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Speaker 1: In France. Catherine Field, morning to you, Good morning match.

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Speaker 1: So Macron's there, what's the vibe in the EU? What

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Speaker 1: is the future of the EU and all these countries.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to do for the Middle East?

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Speaker 1: Do we have a plan?

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Speaker 2: Well, very difficult for the EU to have a plan,

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Speaker 2: where in the fact that the last couple of months

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Speaker 2: the EU has been making it very clear about what

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Speaker 2: they think about Israeli actions in Gaza and on the

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Speaker 2: West Bank. Essentially they are sidelined so much so that

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Speaker 2: now they're just retrenching and looking at how they can

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Speaker 2: help the Palestinian authority get back some credibility, get some

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Speaker 2: sort of clamped down on the corruption, and of course

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Speaker 2: what the EU has always been doing in Palestine, Palestine

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Speaker 2: and on the West Bank that whole area has been

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Speaker 2: financial support. Over the last two years, they've put in

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Speaker 2: around a billion New Zealand dollars, so of course that's

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Speaker 2: going to be needed, particularly in Gaza. They're also training

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Speaker 2: police and they think they will have to support those

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Speaker 2: border areas such as the Raffa boarding crossings. So essentially

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Speaker 2: back to what it was on the sidelines, leaving everything

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Speaker 2: to the Americans and the israelis.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, actually, while I've just got you on

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Speaker 1: the war as wars, the tomahawk comments from Trump this morning,

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Speaker 1: you might give the Ukrainians. Is that a game changer?

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Speaker 1: Do we still think about the Ukrainian War? Were just

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Speaker 1: obsessed with the Middle East at the moment.

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Speaker 2: If you're in Europe, you're still thinking about the Ukraine War.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you that, Muke. Yeah, it would be

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Speaker 2: a game changer. And we've also heard over the weekend

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Speaker 2: that the US military have provided the Ukrainian military with

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Speaker 2: targets within Russia, particularly strategics to targets such as oil refineries,

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Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So, yeah, the game is changing.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're getting into winter. You know, it's been

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Speaker 2: a year since we were all worried about what was

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Speaker 2: going to happen. Russia has gained very little territory and

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Speaker 2: has lost a lot of its manpower. Ever, starting to

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Speaker 2: see a lot of reports from Russia, particularly about things

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Speaker 2: like petrol shortages, about people actually having to get used

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Speaker 2: to not having Wi Fi because a lot of the

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Speaker 2: Wi Fi the equipment has turned off to try and

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Speaker 2: use it for drones drone technology, So it's starting to

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Speaker 2: affect them in Russia. But as we've always said, the

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Speaker 2: war will go on until Pilton wants it to stop.

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Speaker 1: Explain how this works. So the guy who was there

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Speaker 1: for twenty seven days quits, then he gets reappointed and

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Speaker 1: then in a sign of some hope that he had

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Speaker 1: revolutionized as cabinet, but he doesn't. So you've got the

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Speaker 1: same PM, the same cabinet. How does doing the same

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Speaker 1: thing change it?

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Speaker 2: Ah, you would be talking about France's second government in

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Speaker 2: a week, Mike. Yes, lots of tantrums going on over

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Speaker 2: the last week, but yes, we do have another government

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Speaker 2: and it's going to could well be a short lived one.

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Speaker 2: He came up with the new government yesterday, a lot

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Speaker 2: of the same figures there. Senior civil servants brought in

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Speaker 2: a couple of well regarded figures from the civil society

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Speaker 2: and there It's going to come to a crunch, probably

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Speaker 2: within about twenty four hours, Mike, because we getting to

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Speaker 2: the point where the government has to put constitutionally it

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Speaker 2: has to put the budget for next year before Parliament.

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Speaker 2: They're going to do that tomorrow. The new Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: is going to give a policy speech to Parliament on

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Speaker 2: Tuesday afternoon. The far left and the far right in Parliament,

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Speaker 2: who were left out of all the negotiations about who

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Speaker 2: was going to be in the new government. They have

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Speaker 2: already tabled a motion for a no confidence vote in

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Speaker 2: this new government.

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Speaker 1: Oh game, Well, we'll see how that one goes for you.

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Speaker 1: By the way, that in and out of the EU

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Speaker 1: passport control and entry is that running like a Swiss

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Speaker 1: train or a knife.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you're anywhere near where it's working, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean this is the new entry and exit system. You're

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Speaker 2: going to really start noticing it for people who are

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Speaker 2: traveling into the external areas of Shingham, particularly from the

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Speaker 2: UK into France. Essentially, it's that enhance passport check at

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Speaker 2: the external borders. It's going to mean facial scan and

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Speaker 2: fingerprints for people coming into the wider Shingan area.

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Speaker 1: That's to talk Katherine Caffernfield in France for us this morning.

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Speaker 1: Just the other thing of night, by the way, and

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on this. The Dutch government had gone

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Speaker 1: and annexed a company called next Perier. They're Chinese dyeing

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Speaker 1: their chip maker. They're based in the Netherlands, so they're

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Speaker 1: looking to protect the supply of European semiconductors. There are

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Speaker 1: quote unquote serious governance shortcomings. December last year, the US

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Speaker 1: government placed wing Tech. Wing Tech own next Perier. They

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Speaker 1: placed wing Tech on their so called entity list. They

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Speaker 1: identified the company as national security concern so there could

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Speaker 1: be some tension between the EU and China in the

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