1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: The software that retailers used to report theft to police 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: is so good that it's actually overwhelming police. It's called Aura, 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: and reports have gone from four thousand a month in 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two to eight thousand a month this year. 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: Mike Johnson is the Assistant Commissioner at the New Zealand Police. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: Hey, Mike Gootta, how are you here? 7 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. Can you guys investigate everything 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: that it's sending your way. 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: Look, we always have to prioritize all of the information 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: in relation to crime. Theft or shoplifting is absolutely or 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 2: retail crime is absolutely a key part of it. 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: So how much do you think you get through if 13 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: they send you four thousand or in this case now 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: is obviously eight thousand a month, how much of that 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: gets wrapped up and investigated and finished. 16 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: Well, what happens with that is we make an assessment 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: on her. If there's lines of inquiry, then it gets 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: forwarded to district for further investigation and holding people to 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: account where we can. If there's no lines of inquiry 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 2: and that there is a percentage of that, then they 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: get assessed, they get closed. But like anything hither, if 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: this further information comes to us in relation to a 23 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: matter that we previously close, we'll reconsider it as well. 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: It's about ninety seven percent that actually meets you evidential threshold, 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: isn't it. 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: It's certainly well a high number. I don't have that 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: number in front of me. 28 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: Oka ninety so of eight ninety seven percent of getting 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: over the threshold, which is much higher than it was 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: previous to Aura. And now you've got the team who 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: investigate this kind of thing with a backlog so big 32 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: it's got sixty six thousand cases in January backed up. 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: There's no way you're going to be able to get 34 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: through all this stuff, is there. 35 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: So we're always prioritizing hither this is a good news story. 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 2: We want to know what the total crime picture is 37 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: for us, right and we want to series link. We 38 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: want to put together where there's prolific offenders and deal 39 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: with the other matters. Our jobs to prioritize to put 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: resources to the crime type in retail crimes absolutely in 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: that space. Just make a comment. The technology has changed. 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: We've always got to adapt to what comes through and 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: this is another example of that. And what you're seeing 44 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 2: is us pivot in relation to retail crime. We've set 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: up retail crime units you see city beat teams set 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: up with that presence linked to retailers, and then with 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 2: a national Retail Crime Unit investigation unit, which deals with 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: some of the aura stuff that comes through. There's a 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: number of other reporting lines or its absolutely a channel 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: and a significant one. But we also have the ten 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: to five online reporting front, counter reporting crime stoppers officer 52 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: discovered with the city Beat team, and then if there's 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: an offender present, we've also got the triple one. 54 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: Okay, wow, we've got really off topic. Hey, thanks, Mike, 55 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Mike appreciate a really in depth and explanation. 56 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: Of how that system works. 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, Assistant Police Commissioner. Let me just listen. Let 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: me just totally explain to you what he just said. No, 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to investigate everything that 60 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: retailer is ascending them. 61 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: There is too much for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 62 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: Listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 63 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.