1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Morning to you, Morning to you, Mike. Now, consumer confidence 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: here didn't look too good. No, it's pretty muted. Really. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: This is the A and Z Roy Morgan consumer Confidence 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: and next that was down four points to ninety three 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: point two in March. That declined across nearly all components, 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: so the report was actually told a bit of a slog. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: You've got a net sixteen percent of households disagree that's 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: a good time to buy a major household item, and 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty good in the indicative retail sentiment. But interesting 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: it went up for people with mortgages, so that's I 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: guess about people coming off their lower rates. Perceptions of 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: confidentcial situations that fell as well, but a net sixteen 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: percent expect to be better off for this time next year, 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: so it was a positive thing perceptions going on the 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: economic outlook and twelve months time that eased as well, 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: though house price inflation and expectations that lifted slightly three 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: point four percent. The other interesting thing I think was 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: inflation expectations generally is that rose point two percentage points 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: to four point two percent, so that's a small increase. 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: It's actually the first time since June last year, and 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: it's been above four percent, so quite possibly suppose all 22 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: this talk around tariffs is having an impact on the 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: situation of who don't know how that's all going to 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: play it for us, but I brought you in. Consumes 25 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: seem pretty guarded, although some retails are telling a slightly 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: different story. So also on Friday we had helen Stein Glessons. 27 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: They are out with numbers for half a year and 28 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: they see that there's half your sales are up seven 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: point seven percent to two hundred and forty million, and 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: have to text it ticked up to twenty one million 31 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: margins of these debits I suppo. It's a bit like 32 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: seeing with other retailers and they having to discount to 33 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: get more shop through the door. But another interesting thing 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: was the contrast between what's happening across the Tasman and 35 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: so you look at sales for Glessons in Australia are 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: up sixteen percent, sales for lessons in New Zealand were 37 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: up just zero point two percent. Of a bit of divergence. 38 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: Counts do on sales are pretty flat. So just in 39 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: terms of an update, they said group sales the first 40 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: seven weeks five point four percent. It had the same 41 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: time last year, but margins remain under pressure, so they 42 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: having to discount still. And I suppose it goes all 43 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: the sales signs just seen up there, but she is 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: up slightly and up thirty percent over the past year. Okay, 45 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: state side two point eight, wasn't it? Yeah, that's right. 46 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: It's inflation expectations are a ticking up. If we firstly 47 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: look at the University of Michigan survey, so consumer sentiment 48 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: came in at fifty seven, but you look at long 49 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: term inflation expectations that they searched him three point five 50 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: percent and February to four point one percent of March. 51 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: The interesting thinging here was you've got going up amongst Unindependents, 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: but also monks, Republicans, even Trump supporters are also appreciate 53 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: the inflationary implications of what he's doing. So if you 54 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: look at expectations, Mike, they might actually not been this 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: high since early nineteen ninety three. And in terms of yeah, 56 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: you're talking about the two point eight percent read that's 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: on the core personal consumption expensures pricing excepts the Fed's 58 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: preferred inflation gage. It was also our fight and that 59 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: was also higher than fourcasts up point four percent for 60 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: the month. This is just all going to stoke concerns 61 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: about you know, where inflation is go On the bright side, 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: consumer spinning, that's still so that accelerated point four percent 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: for the month, and that's helped by rising personal incomes. 64 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: Although it does seem like the US they might be betting 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: down the hatches a little bit. So you look at 66 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: the personal savings rate that increase to four point six percent, 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: and it's also the high since June last year. So 68 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: I suppose if inflation expectations picking up, inflation actual inflation 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: read quite high, you probably think the feed is going 70 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: to continue to adopt a wait and see approach. Yeah, 71 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: And as far as American retailers concerned, what do we 72 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: read into Lulu Lemon? Is that general or a specific story? Ah, 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: good old Lemon. No, it's really sort of showing as 74 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 1: well that the yeah, the consumer is still still resilient 75 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: for now, but yeah, that the expectations are not so great. 76 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: So Lulu Lemony as they are actually down fifteen percent 77 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: on Friday, so the actual numbers weren't too bad. So 78 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: yoga pants are flying out the door. In the fourth quarter, 79 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: revenues up by four and a million to three point 80 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: six billion, needing come up twelve percent. But they said 81 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: that in terms of the current quarter, they expect sales 82 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: to be two point three billions. It's a massive Margins 83 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: also set to fall as well. Traffic's down, and you 84 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: look at intioningly comparable sales in the America's were flat. 85 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: They are up twenty percent internationally, so you know, Tom 86 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Waltelvi's policies to make America greatagain actually are having the 87 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: reverse effect. Actually did a survey as well, and they 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: just found that consumers are spinning less due to economic 89 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: inflation concerns and that is something that appears to be 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: affecting a lot of retailers, and so consumers appear to 91 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: be training down. So it could be a turent few 92 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: months a year for some retailers. Okay, numbers please, Yeah, 93 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: you're still got the DOWT that was down one point 94 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: seven percent four one five eight three S and P 95 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: five hundred was down two percent. Na's deck down two 96 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: point seven percent, So tech stocks out of favor for 97 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: two one hundred down point one percent, Nicke down one 98 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: point eight percent, ASEX two hundred up point two percent, 99 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: seven nine eighty two. Ins X fifty were a down 100 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: point one five percent, twelve to eight seven, gold up 101 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: twenty eight dollars threeenty eighty five and outsets a new 102 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: record high a billion all down fifty six cents, six 103 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: nine spot thirty six. Just in the currencies here against 104 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: the US dollar there was down point four percent fifty 105 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: seven point two down slightly against Bussie ninety point nine down. 106 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Also against the British pound forty four point two. Japanese 107 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: the end we're getting eighty five point seven that was 108 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: down one point two percent. I'm just looking ahead to 109 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: this week locally, We've got business confidence, we've got building permits, 110 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: we're gon another dairy auction, I'm shore RBA rate decision, 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: got us non fun payils and of course it is 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: the big one April second Liberation Day, sweeping tariffs that 113 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: we're coming in. Let's see what form you don't you make? 114 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: Good to catch up, Greg Smith, Devin Funds Management. For 115 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. 116 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 117 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio