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Speaker 2: Be The cost of playing amateursport is becoming a growing issue,

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Speaker 2: survive as well well. As Some clubs experiment with ways

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Speaker 2: to reduce barriers for young players. Others say rising costs

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Speaker 2: grassroots participation. Other clubs are struggling to balance affordability for

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Speaker 2: Coaching and sports management professional Stephen Dillon has written about

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Speaker 2: this problem regularly and some possible solutions for it, he

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Speaker 2: joins us. Now, Stephen, thanks for taking the time this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: How serious is the issue of participation cost in amateur

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Speaker 3: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: Well, it certainly is important because it's a topic which

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Speaker 5: comes up each year from both sides, from the parents,

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Speaker 5: conversation comes up on the other side from the clubs, which,

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Speaker 5: as you said in the introduction, are looking at different

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Speaker 5: important issue comes around each year and hopefully the clubs,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about some possible solutions with you

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Speaker 2: but is the risk that if solutions aren't found, we're

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, we don't want this sport to become a sport

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Speaker 5: The beauty of football particularly is that it is a

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Speaker 5: From my experience, there's a mixture of both. I mean,

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Speaker 5: The sport that would not exist without them. I mean,

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Speaker 5: So that's really really crucial. And likewise, even when it

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Speaker 2: All, Right, Stephen, If cost is the problem and it is,

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Speaker 5: Again, it would differ from club to club, and every

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Speaker 5: that there could be some minor solutions which think, Okay,

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Speaker 5: Absolutely probably the questions I get asked for the most pint.

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Speaker 5: I think the first part would just be some transparency

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Speaker 2: Well, you've given us plenty of overthought just to finish, Steven,

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Speaker 5: Absolutely do. I love it first of all, and seeing

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Speaker 5: Sometimes we just don't quite.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, absolutely, amateur sport will thrive in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Good to hear. Thanks so much for joining us this afternoon, Stephen,

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Speaker 2: No, thank you for coming on, Stephen. Stephen Dylan, coaching

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Speaker 1: If it matters in sport, it matters here. We can

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Speaker 2: That'd be twelve twenty nine on weekend sport. Oh eight

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Speaker 2: You know, the advertising that we get on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: I think there's still a huge appetite for kids to play,

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Speaker 2: That just cuts out an entire segment of the community

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00:23:34,307 --> 00:23:38,347
Speaker 2: from getting involved in something which has huge benefits, huge

436
00:23:38,347 --> 00:23:42,187
Speaker 2: benefits to them. Being active, we're told time and time

437
00:23:42,227 --> 00:23:44,947
Speaker 2: and time again, is so important to our young people,

438
00:23:44,987 --> 00:23:51,907
Speaker 2: getting involved in team sport, learning about you know, team work,

439
00:23:52,387 --> 00:23:56,347
Speaker 2: getting fresh air for goodness sake, running around, getting exercise

440
00:23:56,387 --> 00:23:58,187
Speaker 2: instead of sitting on a couch and playing on that

441
00:23:58,987 --> 00:24:02,747
Speaker 2: on that PlayStation or that xbox. If the opportunity is

442
00:24:02,787 --> 00:24:09,027
Speaker 2: not there through cost, then we really are running, you know,

443
00:24:09,107 --> 00:24:15,307
Speaker 2: down a pretty a pretty fraught path. Ponem of the

444
00:24:15,427 --> 00:24:18,067
Speaker 2: use is this one that sports club fees should be

445
00:24:18,067 --> 00:24:20,787
Speaker 2: tax deductible. The benefits to the community and the club

446
00:24:20,867 --> 00:24:24,067
Speaker 2: make it worthwhile. Food for thought. Mass is of it

447
00:24:24,187 --> 00:24:26,387
Speaker 2: usmall business, but I sponsor an amazing young lady in

448
00:24:26,467 --> 00:24:29,827
Speaker 2: rowing it's tax deductible, So I say people like myself

449
00:24:29,827 --> 00:24:32,187
Speaker 2: should get out and sponsor some young up and comers.

450
00:24:32,987 --> 00:24:36,307
Speaker 2: Thanks Mars, Thanks for the text and another related topic

451
00:24:36,347 --> 00:24:39,267
Speaker 2: here to get our school team to the secondary School

452
00:24:39,347 --> 00:24:44,947
Speaker 2: Touch Nationals. The flights alone are twenty three grand Touch

453
00:24:45,027 --> 00:24:47,387
Speaker 2: New Zealander, holding it in Gisbon, nice place and all

454
00:24:47,867 --> 00:24:53,987
Speaker 2: but isolated and lacking accommodation. Again, it's another I guess

455
00:24:54,027 --> 00:24:56,867
Speaker 2: related issue. We'd love to hear from you. Eight hundred

456
00:24:56,867 --> 00:25:00,027
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty lines are open. Just got through

457
00:25:00,107 --> 00:25:03,067
Speaker 2: from Tartuki Auckland. You might have heard last night about

458
00:25:03,107 --> 00:25:09,147
Speaker 2: the power issue at North Harbor Stadium, Tatucki Auckland Unlimited

459
00:25:09,147 --> 00:25:13,507
Speaker 2: have just sent through a statement about that, so I'm

460
00:25:13,587 --> 00:25:15,147
Speaker 2: keen to read that out to you as well. If

461
00:25:15,187 --> 00:25:18,067
Speaker 2: you were wondering what happened last night at the rugby

462
00:25:18,067 --> 00:25:20,547
Speaker 2: with you might have been listening on gold Sport. Actually

463
00:25:20,627 --> 00:25:23,787
Speaker 2: I was at the football, but I heard about this

464
00:25:23,867 --> 00:25:27,547
Speaker 2: kind of second hand and yeah, so basically what happened

465
00:25:27,627 --> 00:25:32,187
Speaker 2: is North Harbor Stadium experienced an unexpected power issue yesterday

466
00:25:32,707 --> 00:25:35,227
Speaker 2: that it affected one light tower, the stadium screen, and

467
00:25:35,307 --> 00:25:38,747
Speaker 2: broadcast power during the Mona Pacific A Highlanders game. Play

468
00:25:38,827 --> 00:25:42,187
Speaker 2: was temporarily halted while the issue was investigated before resuming

469
00:25:42,267 --> 00:25:46,867
Speaker 2: under reduced lighting conditions, Broadcast coverage was unable to be

470
00:25:46,947 --> 00:25:50,107
Speaker 2: restored in time to service the remainder of the match.

471
00:25:50,187 --> 00:25:55,027
Speaker 2: Power was restored once a fuse was replaced, and investigations

472
00:25:55,027 --> 00:25:59,347
Speaker 2: have found no fault with stadium infrastructure and equipment. So

473
00:25:59,387 --> 00:26:02,387
Speaker 2: I guess they just wanted to make that point that

474
00:26:02,467 --> 00:26:04,707
Speaker 2: it wasn't anything to do with the stadium last night.

475
00:26:04,747 --> 00:26:11,187
Speaker 2: It was it was circumstances beyond their control. Sarah, Hello, Hi,

476
00:26:11,267 --> 00:26:14,387
Speaker 2: how are you. I'm great, Sarah, Thanks, it's good.

477
00:26:15,347 --> 00:26:18,787
Speaker 7: So I'm just just calling about the subs for sports

478
00:26:18,907 --> 00:26:22,947
Speaker 7: and seas and you know all of the above that

479
00:26:23,427 --> 00:26:26,107
Speaker 7: contribute to winter and all that sort of thing.

480
00:26:26,307 --> 00:26:26,547
Speaker 2: Yep.

481
00:26:27,747 --> 00:26:32,747
Speaker 7: Yeah, so both both. I've got two boys, both playing rugby.

482
00:26:32,867 --> 00:26:35,987
Speaker 7: One hour is at high school playing high school level,

483
00:26:35,987 --> 00:26:41,787
Speaker 7: but the otherline still plays clubs and the districts that

484
00:26:41,907 --> 00:26:46,187
Speaker 7: his club comes under have a campaign. I think they've

485
00:26:46,187 --> 00:26:49,547
Speaker 7: had been running for about four years where no junior

486
00:26:49,547 --> 00:26:54,187
Speaker 7: club pays face. No one in that in any junior

487
00:26:54,227 --> 00:26:58,507
Speaker 7: club under that district pays fees for their children who

488
00:26:59,067 --> 00:26:59,867
Speaker 7: play rugby.

489
00:27:01,227 --> 00:27:06,787
Speaker 2: What district is it, Sarah, Counties Menecaw good on them, Yeah,

490
00:27:06,787 --> 00:27:08,947
Speaker 2: I think I've heard. I've heard of that. I heard

491
00:27:08,947 --> 00:27:10,907
Speaker 2: that that was the case recently. I didn't realize it

492
00:27:10,907 --> 00:27:14,267
Speaker 2: had gone back four years. That must make a huge difference,

493
00:27:14,267 --> 00:27:14,987
Speaker 2: doesn't it three.

494
00:27:14,907 --> 00:27:17,627
Speaker 7: Or four years? So there are still there are still

495
00:27:19,027 --> 00:27:21,987
Speaker 7: costs involved. Obviously each club they like, you know, they

496
00:27:22,027 --> 00:27:26,587
Speaker 7: want to they want to upgrade their club gear yearly

497
00:27:26,747 --> 00:27:29,707
Speaker 7: by yearly, what have you. So there are you know,

498
00:27:29,827 --> 00:27:33,787
Speaker 7: small costs involved, but the actual fact of play, you know,

499
00:27:33,907 --> 00:27:39,387
Speaker 7: kids being able to play sports is free. They've tried

500
00:27:39,427 --> 00:27:42,547
Speaker 7: to make it as easy as they can on families

501
00:27:43,467 --> 00:27:46,307
Speaker 7: while also giving these kids opportunities to, like you said,

502
00:27:46,347 --> 00:27:48,467
Speaker 7: get out of the house and get active and not

503
00:27:48,547 --> 00:27:52,547
Speaker 7: be stuck in front of televisions and gaming consoles.

504
00:27:52,947 --> 00:27:56,107
Speaker 2: We all know, Sarah, that you know, subs are are

505
00:27:56,187 --> 00:27:59,387
Speaker 2: a part of a revenue for clubs. So have the

506
00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:04,827
Speaker 2: Counties Manecow Union supported clubs to your knowledge in sort

507
00:28:04,867 --> 00:28:06,707
Speaker 2: of coming up with a short fall because I guess

508
00:28:06,707 --> 00:28:08,427
Speaker 2: I've got a I you've got a thousand kids playing ten

509
00:28:08,467 --> 00:28:11,707
Speaker 2: buck seage. What's that ten thousand, ten thousand dollars coming

510
00:28:11,707 --> 00:28:13,747
Speaker 2: into your coffers? If you don't have that, but you

511
00:28:13,787 --> 00:28:16,307
Speaker 2: still need to run your club, how does the short

512
00:28:16,307 --> 00:28:17,067
Speaker 2: fall get made.

513
00:28:16,947 --> 00:28:22,987
Speaker 7: Up so it comes back on I think the clubs themselves,

514
00:28:23,027 --> 00:28:25,547
Speaker 7: they have to come up with their own sort of

515
00:28:25,547 --> 00:28:30,347
Speaker 7: fundraising situations. I know there are clubs that.

516
00:28:30,307 --> 00:28:32,867
Speaker 8: They'll go out and do hay jobs, you know, the

517
00:28:32,907 --> 00:28:34,947
Speaker 8: more rural ones. I'll go out and they'll go and

518
00:28:35,507 --> 00:28:39,347
Speaker 8: doug and collect bales of hay for farmers and stuff,

519
00:28:39,347 --> 00:28:43,467
Speaker 8: and they earn money for their clubs doing that, which

520
00:28:43,507 --> 00:28:44,747
Speaker 8: you know that plays for all.

521
00:28:44,667 --> 00:28:48,707
Speaker 7: The nitty gritties. And then obviously if if a kid

522
00:28:48,747 --> 00:28:51,467
Speaker 7: comes through wants to play a season of rugby and

523
00:28:51,507 --> 00:28:55,067
Speaker 7: they want all the flash gear, then there's that small

524
00:28:55,107 --> 00:28:57,747
Speaker 7: cost of paying for the extra bit of gear rather

525
00:28:57,827 --> 00:29:00,547
Speaker 7: than you know, having a having a fee to actually

526
00:29:00,587 --> 00:29:02,987
Speaker 7: play the sports or play for the club, and then

527
00:29:03,067 --> 00:29:06,587
Speaker 7: the gear on top of it. It's you know, each

528
00:29:06,627 --> 00:29:09,147
Speaker 7: club are just sort of left to their own devices

529
00:29:09,187 --> 00:29:12,507
Speaker 7: to figure out how they're going to you know, make

530
00:29:12,787 --> 00:29:15,027
Speaker 7: make money in a bit of a profit for their

531
00:29:15,027 --> 00:29:16,907
Speaker 7: own club for their specific season.

532
00:29:17,067 --> 00:29:20,867
Speaker 2: Indeed, Yeah, well, I don't mind that. It's as you say,

533
00:29:20,867 --> 00:29:22,147
Speaker 2: it's left in the hands of the club, and you

534
00:29:22,187 --> 00:29:24,267
Speaker 2: hope that good people are running the club. And look,

535
00:29:24,547 --> 00:29:26,307
Speaker 2: I know a lot of clubs that I'm sure you do, Sarah,

536
00:29:26,427 --> 00:29:29,827
Speaker 2: have great people running them, mainly on a volunteer basis.

537
00:29:30,147 --> 00:29:32,787
Speaker 2: Sometimes it seems to be the same people coming back

538
00:29:32,787 --> 00:29:35,187
Speaker 2: week after week to do the volunteering. But I've just

539
00:29:35,267 --> 00:29:37,787
Speaker 2: as you've been chatting to me, a text has come through.

540
00:29:38,307 --> 00:29:42,227
Speaker 2: My eleven year old grandson's football subs are four hundred

541
00:29:42,347 --> 00:29:46,027
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars this year. See that are that's a

542
00:29:46,067 --> 00:29:46,587
Speaker 2: lot of money?

543
00:29:46,667 --> 00:29:46,827
Speaker 9: Ah?

544
00:29:47,867 --> 00:29:51,827
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah that is And I feel like I would

545
00:29:51,987 --> 00:29:55,027
Speaker 7: I would want to know, I would want to complete

546
00:29:55,067 --> 00:29:58,547
Speaker 7: an usher it myse breakdown of all those that costs.

547
00:29:59,427 --> 00:30:02,187
Speaker 7: Where is that money going to? What is it for us?

548
00:30:02,587 --> 00:30:02,667
Speaker 10: Like?

549
00:30:03,147 --> 00:30:04,867
Speaker 7: Don't get me wrong, I know, I know a pair

550
00:30:04,907 --> 00:30:07,307
Speaker 7: of socks probably cost a fifteen.

551
00:30:06,907 --> 00:30:09,747
Speaker 2: Bucks, not four hundred and fifty four.

552
00:30:10,107 --> 00:30:13,227
Speaker 7: And you know, if they want a personalized jersey for

553
00:30:13,267 --> 00:30:15,987
Speaker 7: the season, Okay, yeah, you've been looking at maybe about

554
00:30:15,987 --> 00:30:19,067
Speaker 7: forty fifty bucks for that. Where's the rest going?

555
00:30:19,867 --> 00:30:21,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, that does sound steep, doesn't it.

556
00:30:21,907 --> 00:30:25,587
Speaker 11: Yeah, one hundred and fifty. Yeah, my high school, my

557
00:30:25,707 --> 00:30:26,547
Speaker 11: high school.

558
00:30:26,267 --> 00:30:30,227
Speaker 7: Child, his rugby fees for the season aren't even that much.

559
00:30:31,227 --> 00:30:33,107
Speaker 2: Just before you go, Sarah, are you are you noticing

560
00:30:33,147 --> 00:30:36,067
Speaker 2: the impact? This is probably a silly question, but you know,

561
00:30:36,307 --> 00:30:39,747
Speaker 2: without the fees as an obstacle to participation, is it

562
00:30:39,787 --> 00:30:43,387
Speaker 2: obvious that that that numbers are healthy and that that

563
00:30:43,387 --> 00:30:45,067
Speaker 2: that is making a difference.

564
00:30:47,267 --> 00:30:50,747
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, one hundred. The last four years we've had

565
00:30:50,747 --> 00:30:54,667
Speaker 7: a great turnout in the little club that my my

566
00:30:54,707 --> 00:30:58,027
Speaker 7: younger boy plays for. It's one of these rural ones

567
00:30:58,067 --> 00:31:00,547
Speaker 7: in the in the middle of you know, the state

568
00:31:00,627 --> 00:31:02,667
Speaker 7: highway to type thing, and you know, it's a little

569
00:31:02,707 --> 00:31:08,187
Speaker 7: rural jobby and he Yeah, they have a fantastic number

570
00:31:08,227 --> 00:31:11,547
Speaker 7: of kids that come out and play every season, and

571
00:31:12,547 --> 00:31:15,027
Speaker 7: you know, some real loyal families in the area that

572
00:31:15,107 --> 00:31:18,707
Speaker 7: will keep coming back every single year. And the reduction

573
00:31:18,827 --> 00:31:22,467
Speaker 7: and you know, potential cross has been a huge help

574
00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:23,227
Speaker 7: for families.

575
00:31:24,427 --> 00:31:26,467
Speaker 2: Great to get your call, Sarah, Thanks for calling in

576
00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:29,187
Speaker 2: this afternoon. Really appreciate you giving us your experiences and

577
00:31:29,267 --> 00:31:33,907
Speaker 2: kudos to the County's Maniker Union for doing so. I'd

578
00:31:33,947 --> 00:31:36,667
Speaker 2: be really interested to hear about those clubs experiences, because,

579
00:31:36,707 --> 00:31:39,067
Speaker 2: as Sarah said, they kind of left to their own devices.

580
00:31:39,227 --> 00:31:42,787
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're given guidance, you know, about some possible

581
00:31:42,827 --> 00:31:46,147
Speaker 2: ways to make up the shortfall and revenue. The fact

582
00:31:46,187 --> 00:31:48,787
Speaker 2: of the matter is, though, that if you don't get

583
00:31:48,827 --> 00:31:54,227
Speaker 2: revenue from subs, then choices have to be made about

584
00:31:54,867 --> 00:31:56,947
Speaker 2: the things you can spend money on at your club

585
00:31:57,187 --> 00:32:01,027
Speaker 2: because you don't have that money. Right So, I'm sure

586
00:32:01,027 --> 00:32:05,987
Speaker 2: that there are maybe workshops being run or some contact

587
00:32:05,987 --> 00:32:08,187
Speaker 2: between club saying hey, this is working really well for us,

588
00:32:08,227 --> 00:32:10,187
Speaker 2: why don't you give this a go kind of thing,

589
00:32:10,747 --> 00:32:15,227
Speaker 2: you know, removing barriers to participation. You know, it's mainly financial.

590
00:32:15,427 --> 00:32:18,827
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, it's mainly financial. Sometimes it's geography, but

591
00:32:18,867 --> 00:32:22,067
Speaker 2: it's mainly financial. If you can remove that barrier, that's great.

592
00:32:22,187 --> 00:32:24,427
Speaker 2: Tick that box. But then you still have to run

593
00:32:24,467 --> 00:32:26,387
Speaker 2: your club, don't you. You still have to keep the lights

594
00:32:26,427 --> 00:32:29,787
Speaker 2: on and provide everything that a sports club provides to

595
00:32:29,867 --> 00:32:31,987
Speaker 2: its members, the ones who do pay, like the senior

596
00:32:31,987 --> 00:32:35,707
Speaker 2: members for example. Right, I've got here that this is donuts.

597
00:32:35,747 --> 00:32:36,787
Speaker 2: Is that your real name?

598
00:32:39,067 --> 00:32:39,147
Speaker 4: No?

599
00:32:39,307 --> 00:32:41,147
Speaker 11: Finding art, that's my nickname mate.

600
00:32:41,907 --> 00:32:44,347
Speaker 2: I'm pleased and I give full credit to your parents

601
00:32:44,347 --> 00:32:45,987
Speaker 2: for not naming you that. Good to chat to your mate,

602
00:32:45,987 --> 00:32:46,707
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

603
00:32:47,787 --> 00:32:49,547
Speaker 11: No, I were just talking about fees and all that

604
00:32:49,587 --> 00:32:52,947
Speaker 11: type of stuff. And at our local rugby club this year,

605
00:32:53,067 --> 00:32:57,027
Speaker 11: we've we're making zero fees for all junior rugby and Nepal.

606
00:32:57,067 --> 00:33:02,587
Speaker 11: We've got both organizations with us, so it's just a constancison.

607
00:33:02,907 --> 00:33:07,027
Speaker 11: We see that takeaway barriers and hopefully we'll see a

608
00:33:07,067 --> 00:33:09,787
Speaker 11: growth in both our sports. So that's kind of what

609
00:33:09,787 --> 00:33:10,627
Speaker 11: we're doing this year.

610
00:33:10,707 --> 00:33:13,107
Speaker 2: How much discussion went into it? And as I said

611
00:33:13,227 --> 00:33:15,147
Speaker 2: just before I brought you on the air, has there

612
00:33:15,187 --> 00:33:18,587
Speaker 2: been a you know, some conversation around how you make

613
00:33:18,667 --> 00:33:20,947
Speaker 2: up the short fall that you will have from not

614
00:33:21,067 --> 00:33:23,827
Speaker 2: having having those subs coming in the in the door?

615
00:33:24,747 --> 00:33:24,987
Speaker 11: Yeah.

616
00:33:25,027 --> 00:33:27,867
Speaker 12: So we've worked with a couple of partners, so a

617
00:33:27,907 --> 00:33:31,187
Speaker 12: couple of we've got a sponsor, one sponsor on board.

618
00:33:32,227 --> 00:33:35,747
Speaker 12: We've also got our local farmers that help us out

619
00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:38,787
Speaker 12: with carves and so we've decided even if we don't

620
00:33:39,387 --> 00:33:42,627
Speaker 12: it's going it cost us about thirty and grand even

621
00:33:42,667 --> 00:33:45,107
Speaker 12: if it's even if the club has to pay that

622
00:33:45,147 --> 00:33:46,507
Speaker 12: well as a club. We need to just go and

623
00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:48,947
Speaker 12: find other revenue streams and all that. We just want

624
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:51,107
Speaker 12: kids playing sports at the end of the day, so

625
00:33:51,427 --> 00:33:52,147
Speaker 12: we're pretty.

626
00:33:51,907 --> 00:33:54,427
Speaker 11: Happy with where we are. We're probably the first club

627
00:33:54,467 --> 00:33:56,747
Speaker 11: in Taranaki, I think to do that, probably for both

628
00:33:56,747 --> 00:34:00,667
Speaker 11: sports anyway, So we're just trying to get numbers in

629
00:34:00,667 --> 00:34:04,067
Speaker 11: our clubs. There's a struggle out there. So yeah, that's

630
00:34:04,107 --> 00:34:04,467
Speaker 11: all we are.

631
00:34:04,627 --> 00:34:06,187
Speaker 2: I just love the Senate you just said, don up,

632
00:34:06,387 --> 00:34:08,587
Speaker 2: we just want kids playing sport. I mean, put that

633
00:34:08,707 --> 00:34:10,587
Speaker 2: sentence in the middle of everything else that you do.

634
00:34:10,707 --> 00:34:12,747
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure you can go too far wrong. Yes,

635
00:34:12,787 --> 00:34:15,747
Speaker 2: it's perhaps a bit roast tinted and naive and generalizing,

636
00:34:15,787 --> 00:34:19,707
Speaker 2: but if you can have that as your motivation, then

637
00:34:19,747 --> 00:34:22,027
Speaker 2: you can you can work out from there. That's, by

638
00:34:22,027 --> 00:34:24,107
Speaker 2: the sounds of it, what you have decided to do.

639
00:34:25,587 --> 00:34:28,027
Speaker 11: Yeah, mate, you know the lady talk about a foinding

640
00:34:28,067 --> 00:34:29,587
Speaker 11: and all, you talk about a four hundred and fifty

641
00:34:29,587 --> 00:34:33,627
Speaker 11: dollars five fee. I just wonder how much of that

642
00:34:33,667 --> 00:34:35,427
Speaker 11: textually going to the junior sports and all that. It's

643
00:34:35,427 --> 00:34:38,067
Speaker 11: probably playing for coaches and all this type of stuff.

644
00:34:38,107 --> 00:34:40,667
Speaker 11: And that's where you know, rugby as a hole has

645
00:34:40,707 --> 00:34:43,187
Speaker 11: got a good foundation. You know, we've got support from

646
00:34:43,187 --> 00:34:46,067
Speaker 11: Taramaki Rugby. We get support from news Yell and rugby

647
00:34:46,107 --> 00:34:47,787
Speaker 11: and all that type of stuff. But at the end

648
00:34:47,827 --> 00:34:49,347
Speaker 11: of the day, you need to look after your own

649
00:34:50,027 --> 00:34:52,827
Speaker 11: when we're just trying to foster our own our own town.

650
00:34:53,147 --> 00:34:56,347
Speaker 11: And as look, kids playing sport is it and I

651
00:34:56,467 --> 00:34:58,667
Speaker 11: just like them to play rugby at cricket and sorry

652
00:34:59,027 --> 00:35:01,307
Speaker 11: rugby at netbull because they are the two sports that

653
00:35:01,747 --> 00:35:04,307
Speaker 11: I follow. But just kids playing sports at YouTube.

654
00:35:04,547 --> 00:35:06,227
Speaker 2: Good to have you man, Neil Barnes and the all

655
00:35:06,587 --> 00:35:07,507
Speaker 2: sit up donut.

656
00:35:08,667 --> 00:35:14,587
Speaker 11: Yeah no, good moves, good moves, yeah yeah.

657
00:35:14,067 --> 00:35:15,067
Speaker 3: Don't straight?

658
00:35:15,507 --> 00:35:17,947
Speaker 2: Oh good boy, good on your donut. Thanks for calling

659
00:35:17,987 --> 00:35:20,507
Speaker 2: in mate. Good chat to your callbeck anytime. Love chatting

660
00:35:20,547 --> 00:35:22,187
Speaker 2: to your great initiative at your club as well. Oh

661
00:35:22,227 --> 00:35:24,227
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighties our number. Call it

662
00:35:24,267 --> 00:35:26,187
Speaker 2: to one, will chat about this to one Warriors after

663
00:35:26,227 --> 00:35:28,507
Speaker 2: one and a few of you have been waiting for

664
00:35:28,547 --> 00:35:30,547
Speaker 2: the opportunity to get a few things off your chest

665
00:35:30,547 --> 00:35:33,307
Speaker 2: after last night, or maybe you haven't. Maybe you're okay

666
00:35:33,347 --> 00:35:35,267
Speaker 2: with it because this is elite sport, this is the

667
00:35:35,387 --> 00:35:39,027
Speaker 2: roller coaster. But we're talking grassroots stuff for the next

668
00:35:39,027 --> 00:35:41,307
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes or so eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

669
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Speaker 2: back with more after this on Weekend Sport.

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Speaker 1: From Grassroots to the grand Stand. Weekend Sport with Chason

671
00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:51,507
Speaker 1: Fine and GJ. Gard Nomes, New Zealand's most trusted home

672
00:35:51,587 --> 00:35:52,627
Speaker 1: builder Youth Talks.

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Speaker 2: That'd be twelve to one. Whoever that caller is on

674
00:35:56,307 --> 00:35:58,627
Speaker 2: the air. His name was Donut, Well, that's his nickname.

675
00:35:58,947 --> 00:36:01,507
Speaker 2: Is a legend. I loved hearing him talk a true GC.

676
00:36:02,627 --> 00:36:04,707
Speaker 2: I wait, well, I'm thinking work out what that means.

677
00:36:05,307 --> 00:36:08,907
Speaker 2: Think most people understand the abbreviation. Thanks for the text.

678
00:36:09,867 --> 00:36:12,547
Speaker 2: Just got our speaking of GCS. Just got a message

679
00:36:12,587 --> 00:36:16,467
Speaker 2: through from Nelson Sporting Royalty. I know you'll probably work

680
00:36:16,507 --> 00:36:18,267
Speaker 2: at her. Those of you and Nelson. When I read

681
00:36:18,267 --> 00:36:21,627
Speaker 2: this accurday Pinty, interesting discussion. I've been Treasurer of Nelson

682
00:36:21,707 --> 00:36:25,547
Speaker 2: Rugby Football Club for ten years now, President of FC Nelson.

683
00:36:25,547 --> 00:36:27,387
Speaker 2: That's the football club. I'd like to make two points.

684
00:36:27,787 --> 00:36:30,027
Speaker 2: At the rugby club. We've gone sub free for kids.

685
00:36:30,027 --> 00:36:32,107
Speaker 2: That wasn't driven through a drop in numbers, but more

686
00:36:32,147 --> 00:36:35,587
Speaker 2: around making it easier for kids to participate. At this point,

687
00:36:35,627 --> 00:36:39,267
Speaker 2: we haven't seen the massive uptaking numbers. As a consequence

688
00:36:39,307 --> 00:36:42,267
Speaker 2: of that, the affiliation fees charged by the Tasman Rugby

689
00:36:42,347 --> 00:36:45,907
Speaker 2: Union make it easier to absorb over At FC Nelson

690
00:36:45,987 --> 00:36:48,867
Speaker 2: kids are charged around two hundred dollars. The reason for

691
00:36:48,907 --> 00:36:51,187
Speaker 2: that is you have Mainland and New Zealand football taking

692
00:36:51,187 --> 00:36:53,987
Speaker 2: a sizable margin. On top of that, we have academies

693
00:36:54,027 --> 00:36:58,347
Speaker 2: that charge significant fees on top of the season subs. Thankfully,

694
00:36:59,067 --> 00:37:02,467
Speaker 2: kids and parents love football and are happy to pay. Lastly,

695
00:37:02,467 --> 00:37:05,027
Speaker 2: the one main consideration clubs need to take on board

696
00:37:05,067 --> 00:37:09,187
Speaker 2: now as they are essential businesses. Some are generating lots

697
00:37:09,187 --> 00:37:12,747
Speaker 2: of money. All clubs need to now become more commercially focused.

698
00:37:12,947 --> 00:37:16,107
Speaker 2: We've recently bought on brought on rather a commercial and

699
00:37:16,267 --> 00:37:19,987
Speaker 2: outreach manager at Nelson Rugby Football Club to look at

700
00:37:20,027 --> 00:37:24,187
Speaker 2: generating alternative income streams. We're just in the process of

701
00:37:24,347 --> 00:37:27,547
Speaker 2: creating a similar role at FC Nelson. Clubs need to

702
00:37:27,587 --> 00:37:29,027
Speaker 2: be adaptable.

703
00:37:29,707 --> 00:37:29,947
Speaker 4: JB.

704
00:37:30,147 --> 00:37:32,507
Speaker 2: Good to hear from you. I'm sure anybody in Nelson

705
00:37:32,547 --> 00:37:35,347
Speaker 2: listening will know who that is absolute legend of Nelson's

706
00:37:35,347 --> 00:37:38,027
Speaker 2: sport as indeed the entire family is JB. Great to

707
00:37:38,067 --> 00:37:41,547
Speaker 2: have you listening and love love that part of the country.

708
00:37:42,147 --> 00:37:45,227
Speaker 2: Pineama teacher says Jordan. We serve at about seven hundred

709
00:37:45,227 --> 00:37:48,027
Speaker 2: students last year at a large co ed high school.

710
00:37:48,547 --> 00:37:53,187
Speaker 2: Results showed satisfaction levels of sport participation much higher in

711
00:37:53,267 --> 00:37:56,827
Speaker 2: social sport than in our competitive teams. Very interesting. It

712
00:37:56,907 --> 00:38:00,227
Speaker 2: shows removing the high performance element, the pressure and the

713
00:38:00,267 --> 00:38:03,947
Speaker 2: adults most likely improves the experience. Thanks Jordan, Yip, you

714
00:38:03,987 --> 00:38:07,027
Speaker 2: wouldn't be the first person to suggest that. I've seen

715
00:38:07,107 --> 00:38:11,267
Speaker 2: very very similar things said in other areas. Jason says Paul.

716
00:38:11,307 --> 00:38:15,027
Speaker 2: Clubs and colleges should have a responsibility to share resources

717
00:38:15,027 --> 00:38:17,467
Speaker 2: and work together. They lose too many players through the changeover.

718
00:38:18,107 --> 00:38:20,307
Speaker 2: These would be paying members. My son and his mates

719
00:38:20,307 --> 00:38:22,627
Speaker 2: played at high school at second eleven, but none play

720
00:38:22,667 --> 00:38:25,507
Speaker 2: for their club now. I tried, but the club showed

721
00:38:25,627 --> 00:38:28,267
Speaker 2: very little interest. They're lost to football, although they all

722
00:38:28,307 --> 00:38:30,827
Speaker 2: follow it. Yeah, that's another one, isn't it. It's the

723
00:38:30,987 --> 00:38:35,427
Speaker 2: it's the it's the the regeneration of your club members

724
00:38:35,427 --> 00:38:40,147
Speaker 2: at the bottom end. You know, there's well, it's it's natural,

725
00:38:40,187 --> 00:38:43,147
Speaker 2: of course, it happens. Kids play at school and then

726
00:38:43,187 --> 00:38:45,507
Speaker 2: when they finish school, if they want to continue playing,

727
00:38:45,547 --> 00:38:48,587
Speaker 2: they should have a clearly defined place where they can go.

728
00:38:48,987 --> 00:38:53,667
Speaker 2: This is basketball's big challenge. I believe there's you know,

729
00:38:53,707 --> 00:38:56,627
Speaker 2: if you go, if you play rugby at school and

730
00:38:56,627 --> 00:38:58,467
Speaker 2: then you want to play rugby after you finished school,

731
00:38:58,467 --> 00:39:00,587
Speaker 2: you god eay club. Same in their poor samouth hockey,

732
00:39:00,627 --> 00:39:03,547
Speaker 2: samouth cricket, Same with a lot of sports. Basketball doesn't

733
00:39:03,547 --> 00:39:06,267
Speaker 2: have that, not a club system like a lot of

734
00:39:06,427 --> 00:39:11,867
Speaker 2: other sports do. The participation base for basketball is enormous

735
00:39:12,427 --> 00:39:15,187
Speaker 2: at secondary school. If that can be converted into a

736
00:39:15,187 --> 00:39:18,507
Speaker 2: club system somehow, where there's you know, in its typical sense,

737
00:39:19,027 --> 00:39:24,107
Speaker 2: Like I say, if you finish playing basketball at secondary school,

738
00:39:25,307 --> 00:39:29,907
Speaker 2: there's no obvious club system that you can go seamlessly

739
00:39:29,987 --> 00:39:32,867
Speaker 2: and easily into. Whereas you look, I know there's a

740
00:39:32,867 --> 00:39:35,187
Speaker 2: bunch of rugby clubs in Wellington that do this. They're

741
00:39:35,227 --> 00:39:36,907
Speaker 2: in the school saying hey, you know, and not just

742
00:39:36,947 --> 00:39:38,907
Speaker 2: with the first fifteen, but if you hey, if you're

743
00:39:38,987 --> 00:39:40,707
Speaker 2: thinking of taking up rugby when you you know, when

744
00:39:40,747 --> 00:39:43,187
Speaker 2: you leave school, here's a here's an opportunity down here

745
00:39:43,227 --> 00:39:45,667
Speaker 2: down the road at hard Old Boys Marrist or Pornicky

746
00:39:45,747 --> 00:39:49,307
Speaker 2: or Potoni or Upperheard or whatever it might be, that

747
00:39:49,507 --> 00:39:53,987
Speaker 2: they're they're they're showing you know, school leavers that they

748
00:39:53,987 --> 00:39:57,667
Speaker 2: can continue their rugby journey at a club basketball, like

749
00:39:57,707 --> 00:40:00,347
Speaker 2: I say, is the that's the that's the huge gap

750
00:40:00,587 --> 00:40:04,227
Speaker 2: in our basketball ecosystem. I know it's being addressed. Imagine

751
00:40:04,267 --> 00:40:05,867
Speaker 2: how powerful the sport could be if they got that

752
00:40:05,947 --> 00:40:07,587
Speaker 2: right away from one News TALKSB.

753
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Speaker 1: When there's a mind call, it's your call Weekend Sport

754
00:40:12,627 --> 00:40:14,867
Speaker 1: with Jason Vine News Talks.

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Speaker 2: V five to one. Many of the fine folk of

756
00:40:17,867 --> 00:40:19,867
Speaker 2: the Canterbury region have pointed out to me there is

757
00:40:19,907 --> 00:40:23,667
Speaker 2: a club system in christ Church for basketball once you

758
00:40:23,787 --> 00:40:27,227
Speaker 2: leave school. Good to know, good to know. I guess that.

759
00:40:27,307 --> 00:40:31,147
Speaker 2: You know, I'd love it to be more than just

760
00:40:31,267 --> 00:40:34,067
Speaker 2: add hoc around the place. You know, you think about

761
00:40:34,067 --> 00:40:38,307
Speaker 2: club rugby, okay, and club rugby is obviously steeped in history.

762
00:40:38,707 --> 00:40:40,947
Speaker 2: You leave school, you go and play for your club

763
00:40:41,027 --> 00:40:43,427
Speaker 2: at whatever level, and then you know, wrapped around that

764
00:40:43,587 --> 00:40:47,747
Speaker 2: is the clubrooms, experience and juniors are involved and store

765
00:40:47,747 --> 00:40:51,107
Speaker 2: the community involvement. Just you know, the I guess I'm

766
00:40:51,147 --> 00:40:53,827
Speaker 2: thinking about those who aren't playing at the elite level.

767
00:40:54,387 --> 00:40:55,987
Speaker 2: They go along, they play a game and then they

768
00:40:56,027 --> 00:40:58,507
Speaker 2: go to the clubrooms afterwards. Basketball is a bit different,

769
00:40:58,507 --> 00:41:00,347
Speaker 2: I know, because it's played at all sorts of different times,

770
00:41:00,787 --> 00:41:04,227
Speaker 2: but that community experience of going back to the clubrooms

771
00:41:04,547 --> 00:41:06,507
Speaker 2: was a huge part of why I got involved and

772
00:41:06,507 --> 00:41:09,387
Speaker 2: sport in the first place, just that camaraderie, have a

773
00:41:09,387 --> 00:41:12,907
Speaker 2: beer after the game and just mix with like minded people.

774
00:41:14,067 --> 00:41:16,827
Speaker 2: And if that's happening in christ Church basketball, then fantastic.

775
00:41:17,707 --> 00:41:20,027
Speaker 2: And I hope it stretches around the place because it

776
00:41:20,107 --> 00:41:22,507
Speaker 2: just doesn't seem as though that framework, that infrastructure is

777
00:41:22,547 --> 00:41:24,067
Speaker 2: there right now. But good to know what is happening

778
00:41:24,307 --> 00:41:26,387
Speaker 2: around the place because, as I said before, the numbers

779
00:41:26,587 --> 00:41:30,547
Speaker 2: playing that game at secondary school are astronomical and need

780
00:41:30,587 --> 00:41:33,067
Speaker 2: to be capitalized upon. Thanks for all your causing your feedback.

781
00:41:33,107 --> 00:41:36,147
Speaker 2: Really interesting discussion. We'll keep tabs on it. After one

782
00:41:36,987 --> 00:41:42,707
Speaker 2: The Warriors. The Warriors after one, the.

783
00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:45,707
Speaker 1: Only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on.

784
00:41:47,307 --> 00:41:48,347
Speaker 10: A pad off the field.

785
00:41:48,467 --> 00:41:49,467
Speaker 11: You've got a score enough.

786
00:41:49,747 --> 00:41:52,827
Speaker 1: It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason Vine on your

787
00:41:52,907 --> 00:41:57,147
Speaker 1: home of sports News Talks at ME one seven.

788
00:41:57,187 --> 00:41:58,987
Speaker 2: Welcome back into the show. Welcome into the show. If

789
00:41:58,987 --> 00:42:03,187
Speaker 2: this is your your first experience of listening in this afternoon,

790
00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:04,947
Speaker 2: good to have you with us one O seven. I'm

791
00:42:04,987 --> 00:42:08,107
Speaker 2: Jason Pine, Mark Kelly running the Cutter We're here till

792
00:42:08,107 --> 00:42:11,507
Speaker 2: three Warriors this hour. We'll get across the Tasman to

793
00:42:11,587 --> 00:42:15,787
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock and his regular slot. Many have sacked their

794
00:42:15,787 --> 00:42:19,227
Speaker 2: coach Manly's Adam Peacock's team, Well have it? Chad to

795
00:42:19,267 --> 00:42:21,667
Speaker 2: him about that and other bits and pieces around Australian sport.

796
00:42:21,907 --> 00:42:23,307
Speaker 2: Just to mop up a couple of texts from the

797
00:42:23,347 --> 00:42:25,267
Speaker 2: last hour. Our rugby club and Tallanaki is now a

798
00:42:25,307 --> 00:42:28,867
Speaker 2: sports club junior and senior rugby, netball, basketball and bowls,

799
00:42:28,907 --> 00:42:33,667
Speaker 2: all ages and abilities catered for. It's great sounds like

800
00:42:33,707 --> 00:42:37,067
Speaker 2: the way forward. Good discussion last hour, thanks indeed four

801
00:42:37,227 --> 00:42:42,387
Speaker 2: taking part in it. The warriors unbeaten start to the

802
00:42:42,427 --> 00:42:44,827
Speaker 2: season in League's NRL is over.

803
00:42:45,107 --> 00:42:48,747
Speaker 13: That'll be full time here at go Media about Smart

804
00:42:48,827 --> 00:42:53,267
Speaker 13: Stadium in Auckland. The West Tigers have ambushed the Warriors

805
00:42:53,787 --> 00:42:57,307
Speaker 13: and one fifty two points to forty.

806
00:42:57,667 --> 00:42:59,947
Speaker 2: After running out to an early ten yeerl lead, the

807
00:42:59,987 --> 00:43:03,907
Speaker 2: Warriors turned in a mediocre display, rarely conceding six tries

808
00:43:03,947 --> 00:43:06,067
Speaker 2: to three in front of a sold out crowd of

809
00:43:06,067 --> 00:43:09,427
Speaker 2: twenty four thousand. Bevan Dua was the voice you heard

810
00:43:09,427 --> 00:43:11,467
Speaker 2: their calling the game for Sky. He's with us now.

811
00:43:11,507 --> 00:43:15,307
Speaker 2: The Warriors had started the season so strongly. Bevan, how

812
00:43:15,347 --> 00:43:18,747
Speaker 2: surprising was that thirty two to fourteen lost to the

813
00:43:18,787 --> 00:43:19,747
Speaker 2: Tigers last.

814
00:43:19,587 --> 00:43:28,227
Speaker 14: Night, Yeah, Piney, rather surprising, especially on paper pro the game.

815
00:43:28,387 --> 00:43:32,027
Speaker 14: You know, the Warriors were pretty stacked competed that to

816
00:43:32,067 --> 00:43:35,947
Speaker 14: the Tigers. They had no real players leading any stats

817
00:43:35,987 --> 00:43:38,307
Speaker 14: in the NRL, granted the early days in the NRL,

818
00:43:38,507 --> 00:43:40,627
Speaker 14: but they had no Jerome Lewai. They had a very

819
00:43:40,667 --> 00:43:43,867
Speaker 14: young team, a rather an experienced team, and they've come

820
00:43:43,907 --> 00:43:48,027
Speaker 14: to go medium ount Smart Stadium in Auckland and they

821
00:43:48,107 --> 00:43:51,587
Speaker 14: ambushed us really or ambushed the Warriors at least catching

822
00:43:51,627 --> 00:43:52,507
Speaker 14: everyone off guard.

823
00:43:52,787 --> 00:43:55,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've mentioned that in your in your final whistle

824
00:43:55,707 --> 00:43:58,147
Speaker 2: call last night, the word ambushed. I don't think anybody

825
00:43:58,187 --> 00:43:59,747
Speaker 2: saw it coming. I saw some minds before the game.

826
00:43:59,787 --> 00:44:02,187
Speaker 2: I think the Tigers were paying four dollars thirty they

827
00:44:02,227 --> 00:44:04,427
Speaker 2: won the game, the Warriors a dollar twenty something like that.

828
00:44:04,587 --> 00:44:06,827
Speaker 2: Did they go away from what had worked for them

829
00:44:06,867 --> 00:44:10,107
Speaker 2: so well? The Warriors and they're opening three matches.

830
00:44:10,547 --> 00:44:11,467
Speaker 4: You know, it's hard to say.

831
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Speaker 14: Look, you can't go past the fact that Tigers defended

832
00:44:15,187 --> 00:44:17,027
Speaker 14: very well, especially in that second half.

833
00:44:17,227 --> 00:44:18,067
Speaker 4: The Warriors went.

834
00:44:18,027 --> 00:44:21,347
Speaker 14: Bang bang early in the first and then the Tigers

835
00:44:21,427 --> 00:44:24,787
Speaker 14: kind of just grinded away, and then just before halftime

836
00:44:24,827 --> 00:44:27,267
Speaker 14: they managed to call those three tries and then the

837
00:44:27,267 --> 00:44:30,507
Speaker 14: confidence was there. And then, man, you got to admit,

838
00:44:30,587 --> 00:44:32,987
Speaker 14: the Warriors had the rubble of the green with the referee.

839
00:44:33,027 --> 00:44:37,147
Speaker 14: They had countless literally countless amounts of opportunity inside that

840
00:44:37,227 --> 00:44:40,307
Speaker 14: attacking zoner that second half to attack that Tiger's line,

841
00:44:40,427 --> 00:44:42,907
Speaker 14: but the Tigers just defended so well. So you need

842
00:44:42,947 --> 00:44:45,027
Speaker 14: to really take your head off to the Tigers. And

843
00:44:45,107 --> 00:44:50,147
Speaker 14: saying that with the Warriors, I do wonder whether Tanner

844
00:44:50,187 --> 00:44:55,587
Speaker 14: Boyd possibly Monty Beathan used this word last night in

845
00:44:55,627 --> 00:44:57,827
Speaker 14: the commentary. He said Tanner boy needs to be a

846
00:44:57,867 --> 00:44:59,947
Speaker 14: little bit more alpha, and I think what he meant

847
00:45:00,107 --> 00:45:02,867
Speaker 14: was maybe take the reins a little bit more on attack.

848
00:45:03,307 --> 00:45:05,587
Speaker 14: I noticed when they started attacking the right hand side

849
00:45:05,587 --> 00:45:09,547
Speaker 14: of the field, they opportunities were came up a little

850
00:45:09,547 --> 00:45:12,987
Speaker 14: bit more an attack, especially right in that attacking zone.

851
00:45:13,067 --> 00:45:18,147
Speaker 14: But yeah, it's an interesting one. Hindsight's a beautiful thing, Pina.

852
00:45:18,267 --> 00:45:22,427
Speaker 14: I also think about Luke Metcalf and I think was

853
00:45:22,467 --> 00:45:24,547
Speaker 14: he rushed into the first grade side a little bit

854
00:45:24,547 --> 00:45:28,147
Speaker 14: too early, But again, hindsight's a beautiful thing, isn't it.

855
00:45:28,227 --> 00:45:30,707
Speaker 2: The crazy thing is that about? If that is the case,

856
00:45:30,987 --> 00:45:33,467
Speaker 2: there was no need to rush them back, and was

857
00:45:33,507 --> 00:45:36,427
Speaker 2: there because they were playing well anyway? You know, I've

858
00:45:36,467 --> 00:45:38,427
Speaker 2: heard it suggested, and it was even suggested to Andrew

859
00:45:38,427 --> 00:45:40,947
Speaker 2: Webster after the game last night that bringing somebody in

860
00:45:41,187 --> 00:45:44,067
Speaker 2: doesn't matter who they are, into a settled team can

861
00:45:44,187 --> 00:45:47,587
Speaker 2: sometimes cause a bit of disruption and a couple of

862
00:45:47,587 --> 00:45:50,987
Speaker 2: teething problems. Did you see any of that out there

863
00:45:51,267 --> 00:45:54,307
Speaker 2: or do you think that the Metcalf void six seven

864
00:45:54,387 --> 00:45:56,547
Speaker 2: combo is the way forward? Once they get a bit

865
00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:58,547
Speaker 2: of time in the saddle together.

866
00:45:58,787 --> 00:46:01,827
Speaker 14: It probably is the way forward. But I think there

867
00:46:01,987 --> 00:46:04,627
Speaker 14: is merit and having him start off in New South

868
00:46:04,667 --> 00:46:07,267
Speaker 14: Wales Cup level. As you say, things were going good

869
00:46:07,587 --> 00:46:11,547
Speaker 14: Sanel Harris Tavita was fit again. He had a very

870
00:46:11,587 --> 00:46:14,667
Speaker 14: good first opening game in the opening round of the NRL.

871
00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:17,507
Speaker 14: Obviously he got injured that second game, but he would

872
00:46:17,507 --> 00:46:19,107
Speaker 14: have been fine in the number six jersey.

873
00:46:20,387 --> 00:46:21,507
Speaker 15: Yes, I think they are.

874
00:46:21,507 --> 00:46:24,627
Speaker 14: The right here going forward Metcalf and Boyd. But I

875
00:46:24,667 --> 00:46:27,507
Speaker 14: think again, hindsight's a beautiful thing. We all wanted to

876
00:46:27,587 --> 00:46:29,827
Speaker 14: rush him back, did it. None of us were saying this,

877
00:46:30,027 --> 00:46:32,387
Speaker 14: you know three days ago where we were all very

878
00:46:32,387 --> 00:46:36,507
Speaker 14: excited about it. So look a good kick up the backside, Piney.

879
00:46:36,587 --> 00:46:38,187
Speaker 14: It's very good that the Warriors get this out of

880
00:46:38,187 --> 00:46:40,667
Speaker 14: the way now and hopefully they learn from this.

881
00:46:40,867 --> 00:46:42,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, you're so right, Ben, that's right.

882
00:46:42,907 --> 00:46:43,107
Speaker 16: I was.

883
00:46:43,387 --> 00:46:47,387
Speaker 2: I was amped to say. We all were Looke metcalf

884
00:46:47,427 --> 00:46:50,067
Speaker 2: back earlier than expected. This is crazy, this is fantastic.

885
00:46:50,187 --> 00:46:52,587
Speaker 2: But as his a hindsight's always twenty twenty. Just back

886
00:46:52,627 --> 00:46:54,907
Speaker 2: to that period at the end of the first half.

887
00:46:55,907 --> 00:46:59,027
Speaker 2: The Tigers bang, bang, bang, three tries in seven minutes.

888
00:46:59,067 --> 00:46:59,867
Speaker 17: What happened?

889
00:47:00,627 --> 00:47:03,747
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's just literally in the last fIF

890
00:47:03,827 --> 00:47:07,907
Speaker 14: thing and and two of them pssibly soft tries and

891
00:47:07,947 --> 00:47:11,147
Speaker 14: then it just caught the Warriors off guard and it's

892
00:47:11,187 --> 00:47:14,587
Speaker 14: just a massive punch in the nose and whatever Benjie

893
00:47:14,627 --> 00:47:17,987
Speaker 14: Marshall said to them at halftime, because they defended their.

894
00:47:17,867 --> 00:47:19,107
Speaker 6: Hearts out that second half.

895
00:47:19,147 --> 00:47:22,987
Speaker 14: You know, just the Warriors had nothing and you look,

896
00:47:23,267 --> 00:47:25,187
Speaker 14: at least this is happening in the early parts of

897
00:47:25,267 --> 00:47:27,507
Speaker 14: the season, Pinety, It's something that the Watris can go

898
00:47:27,587 --> 00:47:28,347
Speaker 14: back and ever look at.

899
00:47:28,347 --> 00:47:31,027
Speaker 4: But again, you've got to tip.

900
00:47:30,787 --> 00:47:32,907
Speaker 14: Your head off to the Tigers and again, as I say,

901
00:47:33,227 --> 00:47:36,067
Speaker 14: such an inexperienced and young side and to come to

902
00:47:36,107 --> 00:47:38,347
Speaker 14: go medium Ount Smart Stadium and did what they did.

903
00:47:38,587 --> 00:47:40,387
Speaker 14: Benji Marshall would be very.

904
00:47:40,227 --> 00:47:43,667
Speaker 2: Proud, indeed he would. So as you say, it's early,

905
00:47:43,747 --> 00:47:46,467
Speaker 2: isn't it. Sometimes they say a loss is a good thing.

906
00:47:46,507 --> 00:47:48,627
Speaker 2: You win or you learn, if you want to use

907
00:47:48,667 --> 00:47:53,587
Speaker 2: another cliche. Could this result refocus the Warriors ahead of

908
00:47:53,947 --> 00:47:55,867
Speaker 2: you know of what lies ahead in the next month

909
00:47:55,947 --> 00:47:57,427
Speaker 2: or so you'd.

910
00:47:57,227 --> 00:47:57,747
Speaker 15: Like to think.

911
00:47:57,787 --> 00:48:01,107
Speaker 14: So look, look, I'm not accusing the Warriors of taking

912
00:48:01,147 --> 00:48:04,187
Speaker 14: this game lightly, but I kind of felt there was

913
00:48:04,307 --> 00:48:07,387
Speaker 14: more of a a new listeners are more of an

914
00:48:07,387 --> 00:48:11,547
Speaker 14: awareness when they played Sydney, Canberra and Newcastle, and maybe

915
00:48:11,547 --> 00:48:13,787
Speaker 14: they win into this game a little bit more confident

916
00:48:13,867 --> 00:48:17,627
Speaker 14: than usual. But again a good kick up the backside

917
00:48:17,987 --> 00:48:22,347
Speaker 14: and you know, at least it's happened. Now learn from it,

918
00:48:22,467 --> 00:48:26,267
Speaker 14: learn from your mistakes. And yeah, Cornella, here we come

919
00:48:26,307 --> 00:48:28,427
Speaker 14: on east of Sunday. It will be a bit of

920
00:48:28,427 --> 00:48:31,747
Speaker 14: a tough ark over there. But the Warriors have proven

921
00:48:31,787 --> 00:48:33,027
Speaker 14: that they can one big games.

922
00:48:33,107 --> 00:48:35,787
Speaker 2: So here we are and here we are, so bottom

923
00:48:35,907 --> 00:48:39,467
Speaker 2: bottom line Warriors still, I can I mean It's one game, Bev.

924
00:48:39,707 --> 00:48:43,107
Speaker 2: There's still a contender, there's still a good team. We

925
00:48:43,107 --> 00:48:45,627
Speaker 2: don't have to put away the is this our year

926
00:48:46,187 --> 00:48:47,547
Speaker 2: signage just yet?

927
00:48:47,587 --> 00:48:47,947
Speaker 4: Do we?

928
00:48:48,627 --> 00:48:48,827
Speaker 9: No?

929
00:48:49,107 --> 00:48:53,027
Speaker 14: Just if anything we lived last night is no game

930
00:48:53,107 --> 00:48:56,427
Speaker 14: is a guarantee. Everyone was saying thirty plus. No game

931
00:48:56,467 --> 00:48:58,747
Speaker 14: is a guarantee. Treat every game like a Grand final.

932
00:49:00,107 --> 00:49:03,707
Speaker 14: Support your team, but take every team seriously.

933
00:49:03,707 --> 00:49:05,467
Speaker 2: Love it. Love to call last night, Bev. Thanks for

934
00:49:05,507 --> 00:49:06,347
Speaker 2: joining us this after night.

935
00:49:06,907 --> 00:49:08,187
Speaker 4: Thank you, Bonnie. Have a good weekend.

936
00:49:08,267 --> 00:49:09,747
Speaker 2: You have a good weekend too, Bev. I know you

937
00:49:09,867 --> 00:49:12,067
Speaker 2: will always good to chat to you. Voice of the

938
00:49:12,067 --> 00:49:15,067
Speaker 2: Warriors on Sky Bevan dua time to give voice to

939
00:49:15,107 --> 00:49:19,067
Speaker 2: your assessment of that last night. Warriors fans, Oh, eight

940
00:49:19,147 --> 00:49:22,707
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty lines open. Please don't panic.

941
00:49:23,107 --> 00:49:27,187
Speaker 2: There's no need to panic. This is the brutal reality

942
00:49:27,827 --> 00:49:32,427
Speaker 2: of elite sport on full display. Any team can beat

943
00:49:32,467 --> 00:49:35,067
Speaker 2: any team. Yeah, we hate it when it happens to

944
00:49:35,147 --> 00:49:37,427
Speaker 2: our team, of course we do, and we expect it,

945
00:49:37,467 --> 00:49:40,347
Speaker 2: and I think rightly so that the Warriors would just

946
00:49:40,467 --> 00:49:44,827
Speaker 2: carry on this excellent early season form and go four

947
00:49:44,867 --> 00:49:47,347
Speaker 2: from fall. Last night, the Tigers came to town with

948
00:49:47,387 --> 00:49:50,747
Speaker 2: a very different view on that, and good on them.

949
00:49:50,787 --> 00:49:53,387
Speaker 2: They were well worth their win. There's absolutely no question

950
00:49:53,467 --> 00:49:56,867
Speaker 2: about it. They were worth their win. Last night at

951
00:49:56,867 --> 00:49:59,947
Speaker 2: go media, I've seen a bit of chat around about

952
00:49:59,987 --> 00:50:02,587
Speaker 2: Luke metcalf But as as Bevin and I just talked

953
00:50:02,587 --> 00:50:05,747
Speaker 2: about there, I mean, hindsight always twenty twenty. Was there

954
00:50:05,787 --> 00:50:10,587
Speaker 2: anybody he who when they saw Luke Metcalfe named in

955
00:50:10,667 --> 00:50:17,307
Speaker 2: the side during the week, was not happy about that. Now,

956
00:50:17,347 --> 00:50:19,947
Speaker 2: we might say, look, it wasn't like he played badly,

957
00:50:20,987 --> 00:50:22,867
Speaker 2: but but people say, you know, he should they should

958
00:50:22,867 --> 00:50:25,067
Speaker 2: have waited, they should have waited, and and I've seen

959
00:50:25,147 --> 00:50:27,307
Speaker 2: text here Luke Hansen should have started there at sexton't

960
00:50:27,347 --> 00:50:29,827
Speaker 2: change of winning team, all that sort of stuff. But

961
00:50:31,827 --> 00:50:35,347
Speaker 2: we all, i think, were really pleased to see Luke

962
00:50:35,427 --> 00:50:40,587
Speaker 2: metcalf reintroduced a lot earlier, a lot earlier than we

963
00:50:40,667 --> 00:50:44,027
Speaker 2: expected he would. I think week seven, week eight was

964
00:50:44,067 --> 00:50:47,907
Speaker 2: what was what we were told that he was on

965
00:50:47,987 --> 00:50:51,267
Speaker 2: track for. Clearly they were you know, they were keeping

966
00:50:51,347 --> 00:50:54,987
Speaker 2: us guessing well ahead of schedule. And here we are

967
00:50:55,027 --> 00:50:58,187
Speaker 2: now and he's he's played his first game. Just a

968
00:50:58,227 --> 00:51:00,467
Speaker 2: bad night at the office, I think, But that doesn't

969
00:51:00,507 --> 00:51:03,507
Speaker 2: mean we can't drill down into it. We just need

970
00:51:03,547 --> 00:51:07,827
Speaker 2: to avoid the temptation of getting too carried away. At

971
00:51:07,867 --> 00:51:12,427
Speaker 2: the end of March, Andrew Webster, no doubt, and I've

972
00:51:12,467 --> 00:51:15,147
Speaker 2: heard a couple of his pre sorry his press conference

973
00:51:15,387 --> 00:51:18,027
Speaker 2: post match was pretty level about the whole thing. He

974
00:51:18,067 --> 00:51:21,947
Speaker 2: always is say often on the show. The secret is

975
00:51:21,987 --> 00:51:23,867
Speaker 2: not writing the highest too high or the lows too low.

976
00:51:23,907 --> 00:51:27,027
Speaker 2: Don't get too carried away when things are going brilliantly,

977
00:51:27,147 --> 00:51:30,107
Speaker 2: don't get too down on yourself when things are going badly.

978
00:51:30,227 --> 00:51:32,547
Speaker 2: That leave that to us as fans. As I say

979
00:51:32,667 --> 00:51:34,547
Speaker 2: when I say, please don't panic. Panic if you like.

980
00:51:34,667 --> 00:51:39,307
Speaker 2: That's what fandom is. You know, overreact if you want to.

981
00:51:39,867 --> 00:51:42,107
Speaker 2: This is what sport allows us to do. You can't

982
00:51:42,147 --> 00:51:45,347
Speaker 2: necessarily do that during your normal working week. Something doesn't

983
00:51:45,387 --> 00:51:47,627
Speaker 2: go bad, something doesn't go away. You hoped at work,

984
00:51:47,947 --> 00:51:49,827
Speaker 2: you know, you're often kind a duty bound not to

985
00:51:49,907 --> 00:51:52,547
Speaker 2: overreact to that. Sport allows us to be a little

986
00:51:52,587 --> 00:51:56,427
Speaker 2: bit you know, hyperberlic, if that's the right word. It

987
00:51:56,787 --> 00:51:59,707
Speaker 2: allows us to sort of, you know, wail and gnash

988
00:51:59,747 --> 00:52:02,307
Speaker 2: our teeth a little bit when things don't go our way.

989
00:52:03,147 --> 00:52:04,747
Speaker 2: You're worried further, you're panicking.

990
00:52:06,947 --> 00:52:08,787
Speaker 6: No excuse me, was fighty.

991
00:52:09,227 --> 00:52:10,187
Speaker 4: I'm bringing a book.

992
00:52:12,427 --> 00:52:17,627
Speaker 6: No, not panicking war. I actually sort of I thought

993
00:52:18,067 --> 00:52:20,347
Speaker 6: before I get into it, I thought, it's kind of

994
00:52:20,347 --> 00:52:22,747
Speaker 6: a familiar old pattern over the years, isn't it that

995
00:52:22,907 --> 00:52:25,227
Speaker 6: sort of is this the old for me? You're like

996
00:52:25,867 --> 00:52:28,067
Speaker 6: going good and then they get beaten by a team

997
00:52:28,107 --> 00:52:30,667
Speaker 6: that they should you know, should be kind of thing

998
00:52:30,707 --> 00:52:34,107
Speaker 6: that they were seen again and again. But no, I

999
00:52:34,147 --> 00:52:36,627
Speaker 6: watched the game last night, and they started off well

1000
00:52:36,667 --> 00:52:40,867
Speaker 6: and all was looking good, and then the Tigers they

1001
00:52:40,987 --> 00:52:42,987
Speaker 6: got a you know, I got a couple of tries

1002
00:52:43,027 --> 00:52:44,587
Speaker 6: and then they got those three in that But.

1003
00:52:46,027 --> 00:52:50,547
Speaker 3: I I think that I don't think.

1004
00:52:50,987 --> 00:52:54,307
Speaker 6: I don't think that Tanner Boyd ran enough with the ball.

1005
00:52:54,347 --> 00:52:56,707
Speaker 6: There was a couple of times where he took the

1006
00:52:56,787 --> 00:52:59,307
Speaker 6: kick option and he knows more than me when they

1007
00:52:59,307 --> 00:53:00,867
Speaker 6: were on are attack and that sort of thing, and

1008
00:53:00,907 --> 00:53:03,227
Speaker 6: I think, or maybe you should have ran with it

1009
00:53:03,227 --> 00:53:06,307
Speaker 6: because there's real strength, you know. I think, you know,

1010
00:53:06,547 --> 00:53:08,627
Speaker 6: these last few games, has been running with the ball

1011
00:53:08,667 --> 00:53:11,347
Speaker 6: and creating things. And I think even Andrew Webster said

1012
00:53:11,347 --> 00:53:13,587
Speaker 6: that he's encouraged him to do that more because that's

1013
00:53:13,627 --> 00:53:16,987
Speaker 6: when he has been really dangerous and making holes and

1014
00:53:17,027 --> 00:53:20,347
Speaker 6: creating gaps and tries and things like that. But I

1015
00:53:20,387 --> 00:53:22,427
Speaker 6: thought last night he kind of went in his shell

1016
00:53:22,507 --> 00:53:25,627
Speaker 6: a bit in terms of not running with that ball enough.

1017
00:53:26,267 --> 00:53:27,587
Speaker 4: I got no problem with him.

1018
00:53:27,427 --> 00:53:29,267
Speaker 6: And Metcalf being like they have, and I thought it

1019
00:53:29,307 --> 00:53:32,227
Speaker 6: was a good idea that he stayed where he did

1020
00:53:33,107 --> 00:53:37,027
Speaker 6: Tanner in that position and Metcalf outside him. And I

1021
00:53:37,027 --> 00:53:40,667
Speaker 6: think just and probably in the last fifteen minutes, I

1022
00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:43,187
Speaker 6: think the Warrior has just slackened off on that defense.

1023
00:53:43,467 --> 00:53:49,867
Speaker 6: But I thought Crookstaff had a good game. He was good.

1024
00:53:50,907 --> 00:53:54,107
Speaker 6: But yeah, I want to give credit to the Tigers

1025
00:53:54,147 --> 00:53:57,427
Speaker 6: because especially in the second half, they had defense that

1026
00:53:57,467 --> 00:53:59,707
Speaker 6: they did up. Their defense was great, you know, and

1027
00:53:59,707 --> 00:54:03,427
Speaker 6: they just shut the Warriors down. But also I can't

1028
00:54:03,467 --> 00:54:06,587
Speaker 6: remember the guy's name, but I remember his number for

1029
00:54:06,627 --> 00:54:09,947
Speaker 6: the Tigers, number seven, and he was the biggest, biggest

1030
00:54:10,027 --> 00:54:12,867
Speaker 6: fellow and I think he had blind here wort fella,

1031
00:54:13,107 --> 00:54:16,667
Speaker 6: and he created two or three tries I think for

1032
00:54:16,747 --> 00:54:18,547
Speaker 6: the Tigers with a couple of sizes they haves and

1033
00:54:18,667 --> 00:54:21,027
Speaker 6: break in the line and he might have got one himself.

1034
00:54:21,067 --> 00:54:23,867
Speaker 6: But he was fantastic player. And I just can't remember

1035
00:54:23,867 --> 00:54:24,267
Speaker 6: his name.

1036
00:54:24,427 --> 00:54:26,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, Adam doing here. I think is I'm not exactly

1037
00:54:26,627 --> 00:54:29,347
Speaker 2: sure the pronunciation fell, but yeah, they're they're half back.

1038
00:54:29,347 --> 00:54:31,707
Speaker 2: I I see He's been mentioned in a lot of

1039
00:54:31,707 --> 00:54:33,787
Speaker 2: the reports after the game as well. Did have a

1040
00:54:33,867 --> 00:54:35,547
Speaker 2: very good game. But I'm going to let you rest

1041
00:54:35,587 --> 00:54:37,387
Speaker 2: your voice. You sound like you could do some voice

1042
00:54:37,387 --> 00:54:41,787
Speaker 2: over work for a horror movie. Mate. That's that's maybe

1043
00:54:42,467 --> 00:54:44,107
Speaker 2: a little side hustle you can get to do. I

1044
00:54:44,107 --> 00:54:46,387
Speaker 2: hope you, hope you get your voice back. So he

1045
00:54:46,427 --> 00:54:49,147
Speaker 2: made always good to chat to you better the week.

1046
00:54:49,227 --> 00:54:52,667
Speaker 2: Jason Sister's text at halftime the tab when the Tigers

1047
00:54:52,667 --> 00:54:55,307
Speaker 2: were up. They were paying eight to one to win

1048
00:54:55,347 --> 00:54:58,787
Speaker 2: by thirteen plus easiest money of the year. Thanks indeed

1049
00:54:58,827 --> 00:55:01,627
Speaker 2: for that for that text, Jamie, Hello.

1050
00:55:02,547 --> 00:55:05,627
Speaker 18: Great Jason. Yeah, I just had this sort of fourth

1051
00:55:06,147 --> 00:55:07,187
Speaker 18: week that this will.

1052
00:55:07,027 --> 00:55:09,947
Speaker 19: Be you know that the Warriors that come up three

1053
00:55:10,027 --> 00:55:13,587
Speaker 19: really good ones, and then I thought this this this week,

1054
00:55:13,627 --> 00:55:15,907
Speaker 19: I thought this would probably be the hardest game just

1055
00:55:15,947 --> 00:55:18,907
Speaker 19: for some reason, and I thought it could be a

1056
00:55:18,907 --> 00:55:22,307
Speaker 19: potential banana skin game. And that's pretty much what's transpired.

1057
00:55:22,747 --> 00:55:26,667
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, isn't that. I I think I try

1058
00:55:26,827 --> 00:55:30,507
Speaker 2: sometimes those thoughts invade my mind. I think, Yeah, okay,

1059
00:55:30,507 --> 00:55:33,147
Speaker 2: but no, okay, don't panic, don't be silly, will be okay.

1060
00:55:34,307 --> 00:55:36,307
Speaker 2: But look at when I saw that school last night.

1061
00:55:36,347 --> 00:55:37,587
Speaker 2: Like I said, I was at the football and I

1062
00:55:37,627 --> 00:55:39,787
Speaker 2: was kind of keeping tabs and then I sort of

1063
00:55:39,907 --> 00:55:42,347
Speaker 2: caught the very the last bit of it. It wasn't

1064
00:55:42,347 --> 00:55:44,227
Speaker 2: I wasn't sort of you know, blowing over by it.

1065
00:55:44,227 --> 00:55:47,347
Speaker 2: It's like, what a massive shock. You know, Tiger's on

1066
00:55:47,467 --> 00:55:50,587
Speaker 2: a bad side. But I still thought they would win

1067
00:55:50,627 --> 00:55:52,307
Speaker 2: the game before the game.

1068
00:55:52,467 --> 00:55:54,707
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I just definek there.

1069
00:55:56,427 --> 00:55:59,347
Speaker 19: Just three. There's just probably something lacking, and both are

1070
00:55:59,347 --> 00:56:03,867
Speaker 19: taking defense that hadn't been seen previously. Wonder Yeah, with

1071
00:56:03,867 --> 00:56:08,187
Speaker 19: with Metca, I honestly felt maybe he could have done

1072
00:56:08,187 --> 00:56:10,027
Speaker 19: with a couple of games in New South Wales Cup

1073
00:56:10,147 --> 00:56:14,507
Speaker 19: and maybe just having him and boy together it might

1074
00:56:14,587 --> 00:56:16,307
Speaker 19: work over the time. But I mean I just sort

1075
00:56:16,307 --> 00:56:19,347
Speaker 19: of wonder the Tanner boy go into a shower, but

1076
00:56:19,427 --> 00:56:22,947
Speaker 19: because because they had Metcalfe and sort of like, yeah,

1077
00:56:23,147 --> 00:56:24,867
Speaker 19: you want one to be calling the shots and one

1078
00:56:24,947 --> 00:56:28,307
Speaker 19: to be the supporting So I take it anyway.

1079
00:56:28,427 --> 00:56:30,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's a very good point, Jamie, and I

1080
00:56:30,107 --> 00:56:33,867
Speaker 2: think we'd all love to see this combination flourish. Wouldn't

1081
00:56:33,867 --> 00:56:37,827
Speaker 2: we And I guess the temptation to get to get

1082
00:56:37,867 --> 00:56:40,787
Speaker 2: Metcalf back and if he was good to play, to

1083
00:56:40,827 --> 00:56:43,627
Speaker 2: start working on that combination as early as possible. You

1084
00:56:43,627 --> 00:56:46,587
Speaker 2: can understand the temptation to do that again. You know,

1085
00:56:46,627 --> 00:56:48,587
Speaker 2: we can look back and look, like I said, I

1086
00:56:48,587 --> 00:56:50,947
Speaker 2: don't think he had a bad game, look Metcalf, and

1087
00:56:51,027 --> 00:56:52,827
Speaker 2: at some point we're going to have to find out

1088
00:56:52,827 --> 00:56:55,787
Speaker 2: whether these two are the best you know, halves combination.

1089
00:56:55,867 --> 00:56:58,467
Speaker 2: And I get the feeling that they are, but yeah,

1090
00:56:58,467 --> 00:57:01,147
Speaker 2: maybe maybe if they if Andrew Webster had the decision

1091
00:57:01,147 --> 00:57:03,827
Speaker 2: to make again, he might say, you know what, Luke,

1092
00:57:03,867 --> 00:57:05,987
Speaker 2: have a couple of games and New South Wales Cup

1093
00:57:05,987 --> 00:57:07,867
Speaker 2: and then we'll welcome you back for the storm or

1094
00:57:08,107 --> 00:57:08,827
Speaker 2: whenever it might be.

1095
00:57:08,907 --> 00:57:12,347
Speaker 20: You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Tigers.

1096
00:57:12,947 --> 00:57:15,827
Speaker 18: They showed a bit of hearts, they really did. They

1097
00:57:16,307 --> 00:57:19,867
Speaker 18: written off and yeah they they probably walked away the

1098
00:57:19,907 --> 00:57:23,987
Speaker 18: one really just yeah, yeah, they these people I think

1099
00:57:24,027 --> 00:57:27,347
Speaker 18: there was when we can't forget too much about that.

1100
00:57:27,667 --> 00:57:30,627
Speaker 2: No, at least at least one key is happy, Benji Marshall,

1101
00:57:30,987 --> 00:57:33,867
Speaker 2: so we can at least take a little bit of

1102
00:57:33,907 --> 00:57:36,427
Speaker 2: solace in a Jamie, thanks for calling through and I'd

1103
00:57:36,427 --> 00:57:40,387
Speaker 2: always enjoy talking rugby league with you. Andrew Webster was

1104
00:57:40,427 --> 00:57:43,147
Speaker 2: asked after the game last night about bringing Luke Metcalfe

1105
00:57:43,147 --> 00:57:45,467
Speaker 2: back in to a side that had been winning. And

1106
00:57:46,467 --> 00:57:48,627
Speaker 2: you know, there's the old adage you don't change a

1107
00:57:48,907 --> 00:57:50,587
Speaker 2: winning side and all that sort of thing. But like

1108
00:57:50,627 --> 00:57:54,027
Speaker 2: I said, everybody was pretty much universal in their in

1109
00:57:54,107 --> 00:57:57,507
Speaker 2: their happiness to see Luke metcalf back. Was there any

1110
00:57:57,547 --> 00:58:01,267
Speaker 2: disruption in bringing him into a settled side? The question

1111
00:58:01,427 --> 00:58:03,987
Speaker 2: was asked of Andrew Webster postmatch last night.

1112
00:58:04,907 --> 00:58:05,587
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1113
00:58:05,787 --> 00:58:08,987
Speaker 21: My last week we were unsettled. We went in Newcastle

1114
00:58:09,187 --> 00:58:12,867
Speaker 21: with last year's New Sol's Cup spine in the second

1115
00:58:12,907 --> 00:58:16,067
Speaker 21: half and next man up. Everyone knew their job, you know.

1116
00:58:16,147 --> 00:58:18,867
Speaker 21: So like we had I think three four guys out

1117
00:58:18,947 --> 00:58:22,947
Speaker 21: last week going into the Newcastle and okay, well no chance,

1118
00:58:23,027 --> 00:58:30,467
Speaker 21: so good players come back in. We probably had one

1119
00:58:30,507 --> 00:58:33,667
Speaker 21: session together and it was a good session. I thought

1120
00:58:33,707 --> 00:58:38,307
Speaker 21: they clicked really well. But I don't put it down

1121
00:58:38,347 --> 00:58:41,827
Speaker 21: to that tonight. We will get better with cohesion as

1122
00:58:41,867 --> 00:58:45,267
Speaker 21: we get more fit bodies and everyone's training more, but

1123
00:58:47,067 --> 00:58:48,307
Speaker 21: I don't put it down to that.

1124
00:58:48,307 --> 00:58:51,107
Speaker 2: That's Andrew Webster after the game. You can see the temptation,

1125
00:58:51,267 --> 00:58:53,187
Speaker 2: can't you If you've got the opportunity to play Luke

1126
00:58:53,227 --> 00:58:56,547
Speaker 2: Metcalf and Tenor boy together, given Tanner Boyd's excellent start

1127
00:58:56,587 --> 00:59:00,067
Speaker 2: to the season and Luke Metcalf's undoubted quality, then you

1128
00:59:00,187 --> 00:59:03,267
Speaker 2: do it. You do it if you want to find

1129
00:59:03,267 --> 00:59:05,027
Speaker 2: out whether it's going to work, or if you want

1130
00:59:05,027 --> 00:59:09,307
Speaker 2: to start building cohesion, as Andrew Webster called it there,

1131
00:59:09,347 --> 00:59:11,027
Speaker 2: then you The only way can do that is by

1132
00:59:11,027 --> 00:59:13,907
Speaker 2: playing them. So if Luke Metcalff says he was ready

1133
00:59:13,907 --> 00:59:16,707
Speaker 2: and the medicos said he's ready, then there's no reason

1134
00:59:16,787 --> 00:59:20,747
Speaker 2: not to. There's the temptation to do it. I think

1135
00:59:20,787 --> 00:59:24,227
Speaker 2: Doll I can't see any reason why he won't run

1136
00:59:24,267 --> 00:59:27,987
Speaker 2: out the same halves combo next week injury permitting one

1137
00:59:28,067 --> 00:59:30,907
Speaker 2: twenty five got a full border cause. But your thoughts

1138
00:59:30,947 --> 00:59:32,627
Speaker 2: are welcome, Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eight. You've

1139
00:59:32,627 --> 00:59:34,307
Speaker 2: got to get a breakaway back with more of your

1140
00:59:34,347 --> 00:59:35,707
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1162
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Speaker 2: Interesting Hearing Benji get interviewed by Sean Prematch, says Graham.

1163
01:00:51,067 --> 01:00:52,227
Speaker 2: He said they were going to send him at of

1164
01:00:52,227 --> 01:00:56,387
Speaker 2: traffic down Luke Metcalfe's edge to test them. Seems like

1165
01:00:56,427 --> 01:00:57,547
Speaker 2: it worked, Thanks Graham.

1166
01:00:57,547 --> 01:01:03,147
Speaker 16: Hello Frank goodo, pony, somebody shooting my bloody swallows down?

1167
01:01:03,467 --> 01:01:03,867
Speaker 15: They are?

1168
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:07,387
Speaker 2: They have three swallows. I've not sure what last night was.

1169
01:01:07,427 --> 01:01:09,267
Speaker 2: Maybe it's duck shooting season.

1170
01:01:09,267 --> 01:01:12,427
Speaker 16: I know, well, I got a buddy bunch full of feathers.

1171
01:01:13,467 --> 01:01:13,627
Speaker 10: No.

1172
01:01:13,987 --> 01:01:19,267
Speaker 16: I couldn't understand why they didn't stay with the team

1173
01:01:19,347 --> 01:01:23,307
Speaker 16: that was winning. I mean, chypack here at fall back.

1174
01:01:23,987 --> 01:01:28,427
Speaker 16: I do like the Harris da Vitat at five eighths

1175
01:01:28,547 --> 01:01:31,227
Speaker 16: and a half back as Tanya Board. I like those

1176
01:01:31,267 --> 01:01:35,987
Speaker 16: boys and Harris Tavita. I think they played very well. Certainly,

1177
01:01:36,027 --> 01:01:39,707
Speaker 16: you can't leave out a guy like Metcalf, but don't

1178
01:01:39,747 --> 01:01:42,747
Speaker 16: bring him back at a big I can't understand why

1179
01:01:43,267 --> 01:01:47,507
Speaker 16: they didn't play the team that's been winning, give them

1180
01:01:47,587 --> 01:01:50,347
Speaker 16: the first half at least, and then bring the other

1181
01:01:50,427 --> 01:01:53,347
Speaker 16: guy's Metcalf back for maybe quarter of an hour, just

1182
01:01:53,387 --> 01:01:56,547
Speaker 16: get them settled in. But I just felt they brought

1183
01:01:56,587 --> 01:02:00,547
Speaker 16: him back too early and he missed a couple of tackles.

1184
01:02:00,587 --> 01:02:05,867
Speaker 16: His kicking was it was No, it just didn't look right.

1185
01:02:05,947 --> 01:02:09,307
Speaker 16: And as I say, once eat, what was wrong with Hanson?

1186
01:02:09,387 --> 01:02:12,027
Speaker 16: Hanson played a great game. Well, he didn't do anything

1187
01:02:12,067 --> 01:02:14,827
Speaker 16: wrong last week. Where was he last night? He wasn't

1188
01:02:14,867 --> 01:02:18,987
Speaker 16: anywhere near the near the bloody team. I mean, honestly, Pine,

1189
01:02:19,067 --> 01:02:22,147
Speaker 16: I just but I know, I still feel with this

1190
01:02:23,107 --> 01:02:27,147
Speaker 16: team that we've got, we've certainly got the makings of

1191
01:02:27,187 --> 01:02:29,947
Speaker 16: a great team. But by god, this is going to

1192
01:02:30,147 --> 01:02:32,667
Speaker 16: that guy was saying, it's a kicking the pants, and

1193
01:02:32,707 --> 01:02:36,587
Speaker 16: it's it'll probably do them good. They'll have to sort

1194
01:02:36,627 --> 01:02:39,867
Speaker 16: themselves out. I'm a little bit of a wishy better

1195
01:02:39,947 --> 01:02:43,467
Speaker 16: and I always have a little bit on the opposing team,

1196
01:02:43,587 --> 01:02:46,747
Speaker 16: Like the Warriors are back to the hilt. What I'm

1197
01:02:46,787 --> 01:02:49,267
Speaker 16: back to the hilt, like maybe forty or fifty dollars,

1198
01:02:49,267 --> 01:02:51,867
Speaker 16: But I'll have a little twenty lazy twenty on the

1199
01:02:51,907 --> 01:02:55,547
Speaker 16: other side. And last night I didn't because I just

1200
01:02:55,747 --> 01:03:00,547
Speaker 16: felt that, especially with our interchange with Sam Healey, Barnett's

1201
01:03:00,747 --> 01:03:06,027
Speaker 16: Val Mulgar, Statis Smith McCory, Harris Deviata, I just felt, no,

1202
01:03:06,347 --> 01:03:10,067
Speaker 16: We've got to win this one. But this is sport,

1203
01:03:10,147 --> 01:03:13,907
Speaker 16: and I know it's sport, and I get very enthusiastic,

1204
01:03:13,947 --> 01:03:16,227
Speaker 16: and I still am. I'm not I'm not giving it away.

1205
01:03:16,267 --> 01:03:18,747
Speaker 16: But by god, they've got a they've got to pull

1206
01:03:18,787 --> 01:03:21,587
Speaker 16: their shots up, and they've got the guys there. We

1207
01:03:21,627 --> 01:03:23,787
Speaker 16: can do it. We can do it. But it's going

1208
01:03:23,867 --> 01:03:26,347
Speaker 16: to be this is going to this. Next two games

1209
01:03:26,387 --> 01:03:28,627
Speaker 16: are going to prove the character of this team.

1210
01:03:28,827 --> 01:03:31,147
Speaker 2: Good on your Frank, great summary. I loved it, loved you,

1211
01:03:31,547 --> 01:03:33,747
Speaker 2: loved your passion as well. I think you're right. All

1212
01:03:33,787 --> 01:03:37,027
Speaker 2: signs pointed to a Warrior's win. There wasn't anything in

1213
01:03:37,027 --> 01:03:39,867
Speaker 2: the lead up to the game really apart from, you know,

1214
01:03:39,907 --> 01:03:42,747
Speaker 2: the pessimistic view that this could be a banana skin

1215
01:03:42,867 --> 01:03:44,587
Speaker 2: game and that sort of thing that pointed to anything

1216
01:03:44,587 --> 01:03:47,667
Speaker 2: other than a Warrior's win at home against a team

1217
01:03:47,707 --> 01:03:50,067
Speaker 2: that they were favored to beat off the back of

1218
01:03:50,147 --> 01:03:54,307
Speaker 2: three straight wins and excellent momentum and their best player

1219
01:03:54,347 --> 01:03:57,747
Speaker 2: before he got injured last year coming back into the team.

1220
01:03:57,787 --> 01:04:03,587
Speaker 2: All the ingredients were there too, you know, reasonably confidently

1221
01:04:03,627 --> 01:04:06,107
Speaker 2: predict that they would win another game. But this is

1222
01:04:06,147 --> 01:04:09,107
Speaker 2: the reason we love sport and we hate sport. The

1223
01:04:09,147 --> 01:04:12,627
Speaker 2: reason we you know, we talk sport because it is

1224
01:04:12,667 --> 01:04:16,947
Speaker 2: so unpredictable. Good on your Frank, I'll speak to you again.

1225
01:04:16,987 --> 01:04:18,347
Speaker 2: So no doubt Lili.

1226
01:04:18,067 --> 01:04:22,907
Speaker 9: Mate mate should have come back through.

1227
01:04:24,387 --> 01:04:26,947
Speaker 3: You know the reserve grade A player will always say

1228
01:04:26,987 --> 01:04:30,867
Speaker 3: they're really ignorant and not but I don't think it's

1229
01:04:30,907 --> 01:04:35,507
Speaker 3: the end of the world. But oh, I'll be perfectly frank.

1230
01:04:36,587 --> 01:04:39,787
Speaker 3: You know, the pundits over there have been flowing plenty

1231
01:04:39,867 --> 01:04:41,667
Speaker 3: of smoke up for the verbal with them.

1232
01:04:41,667 --> 01:04:42,347
Speaker 9: And don't worry.

1233
01:04:42,627 --> 01:04:44,907
Speaker 3: Our London's here in Australia have been too.

1234
01:04:45,427 --> 01:04:48,147
Speaker 9: They're raving about here. Great they are. There are only

1235
01:04:48,307 --> 01:04:51,587
Speaker 9: young men. I think they may have been reading a

1236
01:04:51,627 --> 01:04:52,467
Speaker 9: bit of their print.

1237
01:04:53,267 --> 01:04:55,187
Speaker 3: Leck of the Wrecker, well, he goes.

1238
01:04:54,987 --> 01:04:56,747
Speaker 9: A lot bit of off the bench, I think.

1239
01:04:59,027 --> 01:05:02,667
Speaker 3: But look, it's a reality check at at this stage

1240
01:05:02,707 --> 01:05:06,587
Speaker 3: of the season and the character of this team will

1241
01:05:06,587 --> 01:05:09,187
Speaker 3: be the foot lined by how they bounced back in

1242
01:05:09,227 --> 01:05:15,027
Speaker 3: the next week. Crenela won't be easing in Fornella. Well yeah,

1243
01:05:15,667 --> 01:05:18,507
Speaker 3: put it this way, it could still be your year.

1244
01:05:19,107 --> 01:05:21,787
Speaker 3: It just definitely wasn't there, Night Fast Night.

1245
01:05:22,307 --> 01:05:24,547
Speaker 2: That's right. You can lose battles within a war aisle,

1246
01:05:24,907 --> 01:05:27,347
Speaker 2: you know that, you know you can't. You know, very

1247
01:05:27,347 --> 01:05:29,947
Speaker 2: few teams canna win every single time they play. You're

1248
01:05:29,987 --> 01:05:32,587
Speaker 2: right if you it's only a waste of It's only

1249
01:05:32,587 --> 01:05:34,507
Speaker 2: a wasted game if they don't take something from it.

1250
01:05:34,987 --> 01:05:37,507
Speaker 2: And you know there were I just just looked up

1251
01:05:37,547 --> 01:05:39,627
Speaker 2: and just happened as I'm chatting to you on the screen.

1252
01:05:39,667 --> 01:05:41,827
Speaker 2: See that. You would have watched that pass when Metcalfe

1253
01:05:41,827 --> 01:05:43,347
Speaker 2: went to throw that pass and it slipped out of

1254
01:05:43,347 --> 01:05:44,667
Speaker 2: his hands like a bar of so open and went

1255
01:05:44,707 --> 01:05:47,787
Speaker 2: about five yards forward. You know, I mean it's just

1256
01:05:48,027 --> 01:05:50,827
Speaker 2: sometimes inexplicable things happen on a rugby league field or

1257
01:05:50,867 --> 01:05:51,907
Speaker 2: on any sporting paddock.

1258
01:05:53,107 --> 01:05:57,267
Speaker 9: That's right. Remember the humble in the jungle, Yes, Lee

1259
01:05:57,467 --> 01:05:59,347
Speaker 9: was supposed who you had no hope at all?

1260
01:06:00,987 --> 01:06:03,467
Speaker 2: Mate. There's all sorts of underdog stories in the history

1261
01:06:03,507 --> 01:06:05,187
Speaker 2: of sport and there will be many more to be written.

1262
01:06:05,227 --> 01:06:07,627
Speaker 2: Thanks for calling has always mate, look forward to chatting

1263
01:06:07,667 --> 01:06:09,867
Speaker 2: again soon. The Sharks next week. Yeah, they take on

1264
01:06:09,907 --> 01:06:14,707
Speaker 2: the Raiders tomorrow, so it's it's the Sharks away for

1265
01:06:14,787 --> 01:06:17,627
Speaker 2: the Warriors. The next two games are away actually, so

1266
01:06:17,707 --> 01:06:20,227
Speaker 2: the Sharks away. I'm just going to bring the draw

1267
01:06:20,267 --> 01:06:22,907
Speaker 2: up and find when that game is next Sunday. It's

1268
01:06:23,027 --> 01:06:25,187
Speaker 2: Easter Sunday four o'clock. That's a nice way to spend

1269
01:06:25,227 --> 01:06:28,787
Speaker 2: Easter Sunday afternoon watching the Warriors at Shark Park against

1270
01:06:28,787 --> 01:06:32,467
Speaker 2: the Sharks. And then it's the Storm away. And even

1271
01:06:32,507 --> 01:06:35,507
Speaker 2: before last night, I think we were all sort of

1272
01:06:36,067 --> 01:06:40,667
Speaker 2: surmising that that game away at the Melbourne Storm on

1273
01:06:40,747 --> 01:06:43,667
Speaker 2: Saturday April eleven was going to give us a really

1274
01:06:43,667 --> 01:06:45,827
Speaker 2: good gauge on where this team is. And it still well,

1275
01:06:46,267 --> 01:06:48,427
Speaker 2: it just now comes with a caveat that they've had

1276
01:06:48,427 --> 01:06:52,347
Speaker 2: this stumball. So what is their bounce backability next week

1277
01:06:52,387 --> 01:06:54,667
Speaker 2: against the Sharks, and then how do they go against

1278
01:06:54,947 --> 01:06:58,147
Speaker 2: the Storm, a team that has historically been very very

1279
01:06:58,147 --> 01:07:00,587
Speaker 2: difficult for the Warriors to get up over the top off?

1280
01:07:00,627 --> 01:07:02,067
Speaker 2: Thanks lol, Cameron, Hi.

1281
01:07:02,907 --> 01:07:03,867
Speaker 12: Goody planning, how you do?

1282
01:07:04,107 --> 01:07:04,627
Speaker 13: Very good mate.

1283
01:07:05,667 --> 01:07:07,947
Speaker 12: Look, I mean I just think, I mean people need

1284
01:07:07,947 --> 01:07:10,827
Speaker 12: to pump the brakes, you know, like combinations and sport

1285
01:07:10,987 --> 01:07:13,267
Speaker 12: at specially at that level, they would have thought some

1286
01:07:13,667 --> 01:07:17,227
Speaker 12: one of the most important things. And like Tanner boys

1287
01:07:17,267 --> 01:07:19,907
Speaker 12: obviously been playing with a lot of the time a

1288
01:07:20,027 --> 01:07:23,907
Speaker 12: less experienced half stand off, so he's been dominating the

1289
01:07:23,987 --> 01:07:27,067
Speaker 12: side and obviously Metcalfe kids come back into the team.

1290
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Speaker 12: I think it was right to play him. As you

1291
01:07:30,067 --> 01:07:31,627
Speaker 12: said earlier, I don't think there would have been a

1292
01:07:31,667 --> 01:07:33,987
Speaker 12: single Warrior fan who said, like, if he was ready

1293
01:07:34,027 --> 01:07:37,907
Speaker 12: to go, we shouldn't have played them. And I just

1294
01:07:38,027 --> 01:07:41,507
Speaker 12: think that ultimately they just need time to play together,

1295
01:07:41,627 --> 01:07:43,547
Speaker 12: you know, like I know, they can practice all they want,

1296
01:07:43,587 --> 01:07:46,947
Speaker 12: but there's nothing like, you know, managing those game time

1297
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Speaker 12: decisions between each other.

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Speaker 2: Totally agreet, Cameron, totally agree. You're right. You can run

1299
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Speaker 2: them and opposed practice sessions, or you can say, well, hey,

1300
01:07:55,427 --> 01:07:57,507
Speaker 2: when they do come together, they know they're good players,

1301
01:07:57,547 --> 01:07:59,627
Speaker 2: so they should be able to sort of instantly click.

1302
01:07:59,987 --> 01:08:03,107
Speaker 2: But you you absolutely bang on. There is no Warriors

1303
01:08:03,107 --> 01:08:07,267
Speaker 2: fan who didn't who didn't you know, I think positively

1304
01:08:07,307 --> 01:08:10,227
Speaker 2: about Luke Metcalf coming back and who was very very

1305
01:08:10,267 --> 01:08:12,387
Speaker 2: interested in seeing how the two of them would go together.

1306
01:08:14,867 --> 01:08:15,947
Speaker 11: I mean, look, and from.

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01:08:15,747 --> 01:08:18,667
Speaker 12: Another note, I think the depths of worries of creating

1308
01:08:18,747 --> 01:08:22,107
Speaker 12: this year in that team is probably the best it's

1309
01:08:22,147 --> 01:08:25,827
Speaker 12: probably been since I started. You know, they've actually got

1310
01:08:26,387 --> 01:08:28,707
Speaker 12: great So for everyone to say you don't change your

1311
01:08:28,747 --> 01:08:31,627
Speaker 12: winning team, I do believe. I do tend to agree,

1312
01:08:31,787 --> 01:08:35,707
Speaker 12: but you know, they've also they've also got multiple good

1313
01:08:35,747 --> 01:08:36,787
Speaker 12: players at each position.

1314
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Speaker 2: Now it's a coach's dream, Cameron, as they always say

1315
01:08:41,107 --> 01:08:43,387
Speaker 2: they want competition for places. I agree with you, mate,

1316
01:08:43,547 --> 01:08:45,467
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you on all the points that

1317
01:08:45,507 --> 01:08:48,747
Speaker 2: you've made, and I would fully expect that it'll be

1318
01:08:48,827 --> 01:08:51,267
Speaker 2: the same team that has run out next week with

1319
01:08:51,387 --> 01:08:53,907
Speaker 2: Metcalf and Boyd. In fact, if I'm Andrew Webster, I

1320
01:08:53,987 --> 01:08:56,267
Speaker 2: just go all in on that, right, I go all

1321
01:08:56,307 --> 01:08:58,907
Speaker 2: in on that combo. If that's shir combo. If you've

1322
01:08:58,907 --> 01:09:01,787
Speaker 2: made the decision that that's hit combo, then as often

1323
01:09:01,827 --> 01:09:04,747
Speaker 2: as you can, particularly at this point of the season,

1324
01:09:05,227 --> 01:09:08,787
Speaker 2: you play them together. I think francast about Luke Hanson.

1325
01:09:08,827 --> 01:09:10,667
Speaker 2: He played New South Wales Cup last night. As I

1326
01:09:10,747 --> 01:09:14,347
Speaker 2: understand it, Mark's confirmed that, so you know he's getting games.

1327
01:09:14,347 --> 01:09:16,187
Speaker 2: And look, Tannor Boyd played a lot of New South

1328
01:09:16,227 --> 01:09:18,307
Speaker 2: Wales couple last year, didn't he? And then Metcalf got

1329
01:09:18,307 --> 01:09:20,267
Speaker 2: injured and up he came. You know we're going to

1330
01:09:20,267 --> 01:09:21,987
Speaker 2: see Luke Canson again. I don't think we need to

1331
01:09:21,987 --> 01:09:25,747
Speaker 2: panic about that. But the longer these two play together,

1332
01:09:26,427 --> 01:09:29,027
Speaker 2: the more cohesive the partnership will become. And it's not

1333
01:09:29,147 --> 01:09:31,587
Speaker 2: rocket sizes, is it? I'm not telling you anything you

1334
01:09:31,627 --> 01:09:34,907
Speaker 2: don't already know. Finally, from Andrew Webster, what were his

1335
01:09:35,027 --> 01:09:36,707
Speaker 2: overall thoughts on the game last night.

1336
01:09:39,987 --> 01:09:42,707
Speaker 21: Lots of different things. Discipline in the first back end

1337
01:09:42,747 --> 01:09:44,827
Speaker 21: of the last twenty minutes, the first half at so

1338
01:09:45,027 --> 01:09:48,267
Speaker 21: roughly I send it in offside the wrong time.

1339
01:09:49,427 --> 01:09:50,027
Speaker 4: Yeah, just.

1340
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Speaker 21: Went from a team that we were trying to earn

1341
01:09:53,667 --> 01:09:56,427
Speaker 21: everything really well. I can get at the right things

1342
01:09:56,427 --> 01:09:57,827
Speaker 21: at the front of our mind and we come up

1343
01:09:57,867 --> 01:10:00,627
Speaker 21: with I think, like we consider to try.

1344
01:10:00,707 --> 01:10:03,627
Speaker 2: We kicked off four scenario and.

1345
01:10:03,547 --> 01:10:06,707
Speaker 21: We didn't get a dummy half, so those type of things.

1346
01:10:07,067 --> 01:10:11,587
Speaker 21: Concentration is one in the first half and then second half,

1347
01:10:11,787 --> 01:10:15,187
Speaker 21: like I thought, we're winning field position with our defense

1348
01:10:15,467 --> 01:10:19,747
Speaker 21: in like going after them and then someone would miss

1349
01:10:19,747 --> 01:10:22,507
Speaker 21: a simple mis tackle or a bad defensive decision and

1350
01:10:22,987 --> 01:10:28,387
Speaker 21: they'll scoring long runs tries and they executed really well.

1351
01:10:28,507 --> 01:10:30,707
Speaker 19: Tigers, We're really good.

1352
01:10:31,347 --> 01:10:34,667
Speaker 2: That's Andrew Webster post match with his overall thoughts. The

1353
01:10:34,707 --> 01:10:39,747
Speaker 2: Broncost beat the Dolphins last night and the late game Bulldogs, Knights, Panthers, Eels, Cowboys,

1354
01:10:39,827 --> 01:10:44,667
Speaker 2: Storm Today tomorrow, Raiders, Sharks, Titans, Dragons, as mentioned, next

1355
01:10:44,707 --> 01:10:47,987
Speaker 2: game for the Warriors is next Sunday Easter Sunday away

1356
01:10:48,027 --> 01:10:50,987
Speaker 2: to the Sharks, and then the following Saturday evening they

1357
01:10:51,027 --> 01:10:54,387
Speaker 2: are away against the Storm. The next home game for

1358
01:10:54,427 --> 01:10:57,627
Speaker 2: the Warriors is on the night of Saturday, April eighteen,

1359
01:10:58,147 --> 01:11:01,587
Speaker 2: when they welcome the Gold Coast Titans to go Media Stadium.

1360
01:11:02,307 --> 01:11:04,307
Speaker 2: Just in the last little while, there's been confirmation that

1361
01:11:04,467 --> 01:11:08,067
Speaker 2: Karen Forren has been named interim head coach at the

1362
01:11:08,107 --> 01:11:12,267
Speaker 2: Manly Sea Eagles, replacing Anthony Sebold, who was sacked last

1363
01:11:12,347 --> 01:11:15,787
Speaker 2: night three games into the into the new season. It's

1364
01:11:15,827 --> 01:11:20,987
Speaker 2: a pretty harsh, old old job, isn't it. Coaching a

1365
01:11:21,027 --> 01:11:24,547
Speaker 2: coaching an elite sports team. But if things don't go

1366
01:11:24,627 --> 01:11:26,667
Speaker 2: your way, then things aren't going your way. They went

1367
01:11:26,707 --> 01:11:29,387
Speaker 2: down to the Roosters on Thursday night thirty three points

1368
01:11:29,387 --> 01:11:31,907
Speaker 2: to sixteen. I look at the table and see the

1369
01:11:31,947 --> 01:11:35,507
Speaker 2: Sea Eagles played three lost three. They obviously ran out

1370
01:11:35,547 --> 01:11:38,147
Speaker 2: of patients. Karen Foran though as the new interim coach.

1371
01:11:38,347 --> 01:11:42,187
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock shortly he's our Australian correspondent and a Manly fan.

1372
01:11:42,347 --> 01:11:45,027
Speaker 2: So how has this landed with the Sea Eagles fan

1373
01:11:45,067 --> 01:11:48,467
Speaker 2: base and other Australian sporting matters too? Adam Peacock on

1374
01:11:48,507 --> 01:11:49,707
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport when we come.

1375
01:11:49,547 --> 01:11:53,827
Speaker 1: Back, don't stay on the sidelines. Call eight ten eighty

1376
01:11:54,107 --> 01:11:58,787
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and GJ. Gudnomes, New Zealand's

1377
01:11:58,787 --> 01:12:01,027
Speaker 1: most trusted home builder News Talks.

1378
01:12:00,747 --> 01:12:04,107
Speaker 2: That'd be seventeen to two. Karen Foruran's been appointed Manley's

1379
01:12:04,147 --> 01:12:07,707
Speaker 2: interim coach after the Sea Eagles sacked Anthony Seabold only

1380
01:12:07,747 --> 01:12:10,427
Speaker 2: three games into the new NRL season. The former Kiwis

1381
01:12:10,467 --> 01:12:12,787
Speaker 2: half played one hundred and ninety six games for the

1382
01:12:12,787 --> 01:12:15,987
Speaker 2: club across two stints, won the premiership in twenty eleven,

1383
01:12:16,267 --> 01:12:19,587
Speaker 2: and joined Anthony Seabold's coaching staff this year following his retirement.

1384
01:12:19,667 --> 01:12:22,387
Speaker 2: His first game an interim charge. Were you on Thursday

1385
01:12:22,467 --> 01:12:26,707
Speaker 2: night when the Sea Eagles take on the Dolphins, Adam Peacock,

1386
01:12:26,747 --> 01:12:30,307
Speaker 2: our regular Australian correspondent, as with us as a Manly fan,

1387
01:12:30,467 --> 01:12:34,187
Speaker 2: How has this news landed among your supporter base?

1388
01:12:34,307 --> 01:12:37,307
Speaker 20: Adam, Yeah, it's a bit early to tell, because it's

1389
01:12:37,347 --> 01:12:39,747
Speaker 20: all I've spent a whill when it only came through

1390
01:12:39,787 --> 01:12:42,267
Speaker 20: what six thirty last night that Sea Bold was gone,

1391
01:12:42,547 --> 01:12:44,867
Speaker 20: and then this morning we wake up and find out

1392
01:12:44,867 --> 01:12:47,107
Speaker 20: that Karen Florin has a job, so a bit of

1393
01:12:47,147 --> 01:12:50,947
Speaker 20: head scratching. It's like the guy the guy was playing

1394
01:12:50,947 --> 01:12:54,347
Speaker 20: for New Zealand last October, wasn't he He was? Of course,

1395
01:12:55,427 --> 01:12:58,507
Speaker 20: it's not exactly a long apprenticeship that he's done. Look,

1396
01:12:58,707 --> 01:13:00,707
Speaker 20: he fits the bill from Hamley coach in the sense

1397
01:13:00,747 --> 01:13:04,347
Speaker 20: that he's played for the club. So all coaches that

1398
01:13:04,387 --> 01:13:07,147
Speaker 20: have coached many to a premiership have played for the club.

1399
01:13:07,707 --> 01:13:11,107
Speaker 20: It's a weird, weird set up down there. But whether

1400
01:13:11,187 --> 01:13:14,027
Speaker 20: or not he's ready, well that's a that's a massive,

1401
01:13:14,027 --> 01:13:17,747
Speaker 20: massive question and a massive amount of pressure, I'd say,

1402
01:13:17,787 --> 01:13:19,827
Speaker 20: because Scott Penn has just done the owner of the

1403
01:13:19,867 --> 01:13:22,707
Speaker 20: club has just done a a media conference and he's

1404
01:13:23,067 --> 01:13:25,107
Speaker 20: essentially said, oh, look we were zero and three. We

1405
01:13:25,147 --> 01:13:26,707
Speaker 20: didn't want to be oh and six, so we've made

1406
01:13:26,747 --> 01:13:29,547
Speaker 20: this change. So now give and four and what happens

1407
01:13:29,587 --> 01:13:32,707
Speaker 20: if he loses first three games were oher and six?

1408
01:13:32,827 --> 01:13:36,107
Speaker 20: Is he under the pump? So yeah, they're back into

1409
01:13:36,187 --> 01:13:39,707
Speaker 20: the interim. They obviously didn't have a plan, which I

1410
01:13:39,827 --> 01:13:44,267
Speaker 20: find amazing about an identification of someone who would be

1411
01:13:44,387 --> 01:13:49,027
Speaker 20: desirable if sibol didn't work. Inside This first month just

1412
01:13:49,347 --> 01:13:53,627
Speaker 20: feels like haphazard planning to me and hopefully here and

1413
01:13:53,667 --> 01:13:56,067
Speaker 20: for it isn't roadkilled in all of it, because he's

1414
01:13:56,107 --> 01:13:58,787
Speaker 20: a quality coach in making. But the guy's only just retired,

1415
01:13:58,827 --> 01:13:59,867
Speaker 20: So what can you expect.

1416
01:14:00,347 --> 01:14:03,547
Speaker 2: That's such a good point. Yeah, and it's the suits

1417
01:14:03,587 --> 01:14:05,187
Speaker 2: for instant gratification, isn't it.

1418
01:14:05,187 --> 01:14:05,427
Speaker 4: That is?

1419
01:14:05,707 --> 01:14:07,787
Speaker 2: It's a demic across all sport really, But you're right,

1420
01:14:07,827 --> 01:14:10,507
Speaker 2: you just hope that surely he's given some leeway. And

1421
01:14:10,467 --> 01:14:12,147
Speaker 2: I mean you can't just say okay, like you say,

1422
01:14:12,187 --> 01:14:13,467
Speaker 2: we don't want to be oh and sex if we

1423
01:14:13,507 --> 01:14:15,307
Speaker 2: are zher and six by any chance next year, you've

1424
01:14:15,347 --> 01:14:16,707
Speaker 2: got three games on their sets.

1425
01:14:17,627 --> 01:14:19,507
Speaker 20: His ability is the coach shouldn't be judged on what

1426
01:14:19,547 --> 01:14:21,747
Speaker 20: he does in twenty twenty six. No, he will be,

1427
01:14:22,147 --> 01:14:25,147
Speaker 20: but it shouldn't be and it's ridiculous to assume that

1428
01:14:25,147 --> 01:14:29,907
Speaker 20: that's the case. However, the reality is that people will

1429
01:14:29,907 --> 01:14:32,987
Speaker 20: go down that park if we manly start to keep

1430
01:14:32,987 --> 01:14:36,467
Speaker 20: on getting pumped in games. But look, I just scratched

1431
01:14:36,507 --> 01:14:41,787
Speaker 20: my head about the process of thinking ahead in a

1432
01:14:41,827 --> 01:14:45,587
Speaker 20: sporting organization and making a massive call like they've made

1433
01:14:45,827 --> 01:14:50,347
Speaker 20: and then go okay, what now did they have this

1434
01:14:50,467 --> 01:14:52,867
Speaker 20: in their mind when Forun came to the club as

1435
01:14:52,867 --> 01:14:57,187
Speaker 20: an assistant when Seabold was given the extension but only

1436
01:14:57,227 --> 01:15:02,307
Speaker 20: given three games to prove himself. Yeah, it doesn't all

1437
01:15:02,387 --> 01:15:05,347
Speaker 20: marry up for me. But anyway, the reality is that

1438
01:15:05,427 --> 01:15:07,867
Speaker 20: care and Forum is going to take mainly to Redcliffe

1439
01:15:07,867 --> 01:15:09,867
Speaker 20: next Thursday and try and beat the Dolphins up there,

1440
01:15:09,867 --> 01:15:12,227
Speaker 20: which is no easy first game, but we'll see what

1441
01:15:12,267 --> 01:15:14,227
Speaker 20: the immediate turnaround effect is.

1442
01:15:14,667 --> 01:15:18,827
Speaker 2: Staying within RL coaches, Willie Peters has been appointed coach

1443
01:15:18,867 --> 01:15:23,347
Speaker 2: of the new pnng NRL side. Is this a good appointment?

1444
01:15:24,467 --> 01:15:29,867
Speaker 20: Yeah, I'm obviously mates with the GM of PNG in

1445
01:15:29,947 --> 01:15:32,907
Speaker 20: Michael Tammar's former journalist is now the general manager of

1446
01:15:33,067 --> 01:15:36,507
Speaker 20: operations there in terms of football, the football side of things,

1447
01:15:36,547 --> 01:15:38,587
Speaker 20: look CHAMMI and a few others would have come up

1448
01:15:38,587 --> 01:15:40,907
Speaker 20: with some kind of short list and I understand that

1449
01:15:40,987 --> 01:15:43,827
Speaker 20: Adrian Lamb was on that short list, Jason Demitri, Brad

1450
01:15:43,907 --> 01:15:47,507
Speaker 20: Arthur and also Willie Peters. But Peter's always felt like

1451
01:15:47,587 --> 01:15:49,347
Speaker 20: he had to step ahead given what he did over

1452
01:15:49,387 --> 01:15:51,387
Speaker 20: in the Super League last year and winning trophies for

1453
01:15:51,427 --> 01:15:55,027
Speaker 20: fun with a team outside the nexus of Saint Helens

1454
01:15:55,027 --> 01:15:58,747
Speaker 20: and Wigan in Hull, so yeah, he's obviously, and the

1455
01:15:58,747 --> 01:16:01,547
Speaker 20: timeline works out so Willy doesn't need to break his

1456
01:16:01,627 --> 01:16:03,427
Speaker 20: contract over there in the UK. You can see out

1457
01:16:03,427 --> 01:16:05,947
Speaker 20: the year and then come out and plan accordingly for

1458
01:16:06,747 --> 01:16:08,947
Speaker 20: fifteen months before P and G played their first game

1459
01:16:08,987 --> 01:16:12,587
Speaker 20: in twenty twenty eight. So yeah, everyone says he's already

1460
01:16:12,627 --> 01:16:15,867
Speaker 20: made coach, but again it's a hard one. You can't

1461
01:16:15,907 --> 01:16:18,867
Speaker 20: get it wrong early. P and G will be given

1462
01:16:18,907 --> 01:16:22,067
Speaker 20: time to bed things down. But big first task for

1463
01:16:22,067 --> 01:16:22,707
Speaker 20: Willie Peters.

1464
01:16:23,107 --> 01:16:25,867
Speaker 2: They's got a football our all Whites had a two

1465
01:16:25,947 --> 01:16:28,947
Speaker 2: yarl lost to Finland last night. Just after that, had

1466
01:16:28,987 --> 01:16:31,547
Speaker 2: the chance to catch some of Australia's game against Cameroon

1467
01:16:32,227 --> 01:16:34,547
Speaker 2: at a Core Stadium in Sydney, Australia winning at one,

1468
01:16:34,627 --> 01:16:37,227
Speaker 2: Neil Jordy Boss scoring the goal right near the end.

1469
01:16:37,827 --> 01:16:40,747
Speaker 2: What was this performance like three months out from the

1470
01:16:40,787 --> 01:16:41,947
Speaker 2: World Cup for Australia.

1471
01:16:42,747 --> 01:16:43,067
Speaker 12: Decent?

1472
01:16:43,187 --> 01:16:44,187
Speaker 9: Yeah, good with the ball.

1473
01:16:44,267 --> 01:16:46,827
Speaker 20: I didn't mind it. It wasn't like earth shattering stuff,

1474
01:16:46,867 --> 01:16:49,427
Speaker 20: but I think it was a step forward, not a

1475
01:16:49,467 --> 01:16:53,307
Speaker 20: step sideways or backwards, not a massive one, but yeah,

1476
01:16:53,867 --> 01:16:56,827
Speaker 20: it was good. Lockwood trying a few things. They dibuted

1477
01:16:56,827 --> 01:16:58,707
Speaker 20: an eighteen year old who just looked at home straight

1478
01:16:58,747 --> 01:17:02,747
Speaker 20: away and Lucas Harrington Cameron though under strength, they're obviously

1479
01:17:02,747 --> 01:17:04,587
Speaker 20: planning for something else because they missed out on the

1480
01:17:04,587 --> 01:17:06,907
Speaker 20: World Cup, so they're looking at their next generation. A

1481
01:17:07,147 --> 01:17:09,027
Speaker 20: lot of their players in the age bracket of twenty

1482
01:17:09,067 --> 01:17:11,987
Speaker 20: to twenty six, so not a heap of international experience

1483
01:17:12,027 --> 01:17:15,067
Speaker 20: about their squad, and we only that passed them. To

1484
01:17:15,107 --> 01:17:18,187
Speaker 20: be honest, I missed the first half. It was elsewhere,

1485
01:17:18,187 --> 01:17:20,067
Speaker 20: but I came home. But what's the second half? And

1486
01:17:20,107 --> 01:17:22,307
Speaker 20: everyone all the commentary is that that second half was

1487
01:17:22,387 --> 01:17:24,627
Speaker 20: much brighter than the first. So I'm kind of glad

1488
01:17:24,627 --> 01:17:27,987
Speaker 20: I missed the first half. But the good thing is

1489
01:17:28,027 --> 01:17:30,027
Speaker 20: it was a victory. It gives everyone confidence. They played

1490
01:17:30,067 --> 01:17:32,467
Speaker 20: Curis out who are going to the World Cup. So

1491
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Speaker 20: that'll be more a closer watch for mine on Tuesday

1492
01:17:35,907 --> 01:17:36,467
Speaker 20: in Melbourne.

1493
01:17:36,547 --> 01:17:40,107
Speaker 2: All right, And to finish, we've got a kickoff time

1494
01:17:40,147 --> 01:17:44,547
Speaker 2: for the NFL game coming to Australia in September. Yeah,

1495
01:17:44,907 --> 01:17:48,787
Speaker 2: ten thirty five am local time for this one.

1496
01:17:49,427 --> 01:17:54,147
Speaker 20: Yeah, no surprise because it has to fit American primetime

1497
01:17:54,147 --> 01:17:56,267
Speaker 20: TV audience on the East coast of America. That's where

1498
01:17:56,307 --> 01:17:58,227
Speaker 20: the eyeballs are, and this one is going back to

1499
01:17:58,387 --> 01:18:02,027
Speaker 20: national television, so massive amount of eyeballs on. I think

1500
01:18:02,027 --> 01:18:04,467
Speaker 20: it works. It's a four hour game. I mean you

1501
01:18:04,907 --> 01:18:06,907
Speaker 20: can sell end of things. You don't have to rush

1502
01:18:07,347 --> 01:18:13,347
Speaker 20: and look, it's not idea, it's not like a nighttime extravaganza.

1503
01:18:13,387 --> 01:18:16,147
Speaker 20: But I think because of the unique nature of it,

1504
01:18:16,227 --> 01:18:18,867
Speaker 20: everyone will accept it. They'll pack it out absolutely, and

1505
01:18:18,907 --> 01:18:21,707
Speaker 20: it actually because it's on a Friday, it lends itself

1506
01:18:21,747 --> 01:18:25,107
Speaker 20: to being a bloody good weekend away for a lot

1507
01:18:25,147 --> 01:18:26,747
Speaker 20: of people in NFL. I don't know what it's like

1508
01:18:26,747 --> 01:18:32,147
Speaker 20: in New Zealand, but NFL down here is huge, So yeah,

1509
01:18:31,387 --> 01:18:34,587
Speaker 20: they're going to pack it out and it'll be a

1510
01:18:34,627 --> 01:18:36,867
Speaker 20: great weekend and good for tourism in Victoria. So that's

1511
01:18:36,907 --> 01:18:38,427
Speaker 20: the aim of the game. I think for the Victorians

1512
01:18:38,427 --> 01:18:39,307
Speaker 20: to have it at the MCJ.

1513
01:18:39,547 --> 01:18:42,587
Speaker 2: Indeed, it's big here, so I'm certain there'll be a

1514
01:18:42,587 --> 01:18:44,907
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of NFL fans over here who

1515
01:18:44,947 --> 01:18:47,347
Speaker 2: now that the dates locked in, will be booking flights

1516
01:18:47,347 --> 01:18:49,667
Speaker 2: in the accommodation to get over there. Absolutely they will.

1517
01:18:49,747 --> 01:18:52,427
Speaker 20: Yeah, you look at some of the great sporting events

1518
01:18:52,427 --> 01:18:54,627
Speaker 20: and I'm not comparing this to a rumble in the

1519
01:18:54,707 --> 01:18:57,347
Speaker 20: Jungle or a thriller in Manila. But those fights back

1520
01:18:57,387 --> 01:19:00,347
Speaker 20: in the day and some fights still do. But kick

1521
01:19:00,627 --> 01:19:02,987
Speaker 20: they start at two o'clock, four o'clock in the morning

1522
01:19:03,067 --> 01:19:06,467
Speaker 20: just to suit American television, so you know it. You

1523
01:19:06,827 --> 01:19:10,027
Speaker 20: do what's best for the growth of the sport and

1524
01:19:10,067 --> 01:19:12,467
Speaker 20: what's going to appease the people who are chipping in

1525
01:19:12,467 --> 01:19:15,107
Speaker 20: the most money, and on this occasion it's American Broadcaster,

1526
01:19:15,267 --> 01:19:17,627
Speaker 20: so that's why they've been a piece.

1527
01:19:18,187 --> 01:19:20,627
Speaker 2: Indeed, Hey, great to Chenn as always, Adam, thanks for

1528
01:19:21,107 --> 01:19:22,987
Speaker 2: taking the time. All the best to you and your

1529
01:19:23,227 --> 01:19:26,107
Speaker 2: Sea Eagles fan base. I hope you're not zero and six.

1530
01:19:26,827 --> 01:19:29,267
Speaker 20: Yes, same, absolutely, that's funny.

1531
01:19:30,867 --> 01:19:33,747
Speaker 2: Adam Peacock, our regular Australian correspondent here with us on

1532
01:19:33,787 --> 01:19:36,387
Speaker 2: News Talks MB and Weekend Sport. Nine and a half

1533
01:19:36,387 --> 01:19:37,227
Speaker 2: away from two.

1534
01:19:38,307 --> 01:19:41,267
Speaker 1: The big names and the big calls on your home

1535
01:19:41,307 --> 01:19:45,587
Speaker 1: of sport Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, News Talks MB.

1536
01:19:46,027 --> 01:19:48,867
Speaker 2: Coming up six away from two. Chance to catch up

1537
01:19:48,867 --> 01:19:50,987
Speaker 2: on some Planket Shield cricket around the place. This is

1538
01:19:50,987 --> 01:19:53,987
Speaker 2: the final round of Planket Shield Final matches at the

1539
01:19:54,027 --> 01:19:57,187
Speaker 2: end of the summer. Otago are in Wellington taking on

1540
01:19:57,427 --> 01:20:00,947
Speaker 2: the Wellington Firebirds. They bold Wellington out for one fifty six,

1541
01:20:00,987 --> 01:20:03,947
Speaker 2: but then themselves Otago were bowled out for one hundred

1542
01:20:03,947 --> 01:20:06,947
Speaker 2: and twelve. The s morning one hundred and twelve Nathan

1543
01:20:07,027 --> 01:20:11,827
Speaker 2: Smith six for twenty five. Wellington and their second innings

1544
01:20:11,827 --> 01:20:14,707
Speaker 2: are fifty seven for one. That has them leading by

1545
01:20:14,787 --> 01:20:18,267
Speaker 2: one hundred and one runs with nine wickets remaining. This

1546
01:20:18,307 --> 01:20:22,387
Speaker 2: is the second day of these Plankets Shield matches. Let's

1547
01:20:22,427 --> 01:20:27,267
Speaker 2: go to Hamilton Seddon Park where it's nd against CD

1548
01:20:27,347 --> 01:20:30,067
Speaker 2: CD bowled out for two hundred and thirty five Northern

1549
01:20:30,107 --> 01:20:33,187
Speaker 2: District one forty five for six in reply, so they're

1550
01:20:33,267 --> 01:20:37,547
Speaker 2: ninety runs behind. And at Eden Park's outer Oval Auckland

1551
01:20:37,587 --> 01:20:41,907
Speaker 2: Aces bowled out for two hundred and eighty and in reply.

1552
01:20:42,027 --> 01:20:44,467
Speaker 2: Canterbury and their first inning's going along very nicely. They

1553
01:20:44,547 --> 01:20:47,387
Speaker 2: are one hundred and forty seven for one. Henry Nichols,

1554
01:20:47,427 --> 01:20:49,627
Speaker 2: who during the week was named the Domestic Player of

1555
01:20:49,667 --> 01:20:52,387
Speaker 2: the Year at the New Zealand Cricket Awards, are scoring

1556
01:20:52,427 --> 01:20:56,107
Speaker 2: more domestic runs. He's unbeaten on fifty four. Reees Marty,

1557
01:20:56,107 --> 01:20:57,987
Speaker 2: who who at some point surely is going to get

1558
01:20:57,987 --> 01:21:00,227
Speaker 2: a call up to the Black Caps, is seventy eight

1559
01:21:00,267 --> 01:21:04,067
Speaker 2: not out and Canterbury enjoying themselves in the sunshine in

1560
01:21:04,107 --> 01:21:08,307
Speaker 2: Auckland one forty seven for one as they chase Auckland's

1561
01:21:08,347 --> 01:21:12,027
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty in their first innings. Will keep

1562
01:21:12,067 --> 01:21:15,867
Speaker 2: eyes on those games for you across the afternoon after

1563
01:21:16,147 --> 01:21:18,947
Speaker 2: two o'clock. Quite keen to hear your thoughts on the football.

1564
01:21:18,987 --> 01:21:20,467
Speaker 2: For those of you who were there last night, the

1565
01:21:20,507 --> 01:21:23,747
Speaker 2: All Whites taking on Finland, seventeen thousand plus there thought

1566
01:21:23,747 --> 01:21:26,747
Speaker 2: there was quite a good crowd actually for a Friday night.

1567
01:21:27,147 --> 01:21:30,067
Speaker 2: They play again the All Whites on Monday night against Chile.

1568
01:21:30,507 --> 01:21:34,547
Speaker 2: I'm hearing that the two bays allocated to the Chilean

1569
01:21:34,667 --> 01:21:38,227
Speaker 2: support at Eden Park have completely sold out and they

1570
01:21:38,227 --> 01:21:41,067
Speaker 2: played the early game their last we yesterday afternoon. It

1571
01:21:41,147 --> 01:21:45,747
Speaker 2: was four o'clock and the Chilean fans were fantastic, chanting

1572
01:21:45,827 --> 01:21:48,667
Speaker 2: and singing and waving their flags and yelling and screaming

1573
01:21:48,707 --> 01:21:51,827
Speaker 2: and bringing a real South American flavor to Eden Park.

1574
01:21:51,947 --> 01:21:54,587
Speaker 2: So hopefully they will do the same on Monday night.

1575
01:21:54,587 --> 01:21:57,067
Speaker 2: There's no reason to suggest that they won't. But what

1576
01:21:57,107 --> 01:22:00,347
Speaker 2: do we make of the All Whites performance last night?

1577
01:22:00,467 --> 01:22:03,827
Speaker 2: A two zero loss to a team that is ranked

1578
01:22:03,907 --> 01:22:06,027
Speaker 2: higher than them, yes, but not a lot higher and

1579
01:22:06,627 --> 01:22:08,587
Speaker 2: going to the World Cup. Just thought it was a

1580
01:22:08,587 --> 01:22:12,627
Speaker 2: great opportunity for New Zealand to make a statement perhaps

1581
01:22:12,627 --> 01:22:14,627
Speaker 2: and to get some confidence and to show their home

1582
01:22:14,667 --> 01:22:16,987
Speaker 2: fans what they were about ahead of the World Cup.

1583
01:22:17,027 --> 01:22:18,907
Speaker 2: They weren't able to do so are too nil lost.

1584
01:22:18,947 --> 01:22:22,427
Speaker 2: There were parts of the performance that were noteworthy, a

1585
01:22:22,427 --> 01:22:25,107
Speaker 2: bit of a flat first half though, unfortunately. Ivan Visilla

1586
01:22:25,267 --> 01:22:27,227
Speaker 2: just played more games of football for New Zealand than

1587
01:22:27,227 --> 01:22:30,627
Speaker 2: most people. Is our joint leading appearance maker with Chris Wood. Actually,

1588
01:22:30,627 --> 01:22:34,027
Speaker 2: who's absent from this window, Ivan Visil. It's going to

1589
01:22:34,067 --> 01:22:36,907
Speaker 2: join us for a chat after two o'clock And speaking

1590
01:22:36,907 --> 01:22:40,147
Speaker 2: of football, Auckland FC have a weekend off, well game

1591
01:22:40,187 --> 01:22:43,267
Speaker 2: wise anyway, but I'm sure they're still working away in

1592
01:22:43,267 --> 01:22:44,987
Speaker 2: the background as they head towards the back end of

1593
01:22:45,027 --> 01:22:47,907
Speaker 2: the A League season. Coach Steve Corrigan is live in

1594
01:22:47,987 --> 01:22:51,387
Speaker 2: studio after two as well, the only.

1595
01:22:51,147 --> 01:22:54,747
Speaker 1: Place for the big names, for the big issues, the

1596
01:22:54,827 --> 01:23:00,027
Speaker 1: big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on Weekend

1597
01:23:00,107 --> 01:23:04,707
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vine on your homeless sport, news talks.

1598
01:23:04,427 --> 01:23:05,027
Speaker 4: And Big.

1599
01:23:06,707 --> 01:23:10,147
Speaker 2: Six Weekend Sport for another hour then Tim Beveridge takes over.

1600
01:23:10,347 --> 01:23:12,107
Speaker 2: I know this to be Troy. I can see him

1601
01:23:12,187 --> 01:23:16,347
Speaker 2: beavering away out there putting together more award winning radio

1602
01:23:16,427 --> 01:23:19,667
Speaker 2: content the Weekend Collective after three before we get there.

1603
01:23:20,067 --> 01:23:21,907
Speaker 2: But a football for you. This how Steve Coreck is

1604
01:23:21,947 --> 01:23:25,027
Speaker 2: going to pop in. Auckland FC head coach. No game

1605
01:23:25,067 --> 01:23:27,147
Speaker 2: for the team this weekend, or in fact for any

1606
01:23:27,147 --> 01:23:31,507
Speaker 2: of the A League men's teams international break, So what

1607
01:23:31,547 --> 01:23:34,187
Speaker 2: are the players and the coaching staff doing a weekend off?

1608
01:23:34,187 --> 01:23:37,427
Speaker 2: And how is Steve Corecker feeling after the last performance

1609
01:23:37,427 --> 01:23:40,667
Speaker 2: from his side, which was, in his own words, one

1610
01:23:40,707 --> 01:23:43,067
Speaker 2: of the worst he's seen. A two one lost to

1611
01:23:43,107 --> 01:23:47,467
Speaker 2: MacArthur a week ago? Are they still in good shape

1612
01:23:47,467 --> 01:23:49,267
Speaker 2: to make a run at the Premier's plate and into

1613
01:23:49,307 --> 01:23:50,067
Speaker 2: the final series?

1614
01:23:50,107 --> 01:23:50,267
Speaker 22: Look?

1615
01:23:50,307 --> 01:23:52,867
Speaker 2: I think they are. It's just one game, but the

1616
01:23:52,907 --> 01:23:57,507
Speaker 2: Warriors don't panic. But Steve Coricker tends to wear his

1617
01:23:57,547 --> 01:24:00,547
Speaker 2: heart on his sleeve. And yeah, he was fairly damning

1618
01:24:00,547 --> 01:24:02,307
Speaker 2: in his criticism of his team a week ago. So

1619
01:24:02,307 --> 01:24:05,147
Speaker 2: how's he feeling now? Steve Crocker and studio Ivan visilitch

1620
01:24:05,267 --> 01:24:09,667
Speaker 2: shortly on the Whites last night and Eden Park is

1621
01:24:09,707 --> 01:24:13,067
Speaker 2: one of the busiest places in the country at the moment.

1622
01:24:13,067 --> 01:24:17,267
Speaker 2: Football last night, Rugby tonight, a children's concert tomorrow, football

1623
01:24:17,307 --> 01:24:19,547
Speaker 2: again on Monday and a planket shield match on the

1624
01:24:19,547 --> 01:24:22,507
Speaker 2: outer oval. How do they manage this turf? Manager Black

1625
01:24:22,547 --> 01:24:24,787
Speaker 2: Christiansen with us this out too, oh eight one hundred

1626
01:24:24,827 --> 01:24:26,027
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eight He gets to throw on the

1627
01:24:26,027 --> 01:24:27,707
Speaker 2: phone if you'd like to make a call nine two

1628
01:24:27,787 --> 01:24:30,507
Speaker 2: nine two for your texts emails to Jason at Newstalk

1629
01:24:30,547 --> 01:24:33,107
Speaker 2: SEDB dot co dot nz a eight past two. As

1630
01:24:33,147 --> 01:24:36,547
Speaker 2: we always do at around this time on weekend sport,

1631
01:24:37,227 --> 01:24:39,947
Speaker 2: that music would suggest it's time to catch you up

1632
01:24:40,987 --> 01:24:43,267
Speaker 2: in case you missed it. Starting with the All Whites

1633
01:24:44,187 --> 01:24:46,947
Speaker 2: going down to neild to Finland in their football friendly

1634
01:24:46,987 --> 01:24:48,227
Speaker 2: at Eden Park last night.

1635
01:24:48,307 --> 01:24:52,667
Speaker 23: Eck of Gwenland pasconet inside the penalty area laid it up.

1636
01:24:52,867 --> 01:24:54,907
Speaker 1: It is name.

1637
01:24:54,787 --> 01:25:02,067
Speaker 23: Overland given the All Whites are sucker punts right on

1638
01:25:02,187 --> 01:25:05,707
Speaker 23: the cart against her in a play as New Zealand

1639
01:25:05,707 --> 01:25:06,947
Speaker 23: now little too.

1640
01:25:07,067 --> 01:25:10,427
Speaker 2: That was the final score. The Sokkaro's meantime left late

1641
01:25:11,027 --> 01:25:15,347
Speaker 2: to beat African nation Cameroon in Sydney connects that would

1642
01:25:15,387 --> 01:25:16,627
Speaker 2: fall in defeat.

1643
01:25:17,627 --> 01:25:24,107
Speaker 24: The Johnny Bus makes no mistake clinical finish in the

1644
01:25:24,187 --> 01:25:26,747
Speaker 24: right place at the right time, and he wasn't about

1645
01:25:26,747 --> 01:25:28,267
Speaker 24: to look up your class in the mouth.

1646
01:25:28,867 --> 01:25:32,947
Speaker 2: In Super Rugby Pacific Round seven open with the Highlanders

1647
01:25:32,987 --> 01:25:36,747
Speaker 2: beating Mowana PACIFICA thirty nine to nineteen at Albany, running

1648
01:25:36,747 --> 01:25:40,347
Speaker 2: in six tries, including a couple to Caleb tungato I

1649
01:25:40,507 --> 01:25:42,827
Speaker 2: do mi kavuki nikis conne do well the hold on

1650
01:25:42,867 --> 01:25:43,067
Speaker 2: to that?

1651
01:25:43,747 --> 01:25:44,707
Speaker 16: How did he hold it?

1652
01:25:44,787 --> 01:25:47,467
Speaker 2: Going blind side? Link Jira Tayte.

1653
01:25:47,667 --> 01:25:53,627
Speaker 17: Turkey Town number two women's left left He plants in

1654
01:25:53,747 --> 01:25:54,787
Speaker 17: the left hand corner.

1655
01:25:55,227 --> 01:25:57,987
Speaker 2: Meantime, the Waratahs have moved into the top six with

1656
01:25:58,187 --> 01:25:59,587
Speaker 2: victory over the Brumbies.

1657
01:25:59,707 --> 01:26:01,267
Speaker 4: Who's the full time salar?

1658
01:26:03,747 --> 01:26:04,027
Speaker 13: Okay?

1659
01:26:04,147 --> 01:26:05,267
Speaker 10: If you tap it, kick it.

1660
01:26:05,227 --> 01:26:12,347
Speaker 24: Out and left the game deprasaded Don hut back the Waretown.

1661
01:26:12,387 --> 01:26:15,747
Speaker 18: We takedown the Rumbies in camera the.

1662
01:26:15,947 --> 01:26:20,427
Speaker 13: Lawn House thirty the eighth st Robbies twenty.

1663
01:26:20,307 --> 01:26:24,107
Speaker 2: Eight, the Warriors on beaten start to the season and

1664
01:26:24,227 --> 01:26:25,627
Speaker 2: leagues in Orella's over.

1665
01:26:25,667 --> 01:26:29,707
Speaker 13: That'll be full time here at dot Media Outsmarts Stadium

1666
01:26:29,747 --> 01:26:34,387
Speaker 13: in Auckland, the West Tigers have ambushed the Warriors and

1667
01:26:34,587 --> 01:26:38,147
Speaker 13: what sixty two points to forty.

1668
01:26:38,307 --> 01:26:42,227
Speaker 2: And the Broncos have won the NRL's Battle of Brisbane,

1669
01:26:42,347 --> 01:26:45,107
Speaker 2: beating the Dolphins twenty six points to twelve.

1670
01:26:45,387 --> 01:26:48,827
Speaker 7: The Battle of Brisber is what by the cross count?

1671
01:26:49,147 --> 01:26:54,347
Speaker 18: And it's finished again, Buck Courts, this is his hown.

1672
01:26:54,867 --> 01:27:00,387
Speaker 1: This is the proper count contackles Harder Opinions Weekend Sport

1673
01:27:00,627 --> 01:27:04,507
Speaker 1: with Jason Pine and GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most

1674
01:27:04,547 --> 01:27:05,867
Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

1675
01:27:05,707 --> 01:27:09,267
Speaker 2: News Talks ten past two. As mentioned during in Casha

1676
01:27:09,307 --> 01:27:11,307
Speaker 2: Missed It, the All Whites have gone down two nil

1677
01:27:11,387 --> 01:27:14,547
Speaker 2: to Finland and their football international at Eden Park.

1678
01:27:14,907 --> 01:27:21,187
Speaker 23: It comes on, I'm the opening gun game, go spender's

1679
01:27:21,227 --> 01:27:28,027
Speaker 23: way and it's you Colan Pallo who's scored it and

1680
01:27:28,187 --> 01:27:31,707
Speaker 23: he was completely free to foot the Finnish side a hat.

1681
01:27:32,267 --> 01:27:36,107
Speaker 2: It's all right, still Land what The finn second goal

1682
01:27:36,227 --> 01:27:39,267
Speaker 2: came late in the game to win at two nil.

1683
01:27:39,507 --> 01:27:42,347
Speaker 2: New Zealand back up against Chile on Monday night at

1684
01:27:42,427 --> 01:27:47,227
Speaker 2: the same venue. Ivan Visilich played eighty eight A internationals

1685
01:27:47,307 --> 01:27:49,867
Speaker 2: for New Zealand, the joint most in our men's history

1686
01:27:50,227 --> 01:27:54,107
Speaker 2: alongside Chris Wood, including starting all three matches at the

1687
01:27:54,187 --> 01:27:57,427
Speaker 2: twenty ten FIFA World Cup. The last time New Zealand.

1688
01:27:57,467 --> 01:28:00,387
Speaker 2: We're at a senior men's World Cup. Ivan Visilitch watched

1689
01:28:00,427 --> 01:28:02,547
Speaker 2: on last night and joins us. Now, Ivan, thanks for

1690
01:28:02,627 --> 01:28:05,187
Speaker 2: taking the time. What was your overall assessments of the

1691
01:28:05,267 --> 01:28:08,507
Speaker 2: All Whites performance in the defeat by Finland last night?

1692
01:28:09,987 --> 01:28:13,827
Speaker 4: Thanks having me, funny, good to talk to you. Yeah. Look,

1693
01:28:13,867 --> 01:28:16,427
Speaker 4: I think it's exactly what type of game that they wanted,

1694
01:28:17,347 --> 01:28:19,747
Speaker 4: you know, playing against opposition that are ranked better than

1695
01:28:19,827 --> 01:28:23,667
Speaker 4: us and higher in the ranking. Chile is also high

1696
01:28:23,667 --> 01:28:25,707
Speaker 4: in the ranking, so you know, the tough game is

1697
01:28:25,747 --> 01:28:28,787
Speaker 4: what they wanted and that's what they got. We saw

1698
01:28:29,587 --> 01:28:33,827
Speaker 4: a difficult game for the players, not easy. Mistakes were

1699
01:28:33,827 --> 01:28:37,787
Speaker 4: punished and you know it just it was a good

1700
01:28:38,667 --> 01:28:40,787
Speaker 4: I think we run out. They had the team back

1701
01:28:40,867 --> 01:28:44,267
Speaker 4: together again against the top opposition. So again it's built

1702
01:28:44,307 --> 01:28:49,667
Speaker 4: into the World Cup. It's another experience of players needed

1703
01:28:49,987 --> 01:28:52,747
Speaker 4: and you know those are positive insitation from the game.

1704
01:28:53,027 --> 01:28:55,307
Speaker 2: Interesting assessment first up, because I guess people will wake

1705
01:28:55,387 --> 01:28:56,867
Speaker 2: up this morning who didn't see the game and say

1706
01:28:56,907 --> 01:28:59,107
Speaker 2: on he's in and lost to Nilda Finland and they

1707
01:28:59,147 --> 01:29:01,587
Speaker 2: look at the result only, but in terms of drilling

1708
01:29:01,627 --> 01:29:05,347
Speaker 2: deeper into the performance, and I guess the evolution of

1709
01:29:05,427 --> 01:29:08,467
Speaker 2: this team saw definite value out there last night.

1710
01:29:09,267 --> 01:29:11,707
Speaker 4: As I mentioned here, playing against high ranking opposition is

1711
01:29:11,827 --> 01:29:15,147
Speaker 4: always going to be difficult. Year the scoreliner, it's not

1712
01:29:15,227 --> 01:29:18,187
Speaker 4: attractive for us. But you know, watching the game and

1713
01:29:18,267 --> 01:29:21,227
Speaker 4: seeing performances from the players, you know there was some

1714
01:29:21,347 --> 01:29:23,947
Speaker 4: quality there. Look, I think the center backs did really well.

1715
01:29:24,067 --> 01:29:26,827
Speaker 4: I think Stumming it should again prove that here is

1716
01:29:26,827 --> 01:29:28,467
Speaker 4: a top player for us. So you know you've got

1717
01:29:28,547 --> 01:29:33,787
Speaker 4: players getting together with the group again, jelling again, you know,

1718
01:29:34,067 --> 01:29:35,947
Speaker 4: on the road to the World Cup and put it

1719
01:29:35,947 --> 01:29:37,067
Speaker 4: in some good performances.

1720
01:29:37,387 --> 01:29:39,307
Speaker 2: It seemed like they took a little wall toither of

1721
01:29:39,387 --> 01:29:42,547
Speaker 2: the game, and the players we spoke to afterwards admitted

1722
01:29:42,627 --> 01:29:45,027
Speaker 2: that that I were a bit disappointed with the first half.

1723
01:29:45,667 --> 01:29:47,987
Speaker 2: When that happens, when you're a bit flat to start

1724
01:29:48,027 --> 01:29:50,907
Speaker 2: a football game, what is usually the reason for that?

1725
01:29:52,787 --> 01:29:54,027
Speaker 4: It could be multiple reasons.

1726
01:29:55,547 --> 01:29:56,907
Speaker 6: What does that mean?

1727
01:29:57,067 --> 01:29:59,107
Speaker 4: They come together two or three days before the game,

1728
01:29:59,347 --> 01:30:02,507
Speaker 4: They haven't the team since the last windows, So there's

1729
01:30:02,547 --> 01:30:05,107
Speaker 4: a few factors that come to jailing and the boys

1730
01:30:05,227 --> 01:30:06,787
Speaker 4: or so, I mean, you know, walk out to eat

1731
01:30:06,827 --> 01:30:09,227
Speaker 4: a park. There's always has a little bit of nerve

1732
01:30:09,347 --> 01:30:11,467
Speaker 4: to it, you know, playing in front of your family

1733
01:30:11,547 --> 01:30:13,907
Speaker 4: and your friends and your country, and it's a bit

1734
01:30:13,907 --> 01:30:16,307
Speaker 4: of time to kick in. So you know that that

1735
01:30:16,627 --> 01:30:18,987
Speaker 4: happened in the game. You know there was there was

1736
01:30:18,987 --> 01:30:21,187
Speaker 4: a mistakes here and there, but it's just part of

1737
01:30:21,227 --> 01:30:23,947
Speaker 4: the game, part of growing. And again watching Ryan Thomas,

1738
01:30:24,147 --> 01:30:26,187
Speaker 4: you know, have some good touches on the board. Ben Old.

1739
01:30:26,507 --> 01:30:28,907
Speaker 4: You know he's been in and out of the game

1740
01:30:28,947 --> 01:30:30,947
Speaker 4: with a few injuries here and there. But to see

1741
01:30:31,027 --> 01:30:33,147
Speaker 4: that little sparkle here and there, it's just, you know,

1742
01:30:33,227 --> 01:30:35,827
Speaker 4: it gives that little bit of confidence for ice thing

1743
01:30:35,947 --> 01:30:39,027
Speaker 4: going forward. I mean, you know the average again, yeah,

1744
01:30:39,147 --> 01:30:41,147
Speaker 4: just going to look at the score. But yeah, the

1745
01:30:41,267 --> 01:30:43,907
Speaker 4: reality is we're playing against a country that is ranked

1746
01:30:43,987 --> 01:30:46,067
Speaker 4: higher than us. It's going to be a very difficult

1747
01:30:46,107 --> 01:30:48,187
Speaker 4: game for us. I mean, just because we plan't home

1748
01:30:48,267 --> 01:30:50,347
Speaker 4: sool doesn't mean that we have the right to win

1749
01:30:50,387 --> 01:30:52,867
Speaker 4: a game. The goods to the game, and you have

1750
01:30:52,987 --> 01:30:56,147
Speaker 4: to on those opportunities that you get, which are going

1751
01:30:56,187 --> 01:30:58,147
Speaker 4: to be less because you're planning against higher rank and

1752
01:30:58,187 --> 01:31:01,307
Speaker 4: tam you know, those factors are always going to be

1753
01:31:01,347 --> 01:31:01,747
Speaker 4: in the game.

1754
01:31:02,267 --> 01:31:05,227
Speaker 2: So as the team get together to regroup and happily

1755
01:31:05,307 --> 01:31:07,867
Speaker 2: they have another opportunity together on Monday night against Chile.

1756
01:31:08,427 --> 01:31:10,547
Speaker 2: What do you think the main conversation points will be

1757
01:31:10,707 --> 01:31:13,187
Speaker 2: as they now look ahead to another very good team

1758
01:31:13,867 --> 01:31:14,627
Speaker 2: on Monday night.

1759
01:31:15,307 --> 01:31:17,827
Speaker 4: A great game to plan, It has good a difference

1760
01:31:17,867 --> 01:31:21,427
Speaker 4: dollar football, so you know, great experience for the guys. Look,

1761
01:31:21,467 --> 01:31:24,427
Speaker 4: I think they have to just focus on the positives.

1762
01:31:24,587 --> 01:31:27,347
Speaker 4: You know, they are together as a team again playing

1763
01:31:27,347 --> 01:31:30,027
Speaker 4: another international in New Zealand, which is great, and just

1764
01:31:30,147 --> 01:31:32,467
Speaker 4: work on and understand that to try to relax and

1765
01:31:32,547 --> 01:31:34,387
Speaker 4: get into the game. A little bit Crocker thing image

1766
01:31:34,387 --> 01:31:37,507
Speaker 4: and it took in the world to general and that's true,

1767
01:31:37,547 --> 01:31:39,627
Speaker 4: and you know, hopefully they can do that. I mean,

1768
01:31:39,667 --> 01:31:41,787
Speaker 4: we're probably going to see I would say, some changes

1769
01:31:41,907 --> 01:31:44,307
Speaker 4: within the team just to give guys run seven ninety

1770
01:31:44,347 --> 01:31:49,227
Speaker 4: minutes on the grass and hopefully look for Randall, for

1771
01:31:49,307 --> 01:31:51,747
Speaker 4: example's life that we came on and did really well.

1772
01:31:51,827 --> 01:31:54,627
Speaker 4: He said an incredible so far we're talking to see

1773
01:31:54,747 --> 01:31:56,987
Speaker 4: and you know that spark that he brought to the

1774
01:31:57,067 --> 01:32:00,427
Speaker 4: game was really positive and you know, hopefully we can

1775
01:32:00,467 --> 01:32:01,347
Speaker 4: see more of that from.

1776
01:32:01,227 --> 01:32:01,667
Speaker 5: All the guys.

1777
01:32:02,387 --> 01:32:05,227
Speaker 2: And do you feel though that this current group is

1778
01:32:05,347 --> 01:32:09,267
Speaker 2: capable of making the necessary improvements and the evolution of

1779
01:32:09,547 --> 01:32:12,467
Speaker 2: themselves as a football team ahead of June. I mean,

1780
01:32:12,547 --> 01:32:14,667
Speaker 2: what are we now It's late March nearly April. Will

1781
01:32:14,667 --> 01:32:17,267
Speaker 2: there be enough time and they and the limited opportunities

1782
01:32:17,307 --> 01:32:20,187
Speaker 2: they have together between now and June to get to

1783
01:32:20,227 --> 01:32:20,867
Speaker 2: where they need to be.

1784
01:32:21,747 --> 01:32:26,227
Speaker 4: It has to be not many months away. But yeah, look,

1785
01:32:26,387 --> 01:32:28,867
Speaker 4: I mean if you look through the squad and you

1786
01:32:28,947 --> 01:32:30,347
Speaker 4: look at the players that are going to be coming

1787
01:32:30,387 --> 01:32:32,747
Speaker 4: in the egg boxes saying to catch it, and obviously

1788
01:32:32,867 --> 01:32:35,267
Speaker 4: Chris would to come into that sort of you know,

1789
01:32:35,387 --> 01:32:37,307
Speaker 4: there is a lot of quality in that in that group,

1790
01:32:37,427 --> 01:32:39,827
Speaker 4: and you know it's going to be exciting to watch

1791
01:32:41,427 --> 01:32:44,027
Speaker 4: to walk companies about the preparation and if we think

1792
01:32:44,067 --> 01:32:46,947
Speaker 4: in the future and we we're happy and we get

1793
01:32:47,107 --> 01:32:49,187
Speaker 4: a results in the first game, and when when we

1794
01:32:49,267 --> 01:32:51,067
Speaker 4: look back at these games and we so well, actually

1795
01:32:51,107 --> 01:32:55,427
Speaker 4: the preparation So you know, that's football and it all

1796
01:32:55,467 --> 01:32:57,707
Speaker 4: goes on results. But I think the quality is there.

1797
01:32:58,707 --> 01:33:01,347
Speaker 4: You know, the players that have proven individually that they

1798
01:33:01,427 --> 01:33:05,107
Speaker 4: have that quality to give us some huge notes of

1799
01:33:05,267 --> 01:33:06,227
Speaker 4: joy and come to.

1800
01:33:06,907 --> 01:33:09,027
Speaker 2: And daed and you know these players are going to

1801
01:33:09,067 --> 01:33:11,387
Speaker 2: walk apart that you did. Of course with the all

1802
01:33:11,427 --> 01:33:14,307
Speaker 2: white side of twenty teen. You did a lot in

1803
01:33:14,387 --> 01:33:16,307
Speaker 2: the game of football live and where does Where does

1804
01:33:16,347 --> 01:33:19,307
Speaker 2: the World Cups? Among everything else that you achieved in

1805
01:33:19,387 --> 01:33:19,867
Speaker 2: the game.

1806
01:33:20,027 --> 01:33:22,427
Speaker 4: It's the greatest memory that I have. I mean a

1807
01:33:22,507 --> 01:33:25,787
Speaker 4: pleasure for me to play there, so proud for and

1808
01:33:25,867 --> 01:33:28,027
Speaker 4: for myself to be there. Obviously a lot of hard

1809
01:33:28,067 --> 01:33:29,587
Speaker 4: work to get there, just like these guys are go

1810
01:33:29,747 --> 01:33:31,307
Speaker 4: through now, a lot of hard work to get there

1811
01:33:31,427 --> 01:33:34,147
Speaker 4: and enjoyed the moment once they're there. But on the

1812
01:33:34,227 --> 01:33:36,267
Speaker 4: other side of it is also you know, part of

1813
01:33:36,387 --> 01:33:39,867
Speaker 4: their jobs to perform and do well, and they're going

1814
01:33:39,907 --> 01:33:42,987
Speaker 4: to do that. I have no doubt that they know.

1815
01:33:43,067 --> 01:33:46,667
Speaker 4: They have their younger sort of looking side of experience

1816
01:33:46,707 --> 01:33:48,747
Speaker 4: within themselves. You know, there's a lot of games under

1817
01:33:48,747 --> 01:33:51,787
Speaker 4: their belts. So really I think it's positive going forward.

1818
01:33:53,027 --> 01:33:55,147
Speaker 4: You know, we would all love to have results every

1819
01:33:55,787 --> 01:33:58,827
Speaker 4: every window going our way. But you know, the important

1820
01:33:58,867 --> 01:34:01,987
Speaker 4: part of it is that engine ins top opposition gets

1821
01:34:02,027 --> 01:34:02,667
Speaker 4: the experience.

1822
01:34:03,227 --> 01:34:06,747
Speaker 2: Do you ever relive that shot against Paraguay wake up

1823
01:34:06,787 --> 01:34:08,187
Speaker 2: in the middle of night. I think it's actually gone

1824
01:34:08,227 --> 01:34:09,507
Speaker 2: in rather than just white.

1825
01:34:09,907 --> 01:34:11,227
Speaker 3: Actually, so.

1826
01:34:13,347 --> 01:34:17,907
Speaker 4: I remember that. Yeah, of course, a little sparking moment

1827
01:34:18,427 --> 01:34:20,627
Speaker 4: in the game for me to get on a scoresheet,

1828
01:34:20,667 --> 01:34:24,867
Speaker 4: but ously didn't happen for some incredible moments, great memories,

1829
01:34:25,227 --> 01:34:26,907
Speaker 4: you know, part of my career that I look back

1830
01:34:26,947 --> 01:34:29,267
Speaker 4: on fondly. And the game is today was great because

1831
01:34:29,267 --> 01:34:30,747
Speaker 4: we're able to catch up with some of the former

1832
01:34:30,827 --> 01:34:34,347
Speaker 4: plans and teammates from to ten. And also excellent that

1833
01:34:34,427 --> 01:34:36,987
Speaker 4: we're there in the ground and turns and came together

1834
01:34:37,067 --> 01:34:38,267
Speaker 4: again a bit more.

1835
01:34:38,147 --> 01:34:40,347
Speaker 9: So that that was really positive, good stuff.

1836
01:34:40,507 --> 01:34:43,107
Speaker 2: Thanks Ivan, appreciate you joining us mate, giving us your expertise.

1837
01:34:43,147 --> 01:34:45,987
Speaker 2: Ivan Visilich there one of our greats, one of the

1838
01:34:46,107 --> 01:34:48,387
Speaker 2: greatest players to wear a white shirt. And the next

1839
01:34:48,467 --> 01:34:53,587
Speaker 2: generation of the Visilich family is becoming evident now. Luca Vissilitch,

1840
01:34:53,707 --> 01:34:56,827
Speaker 2: the teenage son of Ivan, has in the last couple

1841
01:34:56,867 --> 01:34:59,547
Speaker 2: of weeks made his a leg debut for Auckland FC

1842
01:35:00,347 --> 01:35:02,987
Speaker 2: off the bench against Newcastle and then also off the

1843
01:35:03,027 --> 01:35:05,947
Speaker 2: bench against MacArthur for the entire second half last weekend.

1844
01:35:06,507 --> 01:35:09,667
Speaker 2: So following in his father's footsteps, Luca Visselitz just taken

1845
01:35:09,707 --> 01:35:13,427
Speaker 2: the first steps on his journey. Interesting game last night,

1846
01:35:14,747 --> 01:35:18,107
Speaker 2: the all Whites themselves admitted, as I said to Ivan

1847
01:35:18,107 --> 01:35:20,067
Speaker 2: and o'ld play bit of audio to this effect. In

1848
01:35:20,147 --> 01:35:22,187
Speaker 2: a moment that they were flat to start. That they

1849
01:35:22,267 --> 01:35:27,227
Speaker 2: didn't come out with the energy, the vigor, the enthusiasm

1850
01:35:27,387 --> 01:35:30,827
Speaker 2: that they are normally renowned for. They pride themselves on

1851
01:35:30,947 --> 01:35:33,427
Speaker 2: that at a base level. You bring that into the

1852
01:35:33,507 --> 01:35:36,827
Speaker 2: national side and it didn't happen last night for whatever reason,

1853
01:35:36,907 --> 01:35:38,987
Speaker 2: and they were all a bit of a loss to

1854
01:35:39,147 --> 01:35:42,787
Speaker 2: understand why. Even coach Darren Baisley afterwards said, look, we

1855
01:35:42,827 --> 01:35:46,187
Speaker 2: had a great week of training, we warmed up really well.

1856
01:35:46,307 --> 01:35:48,147
Speaker 2: There was a fizz about us as we walked out

1857
01:35:48,147 --> 01:35:50,747
Speaker 2: onto Eden Park, but the first forty five minutes it

1858
01:35:50,947 --> 01:35:53,307
Speaker 2: just wasn't there for them. They did get a spark

1859
01:35:53,387 --> 01:35:55,267
Speaker 2: in the second half, and one of the reasons for

1860
01:35:55,347 --> 01:35:58,347
Speaker 2: that spark, I have to say was Jesse Randall. Here's

1861
01:35:58,387 --> 01:36:02,147
Speaker 2: a guy who a year ago was really only just

1862
01:36:02,307 --> 01:36:04,787
Speaker 2: on the fringes of this all white side. If you

1863
01:36:04,827 --> 01:36:07,027
Speaker 2: were picking a World Cup team a year ago, Jesse

1864
01:36:07,147 --> 01:36:10,627
Speaker 2: Randam would not have been in it. Now he needs

1865
01:36:10,667 --> 01:36:12,307
Speaker 2: to make sure he's got no other plans in June

1866
01:36:12,347 --> 01:36:14,907
Speaker 2: and July. He's on that plane. He is in the

1867
01:36:14,947 --> 01:36:17,227
Speaker 2: World Cup squad. He came on last night and off

1868
01:36:17,267 --> 01:36:19,867
Speaker 2: the back of an excellent season up till now for

1869
01:36:19,947 --> 01:36:24,027
Speaker 2: Auckland FC. He injected the vigor which has marked his

1870
01:36:24,147 --> 01:36:27,667
Speaker 2: A League season, came close to equalizing from a narrow angle.

1871
01:36:28,787 --> 01:36:31,347
Speaker 2: A lot of clever footwork in the box, a lot

1872
01:36:31,427 --> 01:36:35,187
Speaker 2: of trickery, he added the spark, and I would not

1873
01:36:35,307 --> 01:36:37,187
Speaker 2: be at all surprised if he starts the match on

1874
01:36:37,267 --> 01:36:40,147
Speaker 2: Monday night against Chile. The other guy who impressed me

1875
01:36:40,307 --> 01:36:44,347
Speaker 2: was Marco Stamminich, who wore the captain's armband last night

1876
01:36:44,867 --> 01:36:48,747
Speaker 2: in the absence of Chris Wood and just looks every

1877
01:36:48,867 --> 01:36:52,987
Speaker 2: Inchure player who could have another decade or more in

1878
01:36:53,107 --> 01:36:56,107
Speaker 2: our national site. He is just so elegant, but also

1879
01:36:56,267 --> 01:37:01,587
Speaker 2: so combative, intelligent and accurate with his passing over short

1880
01:37:01,627 --> 01:37:06,147
Speaker 2: and long distances. He's tireless without the ball led by example.

1881
01:37:06,347 --> 01:37:10,267
Speaker 2: I just thought he was exceptional last night. So what

1882
01:37:10,347 --> 01:37:11,947
Speaker 2: did they make of it? The players? Well, he's been

1883
01:37:11,987 --> 01:37:14,907
Speaker 2: old afterwards when he was asked for his assessment about

1884
01:37:14,907 --> 01:37:16,307
Speaker 2: why things hadn't gone their way.

1885
01:37:16,907 --> 01:37:18,707
Speaker 10: Yeah, I just don't think the quality was there from

1886
01:37:18,707 --> 01:37:21,827
Speaker 10: any of us tonight. I think the quality that we

1887
01:37:21,907 --> 01:37:23,587
Speaker 10: have we expect a lot more from each other, and

1888
01:37:24,027 --> 01:37:25,667
Speaker 10: we had the moments to be able to create a

1889
01:37:25,707 --> 01:37:26,947
Speaker 10: lot more, but they just didn't come off.

1890
01:37:27,347 --> 01:37:29,307
Speaker 2: You changed to the other side and the second half

1891
01:37:30,227 --> 01:37:31,867
Speaker 2: and you've got a lot more involved. Was that a

1892
01:37:32,307 --> 01:37:35,107
Speaker 2: decision that you had a pardon in deciding or were

1893
01:37:35,107 --> 01:37:35,627
Speaker 2: you told they.

1894
01:37:35,747 --> 01:37:37,907
Speaker 10: Get over on the right YEA, honestly no, Bays just

1895
01:37:38,027 --> 01:37:39,707
Speaker 10: put me on that side for a tactic and it

1896
01:37:40,147 --> 01:37:42,707
Speaker 10: feels natural. When I'm dribbling a bit further forward, I

1897
01:37:42,827 --> 01:37:44,867
Speaker 10: am able to cuss in on my left side. It

1898
01:37:44,987 --> 01:37:47,227
Speaker 10: just feels a lot more comfortable. So it felt nice

1899
01:37:47,267 --> 01:37:48,787
Speaker 10: in that half and I was able to get on

1900
01:37:48,787 --> 01:37:49,427
Speaker 10: the ball a lot more.

1901
01:37:49,627 --> 01:37:51,427
Speaker 2: A couple of chances, good chances out there.

1902
01:37:51,547 --> 01:37:52,787
Speaker 4: I'm go today.

1903
01:37:52,867 --> 01:37:55,067
Speaker 2: You couldn't not just sure eb whishly, but the team

1904
01:37:55,067 --> 01:37:56,347
Speaker 2: couldn't find the back of their next time.

1905
01:37:56,507 --> 01:37:59,147
Speaker 10: Yeah, personally, I'm disappointed. I did have some really good,

1906
01:37:59,347 --> 01:38:02,427
Speaker 10: good moments, whether it's me shoesing or creeding. I just

1907
01:38:02,467 --> 01:38:04,867
Speaker 10: don't think I quite had that final product. I think

1908
01:38:04,907 --> 01:38:06,507
Speaker 10: that's just something I might just need to be working on.

1909
01:38:06,987 --> 01:38:09,187
Speaker 10: But it's also difficult going from defensive where I don't

1910
01:38:09,187 --> 01:38:12,947
Speaker 10: have those moments, So just working on those, and ultimately

1911
01:38:12,987 --> 01:38:14,427
Speaker 10: I don't think any of us were good enough to

1912
01:38:14,467 --> 01:38:15,787
Speaker 10: be able to get that one tonight.

1913
01:38:15,747 --> 01:38:18,827
Speaker 2: Fair his honest self assessment there and team assessment from

1914
01:38:18,947 --> 01:38:21,387
Speaker 2: being old as I say, they did get extra energy.

1915
01:38:21,427 --> 01:38:22,867
Speaker 2: The second half was a heck of a lot better.

1916
01:38:23,267 --> 01:38:25,867
Speaker 2: It really was another player who came on and I

1917
01:38:25,907 --> 01:38:28,587
Speaker 2: think gave a really good of economis account of himself

1918
01:38:28,707 --> 01:38:32,987
Speaker 2: was James mcgowry. Francis Devrees went off with a calf

1919
01:38:33,067 --> 01:38:35,427
Speaker 2: injury late in the first half. James mcgowry came in

1920
01:38:35,547 --> 01:38:37,347
Speaker 2: and I think had a really good second half, got

1921
01:38:37,387 --> 01:38:40,267
Speaker 2: up and down, did his defensive work, had an opportunity

1922
01:38:40,307 --> 01:38:42,587
Speaker 2: to score from long range and Paul at Whyber though

1923
01:38:42,627 --> 01:38:44,507
Speaker 2: he added a lot in Lachland bayliss good to see

1924
01:38:44,547 --> 01:38:47,627
Speaker 2: him make an All Whites' debut. The Newcastle Jets attacker

1925
01:38:47,907 --> 01:38:50,347
Speaker 2: curled a shot wide late on. He did lose this

1926
01:38:50,427 --> 01:38:53,627
Speaker 2: man to be fair for the second goal from Finland.

1927
01:38:54,027 --> 01:38:56,867
Speaker 2: But yeah, an All White staybut I think that he

1928
01:38:56,907 --> 01:39:00,067
Speaker 2: can be relatively pleased with Lachland bayless. The All Whites

1929
01:39:00,067 --> 01:39:04,667
Speaker 2: play Chili Monday night, seven fifteen at Eden Park two

1930
01:39:04,787 --> 01:39:06,907
Speaker 2: twenty two. Take a Break, Come Back Can joined in

1931
01:39:06,987 --> 01:39:10,027
Speaker 2: studio by Auckland FC head coach Steve Coricker.

1932
01:39:10,547 --> 01:39:14,427
Speaker 1: We're the weekend's biggest calls are me Weekend Sport with

1933
01:39:14,667 --> 01:39:18,707
Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Gardner Homes, New Zealand's most trusted

1934
01:39:18,787 --> 01:39:19,947
Speaker 1: home builder News Talks.

1935
01:39:19,947 --> 01:39:23,147
Speaker 2: There'd be two twenty five on Weekend Sport. No games

1936
01:39:23,227 --> 01:39:25,107
Speaker 2: for Auckland f C or the Wellington Phoenix and the

1937
01:39:25,147 --> 01:39:28,147
Speaker 2: A League Men's competition this weekend international break as we've

1938
01:39:28,227 --> 01:39:30,147
Speaker 2: just mentioned with the All Whites and also the socceros

1939
01:39:30,307 --> 01:39:33,987
Speaker 2: in action, So Auckland f C have a weekend off

1940
01:39:34,587 --> 01:39:37,627
Speaker 2: well of sorts. I guess Auckland f C coach Steve

1941
01:39:37,707 --> 01:39:39,387
Speaker 2: Coricker in the middle of what could be a day

1942
01:39:39,387 --> 01:39:42,067
Speaker 2: off for you, Steve has popped into the studio. Good

1943
01:39:42,107 --> 01:39:44,507
Speaker 2: to see you. Let's start there. Do the players get

1944
01:39:44,587 --> 01:39:46,707
Speaker 2: some time off during the international break?

1945
01:39:47,987 --> 01:39:50,747
Speaker 17: They do, They got two days off after MacArthur game,

1946
01:39:51,867 --> 01:39:54,787
Speaker 17: come back a little bit fresher, take a little bit

1947
01:39:54,827 --> 01:39:58,507
Speaker 17: of time with the family. But yeah, only two days off. Obviously,

1948
01:39:58,787 --> 01:40:00,587
Speaker 17: this week is still a busy week. We played an

1949
01:40:00,587 --> 01:40:03,347
Speaker 17: in house game today. We brought a couple of players

1950
01:40:03,387 --> 01:40:05,347
Speaker 17: in from the Pro League and the reserve team as

1951
01:40:05,427 --> 01:40:08,347
Speaker 17: well to see what they're like against our boys, which

1952
01:40:08,507 --> 01:40:12,787
Speaker 17: obviously helped us out because we were five shorts. So yeah,

1953
01:40:13,027 --> 01:40:15,747
Speaker 17: it's just still full focus. I think after you know,

1954
01:40:15,987 --> 01:40:17,587
Speaker 17: after the game against MacArthur, can.

1955
01:40:17,547 --> 01:40:20,107
Speaker 2: Ask you about the MacArthur game. You described it as

1956
01:40:20,387 --> 01:40:23,467
Speaker 2: one of your side's worst performances of the season. Was

1957
01:40:23,507 --> 01:40:27,667
Speaker 2: there anything that specifically disappointed you? Upon having a sickond.

1958
01:40:27,387 --> 01:40:31,427
Speaker 17: Look, I suppose the disappointing thing for me was after

1959
01:40:31,587 --> 01:40:34,427
Speaker 17: the brilliant performance we put on against Newcastle the week

1960
01:40:34,467 --> 01:40:36,107
Speaker 17: before that, we sort of let ourselves down in the

1961
01:40:36,147 --> 01:40:39,187
Speaker 17: MacArthur game, especially being at home in front of our

1962
01:40:39,227 --> 01:40:41,027
Speaker 17: home fans. You know, you want to you want to

1963
01:40:41,027 --> 01:40:43,427
Speaker 17: win your home games, and especially it was such an

1964
01:40:43,467 --> 01:40:47,547
Speaker 17: important game for us at the time. Unfortunately, you know,

1965
01:40:47,667 --> 01:40:49,787
Speaker 17: it wasn't one or two players off. I think everyone

1966
01:40:49,947 --> 01:40:53,387
Speaker 17: was off in the game and didn't perform at the

1967
01:40:54,227 --> 01:40:56,987
Speaker 17: levels that we expect. And they understand that, the players,

1968
01:40:57,467 --> 01:41:01,787
Speaker 17: We've spoken about it. It's how they respond now. Obviously

1969
01:41:02,067 --> 01:41:04,867
Speaker 17: still a four point gap now to obviously with Newcastle

1970
01:41:04,907 --> 01:41:07,467
Speaker 17: beating Sydney in the last couple of minutes, how do.

1971
01:41:07,507 --> 01:41:12,147
Speaker 2: You balance being honest, being critical, being forthright worth making

1972
01:41:12,227 --> 01:41:14,587
Speaker 2: sure that their confidence doesn't take a hit.

1973
01:41:15,227 --> 01:41:17,747
Speaker 17: Yeah, obviously, you know we've been on a good run.

1974
01:41:17,827 --> 01:41:20,987
Speaker 17: I think six on beat and so you know, it's

1975
01:41:21,107 --> 01:41:23,307
Speaker 17: very hard to go a full season without getting beat.

1976
01:41:23,347 --> 01:41:26,867
Speaker 17: It's going to happen. I'd rather get beat playing a

1977
01:41:26,907 --> 01:41:28,667
Speaker 17: little bit better than what we did as well, because

1978
01:41:28,747 --> 01:41:32,267
Speaker 17: that's wasn't our normal self. I don't think against MacArthur,

1979
01:41:32,387 --> 01:41:37,507
Speaker 17: maybe we got a little complacency as well. Maybe I

1980
01:41:37,587 --> 01:41:39,947
Speaker 17: know it's hard to believe, but maybe a little bit

1981
01:41:40,027 --> 01:41:43,307
Speaker 17: complacent with the win after Newcastle and then leading into

1982
01:41:43,347 --> 01:41:45,027
Speaker 17: the MacArthur. It was never going to be easy. I've

1983
01:41:45,067 --> 01:41:49,107
Speaker 17: told them that. But you know, sometimes after a great

1984
01:41:49,187 --> 01:41:52,187
Speaker 17: performance like they did against Newcastle, you know the next

1985
01:41:52,227 --> 01:41:53,267
Speaker 17: week is a little bit lower.

1986
01:41:53,827 --> 01:41:56,227
Speaker 2: You've said an incredibly high bar at this club. That

1987
01:41:56,307 --> 01:41:59,987
Speaker 2: was your fiftieth game, just your ninth defeat in fifty games.

1988
01:42:01,387 --> 01:42:05,267
Speaker 2: Is that why you know performances like this perhaps stand

1989
01:42:05,307 --> 01:42:07,747
Speaker 2: out so much because they are so infrequent.

1990
01:42:08,027 --> 01:42:13,547
Speaker 17: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, I think we've we've had a great

1991
01:42:13,587 --> 01:42:19,227
Speaker 17: run obviously, only nine nine defeats in almost two years now.

1992
01:42:19,387 --> 01:42:23,147
Speaker 17: And yeah, we prode ourselves on working hard. We're a

1993
01:42:23,187 --> 01:42:25,147
Speaker 17: hard working team. I think we probably went away from

1994
01:42:25,187 --> 01:42:27,467
Speaker 17: that against MacArthur. The boys actually spoke about that and

1995
01:42:28,627 --> 01:42:31,307
Speaker 17: they've got to understand what we're all about, and you know,

1996
01:42:31,387 --> 01:42:35,067
Speaker 17: I think they were more physical than us when normally

1997
01:42:35,187 --> 01:42:37,547
Speaker 17: we're we're right on it, and you know, we just

1998
01:42:37,627 --> 01:42:39,947
Speaker 17: have to go back. Sometimes it's it's a reminder of

1999
01:42:40,107 --> 01:42:43,187
Speaker 17: what we're about. I think we've had that reminder. Hopefully

2000
01:42:43,227 --> 01:42:47,627
Speaker 17: we can respond against Adelaide. But yeah, obviously nine defeats it's,

2001
01:42:48,547 --> 01:42:50,627
Speaker 17: you know, it's pretty pretty good I think in the

2002
01:42:50,707 --> 01:42:52,467
Speaker 17: first especially for the first couple of years of a

2003
01:42:52,507 --> 01:42:54,387
Speaker 17: club that we know, we started from scratch.

2004
01:42:54,787 --> 01:42:56,627
Speaker 2: I know you can't control the schedule, but would you

2005
01:42:56,707 --> 01:42:59,027
Speaker 2: have preferred not to have the international break or in

2006
01:42:59,107 --> 01:43:00,587
Speaker 2: some ways is it not a bad thing?

2007
01:43:01,467 --> 01:43:05,347
Speaker 17: Well, we will see, Piney, I think in Adelaide obviously

2008
01:43:05,547 --> 01:43:08,627
Speaker 17: for me, you and bounce back quickly after after a loss,

2009
01:43:09,747 --> 01:43:13,827
Speaker 17: especially the way it went about. It also can be

2010
01:43:13,907 --> 01:43:16,147
Speaker 17: a good thing to freshen up a little bit, give

2011
01:43:16,187 --> 01:43:19,667
Speaker 17: them a couple of days off, a little bit of

2012
01:43:19,747 --> 01:43:21,187
Speaker 17: a down week, if you want to call it that.

2013
01:43:21,387 --> 01:43:24,827
Speaker 17: But also with us having so many players away as well,

2014
01:43:25,067 --> 01:43:28,227
Speaker 17: you know, you can't work on too much tactics leading

2015
01:43:28,227 --> 01:43:30,107
Speaker 17: into the Adelaide game until they get back, and they

2016
01:43:30,187 --> 01:43:32,827
Speaker 17: only get back on Tuesday. We fly out on Wednesday,

2017
01:43:32,987 --> 01:43:35,707
Speaker 17: so there's not a lot of time. Obviously, we've got

2018
01:43:35,747 --> 01:43:37,707
Speaker 17: to see how much that them boys play as well

2019
01:43:37,787 --> 01:43:41,867
Speaker 17: in the internationals and to select any kind of team

2020
01:43:42,147 --> 01:43:42,947
Speaker 17: against Adelaide.

2021
01:43:43,467 --> 01:43:45,587
Speaker 2: Do you still believe you can retain the premiers played

2022
01:43:46,427 --> 01:43:46,787
Speaker 2: right now?

2023
01:43:46,987 --> 01:43:50,907
Speaker 17: Yes, we spoke about this as well. I think at

2024
01:43:50,947 --> 01:43:53,867
Speaker 17: the moment all we should be concentrating on is winning

2025
01:43:53,907 --> 01:43:58,107
Speaker 17: our next four games. Whatever happens with Newcastle, you know

2026
01:43:58,907 --> 01:44:00,907
Speaker 17: that's going to be the situation, but we can't control that.

2027
01:44:01,387 --> 01:44:05,187
Speaker 17: We can control what we're doing in our games and

2028
01:44:05,947 --> 01:44:07,547
Speaker 17: if we get four wins out of four, which is

2029
01:44:07,587 --> 01:44:09,787
Speaker 17: going to be tough anyway, because we're playing some difficult

2030
01:44:09,827 --> 01:44:14,987
Speaker 17: teams who are right right behind us, but they played

2031
01:44:14,987 --> 01:44:18,227
Speaker 17: the same team, so anything can happen. But right now, yeah,

2032
01:44:18,227 --> 01:44:19,547
Speaker 17: we still believe we can do it.

2033
01:44:20,187 --> 01:44:23,107
Speaker 2: In the last month or so, you've used Lachland Brook

2034
01:44:23,467 --> 01:44:25,907
Speaker 2: in a bench roll, Louis Vustrada was injured, He's coming

2035
01:44:26,107 --> 01:44:28,507
Speaker 2: and been used off the bench in the last few

2036
01:44:28,547 --> 01:44:31,347
Speaker 2: games as well. Are you, without giving away what you're

2037
01:44:31,347 --> 01:44:33,507
Speaker 2: going to do against Adelaide, are you thinking now about

2038
01:44:33,907 --> 01:44:35,987
Speaker 2: reintroducing those two into the starting eleven.

2039
01:44:38,387 --> 01:44:42,707
Speaker 17: Possibly? Yeah, I think you know providing you know, they're

2040
01:44:42,747 --> 01:44:46,667
Speaker 17: performing as well. I think Louis ustrate was a real

2041
01:44:46,747 --> 01:44:49,387
Speaker 17: positive well for both of them, but moreso Louis because

2042
01:44:49,427 --> 01:44:52,147
Speaker 17: he had a little bit of a quad issue. He

2043
01:44:52,187 --> 01:44:54,507
Speaker 17: played ninety minutes today in our in house game without

2044
01:44:54,627 --> 01:44:56,787
Speaker 17: feeling it, So that's a that's a real good sign

2045
01:44:56,867 --> 01:45:02,547
Speaker 17: for us and Lockeybrook today. You know, he was away

2046
01:45:02,587 --> 01:45:04,427
Speaker 17: in Adelaide for a couple of days. He got back,

2047
01:45:04,947 --> 01:45:07,267
Speaker 17: he played the game today and also very positive from

2048
01:45:07,547 --> 01:45:11,307
Speaker 17: his point of view. So yeah, you know, they're very

2049
01:45:11,347 --> 01:45:15,867
Speaker 17: important players for us. I think, yeah, obviously, we, like

2050
01:45:15,947 --> 01:45:17,587
Speaker 17: I said, we have to weigh up when the boys

2051
01:45:17,627 --> 01:45:21,227
Speaker 17: get back from the All Whites and put a team together.

2052
01:45:21,587 --> 01:45:23,787
Speaker 2: I guess the question about lockey Brook, I guess is

2053
01:45:23,827 --> 01:45:25,827
Speaker 2: because he was he was playing so well for you.

2054
01:45:25,987 --> 01:45:29,667
Speaker 2: You know, he was brilliant. He was Johnny Warren conversation material.

2055
01:45:29,747 --> 01:45:32,467
Speaker 2: And then he left him on the bench for the derby,

2056
01:45:32,587 --> 01:45:34,947
Speaker 2: came on, scored a goal, and I guess a lot

2057
01:45:34,947 --> 01:45:36,907
Speaker 2: of people thought, Okay, well he's just been freshened up.

2058
01:45:37,747 --> 01:45:39,667
Speaker 2: But that's five games off the bench now for one

2059
01:45:39,707 --> 01:45:41,147
Speaker 2: of your best players. So how do you how do

2060
01:45:41,187 --> 01:45:42,747
Speaker 2: you go about your selection decisions.

2061
01:45:42,827 --> 01:45:46,227
Speaker 17: Well, you know, probably unfortunately for Lockee is that's when

2062
01:45:46,267 --> 01:45:48,187
Speaker 17: we started going on our one of our best runs

2063
01:45:48,227 --> 01:45:51,587
Speaker 17: of the season. So it's very hard to it's not impossible,

2064
01:45:51,667 --> 01:45:55,627
Speaker 17: but you know, I think, you know, Logan has been

2065
01:45:55,667 --> 01:45:58,507
Speaker 17: doing really well for us. Probably that position there is

2066
01:45:58,547 --> 01:46:00,667
Speaker 17: the one that's keeping him out. Maybe Gashama. We've played

2067
01:46:00,707 --> 01:46:02,987
Speaker 17: him as a ten as well. I think Gashamo has

2068
01:46:03,027 --> 01:46:07,547
Speaker 17: been doing really well for us as well. So it's

2069
01:46:07,547 --> 01:46:10,587
Speaker 17: hard obviously, and he has been doing well Lockie obviously

2070
01:46:10,627 --> 01:46:13,667
Speaker 17: scoring goals, but you know he needs to be consistent

2071
01:46:13,707 --> 01:46:16,347
Speaker 17: as well, and you know, I want him back in

2072
01:46:16,387 --> 01:46:18,547
Speaker 17: the team as as quickly as possible, but you know,

2073
01:46:18,587 --> 01:46:21,027
Speaker 17: he's also got to perform. And even on the weekend

2074
01:46:21,067 --> 01:46:23,547
Speaker 17: against MacArthur, he come on and he probably wasn't his

2075
01:46:23,627 --> 01:46:27,867
Speaker 17: best like the rest of the boys. But yeah, at

2076
01:46:27,907 --> 01:46:31,747
Speaker 17: some stage I think he's he's a game changer if he,

2077
01:46:32,147 --> 01:46:34,747
Speaker 17: you know, does what we expect from him, and if

2078
01:46:34,787 --> 01:46:36,627
Speaker 17: he's not doing what we expect from him, well then

2079
01:46:36,667 --> 01:46:37,947
Speaker 17: someone else is going to take this spot.

2080
01:46:38,307 --> 01:46:40,547
Speaker 2: Well it's no surprise, I mean, you've always been loyaltyer

2081
01:46:40,587 --> 01:46:43,427
Speaker 2: winning teams, so yeah, so it's it's it's just a

2082
01:46:43,467 --> 01:46:47,547
Speaker 2: continuation of that strategy. Hierarchi Sakai. His involvement has been

2083
01:46:47,587 --> 01:46:49,987
Speaker 2: limited this season. He's only played ninety minutes for you

2084
01:46:50,147 --> 01:46:53,467
Speaker 2: five times. How much are you missing his influence?

2085
01:46:54,787 --> 01:46:58,547
Speaker 17: Yeah, definitely we are. You know, he's he's obviously a captain,

2086
01:46:58,667 --> 01:47:01,467
Speaker 17: he's a he's a great leader, and he's a great footballer.

2087
01:47:02,427 --> 01:47:04,427
Speaker 17: You know, he's had his issues this this season with

2088
01:47:04,547 --> 01:47:06,787
Speaker 17: his hamstring, which he which he did last but not

2089
01:47:07,147 --> 01:47:09,427
Speaker 17: as bad. This is the third time now, I think

2090
01:47:09,467 --> 01:47:12,827
Speaker 17: with the hamstring this year, and unfortunately that happens I

2091
01:47:12,867 --> 01:47:17,547
Speaker 17: think with older players sometimes and short turnarounds. But he

2092
01:47:17,587 --> 01:47:20,107
Speaker 17: will be back for the Adelaide game, which is great,

2093
01:47:20,187 --> 01:47:24,907
Speaker 17: and Nando as well. In what capacity. We're not quite

2094
01:47:24,907 --> 01:47:27,107
Speaker 17: sure yet because he hasn't done too much training with us.

2095
01:47:27,227 --> 01:47:29,627
Speaker 17: Nando did play today in the in house game, which

2096
01:47:29,787 --> 01:47:32,627
Speaker 17: was great, which was forty five minutes for him, but

2097
01:47:32,787 --> 01:47:35,787
Speaker 17: not Arochi so but I'm sure in the next couple

2098
01:47:35,787 --> 01:47:38,067
Speaker 17: of days he'll start doing some training with the team

2099
01:47:38,147 --> 01:47:40,667
Speaker 17: and be available for Adelie.

2100
01:47:41,187 --> 01:47:42,867
Speaker 2: Five of your players are on with the All Whites.

2101
01:47:44,067 --> 01:47:46,267
Speaker 2: How much do you worry about them picking up injuries

2102
01:47:46,307 --> 01:47:46,987
Speaker 2: while they're away?

2103
01:47:48,107 --> 01:47:51,187
Speaker 17: Yeah, a lot obviously five important players and for me

2104
01:47:51,387 --> 01:47:55,307
Speaker 17: sometimes the leading to the All Whites. They're obviously thinking

2105
01:47:55,347 --> 01:47:58,987
Speaker 17: about the games as well. The game after the All

2106
01:47:59,067 --> 01:48:03,667
Speaker 17: Whites is also a tough one for us because just depends.

2107
01:48:03,787 --> 01:48:07,307
Speaker 17: Like Francis for instance, if he plays both games, obviously

2108
01:48:07,587 --> 01:48:10,707
Speaker 17: you know how he backs up after we've traveled to Adelaide.

2109
01:48:11,467 --> 01:48:13,227
Speaker 17: The good thing I suppose they're in New Zealand at

2110
01:48:13,227 --> 01:48:16,187
Speaker 17: the moment in Auckland, so that's that's positive for us.

2111
01:48:17,347 --> 01:48:19,427
Speaker 17: But they're the things that you worry about as a coach.

2112
01:48:19,467 --> 01:48:22,587
Speaker 17: Obviously injuries as well picking up injuries, but also how

2113
01:48:22,747 --> 01:48:25,427
Speaker 17: do they come out of, you know, the All Whites

2114
01:48:25,587 --> 01:48:27,307
Speaker 17: camp and what frame of mind they're in.

2115
01:48:27,827 --> 01:48:29,547
Speaker 2: I look at those five players who are in the

2116
01:48:29,627 --> 01:48:32,107
Speaker 2: All Whites and I think to myself, when Auckland FC

2117
01:48:32,227 --> 01:48:35,427
Speaker 2: started up, I don't reckon any of the five would

2118
01:48:35,467 --> 01:48:38,747
Speaker 2: have been confident of being involved in All White squad.

2119
01:48:39,307 --> 01:48:41,787
Speaker 2: Now there are five of them there and a couple

2120
01:48:41,827 --> 01:48:44,227
Speaker 2: of others, so perhaps might have had strong claims as well.

2121
01:48:45,027 --> 01:48:48,187
Speaker 2: Do you talk to your players about their international ambitions.

2122
01:48:48,747 --> 01:48:51,107
Speaker 17: When we sign them, Yeah, of course, you know a

2123
01:48:51,187 --> 01:48:53,427
Speaker 17: lot of the boys that's what they want to do

2124
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Speaker 17: and this is obviously a World Cup year. Everyone is

2125
01:48:57,587 --> 01:49:00,347
Speaker 17: trying to get into that team, and you know, it's

2126
01:49:00,387 --> 01:49:02,987
Speaker 17: good timing obviously for us as well that we've started

2127
01:49:03,067 --> 01:49:05,027
Speaker 17: the you know, in the last couple of years. It

2128
01:49:05,107 --> 01:49:08,827
Speaker 17: gives a key board his opportunities to play obviously for us,

2129
01:49:08,947 --> 01:49:11,747
Speaker 17: but also give himself an opportunity to get into the

2130
01:49:11,827 --> 01:49:15,867
Speaker 17: national team. You know, Beays is watching basically every session

2131
01:49:15,867 --> 01:49:19,867
Speaker 17: because he's outside our training ground, and you know, them

2132
01:49:19,907 --> 01:49:23,027
Speaker 17: players have been doing really well. So again it's about

2133
01:49:23,107 --> 01:49:26,507
Speaker 17: being consistent for us and performing for us, and if

2134
01:49:26,587 --> 01:49:29,107
Speaker 17: they do that, they've they've given himself the best possible

2135
01:49:29,187 --> 01:49:30,987
Speaker 17: chance to make in that World Cup squad.

2136
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Speaker 2: They also catch the eye of overseas suitors, don't they.

2137
01:49:33,387 --> 01:49:37,107
Speaker 2: Jessey Randalls have the best example, I think, do you.

2138
01:49:37,547 --> 01:49:39,427
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously you'd love to have jess Randall play

2139
01:49:39,507 --> 01:49:42,587
Speaker 2: with you forever, I'm sure, But do you feel a

2140
01:49:42,667 --> 01:49:45,347
Speaker 2: sense of pride and getting him to the point where

2141
01:49:45,387 --> 01:49:47,547
Speaker 2: a club like Dundee United is looking at him?

2142
01:49:48,067 --> 01:49:48,227
Speaker 13: Yeah?

2143
01:49:48,267 --> 01:49:50,147
Speaker 17: I think I've played a small part in that, but

2144
01:49:50,267 --> 01:49:52,067
Speaker 17: I think you know, he's come back, like I said,

2145
01:49:52,187 --> 01:49:56,147
Speaker 17: this season, a different person, a different beast as well.

2146
01:49:56,307 --> 01:49:59,387
Speaker 17: He's performing he's scoring goals, he's creating goals, he works

2147
01:49:59,427 --> 01:50:02,787
Speaker 17: hard for the team, So you know that's you know,

2148
01:50:02,947 --> 01:50:06,947
Speaker 17: his choice to do and you know he fully deserves it. Yeah,

2149
01:50:06,947 --> 01:50:09,427
Speaker 17: I would like him to stay another year or so,

2150
01:50:11,107 --> 01:50:15,867
Speaker 17: but also very proud that he has the opportunity to.

2151
01:50:17,067 --> 01:50:18,947
Speaker 17: You know, for every young boy he wants to play

2152
01:50:18,987 --> 01:50:21,107
Speaker 17: over seas and give himself the opportunity to do that,

2153
01:50:21,227 --> 01:50:23,107
Speaker 17: play in a World Cup. He's given himself a chance

2154
01:50:23,147 --> 01:50:26,427
Speaker 17: to do that as well, so we're happy for him.

2155
01:50:26,707 --> 01:50:29,147
Speaker 2: Something else you've done this year the season is you've

2156
01:50:29,187 --> 01:50:33,347
Speaker 2: given some new players minutes. I know you did last year,

2157
01:50:33,627 --> 01:50:35,747
Speaker 2: but it feels like it was more regular this season.

2158
01:50:36,267 --> 01:50:39,067
Speaker 2: Luka Visselitch is one I'd like to ask you about specifically.

2159
01:50:39,667 --> 01:50:42,467
Speaker 2: How do you know that a young player is ready.

2160
01:50:42,347 --> 01:50:46,147
Speaker 17: For that level? Sometimes you don't know until you throw

2161
01:50:46,227 --> 01:50:48,347
Speaker 17: them in and I think he's he's one of them, obviously,

2162
01:50:48,667 --> 01:50:53,027
Speaker 17: you know. Sometimes I think last season probably you know,

2163
01:50:53,107 --> 01:50:56,147
Speaker 17: we had a pretty good track record with without injuries.

2164
01:50:56,507 --> 01:51:00,027
Speaker 17: This year there's probably even a little bit more of injuries,

2165
01:51:00,507 --> 01:51:04,387
Speaker 17: which then gives other people opportunities, and that's sometimes how

2166
01:51:04,467 --> 01:51:08,187
Speaker 17: young players come into sides. And I think, you know,

2167
01:51:08,547 --> 01:51:12,387
Speaker 17: we've seen him train with the boys. You know, he's

2168
01:51:12,427 --> 01:51:14,587
Speaker 17: done a great job training with the boys. He's playing

2169
01:51:14,667 --> 01:51:18,027
Speaker 17: the reserve team, played the pro league team as well

2170
01:51:18,107 --> 01:51:21,147
Speaker 17: and got man of the match. And you know he's

2171
01:51:21,187 --> 01:51:24,707
Speaker 17: part of us now. And yeah, I don't look at

2172
01:51:24,747 --> 01:51:26,587
Speaker 17: it like he's the agri anic like that. I just

2173
01:51:26,667 --> 01:51:28,627
Speaker 17: think what he can do for the team. I threw

2174
01:51:28,707 --> 01:51:31,067
Speaker 17: him in a couple of weeks ago, I think, off

2175
01:51:31,107 --> 01:51:36,467
Speaker 17: the bench the last game, and he did a great job.

2176
01:51:37,507 --> 01:51:41,627
Speaker 2: How much have you changed or not in your time

2177
01:51:41,987 --> 01:51:43,707
Speaker 2: at Auckland FC. If you think about the coach who

2178
01:51:43,787 --> 01:51:46,067
Speaker 2: arrived here and the coach you are now, are you

2179
01:51:46,147 --> 01:51:48,667
Speaker 2: pretty much the same coach, the same human being?

2180
01:51:50,307 --> 01:51:53,107
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think so. I don't think I've changed that

2181
01:51:53,227 --> 01:51:57,907
Speaker 17: much over the two years. Yeah, no, I don't. I

2182
01:51:58,067 --> 01:52:00,947
Speaker 17: don't think so. I think I'm probably the same person. Yeah, obviously,

2183
01:52:01,027 --> 01:52:04,507
Speaker 17: you know, living away from my family's obviously been pretty

2184
01:52:04,547 --> 01:52:05,627
Speaker 17: tough for this my second year.

2185
01:52:05,707 --> 01:52:05,867
Speaker 4: Now.

2186
01:52:07,667 --> 01:52:10,987
Speaker 17: Other than that, I think, you know, coaching wise, I

2187
01:52:11,067 --> 01:52:13,907
Speaker 17: think we've changed a little bit. I think maybe this

2188
01:52:14,067 --> 01:52:17,507
Speaker 17: year more so than last season, but I think we

2189
01:52:17,587 --> 01:52:20,507
Speaker 17: did that as well last season. The system, depending on

2190
01:52:20,547 --> 01:52:24,307
Speaker 17: the games, we probably changed the back five lading games

2191
01:52:24,387 --> 01:52:26,907
Speaker 17: last season to see games out this year. Maybe we've

2192
01:52:26,947 --> 01:52:29,867
Speaker 17: started with a couple of back fives or back three's,

2193
01:52:29,907 --> 01:52:31,587
Speaker 17: what do you will call it. But yeah, I don't

2194
01:52:31,587 --> 01:52:32,387
Speaker 17: think I've changed that much.

2195
01:52:32,467 --> 01:52:34,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, I suppose. The reason I asked the question as

2196
01:52:34,867 --> 01:52:37,507
Speaker 2: you've been spectacularly successful at this club, not that you

2197
01:52:37,587 --> 01:52:40,707
Speaker 2: weren't at Sydney of C as well, but I just wonder,

2198
01:52:40,747 --> 01:52:43,587
Speaker 2: you know, come into a different country, a new club,

2199
01:52:43,707 --> 01:52:47,067
Speaker 2: that that's something new for everybody that you know, you

2200
01:52:47,147 --> 01:52:49,827
Speaker 2: stuck to your principles and you obviously have great faith

2201
01:52:50,187 --> 01:52:51,427
Speaker 2: in your coaching principles.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think you have to,

2203
01:52:53,707 --> 01:52:56,187
Speaker 17: I think, but you know, you have to change as

2204
01:52:56,227 --> 01:52:58,387
Speaker 17: well as a coach. It's not like, you know, I

2205
01:52:58,467 --> 01:53:02,547
Speaker 17: haven't changed in Sydney. I think I have definitely, But

2206
01:53:02,787 --> 01:53:06,907
Speaker 17: I believe in the way I coach and the way

2207
01:53:06,987 --> 01:53:09,107
Speaker 17: the players that the players that we brought in that

2208
01:53:09,227 --> 01:53:13,667
Speaker 17: they are good enough to win. You know, we've changed

2209
01:53:13,667 --> 01:53:15,987
Speaker 17: a few players from the first season as well, and

2210
01:53:16,427 --> 01:53:18,587
Speaker 17: you know, I think they've been been good as well.

2211
01:53:18,627 --> 01:53:20,667
Speaker 17: If you look at Cozy Lucky Brook, both have been

2212
01:53:20,947 --> 01:53:24,947
Speaker 17: very good. Jake Goob would write, I'm not too sure

2213
01:53:24,987 --> 01:53:28,867
Speaker 17: who else we've brought in, but that's football. I think,

2214
01:53:28,987 --> 01:53:30,627
Speaker 17: you know you have to change a little bit, but

2215
01:53:31,187 --> 01:53:33,707
Speaker 17: you know you still stick to your principals and.

2216
01:53:33,787 --> 01:53:35,467
Speaker 2: A change at Sydney FC. In the last couple of

2217
01:53:35,547 --> 01:53:39,187
Speaker 2: days UK Telly Man, you know well has said goodbye.

2218
01:53:39,307 --> 01:53:40,667
Speaker 2: Was that a surprise when you heard that news?

2219
01:53:41,027 --> 01:53:43,627
Speaker 17: It was actually with four games to go? Yep, definitely.

2220
01:53:44,307 --> 01:53:47,627
Speaker 17: There's been a lot of talk about him and obviously

2221
01:53:48,787 --> 01:53:52,627
Speaker 17: maybe going to the Wanderers. You know he's out of

2222
01:53:52,707 --> 01:53:57,267
Speaker 17: contract that Sydney hadn't offer him anything, so you know,

2223
01:53:57,347 --> 01:53:59,307
Speaker 17: as a coach you have to feed the family. I

2224
01:53:59,507 --> 01:54:03,467
Speaker 17: understand what if he's going through and if he goes

2225
01:54:03,467 --> 01:54:05,867
Speaker 17: to the Wanderers, it's a pretty big move for idg

2226
01:54:05,987 --> 01:54:08,627
Speaker 17: after in FC straight to the Wanderers. But I don't

2227
01:54:08,627 --> 01:54:10,427
Speaker 17: know what he's doing or if you haven't spoke to him,

2228
01:54:10,467 --> 01:54:11,787
Speaker 17: but yeah, it was a big shock to be.

2229
01:54:11,787 --> 01:54:13,827
Speaker 2: Honest, all right, Steve. Great to get the chance to

2230
01:54:13,907 --> 01:54:15,227
Speaker 2: chat to you in an off week, well an off

2231
01:54:15,267 --> 01:54:16,907
Speaker 2: week for the team anyway. All the best of the

2232
01:54:16,947 --> 01:54:19,787
Speaker 2: remaining four games, starting with Adelaide and beyond that, look

2233
01:54:19,827 --> 01:54:21,987
Speaker 2: forward to seeing how deep you can go into the final.

2234
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Speaker 4: Series.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Steve. Steve Coriker joining us in studio

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2292
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2293
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2294
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Speaker 2: of youngsters expected on the turf for a children's concert tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Blair to prepare and then execute a stretch like this?

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Speaker 15: It's up there. It's takes a lot of planning, Jase,

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01:57:55,307 --> 01:57:59,667
Speaker 15: and a little bit of luck as well. And you know,

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01:57:59,827 --> 01:58:02,467
Speaker 15: leading into this one, I think we had one hundred

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01:58:02,467 --> 01:58:05,827
Speaker 15: and twenty eight mils a train on Thursday, so that's

2305
01:58:05,907 --> 01:58:08,227
Speaker 15: sort of match day minus one for both the cricket

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Speaker 15: and the football. So there's a not a lot of

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01:58:11,507 --> 01:58:14,387
Speaker 15: sleep that night, just sort of listening to that sort

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01:58:14,427 --> 01:58:18,587
Speaker 15: of thirty hours of rain in a row. But we

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01:58:18,707 --> 01:58:21,507
Speaker 15: came to all right yesterday We had a bit of

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01:58:21,547 --> 01:58:23,747
Speaker 15: a break in the winter, so you know, an absolute

2311
01:58:23,787 --> 01:58:27,747
Speaker 15: belter of a day, twenty five degrees. Couldn't ask for

2312
01:58:27,787 --> 01:58:31,107
Speaker 15: a better It wasn't actually even fourcast so sort of

2313
01:58:31,467 --> 01:58:34,947
Speaker 15: got lucky there and so I got through last night

2314
01:58:35,347 --> 01:58:37,987
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2315
01:58:38,027 --> 01:58:40,707
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01:58:40,747 --> 01:58:43,067
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01:58:43,907 --> 01:58:48,387
Speaker 15: day prior a bit of a washout, and then the

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01:58:48,467 --> 01:58:52,747
Speaker 15: boys are just yes, sort of sort of just you know,

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01:58:52,827 --> 01:58:55,307
Speaker 15: getting through what we've planned, you know, in the weeks

2320
01:58:55,387 --> 01:58:57,867
Speaker 15: leading into this, and everyone's sticking all the boxes at

2321
01:58:57,907 --> 01:58:59,467
Speaker 15: the moment, and we've got another good day today, and

2322
01:58:59,587 --> 01:59:02,027
Speaker 15: was sort of what are we doing now? We're just

2323
01:59:02,107 --> 01:59:03,867
Speaker 15: putting in the super rugby field for tonight?

2324
01:59:03,907 --> 01:59:07,307
Speaker 7: Actually, yeah, what day was there?

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Speaker 2: To see what you're up to next? You talked about

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Speaker 2: planning there a couple of times. How far out do

2327
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Speaker 2: you start preparing for a weekend like.

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Speaker 15: This months months in advance. We're sort of fortunate that

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Speaker 15: time to do sort of proper planning, and we sort

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Speaker 15: of just try and hit targets of what we know

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01:59:29,027 --> 01:59:32,267
Speaker 15: that each code sort of need, you know, out of

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01:59:32,347 --> 01:59:37,067
Speaker 15: a surface, and you know, we're pretty close to niling

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Speaker 15: those all the time without the sort of congestion, and

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Speaker 15: so I'd like to think that we can get pretty

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01:59:43,027 --> 01:59:45,867
Speaker 15: close as well with the congestion. But sorry to challenge,

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01:59:45,907 --> 01:59:48,067
Speaker 15: but it's good fun as well, you know, it's something

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01:59:48,627 --> 01:59:51,187
Speaker 15: to look forward to rather than fear.

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01:59:52,067 --> 01:59:55,027
Speaker 2: How different are the turf demands between football last night

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Speaker 2: and rugby tonight.

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01:59:57,707 --> 02:00:01,787
Speaker 15: Football's you know, they need a good surface, the balls

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02:00:01,827 --> 02:00:03,787
Speaker 15: on the ground a lot. They rely on sort of

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02:00:03,827 --> 02:00:06,187
Speaker 15: one touch and you know, if you get a crop

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02:00:06,387 --> 02:00:08,987
Speaker 15: ouns in that eighteen yard box and that was your

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02:00:09,027 --> 02:00:11,907
Speaker 15: one opportunity to put one in the back of the net,

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02:00:12,067 --> 02:00:13,827
Speaker 15: you know, they want to take that opportunity. And you know,

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02:00:14,027 --> 02:00:16,907
Speaker 15: sometimes the field actually plays as much of a role

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02:00:16,987 --> 02:00:20,787
Speaker 15: as that good pass or or creating that space. And

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02:00:20,867 --> 02:00:23,107
Speaker 15: with the rugby, you know, they'll just have to sort

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02:00:23,107 --> 02:00:27,707
Speaker 15: of traction able to display their skills, stay in the

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02:00:27,747 --> 02:00:29,387
Speaker 15: field of play, you know, when you're trying to score

2352
02:00:29,427 --> 02:00:33,467
Speaker 15: in the corner, those types of things, and you know, so, yeah,

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02:00:33,467 --> 02:00:35,027
Speaker 15: we try to make sure that we can sort of

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02:00:35,787 --> 02:00:38,867
Speaker 15: deliver both for or you know, something for everyone.

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02:00:39,267 --> 02:00:42,507
Speaker 2: And if that wasn't challenging enough a children's concert, at

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02:00:42,587 --> 02:00:44,587
Speaker 2: least with football and rugby, nobody you know, from the

2357
02:00:44,627 --> 02:00:48,107
Speaker 2: crowd anyway goes on the grass. This is very different.

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02:00:48,267 --> 02:00:52,107
Speaker 2: What extra precautions do you need to take for tomorrow morning,

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02:00:52,387 --> 02:00:56,307
Speaker 2: for this concert with all those those young and slightly

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02:00:56,387 --> 02:00:57,507
Speaker 2: older feet on your grass.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's yeah, that's sort of a new one in

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02:01:00,747 --> 02:01:05,507
Speaker 15: amongst other contents, they were sort of pretty We've just

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02:01:05,587 --> 02:01:08,547
Speaker 15: been conservative, making sure that any sort of enter the

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02:01:08,587 --> 02:01:11,267
Speaker 15: areas like goal mouths in particular for football, are protected.

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02:01:13,027 --> 02:01:16,227
Speaker 15: And you know, it's just as there'll be bizarre as

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02:01:16,227 --> 02:01:18,827
Speaker 15: it sounds quite a bit of order with all the youngsters,

2367
02:01:18,947 --> 02:01:21,827
Speaker 15: and then I'm sure it'll get out of order when

2368
02:01:21,867 --> 02:01:25,947
Speaker 15: the music starts and the dancing happens, and and then

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02:01:26,067 --> 02:01:28,147
Speaker 15: you know we'll have all afternoon tomorrow at to sort

2370
02:01:28,147 --> 02:01:31,187
Speaker 15: of reprepare for Monday as well. So I think we've

2371
02:01:31,187 --> 02:01:33,187
Speaker 15: got enough time, and you know, everyone's out there to

2372
02:01:33,227 --> 02:01:34,707
Speaker 15: have a good time, and you know it's a couple

2373
02:01:34,707 --> 02:01:35,787
Speaker 15: of hours, so why not.

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02:01:36,507 --> 02:01:39,587
Speaker 2: Stadiums are now more and more being used as multipurpose venues.

2375
02:01:39,947 --> 02:01:41,547
Speaker 2: You know, you often have to turn things around in

2376
02:01:41,587 --> 02:01:43,027
Speaker 2: twenty four hours, don't you. This is a bit of

2377
02:01:43,027 --> 02:01:46,187
Speaker 2: an exception. But but is this kind of scheduling becoming

2378
02:01:46,747 --> 02:01:47,907
Speaker 2: the new normal now?

2379
02:01:48,947 --> 02:01:52,467
Speaker 15: I think it's it's sort of reaching the potential of

2380
02:01:52,547 --> 02:01:55,507
Speaker 15: what these venues you know, can achieve, as opposed to

2381
02:01:55,667 --> 02:01:58,547
Speaker 15: say the twenty events a year. This is you know,

2382
02:01:58,707 --> 02:02:01,507
Speaker 15: what we should be you know, doing more frequently. We

2383
02:02:01,587 --> 02:02:06,107
Speaker 15: should be sort of utilizing every sort of availability that

2384
02:02:06,147 --> 02:02:08,827
Speaker 15: we're gotten, you know, just putting the right event at

2385
02:02:08,827 --> 02:02:10,867
Speaker 15: the right venue. And you know, this weekend, I think

2386
02:02:11,027 --> 02:02:12,027
Speaker 15: I think we're probably doing that.

2387
02:02:12,547 --> 02:02:14,027
Speaker 2: Have you got a day off on Tuesday?

2388
02:02:15,067 --> 02:02:19,107
Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm given. I'm given everyone Tuesday off and but

2389
02:02:19,227 --> 02:02:21,187
Speaker 15: then we're back into it and you know, we got

2390
02:02:21,227 --> 02:02:23,307
Speaker 15: some stuff to do out on the outer oval with

2391
02:02:23,387 --> 02:02:25,427
Speaker 15: the cricket, and you know, then I'll do a little

2392
02:02:25,467 --> 02:02:28,827
Speaker 15: mini mini renovation out here on Field one, and then

2393
02:02:28,867 --> 02:02:31,827
Speaker 15: we're back into Super Rugby a couple of weekends later.

2394
02:02:31,987 --> 02:02:34,747
Speaker 15: So the timing's actually not too bad. I'd always planned

2395
02:02:34,827 --> 02:02:38,187
Speaker 15: to have a little rest on this field after this

2396
02:02:38,307 --> 02:02:41,627
Speaker 15: weekend of with the drewer, and there we months were

2397
02:02:41,667 --> 02:02:43,987
Speaker 15: loaded up, and then I'll do a little renovation and

2398
02:02:44,107 --> 02:02:47,187
Speaker 15: we'll we'll be back looking sharp sort of mid to

2399
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Speaker 15: late April.

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Speaker 2: Amazing work you do, Blair. Thanks for taking time out

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02:02:50,027 --> 02:02:52,187
Speaker 2: of your busy scheduley onto us. Fatals appreciate it.

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02:02:52,667 --> 02:02:54,747
Speaker 15: Not a problem, mat thanks for joining us.

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02:02:54,787 --> 02:02:54,987
Speaker 4: Blair.

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02:02:55,027 --> 02:02:57,667
Speaker 2: Blair Christians in there. He's the turf manager at Eden

2405
02:02:57,747 --> 02:03:00,947
Speaker 2: Park and they're working every hour God scenes across this

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02:03:01,027 --> 02:03:05,107
Speaker 2: weekend football Last night Rugby Tonight this this Orange Wiggle

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02:03:05,227 --> 02:03:07,827
Speaker 2: or the former Orange. I'm told she's got a concert

2408
02:03:07,827 --> 02:03:11,307
Speaker 2: there tomorrow morning. Emma Pemmer is her name. I'm told. Look,

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02:03:11,307 --> 02:03:13,627
Speaker 2: I'm just reading my notes and then football again on

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Speaker 2: Monday night. Amazing work that they do at Eden Park

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02:03:16,067 --> 02:03:16,547
Speaker 2: eight to three.

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Speaker 1: News Talks EDB analyzing the pleas and getting the inside

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02:03:21,547 --> 02:03:25,987
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine News Talks MB five to three.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty much us for today. Just stay a word

2415
02:03:28,667 --> 02:03:31,507
Speaker 2: about tomorrow. Our guest after midday on Weekend Sport tomorrow

2416
02:03:31,707 --> 02:03:34,947
Speaker 2: is all Blacks assistant coach Jason Ryan, who was about

2417
02:03:34,947 --> 02:03:38,227
Speaker 2: to go into his third coaching regime. Ian Foster, Scott

2418
02:03:38,347 --> 02:03:42,267
Speaker 2: Robertson now, Dave Rennie want a survivor, So Jason Ryan's

2419
02:03:42,267 --> 02:03:45,667
Speaker 2: our guest after midday on Weekend Sport tomorrow. Thanks for

2420
02:03:45,707 --> 02:03:49,107
Speaker 2: listening in Tim beverage after three huge thanks to Mark

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02:03:49,187 --> 02:03:51,787
Speaker 2: Kelly for running the cutter today. Your reward is the

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02:03:51,907 --> 02:03:54,587
Speaker 2: exit song what are We going with? You're two kinds?

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Speaker 24: This is all of the lights Kanye West Rhianni could

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02:03:58,187 --> 02:04:02,787
Speaker 24: cuddy from the debacle that was Mona pacifica Highlanders last

2425
02:04:02,867 --> 02:04:06,267
Speaker 24: night where it's lost of lights power whatever it was.

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Speaker 22: Extra ride job to say this turning here, baby, you

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Speaker 22: know what I need, want you to see everything I

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Speaker 22: want you to see.

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Speaker 21: Stating.

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Speaker 2: Somehow oh my head in Jay.

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