1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: The Brady is a UK correspondent this evening. Hey, hey, Heather, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: speak again. And it's really not that long ago that 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: King Charles saw the Pope for the last time, was it, Yeah, 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: less than two weeks So his words today even more 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: poignant because you know, we were initially told that the 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: King would not be visiting the Pope when he was 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: in Italy on that state visit a fortnight ago. And 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: then Charles reached out privately and the invitation came, and 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: the feeling amongst Vatican officials was that Francis was well 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: enough and up for it, and they met privately, and 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Charles brought him a gift and they spent some time together, 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: and obviously it was a very significant meeting because you 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: got the global head of the Roman Catholic Church meeting 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: the head of the Church of England, defender of the 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: faith as Charles now is, and they had a wonderful 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: time together. And Charles just saying that he learned the 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: news yesterday with a heavy heart. So I guess he 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: looks back on that meeting two weeks ago and probably 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: just thinks, I'm really glad I went. Yeah, hey, listen, 20 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm on this business with the stand guns for the prisons. 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: What are the chances that these get issued? I would 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: say in the short term slim, but in the long 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: term it probably will happen. This oil has come about 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: as a result of an incident involving one prisoner last week, 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: very high profile guy. His brother was the Manchester bomber 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: who killed loads of young people at that concert a 27 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: few years back. This guy is called Hashim a baby. 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: He's in prison and he had boiling oil which he 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: threw on prison officers and then proceeded to stab people 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: with a knife that he had fashioned. That of plastic 31 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: disgusting behavior and a lot of people just asking the question, 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: why isn't this guy in solitary confinement? How has he 33 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: got access to boiling oil? A lot of very very 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: angry and rightly so prison officers. So the Prison Officers' 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: Association has come out today and said it immediately once 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: stun guns issued to all officers as it's in UK 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: prisons right now, you get an extendable baton and synthetic 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: pepper spray to defend yourself against some of the most 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: violent men in Europe. Yeah, it's a fair argument that 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: you just made now on this big Ukraine meeting in 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: London tomorrow. What are we expecting. Well, the hope is 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: for something that will convince Putin and Trump to push 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: forward with a thirty day seasfire plan that can actually 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: bring the fighting to a stop. What Starmer is trying 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: to do is to make Europe look organized. So, following 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: on from the meeting in Paris last week, which we're 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: told was very constructive, Zelenski will be in town tomorrow. 48 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: We know Starmer is with your Prime Minister today and 49 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: tomorrow as well, so we will have the UK, Ukraine, France, 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: the United States. Marco Rubio is coming to town as well. 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: So this is a big, big day tomorrow for Ukraine 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: and it's badly needed. I mean I've just got off 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: a tube this morning in London and every morning I 54 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: share the same tube carried with the same young Ukrainian 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: guys heading off to work on building sites and what 56 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: have you. I mean, you look at the impact on 57 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: people's lives. A cease fire is badly, badly, badly needed. Yeah, Inda, 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: thank you so much, appreciate it made this into Brady, 59 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: our UK correspondent. For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio