1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: early edition with one roof make your property search simple, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: U stalks. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: It'd be wellcome morning to you. Thank you so much 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: for choosing the program. My name is Andrew Dickens. I'm 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: in for Brian Bridge. It's the start of the reporting season, 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: so I had to wish good luck to businesses and 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: their investors. Let's hope we'd see some green shoots, huh 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: okay on the program today. Coming up in the next hour, 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: New Zealand first introduce a bill to stop banks withdrawing 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 2: services from customers for woke reasons. We'll have more on 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: this with a banking expert in five minutes time. There 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 2: are two new political polls out that give a lean 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: to the left Block Bridget Morton. Political scientists will analyze 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: the numbers in about ten and the Prime ministers announced 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: a foreign investors summit to happen next month and what 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: do we want to get out of it. We'll talk 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: to Infrastructure New Zealand just before six. We'll have correspondences 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: from right around the world and New Zealand And news 20 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: as it breaks and you can text me on ninety 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: two ninety two small charge applies, or you can email 22 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: me Dickens at Newstalks atb dot co dot endz. 23 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: The agenda. 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: It is seven minutes after five. It is Tuesday, the 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: eleventh of February, and Donald Trump is back with the tariffs, 26 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: this time on steel and aluminium. He says he'll impose 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: a twenty five percent import tax on all steel and 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: aluminium that enter the country. 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: US steel making is in formerly heartland industrial states like 30 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania the russ Belt, places which were key voting blocks 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 3: for mister Trump. He believes that this will protect US 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: steel making domestically. 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: And wouldn't you know at Canada and Mexico are two 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: of the United states biggest steel trading partners, and Canada 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: is warning the tariffs would have a damaging impact on 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: its economy. Meanwhile, Australia says thousands of American jobs could 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: be lost if Donald Trump pushes ahead with those plans. 38 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: To Europe we go, and French President Emmanuel Macron says 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Europe is falling behind and in the AI race. At 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: a used AI he made a deep fake video of 41 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: himself to publicize the start of a two day AI 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: action summit which is taking place in Paris, Du coming 43 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: Dong now see Meanwhile, ahead of today's summit, France and 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: the United Arab Emirates have agreed on a deal to 45 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: invest billions of euros to build a giant AI data center. 46 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: I think the release of that video, as funny as 47 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: it is, is ready to say people, look, there are 48 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: these fears about AI. 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: It's misused. 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: The deep fakes I. 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 5: Have been used Frenan macer against lots of other politicians 52 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 5: as well. 53 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: And did you watch the big game yesterday, the Super Bowl? 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles celebrating they won forty twenty two. That's 55 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: a very flattering number for Kansas City Chiefs. This was 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: the fifty ninth Super Bowl play of Hollywood. A list 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 2: has responded in the stands. Taylor Swift was there, Bradley 58 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 2: Cooper was there, Jay Z was there, Donald Trump was there. 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: And the entertainment was Kendrick Lamar who took the stage 60 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: for the halftime show. And there was a surprise appearance 61 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: from Serena Williams's. 62 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: Up mikel Trona Baker, ain't you tie your trying to 63 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: strike a. 64 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 6: Clause in his. 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: No not say not like us, Thank you very much, 66 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Kendrick for your appearance. It is ten after five News. 67 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: And Views you trust to start your day. It's the 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: Property Search Simple. You've talked sid me. 70 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: So as I said yesterday, I am generally supportive of 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: the new so called golden visas which were announced on 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: Sunday for wealthy foreign investors wanting to come here because 73 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: you know, if you little helps right, But our the 74 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: visas a white night writing to save our economy? Do 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: they strike at the root of the barriers to our 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: wealth creation? Well not really. For all the good the 77 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: golden visas could do, there's just as much that's bad 78 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 2: about them, and they're not a unique proposition. About sixty 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: countries have had golden visas, but at the same time 80 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: many who instituted the visas then withdrew them due to 81 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: their unintended consequences. So Australia scrapped a similar scheme at 82 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 2: the beginning of the year. They decided the scheme added 83 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: little to the economy and facilitated fraud. Transparency International Australia 84 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: said corrupt officials and kleptocrats use golden visas as a 85 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: vehicle to park their illicit funds in Australia and hide 86 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: their proceeds of crime. Now Peter Dutton is considering reinstating them. 87 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: That's a political point of difference with Albanesi. Meanwhile, countries 88 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: in Europe have ended or titaned their schemes recently, places 89 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: like Spain, the UK, Ireland and the Netherlands. And that 90 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: was after the European Commission said that the golden passports 91 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: and golden visas pose serious risks to their security and 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: opened the door to corruption, money wandering and tax avoidance. Now, 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: when Australia dropped its scheme, it was calculated that it 94 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: cost them point zero zero two five percent of their GDP, 95 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: so its positive effect was negligible and so was the 96 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: cost of dropping them. Now compare that to Vanuatu, who 97 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: also have golden visas. They reported that their program contributed 98 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: a whopping fifty percent of government revenue in twenty twenty two, 99 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: So it's working for them. So the question for you remains, 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 2: are we more like Australia or are we more like 101 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: vanuat two? What do you think? Meanwhile, many economists will 102 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 2: agree that the key to generating wealth lays in our 103 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: hands at not unwealthy immigrants. And you know what that needs. 104 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: That needs a lower corporate tax rate and an end 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: to waste for spending resulting in a decrease in the 106 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: size of the state. Let's get into it. Twelve minutes 107 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: after fives. Now here's another funny old question for you. 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: Should the Prime Minister be getting legal advice on invading 109 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: the Cook Islands? No, I'm not joking Matthew Houghton's yesterday yesterday, 110 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: So we know the Cook Islands privatism about Brown is 111 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: off to China to sign a strategic partnership and other agreements. 112 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: We know that the Cook Islands is part of New Zealand, 113 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: part of our realm, and we are responsible for the 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: Cook Islands foreign policy and national defense. And we also 115 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: know that Cook Islanders are New Zealand citizens with all 116 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: the rights and responsibilities that come with that. So what 117 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 2: do we do about a Prime minister that's gone deal 118 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: making rogue in China? So we could cancel cut aid 119 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 2: to the Cook Islands, but that would simply make things 120 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 2: a lot worse because the matt Brown would just shrug 121 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: and say, oh, no problem, China will replace at tenfold, 122 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: which it probably would, So could we increase our aid 123 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: by a similar amount. That might be a better option. 124 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: But we've not got a lot of money, and that 125 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: would reward Matt Brown's bad behavior and he would come 126 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: back and ask for more. So is there a present 127 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: for invading the Cook Islands? Well? 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: There is. 129 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: David Longi ordered the SAS to invade Fiji back in 130 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven after the coup. He said, get in 131 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: there and secure New Zealand's interests. The military refused, The 132 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: SAS refuse because Fiji's a sovereign country, free to make 133 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: their own minds up even if they're wrong. So the 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: question is, should Christopher Luxen do a similar thing to 135 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: what David Longi did, send the sas in take over 136 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: the key government buildings and tell Mark Brown to start 137 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: having more conversations. Now, that would mean setting the Sas 138 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: on New Zealand. Citizens and military don't like doing that thing. 139 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 2: That's akin to civil war. So should we invade, should 140 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: we cut aid? Should we increase aid? What would you do? 141 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: The text number is ninety two ninety two. And meanwhile, 142 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: back at home, New Zealand first has come up with 143 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: a law, a bill to stop banks withdrawing their services 144 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: for any reason other than commercial bias. This is to 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: stop the wake banks. Could this work? A banking expertise 146 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: next the News. 147 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: You need this morning and begin e analysis early edition 148 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your Property search 149 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: simple youth talk said. 150 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: Be as goodbarding to you. It is now sixteen minutes 151 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: after five. So New Zealand first want banks to lend 152 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: to everyone, and they've introduced a bill to make that happen. 153 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: Now. 154 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: The bill would stop banks from withdrawing their services for 155 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: any reason other than a commercial basis. Withdrawal for so 156 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: called woke reasons such as environmental or social grounds would 157 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: make banks liable of fines of up to half a 158 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: million dollars. And this of course follows concerns that banks 159 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: won't lend to fossil fuel companies so that they can 160 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: achieve a clean green image. So we have a banking 161 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: expert with us. The associate professor at Massi University Business 162 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: School is Claire Matthews. Good morning to you, Claire, Good 163 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: morning Ellen. 164 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 7: Thanks. 165 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: What do you make of it? 166 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 7: Well, given what's been said by Shane Jones and the 167 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 7: recent pass it's not surprising that they've chosen to do it. 168 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 7: But I think it's fun to mentionally under understands why 169 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 7: the banks are making the decisions that they are. The fundamentally, 170 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 7: the decisions they make are a risk management decision, and 171 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 7: it would appear that under the legislation that they've introduced 172 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 7: that would still be possible. So it's unlikely to make 173 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 7: the difference that they are looking for. 174 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 2: Indeed, I mean, could the banks believe that damaging the 175 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: environment is damaging the economy actually be a valid commercial 176 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 2: reason for withdrawing their services. 177 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 7: It could be, but it's actually more likely. The pure 178 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 7: risk associated with lending to mining companies and similar companies 179 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 7: is that there is a risk around whether these what 180 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 7: the future of these businesses are, and whether lending to 181 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 7: them is actually a good commercial decision, because there is 182 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 7: a risk that it in the future that there's a 183 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 7: different government that has different rules, and therefore all of 184 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 7: a sudden, these organizations become uncommercial and therefore there's a 185 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 7: huge risk to the banks associated with that. 186 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: Yes, well, I mean, where do we draw the line 187 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: between banks doing what they want and their social license, 188 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 2: Because let's be honest, our super funds already they're not 189 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: investing in defense companies. So this sort of thing is 190 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: already happening. 191 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 7: Absolutely, and the key WE Saber companies are doing that 192 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 7: because that's what the consumers have said they want. They 193 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 7: want to be able to choose key WE SAB funds 194 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 7: that are investing in what's described as an ethical way, 195 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 7: So people want to be able to choose their investments 196 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 7: in a way that aligns with their ethical belief The 197 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 7: reality is that we want to be able to do 198 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 7: the same thing with our banks, because we want to 199 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 7: bank with a company that is aligned with our ethical 200 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 7: beliefs as well. And as there's a company that is 201 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 7: not lending to fossil fuel companies and that's what we 202 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 7: want to see personally, then that's going to influence who 203 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 7: we choose to bank with. And all of a sudden, 204 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 7: it's removing that choice as the government is not going 205 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 7: to allow banks to not do that. 206 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: Well, wait to see what happens, Claire, Thank you for 207 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 2: getting up with it for us. That is clear math 208 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: use the associate professor at the Massive University Business School. Meanwhile, 209 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: we had a couple of political polls that came out yesterday. 210 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: I saw television New Zealand do when they have a poll, 211 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: they really trumpet it, doesn't they They really go all 212 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: plummet and there's all lots of words when in fact 213 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: there's minor movements. But we'll have a look at these poles. 214 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: Two Poles next with Brigitte Morden. 215 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: The First Word on the News of the Day Early 216 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: Edition with Andrew Dickens, and One Room to Make Your 217 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Property Search and Simple News Talk Nippy. 218 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: It is five twenty two, So Mikey Schuman, the political 219 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: editor of TV ands he was very excited on the 220 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: Telly last night and released the results of a poll 221 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 2: that give a lean to the left block and as 222 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 2: she says or said, spells trouble for the coalition. But 223 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: there was another one as well, the Taxpayer's Union Courier 224 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: poll reflected the same thing. It sees Labor Greens and 225 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 2: Tapatimali able to reach a sixty one seat target. Both 226 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: of the poles do support for the coalition has foremen 227 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: One News has New Zealand first teaching in their parliamentary 228 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 2: seat in the coalition. They're at just five percent the threshold. 229 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: Fifty percent of those polled said the country's going in 230 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 2: the wrong direction. So political commentator Bridget Morton is my 231 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: guest this morning. Come morning to you, Bridget, Good morning. 232 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 2: So are labor pulling people in or are National pushing 233 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: people away? 234 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: I think it's the economy that's making everyone seem a 235 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: little bit depressed about what's going forward. So I think 236 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 4: that's undoubtedly one of the biggest factors, particularly in the 237 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: right track wrong track. I think also for National that 238 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 4: there has been a lot of distracting issues over the 239 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 4: last couple of months. Twenty principles building the major one, 240 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: and they want to be really talking about the economy 241 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: and what they're doing there. 242 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Well they are, because I don't know if you've noticed 243 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: so far this year it's been growth, growth, growth, growth, growth, growth, growth. 244 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: There's been a couple of announcements. Could this be seen 245 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: as some sort of proof that their moves on the 246 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: economy so far in twenty twenty five have not been 247 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: motivating for voters. 248 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: I think you've got to be careful that some of these, 249 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: you know, there's just all these announcements of very very 250 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: new and help perhaps are not flowing through. A lot 251 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 4: of them are also about signularly that they're focusing on 252 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 4: that economic growth passage as opposed to necessarily moves that 253 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 4: are going to affect households. So you know, people are 254 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 4: thinking about how much their mortgage costs, how much it's 255 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 4: costing to get food on the table, and none of 256 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: those announcements are quite touching those things. Yet they're about 257 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 4: getting those economic settings right, So I think you're going 258 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: to see probably more of that household cost of living 259 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 4: message coming through as well. 260 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: Not only that those they're not only very new numbers, 261 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: they're also miles away from the next election, So how 262 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: important are these numbers. 263 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: Well, with polls, it's always about trends, and I think 264 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 4: that's what is more concerning is the fact that they 265 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: actually more voters are heading towards that you know, wrong track, 266 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 4: right track. That's going to be a headline number. I 267 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 4: think looking at whether or not labor conformer government is 268 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 4: probably premature, particularly when you've. 269 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 6: Got to party mold. 270 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: You're making quite radical bottom lines about commissioners with BETO 271 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 4: powers that actually makes at less block coalition that pretty 272 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: impossible at the moment. So it's definitely something about whether 273 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: or not they're actually getting the narrative right. And I think, 274 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 4: as you pointed out, they are going economic growth growth, growth, 275 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 4: and that's what. 276 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 6: They're going to be pushing really harder the next couple 277 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 6: of months. 278 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: Hey Bridget, thank you very much. And you're quite right, 279 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: Mikey Sherman. Just because you've got some software that can 280 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: actually do what a parliament might look like, you don't 281 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: have to start worrying about this two years out from 282 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: the election. That's just my own feeling on that. It 283 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: is five twenty five. It's News Talks MB. 284 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: The Early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by 285 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: NEWSTALKSB News TALKSB. 286 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickins. Good morning, Welcome to the program. Now 287 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 2: it only took nearly twenty years to address, but high 288 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: school rowing teams will no longer be able to have 289 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: year fourteen students and their crews. So these were young 290 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: people in their sixth year of secondary school and of 291 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: course having those guys in they gave their crews an 292 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: advantage because it had an extra year of training and development. 293 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: They're older, bigger, and it's been a bugbear of many 294 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: schools wanting a level playing field, and they've been finding 295 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: this for twenty years. On many of the year fourteens 296 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: were back at school finishing their academic work because their 297 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: good rowers, and they wanted to take advantage of rowing 298 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: scholarships overseas, but they needed to up their academic marks, 299 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: so they went back to school. But their schools there 300 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: still included them in their rep cruise because why not, 301 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: don't look a gift elephant in the mouth. Critics of 302 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: that decision said the problem was not just the young 303 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: adults themselves, the year fourteens, but also all the others 304 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: at the school who missed out on a place in 305 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: the boat because the year fourteens were there. Now, the 306 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: first move to police the practice involved putting age limits 307 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: on rowing crews, but it still saw some year fourteen 308 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: students with birthdays just after the cutoff competing. But while 309 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: they were technically the right age, they still brought an 310 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: advantage of an extra years training. So now finally the 311 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: year fourteens are gone, and that's a good thing. It 312 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: stopped the attitude of schools who believed and win at 313 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: any costs. It's returned fairness in sport, and it was 314 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: good decision making because it showed that those struggling with 315 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: rules on say transgender athletes who've been through puberty, that 316 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: it is actually possible to be fair if you're clear 317 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 2: minded and decisive, and we'll have more on this after 318 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: seven on the Mike Hosking. 319 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: Breakfast Andrew dickens, So. 320 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: Should we be invading the Cook Islands? Nobody said no yet. 321 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: Ninety two ninety two someone said, don't we have one 322 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: of our naval ships permanently based in the Cook Islands? John, 323 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: that's almost funny, But actually that's some more, isn't it. 324 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: Someone else writes about the real risk the Cook Islands 325 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: will be joining the bricks like Indonesia have. They will 326 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: possibly get the Chinese currency as well. If they carried 327 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: out on down this track, New Zealand will be out 328 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: of their league. Just to remind you if you didn't hear, 329 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: David Longe once upon a time suggested that the Sas 330 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: should invade Fiji after the Fiji coup, and now the 331 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: talk that maybe we should be asking our Prime minister 332 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: if he's looking at those sorts of possibilities. Keep your 333 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: texts coming. In ninety two ninety two, on the way 334 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: we're off to Australia, Donald Trump is back with steel tariffs, 335 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: and now Australia is involved in the conversation because they 336 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: have steel, so as you see, these tariffs are inching 337 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: their way slowly closer and closer to New Zealand. So 338 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: we'll talk those tariffs and Australia with Donald Tomayo. We'll 339 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 2: go right around the country and later Nick Leggott on 340 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: this new big Foreign Investor summit that's coming up later 341 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: this year. All on new stalks. 342 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 7: They be. 343 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines. On early edition Andrew Dickens 344 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: and One Room Make Your Property Search Simple News Talks. 345 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: It'd be. 346 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. My name is Andrew Dickins 347 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 2: and for Ryan Bridge. This of course is Brian Adams 348 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: who recently visited the New Zealand playing concerts in christ 349 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: Church and Auckland, and he's just gone to Perth. But 350 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: that concept was canceled because of overflowing sewage caused by 351 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: a blockage of fat, grease and rags and the concept 352 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: venue in Perth. The water authority said the blockage couldn't 353 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: be easily dislodged and made the venues toilets unusable. Front 354 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: Tier Touring said that the cancelation was beyond Brian's control, 355 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: no kidding, and tickets would be refunded automatically. Now I 356 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: mentioned all of this because where I stayed in the 357 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: Corimandel last weekend has a similar problem. There's a sewage 358 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: pumping station. It's going to have to have one of 359 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: those sucking trucks coming in and clearing the tanks out 360 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: because of the fat burg that's formed there. Apparently up 361 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: the hill there's some households who have been flushing sanitary 362 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: podacs and wet wipes and handytowers and whatever they want 363 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: down the loo and they've all congealed with all the 364 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 2: fat and gunk that comes out of a human body 365 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: to form what they calls a fat burg, and that's 366 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: stuffed up the whole system. So ratepayer's money is being 367 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: used to suck out the gunk. God knows where they're 368 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: going to put it. And I just mentioned this because 369 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: this is a warning to us all be careful of 370 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: what you've flushed down the toilet, because it doesn't just 371 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: magically disappear. It's twenty two to six. Andrew dickens, It's 372 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: time to go around the country. Calum Proctor from Dunedin, 373 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: Hello morning, Andrew. Tell me about the Queenstown property market. 374 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 8: Well, it's on the rise as Auckland goes backwards Auckland's 375 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 8: national share of a five million dollar plus property sales 376 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 8: has dipped by fourteen percent in the last year alone. Meanwhile, 377 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 8: Queenstown's have surged by more than twenty percent in the 378 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 8: same period. Patterson Luxury real Estate has looked at these 379 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 8: figures and says there's a growing trend of people now 380 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 8: ditching Auckland for the slower paced lifestyle of places like Queenstown. 381 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 8: They say at least four hundred and fifty million dollars 382 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 8: worth of luxury Queenstown properties have been sold since twenty twenty, 383 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 8: and near third of that in the last year alone. 384 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: Me, every time I've been to Queenstown, I have to 385 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: say it's pretty full on. It's not that relaxing. So 386 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: how's Dinetians where their Otagos where they callum. 387 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 8: Pretty good on the whole for toned and fine but 388 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 8: cloudy periods. The high eighteen today? 389 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: Good Ania Claire Shore where it joins me from Croatia 390 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: Tella Claire. 391 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 5: Good morning. 392 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: So we've got what plastic being buried and burnt on 393 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: Canterbury farms. 394 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, now there's some new measures to try to stop 395 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 9: that from happening. This is particularly focused around the hood 396 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 9: Anui area for now, but there is hope this will 397 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 9: be a service that will expand nationwide. It's the brain 398 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 9: work of a company called Egg Recovery. They've launched to 399 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 9: this pilot program in Houdunui which will allow farmers and 400 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 9: growers to recycle any used farm plastic. There's a drop 401 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 9: off service running twice weekly at the Wipe at a 402 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 9: wine house right through until mid March. It's hoped that 403 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 9: the data collected from this farm waste that they drop 404 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 9: in will help in developing a long term sustainable solution 405 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 9: for farmers. Now spokesperson Tony Wilson says ad Recovery is 406 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 9: receiving dozens of calls from farmers weekly asking for help 407 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 9: with this waste. He says many are struggling to deal 408 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 9: with their plastic consumption and they want to show overseas 409 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 9: markets their practices are sustainable. 410 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: Tell me about Canterbury's weather. 411 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 9: While it's miserable today, rain turning a bit lighter later 412 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 9: this morning, then clearing to find spouse for the afternoon 413 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 9: light winds and. 414 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: Eighteen Max tol joins us now from Wellington. Hellimax. 415 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 6: Good morning. 416 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: So this taxpayer courier poll also confirms some negative perceptions 417 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: of Wellington. 418 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 10: Yeah, so it's this one isn't Taxpayers, It is curier 419 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 10: though commissioned by a campaign group that was set up 420 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 10: recently called Better Wellington, essentially asked one thousand people in 421 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 10: the capital for their opinions on the state of the 422 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 10: city in the lead up for the election the local election. 423 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 10: A thousand people, by the way, is impressive. It tends 424 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 10: to be the number of respondents in most political polling 425 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 10: Taxpayers Union, for instance, one News variant. It shows Wellingtonians 426 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 10: want the City Council to overwhelmingly stick to the basics 427 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 10: i e. Water also overwhelmingly only fifteen percent I think 428 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 10: the City Council performed well last year. A majority opposed 429 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 10: the Golden Mile plan thirty seven percent four twenty again sorry, 430 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 10: thirty seven percent oppose it, only twenty percent supported. Only 431 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 10: eleven percent think social housing should be the city Council's responsibility. 432 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 10: That's been an issue in the spotlight I suppose in 433 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 10: the Capitol recently. And in terms of the mayor, forty 434 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 10: six percent rates Tori Fino's leadership is poor or very poor. 435 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 10: Only seventeen percent rated as good or very good, which 436 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 10: will spell a bit of trouble for her in the 437 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 10: lead up to October. 438 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure me if I know, is having a wonderful 439 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: morning this morning hearing all that news. How's your weather? Cloudy, 440 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: little drizzly this morning? Nineteen the high Central nev A 441 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: written man who joins us now from Walkandalla and good morning. 442 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: So the mayor has taken a swipe at all can 443 00:22:59,160 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: Transport again? 444 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 5: Yes, what he's calling, as we all know, Cone Central, 445 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 5: Cone City. So look what's happened is at Wayne Brown? 446 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 5: He's spposted this video on social media and in that 447 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 5: video he's questioning all the road works that have been 448 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 5: carried out. This is on Victoria Street West, right outside Skytower. 449 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 5: In the video, he's saying, look, can't quite work out 450 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 5: what's been built over one of the road's lanes. He says, 451 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 5: what was once this really lovely, nice clean two lane 452 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 5: road doesn't work like that now and he's questioning whether 453 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 5: this new construction is for a bus cyclist or walkers. 454 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 5: You know what is going on now? You remember late 455 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 5: last year Andrew that you know, Brown stripped Aukland Transport's 456 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 5: right to make decisions. That was about the policy and 457 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 5: or the Planning and Strategy, so At says, look, this 458 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 5: is an ongoing project to extend the Victoria Street cycleway 459 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 5: as it was agreed by the Auckland Council. 460 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 2: It's not that's wrong. Oh no, it's a park. The 461 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: plan's been out forever. It's a sort of a parky 462 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: plasari thing with the ability to take your scooters and 463 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: your cycles up there, or to be a pedestrian. But 464 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: the plan is public knowledge. 465 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: There's so many roadworks going on, I just keep driving. 466 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 5: Actually I just go, oh, here's another one. One of 467 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: millions here in Auckland. 468 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: CBD aka house Orkan's weather mainly find. 469 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 5: Just a few showers in the afternoon, possibly heavy sundry 470 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 5: south of the city. Muggy, wasn't it muggy yesterday? Twenty 471 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 5: six is the high here today in Auckland. 472 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: And I thank you so much. We're off to Australia 473 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: very shortly with Donna to Mayo. We've got Tasmanian bushfires happenings. 474 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that. I talked about fatburgs just now. 475 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 2: Text through the fat burg that caused Brian Adams show cancelation. 476 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: It's an increasing risk and taxpayer costs for people flashing 477 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: wet wipes. They are mostly synthetics. They are plastic now 478 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: and another single use plastic that should be banned. I'm 479 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: surprised that text wasn't all in caps. It is seventeen to. 480 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: Six International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of 481 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business. 482 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: Yes, goodbody, I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridget. Is fourteen 483 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: to six and we're off to Australia and good morning Donna. 484 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 11: To Moyo, good morning to you. 485 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: So Tariff Talk comes to Australia with your Prime Minister 486 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 2: to talk to Donald about steel. 487 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 11: Yes, mister Albinizsi, our PM is planning a chat with Trump. 488 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 11: He wants to make that case for fee free, sorry 489 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 11: free and fair trade with America. Now that we know that, 490 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 11: President Trump says he's going to impose his tariffs on 491 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 11: all steel and aluminium imports into the US. Now this 492 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 11: is on top of existing metal duties that we know of, 493 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 11: and he says that that's going to count for everybody. 494 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 11: Everybody's facing this twenty five percent tariff. So the Albanese 495 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 11: government has been preparing for such a decision, it says, 496 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 11: and it's been reported that attempts on how to secure 497 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 11: these tariff exemptions have been developed behind the scenes. We 498 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 11: know that Richard Miles, who is our Defense Minister, was 499 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 11: in the US on the weekend and he has been 500 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 11: meeting with senior Trump officials, but no word on that yet. Meantime, 501 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 11: the PM says he does have an upcoming phone call. 502 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 11: We're not exactly sure when that is, but he's going 503 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 11: to bring up tariffs, so we have to just wor 504 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 11: you see what happens there after that little chin wag. 505 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 2: All right, just now, you've got some big bushfires in Tasmania. 506 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 11: Yes many many, in fact, about sixteen blazers are raging 507 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 11: across Tasmania's remote west. But we know that help is 508 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 11: on its way and Aircraft Operations Manager is coming from 509 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 11: New Zealand to help with the fire fighting efforts, so 510 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 11: thank you very much for that. But lightning strikes that 511 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 11: started these bushfires in western Tasmania. It's about a week ago. 512 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 11: They're still raging. There's hundreds of people there trying to 513 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 11: get on top of it, and we know that there's 514 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 11: also specialists from New South Wales and Queensland heading down. 515 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 11: But unfortunately Tasy's going to have some searing heat, some 516 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 11: very very hot weather on its way at least for 517 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 11: tomorrow and Thursday. But thankfully the cold front is due 518 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 11: late Thursday, so hopefully that will help. 519 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: And have we offered help. 520 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 11: Yes, yes, someone from New Zealand is coming. An aircraft 521 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 11: operations manager apparently is on their way. Fature, we have 522 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 11: to say thank you very much for helping us with 523 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 11: our fire fighting efforts. 524 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: Oh it's nothing, it's okay, thank you, Donald Tomay. It 525 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 2: is now twelve minutes to six seconds. So the Prime 526 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: Minister means business and we know this because he says 527 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: it every time he talks growth. Growth, growth, growth, growth, 528 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: growth growth. His latest announcement about growth is a two 529 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: day summit to entice interest in New Zealand projects. One 530 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: hundred world high profile investors, business leaders and construction companies 531 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: are expected to visit next month. Here's the PM. 532 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 5: We want people from all corners of the globe to 533 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 5: know that there's now a culture of saying yes in 534 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 5: New Zealand, yes to investment, yes to innovation, and yes 535 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 5: to getting stuff done. 536 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 2: So Infrastructure New Zealand CEO Nick Legget joins me this morning, 537 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: Good morning to your neck Hello, have you been invited? 538 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 6: I told to climb the target at the target audience here. 539 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: Well, you're there to talk. I thought that your whole 540 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: job was to talk up New Zealand and infrastructure. And 541 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: surely as infrastructure in New Zealand, you want some of 542 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: these overseas investors coming in to help you out. 543 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 6: Well, I think what's important is that this is the 544 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 6: kind of event that shows that New Zealand is open 545 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 6: to business and that we are welcoming of people who 546 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 6: can help us build more infrastructure. Infrastructure, as we often 547 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 6: talk about Andrew, is an enabler to not just economic 548 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 6: growth but also social progress. We've got a big deficit 549 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 6: in this country. We know we need more transport infrastructure, 550 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 6: we need schools, hospitals and also if you think about water, 551 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 6: there's a massive gaping hole there as well. So across 552 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 6: the board we need to invest. And when you think 553 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 6: about projects that we talk about here, the missing link 554 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 6: is often the funding. Where is the money coming from? 555 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 6: And we've had we've gotten into this habit of openly 556 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 6: play and putting together business cases, but the money sort 557 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 6: of side of thing is what kills it. And Auckland 558 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 6: light Rail is a good example, and if you think 559 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: about it, let's get well into moving. But we talk 560 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 6: big and we don't deliver and that has to change. 561 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 6: And so I think the Prime Minister's got it right 562 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 6: in terms of actually who are the people that can 563 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: help inject some funding but also bring some other expertise 564 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 6: so we do infrastructure better and we know we have 565 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 6: a new culture of not just funding but actually building. 566 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: That's why I asked you are you going? Do we 567 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: need to know who's coming to figure out how effective 568 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: this summit might be, because if we're inviting the wrong people, 569 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: if the wrong people are not coming, the right people 570 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 2: are not coming, then it's then it's just virtue signaling. 571 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think that it's about it's a 572 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 6: new habit that we have to get into. Right, It's 573 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 6: not all going to be fixed in one two day summer. 574 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 6: But what we need to know, I think more importantly 575 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 6: is do we have projects that are ready to be 576 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 6: funded and built and once people actually show interest in 577 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 6: New Zealand, are the policy settings right? And so I 578 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 6: think there's still work to do there and I think 579 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 6: that what we'd be more interested in is that something 580 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 6: comes out of the summer and that there's an ongoing 581 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 6: interest in the country, not just for two days in March, 582 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 6: but next year, in five years time, so we can 583 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 6: really build that effective pipeline that we know we need 584 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 6: to build. We get the efficiencies out of actually having 585 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 6: more than one project on the garden and that ongoing pipeline, 586 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 6: because that's the best way for New Zealand to overcome 587 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 6: all the challenges it's got. We don't build infrastructure well here, 588 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 6: we don't line the funding up, we don't line the 589 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 6: projects up. There's also I want to make this really clear, 590 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 6: it's not just about foreign direct investment. There is capital 591 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 6: in New Zealand that is keen to invest. If you 592 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 6: think key we Saver ew Wee Marty, there are a 593 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 6: whole lot of opportunities and we've got to be open 594 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 6: to all of them if we're going to get out 595 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 6: infrastructure builds done better. 596 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 2: Nick Leggett, I thank you for your time. Nick Legget 597 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: is the CEO of Infrastructure New Zealand. And. Yes, we 598 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: can invite the people, but do we have the projects 599 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: ready to go? Do we have the infrastructure ready to go? 600 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 2: Do we have the plans that we can say to 601 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 2: these people, this is what we're thinking about do you 602 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: want to be part of it? And that's all on 603 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: the government, is it not? At the moment it is anyway, 604 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: it is our seven minutes to Sex. It's news talk said. 605 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: B on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition 606 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property Search 607 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: Simple Youth Talks. 608 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: B five to six. Haven't really talked about the super Bowl. 609 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: It was over by halftime. But I've got a text 610 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 2: here that says the most notable thing about the Super 611 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 2: Bowl is that every year the halftime show is rubbish. 612 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: It's amazing how they do it. I can tell you 613 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: how they do it. They've sold it off to Apple Music, 614 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: and Apple Music then gets the guys who sell records. 615 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: But that's not necessarily what the people in the stands 616 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 2: and the people on the telly want to hear. The 617 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 2: good old days was the good old days was Prince 618 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: Lately it's been who I mean. I didn't know a 619 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: single thing about Kendrick la Marle Well. I do know 620 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar, but it's not really a halftime show. May 621 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: casking Yeah morning. 622 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 12: Although having said that, having watched the whole thing yesterday, 623 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 12: the game was over by halftime, so you were sort 624 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 12: of believed that there was something coming that was because 625 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 12: it was a waste. 626 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 2: It was waste of time. And then at the end 627 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: they started throwing bombs and the bombs actually landed, and 628 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 2: you go, well, at least that's entertaining. 629 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's true, and the national anthem was good as well, 630 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 12: and so as a spectacle, it was a It was 631 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 12: an unfortunate normally these games not to bore everyone who 632 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 12: doesn't watch the NFL, but normally these games. The wonderful 633 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 12: thing about American football is that it's become extremely competitive, 634 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 12: like very tight. It's it's most unusual to see what 635 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 12: happened yesterday, highly unusual for a blowout like that. And 636 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 12: you saw one of the greatest players in the history 637 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 12: of the game in Patrick Mahomes's panic and just completely 638 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 12: and utterly rattled and had no idea what he was doing. 639 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 12: So that was signaling and the young Eagles coach you 640 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 12: were just reanim so happy for him as well. 641 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: He's had a lot of grief. 642 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 12: There were people I think it was two years ago, 643 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 12: so they won a couple of years ago, and so 644 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 12: they've always been but they used to be useless, like 645 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 12: they were a really useless site and they've turned it around. 646 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 12: And he was controversial, and he's been controversial with the 647 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 12: fans and so he's you know, he's set for life. 648 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 6: Now. 649 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: They should in New Zealand invade the Cook Islands. 650 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 12: I didn't know where that came from. Houson wrote a PCs. 651 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 12: I just thought apparently long he. 652 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 2: Suggested to the sas back during the Fijian coup and 653 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: they went, well, you know, do we care enough? I mean, honestly, 654 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: do we care enough? 655 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 12: I mean, what if he comes back. I'll talk to 656 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 12: Prime Minister about this this morning. What if he comes back? 657 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 12: Brown comes back and it's actually just a we'll build 658 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 12: a wharf, we'll give you some new water systems, and 659 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 12: we're good guys. There's nothing to do. 660 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 2: With is that a wharf or is that a naval Well? 661 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm saying? 662 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 12: But what if it's just you know, support and help 663 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 12: and stuff like that, and this is the way of 664 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 12: the future, and what really are we going to do 665 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 12: about any of these countries? 666 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 2: Christopher Luxem Christopher Luxeon after seven thirty very good. I'm 667 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: Andrew Dickins. I won't be back for the rest of 668 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 2: the week. Francisca is doing it. I'll be doing drive. 669 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 2: Thanks producer Kenzie, Thank you for your attendance today, Have 670 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: a great day. 671 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 672 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: to News Talks at B from five am weekdays, or 673 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.