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Speaker 2: Hello, We're on the front foot. Well, the New Zealand
Speaker 2: cricket team, the black Caps probably weren't on the front foot.
Speaker 2: A limp batting display against Banglavik settled the ode I
Speaker 2: series in the heats of Cheta Graham used to be
Speaker 2: known as Chittagong, which was a hell of a lot easy
Speaker 2: to say. Was anything meaningful achieved from that one day series.
Speaker 2: Heap and Boyle continue to impress in Sri Lanka with
Speaker 2: the a's will any new faces make the fifteen man
Speaker 2: squad for England and the leaky rumor SI says that
Speaker 2: former paceballer Jeff Allett is likely to get the CEO's
Speaker 2: job at New Zealand Cricket. If it's true, is it
Speaker 2: a good option? I don't know. The interesting the names
Speaker 2: I've heard, Peter Holland and Jeremy Coney will us again
Speaker 2: on the front foot lead Jamon, Jeff Allett and Rayleian Castle.
Speaker 2: Well now Rallian Castle's back with New Zealand Sports signed
Speaker 2: or twenty twenty nine. Jerry, So, I guess it's between
Speaker 2: Allott and Jamon.
Speaker 4: I think Jamon's pulled out too, hasn't he wadds. I
Speaker 4: thought I saw something somewhere to say that at least
Speaker 4: they're both cricketers former cricketers.
Speaker 3: That's a bonus.
Speaker 4: I think you need to know the game intimately. And
Speaker 4: I think also uh and the fans. I think you
Speaker 4: need to to be That's one of the main roles,
Speaker 4: isn't it. Most she'll know that so that they they've
Speaker 4: got to be aware the board.
Speaker 3: He spoke to me last night or when he.
Speaker 4: Had just seen seeds at the favorite watering hole and it.
Speaker 5: Was the Cambridge Terrorist Community Center.
Speaker 4: Jerry, Yes, okay, yeah, and uh and and and you
Speaker 4: really I think we we did mention at some point
Speaker 4: about Allott and Jimon and also the role of New
Speaker 4: Zealand cricket and the board.
Speaker 5: And and and and part of this was was triggered
Speaker 5: by some of the correspondents that Brian had has has
Speaker 5: received from from listeners to to our to our meanderings
Speaker 5: on on the on the wireless, so to speak. That
Speaker 5: I and and and what got me is particularly with
Speaker 5: our previous conversation that we'd had with respect to decisions
Speaker 5: concerning the T twenty and it came to me thinking about, well, actually,
Speaker 5: what do the board members owe duties do they owe
Speaker 5: to the cricket community. And the cricket community is fans,
Speaker 5: the people. It's not sectional interests such as players only.
Speaker 5: It's the broader community, if you will. And I just
Speaker 5: wonder whether, in fact, I would like for them to
Speaker 5: explain to us how they believe that they are meeting
Speaker 5: the obligations in terms of the duties they owe to
Speaker 5: the community for the greater good of the sport here
Speaker 5: and not just to line some pockets of some people,
Speaker 5: which then brings you back squarely to the role of
Speaker 5: the CEO in order to implement the requirements of the board.
Speaker 5: And clearly there was a clash which caused the previous
Speaker 5: CEO to leave. I think we still have and I
Speaker 5: would posit the view that anyone who takes on that
Speaker 5: role as a CEO is in for a very tough
Speaker 5: and challenging year or two because cash is short. There
Speaker 5: may be cash flying for the T twenty, but that's
Speaker 5: not for the New Zealand Cricket necessarily, so the demands
Speaker 5: will continue. So I wish that person well. And Jeff
Speaker 5: seems to be a pretty sensible person.
Speaker 2: Yeah indeed, and he was on the board for a
Speaker 2: considerable period of time. I only concern, of course, is
Speaker 2: that that board has become rather negative to some extent,
Speaker 2: or has received negative press from many quarters. And their
Speaker 2: ability to spend money and raise money is important, I suppose.
Speaker 2: But their whole job is the administration of the game,
Speaker 2: as you say, most not just T twenty competitions and
Speaker 2: international players. It's the guy that plays down at Cornwall
Speaker 2: Park or Nenville Park or Hagley Park and christ Church
Speaker 2: or even in the outlying reaches of New Zealand. Their
Speaker 2: responsibility is the administration of the game.
Speaker 4: YEP, community cricket, and that's where the future players come from.
Speaker 4: They have an obligation to try and arrange various things
Speaker 4: so that anybody who wants to enjoy the game in
Speaker 4: New Zealand has the opportunity to do so, and so
Speaker 4: in an organized way. It's not playing on the beach necessarily,
Speaker 4: but to have structured kind of competitions throughout a potential
Speaker 4: players playing Korea. So that's that's their job, and to
Speaker 4: keep people interested in the game generally and to be
Speaker 4: able to put it in front of them. So I
Speaker 4: don't I don't have any problem with what either of
Speaker 4: you two are saying there about that.
Speaker 3: There's a slight concern in the back of my mind.
Speaker 4: Has Jeff All has ever been involved in some business
Speaker 4: kind of operations with say, people like Fleming or you know,
Speaker 4: people who have worked with India particularly. I'm just a
Speaker 4: wee bit concerned that there might be an ongoing relationship
Speaker 4: between those two when he's going to have to if
Speaker 4: he's going to be the CEO, has to make decisions
Speaker 4: outside of that and consider exactly what Moose has just
Speaker 4: been talking about and still have a past and a
Speaker 4: history with some of the players who are pushing that
Speaker 4: particular option. That's my just a little question mark in
Speaker 4: the back of my mind because I've heard those names
Speaker 4: together a number of times.
Speaker 3: In business terms.
Speaker 5: I believe that that is correct theory and in the
Speaker 5: in the off use and phrase conflict. I don't know
Speaker 5: that that would require And this is not this is
Speaker 5: not casting any dispersions about ours, but you'll have to
Speaker 5: tread a very careful line in order to ensure that
Speaker 5: previous relationships and and there's nothing against that either, of
Speaker 5: course not but but or that person must be focused
Speaker 5: about what it is that the obligations and the duty
Speaker 5: day o to the cricket community in its broadest sense,
Speaker 5: and not a select few, as it were, And that
Speaker 5: will be tricky for for any person who tax on
Speaker 5: that role, really.
Speaker 2: Would We'll have to wait and see what the announcement
Speaker 2: is in terms of at It's only a rumor, as
Speaker 2: they say, but those rumors are fairly strong around the country.
Speaker 2: So we'll wait and see what happens when an announcement
Speaker 2: has made and what plans are put forward. I know
Speaker 2: when the last Chief executive came in he had great
Speaker 2: plans for test cricket, but we haven't seen them, so
Speaker 2: we'll just have to wait and see. Talking about plans
Speaker 2: for test cricket, we'll be talking about our squad to
Speaker 2: go to England shortly. But I just want to reflect
Speaker 2: on the trip to Bangladesh by the New Zealand side
Speaker 2: black Caps. They were beaten. I've got to say I
Speaker 2: tossed the toys again when they were three down chasing
Speaker 2: two hundred and sixty five and decided sleep was better
Speaker 2: than watching cricket. I missed Foxcroft hitting something like seven
Speaker 2: six is and doing a number down the order, but
Speaker 2: it came a little bit too late. I just I'm
Speaker 2: still sort of wondering at the rationale of going to
Speaker 2: forty two degrees and playing ODI cricket at this time
Speaker 2: of the year. And to me, while any experience should
Speaker 2: be a good experience, seems to me a pointless exercise.
Speaker 2: And they've lost the series two one.
Speaker 5: And lost I think is yes, I would say they
Speaker 5: got soundly beaten in the last matches.
Speaker 2: I was trying to be nice, yes.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeh and yeah, and diplomatic, which is not something
Speaker 5: I'd always.
Speaker 2: Around the bush.
Speaker 5: I can't help but think that the opportunities to provide
Speaker 5: or give give opportunities to a broader number of players
Speaker 5: like Fotscroft, like Clark's and a bass in those conditions,
Speaker 5: because we have to face the fact that we're going
Speaker 5: to play a lot of cricket in the subcontinent. If
Speaker 5: we have to be relevant in any way, shape or form,
Speaker 5: that's probably a reality of it. And so exposure to
Speaker 5: these conditions against what I will say, it was a
Speaker 5: pretty good sign. And can I just make it make
Speaker 5: it another another comment. The quick bowling, I've got to say,
Speaker 5: took me by surprise this and yeah, uinely, genuinely good bowlers,
Speaker 5: and so I'm giving them, giving them a hat off
Speaker 5: to them. I thought that the way they played, I
Speaker 5: thought they played damn good cricket. Okay in their backyard,
Speaker 5: but well well done, blanded dish we went. We weren't
Speaker 5: close enough with the New Zealand a team so to speak.
Speaker 2: That go right. I was bowling at one forty five,
Speaker 2: concrestently by the old slower ball. But boy, he's tall
Speaker 2: and he gets good bounce and generates pace. He's going
Speaker 2: to be an interesting one to watch.
Speaker 5: And that was in those conditions. I mean, get him
Speaker 5: on something a little bit bouncy in green over over
Speaker 5: this side, well that'll be that'll be interesting, wasn't it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've certainly found someone, haven't they. They they cleaned
Speaker 4: up Pakistan just before they met the New Zealanders.
Speaker 5: He is.
Speaker 3: You're right, he's the sort of the key.
Speaker 4: To it, claiming wickets one forty five to one fifty.
Speaker 4: He was, wasn't he quite and quite consistently and also
Speaker 4: pretty accurate. It wasn't as it was firing it down
Speaker 4: leg side and then one outside that she could have
Speaker 4: a crack out, you know, you know, over to third
Speaker 4: man and so on.
Speaker 3: Nothing like that.
Speaker 4: He held his pace, He had a good wrist, you
Speaker 4: know that he was flicking it down as well as
Speaker 4: tall and lean as you say, wads I thought he was.
Speaker 4: He was a really good look actually, and went well
Speaker 4: with Shoreful, who was very tight at the other end.
Speaker 4: The left armor, who we've seen before but is really
Speaker 4: again tidied up and become much more consistent.
Speaker 3: Mustafis was there last night.
Speaker 4: Well we know he's got the variations, particularly at the
Speaker 4: back end. He surprised Nichols, didn't he with a short
Speaker 4: one last night and hurried him. I mean, the runs
Speaker 4: were the problems for New Zealand, effectively.
Speaker 3: Weren't there.
Speaker 4: There was just no one getting collid runs at the
Speaker 4: top of the order.
Speaker 3: Young and Latham at.
Speaker 4: Three and four Young thirty two nineteen Latham fourteen, fourteen
Speaker 4: and five. You've got to have more from that, from
Speaker 4: those two positions, and that put a great deal of
Speaker 4: pressure on players like Kelly, who came out of it
Speaker 4: again quite well, even though it was a strange and
Speaker 4: odd dismissal last night, sort of lurching his way from
Speaker 4: outside leg to off went outside of stump, hitting it
Speaker 4: to sort of a straight cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I think we had a few little gains, though
Speaker 4: I don't think it was totally wasted.
Speaker 3: Yes, the heat got to.
Speaker 4: Us, no doubt about that, especially when you field first there.
Speaker 4: But I thought O'Rourke improved. He's a key man for us.
Speaker 4: He got some competitive bowling in the legs, bowling around
Speaker 4: the wicket a little bit more than he normally does.
Speaker 4: He's learning to get off the wicket, which is not
Speaker 4: his natural thing, because he wants to lean away, doesn't he,
Speaker 4: which is leaning if you're round the wicket to all
Speaker 4: the center of the pitch. I thought Smith made a
Speaker 4: few little movements as well. He's starting to.
Speaker 3: Swing the ball.
Speaker 4: I thought that his couple of not outs were handy
Speaker 4: lower down the order in the first two matches, and
Speaker 4: he's getting wickets in the powerplay I thought Lenox continued
Speaker 4: his improvement in the heat. I thought it was a
Speaker 4: weird team that they selected last night. To be honest
Speaker 4: with you, it didn't make sense when you got obviously
Speaker 4: two opening bowlers, and that's Smith and O'Rourke. That lister,
Speaker 4: who really is only a swing bowler, comes in straight
Speaker 4: after that and the ball's not swinging, So what does
Speaker 4: he do? For heaven's sake, that's his strength, that's how
Speaker 4: he gets wickets. He was forced to bowl wide for
Speaker 4: a start and then sort of across seam for the
Speaker 4: rest of his overs, and that did show some limitations
Speaker 4: that he had in that role. Then Muhammader Bass bowled
Speaker 4: a few. He did okay. He was sort of gripping
Speaker 4: the ball a little bit and bowling little left arm
Speaker 4: off spinners coming back into the left handers. But he
Speaker 4: wasn't threatening and so really they only had three bowlers O'Rourke,
Speaker 4: Smith and Lennox. They tried a bit of Foxcroft, they
Speaker 4: tried a bit of fox Trot, they tried a bit
Speaker 4: of Clarkson, they tried a bit of a bass and listen.
Speaker 4: So they didn't really have the bowlers to continue the
Speaker 4: decent start. They had and so they you know, they
Speaker 4: chased a big total and they seemed to all be
Speaker 4: getting out to me to the horizontal batshots they did
Speaker 4: in game two Bastard, Kelly did, Foxcroft did, and technical
Speaker 4: not quite so important.
Speaker 3: And in game three you know you had.
Speaker 4: Nichols did, Latham did a sweepless time lower down horizontal
Speaker 4: and are bastard as well. So that's that's been a
Speaker 4: common thread for me about that part. Make you a lot,
Speaker 4: But I think there were things there you maybe have
Speaker 4: to look a little bit harder, but the runs clearly
Speaker 4: with the difference.
Speaker 5: But then picking up on that, from what I understand
Speaker 5: is if the if the opposition's bowling is quite good,
Speaker 5: then runs are quite often hard to come by. I
Speaker 5: think that's how it works. So we have to pace,
Speaker 5: you know, due respect to Bangladesh, but we were found
Speaker 5: a little bit wanting. I think the one that the
Speaker 5: one player that I'm disappointed about it, and I guess
Speaker 5: he will be as well as is Will Young. He
Speaker 5: was our best player arguably in that Test series against
Speaker 5: India a little while back, and really since then it
Speaker 5: hasn't hasn't come on, so to speak. And you touched
Speaker 5: on a little bit earlier that his output wasn't great Jerry,
Speaker 5: and I just I'm disappointed for New Zealand Cricket because
Speaker 5: he looked so fantastic in that series, but we really
Speaker 5: haven't seen too much of that sense, which is a
Speaker 5: petty for us as as New Zealand Cricket followers. But
Speaker 5: no doubt he's he's not that thrill either. But I
Speaker 5: think by and large there were some pluses in there
Speaker 5: to see Fox Foxcroft and Clarkson and a bass and
Speaker 5: Nick Kelly and Smith Smith coming on. There was I
Speaker 5: think better for having gone and and done it. And
Speaker 5: okay they got beaten, but but you learn from it,
Speaker 5: I think if you if you're good enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, interesting that you mentioned those names, and I
Speaker 2: guess the one that is significant is young and will
Speaker 2: he be part of the squad going to England?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: We asked last week for people to come forward with
Speaker 2: their ideas of a squad of fifteen and I'll just
Speaker 2: pick one out. A guy who thinks that Jeremy is
Speaker 2: a very very good broadcaster and congratulates I'm getting into it.
Speaker 3: To pick up the fact that I actually wrote that
Speaker 3: once for him.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, Jerry's changed his name to
Speaker 2: Paul and has said in a team, and he hasn't
Speaker 2: picked a bad side. I think thirteen of them make
Speaker 2: good sense to me, and I go quickly through it. Latham, Conway,
Speaker 2: Ravendra Williamson, Mitchell Phillips, Blundell Smith, Henry Duffy, O'Rourke, Santna
Speaker 2: and Jamison. And the last two Henry Nichols and Ajz
Speaker 2: Patel now interesting calls. Paul says. Nichols domestic form edges
Speaker 2: out will Young for him, and he likes Ajs. Pattell.
Speaker 2: I mean I do too, but I just wonder whether,
Speaker 2: on top of the spin talent you've got there, whether
Speaker 2: a Jaz is going to be part of that squad
Speaker 2: and you might need another seamer like Tickner or Sears
Speaker 2: or or the like, or even Fuchs the all rounder.
Speaker 2: How do you say that, Moose?
Speaker 5: I mean I always lovel this as that, because there's
Speaker 5: no right or wrong, and we will probably should be
Speaker 5: the selectors, but no one's ever asters. More's the pity,
Speaker 5: I think. But I I look at this and Young
Speaker 5: I would like to see, but I don't think he
Speaker 5: makes it. Patel, I think you're right because we've already
Speaker 5: got satin in their bowling left left arm. The guy
Speaker 5: that I would like to see because he gives quite
Speaker 5: a lot is Michael Bracewell. Bats yeah, really good for you,
Speaker 5: has leadership qualities which I think helps in all of this.
Speaker 5: Devin Conway, I put a question mark around him. I'm
Speaker 5: just not sure. I don't think he's sorted out that technique,
Speaker 5: that rising one up on his on his on his
Speaker 5: on his hip. And because the English, all things being equal,
Speaker 5: will come with some pace archer and there, and they've
Speaker 5: got a few others knocking around there, so they're going
Speaker 5: to make it awkward for for Conway. And I'm from
Speaker 5: that wonderful start. I think he's he's come off the
Speaker 5: ball well and the other one, which I'm sorry to say,
Speaker 5: being a Wellingtonian, I would probably go with Hey rather
Speaker 5: than Blundle. He just seems to be offering more, particularly
Speaker 5: with the bat and a certainly refine keeper. So this
Speaker 5: is all, this is all good stuff, but I yeah,
Speaker 5: I would. I got more questions than I have answers
Speaker 5: to this.
Speaker 2: Yes, Well.
Speaker 4: I had a chat to Mose a couple of nights
Speaker 4: ago and we had an interesting conversation, including some of
Speaker 4: those he's just mentioned.
Speaker 3: I've had a kind of a rethink.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, this is not really a tour
Speaker 4: in the sense of developing a player.
Speaker 3: I don't think it is. It's a test tour, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It's three games, three tests, or four you could count.
Speaker 3: But let's just look at the England part particularly.
Speaker 4: It's not, not, in my opinion, a series to blood
Speaker 4: new players. Don't forget if we blood a player there,
Speaker 4: they're the ones who are going to Big heading over
Speaker 4: to face Cummins and Hazelwood and Stark and.
Speaker 3: Bowland in a few months time.
Speaker 4: Blooding players is quite a sort of a careful thing,
Speaker 4: I think, and it has to be treated that way.
Speaker 3: You generally want. They'd like to do it at.
Speaker 4: Home, as he was, you know, at Wellington, that kind
Speaker 4: of approach. But to go to Lord's and introduce a
Speaker 4: new player is a question mark in my mind. Then
Speaker 4: we get someone like say a Williamson, for example, who's
Speaker 4: indicated he's available for this tour, and New Zealand do
Speaker 4: need that solidity there. How long However, is Kine going
Speaker 4: to keep playing. He's thirty six, he's got three kids,
Speaker 4: He's pulled out a tween twenties, he's.
Speaker 3: And not quite so.
Speaker 4: You know seen around ODIs now he plays the odd tests,
Speaker 4: doesn't he and the ones that he wants to play,
Speaker 4: and he's certainly earned those that kind of position. But
Speaker 4: how long is it going to be? Would you say
Speaker 4: two years? Would be thirty eight?
Speaker 2: I'd say the Australian series.
Speaker 4: Has got to be some plan over the next year
Speaker 4: or so for someone to go into three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's Test matches against India here in New Zealand
Speaker 2: before Australia, after the England series, then there's Australia, then
Speaker 2: there's Sri Lanka coming here and then a Test series
Speaker 2: in Pakistan, Who've got thirteen Test matches in the next
Speaker 2: twelve months, which is quite a lot. And some of
Speaker 2: those A players who would obviously come into contention, the
Speaker 2: likes of Heafi Marriou and even Robinson now after his
Speaker 2: batting in Sri Lanka, they may be further down the line.
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure that you're right. I'm sure that
Speaker 2: you're right in terms of England is not a place
Speaker 2: to blood somebody and send them out to Lords on
Speaker 2: their first Test match after a warm up game in Ireland.
Speaker 3: I don't know most you and he comment about all
Speaker 3: that much.
Speaker 4: The other point I would make very quickly is we
Speaker 4: know the method of our selectors, don't we Yes, they
Speaker 4: tend to be conservative.
Speaker 5: One of Onslow's finest, and and so what more can
Speaker 5: I say?
Speaker 2: Coney's not a selector.
Speaker 5: I thought he was.
Speaker 2: He was, he was on Slow's finest. May have the
Speaker 2: Williamton Club champions Now.
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, oh oh, I take that all back there.
Speaker 2: Yes, goodness me, Jerry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to let
Speaker 2: that loosely on. I think that that's totally harsh and unfair.
Speaker 3: Well I didn't hear it once, thank heavens.
Speaker 2: Oh good we're.
Speaker 5: Learning quickly on. I think Williamson that absolutely the right.
Speaker 5: But when you're thirty six, you're coming, you're coming to
Speaker 5: that phase where the reactions aren't quite what they were,
Speaker 5: and when you're up against and in Australia where he
Speaker 5: hasn't gone that well, that's going to be going to
Speaker 5: be interesting. And I think the one that the place
Speaker 5: where we do want to prove ourselves is surely Australia,
Speaker 5: because I think we've we've we know we can play
Speaker 5: in England and we can be competitive there, but Australia
Speaker 5: is the one. But if you're thirty six thirty seven
Speaker 5: in Australia, that's going to be tough, tough for Williamson,
Speaker 5: but hey, we'll see. The one who I'd like to
Speaker 5: see more out of is Revendra and the English certainly
Speaker 5: worked them out last time they played here, short short
Speaker 5: outside off and he kept following it. So he's he's
Speaker 5: got a lot to prove. I mean, wonderful player that
Speaker 5: he is and when he gets going. But yeah, there's
Speaker 5: real talent that we do have, but it's harnessing it
Speaker 5: and I frankly would like to see some of these
Speaker 5: players come on. This Guyry he seems he seems to
Speaker 5: be a fabulous prospect. I like to see Hay in
Speaker 5: there in place of Blundell, who's just not given us,
Speaker 5: giving us enough, sad to say, compared with a few
Speaker 5: years ago.
Speaker 2: But I might just point out that he was a
Speaker 2: big scorer domestically for Wellington because it's all the cricket
Speaker 2: that he's had over the season. So he did win
Speaker 2: the Wellington Cricketer of the Year and performed all but yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of competition in the Wellington was there.
Speaker 5: They didn't go that good this year.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't bring that up.
Speaker 3: This is great.
Speaker 4: There's trading of insults. I love hearing this.
Speaker 5: That's excellent.
Speaker 2: Carry on, Moose.
Speaker 5: But I but I do. But I do think Blundell,
Speaker 5: that player we had two or three years ago, is
Speaker 5: not it doesn't seem to be there, but that they
Speaker 5: will go with them. I'm pretty sure because that's that's
Speaker 5: that has been their their remo, so to speak, and
Speaker 5: and by a large, hey, it's been pretty successful. But
Speaker 5: we we're going to be wanting a lot from Mitchell,
Speaker 5: Ravendra and and and the likes up the top of
Speaker 5: the order there. So Phillips, I just wonder about that
Speaker 5: a bit seems to get included anyway. I'm able to
Speaker 5: go with in Test cricket with a brace rather than Phillips.
Speaker 5: That's me so I yeah, I wait with some interest,
Speaker 5: Jerry will will you be over there around that time
Speaker 5: when they're playing.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm over there, sort of opening my mouth again.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but you guys easily avoid that by changing
Speaker 4: the station and doing something better.
Speaker 2: The best player.
Speaker 4: Yea, they should play the third Test at Nnville. But look, guys,
Speaker 4: I just have the feeling that the wave of England
Speaker 4: enthusiasm that swept through the last time I was there
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two when New Zealand played England won
Speaker 4: that series three nil and it felt unstoppable, you know.
Speaker 4: And now I think supporters turned against them, and we
Speaker 4: should be very wary of a wounded team. I think
Speaker 4: they've been subjected to a wealth of dislike and criticism
Speaker 4: from a lot of quarters, and they've been told that
Speaker 4: they're too relaxed and they have no specialists, of they're
Speaker 4: playing too much golf. There's incidents off the field as
Speaker 4: poor preparation. So on ad nauseum they will be very
Speaker 4: keen I think to close ranks and show what they
Speaker 4: can do, whether that criticism is founded or otherwise, so
Speaker 4: there will be changes in their side. You would expect
Speaker 4: to show that they've been listening. I think an opener
Speaker 4: is on the cards. I would guess, well, they've got
Speaker 4: a keeper who doesn't keep for the county championship, but
Speaker 4: he's getting lots of runs.
Speaker 3: Will they pick a spinner in June? I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: They'll probably play four seamers, I would have thought, and
Speaker 4: it would be Stokes and Tongue and Archer as you mentioned,
Speaker 4: Moose and either Pass or Atkinson, and they will be
Speaker 4: the main bowlers. I would think with Stokes, as I say,
Speaker 4: to back them up. New Zealand I think will go
Speaker 4: with an eight to seven split eight batsmen, in other words,
Speaker 4: seven bowlers, the batsmen being basically Lathan, Conway, Williams and
Speaker 4: Revendra Mitchell, and some of them are a bit more
Speaker 4: loose at the start, as you pointed out Moose Ravendra,
Speaker 4: but he's so dangerous he's obviously there, Mitchell determined, Blundle Phillips.
Speaker 4: Probably they will go with normally He's seven, isn't he?
Speaker 4: And Blundle six and it's just a question of that
Speaker 4: last position. But I would go with Young because I
Speaker 4: think he's going to be the one to take over
Speaker 4: at number three from Williamson.
Speaker 3: And I think to put in a new.
Speaker 4: Lad like a Hea for who's good Maria is showing
Speaker 4: and our bas and the Robin. We've all talked about
Speaker 4: those names. They're the ones that are emerging, the key ones.
Speaker 4: But I'm not sure in this particular tour, in these circumstances,
Speaker 4: that it's necessarily the best idea Bowlers. Henry Duffy Obviously,
Speaker 4: Henry nips it both ways. Duffy swinging it away over
Speaker 4: there with the Duke's ball will be handy. Oh Rourke returning,
Speaker 4: do you pick a Sears with O Rourt when they
Speaker 4: have both had just.
Speaker 3: Injury and they are slightly slightly vulnerable?
Speaker 4: Jamison the same, you know, so those are interesting. Is
Speaker 4: Tichner a possibility certainly, folks, Not quite yet because I
Speaker 4: don't think he has kind of shown he can.
Speaker 3: Handle the workload.
Speaker 4: He does swing it a different way, which I think
Speaker 4: John Bracewell pointed out quite nicely in one of the
Speaker 4: podcasts we had him onwards. And then you've got to choose,
Speaker 4: as you guys were talking about, do you go Bracewell,
Speaker 4: remembering that spinner's like any bowler is there to take
Speaker 4: wickets and I think Bracewell is more than Phillip's. And
Speaker 4: there's Patel or Santna And those are the questions we
Speaker 4: are really the ones around the key parts, aren't they?
Speaker 2: Okay, just one quick question before we have to move
Speaker 2: on because we can look at the England part of
Speaker 2: the tour next week. There's plenty of time to talk
Speaker 2: about that. Fraser who has been a regular contributor to
Speaker 2: our program, has put center forward as the captain rather
Speaker 2: than Latham.
Speaker 5: Any thoughts, I actually quite like that, I think, and
Speaker 5: I may have said have been a much earlier podcast.
Speaker 5: I thought Satler was sort of on his way out,
Speaker 5: but his progression into being a quality equality bowler with
Speaker 5: variations as opposed to just simply darts. But more to
Speaker 5: the point, it's his leadership and captaincy, most notably in
Speaker 5: the One Day Game, has been nothing but impressive. The
Speaker 5: guy never gets ruffled. I mean, as I say, he's
Speaker 5: so laid back, he's horizontal. But I rather like that,
Speaker 5: and I would I would support that frankly though I
Speaker 5: do it, but I would genuinely go that way. I
Speaker 5: think he offers a lot. He really does, and he
Speaker 5: deserves to be in sight, which is the other first
Speaker 5: important thing.
Speaker 4: Yep, I agree with what most says in terms of
Speaker 4: his abilities.
Speaker 3: He seems very relaxed, and that's a good thing to be.
Speaker 4: He also seems well gemmed up with what possibilities there are.
Speaker 4: A different man than Latham. Can he help Latham from
Speaker 4: the position of being in the side, is my first thought.
Speaker 4: Do they need to make a major change like that
Speaker 4: when he can be a close Certainly.
Speaker 3: He bats a bit that helps the New Zealand side.
Speaker 4: He captains both the white ball games, which is he's
Speaker 4: a little more unconventional I think, and comes up with
Speaker 4: perhaps different solutions and Latham might and that might be
Speaker 4: a nice combination. Whether that means that he overtakes Latham
Speaker 4: and becomes the captain, I think they won't do that.
Speaker 4: They won't do that, but it's not a bad sort
Speaker 4: to have him, and I think he wouldn't generally be
Speaker 4: in the in the picture, wouldn't he.
Speaker 5: Guys absolutely agree. Yeah, As I said, I've become quite
Speaker 5: afan oftner.
Speaker 2: I think we all have, and I mean Latham hasn't
Speaker 2: done too much wrong. We'd have to say and corrects.
Speaker 2: Got Williamson in the side, Mitchell. If there is a
Speaker 2: possibility that, say someone like Nichols or younger, they're both
Speaker 2: experienced players and you see them supporting Latham currently on
Speaker 2: this tour of Blangladesh, then there's plenty of leadership there.
Speaker 2: That's the only question I would ask does he deserve
Speaker 2: to go? But I agree with the points that you make.
Speaker 2: Center has taken good control of the team and the
Speaker 2: decision making.
Speaker 5: I look very much. So I think it's it's it's
Speaker 5: always a quality problem when you actually when you've got
Speaker 5: other contenders, So so you take that and you just
Speaker 5: hope that. And they seem to be a pretty pretty
Speaker 5: good team. I'm not close to it, I was clearly,
Speaker 5: but they don't seem to be into little ructions and
Speaker 5: the like. They seem to get on with each other.
Speaker 5: So it seems to be a pretty collaborative set up there.
Speaker 5: And and you know, no one's no one's the sole
Speaker 5: sole owner of the only good ideas. I think I
Speaker 5: think they'll be uh, they'll work well together, and I
Speaker 5: think SAT there will be will be fabous, which therefore
Speaker 5: puts pressure on Agesptel getting in the site. And that's
Speaker 5: why I would like to go towards Racewood.
Speaker 2: Well, that's something that we can have a look at.
Speaker 2: I don't know when the team is going to be named,
Speaker 2: but we might also investigate a little bit about the
Speaker 2: English opposition and what's going on in the United Kingdom
Speaker 2: in terms of county competition and possible selections, the ructions
Speaker 2: that they have had. Jerry will know a bit about
Speaker 2: that from his experience of dealing with England and watching
Speaker 2: English cricket, and we can perhaps get an English voice
Speaker 2: in next week as well, just to put some ideas
Speaker 2: forward because we're getting to that stage now where you know,
Speaker 2: the Test match series is only about five weeks away,
Speaker 2: the one on Ireland twenty seventh of May. They're starting that,
Speaker 2: so that's five weeks away. Thanks your time, guys. Good
Speaker 2: to talk to you. We've selected as I'm thank you
Speaker 2: to all those people who sent them their teams. We
Speaker 2: got pretty close to them. It will be interesting to
Speaker 2: see now what the brains trusts produce in the end.
Speaker 2: Nice to talk guys.
Speaker 5: It's all right. I think it's very exciting that we've
Speaker 5: got Test cricket of the sort coming up.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, that's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, great, because it's a change too, hasn't it, fellas
Speaker 4: we don't see much of it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's good.
Speaker 3: All right, There you go, summer.
Speaker 5: Do do.
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