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Speaker 1: So as the laws around gangs change in a bit

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Speaker 1: over a week, that's your gang patches, signs and signia

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Speaker 1: and public places, all of that sort of stuff, it

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Speaker 1: becomes illegal. The police have disruption units really to go

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Speaker 1: as part of the new nationwide scheme Operation Nickel in

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Speaker 1: Operation Nickel National Control of Paul Basham's with us. Paul,

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Speaker 1: Morning to you, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: About how big is the resource, Well, it's for the

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Speaker 2: whole police resource with a national gang units in the

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Speaker 2: king Disruption units, which is circa one hundred police officers.

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Speaker 2: But it's much bigger than that because we will bring

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Speaker 2: effect from the twenty first of November, which will be

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Speaker 2: a whole police approach to Operation Nickel.

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Speaker 1: So you've got to Bobby on the beat just doing

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Speaker 1: this thing, and then all of a sudden he sees

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Speaker 1: the gang goes right, we're into Operation Nickel. Is that

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Speaker 1: how it works?

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Speaker 2: Definitely. We've been spending the last six months, you know,

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Speaker 2: intensively preparing for the legislation dropping on the twenty first,

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Speaker 2: the whole of the stuff that had to happen in

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Speaker 2: the background to enable the effect, training and ICT and

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. But more importantly we've been

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Speaker 2: out engaging with various parties and interested groups to sort

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Speaker 2: of really project that certainty of enforcement from the twenty

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Speaker 2: first of November. So we've spent quite a bit of

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Speaker 2: time so educating and encouraging and projecting that from the

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Speaker 2: twenty first of November of people in breach of the

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Speaker 2: law as it relates to this legislation, and we're living.

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Speaker 1: Just unfold quite at the morning. Was it four hundred

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Speaker 1: or four thousand meetings?

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Speaker 2: No, not four thousand, that would be by ambitious, but

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Speaker 2: we had a list of around four hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty meetings to try and do up

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Speaker 2: and down the country, you know, and furtherance of that

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Speaker 2: educate and courage of their engagement peace. We've done pretty

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Speaker 2: much most of that, and you know, the purpose of

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Speaker 2: that was a number of things, encourage, educate, but also

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Speaker 2: to be projecting that kind of organizational posture which is

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Speaker 2: inlign with the government's priorities and the commisioners priorities, which is,

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Speaker 2: if you break the law from the twenty fifths, then

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Speaker 2: we will move to enforcement and it'll be pretty black

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Speaker 2: and white in that posture.

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Speaker 1: How proactive versus reactive are you're going to be.

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Speaker 2: Well, the whole point of establishing the game disruption units

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Speaker 2: across the twelfth districts is to still step into that

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Speaker 2: proactive posture. So you know, it's inevitable that you know,

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Speaker 2: we will be responding to reports of gangs breaking the law,

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Speaker 2: but you know, in addition to that, those units will

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Speaker 2: be proactive, getting intelligence, looking to work with other police

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Speaker 2: units and taking opportunities to sort of fill their mandate

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Speaker 2: which is in line with the purpose of the act,

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Speaker 2: which is to reduce the ability of gangs to operate

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Speaker 2: and to cause fear and indimidation and disruption by the public.

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Speaker 2: So as units really clear in terms of what the

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Speaker 2: purpose is end from the twenty first of November, they'll

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Speaker 2: be into it. And I think too, you know, you'll

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Speaker 2: see them, you know, sharpening their tradecraft and their skills

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Speaker 2: relative to the provisions of this legislation. And so we

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Speaker 2: deferred as an awesome tool to allow us to continue

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Speaker 2: to work that we do pretty much from the other

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Speaker 2: country every day anyway, in a way that we pluss.

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Speaker 1: The gigs good stuff. Well, I think most of New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's probably on your side on this one. Paul Besham,

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Speaker 1: who's the police Assistant Commissioner and Operation to Coal National

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