:40,253
Speaker 2: twenty four Savignon Blanc taste like?

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01:09:41,573 --> 01:09:46,933
Speaker 15: Well, my notes said say that the early release wine

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01:09:47,013 --> 01:09:50,013
Speaker 15: confirms the general belief that the twenty twenty four was

1379
01:09:50,013 --> 01:09:53,773
Speaker 15: a cracker of a vintage, right, and it's a criss

1380
01:09:53,813 --> 01:09:58,093
Speaker 15: refreshing wine with sort of lime zest and passion fruit flavors,

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01:09:58,133 --> 01:09:59,173
Speaker 15: a classic sort of.

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Speaker 2: Marlborough savin Yeah nice, and you reckon at sixteen dollars

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01:10:04,333 --> 01:10:05,373
Speaker 2: it's pretty good value?

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01:10:06,453 --> 01:10:10,213
Speaker 15: Yes I do. It's it's, as I say, a classic

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01:10:10,253 --> 01:10:12,733
Speaker 15: Marlborough sauvignant and at a terrific price.

1386
01:10:13,253 --> 01:10:15,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, so can you buy it?

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01:10:16,733 --> 01:10:16,893
Speaker 4: Well?

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01:10:16,933 --> 01:10:21,173
Speaker 15: I founded at Glengarry Wines and Auckland. That's the retail

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01:10:21,173 --> 01:10:24,973
Speaker 15: place of fifteen ninety nine, and the Good Wine Company,

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01:10:24,973 --> 01:10:29,693
Speaker 15: also in Auckland, was sixteen ninety nine. Check the supermarkets out,

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01:10:29,453 --> 01:10:34,853
Speaker 15: but when you check the vintage, because they quite often,

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01:10:36,853 --> 01:10:41,373
Speaker 15: maybe they may be running out of twenty twenty twenty

1393
01:10:41,493 --> 01:10:47,173
Speaker 15: three and the twenty twenty four could be slightly better.

1394
01:10:47,333 --> 01:10:50,933
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, what would you match you with?

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01:10:52,613 --> 01:10:56,413
Speaker 15: Great with seafood. I like it with Penn Fried Scott.

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01:10:56,733 --> 01:10:58,613
Speaker 15: I think it's a scollop season starting shortly.

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01:10:58,693 --> 01:11:00,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. Well, I'll just have to check this.

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01:11:00,413 --> 01:11:02,973
Speaker 2: So it starts tomorrow, so perfect timing, really, Bob, maybe

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01:11:02,973 --> 01:11:05,333
Speaker 2: you could go out a little bit of hunter gathering

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01:11:05,333 --> 01:11:08,973
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning and then and then the auto to wash

1401
01:11:08,973 --> 01:11:10,373
Speaker 2: it down and will it keep? Do you think.

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01:11:12,733 --> 01:11:15,693
Speaker 15: Fish is best? Yes, but it's good for a couple

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01:11:15,733 --> 01:11:20,413
Speaker 15: of years, prehaps more. But but you know as soon

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01:11:20,453 --> 01:11:23,773
Speaker 15: as as soon as I think is the answer there?

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01:11:23,853 --> 01:11:26,453
Speaker 2: Very nice? Okay, thank you. So Bob's wine once again

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01:11:26,613 --> 01:11:29,413
Speaker 2: is an is an all to twenty twenty four Somnon

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01:11:29,453 --> 01:11:31,733
Speaker 2: Blanc from Marlborough for sixteen.

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01:11:31,373 --> 01:11:36,053
Speaker 1: Dollars gardening with Still Shop free accessories this winter at

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01:11:36,133 --> 01:11:36,733
Speaker 1: still Shop.

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01:11:37,413 --> 01:11:38,933
Speaker 2: I know a man who's going to have an opinion

1411
01:11:38,933 --> 01:11:41,173
Speaker 2: on the Jack Tame theory of seasonal rounding. Kild a

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01:11:41,213 --> 01:11:42,453
Speaker 2: good morning, Rude climb.

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01:11:42,173 --> 01:11:47,493
Speaker 20: Path seasonal round Hang on, I'm a full disclosure.

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01:11:47,533 --> 01:11:49,693
Speaker 4: I didn't listen. I've been I've been not feeling too

1415
01:11:49,693 --> 01:11:51,453
Speaker 4: well and I've been working. But go on.

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01:11:51,733 --> 01:11:54,613
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the theory. The theory is that is

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01:11:54,653 --> 01:11:57,133
Speaker 2: that we acknowledge that spring starts on the twenty third

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01:11:57,093 --> 01:12:00,013
Speaker 2: of September, not on the first of September, but that

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01:12:00,133 --> 01:12:03,773
Speaker 2: for the sake of seasonal rounding, we round Ford for spring.

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01:12:04,133 --> 01:12:06,453
Speaker 2: So we start spring a little bit early on the

1421
01:12:06,493 --> 01:12:09,293
Speaker 2: first of September, while steep Down acknowledging that technically doesn't

1422
01:12:09,333 --> 01:12:11,133
Speaker 2: start till the twenty three but we celebrate the first

1423
01:12:11,173 --> 01:12:13,253
Speaker 2: of September as though it is the beginning of spring.

1424
01:12:13,693 --> 01:12:15,493
Speaker 2: And then at the other end of the seasons, when

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01:12:15,493 --> 01:12:18,653
Speaker 2: we're heading into the cooler months, we push things back

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01:12:18,653 --> 01:12:21,013
Speaker 2: a little bit so we stick with the original dates.

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01:12:21,573 --> 01:12:23,973
Speaker 2: So so, if you like, we round things forward at

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01:12:23,973 --> 01:12:26,173
Speaker 2: the front end, and then we return to the alternative

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01:12:26,493 --> 01:12:28,893
Speaker 2: to the to the actual dates when it gets to

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Speaker 2: the cooler months.

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Speaker 20: Do you really think that people that work on television

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01:12:34,013 --> 01:12:35,933
Speaker 20: can do this science.

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01:12:35,773 --> 01:12:39,653
Speaker 4: Just off the top of their head? Why else do

1434
01:12:39,733 --> 01:12:41,653
Speaker 4: you think we do the first of September?

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01:12:41,773 --> 01:12:44,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is true. This is true. I mean, yes,

1436
01:12:44,813 --> 01:12:47,013
Speaker 2: people who are on TV, in my experience most of

1437
01:12:47,053 --> 01:12:50,453
Speaker 2: us anyway, can't do much else, thankfully. But yeah, I

1438
01:12:50,493 --> 01:12:53,693
Speaker 2: mean that they're being said, I'm seeing more and more

1439
01:12:53,733 --> 01:12:58,213
Speaker 2: blossom around the country, and you know it's I know

1440
01:12:58,253 --> 01:13:00,733
Speaker 2: that Auckland's had the kind of electrical storms A couple

1441
01:13:00,773 --> 01:13:02,653
Speaker 2: of times over the last few days, which means they've

1442
01:13:02,653 --> 01:13:05,373
Speaker 2: got to be some cool some some warmer era in

1443
01:13:05,413 --> 01:13:08,613
Speaker 2: the in the atmosphere as well, so you know there

1444
01:13:08,653 --> 01:13:10,813
Speaker 2: is reason to feel like spring is starting to spring.

1445
01:13:11,693 --> 01:13:15,853
Speaker 4: I love the way you take the mickey out of me. Fabulous.

1446
01:13:16,093 --> 01:13:17,493
Speaker 4: I think it's.

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01:13:17,093 --> 01:13:21,733
Speaker 20: Brilliant because that's exactly what I think has happened the

1448
01:13:21,773 --> 01:13:24,213
Speaker 20: last two weeks ago. I thought we talked about earlier

1449
01:13:24,253 --> 01:13:27,053
Speaker 20: spring and all that sort of stuff, and it was

1450
01:13:27,093 --> 01:13:30,893
Speaker 20: all to do with my clematis, my Clematis paniculata, which

1451
01:13:30,933 --> 01:13:34,013
Speaker 20: is one of our seven species of native New Zealand

1452
01:13:34,133 --> 01:13:38,013
Speaker 20: clematists in au Tierroa. And and I've got I've given

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01:13:38,053 --> 01:13:39,173
Speaker 20: a picture to Levey.

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01:13:39,293 --> 01:13:40,493
Speaker 4: She'll chuck it on the website.

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01:13:41,493 --> 01:13:45,053
Speaker 20: The picture I took after we last week, after we

1456
01:13:45,093 --> 01:13:48,013
Speaker 20: spoke about this on the twenty fifth of August, shows

1457
01:13:48,013 --> 01:13:50,013
Speaker 20: you a couple of flowers and a whole lot of

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01:13:50,013 --> 01:13:54,293
Speaker 20: buds going. And I was really excited, like exactly as

1459
01:13:54,333 --> 01:13:57,653
Speaker 20: you say, the excitement of its becoming spring.

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01:13:57,813 --> 01:13:59,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's early.

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01:14:00,933 --> 01:14:01,213
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:14:01,293 --> 01:14:05,573
Speaker 20: Now, okay, so let's let's first talk about clematists. That's fine.

1463
01:14:05,733 --> 01:14:09,693
Speaker 20: It's a plant that I personally love dearly. It is beautiful.

1464
01:14:09,773 --> 01:14:13,453
Speaker 20: It's such a good native climber. It's it's it's a

1465
01:14:13,613 --> 01:14:17,693
Speaker 20: it's called a one par one anger, which is flower

1466
01:14:17,813 --> 01:14:20,333
Speaker 20: of the skies, which I think is a lovely Mato

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01:14:20,813 --> 01:14:25,293
Speaker 20: Maori observation word for this thing that grows upwards and

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01:14:25,413 --> 01:14:29,093
Speaker 20: gets the flowers right on top of what it climbs on.

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01:14:29,813 --> 01:14:32,533
Speaker 20: And in my situation, it's climbing on an old birch

1470
01:14:32,613 --> 01:14:35,653
Speaker 20: tree that's dead, by the way, and causing trouble because

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01:14:35,693 --> 01:14:37,493
Speaker 20: it'll die and the old thing will collapse.

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01:14:37,733 --> 01:14:38,853
Speaker 4: But that's another story.

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01:14:39,373 --> 01:14:42,173
Speaker 20: So that's that is it the flower of the sky

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01:14:42,493 --> 01:14:46,093
Speaker 20: For those people that want to see these white bunucular flowers,

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01:14:46,133 --> 01:14:50,933
Speaker 20: those climatis they go in what they say is moist soil,

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01:14:51,133 --> 01:14:54,973
Speaker 20: cool moist soils. But they have to then climb to

1477
01:14:55,053 --> 01:14:57,693
Speaker 20: the top of their their climbing rack if you like,

1478
01:14:57,973 --> 01:15:01,453
Speaker 20: where they make their buds and their flowers in warm,

1479
01:15:02,133 --> 01:15:06,413
Speaker 20: sunny conditions, so cool roots, sunny, sunny head.

1480
01:15:06,373 --> 01:15:06,773
Speaker 15: If you like.

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01:15:06,933 --> 01:15:10,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So what's gonna happen is you've got what

1482
01:15:10,213 --> 01:15:13,253
Speaker 2: the moment you've got on this this old dead birch, right,

1483
01:15:13,293 --> 01:15:16,773
Speaker 2: so it's going to collapse at some point. Where would

1484
01:15:16,813 --> 01:15:19,493
Speaker 2: you use what would you know in an ideal situation,

1485
01:15:19,573 --> 01:15:21,573
Speaker 2: would you have it climbing on a living tree?

1486
01:15:22,373 --> 01:15:22,893
Speaker 4: Yes, you do.

1487
01:15:23,053 --> 01:15:24,693
Speaker 20: But the problem with the living tree is that it

1488
01:15:24,733 --> 01:15:27,013
Speaker 20: wouldn't be as spectacular as it is on a dead

1489
01:15:27,013 --> 01:15:28,213
Speaker 20: tree that has no leaves.

1490
01:15:28,293 --> 01:15:30,653
Speaker 4: Right, because if you have no leaves, you got more sun.

1491
01:15:30,693 --> 01:15:33,053
Speaker 4: Therefore you get your if you hit more flowers, yeah

1492
01:15:33,213 --> 01:15:35,613
Speaker 4: you got it. But here comes to thing. So i've

1493
01:15:35,653 --> 01:15:38,533
Speaker 4: worked last Oh hah, another one.

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01:15:38,693 --> 01:15:41,253
Speaker 20: Last week, I had the Advanced Tree Services at my

1495
01:15:41,373 --> 01:15:46,173
Speaker 20: place literally cutting down heaps of my gum trees eucalyptus, right,

1496
01:15:46,493 --> 01:15:48,893
Speaker 20: that would when it's dead. When the tree is dead,

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Speaker 20: for instance, a dead eucalyptus will stay for probably a

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01:15:52,453 --> 01:15:56,653
Speaker 20: decade or two as still strong enough to hold things

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01:15:56,733 --> 01:15:58,373
Speaker 20: like this, whereas a birch would.

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Speaker 4: Go within five years. See that's the difference.

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01:16:00,853 --> 01:16:03,813
Speaker 20: So I would use Acacia eucalyptus, what all that sort

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01:16:03,853 --> 01:16:06,573
Speaker 20: of stuff, especially dead ones of those as you or

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01:16:06,973 --> 01:16:10,653
Speaker 20: climbing wreck for poniculata for that particular clematist. So that's

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01:16:10,693 --> 01:16:14,573
Speaker 20: what it is now. So then I went into the

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01:16:14,613 --> 01:16:16,853
Speaker 20: garden a couple of days ago before I sent all

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01:16:16,853 --> 01:16:19,213
Speaker 20: this stuff off the libby, and I took a photo

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01:16:19,613 --> 01:16:22,693
Speaker 20: of basically the plant as it is now. So what

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01:16:22,773 --> 01:16:26,613
Speaker 20: people can see now is today what my clematist looks like.

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01:16:26,893 --> 01:16:29,973
Speaker 20: And here comes to think, if I go through all

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01:16:30,093 --> 01:16:34,053
Speaker 20: my photos on my computer of Clematis puny culata, the

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01:16:34,173 --> 01:16:39,933
Speaker 20: same one, it is always flowering from today onwards.

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Speaker 2: Really it is.

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01:16:42,853 --> 01:16:48,333
Speaker 20: It's August, yeah, exactly, and so it's just our excitement

1514
01:16:48,453 --> 01:16:49,253
Speaker 20: of card.

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01:16:49,333 --> 01:16:50,613
Speaker 4: It looks good that you think.

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01:16:50,493 --> 01:16:54,773
Speaker 20: Oh, bringers here, and that is what the poor people

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01:16:54,813 --> 01:16:56,293
Speaker 20: on the television suffer from.

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01:16:56,373 --> 01:16:59,653
Speaker 2: This is why you need the jettime theory of seasonal

1519
01:16:59,693 --> 01:17:01,453
Speaker 2: adjustment or seasonal rounding.

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01:17:02,293 --> 01:17:04,053
Speaker 20: That's why I said you are the best one to

1521
01:17:04,093 --> 01:17:06,533
Speaker 20: take the mickey out of me, because I was totally wrong.

1522
01:17:06,973 --> 01:17:09,333
Speaker 20: It's a regular s clockwork.

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01:17:09,413 --> 01:17:11,693
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Hey, thank you so much. And we

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01:17:11,773 --> 01:17:13,533
Speaker 2: will make sure to put those photos up on the

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01:17:13,653 --> 01:17:16,173
Speaker 2: on the website. They have beautiful flowers, so we'll make

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01:17:16,213 --> 01:17:18,333
Speaker 2: sure we put them up. People can see them at home.

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01:17:18,373 --> 01:17:21,613
Speaker 2: After eleven o'clock on Newstalks, EDB how to do a

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01:17:21,653 --> 01:17:26,333
Speaker 2: sustainable spring clean without all the bad chemicals. Our sustainability

1529
01:17:26,413 --> 01:17:30,173
Speaker 2: expert has her top tips as well as that our

1530
01:17:30,253 --> 01:17:32,053
Speaker 2: travel correspondent. It's going to take us all on a

1531
01:17:32,093 --> 01:17:36,973
Speaker 2: virtual trip to Hawaii's Volcanoes National Park. What a name

1532
01:17:37,053 --> 01:17:38,893
Speaker 2: May and as well as that before m dang and

1533
01:17:38,893 --> 01:17:40,533
Speaker 2: to make sure we carve out a little bit of time.

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01:17:40,613 --> 01:17:44,413
Speaker 2: John Legend has a new album and unlike his other

1535
01:17:44,493 --> 01:17:47,493
Speaker 2: most recent albums, this one isn't full of love songs.

1536
01:17:47,733 --> 01:17:51,533
Speaker 2: This isn't full of Christmas songs. It's full of kids songs.

1537
01:17:52,093 --> 01:17:54,613
Speaker 2: Father of for John Legend has just released a new

1538
01:17:54,613 --> 01:17:56,573
Speaker 2: album for children. So we'll play you some of that.

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01:17:56,813 --> 01:17:59,173
Speaker 2: News is next though it's almost eleven. I'm Jack Tame

1540
01:17:59,213 --> 01:18:01,293
Speaker 2: at Saturday morning. This is News Talk's.

1541
01:18:01,133 --> 01:18:07,493
Speaker 1: EDB Saturday Mornings with Jack Team keep him conversation going

1542
01:18:07,533 --> 01:18:10,533
Speaker 1: through the weekend with bpure dot co dot in sad

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01:18:10,613 --> 01:18:13,093
Speaker 1: for high quality supplements Used talks dB.

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01:18:36,213 --> 01:18:38,733
Speaker 2: Good A good morning, Hello New zeal And. Jack came

1545
01:18:38,813 --> 01:18:41,253
Speaker 2: with you through to twelve o'clock on News Talks. He'db

1546
01:18:41,333 --> 01:18:44,333
Speaker 2: if you're just turning on the radio this morning. I

1547
01:18:44,333 --> 01:18:46,893
Speaker 2: cannot remember a time that the All Backs have been

1548
01:18:46,933 --> 01:18:50,773
Speaker 2: at such long odds to win a game of rugby union. Yeah,

1549
01:18:50,853 --> 01:18:53,253
Speaker 2: quoite remarkable exo. Looking at the difference at the moment

1550
01:18:53,333 --> 01:18:56,293
Speaker 2: the tab odds between the all backs and the spring Box,

1551
01:18:56,333 --> 01:18:59,893
Speaker 2: the spring Box comfortable Favorites. We're going to talk to

1552
01:19:00,973 --> 01:19:04,053
Speaker 2: our man from Weekends Sport, Jason Pine before midday today

1553
01:19:04,093 --> 01:19:06,733
Speaker 2: get his thoughts on that, and of course News Talks

1554
01:19:07,093 --> 01:19:09,693
Speaker 2: is going to have live coverage of the game from

1555
01:19:09,773 --> 01:19:14,653
Speaker 2: Johannesburg at three o'clock in the morning, So set your alarms. Yeah,

1556
01:19:14,693 --> 01:19:16,253
Speaker 2: we'll take a close look at that game very shortly.

1557
01:19:16,333 --> 01:19:19,933
Speaker 2: Right now though it's eight minutes past eleven. Jack Team

1558
01:19:20,333 --> 01:19:24,053
Speaker 2: and now sustainability commentator Kate Hall is leaning in to

1559
01:19:24,413 --> 01:19:28,453
Speaker 2: spring kind of starting tomorrow with some tips this morning

1560
01:19:28,493 --> 01:19:33,293
Speaker 2: on sustainable spring cleaning. Calder Kade, Good morning. Yeah, it's

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01:19:33,293 --> 01:19:37,133
Speaker 2: funny a see, I cleaning is one of those things

1562
01:19:37,253 --> 01:19:39,613
Speaker 2: where I think a lot of us who want to

1563
01:19:39,653 --> 01:19:41,533
Speaker 2: be a bit more sustainable and you know, be a

1564
01:19:41,533 --> 01:19:43,613
Speaker 2: bit more thoughtful in the way we're using products and things.

1565
01:19:43,613 --> 01:19:50,093
Speaker 2: Sometimes we are less willing to make sacrifices or compromises

1566
01:19:50,133 --> 01:19:53,933
Speaker 2: on this front because we feel like, you know, being

1567
01:19:53,973 --> 01:19:57,093
Speaker 2: sustainable and cleaning means that maybe you're not cleaning stuff

1568
01:19:57,093 --> 01:19:59,013
Speaker 2: super well. Is that a vibe that you get from

1569
01:19:59,053 --> 01:20:02,973
Speaker 2: people that you know it's not terribly hygienic to not

1570
01:20:03,173 --> 01:20:05,013
Speaker 2: use really powerful chemicals and that kind of thing.

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01:20:05,813 --> 01:20:08,133
Speaker 12: Totally. It is a vibe I get from people, but

1572
01:20:08,173 --> 01:20:11,733
Speaker 12: it is absolutely a myth that I like to often

1573
01:20:11,813 --> 01:20:17,173
Speaker 12: bust because it's totally not It's totally not true. You know,

1574
01:20:17,253 --> 01:20:23,173
Speaker 12: we can efficiently clean our spaces with really simple products

1575
01:20:23,173 --> 01:20:25,813
Speaker 12: that are much better for our bodies, you know, in

1576
01:20:25,973 --> 01:20:29,573
Speaker 12: contact with all the different services, and better for the environment.

1577
01:20:29,733 --> 01:20:32,173
Speaker 12: And like this is coming from me as a person

1578
01:20:32,373 --> 01:20:35,093
Speaker 12: who's like, I'm one of those nerds. I like to

1579
01:20:35,613 --> 01:20:38,333
Speaker 12: kind of compare myself to Monika from Friends, you know,

1580
01:20:38,453 --> 01:20:41,853
Speaker 12: the TV show who you know, she enjoys cleaning up

1581
01:20:41,853 --> 01:20:44,373
Speaker 12: after a party more than the actual party itself. So

1582
01:20:44,453 --> 01:20:48,253
Speaker 12: I love cleaning, and I you know, I hold quite

1583
01:20:48,333 --> 01:20:52,413
Speaker 12: high hygiene standards in my life. Yeah, and so you know,

1584
01:20:52,573 --> 01:20:54,893
Speaker 12: like yeah, so for me, I kind of that's something

1585
01:20:54,933 --> 01:20:57,653
Speaker 12: I won't compromise on because I think, you know, sustainability

1586
01:20:57,693 --> 01:21:02,933
Speaker 12: is also about hygiene and having you know, sustainable kind

1587
01:21:02,933 --> 01:21:05,813
Speaker 12: of cleaning practices. It wouldn't work if we weren't actually

1588
01:21:05,893 --> 01:21:09,133
Speaker 12: cleaning this stuff, you know, if we were using environmentally

1589
01:21:09,173 --> 01:21:12,013
Speaker 12: friendly products but actually having you know, a dirty home

1590
01:21:12,053 --> 01:21:14,333
Speaker 12: that made a small circle or something.

1591
01:21:14,413 --> 01:21:16,733
Speaker 2: To convince me because I'll be honest, I'm kind of

1592
01:21:16,733 --> 01:21:19,893
Speaker 2: anal with that sort of thing as well, like convince

1593
01:21:20,013 --> 01:21:23,493
Speaker 2: me right, my for whatever reason, there is just this

1594
01:21:23,573 --> 01:21:28,413
Speaker 2: little like nugget in my brain that won't disappear that

1595
01:21:28,493 --> 01:21:32,373
Speaker 2: says to me, I need to have like something incredibly

1596
01:21:32,813 --> 01:21:35,653
Speaker 2: powerful and toxic in order to kill all of the

1597
01:21:35,693 --> 01:21:37,133
Speaker 2: germs at my home. And if I'm going to be

1598
01:21:37,173 --> 01:21:39,853
Speaker 2: spraying and wiping stuff, I want to have like a

1599
01:21:39,893 --> 01:21:43,293
Speaker 2: product that's going to burn through that you know, that

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01:21:43,293 --> 01:21:44,773
Speaker 2: that benchtop or that surface.

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01:21:45,533 --> 01:21:49,093
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, I mean, firstly for your house, there's something

1602
01:21:49,253 --> 01:21:51,613
Speaker 12: if you're using something and spraying it, you know, even

1603
01:21:51,613 --> 01:21:54,053
Speaker 12: the act of spraying it and sometimes you know kind

1604
01:21:54,093 --> 01:21:57,573
Speaker 12: of air it's kind of everywhere. If that product is

1605
01:21:57,933 --> 01:22:01,373
Speaker 12: gonna you know, burn the services, burn the germs and

1606
01:22:01,413 --> 01:22:05,213
Speaker 12: you're inhaling it, that's that is I mean for me,

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01:22:05,293 --> 01:22:08,213
Speaker 12: that's like one of initial kind of draw cards that

1608
01:22:08,413 --> 01:22:11,933
Speaker 12: drew me to some more sustainable cleaning products is I'm

1609
01:22:12,173 --> 01:22:14,493
Speaker 12: my body is going to be safer. So if you're

1610
01:22:14,533 --> 01:22:16,813
Speaker 12: covering your house and you're trying to like kill these

1611
01:22:16,893 --> 01:22:20,573
Speaker 12: germs in a really you know, toxic kind of way, which,

1612
01:22:20,613 --> 01:22:23,533
Speaker 12: to be honest, if you were to actually question, you know,

1613
01:22:23,613 --> 01:22:26,013
Speaker 12: why do I think I need these toxic things? You

1614
01:22:26,133 --> 01:22:29,013
Speaker 12: probably actually, if you were to go down that rabbit hole,

1615
01:22:29,373 --> 01:22:31,893
Speaker 12: it would all go back to marketing. You've been you've

1616
01:22:31,973 --> 01:22:36,293
Speaker 12: been sold this particular product that you know kills germs,

1617
01:22:36,293 --> 01:22:38,213
Speaker 12: and you read the ingredients or so you can't read

1618
01:22:38,213 --> 01:22:41,933
Speaker 12: the ingredients because you know, it's a whole bunch of listen,

1619
01:22:42,093 --> 01:22:46,453
Speaker 12: list of all these all these items that yeah, can

1620
01:22:46,493 --> 01:22:50,453
Speaker 12: be casinogenic, you know, like literally a so toxic for

1621
01:22:50,493 --> 01:22:54,773
Speaker 12: our bodies. So the simple like we've been cleaning with

1622
01:22:55,253 --> 01:23:01,333
Speaker 12: simple ingredients like vinegar, baking, sowha, using the sunshine, you know,

1623
01:23:01,453 --> 01:23:05,093
Speaker 12: like lemon juice to clean up our stainless steel. We've

1624
01:23:05,093 --> 01:23:07,813
Speaker 12: been doing this for years and years and years and years, decades,

1625
01:23:07,973 --> 01:23:12,613
Speaker 12: hundreds of years, you know, and it still works. It

1626
01:23:12,653 --> 01:23:16,893
Speaker 12: often actually works even better because you're using something simple.

1627
01:23:17,093 --> 01:23:20,493
Speaker 12: It's often just one or two ingredients you can trace

1628
01:23:20,533 --> 01:23:24,293
Speaker 12: back to like much better where they're sourced, yeah, what

1629
01:23:24,413 --> 01:23:26,533
Speaker 12: things are made from, and it gets the job done.

1630
01:23:26,533 --> 01:23:30,053
Speaker 12: Like literally, I have done different kind of comparisons and tests,

1631
01:23:30,093 --> 01:23:33,373
Speaker 12: especially because I've been house sitting, I've had more accessibility

1632
01:23:33,493 --> 01:23:36,653
Speaker 12: to kind of the mainstream cleaning products that I haven't

1633
01:23:36,893 --> 01:23:40,293
Speaker 12: put it just for for a few years, and and

1634
01:23:40,373 --> 01:23:44,213
Speaker 12: you can actually see that the sustainable ones that is

1635
01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:48,613
Speaker 12: just much much better. My honestly, my favorite product is

1636
01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:53,173
Speaker 12: it's a cleaning pace, So you're kind of equivalent of

1637
01:23:53,253 --> 01:23:56,853
Speaker 12: the sustainable giff. I think everyone kind of has, you know,

1638
01:23:57,093 --> 01:23:59,853
Speaker 12: just as a classic tough.

1639
01:23:59,613 --> 01:24:02,373
Speaker 2: On grind on those things.

1640
01:24:04,333 --> 01:24:08,773
Speaker 12: But I have not bought just in my adult life,

1641
01:24:08,853 --> 01:24:12,133
Speaker 12: so you know, probably never in my life. And instead

1642
01:24:12,213 --> 01:24:17,253
Speaker 12: I use a mixture of castile soap, baking soda, and

1643
01:24:17,733 --> 01:24:19,773
Speaker 12: sometimes a little bit of like essential oil just to

1644
01:24:19,773 --> 01:24:24,573
Speaker 12: make it smell of it mint tea. And it's brilliant,

1645
01:24:24,733 --> 01:24:29,013
Speaker 12: like actually brilliant and actually work. So I think everyone

1646
01:24:29,053 --> 01:24:31,293
Speaker 12: at this at the you know, right now, they're like, oh,

1647
01:24:31,373 --> 01:24:33,693
Speaker 12: the weather's warming up, I'm going to do a spring clean.

1648
01:24:33,813 --> 01:24:37,613
Speaker 12: So it's important to think about what you're using and

1649
01:24:38,213 --> 01:24:40,893
Speaker 12: go into that spring clean thinking, Okay, how can I

1650
01:24:40,933 --> 01:24:43,893
Speaker 12: do this the most sustanable way, not just the cleaning

1651
01:24:43,893 --> 01:24:47,693
Speaker 12: products I'm using, but also you know, not just throwing

1652
01:24:47,733 --> 01:24:50,893
Speaker 12: things out actually really mind talk to.

1653
01:24:50,933 --> 01:24:53,373
Speaker 2: Us about that. But so instead of using like single

1654
01:24:53,533 --> 01:24:54,973
Speaker 2: used cloth, what do you use?

1655
01:24:56,213 --> 01:24:58,933
Speaker 12: So I use costs that I just wash and wash

1656
01:24:58,973 --> 01:25:02,093
Speaker 12: and wash over again, especially when spring cleaning and you're

1657
01:25:02,133 --> 01:25:05,573
Speaker 12: doing kind of really getting in the growths. You know,

1658
01:25:05,693 --> 01:25:08,093
Speaker 12: you can use old t shirts, you can cut up

1659
01:25:09,853 --> 01:25:12,693
Speaker 12: mainly a lot of most of my cloths just cotton

1660
01:25:13,133 --> 01:25:16,093
Speaker 12: and can go on the compost if they can disintegrate.

1661
01:25:16,093 --> 01:25:18,533
Speaker 12: A lot of my cloths actually hands knit by my

1662
01:25:18,653 --> 01:25:22,053
Speaker 12: late grandmother or my mother in law, so basically really

1663
01:25:22,093 --> 01:25:24,293
Speaker 12: brilliant that they last a long time, but again can

1664
01:25:24,373 --> 01:25:28,453
Speaker 12: go in the composts once they have done their dash.

1665
01:25:28,493 --> 01:25:31,653
Speaker 12: And yeah, one of the key things against we've talked about.

1666
01:25:31,693 --> 01:25:34,173
Speaker 12: You know you're wanting to clean stuff, but you're also

1667
01:25:34,253 --> 01:25:36,893
Speaker 12: often wanting to tidy stuff and get rid of things.

1668
01:25:36,973 --> 01:25:39,093
Speaker 12: And you know there may be a whole bunch of

1669
01:25:39,293 --> 01:25:43,493
Speaker 12: winter clothes that you thought you would wear and you're going, oh, well,

1670
01:25:43,533 --> 01:25:47,893
Speaker 12: I should you know, probably donate those. Being really mindful

1671
01:25:48,013 --> 01:25:54,573
Speaker 12: about not dumping a whole lot of broken, dirty stuff

1672
01:25:54,573 --> 01:25:58,133
Speaker 12: at second hand shops. You know, they spend millions of

1673
01:25:58,133 --> 01:26:01,413
Speaker 12: dollars a year on landfill fees because people just we

1674
01:26:01,653 --> 01:26:05,453
Speaker 12: do not have a ideal of shop etiquette in New Zealand.

1675
01:26:05,493 --> 01:26:06,373
Speaker 12: It's actually quite her.

1676
01:26:06,373 --> 01:26:08,893
Speaker 2: Effect anyone in their winter clothes now.

1677
01:26:09,573 --> 01:26:12,293
Speaker 12: Yes, and people get their mentor clothes now and they

1678
01:26:12,333 --> 01:26:16,493
Speaker 12: don't have huge storage face to all this stuff, and

1679
01:26:16,573 --> 01:26:19,453
Speaker 12: so it is really a big burden for them because

1680
01:26:19,453 --> 01:26:22,653
Speaker 12: they're likely not going to sell that and it's just

1681
01:26:22,733 --> 01:26:28,813
Speaker 12: gonna potentially just get dirty, become potentially unwearable wherever they're

1682
01:26:28,813 --> 01:26:30,893
Speaker 12: going to try to store it, or they may not

1683
01:26:30,973 --> 01:26:32,493
Speaker 12: even be able to hold onto it and have a

1684
01:26:32,533 --> 01:26:34,373
Speaker 12: space to saw it, so it might just go to land.

1685
01:26:34,693 --> 01:26:38,693
Speaker 12: So really thinking carefully about that, not just you know,

1686
01:26:38,893 --> 01:26:41,973
Speaker 12: in the in the dark of night dropping things outside

1687
01:26:42,013 --> 01:26:47,213
Speaker 12: sick and handshots, which I see often. It's really yeah,

1688
01:26:47,373 --> 01:26:49,613
Speaker 12: it's really sad. People think they're doing good thing and

1689
01:26:49,613 --> 01:26:53,573
Speaker 12: they like to feel good about, you know, donating the

1690
01:26:53,693 --> 01:26:56,253
Speaker 12: staff to someone else. That really most of it will

1691
01:26:56,333 --> 01:26:57,813
Speaker 12: end up in rubbish if you don't.

1692
01:26:58,413 --> 01:27:00,533
Speaker 2: And one of your top don carefully, one of your

1693
01:27:00,533 --> 01:27:02,733
Speaker 2: top tips or if you go through your spring clean

1694
01:27:02,933 --> 01:27:05,413
Speaker 2: is to then if you're getting rid of heaps of

1695
01:27:05,413 --> 01:27:07,173
Speaker 2: stuff and you're clearing out a bit of space, is

1696
01:27:07,213 --> 01:27:09,293
Speaker 2: not to then fill that space with new stuff.

1697
01:27:10,173 --> 01:27:13,933
Speaker 12: Yes, oh my goodness, I mean ideally we wouldn't, you know, ideally,

1698
01:27:13,933 --> 01:27:17,293
Speaker 12: but actually our spring clean would just be cleaning you know,

1699
01:27:17,333 --> 01:27:20,693
Speaker 12: it wouldn't actually involve the kind of big, deep, Okay,

1700
01:27:20,773 --> 01:27:23,253
Speaker 12: let's put out the cupboards, let's get rid of all

1701
01:27:23,253 --> 01:27:26,453
Speaker 12: this stuff. It wouldn't involve that because we would have

1702
01:27:26,453 --> 01:27:29,053
Speaker 12: been more thoughtful about what's coming in. We want need

1703
01:27:29,133 --> 01:27:31,213
Speaker 12: to throw out a whole bunch of stuff every year,

1704
01:27:31,253 --> 01:27:35,213
Speaker 12: which I see most families do, and so that needs

1705
01:27:35,213 --> 01:27:39,773
Speaker 12: for so it is totally about thinking, Okay, now I've

1706
01:27:39,813 --> 01:27:42,013
Speaker 12: done this, so maybe this was the year and now

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01:27:42,053 --> 01:27:44,973
Speaker 12: I've done this. Actually that was a huge job that

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01:27:45,053 --> 01:27:48,453
Speaker 12: took a lot of time and energy and mental capacity.

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01:27:48,693 --> 01:27:51,373
Speaker 12: How can I make sure that my spring clean next

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01:27:51,413 --> 01:27:53,973
Speaker 12: year is actually just me wiping down so fear.

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01:27:54,413 --> 01:27:54,653
Speaker 5: You know?

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01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:57,933
Speaker 12: How can I make sure that I'm not feeling like

1713
01:27:58,013 --> 01:28:00,653
Speaker 12: I have to fill the rubbish bags again of stuff

1714
01:28:00,653 --> 01:28:03,293
Speaker 12: that actually haven't you know, brought me joy or how

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01:28:03,333 --> 01:28:06,013
Speaker 12: to purpose in my life? And that enrolls a lot

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01:28:06,053 --> 01:28:09,773
Speaker 12: of time control, a lot of awareness that marketing you

1717
01:28:09,813 --> 01:28:12,733
Speaker 12: know is clever, and pull them all of our wants

1718
01:28:12,733 --> 01:28:16,413
Speaker 12: and desires. That's yeah, if we were all just a

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01:28:16,413 --> 01:28:18,853
Speaker 12: bit more mindful, we wouldn't be filling up shops for

1720
01:28:19,093 --> 01:28:22,293
Speaker 12: a whole of broken, dirty, you know, unwanted stuff.

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01:28:22,373 --> 01:28:24,373
Speaker 6: That actually have a.

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01:28:23,693 --> 01:28:27,813
Speaker 12: Better sickn hand economy, and yeah, the environment would be

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01:28:28,133 --> 01:28:29,653
Speaker 12: much happier for it, so would.

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01:28:29,413 --> 01:28:31,493
Speaker 2: Be Yeah, very good, well said, thank you so much.

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01:28:31,573 --> 01:28:35,333
Speaker 2: Kate really appreciate it. That is Kate all our sustainability commentator.

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01:28:35,373 --> 01:28:37,333
Speaker 2: You can find her on all of the social media

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01:28:37,373 --> 01:28:40,533
Speaker 2: platforms as well. You've got great social media by searching

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01:28:40,573 --> 01:28:44,973
Speaker 2: ethically Kate. It is seventeen past eleven. Our travel correspondent

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01:28:45,093 --> 01:28:48,093
Speaker 2: is taking us to Hawaii's Volcanoes National Park.

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01:28:48,373 --> 01:28:53,093
Speaker 1: Next travel with Wendy wu Tours unique fully Inclusive Tours

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01:28:53,173 --> 01:28:54,773
Speaker 1: around the World and Mike Yard.

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01:28:54,853 --> 01:28:57,893
Speaker 2: He's our travel corresponding. Good morning sir, Good morning Jack.

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01:28:57,933 --> 01:29:01,733
Speaker 6: Prediction Time Bodies by Free.

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01:29:01,973 --> 01:29:05,333
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad that you know what I said at

1735
01:29:05,333 --> 01:29:07,013
Speaker 2: the very start of the show this that I thought

1736
01:29:07,053 --> 01:29:08,893
Speaker 2: the Springwalk is going to win. I reckon they're going

1737
01:29:08,933 --> 01:29:12,373
Speaker 2: to win by eleven. But when I said that, I

1738
01:29:12,893 --> 01:29:15,573
Speaker 2: did that kind of that audible intake of breath, and

1739
01:29:15,613 --> 01:29:17,693
Speaker 2: I was like, is today a day where I want

1740
01:29:17,733 --> 01:29:19,853
Speaker 2: to get a thousand texts telling me why I'm wrong

1741
01:29:19,893 --> 01:29:22,013
Speaker 2: about this, that I don't know anything? And I was like,

1742
01:29:22,053 --> 01:29:24,493
Speaker 2: do I really want to pick that fight? And then

1743
01:29:24,573 --> 01:29:27,253
Speaker 2: I was very surprised to go on the TAB website

1744
01:29:27,293 --> 01:29:29,653
Speaker 2: and look at the odds because I am not the

1745
01:29:29,653 --> 01:29:32,333
Speaker 2: only one picking South Africa. So South Africa is paying

1746
01:29:32,333 --> 01:29:34,973
Speaker 2: a dollar forty seven at the moment New Zealand the

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01:29:34,973 --> 01:29:37,693
Speaker 2: All Blacks paying two sixty according to the JVV, which

1748
01:29:37,733 --> 01:29:39,693
Speaker 2: is I reckon, the longest odds that the All Blacks

1749
01:29:39,693 --> 01:29:42,853
Speaker 2: have had in some time. But yes, you know, we

1750
01:29:42,933 --> 01:29:45,653
Speaker 2: know how difficult it is there. If they can get up.

1751
01:29:45,693 --> 01:29:47,293
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean I don't want the All Blacks to win.

1752
01:29:47,333 --> 01:29:49,093
Speaker 2: If they can get up, it would be such a

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01:29:49,093 --> 01:29:51,013
Speaker 2: great victory for them. So he's hunting.

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01:29:51,053 --> 01:29:54,013
Speaker 6: I suppose I reckon we might win next week, but

1755
01:29:54,133 --> 01:29:56,333
Speaker 6: I think Elie Park too tough.

1756
01:29:56,293 --> 01:29:58,573
Speaker 2: Elis Puk and Joe Berg. Yeah, and given how the

1757
01:29:58,773 --> 01:30:01,413
Speaker 2: South Africans have been playing over the last couple of weeks, yeah,

1758
01:30:01,413 --> 01:30:02,933
Speaker 2: it's going to be It's going to be a tricky run,

1759
01:30:02,973 --> 01:30:05,573
Speaker 2: but hey, you never know, and it will certainly be. Yeah,

1760
01:30:05,613 --> 01:30:09,253
Speaker 2: be a pretty epic efic test. Newstaloksibia. Of course, life

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01:30:09,293 --> 01:30:12,293
Speaker 2: coverage from three o'clock tomorrow morning. Now we are focusing

1762
01:30:12,333 --> 01:30:15,813
Speaker 2: on Hawaii's Volcanos National Park, which I reckon is in

1763
01:30:15,853 --> 01:30:18,013
Speaker 2: terms of the names of national parks has to be

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01:30:18,093 --> 01:30:21,453
Speaker 2: right up there. So just how big is Volcanoes National Park?

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01:30:22,013 --> 01:30:24,573
Speaker 6: She is a whopper. If you are planning a jaunt

1766
01:30:24,573 --> 01:30:27,173
Speaker 6: to the Big Island, you will really want to set

1767
01:30:27,213 --> 01:30:32,133
Speaker 6: aside some decent time to explore Hawaii's hot seats because,

1768
01:30:33,013 --> 01:30:35,653
Speaker 6: to put it in context, it's as big as the

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01:30:35,893 --> 01:30:41,653
Speaker 6: entire island of Oahu. So we're talking serious terrain, and

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01:30:41,733 --> 01:30:45,893
Speaker 6: it's the only US national park that can tout tropical

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01:30:45,973 --> 01:30:49,573
Speaker 6: rainforest and an active volcano, so a lot of really

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01:30:49,653 --> 01:30:54,653
Speaker 6: novel features to it. One of my guides, the Ejects, said,

1773
01:30:54,693 --> 01:30:59,373
Speaker 6: the park boasts six of the Earth's thirteen climate zones.

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01:30:59,693 --> 01:31:04,573
Speaker 6: So in terms of scenery and terrain and just sheer variety, Yeah,

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01:31:04,813 --> 01:31:09,413
Speaker 6: I was truly surprised just how varied the place is.

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01:31:09,693 --> 01:31:11,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so there are and there are two big

1777
01:31:11,813 --> 01:31:12,893
Speaker 2: volcanoes there, right.

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01:31:13,333 --> 01:31:16,493
Speaker 6: Yes, so you've got Mana Loa and the more active

1779
01:31:16,733 --> 01:31:19,373
Speaker 6: Keeler Wayer. What really blew my hair back is that

1780
01:31:19,453 --> 01:31:22,773
Speaker 6: even though Mana Lola reaches the same altitude as Mount Cock,

1781
01:31:23,293 --> 01:31:28,453
Speaker 6: she's actually nine thousand meters from tip to toe because

1782
01:31:28,973 --> 01:31:32,853
Speaker 6: half of her is underneath the ocean, So that actually

1783
01:31:32,853 --> 01:31:36,693
Speaker 6: makes Mana Lola one thousand meters taller than Mount Everest,

1784
01:31:36,733 --> 01:31:41,653
Speaker 6: which is quite unporting. Oh year, yeah, because there's not

1785
01:31:41,693 --> 01:31:46,813
Speaker 6: actually much of Everest underneath the ground. But yeah, above

1786
01:31:46,853 --> 01:31:50,973
Speaker 6: sea level ever obviously is the tallest. But when it

1787
01:31:51,053 --> 01:31:55,533
Speaker 6: comes to keeth Awayer, this very feisty, effusive neighbor to

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01:31:55,653 --> 01:31:59,253
Speaker 6: Mana Lola, her last major eruption was six years ago,

1789
01:31:59,373 --> 01:32:02,933
Speaker 6: destroyed seven hundred homes. Bang, thanks for coming. But she's

1790
01:32:02,973 --> 01:32:05,413
Speaker 6: also the land builder, and you will notice this. There

1791
01:32:05,453 --> 01:32:08,093
Speaker 6: are just one hundred to akers that she created six

1792
01:32:08,173 --> 01:32:11,733
Speaker 6: years ago, particularly along the coastline where all of that

1793
01:32:11,813 --> 01:32:14,573
Speaker 6: molten lava meets the sea and it just extends out

1794
01:32:14,573 --> 01:32:19,013
Speaker 6: the coastline. She did erupt for eight hours in June,

1795
01:32:19,213 --> 01:32:21,573
Speaker 6: but it was just a very short lived afear. But

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01:32:21,693 --> 01:32:25,173
Speaker 6: even when she's not erupting, she is constantly steaming.

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01:32:25,293 --> 01:32:27,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you self driver.

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01:32:27,973 --> 01:32:30,533
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely the best way to do it. So

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01:32:30,653 --> 01:32:34,213
Speaker 6: from Helo Airport, it's just a forty five minute drive

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01:32:34,253 --> 01:32:37,173
Speaker 6: into the National Park. So grab a rental from Helo Airport,

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01:32:38,013 --> 01:32:43,093
Speaker 6: head to the aptly named village of Volcano. And I'm

1802
01:32:43,093 --> 01:32:45,613
Speaker 6: always amused to Jack and I think we've talked about

1803
01:32:45,613 --> 01:32:49,573
Speaker 6: this before. In American national parks, they are so tailor

1804
01:32:49,653 --> 01:32:51,533
Speaker 6: made to be supremely lazy.

1805
01:32:51,613 --> 01:32:53,693
Speaker 5: You've got these beautiful.

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01:32:53,373 --> 01:32:56,973
Speaker 6: Paves loop roads that take you around all the attractions,

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01:32:57,253 --> 01:32:59,893
Speaker 6: so yeah, you can enjoy a very lazy panoramic drive.

1808
01:33:00,333 --> 01:33:03,373
Speaker 6: But for the view of views, you've got to head

1809
01:33:03,413 --> 01:33:07,453
Speaker 6: to Hallow mau Matouh Crater. And this is like a

1810
01:33:07,533 --> 01:33:11,893
Speaker 6: crater within a crater. It's where many Native Hawaiians believe

1811
01:33:13,013 --> 01:33:17,213
Speaker 6: this is where the goddess of fire Pele currently resides.

1812
01:33:17,693 --> 01:33:20,893
Speaker 6: So she smokes by the day and if you strike

1813
01:33:20,973 --> 01:33:25,373
Speaker 6: it lucky come nightfall, you can see the flickering molten

1814
01:33:25,533 --> 01:33:29,653
Speaker 6: hallfire glow of that crater's lava lake after dark, which

1815
01:33:29,773 --> 01:33:32,213
Speaker 6: is absolutely mesmeriz Yeah.

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01:33:32,093 --> 01:33:34,773
Speaker 2: Oh that sounds very special. Cool. So what were some

1817
01:33:34,813 --> 01:33:35,853
Speaker 2: of your favorite attractions?

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01:33:36,573 --> 01:33:40,653
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, another place to head is Steam Vents. That's

1819
01:33:40,693 --> 01:33:43,533
Speaker 6: another classic viewpoint, and in the cool of dawn, she

1820
01:33:43,853 --> 01:33:46,893
Speaker 6: is pumping these huge plumes of steam. It's like the

1821
01:33:47,133 --> 01:33:51,413
Speaker 6: factory inside the National park. And from Steam Vents you

1822
01:33:51,453 --> 01:33:55,453
Speaker 6: can take a very short walk to Steaming Bluff, very

1823
01:33:55,493 --> 01:33:59,293
Speaker 6: sort of self expanatory, and this viewpoint it kind of

1824
01:33:59,333 --> 01:34:04,893
Speaker 6: resembles an inferno with steam pouring over the cliffs just relentlessly.

1825
01:34:05,813 --> 01:34:10,373
Speaker 6: Definitely do a walk called Devastation Trail. Great name kind

1826
01:34:10,373 --> 01:34:13,053
Speaker 6: of says it all once again. So this was a

1827
01:34:13,133 --> 01:34:17,893
Speaker 6: rainforest that was incinerated by Keler Wayer about sixty years ago.

1828
01:34:18,253 --> 01:34:20,893
Speaker 6: So you've got a very scarred landscape, sort of like

1829
01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:24,573
Speaker 6: an ashen gray desert. But just as nature gives with

1830
01:34:24,653 --> 01:34:27,893
Speaker 6: one hand and takes with the other, this brutal landscape

1831
01:34:27,933 --> 01:34:30,693
Speaker 6: is being recolonized in front of your eyes. You can

1832
01:34:30,733 --> 01:34:35,333
Speaker 6: see trees and ferns defiantly rising up from that black dirt.

1833
01:34:35,613 --> 01:34:38,293
Speaker 6: Place your hands on the ground and you can feel

1834
01:34:38,373 --> 01:34:40,693
Speaker 6: the hot pot directly beneath you.

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01:34:41,093 --> 01:34:44,293
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's yeah, that sounds it. That sounds quite

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01:34:44,533 --> 01:34:48,133
Speaker 2: unique and yeah, quite specially. So there are petroglyphs right

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01:34:48,173 --> 01:34:53,013
Speaker 2: the rock paintings. Yes, are they rock carvings?

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01:34:53,093 --> 01:34:55,773
Speaker 6: Is that the difference they are rest that's correct.

1839
01:34:55,893 --> 01:34:56,973
Speaker 5: Yep, they've been chiseled.

1840
01:34:57,053 --> 01:35:00,773
Speaker 6: So there was a place called pooh Ulua petroglyphs and

1841
01:35:00,973 --> 01:35:04,533
Speaker 6: they've done a brilliant boardwalk loop trail. So obviously the

1842
01:35:04,573 --> 01:35:08,853
Speaker 6: boardwalkers elevated a bar these vast lava flows so they

1843
01:35:08,973 --> 01:35:14,613
Speaker 6: don't damage these chiseled drawings, thousands of them. Apparently at

1844
01:35:14,693 --> 01:35:18,573
Speaker 6: last count there's twenty three thousands of them chiseled into

1845
01:35:18,653 --> 01:35:22,573
Speaker 6: the rocks. They've been done over centuries by native Hawaiians.

1846
01:35:22,933 --> 01:35:28,693
Speaker 6: Lots of animal and human figures, really fascinating. Another curiosity,

1847
01:35:29,133 --> 01:35:32,253
Speaker 6: first in lava tube and this is enrobed in rainforests

1848
01:35:32,333 --> 01:35:37,013
Speaker 6: so beautifully lush. Keep an eye out for the scarlet honeycreeper,

1849
01:35:37,053 --> 01:35:40,173
Speaker 6: which is a spectacular bird. But the big Kahoona is

1850
01:35:40,253 --> 01:35:45,093
Speaker 6: this gigantic lava tube and it's all been artificially litz jack,

1851
01:35:45,253 --> 01:35:49,053
Speaker 6: so it feels so ethereal. But these lava tubes have

1852
01:35:49,173 --> 01:35:53,613
Speaker 6: formed when the outer crust of a lava river hardens,

1853
01:35:54,053 --> 01:35:58,413
Speaker 6: but the liquid lava beneath that crust continues to gush,

1854
01:35:58,813 --> 01:36:01,653
Speaker 6: and then after all of that flow has drained out,

1855
01:36:01,693 --> 01:36:05,773
Speaker 6: you are left with this big, hard tunnel like shell.

1856
01:36:06,373 --> 01:36:08,213
Speaker 6: You can walk through the whole thing today. It is

1857
01:36:08,333 --> 01:36:08,893
Speaker 6: so cool.

1858
01:36:08,933 --> 01:36:12,253
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh that's great. Okay. So it would Volcano

1859
01:36:12,333 --> 01:36:14,253
Speaker 2: House do you Reckon be the best place to stay?

1860
01:36:15,213 --> 01:36:19,093
Speaker 6: Yes? I would absolutely stress do the national park, not

1861
01:36:19,213 --> 01:36:22,613
Speaker 6: as a day trip, but for at least an overnight stay.

1862
01:36:23,173 --> 01:36:26,853
Speaker 6: Definitely check out Volcano house. It's the only larging within

1863
01:36:26,893 --> 01:36:30,453
Speaker 6: the park. It is actually Hawaii's oldest hotel. It was

1864
01:36:30,493 --> 01:36:33,053
Speaker 6: first established back in the eighteen forties. So it's got

1865
01:36:33,093 --> 01:36:37,733
Speaker 6: a very woodsy, sort of super sized bungalow feel, lots

1866
01:36:37,733 --> 01:36:40,853
Speaker 6: of history. So many amazing people have stayed there, you know,

1867
01:36:40,893 --> 01:36:45,213
Speaker 6: everyone from Mark Twain's JFK. Familiar Earhart, you name it.

1868
01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:48,973
Speaker 6: But you are literally sleeping on the edge of the crater.

1869
01:36:49,093 --> 01:36:51,333
Speaker 6: Rim and I would have to say when it comes

1870
01:36:51,333 --> 01:36:54,093
Speaker 6: to a room with a view, looking out your window

1871
01:36:54,213 --> 01:36:57,893
Speaker 6: and seeing that molten lava lake, oh yeah, that takes

1872
01:36:57,933 --> 01:36:58,453
Speaker 6: some beating.

1873
01:36:59,653 --> 01:37:04,293
Speaker 2: That sounds amazing. So is the volcano. This is the

1874
01:37:04,413 --> 01:37:09,573
Speaker 2: Volcanoes National Park, volcan a village with volcano house, correct,

1875
01:37:09,693 --> 01:37:11,893
Speaker 2: So it shouldn't be too hard to get confused there.

1876
01:37:13,013 --> 01:37:14,373
Speaker 7: They make life easy for you.

1877
01:37:14,493 --> 01:37:15,053
Speaker 2: Yeah they do.

1878
01:37:15,213 --> 01:37:15,493
Speaker 13: They do.

1879
01:37:15,853 --> 01:37:17,973
Speaker 2: That sounds amazing. Hey, thank you so much. Eager to

1880
01:37:17,973 --> 01:37:19,533
Speaker 2: get up, Mike, I think so.

1881
01:37:19,653 --> 01:37:22,293
Speaker 6: Jack a tour of Ducy three in the morning.

1882
01:37:22,333 --> 01:37:25,813
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, good work, fear call too. Thank you

1883
01:37:25,853 --> 01:37:27,893
Speaker 2: so much. Mike Hardley there will make sure all of

1884
01:37:27,933 --> 01:37:31,933
Speaker 2: his tips for traveling around Hawaii. Volcano Hawaii's Volcanoes National

1885
01:37:31,973 --> 01:37:34,653
Speaker 2: Park are up and available on the News Talks the website.

1886
01:37:34,693 --> 01:37:45,093
Speaker 2: It is just coming up to eleven thirty.

1887
01:37:41,973 --> 01:37:46,213
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1888
01:37:46,333 --> 01:37:47,173
Speaker 1: on News Talks.

1889
01:37:47,373 --> 01:38:25,653
Speaker 2: B that is Lost in Love Max Olay, He's Altered

1890
01:38:25,773 --> 01:38:28,493
Speaker 2: or Born, just released his first single to his get

1891
01:38:28,533 --> 01:38:33,813
Speaker 2: this three million TikTok followers. Pretty impressive. A yeah, catch

1892
01:38:33,973 --> 01:38:36,013
Speaker 2: enough too. Before midday, We've got some new music view

1893
01:38:36,053 --> 01:38:39,013
Speaker 2: as well from John Legend. He's an Egot winner, so

1894
01:38:39,053 --> 01:38:39,613
Speaker 2: he's one.

1895
01:38:39,533 --> 01:38:40,173
Speaker 6: What is it?

1896
01:38:40,613 --> 01:38:42,093
Speaker 2: I can do this? Come on, I can do this.

1897
01:38:42,133 --> 01:38:44,733
Speaker 2: He's won an Emmy, he's won a Grammy, he's won

1898
01:38:44,773 --> 01:38:48,653
Speaker 2: an Oscar, and he's won a Tony Award. We got

1899
01:38:48,653 --> 01:38:52,093
Speaker 2: there produce Olivia. Of course, she's all over it. She

1900
01:38:52,493 --> 01:38:56,293
Speaker 2: loves she loves John. He's a massive fan from way back,

1901
01:38:56,373 --> 01:38:59,213
Speaker 2: so she was determined that we would. She was determined

1902
01:38:59,213 --> 01:39:00,733
Speaker 2: that we would listen to his new album. It's a

1903
01:39:00,733 --> 01:39:02,853
Speaker 2: bit different though. So he's done a couple of you know,

1904
01:39:03,013 --> 01:39:05,973
Speaker 2: feeling not soppy, but you know, he's done kind of

1905
01:39:06,013 --> 01:39:08,893
Speaker 2: his life ballads over the last few years. He recently

1906
01:39:09,293 --> 01:39:12,653
Speaker 2: released a Christmas album and now he's got a kids album,

1907
01:39:12,933 --> 01:39:15,173
Speaker 2: Father of Four, So he's written some kids songs, will

1908
01:39:15,173 --> 01:39:17,293
Speaker 2: play you a couple before midday and get our music

1909
01:39:17,293 --> 01:39:19,613
Speaker 2: reviewers thoughts on that, and then of course after midday

1910
01:39:20,053 --> 01:39:22,453
Speaker 2: behind the mic for weekends sport, counting down to the

1911
01:39:22,453 --> 01:39:26,213
Speaker 2: All Blacks tonight at Alice Park in joe Burg, Jason Pine,

1912
01:39:26,533 --> 01:39:29,693
Speaker 2: will we with us? Kelda Party? Kyoda Jack? How are

1913
01:39:29,693 --> 01:39:31,893
Speaker 2: you feeling about it? I was stunned when I logged

1914
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Speaker 2: into the tab website this morning and checked out the odds.

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Speaker 2: So one forty seven for a spring Bok victory, two

1916
01:39:39,533 --> 01:39:41,973
Speaker 2: sixty for an All Black victory. Oh, I think it's

1917
01:39:41,973 --> 01:39:43,653
Speaker 2: been a week while since the All Blacks were facing

1918
01:39:43,653 --> 01:39:44,373
Speaker 2: those kind of odds.

1919
01:39:44,453 --> 01:39:49,093
Speaker 21: I can't remember it too sixty anywhere in the professional era. Actually,

1920
01:39:49,293 --> 01:39:51,373
Speaker 21: I stand to be corrected obviously, but I can't remember

1921
01:39:51,373 --> 01:39:56,413
Speaker 21: them being beings as underdoggy an underdog as they will

1922
01:39:56,413 --> 01:40:00,093
Speaker 21: be at Ellis Park tomorrow. But having said that, I'm

1923
01:40:00,373 --> 01:40:02,533
Speaker 21: outside of Rugby World Cups check, I can't remember looking

1924
01:40:02,533 --> 01:40:04,493
Speaker 21: forward to a test match list night. Yeah, yeah, I

1925
01:40:04,653 --> 01:40:07,733
Speaker 21: just I'm so so trusted to see what happens. I

1926
01:40:07,733 --> 01:40:12,333
Speaker 21: mean with Australia, it's totally a test.

1927
01:40:12,453 --> 01:40:12,613
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1928
01:40:12,893 --> 01:40:14,653
Speaker 21: And this is how you, this is how you test

1929
01:40:14,693 --> 01:40:17,773
Speaker 21: where you are. You know, the Wallabies have fallen off

1930
01:40:17,773 --> 01:40:19,733
Speaker 21: a bit of a cliff in the last couple of decades.

1931
01:40:19,773 --> 01:40:21,053
Speaker 21: They have one of Bladslow Cup for a long time.

1932
01:40:21,133 --> 01:40:22,093
Speaker 21: So if you want to find out how good the

1933
01:40:22,133 --> 01:40:24,533
Speaker 21: All Blacks are, you play South Africa in South Africa,

1934
01:40:24,613 --> 01:40:26,253
Speaker 21: then you'll find out how good we are.

1935
01:40:26,453 --> 01:40:26,653
Speaker 3: Look.

1936
01:40:26,693 --> 01:40:28,773
Speaker 21: I think it's no secret that the All Blacks under

1937
01:40:28,853 --> 01:40:31,053
Speaker 21: Rasor have been a bit up and down in the

1938
01:40:31,053 --> 01:40:33,613
Speaker 21: first five test matches. They've had the disruption obviously Leon

1939
01:40:33,733 --> 01:40:36,533
Speaker 21: McDonald leaving the coaching group. They go into a very

1940
01:40:36,613 --> 01:40:39,693
Speaker 21: very difficult place in terms of the atmosphere they'll encounter,

1941
01:40:39,813 --> 01:40:43,333
Speaker 21: the altitude the world champions, who have if anything, got

1942
01:40:43,373 --> 01:40:45,453
Speaker 21: better this year than they were when they lifted the

1943
01:40:45,453 --> 01:40:49,853
Speaker 21: William Warebellas Trophy. So you know, it all just points

1944
01:40:49,893 --> 01:40:53,013
Speaker 21: to a terrific as you say, test for this All

1945
01:40:53,053 --> 01:40:53,573
Speaker 21: Black site.

1946
01:40:53,693 --> 01:40:56,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So any predictions whatsoever? Do you feel? Do

1947
01:40:57,013 --> 01:40:59,653
Speaker 2: you feel at all like you can make an informed

1948
01:40:59,813 --> 01:41:03,773
Speaker 2: call as to how things might go down? No? No,

1949
01:41:04,213 --> 01:41:07,013
Speaker 2: I really don't. I feel you know, and I don't

1950
01:41:07,013 --> 01:41:09,093
Speaker 2: want to. He's sitting here tomorrow with people thinking I

1951
01:41:09,093 --> 01:41:12,893
Speaker 2: didn't believe. I mean, I feel like those odds are

1952
01:41:12,933 --> 01:41:14,493
Speaker 2: may be slightly long for the All Backs. But I

1953
01:41:15,093 --> 01:41:19,733
Speaker 2: think if anyone is looking at this completely bias free,

1954
01:41:19,853 --> 01:41:22,453
Speaker 2: they would have to say the spring Box are the favorites.

1955
01:41:22,453 --> 01:41:24,173
Speaker 2: I would have thought, given their performances of the last

1956
01:41:24,213 --> 01:41:26,373
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, right, and contrasting those with these, you know,

1957
01:41:26,413 --> 01:41:29,693
Speaker 2: the slightly inconsistent performances of the All Blacks. Yeah, that

1958
01:41:30,213 --> 01:41:32,733
Speaker 2: being said, is so hard to make a call.

1959
01:41:32,733 --> 01:41:35,413
Speaker 21: It is, And I think if you're looking for dispassionate analysis,

1960
01:41:35,413 --> 01:41:37,213
Speaker 21: you go to the bookies, because that's what they're doing.

1961
01:41:37,293 --> 01:41:39,613
Speaker 21: They're you know, they're they're obviously looking at it through

1962
01:41:39,733 --> 01:41:42,013
Speaker 21: cool headed logic and saying, well, this is how we're

1963
01:41:42,013 --> 01:41:45,853
Speaker 21: framing up the market. I you know, I think it's

1964
01:41:45,853 --> 01:41:47,413
Speaker 21: All Blacks fans. We expect the All Blacks to win

1965
01:41:47,413 --> 01:41:47,813
Speaker 21: every match.

1966
01:41:47,893 --> 01:41:48,453
Speaker 3: Yeah, we just do.

1967
01:41:48,813 --> 01:41:51,333
Speaker 21: Regardless what's come before or what lies in the future.

1968
01:41:51,373 --> 01:41:53,013
Speaker 21: We just expect every time they go out that they're

1969
01:41:53,053 --> 01:41:54,533
Speaker 21: going to win the Test match. I've said to a

1970
01:41:54,533 --> 01:41:56,613
Speaker 21: couple of people, do you think they would accept the

1971
01:41:56,653 --> 01:41:59,773
Speaker 21: All Blacks this is a one all series result. It's

1972
01:41:59,773 --> 01:42:02,133
Speaker 21: part of the part of the Rugby Championship obviously, but

1973
01:42:02,293 --> 01:42:04,373
Speaker 21: a win and a loss and these two test matches

1974
01:42:04,373 --> 01:42:06,733
Speaker 21: over the next two weekends and most people say no, no,

1975
01:42:06,773 --> 01:42:10,453
Speaker 21: they wouldn't even privately that'd say no, we are the

1976
01:42:10,453 --> 01:42:12,613
Speaker 21: All Blacks. We go out to win every single Test match.

1977
01:42:12,613 --> 01:42:14,093
Speaker 21: And I think the fans are on that band wagon

1978
01:42:14,093 --> 01:42:14,853
Speaker 21: for the most part as well.

1979
01:42:14,893 --> 01:42:17,453
Speaker 2: You Yeah, I think so too. Anna Taylor, first New

1980
01:42:17,573 --> 01:42:20,533
Speaker 2: Zealand medal at the Paris Paralympics, so the metal fantastic.

1981
01:42:20,613 --> 01:42:23,453
Speaker 21: A yeah, first of a few, I hope. I've just

1982
01:42:23,453 --> 01:42:25,933
Speaker 21: looked ahead to the head of the to the next

1983
01:42:25,933 --> 01:42:28,133
Speaker 21: couple of days and there are more medals in the offering.

1984
01:42:28,453 --> 01:42:31,173
Speaker 21: Really looking forward to watching two poor newfi in the

1985
01:42:31,173 --> 01:42:34,573
Speaker 21: backstroke to the heater is tonight, the final, I think

1986
01:42:34,613 --> 01:42:36,773
Speaker 21: at halftime in the rugby tomorrow, so that's worked out

1987
01:42:36,853 --> 01:42:39,213
Speaker 21: quite well. Around four o'clock, she swims hopefully in the

1988
01:42:39,253 --> 01:42:41,613
Speaker 21: final to look to defend her her gold medal there.

1989
01:42:41,653 --> 01:42:44,453
Speaker 21: But yeah, it's just I mean, yeah, I just love

1990
01:42:44,613 --> 01:42:48,373
Speaker 21: I just love the Paralympics. Honestly, I just just marvel

1991
01:42:48,413 --> 01:42:50,493
Speaker 21: at the at the human spirit on display.

1992
01:42:50,573 --> 01:42:52,653
Speaker 2: Just terrific. Totally. What's on the show this afternoon?

1993
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Speaker 21: Sean Fitzpatrick leads us off, looking forward to chatting to

1994
01:42:55,173 --> 01:42:58,893
Speaker 21: fits the after midday and then Brighton paulser a Springbok

1995
01:42:58,973 --> 01:43:04,213
Speaker 21: winger of great ability, pace, speed, incisiveness as well. Yeah,

1996
01:43:04,213 --> 01:43:06,053
Speaker 21: so they're our sort of our main guest. I'm looking

1997
01:43:06,053 --> 01:43:07,813
Speaker 21: forward to a want of chat with the with the

1998
01:43:07,813 --> 01:43:12,053
Speaker 21: weekend sport audience, just to gauge the levels of optimism, nervousness, pessimism,

1999
01:43:12,093 --> 01:43:12,573
Speaker 21: all that stuff.

2000
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Speaker 2: Jack very good, looking forward to it, Thank you, sir.

2001
01:43:14,613 --> 01:43:15,053
Speaker 3: Thanks Mite.

2002
01:43:15,133 --> 01:43:17,173
Speaker 2: Jason Pine behind the mic for a weekend sport He

2003
01:43:17,213 --> 01:43:19,773
Speaker 2: will be with us right after the midday news. Before

2004
01:43:19,813 --> 01:43:22,013
Speaker 2: midday we've got that new music view from John Legend

2005
01:43:22,213 --> 01:43:24,773
Speaker 2: his new children's album and next up your book picks

2006
01:43:24,813 --> 01:43:26,853
Speaker 2: for this weekend twenty three to twelve.

2007
01:43:27,453 --> 01:43:30,133
Speaker 3: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

2008
01:43:30,293 --> 01:43:33,493
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and bepwured dot co dot

2009
01:43:33,533 --> 01:43:36,493
Speaker 1: Nz for high quality supplements used Talks.

2010
01:43:36,253 --> 01:43:39,333
Speaker 2: NB News Dogs v twenty one to twelve for message

2011
01:43:39,373 --> 01:43:40,773
Speaker 2: on the text Jack, Where do I find that an

2012
01:43:40,773 --> 01:43:42,573
Speaker 2: amazing interview with Sophie Pasco? I want to share it

2013
01:43:42,613 --> 01:43:45,373
Speaker 2: with my mates easy news Talk ZB dot co dot

2014
01:43:45,453 --> 01:43:47,933
Speaker 2: Nz Forward slash Jack. That should be up there very shortly,

2015
01:43:48,013 --> 01:43:50,053
Speaker 2: so if you didn't hear our feature interview with Sophie

2016
01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:51,373
Speaker 2: Pasco this morning. It was just one of those really

2017
01:43:51,453 --> 01:43:54,333
Speaker 2: amazing I don't know, kind of yeah. She was just

2018
01:43:54,333 --> 01:43:57,093
Speaker 2: so open, you know, it's just, you know what, It's

2019
01:43:57,133 --> 01:43:59,453
Speaker 2: just it is so nice to speak to, you know,

2020
01:43:59,533 --> 01:44:01,493
Speaker 2: athletes who have lots of other things in their lives

2021
01:44:01,493 --> 01:44:04,573
Speaker 2: as well, and you know, who are able to speak

2022
01:44:04,613 --> 01:44:07,133
Speaker 2: with the kind of eloquence that she did this morning.

2023
01:44:07,173 --> 01:44:09,013
Speaker 2: So really enjoyed that interview, and that's the place to

2024
01:44:09,013 --> 01:44:11,253
Speaker 2: go if you would like to hear it. Twenty to twelve.

2025
01:44:11,293 --> 01:44:13,053
Speaker 2: That means it's time to catch up with Katherin Rain's

2026
01:44:13,053 --> 01:44:15,493
Speaker 2: our book reviewer. She's got two reads for us this weekend.

2027
01:44:15,853 --> 01:44:19,053
Speaker 2: Go to Catherine morning Jack. Okay, let's begin with The

2028
01:44:19,053 --> 01:44:20,933
Speaker 2: Briar Club by Kate Quinn.

2029
01:44:21,453 --> 01:44:24,413
Speaker 10: So this is set in the nineteen fifties in America,

2030
01:44:24,453 --> 01:44:26,893
Speaker 10: where who is They are deep in the paranora of

2031
01:44:27,013 --> 01:44:31,493
Speaker 10: McCarthyism and deep suspicion, and there's this landlady, missus Nelson,

2032
01:44:31,493 --> 01:44:34,333
Speaker 10: and she's suspicious of everything, and there's the Korean War

2033
01:44:34,533 --> 01:44:36,813
Speaker 10: going on in the background, and gangs and crops and

2034
01:44:36,973 --> 01:44:39,853
Speaker 10: corruption and prejudice and judgment to name a few kind

2035
01:44:39,893 --> 01:44:42,373
Speaker 10: of strong themes going through this book. And the story

2036
01:44:42,373 --> 01:44:45,133
Speaker 10: actually begins in nineteen fifty four at a woman's boarding

2037
01:44:45,133 --> 01:44:47,973
Speaker 10: house called the briar Wood House on Thanksgiving Day and

2038
01:44:48,013 --> 01:44:51,333
Speaker 10: a brutal murder occurs, and one of the Borders might

2039
01:44:51,413 --> 01:44:54,013
Speaker 10: be the culprit, but the identity of the actual victim

2040
01:44:54,093 --> 01:44:56,453
Speaker 10: no one knows who it is, although they know it

2041
01:44:56,493 --> 01:44:58,973
Speaker 10: took place in the room of a boarder named Grace March.

2042
01:44:59,533 --> 01:45:01,973
Speaker 10: And then you jump back four years to nineteen fifty

2043
01:45:02,053 --> 01:45:05,693
Speaker 10: and you follow thirteen year old Pete Nelson, who shoulders

2044
01:45:05,733 --> 01:45:07,733
Speaker 10: only more respon it's abilities than he should at a

2045
01:45:07,773 --> 01:45:09,653
Speaker 10: young age, to help his mother out as a handyman

2046
01:45:09,693 --> 01:45:11,773
Speaker 10: at the boarding house, and he takes care of his

2047
01:45:11,853 --> 01:45:14,333
Speaker 10: sister who has a learning disorder, and so through his

2048
01:45:14,413 --> 01:45:16,853
Speaker 10: perspective you get to meet all of the Borders. So

2049
01:45:17,013 --> 01:45:19,573
Speaker 10: Grace March herself, who's this very mysterious widow and she

2050
01:45:19,613 --> 01:45:22,573
Speaker 10: doesn't talk about her past, but she's really good friends

2051
01:45:22,573 --> 01:45:24,973
Speaker 10: and manages to create friends with the other Borders. And

2052
01:45:25,013 --> 01:45:27,493
Speaker 10: there's a young mother, Fliss, whose doctor husband works in

2053
01:45:27,533 --> 01:45:30,613
Speaker 10: San Diego, and Nora who's twenty ten weeks for the

2054
01:45:30,653 --> 01:45:33,613
Speaker 10: National Archives, and many other characters that are kind of

2055
01:45:33,693 --> 01:45:36,773
Speaker 10: engrossed in this story, and each of them different backgrounds

2056
01:45:36,773 --> 01:45:39,173
Speaker 10: and dealing with their own demons and secrets and regrets.

2057
01:45:39,253 --> 01:45:41,813
Speaker 10: And they gather in graces at it Groom for dinners

2058
01:45:41,893 --> 01:45:44,573
Speaker 10: every Thursday night, and this brings a sense of friendship,

2059
01:45:44,613 --> 01:45:49,053
Speaker 10: even though the landlady, missus Nielsen, is not particularly pleasant.

2060
01:45:49,093 --> 01:45:51,973
Speaker 10: And each chapter alternates between the residents backgrounds and their

2061
01:45:51,973 --> 01:45:55,093
Speaker 10: current lives, and chapters also told from the perspective of

2062
01:45:55,133 --> 01:45:57,853
Speaker 10: the house, which adds the sort of supernatural element to it,

2063
01:45:58,573 --> 01:46:01,013
Speaker 10: and they, you know, and you can tell some stories

2064
01:46:01,213 --> 01:46:03,893
Speaker 10: and secrets and so that element of the supernatural and

2065
01:46:03,933 --> 01:46:06,453
Speaker 10: caught up in these lives. And it starts slowly, but

2066
01:46:06,493 --> 01:46:10,373
Speaker 10: it builds in its intensity in suspense and really interesting

2067
01:46:10,413 --> 01:46:11,533
Speaker 10: the way where it ends.

2068
01:46:11,453 --> 01:46:13,973
Speaker 2: Up, right, Yeah, cool, Okay. So that's The Brier Club

2069
01:46:14,093 --> 01:46:17,413
Speaker 2: by Kate Quinn. You've also read Girl Falling by Hailey Shrivner.

2070
01:46:17,973 --> 01:46:20,613
Speaker 10: So this is a psychological thriller, and it's told in

2071
01:46:20,973 --> 01:46:24,293
Speaker 10: alternating chapters, and the distinguish as either before or after,

2072
01:46:24,853 --> 01:46:27,653
Speaker 10: and it's about the aftermath of Finn's girlfriend, Mugdo, who

2073
01:46:27,693 --> 01:46:30,293
Speaker 10: falls to her death while hiking with Finn and Finn's

2074
01:46:30,373 --> 01:46:33,733
Speaker 10: best friend, Daphne, and you go back in time and

2075
01:46:33,853 --> 01:46:36,173
Speaker 10: Finn and Daphne are childhood friends and they share this

2076
01:46:37,133 --> 01:46:40,693
Speaker 10: united by shared grief, and they find their paths diverging

2077
01:46:40,733 --> 01:46:43,133
Speaker 10: as they enter their twenties and Finn's falling in love

2078
01:46:43,173 --> 01:46:47,253
Speaker 10: with Magdo's a newcomer to the group, and her presence

2079
01:46:47,293 --> 01:46:50,253
Speaker 10: threatens Daphne's control over her best friend, and she feels

2080
01:46:50,293 --> 01:46:52,573
Speaker 10: her grip on Finn's slipping out, and she begins to

2081
01:46:52,653 --> 01:46:55,853
Speaker 10: act in these very destructive ways, and their relationship spirals

2082
01:46:55,893 --> 01:46:59,493
Speaker 10: towards this tragic end where Magdo loses her life, and

2083
01:46:59,533 --> 01:47:02,133
Speaker 10: the mystery and it lies and whether it's accident, suicide,

2084
01:47:02,213 --> 01:47:06,933
Speaker 10: or something much more sinister. Yeah, and Finn's overwhelmed by

2085
01:47:06,973 --> 01:47:10,933
Speaker 10: Daphne's influence and her great lengths to maintain control. So

2086
01:47:10,973 --> 01:47:15,253
Speaker 10: what you get is this murder, mystery, thriller, grief, toxic

2087
01:47:15,333 --> 01:47:19,293
Speaker 10: female best friends and relationships and narratives about her We

2088
01:47:19,373 --> 01:47:21,573
Speaker 10: tell we are and you have this a lot of

2089
01:47:21,573 --> 01:47:24,653
Speaker 10: the stories told by Finn, and she's really unreliable in

2090
01:47:24,693 --> 01:47:26,573
Speaker 10: the way she tells her story, so it keeps you

2091
01:47:27,053 --> 01:47:29,733
Speaker 10: guessing right to the end. And those secrets and those

2092
01:47:29,773 --> 01:47:33,093
Speaker 10: who keep them and how they shape friendships and yeah,

2093
01:47:33,253 --> 01:47:35,013
Speaker 10: it keeps you on the edge of your seat, and

2094
01:47:35,053 --> 01:47:37,853
Speaker 10: the interrelationships between the three of them, and how the

2095
01:47:37,893 --> 01:47:40,613
Speaker 10: story unfolds from the very tragic events at the start.

2096
01:47:40,813 --> 01:47:43,613
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, cool, that sounds really good, Thank you, Catherine.

2097
01:47:43,973 --> 01:47:47,493
Speaker 2: So those books Girl Falling by Haley Scrivener and The

2098
01:47:47,533 --> 01:47:49,853
Speaker 2: Brier Club by Kate Quinn, both of them will be

2099
01:47:49,973 --> 01:47:52,733
Speaker 2: up on our website at sixteen to twelve. New music

2100
01:47:52,773 --> 01:47:55,773
Speaker 2: from John Legend just John Eddn't like you've not heard

2101
01:47:55,813 --> 01:47:56,293
Speaker 2: him before.

2102
01:47:56,693 --> 01:47:59,773
Speaker 1: Next giving you the inside scoop on all you need

2103
01:47:59,893 --> 01:48:03,013
Speaker 1: to us. Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Vpere dot

2104
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Speaker 1: co dot nzet for high quality supplements, news talk, send best.

2105
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Speaker 3: Friends, best friends. You and me weaponds forever.

2106
01:48:16,253 --> 01:48:23,373
Speaker 17: Friendship makes everything bad. You and me, we stick together,

2107
01:48:24,253 --> 01:48:30,213
Speaker 17: side by side, forever and ever home my hand. We'll

2108
01:48:30,373 --> 01:48:34,853
Speaker 17: dance each other through the rain. Without you, my life

2109
01:48:35,133 --> 01:48:39,213
Speaker 17: just wouldn't be the same. You, my Raine, both in

2110
01:48:39,253 --> 01:48:42,333
Speaker 17: the sun sky blue.

2111
01:48:42,653 --> 01:48:47,293
Speaker 2: I'm gree for far a friend like you. I mean,

2112
01:48:47,333 --> 01:48:53,653
Speaker 2: it's a bit cheesy, isn't it. I'm gonna appreciate it.

2113
01:48:53,693 --> 01:48:55,613
Speaker 2: I'm probably not the target audience. But that's all right.

2114
01:48:55,773 --> 01:49:00,493
Speaker 2: An amazing voice, incredible musician, No one's doubting that. But yeah,

2115
01:49:00,493 --> 01:49:02,453
Speaker 2: this is a bit of a different turn for John Legions.

2116
01:49:02,813 --> 01:49:05,613
Speaker 2: That's steplomatic, isn't it. He's just released a new album

2117
01:49:05,853 --> 01:49:09,973
Speaker 2: called My Favorite Dream. That song is called Friendship. As

2118
01:49:10,053 --> 01:49:12,413
Speaker 2: you may have guessed, this is a song for children,

2119
01:49:12,613 --> 01:49:14,213
Speaker 2: and Estelle Clifford's been listening to it.

2120
01:49:14,293 --> 01:49:20,133
Speaker 22: Hey, Estell, I've embraced the cheesy lullaby tones of John Legend.

2121
01:49:20,213 --> 01:49:21,053
Speaker 14: It has gone there.

2122
01:49:21,893 --> 01:49:23,733
Speaker 22: I kind of had a laugh about this because there

2123
01:49:23,853 --> 01:49:25,733
Speaker 22: was probably a time in my life where this would

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Speaker 22: have been really good, and I reckon it's the whole.

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Speaker 14: Baby toddler sort of age group for kids.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, and then my child from about three went full

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01:49:34,053 --> 01:49:38,373
Speaker 22: rock and nineties grunge punk, so I haven't really listened

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01:49:38,373 --> 01:49:41,653
Speaker 22: to subtle music with her for quite some time. But

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Speaker 22: there is a time and place where parents, grandparents, caregivers, no,

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01:49:45,373 --> 01:49:48,453
Speaker 22: you need some music that isn't over stimulating for your kids. Yeah,

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01:49:49,373 --> 01:49:51,493
Speaker 22: and so why not embrace John Legend. That guy's got

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Speaker 22: four children of his own. So if that's what you're

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01:49:53,973 --> 01:49:57,453
Speaker 22: surrounded by at home, the chaos, the madness, then then

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Speaker 22: go there right, like write some music for children. The

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01:50:01,093 --> 01:50:03,733
Speaker 22: weird thing is this actually started where he did like

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01:50:04,253 --> 01:50:06,773
Speaker 22: this playful little cover of a song. Has It's like

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01:50:06,933 --> 01:50:09,733
Speaker 22: that one of their Fisher and PI call toys play

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01:50:10,853 --> 01:50:13,173
Speaker 22: and I don't know the song my stuff, Like, obviously

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01:50:13,293 --> 01:50:15,213
Speaker 22: we did not get gifted this fisher and pipe. I

2140
01:50:15,293 --> 01:50:17,613
Speaker 22: generally don't like too many toys. That it was batteries,

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01:50:17,653 --> 01:50:20,933
Speaker 22: you know, they make a lot of noise. Yeah, yeah,

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01:50:21,013 --> 01:50:23,453
Speaker 22: But anyway, he did a little cover of the song

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01:50:23,493 --> 01:50:25,893
Speaker 22: because his kids really like it, and TikTok went wild.

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Speaker 14: Everyone's like, you should do a kid's album, and he's like,

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01:50:28,413 --> 01:50:30,373
Speaker 14: you know what, I will good.

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01:50:30,493 --> 01:50:33,733
Speaker 22: So then the album's kind of a mix of some covers,

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01:50:33,773 --> 01:50:39,253
Speaker 22: like he even covers Bob Marley in here, and I'm

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01:50:39,293 --> 01:50:41,213
Speaker 22: kind of like, well, that's cool, but also I'm okay

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01:50:41,253 --> 01:50:43,493
Speaker 22: with my kid listening to the original Bob Marley version.

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Speaker 14: But I guess he's going with that whole sunny vibe.

2151
01:50:46,613 --> 01:50:49,933
Speaker 22: He's singing about all the emotions al Tamabeki go through

2152
01:50:50,013 --> 01:50:53,053
Speaker 22: in one single day, and there's highs and lows very quickly,

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01:50:53,173 --> 01:50:55,253
Speaker 22: and I love that he's going there with a very

2154
01:50:55,853 --> 01:50:59,293
Speaker 22: positive spin that there's lots of orchestral stuff in Qoie.

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01:51:00,133 --> 01:51:03,653
Speaker 14: It's sort of like opening up the magic music box.

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01:51:03,853 --> 01:51:04,013
Speaker 15: You know.

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01:51:04,133 --> 01:51:06,293
Speaker 22: You can imagine you open and the light comes out,

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01:51:06,733 --> 01:51:10,253
Speaker 22: or you're skipping down Sesame Street, like I wouldn't be

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01:51:10,333 --> 01:51:11,853
Speaker 22: surprised if he has a feature.

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01:51:11,573 --> 01:51:13,453
Speaker 14: On Sesame Street. It's some fad.

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Speaker 22: So what that song there that you played Friendship? It's

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01:51:16,493 --> 01:51:18,693
Speaker 22: actually one of the bonus tracks, so it's very late

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01:51:18,773 --> 01:51:21,693
Speaker 22: in the run for me. I would have liked the

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01:51:21,773 --> 01:51:24,173
Speaker 22: songs he put his bonus tracks to be higher up

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01:51:24,413 --> 01:51:27,693
Speaker 22: in the track listing, right, because the covers are beautiful

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01:51:27,733 --> 01:51:30,373
Speaker 22: and everything, but they've got a little bit more pace

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01:51:30,493 --> 01:51:32,933
Speaker 22: and beat and probably a little bit more playfulness to them.

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Speaker 22: But I think he chose to go lullaby, and so

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01:51:36,493 --> 01:51:39,253
Speaker 22: he chose all the songs. It kind of fit yea

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01:51:39,613 --> 01:51:42,013
Speaker 22: and to that, you know, and that's everything you would

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01:51:42,013 --> 01:51:46,173
Speaker 22: imagine John Legend. It's his beautiful voice, it's crooney and swooney,

2172
01:51:46,413 --> 01:51:50,013
Speaker 22: and and it is exactly the lullab beautiful piano. The

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01:51:50,173 --> 01:51:53,653
Speaker 22: orchestral arrangements are gorgeous, like you know, like on a

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01:51:53,733 --> 01:51:55,773
Speaker 22: morning when you're feeling a bit sensitive and maybe your

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01:51:55,813 --> 01:51:58,253
Speaker 22: child is too it would be quite a nice album.

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01:51:59,093 --> 01:51:59,293
Speaker 20: I can.

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01:51:59,413 --> 01:52:01,373
Speaker 22: I can understand all the emotions he's going through when

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01:52:01,413 --> 01:52:04,413
Speaker 22: he's putting an album together like this, all the end

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01:52:04,453 --> 01:52:04,973
Speaker 22: of the day.

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01:52:04,893 --> 01:52:08,773
Speaker 14: Wind down and chuck it on again.

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01:52:08,853 --> 01:52:10,893
Speaker 22: In our household, we've kind of sometimes gone for quite

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01:52:10,973 --> 01:52:14,453
Speaker 22: upbeat children's albums because we need to shake off our

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01:52:14,493 --> 01:52:16,813
Speaker 22: sillies and get some energy out.

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01:52:16,893 --> 01:52:19,333
Speaker 14: But but I like that he's gone somewhere beautiful for

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01:52:19,413 --> 01:52:20,133
Speaker 14: preschoolers to go.

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01:52:20,293 --> 01:52:21,813
Speaker 22: It's safe, you can put it on and not worry

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01:52:21,813 --> 01:52:24,133
Speaker 22: about what sweet are going to come out of someone's mouth.

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01:52:24,173 --> 01:52:29,693
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, that's certainly certainly mummy, Yeah, yeah it's

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01:52:30,493 --> 01:52:32,733
Speaker 2: And look I probably still go this over like a

2190
01:52:32,813 --> 01:52:34,133
Speaker 2: baby shark or something, you.

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01:52:34,173 --> 01:52:37,613
Speaker 22: Know, absolutely, because the melodies that you're going to get

2192
01:52:37,613 --> 01:52:39,693
Speaker 22: stuck in your head are quite beautiful songs, and people

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01:52:39,733 --> 01:52:42,453
Speaker 22: will think you're just singing some beautiful John legend totally yeah,

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01:52:42,733 --> 01:52:44,053
Speaker 22: not driving them.

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01:52:44,013 --> 01:52:47,973
Speaker 2: Crazy, friend, And I'll hold your hair, yeah right, like.

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01:52:48,013 --> 01:52:50,013
Speaker 22: As an opposed to psycholoic, I mean, I won't even

2197
01:52:50,053 --> 01:52:52,973
Speaker 22: start because people you say baby shop and they already

2198
01:52:53,133 --> 01:52:56,293
Speaker 22: can hear that. So a little less repetitious and something

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01:52:56,293 --> 01:52:58,573
Speaker 22: a little bit different. He's actually now teamed up, I

2200
01:52:58,613 --> 01:53:04,773
Speaker 22: think with Fisher and Pykel to do something right, Like

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Speaker 22: I mean, yeah, test the test audience. He's got his household,

2202
01:53:09,173 --> 01:53:11,613
Speaker 22: he's finding another way to Yeah, like you say, put

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01:53:11,693 --> 01:53:14,133
Speaker 22: some money in those musical money boxes.

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01:53:14,413 --> 01:53:19,973
Speaker 2: I'm sure there, I'm at the moment, Yeah, cynical, I should.

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01:53:20,533 --> 01:53:20,813
Speaker 15: I was.

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01:53:20,973 --> 01:53:22,573
Speaker 22: I was literally a little bit like that when I

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01:53:22,613 --> 01:53:24,533
Speaker 22: was listening to it, being like, oh my gosh, it's

2208
01:53:24,813 --> 01:53:27,373
Speaker 22: you know, it's cheesy, but but some kids things just

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01:53:27,493 --> 01:53:28,373
Speaker 22: are sometimes.

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01:53:29,573 --> 01:53:29,773
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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01:53:29,813 --> 01:53:32,733
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, I think I probably would still play a

2212
01:53:32,853 --> 01:53:35,333
Speaker 22: Nick Moore's Children album that was going to be my

2213
01:53:35,413 --> 01:53:39,653
Speaker 22: next question, Yeah, because it's a bit different than storytelling

2214
01:53:39,693 --> 01:53:42,213
Speaker 22: and characters, and I don't always want to sit with

2215
01:53:42,253 --> 01:53:42,893
Speaker 22: the lullabies.

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01:53:42,933 --> 01:53:45,773
Speaker 14: I think kids need a bit more through an album.

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01:53:46,533 --> 01:53:50,493
Speaker 2: Do you want just a complete off pieced option as well? Yeah,

2218
01:53:51,053 --> 01:53:54,573
Speaker 2: if you're on Spotify or streaming service, search trap songs

2219
01:53:54,653 --> 01:53:58,493
Speaker 2: for kids really Yeah, Yeah, there's a whole there's a

2220
01:53:58,533 --> 01:54:03,653
Speaker 2: whole genre of for any of ourisons who aren't familiar

2221
01:54:03,693 --> 01:54:05,573
Speaker 2: with trap music, it's kind of a form of like

2222
01:54:05,813 --> 01:54:09,413
Speaker 2: really kind of grimy R and B hip hop rap

2223
01:54:10,253 --> 01:54:13,853
Speaker 2: kind of music. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's from like

2224
01:54:14,053 --> 01:54:16,533
Speaker 2: from the South, like from from Georgia in the US.

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01:54:16,613 --> 01:54:19,533
Speaker 2: You know anyway, you know that there are no like this,

2226
01:54:19,933 --> 01:54:22,013
Speaker 2: like trap songs called I Love my Mum and stuff

2227
01:54:22,053 --> 01:54:22,213
Speaker 2: like that.

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01:54:22,453 --> 01:54:23,133
Speaker 3: That's so cool.

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01:54:23,293 --> 01:54:27,173
Speaker 22: Yeah yeah, and that's that's kind of probably more our

2230
01:54:27,253 --> 01:54:30,573
Speaker 22: realm checking out some of the more yeah, fun but

2231
01:54:30,733 --> 01:54:32,333
Speaker 22: kind of music that you as an adult can stand

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01:54:32,373 --> 01:54:33,133
Speaker 22: to listen to as well.

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01:54:33,213 --> 01:54:34,333
Speaker 14: This is always the hard balance.

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01:54:34,453 --> 01:54:35,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly.

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01:54:36,933 --> 01:54:38,773
Speaker 22: But if you if you need some quiet moments and

2236
01:54:38,813 --> 01:54:40,213
Speaker 22: you and you want to have a little bit of

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01:54:40,533 --> 01:54:42,373
Speaker 22: round the piano with with John, then you know.

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01:54:42,693 --> 01:54:43,093
Speaker 7: What do you do?

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01:54:43,173 --> 01:54:44,413
Speaker 14: It's it's okay.

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Speaker 2: Generous seven out of things.

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01:54:50,173 --> 01:54:53,253
Speaker 14: Christmas time when he's got toys coming up.

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01:54:53,773 --> 01:54:56,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's Christmas album, no doubt get re released

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01:54:56,253 --> 01:55:00,133
Speaker 2: for an extra song or two. Hey, thank you very

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01:55:00,213 --> 01:55:02,053
Speaker 2: much a stelle all right, seven out of teen for

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01:55:02,133 --> 01:55:04,933
Speaker 2: my favorite dream by John Legend, like like we say

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01:55:05,013 --> 01:55:07,013
Speaker 2: the right time and place the ride. This could be

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01:55:07,053 --> 01:55:08,453
Speaker 2: a great option. We'll have a bit more of a

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01:55:08,493 --> 01:55:09,773
Speaker 2: listen to it. In a couple of minutes, we'll pick

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01:55:09,813 --> 01:55:12,093
Speaker 2: up one of the good songs. Seven to twelve on Newstalks.

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Speaker 1: EDB A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday Mornings

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Speaker 2: you need to know. How right after the midday news,

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Speaker 2: Jason Pine will be with us with weekend sport counting

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Speaker 2: down to the All Blacks spring Box at Ellis Park,

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Speaker 2: all throughout the morning. Thanks to my wonderful producer Libby

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01:55:51,373 --> 01:55:54,173
Speaker 2: for doing all the tough stuff and for getting her

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01:55:54,253 --> 01:55:57,173
Speaker 2: favorite muso, John Legend back on the show Fair Call

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01:55:57,453 --> 01:55:59,533
Speaker 2: She Reckons. This album's a dead set ten out of ten,

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01:55:59,573 --> 01:56:03,413
Speaker 2: so there you go. The album is my favorite dream.

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01:56:04,053 --> 01:56:07,053
Speaker 2: This song is called l O v E. Seeing its

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01:56:07,133 --> 01:56:08,293
Speaker 2: way like sweater?

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01:56:08,893 --> 01:56:13,133
Speaker 3: Aren't you glad to know that You've got love? Love

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01:56:14,093 --> 01:56:18,893
Speaker 3: make shud be brighter? Love Love lose like a fire?

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01:56:19,493 --> 01:56:22,533
Speaker 3: Love Love aren't you inspired?

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01:56:22,813 --> 01:56:26,173
Speaker 4: The Little Life way every day is.

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01:56:26,613 --> 01:56:34,413
Speaker 3: Love yo, love love, love, love, love.

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01:56:36,693 --> 01:56:42,653
Speaker 17: Light, Little life when every day is hell oh he loved.

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01:56:42,853 --> 01:56:47,813
Speaker 17: It's easy to spell, and if you know it for yourself,

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01:56:49,013 --> 01:56:51,293
Speaker 17: you can give it out as well.

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01:56:52,693 --> 01:56:55,653
Speaker 4: Everybody long, love.

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01:56:57,213 --> 01:57:02,293
Speaker 3: Ye love, love, love.

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01:57:02,213 --> 01:57:03,093
Speaker 2: Love, love.

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01:57:04,853 --> 01:57:05,173
Speaker 1: Blood.

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01:57:05,693 --> 01:57:09,613
Speaker 2: Little life everyday is love.

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Speaker 3: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.

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