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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks A B.

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Speaker 2: Mike Hardley's our travel correspondent.

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Speaker 3: He is with us.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey Mike, good morning Jack.

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Speaker 3: Now, like your producer, are you off to the climate

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Speaker 3: protest after the show or are you're going home to

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Speaker 3: watch the cricket?

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Speaker 2: I will be watching the cricket this afternoon. I am

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Speaker 2: taking no position on the climate protest except to say

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Speaker 2: that people are very welcome to protest as they wish,

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Speaker 2: you know, anywhere. But I know I am you know,

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Speaker 2: I always in my in my role on Q and A,

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Speaker 2: I always just try and take a kind of politically

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Speaker 2: neutral position on all these sorts of things. And so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: people are welcome to protest, people are welcome to support

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Speaker 2: the bill as far as I'm concerned. But I've got

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Speaker 2: a I've got a job, which means that uh no,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't participate in anything like that. So yeah, enough,

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Speaker 2: are you going to be? Is there one in Christich

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Speaker 2: as well?

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Speaker 1: Today?

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Speaker 3: I suspect here as yes, But I have to have

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Speaker 3: been seduced by the cricket. The idea of US beating

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Speaker 3: af Ghinnistan.

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Speaker 2: What could be better?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a funny old T twenty a so far.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's a you know, early days

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Speaker 2: in the tournament, but you're really getting the sense that

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Speaker 2: T twenty is going to be like rugby sevens I reckon,

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Speaker 2: and that basically any team can win, you know. Like

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Speaker 2: so you see Kenya beats like a New Zealand team

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Speaker 2: in the sevens and it's not a huge you know,

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Speaker 2: it might be a bit unexpected, but it's not totally crazy.

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Speaker 2: And you look at all the high guns kind of

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Speaker 2: playing for these different teams, you know that the Cory Anderson,

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Speaker 2: you know, teeing off for Team USA and Cory Anderson

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Speaker 2: from christ Church.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell me what.

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Speaker 3: I was just watching some of the build up and

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Speaker 3: Denny Morrison is looking more and more like Sugaran Dolsen.

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Speaker 2: Oh is it?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, no, actually I can kind of see that.

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Speaker 2: I can kind of see that observation. Yeah. Right. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: that game begins in nine minutes live from the Guyana

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Speaker 2: National Stadium, so I'll make sure I keep it run

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Speaker 2: up to speed with that. The Black Cat's bowling first

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Speaker 2: against Afghanistan. Anyway, this morning, we are turning our attention

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Speaker 2: to a different side of the Atlantic and Naples. Naples

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Speaker 2: strikes many newcomers. Is pretty intense, is it Italy in

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Speaker 2: the extreme? Would you say?

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Speaker 3: I think it is? Yeah, rough and ready in your face, gritty, gripping,

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Speaker 3: even intimidating to the uninitiated. And I have to say, Jack,

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Speaker 3: on previous occasions, I have not gone beyond the train

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Speaker 3: station in Naples because I've stuck my head outside piles

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Speaker 3: of rubbish, the ensuing assembly of the bad and the

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Speaker 3: sad outside, and it's just been a huge turn off.

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Speaker 3: So I thought, last month, come on, man up, give

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Speaker 3: get a real flavor of what is a heaving city.

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Speaker 3: And I'm delighted to report I wasn't mugged, I wasn't

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Speaker 3: gunged down by the Kimora, and I wasn't run down

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Speaker 3: in a city where read lights are merely decorations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah nice. And so despite the lawless traffic, did you

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Speaker 3: It's definitely the way to explore it. Yeah. There are

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Speaker 3: some epic main streets, many which were laid out thousands

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Speaker 3: which is this ancient market undergrounds, the vast ruins of

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Speaker 3: it that's fascinating to explore. But it really is in

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Speaker 3: It just sort of tumbles out into the street like

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Speaker 3: an old Fresco pageant. You'll see teenagers flirting, schoolboys fighting,

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Speaker 3: really does feel like you are getting to snap shots

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Speaker 3: this legendary Nativity street called Via Sangregorio a Menol, and

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Speaker 3: there are hundreds of artisans in the street, jam packed

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Speaker 3: But they also do a really good line of contemporary figurines.

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Speaker 3: You can pick up a Berlasconi, a trump at Marda

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Speaker 3: Donna at Taylor Swift they're all there in matt Street,

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Speaker 3: and then in the Spanish Quarter they've just got like

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Speaker 3: this spaghetti like tangle of lanes and it's home to

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Speaker 3: of course the locals in Napoli they just adore Maradonna

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Speaker 3: football championship with Napoli, so they've got this massive mural

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Speaker 3: of him, and there are still small shrines beneath the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I understandably too. So where did you go

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Speaker 3: Well, you're spoiled for choice in the birthplace, So I

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Speaker 3: went to a place called Pizza Rea da McLay, which

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Speaker 3: has been pumping out the Neapolitan staples Margareta or Madanara

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Speaker 3: for one hundred and fifty years. And the reason there

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Speaker 3: are huge lines at this place is because this is

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Speaker 3: the pizzaia that had the starring appearance in Each per

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Speaker 3: Club with Juliet Roberts. The thing which amazed me Jack

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Speaker 3: is despite the fame of this place, the pizzas are

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Speaker 3: still bargain priced five euro for a pizza bigger than

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Speaker 3: to go. And they're quite sloppy pizza. It's quite sloppy

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Speaker 3: in the middle, but definitely worth the weight.

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Speaker 2: So when you say sloppy, do you mean that things

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: Well, like the base is kind of sloppy.

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Speaker 3: The bass has got that lovely sort of leopard spotted charring. Okay,

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Speaker 3: once you get into the yeah, but once you get

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Speaker 3: so much fresh buffalo mozzarella. Then it becomes quite sloppy

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Speaker 3: to like folded up at like a napkin, and that

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Speaker 2: Well that's the way because in New York, you know,

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Speaker 2: they get a slice and then they fold it lengthways,

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Speaker 2: you kind of fold over itself like a sandwich almost

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Speaker 3: So yeah, exactly, yeah, very similar. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, So what is the best pastry in Naples?

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Speaker 3: Ah? I stuffed myself stupid on Follier Tella, which is

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Speaker 3: this shell shaped Italian puff pastry similar to a croissant,

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Speaker 3: but it's injected with sweet ricotta with a hint of vanilla,

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Speaker 3: cinnamon and Sorrento lemon Ah. This Folia tailor is best

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Speaker 3: a very crispy shell, very fluffy interior. They are synonymous

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Speaker 3: with Naples binge away.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that sounds so good. Are there good landmarks,

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Speaker 2: good museums and Naples that are worth checking out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a couple of tips to get your pastry

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Speaker 3: fix on those Sofalia tellers, go to Grand Cafe Gambrinos.

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Speaker 3: It's this landmark coffeehouse from the eighteen sixties. And right

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Speaker 3: across the road from the cafe is Galleria Umberto Aulno,

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Speaker 3: which is a replica, an absolute replica of the famed

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Speaker 3: Glass Domes galleria in Milan, and they were both built

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Speaker 3: in the nineteenth century. The Naples version was built pretty

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Speaker 3: much is a unification present to the city, so that

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Speaker 3: that's must see, as is the Archaeological Museum Jack. They

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Speaker 3: have got the most priceless artifacts rescued from Pompavia and

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Speaker 3: best of all, the Secret Room, which touts an X

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Speaker 3: hundreds and hundreds of works. They were such a raunchy

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Speaker 3: was feeling quite offended as I was looking at these pieces,

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Speaker 3: the statues and the frescoes. They leave nothing to the

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Speaker 3: imagination two thousand years ago.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fair enough, right? Are you a little bit

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Speaker 2: of blushing there? Maybe what would be the quirkiest attractor

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Speaker 3: Well within the Gothic grandeur of their dormo, the cathedral,

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Speaker 3: the relics of Naples patron Saint Genoarius. Now three times

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Speaker 3: a year Jack the faithful of Naples gather around the

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Speaker 3: cathedral to witness what they called the miracle of the Blood.

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Speaker 3: This is a weird old thing, but apparently he's got

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Speaker 3: like dried blood from Genarius has kept in the glass vial, right,

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Speaker 3: and three times a year it's brought out for public display. Supposedly,

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Speaker 3: this striede blood.

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Speaker 4: Liquefies in front of them, and Pope Francis went to

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Speaker 4: the cathedral three years ago kissed the vial in Supposedly

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Speaker 4: it's spontaneously liquefied for the Pope.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you may want to add genoarious to your checklist.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, very good. Okay, thank you so much, Mike.

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Speaker 2: It does sound amazing. Did it win you over.

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Speaker 3: Then after all of that, what was that? Sorry?

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Speaker 2: Did it win you over given your hesitance, you know,

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Speaker 2: giving you Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in places it is a bit of a hot mess,

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Speaker 3: but overall it's well worth checking out, very rewarding. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: very good.

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Speaker 2: I always reckon if the place you're visiting is a

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Speaker 2: if you're traveling through you know, like India or Pakistan

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Speaker 2: have is to shell out for a really good accommodation

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Speaker 2: so that at the end of the day you can

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Speaker 2: try and just have a bit of tranquility, you know,

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Speaker 2: like if it's an experience outside, make sure the inside

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Speaker 2: experience is as peaceful as possible. And that's mine.

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Speaker 3: Very wise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, thank you so much. We'll put all of

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Speaker 2: Mike's tips for getting to grips with Naples up on

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