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Speaker 1: There is yet another call for the government to tackle

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Speaker 1: obesity rates, and this time from the Helen Clark Foundation. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Helen Clark Foundations released a report today which reckons

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Speaker 1: more than a third of kew WE adults are too fat,

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Speaker 1: and they reckon the way to solve this is to

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Speaker 1: shift the conversation quote from the individual to the wider

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Speaker 1: food environment we're exposed to every day now. Dave Latally

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Speaker 1: is a community leader and the founder of the BBM

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Speaker 1: Motivation Program.

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Speaker 2: Dave, Hello, Hey have they how's it going?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very well. Thank you. Do you agree with them?

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Speaker 1: This is no longer an individual problem. It is now

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Speaker 1: a government problem.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's something that I've been saying for years.

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Speaker 2: You know, I keep banging on about this. It's, you know,

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Speaker 2: a choice. It implies equal starting points, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of the environments that especially the areas that we're serving,

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Speaker 2: there's no equity there. We're surrounded by every single bad

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Speaker 2: choice that's available to us. It just makes it a

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Speaker 2: lot harder. But you know, it's why around education, what

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Speaker 2: we do is what needs to happen. It's government policy

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Speaker 2: and also community working together.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I mean tell me something, do people regardless

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Speaker 1: of where you come from, what environment you're in.

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Speaker 2: Stuff.

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Speaker 1: Do we not all know already that if you put

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Speaker 1: KFC in your mouth, you're going to get fat, but

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Speaker 1: if you put a broccoli in your mouth, you're going

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Speaker 1: to be healthy?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think I think most people would know that.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, there's there's heather.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of knowledge that's not being passed down

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Speaker 2: to children anymore. You know it. It's not just people

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Speaker 2: who are just too lazy, but it's people who are

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Speaker 2: working multiple jobs trying to keep the lights on in.

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Speaker 1: That the problem though, Dave, I mean because we learn

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Speaker 1: about the food, we learn about the food triangle at

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Speaker 1: school right like year gosh eight or nine or something

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Speaker 1: like that. Isn't the truth that when you are wealthy,

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Speaker 1: you've got a lot more time so you can make

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Speaker 1: yourself a nice stir fry for yourself and the family.

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Speaker 1: But if you're poor, you don't have as much time.

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Speaker 1: You're traveling more, you're working longer hours to make ends meet.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit more chaotic, so you rely on

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Speaker 1: takeaways hundred percent. How do we get around there?

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Speaker 2: Poor? You're not only you're poor, you're time poor.

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Speaker 1: That's the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: We've helped kids that you know, there's mum reached out

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Speaker 2: to me late one night, just finished work one in

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Speaker 2: the morning, reached out on Facebook. I happened to be awake,

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Speaker 2: asking me to help her fifteen year old son who

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Speaker 2: weighs two hundred and thirty kilos. Sure, they're the ones

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Speaker 2: doing the cooking for the family because the parents aren't there,

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Speaker 2: they're working. So it's just I mean, it's a massive problem.

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Speaker 2: But what we've got to do is, I think, is

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Speaker 2: these these companies, these sugar companies and these fast food

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Speaker 2: companies need to be you know, the most profitable places

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Speaker 2: are all in the poorest areas. I think then they

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Speaker 2: should be made to good days in these communities.

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Speaker 1: But then if the problem is that people are time

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Speaker 1: poor so they don't have the time to go to

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Speaker 1: the supermarket and buy the good food and then cook

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Speaker 1: the good food, then you know, putting a sugar tax

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Speaker 1: on is only going to make their bills more expensive.

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Speaker 1: Limiting advertising is not going to change anything. How do

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Speaker 1: we how do we actually help people then to get

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Speaker 1: the healthy food into their days when their days are

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Speaker 1: too full.

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Speaker 2: Invest in community programs much like ours where we've seen

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Speaker 2: the results. I mean with that kid, he lost thirty

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Speaker 2: kilos to.

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Speaker 1: Us, how did you do it?

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Speaker 2: Educated him him and his brother and his sisters. We

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Speaker 2: educate and how to cook healthy on a budget, how

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Speaker 2: to shop healthy in a budget. They've done the cooking.

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Speaker 2: That's how you break cycles. Now it's not it's not

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Speaker 2: an immediate fix. This is but we can't. We can't

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Speaker 2: look at the short term. This is long term issues.

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Speaker 2: We've got to look at so that things are better

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Speaker 2: for our grandchildren.

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Speaker 1: So so in that case, they actually did have people,

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Speaker 1: the kids in the house, who had a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time. But the problem is the kids didn't know

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Speaker 1: what to do.

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Speaker 2: So you start in schools. It's just investing in programs

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Speaker 2: that work alongside, you know, like just I know, when's

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Speaker 2: the last time he drove through Mayota Town Center or

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Speaker 2: Tata it is it's a fast it's a health food

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Speaker 2: gets at the fastest swamp. It's a disgrace. So it's

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Speaker 2: a lot different than driving through or where I see

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Speaker 2: you sometimes a.

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Speaker 1: Ponds of b Well what if we got on ponsib

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Speaker 1: We've got one one KFC on pons and be drag

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Speaker 1: and that's today. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a fair

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Speaker 1: point that you may. Hey, listen, Dave on another subject, though,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's going to take off is the

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Speaker 1: idea that maybe we start giving people ozimpic jabs because

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Speaker 1: you know it's expensive, but it's a hell of a

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Speaker 1: lot lot less expensive than dealing with really really fat

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Speaker 1: people in the health system. What do you reckon.

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Speaker 2: I've seen, I've met people that it works. I'm look

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Speaker 2: at still it's still out for me. Look, I still

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Speaker 2: think those options, it's like the opic gatric bypass. Those

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Speaker 2: are options, but they shouldn't be the main option or

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Speaker 2: the only option, because they don't break cycles, they don't

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Speaker 2: educate the children. That's what we've got to do here

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Speaker 2: for long term results. I mean, there was an obesity clinic.

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Speaker 2: The problem with the system is they always invest in

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Speaker 2: top down, never bottom up. They invested a few million

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Speaker 2: dollars in a two year pilot in obesity clinic to

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Speaker 2: give people optly fast to get them skinny enough to

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Speaker 2: get the operation, but they still might not get the

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Speaker 2: operation because they either can't afford it or they might

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Speaker 2: not get funded it. Where the program like ours from

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Speaker 2: the Couch gets two hundred and sixteen thousand, like this

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Speaker 2: is where they always go wrong. They always look at

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Speaker 2: it from the top down, never bottom up.

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Speaker 1: Dave Listen, thanks for talking to us. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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