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Speaker 1: The government's telling kiwis in the Middle East to register

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Speaker 1: on safe travel and preparation of evacuation. Two Defense Force

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Speaker 1: aircraft will be leaving New Zealand in the coming days

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Speaker 1: to help those Kiwis and Judith Collins is the defenseman

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Speaker 1: to stand with us. Hi, Judith oh Hid, how many

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Speaker 1: Keywis do you think you're going to have to move?

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Speaker 2: Well, we know that there are around three thousand who

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Speaker 2: have registered on safe travel, which is obviously the Minister

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Speaker 2: of Foreign Affairs or in FATS website, but we think

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Speaker 2: that there are probably thousands more, so that the movement

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Speaker 2: will be out of the danger zone into another country

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Speaker 2: relatively close by that is not in danger at the moment.

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Speaker 2: It won't be all the way back here. Yep. We

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Speaker 2: can't bring people all the way back here now.

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Speaker 1: Could you even move from one place to a nearby

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Speaker 1: place three thousand people?

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Speaker 2: Well, if they want to go, we would simply have

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Speaker 2: to make it happen, but we would have to obviously

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Speaker 2: do it in relays and we have to deal with

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Speaker 2: it that way. I think you'll find quite a lot

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Speaker 2: of people will not want to move because they're based

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Speaker 2: now in the Middle East, and for those who do

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Speaker 2: we are making this available now?

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Speaker 1: How long are we preparing as a country for this

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Speaker 1: particular war that's going on at the moment to last.

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Speaker 2: Well, we don't know how long it's going to last, Heather.

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Speaker 2: We haven't been involved in the build up to it,

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Speaker 2: we're not involved in the discussions around it, we're not

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Speaker 2: involved in supplying anything for it. What we are thinking

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Speaker 2: about though, is that for New Zealanders who do want

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Speaker 2: to leave, that's we want to make sure we can

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Speaker 2: help them to do that if that's possible without unduly

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Speaker 2: putting our own defense people at an extreme harm's way.

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Speaker 2: So and also in fact people too, I shouldn't forget them.

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Speaker 2: But there's also the fact that we're obviously aware of

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Speaker 2: the Straits of her May almost and how Iran is

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Speaker 2: now sending missiles off to neighboring countries. So we're very

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Speaker 2: aware of these issues. We've dealt with it before with

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Speaker 2: the Houthis who were part of the funded out of

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Speaker 2: Iran attacks on ships going through the Red Sea. So

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Speaker 2: we've dealt with some unrest over the years. But we're

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Speaker 2: not sure how long it's going to go on for Are.

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Speaker 1: We going to put any equipment or people into this war.

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Speaker 2: I think we need to be very realistic here, Heather.

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Speaker 2: We're number one, a hell of a long way away,

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Speaker 2: but number two you can see the equipment that's going

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Speaker 2: on being used. Now, what are we going to send, well,

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Speaker 2: a trainer plane or hercules to do what? We can

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Speaker 2: send a Hercules to go and bring people out. But

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Speaker 2: let's be real here. It's not a war that we

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Speaker 2: were part of the decision making on, and it's not

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Speaker 2: a war where we've been asked to do anything at all.

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Speaker 1: OK, thanks very much, look after yourself, Judith Collins, Defense Minister.

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